/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Reposting for the new thread, sorry if it's off topic a bit.

Can you guys help me think of funny tea + Lolita puns for the title of a potential zine? So far I have 'Tea-litas' and that sounds kinda tacky.

>>9676400
You can't come up with a name for your own zine?

>>9676400
Beau-tea and the Bows
Biscuits and Bows
Steeping Beauties

>>9676398
There goes my money

>>9676409
I'm not great too great with words and titles that might catch an audience. I had one idea so far, but I thought it was tachy so I wanted to see what other ideas that could be thought of.

>>9676412
These all sound great thanks! I'm partial to 'Steeping Beauties' so far!

>>9676419
Sorry, I meant *too great and *tacky. Mobile problems.

>>9676419
That one was my favorite!

>>9676412
>>9676419
Not Steeping Beauteas? Or is that too much?

>>9676447
definitely too much.

Why are there so many AP cunts on cgl?

>>9676419
>I'm not great too great with words and titles
That's an important skill if you want a zine

>>9676462
Because AP is the most popular lolita brand?

>>9676481
>why is AP popular here
>because it's popular
Wow thanks

>>9676462
I wonder this as well. Wish there was more talk of Baby if /cgl/ is full of sweet fags.

>>9676462
Because it covers most genres from sickly sugary sweet to OTT to the hyped prints like Holy Lantern/Crystal Dream Carnival etc. Most lolitas can find a print they like from them. Plus a lot of fattychans can squeeze themselves into the dresses as well (Cotton candy shop). You don’t see people fawning over the smaller sized brands because prefer to cater to their chosen demographic. Another reason could be it’s much more accessible second hand and cheap pieces aren’t hard to come by so many lolitas had AP as their first burando and gateway dresses. Idk anon use your brain, not that hard to think about.

>>9676462
ap fits fatties and seagulls are whales

>>9676419
Why the fuck are you starting a zine if you have no imagination and can't write by your own admission

>>9676462
>>9676491
Be the change you want to see, anons.
I would post pics of the new baby releases but my phone is too much of a potato to save them in decent quality

>>9676491
Where are all these supposed sweet fags? I feel like I mostly see anons into classic.

>>9676503
AATP were talked about last thread.

>>9676513
Still, if that's not enough for these anons I don't see any excuse not to contribute?

>>9676520
Sorry I can't help man. I own mostly AP and I really like Royal Princess Alice so I feel like cgl automatically dismisses me.

>>9676498
This is more true than anyone cares to admit. I’d love to blather more about VM and MM but every time those brands are brought up it gets buried with a landslide of how unfriendly the sizing is to westerners. Plus no print = low interest, no matter how much we may want to believe otherwise.

Shit, btssb/aatp is massive in comparison but even those are too small for enough people that it gets skipped over.

>>9676512
>>9676491

I don't think most gulls are sweet, I get the impression a lot of gulls do multiple styles, they just put down "classic" in the secret santa because it's easier to find nicer accessories for classic while you end up with kiddy stickers for sweet.

And AP does make it easy to cross styles, their business strategy almost entirely centres around catching bandwagons and riding them hard, so it's very easy to wear AP and ride along into other fashions while only following one brand (see salopettes for fairy kei, hime gyaru for gyaru, Fancy Hospital for menhera, Dolly Dot's upside down hair bow and that netting OTKs for larme.)

>>9676539
Please talk about VM and MM even if it gets buried. There are other fans out here!

>>9676539
This is so true. As someone who wears VM and MM regularly, I always get the occasional lolita give me the stink eye at meets when I tell them I'm wearing said brand and say things like "I wish I could fit into VM" or "I wish MM would offer a bigger size selection"

I'm sorry you don't fit? Way to make people feel bad for wearing what they like

>>9676512
I thought so too.

>>9676481
It's not the most popular brand in my comm, most girls in my comm wear classic.

I know everyone who has had this dress has had issues with the print, but has anyone tried washing it? I've worn mine a couple times and it's ready to be cleaned, but I'm afraid of totally trashing it. Anyone tried it and had luck yet?

>>9676539
>>9676564
This drives me fucking nuts and it's even worse in my local comm. Like nobody can even mention the existence of VM or MM or even Moitie without a fat or big-breasted girl going "UM I DON'T FIT THAT BRAND" when nobody fucking asked, immediately shutting down the conversation and instead making it about how unreasonable those brands are for not fitting her. A few meets ago we were talking about hats and someone asked where mine was from, I said VM and this fatty who wasn't even part of the conversation suddenly butts in and starts talking over the other girl about how VM doesn't fit her. ...Okay? That sucks? But we were talking about hats, not about how fat you are. If you can't add anything to a given conversation then keep quiet, don't try and make it about yourself.

Any photos of dreadlocks in Lolita?

>>9676477
>>9676499
I feel that I'm better with drawings than words. I did think that my original title was tacky and I need help with it as I did say, but I also think its important to bounce ideas off of other people to help the creative process along. I don't know anyone in real life who is interested enough in lolita fashion with whom I can ask for input. This zine is more like a tea-themed art collection than a collection of poems and essays so I thought I could at least ask for help for a good title.

I understand that thinking of a good title for the zine myself is an important skill but I really wanted my first attempt at a zine to go well. Sorry if my intent isn't too clear.

>>9676398
Another taobao tier print.
AP really is getting terrible.

>>9676577
I sure hope not

Has it ever worked to inform Japanese brands and magazines of what the Leighs have done? I hate John so much, I want to complain about him to kerastyle but I don't speak any Japanese.

