/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Let's not do this double general shit again.
>>9704739

>>9704925
let's stick to >>9704739
saged

>>9704935
>>9704933
Couldn't find that one because of the name

Anyone got an invite to the egl discord?

>>9704933
>>9704935
Sorry your thread sucks, OP.

is this the new trend? double gen?

>>9705363
yes it's to mirror the double discords

Forgive me gulls if I live under a rock but I haven't seen an RC thread in a while. Are they against the rules now and get purged by janitors? It would make some sense considering personal Facebook's can be found even if names and pics are blurred just by tracking down threads and matching up comments.

>>9704933
Then why did the other OP misname the thread?

Moitie updated their website!

Is Heart E still in business?

>>9710137
I noticed they have a French shop listed as one of their stockists, No Sphere Boutique in Paris. Anyone been there? They also did photoshoots with old releases for some reason.

>>9710519
The shop closed years ago

So is this the general now, or?

>>9711694
No you should make another one, kill another one of our threads please! stupid lolitas

>>9711711
if it's killed, you weren't using it, let's be honest. This is a slow board, inactive or dead threads get killed, not the active ones. Stupid cosplayer

>>9711694
You can use both!!

Is this the general now?

How do you tell if a release will be popular?

>>9711987
You can't, really. Does it matter? Just buy what you like.

>>9711987
If you’re trying to figure out popularity as a prediction exercise, I use the following metrics:

- How similar is the design to previous bloodbaths?
- How aesthetically pleasing is the design overall?
- Are the available cuts typically popular based on previous releases?
- Are the available colors standard issues that usually sell or are they off the beaten path?
- What’s the buzz around the release been like?

The last point is pretty iffy because I only have access to western groups, so if you can read other languages you’d probably have a better gauge based on that. There have been enough releases where buzz was high here and lolita updates and the release essentially flopped. All the other points are dependent on your existing knowledge of a given brand, and a reasonable amount of subjective taste.

Why are so many lolitas so quick to jump and talk about how high quality brand is? Or even lolita items in general (taobao etc). What does “quality” mean to you?

I’m just curious.

I’ve been trying recently and struggling to sell dresses on Facebook. Is lacemarket good? I really want these things gone and they ain’t going.

>>9712113
>What does “quality” mean to you?
-Soft, sturdy, comfortable fabric: You can generally tell what is and isn't good based on appearance and how the fabric drapes, and by touch, of course.
-Attention to details and construction: Well sewn ruffles, lace, pintucks, etc. Baby's ruffles from 2005-2008 for example own my heart, they're done perfectly. Extra buttons fall under here too; not having them doesn't necessarily mean the garment is badly made but having an extra button sewn on the tag inside is the kind of detail I appreciate. Meta do this often.
-Good designs: Not just overall appearance of the garment, though that counts too; I mean things like having enough fabric in the skirt portion to fit a petticoat nicely. I noticed this difference when I tried on my first IW dress after years of wearing Bodyline - The petticoat fit perfectly and I didn't have to adjust and readjust it or layer it with more petticoats to make the silhouette look good.
No comment on prints because I don't own any, but obviously if the print doesn't endure being cleaned (either by wash or dry cleaning) then it's terrible quality. There were a few examples of this happening to prints by Chinese brands posted in quality threads, they should be in the archive.

>>9712113
The way it's printed

>>9712113
Straight stitches, solid construction, good fabric, crisp prints.

Anyone started thinking about wardrobe posts?

>>9712113
The way it drapes, the durability and how it ages. Some garments just doesn't hold up to years and years of daily use, while some do. If a garment doesn't look like it can age or one can live in it, it goes from clothing to costume. It's hard to describe really, it's a silent knowledge.

do you think the value of secondhand putumayo will rise now that they're gone?

>>9712113
I primarily collect solids like >>9712121 and agree with many of the points made. I really appreciate detailed work like pintucks and fine ruffles, and the use of high quality notions (buttons, clasps, etc).

Fabric matters as well. It's difficult to gauge the weight of materials online, but established brands tend to use the same materials in many of their clothes so you can expect consistency. Consider AATP's baniran cotton prints and VM's chiffon... anything.

>>9712117
Definitely try Lacemarket. As a buyer I love the "watch" option and it's easy to search for items. As a seller, the platform makes it simple to organize my listings. And there's a built in feedback system. If your items have been sitting around for weeks though, it's possible they are priced too high.

>>9712314
I doubt it honestly.

>>9712314
Doubt it, BPN didn't rise in value after they shut down, most of their pieces are actually quite cheap.

