/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9690789
I’m not into rorita, but this coat is very pretty. Where can I find it?

>>9690802
>rorita
please don't do this
also it's from atelier boz but not on their site anymore, you'll have to look on secondhand sites

>>9690805
I do that all the time, don't get any questions about the book from normies and fetishists can't find me as easily

>>9690802
I think it's meant to be a dress and it is still available in other colors

>>9690808
sure but that doesn't making fun of japanese accents ok?

>>9690818
It's not making fun of them, SJW-chan. It's calling a Japanese fashion the way it's called in Japan to avoid wrong associations.

>>9690818
Are you angry when brando is used too? It’s a common meme at this point to use stuff like that and rorito calm ya tits

Thoughts on wearing lolita dresses without petticoat?

There was a chinese lolita on instagram with literally a room full of brand main pieces. Anyone remember the name or saved the picture?

>>9690832
is that the same girl who has michael's blessing in every colourway too?

>>9690838
I'm not sure but if you know it, could you post the name?

>>9690831
It ain’t Lolita when you do it but otherwise go for it. Just don’t post on cof

>>9690831
I often do it for everyday clothing, especially when the dresses are too short and there's an important risk of having the bottom my petti on display

>>9690832
Kinokobiubiubiu is what comes to my mind but I don’t know if she’s the Michael’s blessing girl who the other anon talks about.

>>9690842
I don't know who it is, I was trying to narrow it down so whoever knows can tell us both, sorry anon!

>>9690831

It's actually quite common on some of the older, longer dresses. It's usually the not-sweet brands that favored the tea-length dresses, so most of them had a lot less poof than the knee-length dresses to begin with. They generally looked much better if you didn't overstuff them, so they generally looked all right without a petticoat most of the time.

The knee-length dresses, on the other hand, generally looked like ass. Doesn't seem to matter if it was a classic dress from Mary Magdalene (which actually requires more poof, because they really liked doing pintucks and ruffles, all of which collapses into a heavy frumpy mess if you don't use a petti to fully fill out the skirt), or a sweet brand like AP, which generally puts more fabric into their skirt width precisely so you can look cuter being a giant poofy fluff, but of course you end up looking like a sad wilted lettuce of fabric if the skirt didn't at least have a built-in petti under it.

tl;dr, depends on the dress. Some of them look good without a petti.. Others look like shit.

>>9690842
I can't access weibo, but this tumblr post has a redirect to the weibo post.

>>9690914
Dropped my link:
http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/post/138443850881/frederica1995-bless-from-michael-encyclopaedia

Has anyone else seen this yet?

>>9690932
And attached photo of said dresses.

>>9690933
Sorry forgot to block out name

>>9690934
>>9690933
What an idiot. The two dresses aren't even similar, and the rando Chinese one is clearly not lolita.

>>9690937
>Anything can be Lolita if you believe it is!

How many times has Holy Lantern been re-released by this point?

http://angelicpretty-paris.com/gb/e-boutique/1108-holy-lantern-onepiece.html

Does anyone know if (preferably gothic) brands ever put out actually warm winter gloves? I want some nice, durable ones but my child hands don't fit into Western glove sizes and children's gloves are shitty quality, I was hoping Japanese sizing might be the solution.

>>9690938
Sweetie no, that's not how it works. Lolita has rules for a reason.

>>9690934
Chinese brands like that don't care about lolita, they are not lolita brands, they are just chasing what is popular. Come back when they're more consistent.

Gulls, I got McRib sauce on my dress yesterday and I'm trying to find a way to get it off. This is my first time I got a big stain on me. Anyone have any suggestions?

>>9690940
Will anyone even buy it at this point?

>>9690973
Don't eat McBetus.

>>9690973
Could you post a pic?
If not, what dress and what colorway? How do you normally launder it?

>>9690976
Look, sorry that it got on me. Here's what happened.

>driving to meetup
>drive past McDonald's
>sign reads, "The McRib is back!"
>start craving it, badly
>it's sort of like when a women craves for strange foods when they get pregnant
>that's how it felt
>attend meetup
>drive home with McDonald's on the way
>stop at McDonald's and eat McRib
>get McRib sauce on me

Also I'm not fat and I haven't had sex in over a year. I dated a guy obsessed with Touhou and broke up with him cause he cheated on me with another guy at a Con. Fugging /jp/ers.

>>9690973
Have you put it in the washing machine yet?

>>9690979
>Also I'm not fat and I haven't had sex in over a year.

...?
You're not fat but you don't get laid and you're cheated on in relationships? Are you trying to tell us you're autistic?

Anyway, spot clean the stain and follow the washing directions on the tag.

>>9690979
I did not want to know about any of this

>>9690979
This post makes me think the other post was just bait. Goddamn.

>>9690979
TMI

>>9690992
I guess they just found that image and wanted to use it

>>9690940

The way there's only one colour makes me think this is from someone cancelling their order. Not really a re-release, more of one leftover dress that somebody apparently flaked on, I guess.

Anyone know where to buy Miel in Europe? Don't want to pay shipping from Japan just for 1 item

>>9690979
keked at the ending
>getting cucked by a man

>Waist: about 91.5㎝
My waist is 68cm, will I be swimming in it?

>>9691061
There’s corset lacing in the back. Helped me with it a lot t. Babydoll coat anon

>>9691062
In my experience corset lacing like that looks really bad if I tighten it that much, it ruins the shape of the skirt too

>>9691061
I don't own any of their newer coats so take my opinion with a grain of alt but I have a 69 cm waist and my AP coat with an 80 cm waist fits me well. I think with the corset lacing tightening it a few cm and another extra few cm might be ok. Coats are meant to be worn with stuff underneath anyways so I think it would be fine.

>>9690979
This was an amusing read. Thank you.

>>9691066
It's short af and obviously made up, are you stupid?

>>9690860
How is it not lolita? Its the fundamentals of casual lolita

>>9691067
Who pissed in your cereal today?

>>9691061
It's a big difference but having said that it's a coat, you want the extra space between it and the coord underneath it. It'll be a comfy fit, I think.

>>9691061
it'll be a little big, but coats aren't really supposed to be skintight anyway. i have a 63 cm waist and own several coats that range from 80-90 cm in the waist measurement. feels and looks fine! it's more comfortable for there to be a significant amount of space imo.

>>9691071
Hate to say this because my boyfriend has actual autism but autists need the rules to decide what is and isn't lolita, they don't get it just from the aesthetic. Wearing a petticoat is a rule so if you don't wear one it can't possibly be lolita to them.

How do you justify spending 40$ on tights? I always break them after wearing them 1-2 times but I'm tired of my ugly plain tights

>>9691080
>Petticoat is a rule

More like guidelines, than actual rules.

>>9690942
I have a really nice knit pair by BABY so they do exist.

>>9691084
Oh fuck I just bought replicas of these for $12. I didn't realize they were replicas, I'm pretty new and mostly just look at brand websites and AliExpress

>>9691089
It's sad to see things copied from such small a brand. I've accidentally bought an Aymmy replica before and haven't bought clothes or bags from aliexpress or taobao since. I can't keep up with all the releases to know for sure if it's a replica.
Anyway, if you're ever in Japan I recommend visiting Abilletage, they're known for their corsets and you can get your hair/nails done there too!

>>9691084
Break them how exactly? Runs? Tearing?

My main issue is wear around the heel and the toe (yes, even with socks) but I've worn printed tights many times with no other problems.

>>9691120
tearing

>>9690802
Brand name is literally on the picture. Rorita. Gtfo.