>>9676623
I don't see why not when you can decorate them with wraps & beads, crystals & peals, even things like shells & feathers, depending on your style it can look cute.Anyway, I found some decent historic ones on egl & daily_lolita.

>>9676626
Kerastyle posts all their articles to their Facebook, someone should comment with this article http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/the-con-anime-matsuri-is-growing-and-so-is-the-list-of-people-unhappy-with-it-7764398
It's a pretty decent summary of his scams and bullshit.

>>9676590
I don't know if you noticed but people here aren't exactly creative.

>>9676541
>they just put down "classic" in the secret santa
I never go to those threads but I see it getting posted a lot in other threads like CoF and a lot of self post type threads - in fact I rarely find girls to follow in the Insta threads cause its mostly classic.

>>9676634
People here seem to care about lolita, so I thought it might be a good place to ask.

>>9676555
Y E S, VM was the first brand I fell in love with and I'm so down for this to happen.

>>9676462
Sweet is the most popular in my comm and I like it over classic. I do like gothic as well, but it's rare to see new releases.

>>9676640
People here seem to be pretty jaded about the fashion they supposedly love.

>>9676398

I will be buried in this dress, I need it in my life.

>>9676638

Should have clarified, I mean I don't think most gulls are only strictly sweet lolitas.

>>9676539
I told myself I'd get Classical Doll the next time VM rereleased it, but I'm honestly not sure how I feel about them doing it in stripes.

>>9676568
The majority of people in my comm claim to love and wear classic but nearly all of them are actually wearing sweet. They seem to think AP releases like Mercator Antique Shop and Chocolate Rosette are classic because they come in navy and brown...

>>9676693
There's a lot of that in my comm too. Ugh.

>>9676693
My comm is not that stupid

>>9676698
One girl made a big fuss about moving from "childish" sweet to "mature" classic when she turned 21 or whatever, but all she did was sell off her pink AP pieces and start buying brown chocolate AP pieces. Girl you're still sweet, you're literally covered in candy prints and all your dresses are too short on you.

>>9676701
Good. Is there room for me?

>>9676693
I think it matters how they coord the dresses.

>>9676706
>21
>time to be mature
Pic fucking related.

>>9676577
That bad steampunk lolita girl from Europe

>>9676681
I had a very similar OP from Innocent World and the stripes made it easy to coordinate different ways. Solids are always hard for me to be creative with

>>9676681
I actually have a soft spot for stripes so I think this version is cute!

LWLN's reaction to KE's $1500 purchase at AP Laforet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chs0xBxPQUA

>>9676746
my there were a lot of gems in this one. Will Tyler be covering the upcoming Youmacon Lolita 101 fiesta?

>>9676746
This Tina fey wannabe is still around?

>>9676746
I can't believe that after that much whining she actually got them to take the dress back.

>>9676590
Sorry people were so sour to you, Anon. I've seen plenty of zines with no written component whatsoever that are strictly art-focused so idk why some people flipped out on you for not being as confident in your writing.

Like you said...no artist lives in a vaccuum. Critique and feedback is how we all improve and refine our ideas.

I think what you are trying to create is admirable and would love to check it out when you're done!

Some of the stupidity in the comments for this in lolita updates are giving me a headache

>>9676759
>Youmacon Lolita 101 fiesta
please explain, I live for drama

>>9676796
Was this on lolita updates? Why

>>9676800
It's apparently from some taobao lolita "brand". Some people are comparing it to baby's wedding dresses as an argument to why this should be considered lolita

>>9676796
>>9676800
No, that's Chinese Lolita Updates.

>>9676800
It was on lolita updates. I think it was made by a chinese lolita brand? I just scrolled past it without really reading though so I may be wrong

>>9676800
Those are the exact kind of posts there.

>>9676810
What a disaster. The Chinese are just using it for their own gain.

>>9676655
>no new releases for gothic
friend, you're just not looking.

>>9676797
Check out the archive for the previous youmacon thread. It pretty much explains it all.

>>9676564
MM is the first brand I fell in love with and the reason I got into lolita! I still don't own any of their pieces, but I'd love to someday.

>>9676819
I said it's rare. And usually it's just a couple pieces rather than a collection. I definitely follow them, but it's not quite the same as a new collection every week by AP. Nor does it have the same amount of interest, positive or negative.

>>9676576
I wish people would fucking suck it up. I'm tall, very busty, wide shouldered, AND chubby. Many of my DDs won't fit/flatter me, and I sigh when I see them, but looking at my functional wardrobe of fitting pieces and it's almost no deal at all.
There's plenty out here for larger girls but it takes time and genuine dedication. if you're lazy and only want meme items don't complain to anyone. ever. I really doubt some of the complainers would even buy and wear pieces by these brands. they just want to enjoy a feeling of having all options available, even though they'll never be in the market. I'm definitely not a part of that entitled culture so it ruffles me to hear dumb stuff like you described in your comm.

>>9676746
loved the video but i had second hand cringey effect from KE.How can you be so stupid? Even if you know the conversion always look up the conversion rate and see the real rate. If a manger comes out thats a sign it is not a normal purchase...

>>9676541
I think if there was any truth to "they just crossover into a lot of styles", Baby/AatP would be their brand. Baby actually does plenty of sweet, classic, and gothic. AP does the most sugary sweet of any brand by far and then does sweet classic when they want to grab their audience that's moving away from them. /cgl/ is simply full of sweet and AP lovers since lolita generals literally always have talk about it.