Can you buy Emily Temple Cute or Jane Marple anywhere in Sendai?

>>9712314
No.

Real talk, what's the chances I'll fit into shadow dream carnival tights if I'm 6ft? How would baby's socks be? I've never bought brand legwear before so I'm a bit worried. I'm not overweight, I'd say I'm average weight for my height, if it helps. Tall lolitas, can you help a fellow lanky girl out?

>>9712591
I think it probably depends on how wide Your legs are. I don't have any experience with tights, but meta and baby socks fit fine on me (I'm 5'10). sometimes the otks want to slip down but sock glue helps, and utks are always right where they should be (I wear a size 11 in womens US)

>>9712591
Baby's socks are shorter than AP's, their OTKs barely go OTK on me and I'm 5'4".

>>9712113
Just so you know, it's kind of part of lolita "culture" that we demand quality. It's what sets us apart from something like cheap cosplay or literal costumes and makes us more like a fashion worth it's price.

how do you all stop yourself form impulse buying?
>>9712627
Are you wearing their older or newer ones, i have some pairs from this year and I think they're quite stretchy, I'm also 5"4

>>9712366
Look at the shop list on the websites

I would love to see some brand printed socks on fat/chubby legs. People are always talking about how tall they are when talking about socks but how fat do you have to be until the print gets distorted? I only buy solid socks and tights because I'm afraid printed ones only look good on stick figures. I'd say I'm chubby for Europeans and normal-sized for Americans.

I just measured my calves and the thickest part is 41cm

I just measured my calves and the thickest part is 41cm
>>9712657

>>9712151
I have! I'm thinking about buying one of those cheap foam dress forms to display my pieces instead of having to use my bed again.

>>9712657
I'm not chubby but have thick af calves, 15 inches around. Normal seems to be 13-14 based on boot sizes. Meta socks look very distorted, IW also look pretty distorted, Baby are close to being okay but still distorted, Pirates are pretty good, and AP depends on new or old. New AP socks fit me perfectly. Early 2000s AP socks don't fit me, I damaged one of my sets by stretching out the intarsia, creating holes all over the print. Depends on the material also, I have another old pair of AP socks that fits okay. I have yet to find a good source for printed tights and socks for my calf size. Sock dreams have the ugliest, most ita designs. They should not be so commonly recommended. I have found some good stretchy print socks on Ali but I think they were replicas so I'm hesitant to post pictures wearing them online

>>9712151
I hope people don't do so many coords again. If you want to do a CoF masterpost of yourself you could do that separately. These days I mostly look at wardrobe posts because some brands don't have good stock pictures or pictures of details.

>>9712677
Thanks, this is really helpful. I was looking at Moitie and Abilletage socks but I don't think something like pic related could look good when stretched. I'd find it hard to believe the replicas fit any better.

Anyone else have a very simple or casual style and satisfied with it?
I've noticed people comment on my coords being simple or somewhat plain here. Comments are generally pleasant otherwise.
Sometimes I worry that I'm not "developing" enough as a lolita or whatever, but I'm honestly very happy with my coords. I feel cute and comfy, which are my two main goals.
I do want to pad my wardrobe a bit more for variety, but it won't be anything ground breaking.

>>9712677
Thank god someone agrees about sock dreams. I see them recommended left and right, and it always makes me gag.

>>9712591
I'm 5'5" and brand tights are pretty uncomfortable to me because they don't stretch very much with how they're printed

Can axes femme shoes fit US 8/EUR 39?

>>9712702
Yeah for sure, I wear a US 6 and am a size M (a bit too big on me, but the S is too small), so I assume you'll be an L or LL

>>9712113
Quality to me ends up being a number of things all rolled together. Things I look for are:

-Material. Is it soft, is it at least slightly wrinkle resistant, how does it drape? Good material, even cotton, will be at least somewhat wrinkle resistant with rare exceptions. Another important thing is material choice, and if it's appropriate for what they're trying to do. For example are they trying to put boning directly into an unlined cotton dress?
-Print quality. Can it hold up to cleaning of some kind? Not everything has to be machine washable but I hate being afraid of having prints cleaned. Baby is the worst offender of this, and I do think less kindly of them for it.
-Detailing (lace, pintucks, ruffles, corset lacing, etc). I don't need it to use a lot of any of these, but I want what's used to be good, and I want it to be appropriate and make sense as a design choice. Custom lace is a weakness of mine as well.
-Construction. This includes tailoring, as well as general stuff. Are the seams straight, ruffles evenly gathered, corset loops well inserted? Are the bodices well shaped? Is it fully or partially lined?
-Consistency. Can you predict how a dress style is going to fit you, what the material will be like, how it will wash and wear?