>>9691126
Do you keep your nails short and neatly trimmed?
Are you wearing very cheap tights?
Where are they tearing?

>>9691133
They're not tearing because of my nails, they tear because of walking too close to tables/furniture, sitting on a chair or bench, putting on shoes, zippers, velcro, bracelets, rings, cats and dogs... I don't even have a pet but it happens. I only use cotton tights now.

>>9691138
Yeah, Christ, either you're clumsy, not paying close enough attention or just have terrible luck. I've gone traveling, to conventions, walked a few miles in delicate tights with no issues. Granted I usually wear a very thin pair of socks to prevent tears in the toes and heel, but on the legs? Can't blame you for switching to cotton.

Mind if I ask where you usually get yours from?

>>9690933
This baby dress is apparently going to become the scapegoat for all sorts of bad logic.
People are using it to defend this Scarlet O'Hara cosplay dress on updates now, because it's obviously a ~lolita wedding dress~

>>9691170
Oh those comments... especially from Chinese lolitas using "Inb4". Rolling my eyes.

>>9691061
It's an highwaist anon... plus you need extra-centimeters to feel as comfy as possible

On the other hand, does anybody knows if i can find brand jackets with 95+ centimeters bust (tall and hourglass i am)?

>>9690938
God, this chick pissed me off. So I can wear a hoodie and jeans and call it lolita, because the fashion isn't confined by rules and anything can be called lolita if you say it is. Got it.

>>9691187
IW larges go up to 100cm!

Also, VM has some extra space built in so they go to like ~96-98 cm in my experience. I wouldn't reccomend them if you are layering undernieth and plan to button them all the way but they work

t. also 95 cm

I participated in the Holy Lantern MTO that was this spring/summer. It's the first time I've done an MTO...at the time APs website said that they would start delivering them, I think, around mid to late October?

My orders status of 'sourcing from japan' hasn't updated since September. Is this normal? Are they just running behind because maybe they got so many orders? I'm sorry if it's a stupid question, like I said it was my first brand MTO and I guess I expected it to be here by now or go more smoothly than this...

>>9691084
I've owned my abilletage tights for years as daily wear, never had a tear, machine washed them after each wear without fading. abilletage tights aren't the same as multipack 20 denier tights from the supermarket. I spend 4000 yen for them the same way I spend 4000 yen on Moitie socks

>>9691213
The HL MTO is late as fuck. I’m supeised more people aren’t throwing a hissy because they wanted it for Halloween

>>9691213
It's late. The initial release had production issues too. It's not rare for delivery estimates to be wrong like this for make to order items though. Things happen.

>>9691187
I measured the part of my waist that I assume corresponds with the 91.5cm

>>9691064
>>9691077
Thanks, now I just need to decide between grey and black!

>>9691223
Yeah you never know with manufacturers in a foreign country desu

>>9691223
AP outsources their manufacturing to a North Korean textile plant.

>>9691232
I think they actually had issues with the flocking process putting holes in the chiffon or something the first time around, if I remember correctly.

>>9691072
It's not even about that. Green text is such an old played out thing. It shouldn't be amusing unless you're new as fuck and you enjoy make em up's. Go watch tv if you want something fake to enjoy.

>>9690826
>Not calling it vrando, as obviously intended
Fucking racist

>>9690825
Sorry, late answer but if you are interested in any more reviews: they used to have a much thicker and shinier fabric for their dresses but recently switched for a nice matte crepe which is definitely prettier! (not sure what the fabric for the new collection will be, but if it's the same crepe fabric, I would say it's worth the price)

>>9691260
T b h I mostly want the new collection because I'm a sucker for the theme and have such a big, gay crush on Marie.

>>9690979
Have you checked your iron levels ? Craving random food can be a sign of low iron count.

>>9691238
Where did you hear that anon? I'm just curious because I can only tell what's on the tags for the last place it was touched (mostly China and Japan).

>>9691304
It was clearly bait, anon.

With the big Usakumya rucksacks, how much can you actually fit inside them?

>>9691262
not that anon but I take iron filled birth control on my period and still get insane cravings.

>>9690970
This is such a sad sweeping generalization, and clearly not true.

>>9690880
I have an old meta dress with a longer length that looks decent without a petti. I prefer wearing it with just a low-poof petti, as I think it looks better on me that way but it looks fine without. The way it's gathered at the waist gives it some natural poofiness already.

>>9690880
sorry, meant to reply to >>9690831
>>9691330

>>9691180
HAHAHAHA sorry anon you’re a fuckwit, how long have you been on LU, because besides from the spelling. That person is not a chinese lolita, get your facts right.

>>9691306
I can fit my phone, keys, cards, and lipstick in mine.

Why are people so good at adding their 2 cents when they don’t know shit. I’m sick of “cinnamon stick” telling everyone she’s gotten scammed and stalked because oh dear moderating is soooo dangerous hashtag don’t do it senpai. Bruh that’s literally a criminal offence and it has nothing to do with doing your job well as a moderator for a lolita group. Learn some fucking context before you lay out your ‘experience’

>>9691376
It's just another way of getting pity points.
"Look at how hard my life is and I have to moderate too, boo hoo". It's the same of those who like to insert "their life story" to a random conversation.

Saw that on RC. Oh boy oh boy.

>>9691439

>>9691138
I am cursed with being clumsy too, I understand your pain when it comes to tights.

>>9691306
Not really, no. Miho Matsuda cardigans are made in Korea so it sounded believable. That's why I asked for a source.

>>9691490
But I also completely glossed over the 'north' part. Oh well.

>>9690831
i only do it if my old school skirts arent big enough to hold the pettis i have, because all i have are very large ones

>>9690942
i have older lady gloves, theyre black with tiny black pearls and rose embroidery and old lady gloves run small. maybe start looking there?

>>9691447
Honestly I just save all my printed tights for meetups or tea parties and then just wear socks or regular tights every other day.

>>9690808
I thought you just said you aren't into lolita, so why would you need to explain it? Checkmate LARPer

>>9691306
you can basically put your fist in it if you have small hands

Guess who's back?

>>9691522
i accidentally hit the laugh react on a post on his profile once and a bunch of old men messaged me about wanting to cum on my legs

>>9691522
Yeah, almost like the person running this fake profile came back from their last hiatus. And oh look, here you are posting about it...

>>9691537
the profile has been active for a long time tho? hes always sissy posting to his own page he just doesnt post in lolita groups much because hes banned from 99% of them. check the page yourself.

Has any lolita here had a nose job? I have a broken nose, it was set well after the break and isn't very crooked but I'm very insecure about it. I feel like it ruins my face and makes my coords looks worse.
>Do you regret your nose job?
>Approximate cost?
>Was it difficult to decide on a surgeon, did you spend a lot of time seeing multiple appointments before choosing your surgeon?
Any replies are seriously appreciated, I haven't even told anyone in my life I've been considering it because I don't want to be called vain or stupid just for thinking of it...

>>9691637
Frances is a meme that goes back to tripfagging days and it was a common joke on cgl that peaked in 2012. I don't know why newfags want to believe it's a real person when it's just a forced meme.

>>9691672
Someone posted about their experience a while back:

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/9410256/#9433024

>>9691721
whoever is running that account, roleplayer or not has a very real friends list full of sissies and a very real sissy fetish. trolls dont log into their account every day to interact with random fetishists and talk about politics and housekeeping

i just started watching this anime-gatari stuff and in the fifth episode, there's a qi-lolita who appears.
for some reason, i feel like i've seen this dress before. maybe on taobao? i was wondering if there was anyone who could place the design itt. it has the same vertical ribbons/lace down the front as it does the back if that helps.