>>9676539
Is this true? I'm more gothic, but I'd love to start grabbing black VM and MM designs and hear about their updates more on /cgl/. If it's the bane of Western lolitas for being small, makes me want to wear it so fatties can get angry. They're both fantastic brands and it's depressing to me that /cgl/ claims to be so classic, but there's literally silence about both of these. I'd even be happy hearing about more IW, but those fans seem to be really quiet too.

>>9676849
I agree with the sentiment but AP does produce some fairly mature classic. Victorian Tassel, Classic Party, Classic Garden, certain regimental items (less chocolate rosettes, more uniform style).

I consider my wardrobe to fit into sweet but I don't wear pastel pink, purple, or mint.

>>9676878
Classic Garden is the only thing you listed that could reasonably be interpreted as anything other than sweet. If you think Kawaii Roland is considered classic you're sorely mistaken. AP will on occasion do more mature things and incorporate elements of classic lolita into their designs but they rarely, if ever, do anything that isn't sweet.

>>9676901
What about Classic fairytale, british crown, victorian letter, and lucky key?

>>9676911
Those are all sweet. Jewel tones don’t make something classic. Are you in >>9676693’s comm?

>>9676912
No, I've never been too interested in classic. I assumed they were still sweet though. I thought the distinction between classic and sweet was more about shape than color

>>9676911
The prints you list are all unfortunately very sweet, anon. Classic Fairytale is even sweeter than most BtSSB fairytale prints. What AP does is kind of hybrid their style with something else (Fairy Kei, Larme, Classic) but it's always distinctly sweet and AP.
>>9676878
This is still really sugary. It's in the detailing.

>>9676878
>>9676911
I agree with you. I wouldn't consider those pieces sweet either. I'd say they're not *as* classic as some people would want, but I don't consider them sweet at all.

>>9676930
You might actually be retarded then.

>>9676930
I thought they were that merge IW does where it's sweet meets classic. They don't fit the colors of sweet, but they don't fit the shape of classic.

>>9676932
Or maybe I just have differing opinions? It's not like there's a "right" and "wrong" answer here, anyway. It's not like someone caling an OP a JSK, where you can easily point to the brand website and say "look, they call it an OP."

>>9676930
Let me guess, you think Holy Lantern is gothic too right?

>>9676932
Cool it, sperg

>>9676930
Can you define what you think sweet is? It's really helpful with discussions like this. What are all the details that makes those not sweet to you?

>>9676934
But it is something you can be wrong about, and you are wrong about it. Confusing styles like this is the hallmark of a newer lolita who doesn't quiet get the things that go in to making a piece sweet/classic/gothic. Just because a print has jewel tones doesn't make it classic, just because a piece is pastel doesn't make it sweet.

>>9676940
It's AP's purple tag vs pink. Purple for more "grown up" and pink for more focus on it being cute.

>>9676944
Are you actually trying to say APs purple tag pieces are classic???

>>9676941
No, its not. The fashion changed a lot from 5 years ago, and its different now. Take AATP for example

>>9676941
>newer lolita

I've been in lolita for almost a decade but okay. I just don't care about sweet. How about we stop assuming everyone who thinks differently is new?

>>9676948
No, they're AP's more "grown up" version. Try reading before sperging

>>9676950
It is, and it's very telling that you're trying to say it isn't. I'm not sure why you're pointing to AaTP as an example. Brands aren't limited to one style so this is an odd argument to use.

>>9676953
So “grown up” = not sweet?

>>9676953
Anon was asking what makes those pieces classic and got a response with APs purple vs pink tags. How about you try reading, stupid cunt?

>>9676954
My point exactly. Brands cater to different styles. Even innocent world has both sweet and classic. But the style from years ago changed, and classic isn't the same the same way OTT sweet died out

>>9676944
Purple tag I believe is just AP's way of saying it's not sugary as hell. A lot of sweet prints are under it.

>>9676955
Stop trying to rile up drama over a pointless argument. Most of the major lolita brands cater to varying styles in their own flavor. AP does classic its own way, as IW does sweet their own way.

>>9676958
But the pieces that were being discussed from AP ARENT classic.

>>9676962
I never said they were. Classic is classic because of its cut and shape. Where it meets sweet is what AP does. Its not quite classic, but not quite sweet. IW does it too

>>9676964
Alright I'm not sure if you're drunk or what but anon was saying those pieces are classic, I'm not sure why you're inserting unrelated brands as examples to attempt counter my argument of newer lolitas having issues with identifying what makes a certain piece a certain style.

>>9676961
Not trying to make a fight, but AP is a sweet brand and their prints are really more like sweet takes on classic and even gothic.

>>9676965
That anon asking about various AP prints was me. I know theyre not classic. No need to sperg out. Classic is based on shape and trim. It's extremely clear when you compare IW prints. Sweet to classic prints are shorter and cupcake shaped, while classic is A line

>>9676971
>classic is based on shape and trim

That's part of it, but not all of it at all. Don't worry, I'm sure one day when you've been in the fashion a bit longer you'll be able to pick up on the nuances of a print that also influence how an item is classic. But until then you really shouldn't give out incorrect information.

>>9676971
Plenty of sweet is A-line too. You really don't know what you're talking about holy shit.

>>9676974
Ok sure, whatever makes you feel better at night. Hopefully you can fit into classic

>>9676975
It's not. You don't wear the same petti, and you definitely cant wear underskirts with sweet without it looking stupid

>>9676977
>Hopefully you can fit into classic

Lel the salt is real. I like how you've been proven wrong and you have to result to unrelated insults that probably aren't even accurate.

>>9676981
Okay, I have to ask since you have so much information wrong at this point.

Are you even a lolita? Because there is a ton of sweet Aline, and people often wear underskirts with sweet and it looks just fine.