There's more of course, but this is a rough idea of what I look for. Plenty of brands fall short in some of these areas, I won't ever say they're perfect. They all have their quirks. But in general brands manage to hit most of these.

When do you consider yourself an experimented lolita?
What separate "well rounded" from "experimented"?
I get called experimented but don't feel like it yet i feel like i am more than just well rounded?

>>9712683
Honestly I only wear sweet and very simple classic so I have never bought either of those brands but that material looks like it would stretch well without distorting too much, like new AP socks. My biggest problem is with cotton socks, so many brand releases are too much cotton and would fit better with spandex/lycra

Can I wash magical etoile in red by hand or is it a dry clean only type affair?
I actually have a bunch of prints I’m afraid to wash or wear but I don’t know how to tell if they’d be ok. Any ideas?

>>9712739
Do you mean experienced?

>>9712677
>>9712695
When people say sock dreams i always thought it was for their solid socks/tights, though

>>9712677
I'm someone who usually recommends sock dreams but it's mostly for the plain colored or plain patterened (non-printed) tights.

>>9712657
I have some printed tights but I don't wear them much because yeah, they get a bit distorted on my legs. It's mostly the reason why I only ever wear plain tights. There's enough interesting basic pattern or lace, etc. tights out there to look interesting but I definitely wish there was a better solution for cool printed tights.

Teja Jamilla is another commonly reccomended one but they only have a few pattern choices and most of them lean towards gothy and not really sweet (not sure which styles you're looking for). I know there's that japanese plus size tight shop (I forget the name of it) but not any reviews on how well they hold up

What does /cgl/ think about Moitie's new phone cases?

>>9712798
Hello this is cgl speaking. I think they are the best

>>9712677
I never recommend sock dreams for printed tights. Most of their printed tights are crappy leg avenue, etc. But they do have some nice socks and nice plain patterned [knit] tights. You jut have to know what is good and what sucks. if it's cheap it's probably shitty.

What do you girls think of my coord?

>>9712692
my cof posts only get comments about how its "nice to see something simple"
i think people like to see things that dont belong at a con or meetup, it has a daily feel that gives some people nostalgia

>>9712642
Older, I have a few printed/woven designs from 2010-2014 and the lace-topped OTKs I bought in 2016.

>>9712798
I really fucking hate that if you don't have an iphone then phone cases are pretty much worthless. At least my phone is decent. Damn.

I just want cute phone cases.

>>9712692
I do. Not only is my style simple, it's also very "samey" and consistent, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I've been into lolita for nearly a decade, I know what I like and want out of it and am now just looking to enjoy myself in it, regardless of whether my style is "interesting" or "creative" to others; as of right now, I don't care about "developing" nor impressing anyone, just about looking good, being comfortable, and accumulating more pieces that I love.

>>9712904
They specifically state several times that you do not need an iphone for that case

>>9712798
Happy to see WW breathing new life into the brand. They're pretty cute, I don't really use wallet cases like this though.

>>9712314
Sadly, they weren't wanted that much when they were around.

>>9712151
I've been thinking of starting on my first wardrobe post. I've been wanting to do one for a while. I have 50 main pieces, mostly brand, and a bunch of brand blouses, bags, shoes, and various accessories. If I did do one it'd definitely be one of the larger wardrobe posts, compared to what's been posted the past couple years for sure.

>>9712151
Already considering it. I've done one last year and two years before that, and my wardrobe has grown significantly since. It's a good way to see how far I've come, helps me get a better idea of what I want to keep, sell, or buy more of, and makes me appreciate what I have more. My biggest concern is that it's time consuming, but it's worth the effort so we'll see.

>>9712993
Please do it, large wardrobes are exciting to look at!

>>9712798
I want one but they're so big. I know they're meant to be universal but judging by those measurements they were probably designed with the plus iPhones in mind or just big smartphones in general. I get that the point was to have it be big so it could fit every phone but since I have an iPhone 6 it'd just be unnecessarily big and clunky. It would make my phone unable to fit in a lot of bags too (which is the whole reason I decided against the plus). Even if they made a slightly smaller size I'd buy one in a heartbeat, Hell I'd probably buy all three. You were so close Moitie

>>9712798

>polyurethane.

No thanks.