>>9691742
this is the front if that helps.

>>9691522
Kris arent you so proud of yourself posting the same thing here and on RC:U hmmm? Most embarrassing behaviour! At least keep your useless salty catty self to anon.

>>9691741
>trolls aren't active everyday and would never infiltrate a sissy comm and add sissy friends bc it's not like people ever blindly accept friend requests on fb
Anon please stop with this meme. It was never funny.

>>9691672
Tbh if someone/some accident broke my nose a nose job would be the first thing I‘d consider. It‘s the best excuse to get one without seeming vain. After all, it’s not your or nature‘s fault, right?
I‘ve thought about getting one for my natural nose a few times already..

>>9691306
Jack shit - bought one used and was a little disappointed (I didn't expect it to be as roomy as an actual backpack but like... i think it only has a little more room than the pochette)

>>9690831
Do it all the time, it doesn't work with like ott sweet big cotton dresses, but with fabrics that drape nice without it, it's perfectly fine.

>>9691766
I broke it a long time ago and when they set it straight everyone told me im basically stupid for worrying about something like beauty
"oh anon but its straight! who cares if its three times fucking wider lol"

>>9691519
There are several people in this thread, it isn't just you talking to the same person

Who let this into a fashion show?

Warning: I made this image for personal reference and then realized it might be useful. So yeah, it's ugly.

So I'm shopping for underskirts and after making this I thought it could act as a simple template for others trying to figure out how to lengthen the look of their dress. Basically it's as the text says; try to take a clear enough picture of yourself so the measuring tape is readable, then mark as needed (obviously I went with inches) and then mark again based on the measurements of the underskirt. And ta-da; you have a personal visual aid for deciding on which length option to go for. To say the least, I thought I would have needed the longer length, but then realized the shorter version will do the job better.

For reference, I am wearing a classical puppets cupcake petticoat that they sell at their standard 18" length. They have a longer size but it's a little "too classic" for a dress like this at 23" long. Also Candy Sparkle JSK with lace trim is 21 1/2" inches (55 cm) from the waist band to the hem. The trim is 2 inches, or 4 1/2 cm.

>>9691370
Sorry you got posted anon

>>9691853
Wut?

>>9691853
Don't get your frills in a twist anon, you're losing the argument. Ran out of comebacks? Let me tell you this, that's not me you stupid fuck haha.

>>9691768
>>9691521
That's disappointing.
I'll probably still get one because I love Usakumya and Kumakumya, but it sucks that it won't be much of space upgrade over the ones I already have.

>>9691672
>Has any lolita here had a nose job? I have a broken nose, it was set well after the break and isn't very crooked but I'm very insecure about it. I feel like it ruins my face and makes my coords looks worse.
>>Do you regret your nose job?

Not at all. Sometimes I wonder if I would have grown to like my old nose, as I got more mature.
It was not broken, just a small bump

>>Approximate cost?
I can't remember. But it had to include the job costs, the hospital bed and anesthesiologist.
It might vary country to country, and it was a long time ago.

>>Was it difficult to decide on a surgeon, did you spend a lot of time seeing multiple appointments before choosing your surgeon?

It was a known surgeon that friends and family know.

>Any replies are seriously appreciated

I think is ok as long as the change is small, and fits the proportion of your face. I like to think it is an improvement on yourself. But seriously, I would go to a psychologist first to be sure your selfesteem issues come from something else.

But in general, even though it helped my self-esteem, it would not solve everything. Sometimes I would keep hating my nose and finding any angle to hate it, no matter what. Growing up and learning about my angles and feeling loved for others things than physical appearance have helped a lot.
I also used to go to therapy. That helped a lot.

If a girl is wearing a classic dress from the Victorian era. Does it make her a lolita or a person in a Victorian dress?

>>9692123
>a classic dress from the Victorian era
Do you mean an actual Victorian dress? Victorian dresses are beautiful but they're not lolita, so wearing one wouldn't make someone a lolita.

>>9691672

>Do you regret your nose job?
No, in fact I regret not getting it sooner. I always hated my nose and now that it's not ugly as sin I feel way more confident and actually look pretty.

>Approximate cost?
I went to a super good surgeon and after my insurance covered a part of it, it cost me around $4500. If your nose is broken they might cover the whole procedure.

>Was it difficult to decide on a surgeon, did you spend a lot of time seeing multiple appointments before choosing your surgeon?

I saw only one surgeon that did both of my sisters' noses. I'd recommend shopping around and asking anyone you know that's had a nose job. There is definitely a difference between how good a surgeon's work is, their cost, and the healing process.

You shouldn't feel stupid or vain for wanting a nose job. It's an extremely common procedure, and if you don't like something about yourself you should change it.

>>9691837
gross legs

>>9691959
i dont ever plan on reselling mine so i reached into the pocket, pulled it through, cut the bottom edge and sewed in more pocket space inside, removed a little bit of stuffing to make room
you cant tell from the outside at all. if you cant sew a tailor could do it for like 10-15USD

>>9692112
you're smart anon. ill talk to my therapist and bring up how much i hate my face and see what she thinks i should do.
>>9692136
i would definitely ask if i knew anyone at all, i guess thats why i came here. i guess its not common where im from?4 or 5 thousand is affordable, i was worried itd be twice that

I can’t be the only one who thinks it’s funny how when Kelly Eden was being criticized for fucking over AP shop staff for personal gain, Fahr was telling everyone to stop critcizing her actions and to get off their high horse, but when Kat Von D makes a makeup tutorial that has nothing to do with us she’s garbage who needs to get fucked and stay away from lolita. Hypocrisy much? I thought that if you don’t have anything nice to say you shouldn’t say anything at all UwU

>>9692189
isnt farh a jew tho and KVD is a known neo nazi? id have personal issues too if i was a jewlita lol

>>9692160
Suit yourself

You could end up like one of those surgery addicts that are never satisfied.

>>9692196
>KVD is a known neo nazi
Source?

>>9692196
I actually agree with her criticism of KvD, I dislike her too. What I don’t agree with is telling people that they’re not allowed to criticize one “celebrity’s” shitty actions only to then turn around and shit all over another “celebrity”. If you’re going to be holier-than-thou and lecture people, at least be consistent. Or are we only allowed to criticize people Fahr already dislikes?

>>9692196
Is she a real neonazi or a "neonazi"?

>>9692225
>>9692239
google is friend. she dated a "real" neonazi, shes worn nazi uniforms more than once, made some seriously fucked up comments.
>>9692226
i mean dont let fahr tell you who to hate on lol. shes not in charge of anyone its only her opinion of kelly/KVD really doesnt effect you

>>9692239
>>9692225
KVD used to date/was engaged with Jesse James, someone who was a neo nazi but never called him out. She's been accused of writing anti-semitic things to an ex-employer, but there's no proof if it was a forgery or not.

>>9692250
The pictures that people say are her in the uniform are actually of Michelle McGee, not KVD, unless there's ones other than the stripper Nazi set that you're talking about.

>>9692136
Why did your insurance cover part of it?

>>9692219
This isn’t a real thing outside of “reality” tv.

>watch out anon you might wind up as one of those people who realizes surgery is cheaper and easier than you thought and that the alterations to your body actually make you happy. Oh no

>>9691768
Is there a reason they put out so many small purses? Is it because they don't need to practical?

>>9692160
You should check out realself if you haven't already! There's a lot of testimonies and pictures from people who have had surgeries, and it's really good to read through people's experiences and get an idea of which clinics to consider.