>>9676985
If you're wearing A line pettis and underskirts with sweet then youre fucking it up. Sweet it too short and flares up, which reveals the line between hem and underskirt.
That's why underskirts were bashed so much, because people weren't wearing them correctly,

>>9676987
There are sweet dresses that have cuts that don't flatter cupcake shaped petticoats and that are made for A-line. How is this new information to you??? Keep going because you're just proving me right that you are very new.

>>9676971
>sweet is cupcake
>classic is aline
This is a classic dress now?

>>9676991
Like what, just because AP sometimes makes slightly longer dresses doesn't mean you wear an A line petti, youre supposed to wear a longer cupcake petti. A line is for gothic and classic.

>>9676992
dropped my image

>>9676996
This is so incorrect I want to cry. You're probably a huge ita or not actually a lolita if you think that sweet aline doesn't exist.

>>9676991
No! All sweet lolita dresses use cupcake petticoats! A-line is for classic lolitas!

>>9676960
no, it's literally for the customers that got old, they said so themselves

>>9676997
Clearly this is classic anon. Can't you tell by the cut?? : ^ )c

>>9676997
You don't wear an A line petti with that, because anything high waisted like that will get that shape with a petti. It's like AP's sack dresses.

>>9676999
If there's an A-line silhouette it's automatically classic!

>>9677002
A cupcake petticoat under that will look beyond retarded anon...

>>9677000
Ya, so for more "mature" rather than overly cute.

>>9677002
You don't own any lolita, do you?

>>9677004
Except its not an A line petti under it

>>9677008
It's not a cupcake petti, the bottom would look over stuffed and the top would look off because the cut of the dress isn't structured for a cupcake shape

>>9677002
Are you saying this is a sweet dress, too then?

>>9677008
Since you don't seem to understand what cupcake and Aline are

(___) cupcake
/___\ a line

>>9677002
Explain to us why sweet brands also make A-line petticoats and classic brands also make cupcake petticoats

>>9677000
>>9677006
It doesn’t change the fact a lot of sweet still fits under there.

>>9677013
Because they both have versions of sweet and versions of classic in their brand. IW has a different petti for its sweet prints, and AP has one tiered petti for its version of classic, but you hardly see it. AP's pettis are basic sweet pettis

>>9677017
Honestly I'm impressed with the amount of mental gymnastics and delusional thinking you have to have going on for you to reach this as your conclusion.

>>9677021
Likewise

>>9677017
It's okay anon, gulls are very anal about putting things in the right box and pay 0 attention to what Japanese brand designers and lolitas think

>>9677024
Are you really trying to tell me AP aims to be classic? Nigga you wot

>>9677021
They’re honestly probably just new, anon. Alternatively: A lot of sweet Lolita’s that stay sweet and stick to AP for years seem to be like this. They lack real experience in actual classic or gothic.

>>9677024
I don't feel bad. A large part of cgl doesn't wear lolita but pretends they do. That's where the nonexistent rules come from. Wearing lolita and meeting other lolitas is completely different than sitting and typing on an imageboard all day.

>>9677027
I don't care about AP and I don't care about this discussion, but I can relate to what that anon is saying because I've watched a lot of subbed videos, talked with Japanese lolitas and read interviews. It's all available online if you ever want to learn about the designing process of brand like IW and Baby.

>>9677027
If you've ever been to a brand tea party, they show presentations about how the design and manufacture the clothes. Baby does it all the time

>>9677031
If you don't care about AP or this discussion why are you interjecting? Because really the conversation is mostly consisting about the discussion of AP and petticoat shapes.

>>9677034
O k. But are you saying AP is trying to be classic? Because I need to know if you're actually retarded or what the deal is.

>>9677038
>>9677027
Nobody has said that anywhere in this thread

>>9677040
Anon says AP has a tiered petticoat for their "Classic" pieces when AP doesn't have classic pieces.

>>9677031
>>9677034
What are you trying to infer by this? That AP has said they do classic? Because I need receipts.

>>9677040
Their version of classic. Slow down speed reader. Just like AP's version of classic differs from IW, IW's version of sweet differs from AP's.

>>9677045
That's what I'm saying, with some releases they designed it for classic lolita but that doesn't mean AP in general is trying to be a classic brand

>>9677045
AP doesn't have a "version" of classic. I can see you making this argument for Baby but AP? AP is the pinnacle of sweet, and they always have been.

Are you the type of person who thinks old school sweet is classic too? Because that's how retarded you sound.

>>9677048
Please give an example of what you think a piece AP trying to make classic looks like.

>>9676858
>so fatties can get angry
that's been a tradition before you started browsing this board. petite classic, maybe gothic too, lolitas used to always post
>MM master race
>VM master race

>>9677049
Except Baby comes out with prints and cuts sweeter than AP

>>9677052
AP is consistently sweeter than baby. Fucking sugary carnival is all I should have to say. Obviously Baby will have pieces that are more OTT on occasion, but over all AP is more distinctly sweet since they don't stray into actual classic pieces like baby does.

>>9677045
>>9677048
Their “version of classic” is sweet classic. I mean, someone make some comparisons of normal classic compared to AP sweet classic so these anons can learn.

If anyone wants it as a background or something, I nabbed the Fairy Rose Princess repeat BG off AP's website.

>>9677051
Except you have to be chub to fit them. Just not American chub, that's just fat.

>>9677053
Sugary Carnival came out in 2009, during the popular OTT sweet period

>>9677060
Okay, so since you're being this retarded

>milky pony carnival
>suyasuya toys

>>9677062
OTT revival. Don't you remember cgl raving about how OTT was best?