>>9712771
Yup. Autocorrect failed me sorry

>>9712151
I was wondering what the consensus was on posting things other than main pieces? Do/will you guys also take photos of blouses, legwear, headwear, accessories, shoes? Do you include or exclude offbrand? What things are you interested in seeing and what things do you skip over?

>>9713022

I post other pieces as well - things like rare novelties often get a good reception.

Offbrand I don't bother sharing because they're frankly not very impressive or interesting.

>>9713022
I take pics of everything minus the boring things like plain socks and tights, and I include detail shots when necessary like with black/black pieces, or pieces that have lots of pretty lace.
As for what's interesting to see, I like cohesive wardrobes and well photographed posts; I'm biased towards old school but super sweet pink AP-full wardrobes are nice to look at too as long as the op cares to put an effort into her photographs and editing.

>>9713022
I like seeing all the extras personally, I find it good inspo sometimes.

I'm debating if I want to make one this year, I want to for the sake of documentation but my wardrobe has exploded a bit and it's kinda embarassing.

>>9712708
Do they typically sell LL size? I've been browsing awhile and haven't seen that notation anywhere. But thank you anyways!

>>9713022

I’d say this depends a lot on your context/wardrobe “story”.

Like if your wardrobe aim was all about thrifting and homemade, then loliables might make up a pretty substantial part of the “story”, in which case I’d include them as a vital part of the wardrobe.

Or, if you wanted to show how your wardrobe was all pink x black, I’d arrange the pics to show everything in pink and black, and not bother excluding at all.

Or, if your thing was about collecting novelties and you’ve got a pretty substantial collection of things from all sorts of brands, it’d be pretty impressive to see them all in a few photos, and you can spotlight the weirder, more interesting pieces.

Or, if your thing was multtiple colourways and sets, I’d do the photos as sets of things, instead of putting all the dresses in one photos, accessories in another and legwear in yet another.

I guess if you can’t figure out a good angle to your wardrobe, or maybe you just have too much stuff to photograph, then just do the main pieces and the lolita-brand things. Loliables and accesories are great if they’re cool, but I would definite try to avoid photos that look like 50% normie kei and not much lolita.

>>9712970
WW is a separate company. they don't work for moitie and moitie doesn't work for them

>>9713123
WW bought Moitie, anon.

>>9713123
WW bought Moitie, anon.

>>9713123
Mate they're owned by the same parent company. It's faster to just say WW.

Any other previews from the AP fashion show/tea party?

>>9713123
m8...

>>9712993
>it'd definitely be one of the larger wardrobe posts, compared to what's been posted the past couple years for sure.
Really? There are a few 100+ and 60+ that post every year. My wardrobe is in that 50+ ballpark and although it's larger than average I don't feel like it's anything exceptional...most girls I know that have been in lolita 4+ years have similar amounts.

>>9713022
I've always photographed everything except plain tights, but I'm wondering if I might hit Livejournal's limit this year...I still want to include detail of blouses and cardigans so I might collage them together into sets of 3 or something. I include offbrand if it's something I wear really often but not otherwise.

I actually dislike seeing wardrobe posts that are just main pieces with nothing else...you can't really see their personal style or whether their wardrobe is well-rounded and wearable, and unless they have rare pieces with no stock photos photos of dresses alone aren't that interesting. A wardrobe with the same main pieces can have a completely different personality with different accessories, so I love to see them.

>>9713146
>>9713138
>>9713136
It makes just as much sense to say WW is owned by MMM and Bershka is owned by Pull&Bear

>>9713158
if your mouth is so big you should def try sticking your foot in it

>>9713047
>I'm debating if I want to make one this year, I want to for the sake of documentation but my wardrobe has exploded a bit and it's kinda embarassing.
Haha, I can relate. My wardrobe exploded while I was at university but I was too embarrassed to post it because my comm knew I didn't have a job and I was ashamed of squandering so much of my government loans on lolita. Didn't want people to speculate that it was daddy's money instead of me being thrifty/irresponsible so I didn't make another wardrobe post until I was working full-time.

>>9713022
I'm honestly only interested in wardrobe posts that include everything and not only the main pieces (brand and indie brand that is, see below for offbrand). Because that is what makes the wardrobe cohesive and complete and I really like how the personal style shines through the matching pieces or unique accessories and I like to imagine the coords that are possible. Without that most wardrobes are pretty boring desu.

About adding offbrand stuff...I personally wouldn't include offbrand main pieces unless they are selfmade. Also things like the generic frilly blouse you found at H&M unless it is something really stellar & unique. Small offbrand items like hair accessoires or jewelry are ok if they match your wardrobe and are not ita tier. Always ask youself if you'd be interested to discover that offbrand item in another persons wardrobe post and make your decision to include it or not based on that. Group unimportant items in 1 photo. There are also some widely accepted offbrand brands like Fluevog that I'm always interested to see included.