>>9692291
Yeah, I think Usa/Kumakumya are more like accessories or jewelry than bags, really. Not to mention most Japanese people I've seen with them also carried another purse and also probably a pass case. For them, there's no need for it to be big.

>>9692275
Don't you often have to keep doing surgeries to keep it the way you want? Just thinking of the asian idols who did plastic surgery and became super ugly later in life

A bit of a loaded question but after seeing all the beautiful things DMC and Rufflecon had to offer and the not so great things for both cons it got me thinking, what makes these mega meet ups? What works, what doesnt? if you had the resources how you plan something akin to rufflecon or Dream masquerade?

>>9692327
only some kinds of alterations need to be upkept, mostly botox, saline injections that sort of thing that the body works out. something like a bone and cartilage surgery doesnt revert itself

>>9692136
what did your old nose look like?

How big is Meta's LL shoe size?

>>9692327
Only older surgeries and techniques, like the L-shaped nose implants, need to be upkept throughout your life. Newer surgery techniques are permanent.

>>9692401
Did you hear that from a plastic surgeon? Time will tell

>>9692414
No, I heard that from medical studies. Please don't be a retard anon.

>>9692189
source on her comments on KVD?

>>9692417
They predicted the actual future?

>>9692424
Did you know established scientists and doctors are much smarter than the average person and can give better predictions than some retard on a Chinese cartoon site?

>>9692425
Sure but I'm not risking my face on some doctors opinion who may have personal interest in it. Maybe you live in a place where everyone speaks the truth but I don't.

>>9692431
Let's not get too off topic here

>>9692424
It might be a foreign concept to you anon, but there's a thing called science and research that allows you to predict what's likely to happen! That's why they can tell you what the weather will be tomorrow! It's not magic, and I'm sorry I had to break it to you this way.

>>9692196
Fahr is 100% Germanic. She may wish she were Japanese, but she’s never pretended to be Jewish.

>>9692257
Yeah, but Sandra Bullock was married to the creep and almost adopted a black kid with him. Maybe he hides it well, don’t know how, he’s ugly as sin.

>>9692471
ah so its that "we backed hitler" guilt

sigh...i'm a fucking idiot.

recently i saw a listing for a taobao dress on LM. and despite the several glaring red flags that it was just a marked-up replica (i even contacted the seller and asked them if it was the genuine article; they gave me vague-ish answer that they couldn't verify that it was THE brand because they couldn't find a tag, but that it was definitely the same fabric), I bought it anyway because I just...really wanted the dress. and i'm a fucking idiot.

a week or so later i finally image searched on taobao and confirmed that it was indeed a replica, selling for like $12. i paid $60.

I'm accepting my fate and biting the bullet on this one because it was my own damn stupidity, and the seller didn't technically lead me to believe it was the genuine article at all. i'm just kind of unsure what i should leave for feedback though at this point once i receive the dress and the process is finally over. what would you gulls do?

>tl;dr: stupidly bought overpriced taobao replica on lacemarket hoping it was the real thing; unsure what kind of feedback to leave; seeking guidance

>>9692511
did you buy a nameless poem replica

>>9692516
no, it was actually house of hannover

>>9692521
I don't think print replicas are allowed on LM, so you could already have a case there. I'd leave a negative review desu, but you should at least leave a neutral warning people.

I bought a blouse for a set that I like but when I tried it on it seemed too big for me. I noticed the dress has adjustable lacing in the back, would that help with making the blouse look more fitted since I'd be able to tighten it up?

>>9692528
yeah, it was listed as 'Apartment JSK' rather than House of Hannover...and because of that, I didn't feel I have any right to complain now.

I do want to somehow warn people, though.

I don't really appreciate the roundabout way the seller played on my naivete, but once again, I feel like that's on me since they never explicitly claimed that it was House of Hannover.

>>9692546
It would likely just make the dress tighter and the blouse fabric bunch up underneath, it might work it you pull the blouse down under your dress and tuck it into your petticoat before tightening the dress, but that depends on what areas of the blouse are too loose. If it’s really bad it might be worth just sewing darts into the back of the blouse for a more tailored look if you’re open to alterations. It’s hard to think of a solution without knowing what blouse and dress it is, as well as what parts of the blouse are too big for you.

>>9690802
>rorita
Maybe, uh, learn the absolute basics like our fashion style is called "lolita" before ever asking anything else.

>>9690831
It can work in gothic thanks to things like EGA. That's why this case looks nice. Don't make it a habit, though. If you want to not wear a petticoat, choose literally any other fashion style on the face of the planet.

>>9691828
It was a joke, like, a year ago

>>9692550
Replicas deserve negative feedback. That shit is not cool or allowed.

>>9691258
Frilly Nazis BTFO

>>9690979
>>9690973
So, in other words, you're male and just made up this story so you could post this picture of a lolita eating a burger? Poor bait.

>>9692550
Replicas aren't allowed at all on LM though, even if she didn't call it by it's name.

>>9692602
>>9692608
Yeah...I hate myself for buying it to begin with because it's so obvious to me now, but now that she has my $60 i would really rather prevent this from happening to anyone else.

negative feedback it is, then...

the dress still hasn't gotten here, either...it's been sitting in customs in NY for a week now and still hasn't been received by the USPS

>>9692623
You could always refuse the package and request a refund. Imo not disclosing that goods are counterfeit is bottom of the barrel, second only to actually scamming people by not sending out things they've bought. I want nothing to do with replicas.

>>9692632
should i contact the seller and try to return it?

paypal claim the order? or contact an LM mod?

...sorry for all the questions, but i really appreciate you gulls' help

Are there any places that list luckypack contents? how about websites/pages that list rereleases?

Sometimes I can find rereleases posted on lolibrary... I kinda wish they linked them all together so you could easy go through them.

I'm trying to determine the names/dates of most of my wardrobe. Most of them I can't even find on lolibrary, though I can find them in GLB. I can't find any of my luckypack pieces on lolibrary, and it's hit or miss as to whether I can find my rerelease versions on my few rerelease pieces.

Just curious if maybe others knew of any other resources for dating pieces. Most of my wardrobe is pre-2009

>>9692511
You have 180 days to on PayPal anon. It's against PayPal TOS to sell counterfeit goods. Open a claim and get your money back.

>>9692511
fuck hanayoku and mrk honestly, I hate resellers especially at that crazy markup
can't they be put on the blacklist?

It seems like every third or fourth item I buy from LM, the seller makes an excuse that they are too ill to send it out at a reasonable time. Why don't they make up a better excuse...or just be honest? Apparently 70% of the lolita population is constantly sick.

>>9692390
I wear a 9 US / 39 EU and they fit me perfectly.

>>9692546
Sometimes I use shirt stays to hold a bigger blouse down. That might work if it's not HUGE on you? Otherwise it tends to get bunched up in the dress when you move.

>>9692659
Prints made specifically for the lucky packs are listed on lolibrary. You probably won't find something like a specific white blouse that came in an AP lucky pack since those are very generic. A lot of times lucky pack items are just leftover stock that didn't sell so searching for the word lucky pack won't really help since it will be categorized by it's release, not if it was ever eventually included in a lucky pack.

>>9692764
I actually reported mrk to the LM mods on their Facebook page, they didn’t ban her but I think it might have contributed to the 3 offbrand rule. I still think they were too lenient though. She used to have ~50ish listings of ‘NWT taobao dresses’ but now it’s around 20 and she’s starting to sell marked up wigs as well.... Can someone else report mrk as well? Maybe if more people do that, they might be more inclined to ban them.