>>9676398
>>9677048
So what's your take on OP, anon? Classic or sweet?

>>9677054

>>9677065
nayrt but I think the OP is classic, jsk is too sweet a cut to be called classic

>>9677064
You bitched that an old print was too old to be an example and now you're bitching that a new print is too trendy?

Fuck off.

>>9677066

>>9677064
>thinking AP knows or gives a fuck about cgl

>>9677068
AP's been recycling prints from its glory years, if you haven't noticed.

>>9677066
>>9677069

I think these are two very good examples to prove the stark difference between AP and actual classic.

>>9677073
That has nothing to do with proving me wrong, the prints I used are still good examples of proving AP is sweeter in general than baby is.

>>9677075
Baby uses florals, AP uses sweets. They're both sweet. Using flowers over cake doesnt make it less sweet.

>>9677077
The amount of cartoonish styling and cutesy cut details used in prints is much higher with AP, therefore it is sweeter. AP and baby both use florals and sweets, so I'm not sure why you're using that as a point?

>>9677082

>>9677056
Thanks! It's really fucking nice to see someone still contributing to the thread during all the shit flinging.

>>9677088
This is a good example of very sweet baby but they don't consistently put out prints this cartoonish, while AP does.

>>9677056
Disappointing, it looks so boring. There's been so few bloodbaths and lots of leftover inventory

>>9677091
Yes they do lol

>>9677091
Are you still stuck in 2012? The fashion's changed a lot since then

>>9677091
How new are you? Baby has put out a bunch of cartoony prints this year alone.

>>9677093
Please show me all the very cartoony prints baby comes out with that are on par with things like suyasuya toys and Halloween treats level of cartoony.

>>9677095
>>9677094
>that samefag time stamp

Lol. At least try and be subtle about it anon.

>>9677096
Why?

>>9677091
Do you actively follow Baby? Unlike AP, many of Baby’s releases don’t get hyped or even really shared on cgl so I guess it’s easy to overlook most of their releases if you don’t follow them.

>>9677097
What do you mean by this? Are you suggesting one person had this thread open in multiple browsers and posted similar replies to the same comment within a second of each other for some weird ass reason? I feel like I’m missing something here.

>>9677099
I do, so I'm fairly confident when I say that they aren't the same level of cartoony.

>>9677098
So you have a solid backing to your argument maybe?

>>9677102
There's someone on cgl who comes in and shouts "samefag" at any given chance.

>>9677097
Being so paranoid
>>9677095
Here anon, is Baby's latest

>>9677092
It's such a double-edged sword. On one hand, I hate the concept of needing to elbow my way to a release that's super popular, but on the other hand, I want sales to be relatively healthy for all the brands so we don't lose the variety.

Wish I had better insight into how it affects the secondhand market as well.

>>9677106
From how many re-releases of prints IW and AP have done, its safe to infer that they do get affected by it. I think less so now, as the sellers market for secondhand is pretty weak compared to Sugary Carnival being $1000.

>>9677092
>>9677106
Remember that AP in specific makes a lot of their stuff in China now and has more factories. They simply have more inventory these days.

>>9677108
Check Instagram a week after releases. You'll see a bunch of chinese lolitas wearing them if theyre popular.

>>9677104
>there's someone on cgl
>someone
>implying only one person uses the term samefag
>calling someone a samefag when you're calling somebody out for calling someone a samefag

jesus christ

>>9677110
They don't call us salty seagulls for nothing.

>>9677110
>that was me when I pointed them out in a later post in the context that it was annoying
>not knowing that there's one anon in particular who tries to act like le ebin oldfeg by calling everyone samefags that has a distinct writing style and insults

Mental gymnastics from newfags at its finest.

>>9677115
Can you just go cry into a bucket of fried chicken and move on?

>>9677115
>i know exactly who is posting based on their ambiguous typing style on an anonymous image board

mental gymnastics from newfags at its finest, overcompensate more

>>9677117
>bucket of fried chicken

This is the most odd and asspulled insult I've seen today.

>>9677118
>so unoriginal you have to copy and paste what I said

I guess imitation is the most sincere form of flattery though, so I can't be too mad about it.

>>9677120
And you still managed to get butthurt over it

>>9677121
>butthurt

Where am I butthurt? Replying to a post replying to you =/= butthurt. I guess if I typed out some long rant defending myself I could see it being butthurt but thats not what happened

>>9677109
Kind of on that topic, do Japanese lolitas seem to just not exist to anyone else? I'm not talking about people like Misako, shop girls or anyone with connection to brand. I just never hear about "what the Japanese lolitas found popular" nor do I even know what they like anymore. It always used to be a struggle with what the Japanese lolitas wanted, then the Western lolitas.

>>9677110
cgl is actually just one person with a lot of time on their hands

>>9677124
kek

>>9677108
It seems like all their main pieces, but almost all blouses are made in Japan which is pretty nice.

How do I get a lolita gf?

im not a fetish fag, i like your style and look like cutie patooties.

>>9677123
Nope, theyre still on Instagram. There's just a lot of lolitas in China and Europe.

>>9677123
They are mostly on twitter

>>9677125
>still using kek
Most embarrassing behavior
>>9677127
Go away

>>9677130
>Go away

we can be soul mates

>>9677130
>being so autistic you actually care about the variation of lol someone uses

>>9677131
b my BF

I don't watch a lot of anime tho

>>9677136
Twas a joke you twat

>>9677138
>taking any sort of shitposting seriously

I cri

>>9677138
Fuck, its turned into ana chan vs bulimia chan from last major thread derailment.