Does anyone know any shops I can find size 11 in women's RHS?

>>9691213
I got my Holy Lantern several weeks ago. I hope you get yours soon!

>>9692885
Vivienne Westwood

>>9692899
I think they meant someplace where you don't have to sell a kidney to buy from.

>>9692903
poor bigfoot lol

>>9692899
Thanks, I already know of them, but I was hoping for a less expensive alternative.

I might be able to get antaina RHS in size 11 but I'm pretty out of luck when it comes to jfashion shoes as well as western shoes lol. Curse my tall girl genes. At least I have a pretty flat chest and can wear brand, I guess.

RC is back on the “why don’t Japanese brands cater to 100+ waists???” train. I wish FB had a user notes feature like LJ did so I could keep track of the entitled idiots and reasonable people for future reference.
>saying people who fit into brand are shaped like children
>”Western lolitas are all plus sized by Japanese standards tehehe”

What if

Lacemarket has a database (lolibrary) linked to it and when someone sells item from your wishlist an automated message is sent to your e-mail.

>>9692949
hoo boy I can't wait to watch this one. it's already starting on the "if you don't think all fat people are 100% blameless angels you're a fatphobic elitist meanie".

>>9692964
That would be spectacular anon, I'd love a feature like this!

>>9692327
Echoing what the others have said. Most types of body modification surgery are permanent (or at least have a permanent option) these days. Science is awesome!

My surgery and my tattoos and my haircut and my makeup every day are the exact same thing: expressions of how I want my body to look. Some are just more permanent than others! I’m so happy with it, and I highly encourage anons who genuinely want to change their bodies and can afford to do so to do it. You only get one life, and there’s no prize at the end for dying exactly the same as you were born. Do what makes you happy with the skin you’re in, whether that’s a gigantic Pokémon back piece or a new nose or whatever.

>>9692789
What do you consider a reasonable time? If you want people shipping things out the next day you’re dreaming.

>>9692511
>not having an eye for quality

>>9692949
Wow I didn't expect the "shaped like children" comment to be so literal.

>>9692588
It's actually fine to call it rorita, I'm not going to stop just because it went out of trend

>>9692903
You would never have to buy new ones

>>9692996
Me neither, Jesus. I was thinking “I mean some brand skirts are literally 18”-20” waists, on a global average that is a prepubescent child’s measurement” but... no. Ugh. Istg the intersection of people who cry about being too big for brand and people who cry about being too poor for brand is the lolita circle of hell. NOT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE ACCESSIBLE BY EVERYONE.

>>9692996
>fandom

>>9692996
Ugh, I hate these people. They are the first to scream 'ANA-CHAN' to any person with a healthy weight.
Like, sorry the new average is fat. Our society has gone downhill. Fatacceptence was the worst thing to happen to these fucks.

>>9692996
This annoys me a lot and it's impossible to disagree without being dogpiled. I fit unshirred Moitie, VM, etc. and I have a dramatic hourglass shape. I also know overweight people who have proportions that resemble a toddler more than an adult. Having excess fat doesn't make you more of an adult or a more womanly woman, it just makes you fat. Insulting people who are smaller than you won't make you fit brand any better, either.

Also fuck that person who equated the statement that obesity is unhealthy to racism and sexism. Fuck them for equating scientific fact to hate speech and oppression. Fuck them.

>>9693002
I don't understand how these people look at something as luxurious and self-indulgent as lolita fashion, which is inspired by upperclass clothing from eras where economic and class inequality was even worse than it is now, and see something that needs to be accessible to everyone as if it's some fundamental human right. Pic related. If someone's eating healthy and losing weight that's great, but it still doesn't mean that niche Japanese fashion brands owe it to them to make clothes in their size. If you can't possibly be happy without wearing lolita you have bigger issues than just your weight.

>>9693059
I hate the whole "I can be healthy and be overweight" narrative. No, you aren't. Yes, the BMI applies to you as well. No you don't have a medical condition, a big built or heavy bones, you are just fat. Only a small minority can be excluded from the BMI and only a small minority has a condition that affects their calorie intake (any even if, it's simply dieting hard-mode).
I'd love to reply to all of them, but I'd rather save my energy.

>>9693067
B-but BMI doesn't take organs or bones into account, so apparently normal-weight people don't have organs or bones! And body builders exist! I mean, not a single person in that thread complaining about fit is a body builder, but they exist out there somewhere, so there!!

I'm also loving the girl who had a mod explain to her why expanding sizing would result in higher costs, and completely misinterpreted what these extra costs would be (someone told her that Melty Berry Princess goes for $600 on the secondhand market and she took this as evidence that AP was trying to rip off fat people), then later on in the thread is going “Ohhhh you don’t wanna meet this girl I talked to!!” and painting her as being super unreasonable because she’s skinny. Like, does she not realize we can all scroll up and see the actual conversation? Does she not realize the mod herself can read her posts and see how her POV is being misrepresented? How dumb can you be?

>>9692984
It's been two weeks today. She dodges messages too.

>>9693078
I think it's also funny how some of them are complaining about wider bodies or heavy bones. It's not like excess weight also covers your organs and slowly expands the ribcage or fat people have denser bones, because the body needs heavy bones to even lift all the excess weight.

>>9693083
This gets me too. Yes, if you're seriously overweight some of your organs will enlarge and become coated in adipose tissue and your skeleton will warp. This is a result of being overweight. You don't get to subtract those factors from your weight or BMI, and you definitely don’t get to claim you’re in perfect health at the same time. They’re direct evidence to the contrary!

It reminds me of my extended family, many of whom are obese and have obesity-related health issues like diabetes type II, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, sleep apnea, hormonal issues and even colon cancer. All of them will point at these factors as the CAUSE of their obesity even though they only started seeing symptoms many years after crossing the obesity threshold, which strongly suggests they’re more likely to be EFFECTS of obesity. And even then, whenever someone, even a doctor, suggests they try to lose weight, they insist that they don’t need to because they’re perfectly healthy. Critical thinking went out the window a long time ago.

Personally I do have skeletal-related fit issues with certain brands and pieces. I have wide shoulders and long arms which makes most OPs fit really awkwardly on me, and wide hips which means brand shorts are out of the question. However when I try to bring this up in a conversation about fit issues I get shut down because I’m skinny and "lucky". Why though? They can lose weight, I can’t shorten my humerus.

Okay, stupid question but I vaguely remember there being talk of a store that sold brand somewhere in chicago (like Tokyo rebel). I'm stuck here today and was hoping to shop to kill the boredom. Is there such a thing? Or am I just going to have to stare at Chanel I can't afford like all the other pleb tourists.

>>9692949
>>9692968
>>9692996
>>9693002
>>9693020
>>9693059
>>9693067
>>9693078
>>9693083
>>9693106

>>9693124
Did you post this on RC, too?

>>9693128
I feel like it if nobody else has. The second I saw "What do you think of plus size--" I knew it would just be another tired rally of big girls trying to justify themselves, and gulls getting buttblasted over some of the replies.
I just wish people would shut the fuck up about it entirely. It really doesn't matter, we've had these discussions for years.

I'm sorry for the people who buy Dolly Cross Hospital for +$100 on LM and FB. Why not buy it directly off taobao for literally half the price?

>>9692964
That‘d be very convenient, but you do know that you can already get mail notifications for keywords (for example print names)? I use this feature a lot.

>>9693294
Would that work if I'm looking for Ritual?

>>9692911
I have a pair of 27cm antaina rhs, they're decent and comfy. You can also try Angelic Imprint, they cater to large sizes too.

The "after" looks like trash

>>9693312
The "before" looks worse though.

>>9693291
Not one of those people but their reasoning is it's 50 bucks on taobao and 20 more to ship it (they'll usually get other stuff to make it worthwhile) and then another 1 month wait. Some lazy people just want the convenience and they want it right now.

>>9693291
They're dumb so they don't deserve good prices for their shitty dress

>>9693312
Am I the only one who doesn't really see a problem with the "before" image other than that it's unflattering?

>>9693363
I don't see a problem with it either, but apparently cgl is full of skinny girls with massive boobs so that cut is unflattering on them

>>9693363
I mean, isn't it a problem if it's unflattering? Appearance matters in fashion and if what you're wearing doesn't fit properly then you're doing something wrong.

>>9693369
You're right about that. Just in her post she talked about how the construction and general quality of the dress was so appalling she had to take it to a seamstress to fix up.

The fatty debate on rufflechat sparked some interesting arguments in my comm. Basically a fat girl made a poll asking if she could buy replicas because she wants British Bear but she's too big. Everyone said no way and then another girl had the flounce of a lifetime.
>R u plus?

>>9693392
What's with all the folks/"folx"?

>>9693392
>someone is disagreeing with me and challenging my faulty assertions! MOOOOOODS!!!

>>9691439
This Is a literal child.

>>9693408
It sounds progressive but some people think "folks" is too twee by itself so they decided to spice it up. They could just say "plus sized lolitas" in this context and it wouldn't sound like it assumed the gender of the people involved honestly

>>9693392
Why is it always those super fatties that are the most butthurt lol?
Just put down the fork if it's so hard. (unless she got a genetical disorder,but most of the time it's just them having no self control)

>>9693392
What a fat entitled cunt. Judging from her profile pic she's probably tacky SJW trash. Good thing she can't fit her cellulite covered ass into lolita.

>>9693067
Being someone who was once massively obese, with a thyroid/hormone problem that makes losing weight very hard, who is now a normal weight, I agree with this.

Sure, You can be overweight and eat healthy and work out daily, etc, but if You're truly healthy, it will be reflected in your body as well and you will be closer to the average in terms of weight.

Face it, fatties. You have to take responsibility for your actions and work on changing yourself. Fat acceptance does nothing but make people complacent and delusional.

>>9693059
I know right. You can't control what race and gender you are.

>>9692949
>saying people who fit into brand are shaped like children
>”Western lolitas are all plus sized by Japanese standards tehehe”
When they said that I was like "bitch I fit brand perfectly!"

>>9693392
>when she gets bovvered at the thought of someone needing to alter their brand because they're small

lmfao i love it

>>9693392
God I hate amerifats so much. How old is red? Does she want 2 minutes of silence for us all to think about her suffering?

>>9693456
Is it? People shouldn't post minors on here expecting them to be well-behaved adults.

>>9693456
Really? If so, my bad. I didn't know.

>>9693392
I hate it when people add question marks to every sentence when they aren't asking a questions.

>>9693392
She doesn't wear lolita and doesn't come to meets, why is she in the community again?

>>9693535
we're canadian

>>9693392
Thats why plus size lolitas are mistaken for itas
i'm a plus size lolita and i get my dresses altered if i does not come my size. Plus size/minor size girls should just realize that their body is special, but brands can't afford to make plus size dresses all the time, becouse it does not sell for japanese girls. Whats the problem on paying more 10$ to get it alterated? grow up, stop trying to be a special snow flake that crys all the time for no big deal
> stop making plus size lolitas sound like total spoiled/itas/replica-chans

>>9693392
I mean this is the same chick who was rude af on the mods personal fb post about lolita being cultural appropriation. “Sure are a lot of whities adding their opinion”. Bitches be crazy

>>9693641
cultural appropriation is the biggest bullshit ever

>>9692638
I would contact both the seller and LM. If the seller refuses to refund after it's sent back, contact PayPal.

>>9690944
>>9691080
What are some common rules/guidelines? It's easy to say something looks bad if the mix doesn't work right...I know for the most part it comes down to theme and aesthetic. But what guideline are "safe" as a generalization? Is there such a thing?

>>9693653
everytime i see a comunist lolita I LOL
lolita is the most capitalist fashion
but the coord is nice btw

The petticoat helps to keep the skirt in shape, it's hard to tell buy pictures, becouse the pose/angle can make it look nice even without it. But you should get a petti if you want any kind of shape, even if it's small.
It need a petti to be lolita, even longer dresses do. You can still wear it, but just don't call it lolita, senpai

>>9693408
apparently folks was first used like "they" as a genderneutral statement but now every snowflake uses it to refer to any oppressed group. im not a fan tho for some reason black folk/x sounds more racist than just saying black people.
>>9693500
I almost commented myself that i had to take in newer ap but didnt want to start even more laffs
>>9693620
well shes flounced now, good riddance
>>9693641
>pop culture ie lolita fash
>cultural appropriation
these two things cant overlap, but the sjws dont understand that

>>9692390
They are too big if you are an 8, I would say 8.5- 9

I'm excited about Black Friday on LM but kind of annoyed it requires 10% markdown when a lot of my dresses are priced very low compared to their normal sales. I have no problem doing 5-10$ off, but when a dress is already $50 less than it should be and not selling, it's frustrating

>Mfw just want to sell everything that doesn't bring me joy without giving it away

>>9693818
Post them on the Buy Sell Trade thread anon. Someone might be interested.

>>9693671
Fast fashion is far more capitalist than lolita what with sweat shops etc. Just because lolita is expensive (and yes, it does to a certain degree have a culture of needing to keep changing and expanding your wardrobe) doesn't mean it's on the level of luxury brands like gucci or saint laurent etc in the difference between production costs and price.

MILITARY

CAMO

COORDS

WHEN

>>9693934
At least most items are made in Japan which has better labor laws than the countries fast fashion uses.

>>9693946
This is all I got senpai

>>9693934
t b h I'm two skips shy of a filthy commie and I buy second hand Jfashion because at least I know it's quality and I'll wear it for years. Fuck I'd rather (and have) bought second hand jimmy choos before buying from target

>>9692588
And how do the Japanese pronounce Lolita? You get a gold star if you guess it right.

>>9693970
https://youtu.be/3jzLn9WvJAY?t=55s
heres lolita ambassador misako aoki saying lolita with an L. quit it with the racism
>i even time start it for you

Dumb question, but where/when should I get lucky packs if I want to get a pack that's a somewhat-wearable coord straight out of the pack? I'm looking to start wearing classic lolita and I want to start with a few lucky packs so it feels less intimidating to start coording with some items.

Both Taobao and Japanese burando's alright, although I have more experience ordering from Taobao.

>>9694039
If you are looking to get into classic, you could try Innocent World. Oddment packs are basically capsule wardrobes although they probably require a few more accessories and don't come out regularly.
I think you are looking for "happy packs" which have their contents revealed and are generally meant to go together. IW has put out a few of them before, and Meta's skirt happy packs have been getting more and more cohesive than in the past. Meta also puts out a New Years print happy pack but it's not always classic.