>>9677137
I don't think he will respond anon, his brain probably exploded as he read that.

>>9677140
Threads are derailed here all the time, are you new?

>>9677140
No, just it came as a memory

>>9677115
>There's one anon in particular who tries to act like le ebin oldfeg by calling everyone samefags that has a distinct writing style and insults
>calling people newfags when you actually think you can tell who is who
Jesus christ, you're retarded aren't you?

>>9677154
NAYRT but there is someone who does that and has admitted to doing it here

>>9677122
If you weren't butthurt, you wouldn't reply. But you are so you have to try and get the last word in. Cue your long rant defending yourself.

>>9677155
No there hasn't. I've been in threads where (likely) this or these same anon(s) keep trying to claim it's one person posting like that. It's not. I know that I've joined in typing like that when they were obviously triggered just to piss them off, and right away they tried to claim that every single post was by the same anon.

>>9677158
>no there hasn't

I wasn't aware you've been in every thread on /cgl/ and read every post ever. My bad for questioning your omnipresence of this board

>>9677160
>this tired old meme
Okay then, where's the caps of someone admitting they're the same person posting over and over in every thread? You're making the claim, so obviously you should have proof right?

>>9677170
Search the archives if you're so invested in this conversation you want proof. I'm not so obsessed with this board as you that I take screenshots for proof to back up every single thing I may or may not have to say.

>>9677174
Kek, so you have no proof and are just talking out of your ass. The validity of the claim lies with the one making the claim, anon.

>>9676746
Ngl the schadenfreude radiating from this video is delicious. This might be my favorite LWLN video.

>>9676746
This made my evening tea all the more enjoyable.

>>9676762
I love her Tina Fey impression, at least she's not doing a kawaii uwuwu voice like half of the lolita youtubers.

>>9677176
I'm sorry you put so much emphasis and importance in a post on 4chan. life must be rough for you
Proof exists, I just don't care enough to waste my time to prove something to an anonymous stranger

>>9676746
Man Kelly Eden is cringey but this video is just as cringe

>>9677186
>someone admitted XXX!!!
>no they didn't
>uh wow you don't know that, you didn't read EVERY SINGLE POST EVER
>ok then show me
>u-uh go find it yourself why do you caaaare so much
Heh, don't make up stuff and get butthurt when you get called out next time, sweetie.

>>9677191
Anon, proof exists, if you care so much go find it. If you don't, don't. It's that simple.

>>9677193
>go look for some made up proof that no one knows anything about!
okay anon, sure

>>9677191
>pshhh... nothing... personnel kid.....

>>9677193
I heard anon bought 50 dicks off ebay and sucked them all. Proof's in the archives, so whatever I say is 100% true. .

>>9677197
Don't get too upset now anon, it's embarrassing.

>>9677196
Are you really saying I should spend a good chunk of time to prove something on 4chan that won't actually matter in the real world?

>>9677197
lel

>>9677202
>thinking that's me

Wew.

>>9677191
You can literally keyword search on the archive. It's not a misdirection, it's very easy to do and it's not someone else's job to look up verification for something only you are doubting.

>>9677187
It's supposed to be taken with a grain of salt anon.


Btw isn't Kelly Eden a kawaii ambassador? it makes the whole thing even more fucking awful. She's giving us foreigners a bad name. She only got the title because she's popular but she looks like a trashy alt bimbo. Not cute at all.

>>9677207
>>9677204
Keyword search what? This is literally so vague, you can't even keyword search something unless you've seen the post before.
And yes, if you're making a claim, it is your job to prove it, not just assume people should take you as your word.
The fact that you can't even vaguely say which thread it's in or any keywords to look up shows really how bs your claim is.

>>9677222
You're new as fuck if you can't figure out this much even after people told you what to do

>>9677224
>n-newfag!!!
Nice once, you really proved your point there.

>>9677222
Anon. You search for people saying stuff like "i selfpost" and "i posted that" or whatever. This isn't hard.

I'm also none of the other anons in this thread replying to you, the fact that you're annoying like half a dozen people is pretty impressive.

>>9677128
>>9677129
Are they posting under common hashtags at all? I've been able to find decent accounts to follow under specific brand tags but that's been the extent of it.

>>9677224
gottem bois

>>9677228
>implying everyone is the same anon while claiming that everyone isn't the same anon
n e w f a g s
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>>9677233
Take your meds

>>9677228
You realize there's infinitely many ways people can say that right?
>i was the one selfposting
>i selfposted
>i did selfpost
>the posts were by me
>i posted all of that
>i samefagged
>i was the one samefagging
>etc.

>>9677236
Yes, it wasn't my job to list every possible way to search for it.

>>9677233
Sorry, I was hoping that only one person could be this obtuse. My hope was in vain.

What’s even happening in this thread anymore?

>>9677124
true
hi there, me from earlier

>>9677156
By that same logic you are also butthurt, and so am I. Which makes sense I guess since we're all the same person.

>>9677236
If you are THIS invested in it why don't you look it up instead of making yourself look insane in front of a ton of people?

>>9677239
kek, i wasn't the same anon you were replying to earlier, i was just calling out how retarded you sounded. guess you really are butthurt

>>9677242
Are you sure it wasn't you? This is the same level of 12yo edgy as all the other posts.

>>9677238
You claim you saw the post, therefore you'd have an idea of what it says. Unless you were making it up, which you are.

>>9677240
If you're so invested on claiming what you said is true, why don't you look it up instead of making yourself look insane in front of a ton of people?

>cue the t-totally not a samefag post

Okay, let's not derail general anymore.