>>9693653
>wear a petticoat
Not a tutu or a short costumey piece of garbage, an actual petticoat, preferably made of layers of chiffon or organza as tulle deflates and becomes useless quickly. It should be about 2" shorter than your skirt and its shape must match what you're wearing (A-line vs. cupcake).
>cover your shoulders
If you can't wear a blouse under your JSK, wear a bolero or cardigan on top instead, just please don't go out with your shoulders bare. The only exceptions imo is when the weather is too warm, or if it actually looks good, though the latter point is debatable, most JSKs look like shit worn without a blouse.
>more or less knee length dresses
This applies more to too-short dresses: If you can't bend over safely in your dress, it's probably too short. Most common length for dresses is about knee length, a bit above or below the knee is the safe too depending on what you personally find comfortable.
>wear bloomers
Bloomers themselves aren't mandatory per se, some people hate them so it's fine to wear shorts instead, but please wear something to cover your underwear, it's too easy to accidentally flash people whether it's windy or not.
>cover your legs
Bare legs look stupid in lolita, please don't do it. Sheer pantyhose aren't a thing either, especially if your name is Frances. Ankle socks are fine for summer, knee socks are okay if they actually look good on you because they make most people look stumpy; OTKs are popular, as are tights. They can be printed, patterned, or plain with lace at or scallops the top, just don't wear completely plain socks, they make you look like you cheapened out on your coord.
>wear something in your hair
Even a tiny hair clip is better than nothing at all. Try to actually style your hair before you slap something on, and pick a hair accessory that flatters you.

>>9693970
How about you fuck off and stop being such a weeb?

>>9693653
>>9694045
Also,
>wear high quality pieces
If it's made with cheap materials, it's usually obvious. You could be ticking all the above and still look like garbage if you're wearing cheaply made shit from whatever Chinese seller you bought from on eBay or Milanoo.
>groom yourself
Should be obvious but apparently isn't: style your hair*, fix your nails, iron/steam your dresses, clean your shoes, use sock glue if your socks don't stay up. Looking unkempt in an expensive, fancy fashion is embarrassing to you on a personal level and to the group you're with if you're at a meetup.
*A note about hair: You can wear a wig if you want/need to, as long as it's high quality; don't settle for any old cosplay wig, and don't just plop it on your head without styling it. If it doesn't look like natural hair, you shouldn't wear it. This is something that an obscene amount of girls fail at so I feel it's important to say.
Read F Yeah Lolita on blogspot and this: http://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com/ if you want more in depth information, this is already a blog post on its own.

Any idea what happened to the Vietnamese indie brand Bunny House? Their Facebook is still up but their google forms isn’t taking any responses. No indication of a hiatus or calling quits, but I’d hate to see them go. I love their petticoats and mine has lasted forever but I wanted a blouse from them too...

>>9694051
they replied to a comment i made on their page now too long ago about a bolero?

>>9693392
>tfw too tall to fit most unshirred OPs
>just buy jsks instead

Is that so hard to do? Plus OPs are a pain in the ass to handwash

>>9693379
Bitches like this are the reason why I started working out instead of whining about things not fitting. This makes me wanna go out for a run right now but it's 3 AM
Can't wait until I'm proof that you don't have to stay a big fat fuck forever!!!

>>9694051
Are you sure you're on the right Facebook page? They have two (with similar names) and one of them isn't used anymore.

>>9693626
completely changed my image of canadians being skinny

>>9693989
I prefer to say rorita over lolita, it 100% improves my interactions with normie family and colleagues.

>>9693989
No one is being racist.

>>9694047
Why are you so angry, anon?

>>9694080
Rawr-ita XD

>>9694041
Thank you for the information! Around what holidays should I be on the lookout among brands for packs, or is this a random thing that I'll have to be vigilant about?

>>9694142
It changes every year. Twitter is probably best and maybe the brands you're interested in also do email newsletters

>>9694039

>pack that's a somewhat-wearable coord straight out of the pack
>classic lolita

If you have no issues about secondhand/someone else coording for you: Lolita Desu lucky pack (secondhand items)
- very few of the classic brands do an actual coordinated lucky pack. Lolita Desu will accept requests where you tell them what you like and they’ll send you a “blind” bag of secondhand stuff, so if you request a full coord, they’ll do their best to put together one. Of course, don’t expect a full outfit for $10 or something, and keep in mind you’re basically trusting some random person to coord the outfit for you, so ymmv, and keep your communication and expectations clear.

If it must be new and must be a matching outfit : Meta, AatP
- Your best bet is to watch Metamorphose and Alice and the Pirates for their special sets. Both brands kind of swing between sweet and …..whatever style they want. Sometimes they do swing towards something that looks classic-ish. Be aware that AatP didn’t include blouses in their last LP, so you might have to get your own blouse on top of shoes, bag, etc, while Meta sometimes includes collars with Dumbo’s ears-level Peter Pan collars.

If it must be Innocent World:
- Their LPs are generally whatever doesn’t sell in the sales, so it’s even odds whether it matches or not. The staff do generally make some kind of effort at matching, eg - you’re likely to get an LP that’s all black and white, or all warm colours, etc, but it’s still all sales leftovers, so it’s not always a coherent outfit. The oddments pack never matches. It’s a nice capsule wardrobe about the size of a small refrigerator, but usually looks like it was frankensteined together from ten other wardrobes’ leftovers. In theory you should be able to find at least one decent outfit from all that stuff, though, and sell off the other stuff, so it’s not too bad if you can cough up the $300 or $500 or $800 + shipping they generally cost.

>>9694155
That's why I wanted to buy a couple packs at a time to start with so I'd have SOME coording options, since I'm really indecisive when I look at all the options on catalogs. Having a limit (aka people choosing rando stuff for me) makes it a little less intimidating.

These are looking like really good options though, thank you!

>>9693312
Can someone explain what this fiasco is all about? I'm so tired of fatties being angry about people tailoring a piece to make them fit them and then they just explode in anger when it actually gets altered.

Both look awful on her, but the second certainly looks better. Her boobloaf is all you see in the first one and at least it looks like she has a waist and isn't a fucking square in the second image set.

>>9693379
I own several dresses from them and the quality is fine. The one time it wasnt, i returned it for a new one. Im pretty chubby, 80waist, 98bust and they all fit fine on me. The thing that irked me is how she complained how horrinle it was when clearly all it was was unflattering. Which sucks but we all get that one dress that looks like ass on us and then we know not to buy that dress again. Amd then she complained about not being able to be refunded? She replied to one girl saying she didnt pay through paypal since they are both in the same country. Why the fuck does that? I would never give up my buyer protection unless im buying/selling from a close friend. This girl is a moron.

What is with AP's sizing? I'm too small for a lot of their dresses, but somehow half the cardigans I like or buy are weirdly small on me.

>>9694195
Their dresses have become One Huge Size Flatters Nobody but the rest of their items are still made to fit their main customer base: average Asian girls. So if you're like me, a slender but long-limbed Western piggu, you're SOL.

>>9694039
Anon, I just ordered an XXL Lolita Desu lucky pack that >>9694155 mentioned. There have been reviews on here in the past, and as long as you're okay with second hand it looks exactly like what you want. I plan on posting mine when I get it, if you want to see!

Pic related: a large (I believe?) pack an anon bought in the past

>>9694202
I could understand struggling with sleeve length or the shoulders, but two cardigans I bought off CC without checking lolibrary for first just arrived, one has a bust of 84cm (basically no stretch), the other is only 86 (with some stretch). The latter isn't so bad, but the former makes me look like an overstuffed sausage.
My bust is only 84-85cm without frills, maybe 88 with frills, and I'm literally swimming in half my dream dresses.

>>9694209
Is the price good for what you get? Couldn't you have found the same/similar items for cheaper or the same price yourself?

>>9694215
I've done the math and for what I want (a big box o' wardrobe filler), it's likely going to come out to around $30 an item. Can I buy the same myself? Sure, I'm a pretty good second hand shopper. But I am really in need of a lot of stuff I just don't want to spend the hours picking out (tops, outerwear, etc.) Plus, I love surprises!

I'd think of it less as a value "lucky pack" and more like one of those normie shopping services like stitch fix. I'm not really saving too much money, but they are providing a valuable service for me so it's cool.

And honestly? Is there really that much value in getting a lot of shit you can't wear (oddment packs/lucky packs) or shit that is deliberately cheaper quality (happy packs/special sets/some lucky packs)?

>>9694222
Ok but it would be really fun to personal shop for someone. For some people half the fun is shopping but others can’t navigate their way around Facebook sales,let alone Y!JA or in store shit.

Let me buy you flattering clothes, your body type will thank you

>>9694225
Honestly, I agree and I'm the one paying them. Normally I'm all about trudging thru auctions and finding the ~perfect piece~ but lately I've been tired and desperately short on some fundamentals for my work wardrobe (I requested casual classic). I've got money from my side hustle and would rather just pay for a big box of surprise me right now haha

>>9694214
That's strange anon. I only own 2 AP cardigans and a bunch of parkas but they all definitely fit me and I have a 86 cm bust. My bust is mostly ribcage though, maybe that's part of it?

>>9694252
I have plenty of others that fit fine, but I've had a string of one's that don't fit lately.

>>9693001
hello fellow Dutchie!

Is it me or has RC become incredibly dumb over the last couple of days?

>>9694202
as a marshmallow girl with a 20cm diff between waist and bust, I can't fit their backshirred designs and sack dresses are unflattering. I reeaallyy wish they'd release more beautiful fully shirred OPs. I love full shirring, but I get that it's more of an old school style that isn't the trend anymore.

Wunderwelt let's you search for items with or without shirring. Maybe they've had that option for a while but I just noticed and holy fuck am I happy

>>9693946
>All these bitches trying to be indie brands and no one giving the people what they really want

>>9694369
>marshmallow girl
Anon, just admit you're chubby or fat. We all do.

>>9694209
Always been curious about the lolitadesu packs, but I'll never buy one. I've tried buying lucky packs from multiple brands and I think I've sold off/donated everything from every single one of them. So many years of wasted money to properly learn that it's not a thing for me.

>>9694342
RC has always been pretty dumb, but I agree the past few days have been especially stupid.

>>9694418
I've only ever bought lucky packs where there's no surprise element. I always thought it would be fun to do the big IW ones purely to then sell them onto Lolitas in my native country who can't afford stuff at full price + the shipping from Japan, like some sort of lolita santa clause. But the truth is that's too much effort for me to list and sell stuff.

From what I've seen of Lolita Desu luck packs, they're worth it if all you are intrested in is a theme, a size or a brand. Meaning; you love one brand so much that you just want stuff from them, but don't have specific pieces in mind. Or you really need more chocolate-themed items. Or you just want pieces that fit you out of the box and want to make it someone else's job to measure and browse through stuff.

I once saw a haul where the girl said to Lolita desu that she wanted any causal clothing or accessories that thematically matched this one AP print (in a mint / pastel colorway) and it looked like Lolita Desu did their homework and made sure it all matched even though the brands of items ranged from AP to chocomint.

>>9694442
You can request the lucky pack theme? I thought it was set themes.

>>9694453
If there's a clear theme that you want like chocolate, strawberries, crowns, crosses, etc., they can do it.

>>9694394
>but m-marshmallow sounds cuter
>180cm, 220lbs
yeah, I'm pretty fat lol but I still want to be a kawaii princess

Anons who participated in GLISH last year, did you enjoy it?
Did any gulls sign up alone?

Did your teams video chat or just message one another? Did you make long-term friends?

I feel like it could be a fun way to make long distance friends and get more involved, but it could also be horribly awkward and weird.

>>9694473
Serious question, how do you fit into Japanese brands? I have a 92 cm bust and I feel like I'm just at the edge of being too big for most brands. Do your clothes fit? Are you comfortable in them?

can anyone ID the op in this Kawaii.i entry?
I have a desperate need for it.
>searched all over, no dice
>looks like Meta
>really hoping it's not handmade

>>9694563
Which brands are you thinking of?

>>9694568

>>9694570
Yoke switched a-line?

>>9694563
I have a 93cm bust, but it's mostly ribcage (i'm a small b) and I fit in a lot of things. I guess it depends. I think most of the things I own have at least a bit of shirring in the back, but I don't overstretch it. Most of my blouses are Baby and I fit in them pretty well. it's not form-fitting tight but if I was to gain 20 lbs or so I wouldn't be able to breathe and would no longer 'fit' in them. Also, Baby made a lot of full shirring blouses (old school is my thing, so most of my experience is there), so as long as You're not fat, you should be okay. I'm just tall with a wide skeleton. It's a bit awkward, but I can wear a lot of oldschool dresses and blouses and skirts with no issues other than length. Most of my brand is meta or baby though. I guess you'd have to be careful with arms too. My arms fit fine in my blouses, but if you have fat/muscular arms that might not work either.

>>9694563
no worries! my clothes fit pretty comfortably. I wear a minimizing bra with certain main pieces I own for a better silho, but other than that I've spent a lot of time hunting down brand that flatters me. I'm limited, and there are a few dreams I'll likely never fit (looking at you guilty meltin' sweets town, and 90% of Millefleurs), but I've done a pretty slamming job at building a legit plus size wardrobe that will fit me nicely even if I lose weight (broad shoulders, tall, and busty...I'll be a thwomp at any weight). it just takes abnormal time and dedication.

I'm guessing your classic? classic is the toughest for me to find brand for. VM, Physical Drop, Chantilly, and MAM occasionally deliver though!
I love old school, classic, and gothic, but there's just way more sweet that fits me. I'm resigned to the fact that I'll never have a themed wardrobe, just things I like that also fit. I like the fashion a lot though so I don't mind.

If you ever have trouble with the way your bust looks in main pieces, definitely incorporate more cute cardigans, aprons, jackets, and bustiers in your coords.

>>9694574
TY. I thought it was velveteen, that was tripping up my search. You are MVP

>>9694585
Np, I knew because it's been on my wishlist for a dramatic long time

>>9694563
I have about the same (~90cm) and I don't really have a problem fitting into stuff, but it's probably because my ribcage is small so it's more soft tissue than bones. I even have unshirred brand stuff.

>>9694579
>>9694599
I have a fairly small ribcage, but with DDs and wide shoulders. Brand OPs without shirring are basically out of the question and anything with sleeves (including blouses) I'm rolling the dice.

But as >>9694581 correctly guessed, I'm into classic, and shirring in modern/non-old school classic is much less common than sweet. What VM pieces have you found? I occassional find their skirts in my size but it seems like most of their JSKs/OPs are 88 cm and under.

How long should I wait for a seller to send an invoice on lacemarket before messaging them myself?

>>9694453
They have set theme options, but you can do a "build your own" where you can ask for pretty much anything you want. One girl even asked for a fuckton of MA*RS and they filled it

>>9694626
A week

>>9694626
I always message sellers right after I win/purchase something. Just say hey, I'm ready to pay the invoice whenever I get it, etc. Just to be polite and let them know I'm not a deadbeat buyer or something.

>>9694473
ew

>>9694473
Holy hell, are you a man?

>>9694678
Fuck, I hate when buyers do this.

>>9691204
It's so frustrating, I always wanted IW dresses, but I never will, my bust is 115cm, and NOTHING ever fits me,and large is too wide for me around the waist.

>>9695215
Then you must hate being paid fast.