Does anyone know if VM is going to be restocking any of their winter coats? They seemed to all sell out quickly and there's always "request restock notice" on their website. Do they do traditional rereleases or do they just restock whenever they want to?

>>9677247
[mental illness intensifies]

Wow, 240+ posts in a new thread in one day. Some of you are seriously invested.

Anyways most brands have released new outerwear for the season. Baby/AATP have even moved them to their sale section online lol. Is that a sign of dismal sales? Do you tend to buy coats new or secondhand?

>>9677245
It's okay to be in denial anon, it's one of the first stages of acceptance. It's not always easy to acknowledge how retarded you sound to multiple people.

>>9677253
>denial is the first stage of acceptance

I get what you're trying to say but you missed the mark so badly I'm just astounded

>>9677249
>>9677235
Projection isn't cute anon, maybe you should lie down for a little bit.

>>9677253
denial is the first stage TO acceptance* not of you dumb cunt

>>9677248
I'd love to know this too. I don't think I've ever seen them do an actual restock though, as opposed to a refreshed rerelease.

>>9677251
Have bought new, and I want to buy secondhand but it doesn't seem like CC is doing their big coat sale this year? Was really hoping that they would.

>>9677256
>>9677258
Congrats, you got to the second stage! I hope lashing out about a typo helps you along on your progression :)

>>9677240
implying there's more than 4 anons total even replying to this whole chain
kek, delusional

>>9677260
>called out on being retarded
>y-you're angry bc I made a typo

>mfw anon is probably actually insane and thinks that every post on cgl that isn't hers is the same person
>mfw there is someone so sick in this world

>>9677262
>people don't lurk
>people don't come on at different times and won't see the absolute insanity

T A K E Y O U R M E D S

>>9677264
>of vs to
>one letter difference
>haha you must be RETARDED!!!!!!! xDDDDD
Aww sweetie, whatever makes you feel better. Hope you get well soon.

>>9677269
>one letter difference
Lol, it's a two letter word and you messed it up. Don't blame others for thinking you're regarded when two letters is too much for you to handle.

>>9677266
see >>9677257
Do you need to call someone for a bit? Or maybe sit on the side and take some slow breaths? I know that helps some people when they're having a fit.

>>9677248
I would submit my email on the "request restock notice" form and hope for the best. Though like >>9677259 I haven't seen them restock coats in the same season before.

>>9677271
>no one can every mistype anything ever
>mobile typing is not a thing
>regarded
XDDD LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IS "REGARDED"

>>9677273
>all this projection

>>9677278
>i know you are but what am i?
gottem bois

>>9677277
it's just a one letter difference anon : ^ )

why so upset over it if it doesn't matter?

>>9677220
Sanrio didn't want to sponsor her.

If you want more KE drama, go Lolcow.

>>9676819
I love gothic but it's rare that I hear of/ see something new that interests me. Plain black coat and vest # 1,000 makes it boring to go through new releases. Boz is the worst about this

>>9677280
>not realizing anon was mocking you for typoing while claiming one letter of typo makes you retarded
>asking people why they're upset while being so obviously upset yourself
w e w

>>9677280
Exactly, so I guess you're retarded by your own standards.

>>9677285
>not realizing I was making a joke after I even pointed it out for you with : ^ )

Someone needs to take you out back and put you out of your misery.

>>9677251
I tend to buy coats new because I use them so much here. (I live in an area with cold winters and cool falls) Buying secondhand wouldn't be useful to me, but they are very expensive. Maybe if I lived in a climate where I just need a coat now and then, I'd buy secondhand.

Another thing is, once you have some good coats, you don't tend to get rid of them so quickly. You typically just need them for part of the year so they don't see a lot of use.

>>9677229
use the Japanese lolita fashion tags

>>9677247
I'm not anyone who has claimed to have seen this post, I only commented on how easy it is to verify these things with the archive.

That being said, of course people have admitted to samefagging here before.

>>9676590
Please don't take the sour grapes to heart! I think hearing input from the community is always going to help make a better end product! Everyone's creativity has different strengths.

>>9677124
Our mind is blown

>>9677138
A bad one, you snatch

>>9677331
people have admitted to samefagging, not saying that every single post typing in a certain manner was posted by them, which is what anon is trying to claim

>>9677292
>haha im not retarded guys, it was just a joke
>kys
e d g y

S H U T U P

this chick was apparently harassing another girl (drama is on rufflechat), can anyone tell who it is by the profile pic?

>>9677438
Shes already been named and shamed, several people were given screencaps of the talk with the name not censored. Its Sara Backdahl (with an umlaut over the a in Back but I'm too lazy to make that)

Around the same time she harassed this girl an image of the harassed girl also appeared on the ita thread, so its safe to same its the same girl.

I normally don't get into this, but this girl is just sad, she dug up pics of the girl to post on the ita thread and was incredibly petty to her for reasons no one knows. Its shitty behavior and I think she deserves a name and shame

>>9677431
you seem mad anon, do you need some help?

>>9677447
Thanks for the info, I did some preliminary searching but didn't want to message that OP for more details. I think it piqued my interest because she actually looked pretty, what a waste. Why go out of your way to act so embarrassing, she must have some issues.

>>9677501
I mean the most I can say is maybe theres more to it we dont know, but from what I saw she was just being bitchy to show off how "better" she was.

Keep that stuff hidden on cgl if youre so inclined to be that salty.

>>9677251
I usually buy new because I plan to keep them for a long time as I'll get a lot of use out of them and I want something that looks good. But this year I'm searching for something specific so I'm having to look at secondhand and I'm worried it'll be completely worn out.

>>9677120
>This is the most odd and asspulled insult I've seen today.
At least it wasn't the same repetitive bullshit anons usually say.

God fucking damn. For once I wasn't the one trolling this thread.

>>9677536
Shh anon, you'll give away that not all anons are the same person

>>9677251
I usually buy second hand because I like Mary Magdalene coats. The ones I have bought on Japanese sites then to have very little wear and are much cheaper than buying new.

>>9677538
To be fair, there is definitely a hive mind here with how often I see the phrases
>sorry you got posted
>newfag/samefag (they're pretty much interchangeable at this point)
>ur fat
>projecting
>go back2tumblr
>ya walnut

I don't think any other board is as nearly as repetitive as this place is.

>>9677559
Shut up newfag. Go back to tumblr.

>>9677559
ya walnut

>>9677559
I think it's because the board is so small/slow compared to other boards, we tend to pick up on each others' syntax pretty easily. So far my deepest shame is being mistaken for Voldie.

>>9677559
Stop projecting.

>>9677559
>I don't think any other board is nearly as repetitive
>/r9k/ has an actual no duplicates/ originality rule because of so much repetition

>>9677105
Oh no! Where can I get that cute bear?!

>>9677565
nice try Voldie

>>9677666
Being this new...

Ugh..Fine here's the spoonfeed...

Its Kuma Kumya, Baby's mascot bear. Its usually a bag or pochette, not just a toy. Good luck trying to get one cause those things are overpriced to hell and back.

See also: Usakumya

>>9677712
>good luck trying to get one
they pop up for reasonable prices secondhand. stop calling other people new/acting like it's a nuisance when you're giving incorrect info lmao

>>9677712
Usually, I'm a /toy/ lurker and just generally not into lolita at all.

>>9676574
its washing machine safe if you use cold and colour catchers.

>>9676999
.>>9677003
that is not a-line..

>>9677744
You can buy an usakumya here:
https://shop.baby-aatp.com/collections/baby-the-stars-shine-bright/products/reservation-b41uk866-usakumya-pochette
There's no Kumakumya pochettes on either the US or JP site and it doesn't come with clothes. It's pretty useless as a bag, honestly, but on both the first set of ears pull back and have bear ears underneath. No regrets

i cant believe it but i miss HWCs brand of trolling. you people are so unbelievably stupid i can barely stand it

>>9677770
hi hwc

>>9677447
She just shared an article on FB about someone else being harassed, the hypocrite.

>>9677771
lol im in canada. i dont have a husband-worship fetish either

>>9677447
YIKES, I am (now was) friends with this chick, she'd been nothing but friendly with me, but I'm definitely cutting her loose. Even while we were friends she was regularly bitchy and a rampant sjw in the worst ways possible, it's sad to see someone so pretty be so ugly on the inside.

>>9677770
All she did was say ur fat over and over and tell people to kill themselves. You miss that? Start doing it yourself. Fuck. Anyone could do that.

>>9677565
Everyone thought I was Claire when she was posting all dreamy planetarium all the time.

>>9677560
>>9677564
>>9677568
Good one

>>9677251
I’ve bought all my coats new, but I only need so many coats and it’s not like I wear through them fast enough to need a new one every year. People in my comm already think I’m overdoing it with three different coats lol

>>9677812
its better than this, i think im fed up in general with all the crossboarders recently though. so many threads are getting tanked before there can be discussion

>>9677591
Do you have any idea how much we could benefit from that?

>>9677822
Between HWC's posts and idiots who took the bait, a lot of threads died prematurely and also shut out discussion. Go to lolcow if you want that sort of thing.

>>9677822
I like seeing this place get ripped apart. There's so many assholes here who rely on board culture as a mental crutch. I'm glad their fun is being dissected finally. Hwc was so unsuccessful in doing anything other than getting attention for herself. Gulls are such hypocrites- like no one else can be an attention whore and get away with it but some anon can have dumb ama threads?

Besides. Its obvious she was about to be found out. I went to the farm when she was posting to help get rid of her. They were starting to dig up dirt and I think its not too far fetched to assume it was just some r9k fag rping. Especially since she posted on /x/ too

>>9677124
Didn't someone draw this once?

>>9677508
I’m definitely getting the feeling we’re ony getting one side of the story here. OP’s story sounds bizarre and if it’s actually true this girl has issues, but why would she target OP? They appear to be on different continents and craziness aside, S appears to be much better at lolita than J. Idk if I had issues and wanted to harass someone for no reason it would make more sense to pick someone I had a beef with or was jealous of. Why some nobody? It’s bizarre.
Maybe she has autism and was actually trying to help in a really misguided way?

>>9677770
Eh I preferred CG to be honest, wonder what happened to her.

>>9677908

Banned by hot pockets. Last time I saw her was somewhere on lolcow.

VM and MM are my favorite brands but I have cow tits. Would getting a binder help or would it just make everything boobloaf worse?

>>9677917
VM often releases skirts, get those and get a blouse from a brand that fits you

This was a fast thread...

>>9677910
>hot pockets
is that the fat mod that someone posted a pic of once?

Does anyone else have problems with Lacemarket? Nothing happens when I try to refine my search. I'm using internet explorer because I don't have my own computer.

>>9678142
new thread
>>9677925

>>9677140
Ah yes, that was quite a sight to behold

>>9677447
She didn't look for any pictures the girl on RC sent it to Sara. I've seen the screencaps and I think both are at fault. They started to argue about a print that went way out of proportions.

>>9677908
i think i prefer any lolita troll over random guys who dont even wanna shitpost about the fashion. id prefer it at least be on topic shitposts lol