What’s with the influx of sissies and cross dressers following and commenting on lolitas? I’ve had 3 in the last few days

>>9713156
I have only seen a couple wardrobe posts, maybe 4 or 5 tops, with more than 50 main pieces on egl the past couple years. That's why I said it'd be one of the larger wardrobes posted recently. I know my wardrobe isn't actually that large but it seems like the girls with the super large wardrobes haven't posted their wardrobes for a while.

Btw if anybody reading this has a big wardrobe please make a post this year. Huge wardrobe posts are my favorites.

>>9713299
Rise in popularity of ddlg in the mainstream (thanks Melanie Martinez), combined with dimwitted, overly "accepting" lolitas crying about "kinkshaming" and branding anyone trying to keep our fashion kink-free an elitist bully.
The international community has gone to shit over the years, sad to say.

>>9713307
Wow, really? I admit last time I read all of them would have been 2014-15. I guess people with large wardrobes get burnt out on posting, or stop bothering once they reach a point where they're only adding a few new items a year so 2014's wouldn't be much different to 2016's or w/e.

Now I think of it, a lot of the girls I know with larger wardrobe's don't bother posting, or some post obviously edited versions of what they have (showing only one substyle or w/e). Guess I should post this year.

>>9713307
My wardrobe is around your size and while I'm definitely going to do one because it's my first year doing a post, I don't blame the girls with massive wardrobes for not wanting to make one. They must take a lot of time to photograph and edit. Looking forward to seeing yours!

>>9712679
A lot of people do the end of the year coord posts. I always gather my best coords and post them to IG

>>9712961
So does it just cover the camera up? the fuck is the point of that.

>>9713317
I’ve never had so many, just one or two within a span of 3 months but all the sudden I’ve had 4 follow me and post “dream dress!” Gag

>>9713299
Maybe you posted something with search words that they also like to use. Like lolita.

>>9713321
>>9713335
They could just post their new stuff with a link to their previous post

>>9713345
I hate that they’re picking up on our jargon.

>>9713343
It can slide up so you can take a pic.

>>9713359
It still wouldn't fit on my phone.

is that OK to wear a dirndl blouse under a jsk?

>>9713378
Post an example? The results I'm getting on google look atrocious.

>>9713378
yes, if it's high quality

>>9713368
what phone?

>>9713378
This is the only girl I know who has done it.

jesus fuck, someone posted in rufflechat about furries and the whole thing is now a shitfest.

>>9712764
Dry cleaning isn't dry at all, they just use solvents instead of water. If you wash it gently in the bath or a large basin with a color-safe detergent and rinse 'til the water runs clear, you shouldn't have any issues.

>>9713335
>They must take a lot of time to photograph and edit.
I think 30 hours or more, mine took over that last year and my wardrobe isn't a 100+ monster. A lot of stuff needs ironing or steaming too because it got wrinkled on the hanger - ironing takes forever and you can't steam batches of more than 10 or 15 items at once without running out of places to hang them to dry. Plus a lot of Northern Hemisphere people only have natural light for a few hours a day now, so if you work 9-5 you can only take photos at weekends. Then image hosting, hotlinking and writing the fucking thing...

>>9713514
Someone replied that furries are spreading HIV at Cons and another person posted a graph showing the furries are bigly sexual in practicing yiffing. How is this related to lolita? Mods haven't closed the thread.

>>9713539
>writing the fucking thing...
if it's not fun, don't do it.

t. someone that misses photo editing and is awaiting a new computer

>>9712151
Thinking of doing one for my own reference as this'll mark my first year in Lolita. My wardrobe isn't super extensive but my god, my coords have gotten so much better.

>>9712151
Might do one for the first time ever, since I finally have enough stuff to wear lolita everyday. But I'm not really excited to do it since people only care about your closet if you have a lot of rare dresses, and it's definitively not the case for me. I feel like it will be useless work.

>>9712151
Ive never done these before but I truly regret it. I thought documenting my stuff when I first started would be meaningless because I had so little. But now I would have really have loved to see how my wardrobe grew and expanded. Newbies please dont be like me

>>9713612
The point is to have fun with it yourself and see how your wardrobe changes. Why would you wait until your wardrobe is so big it takes weeks to photograph?

>>9713563
Correction.
That an HIV prevention tent was seen armt a furry con, and explained to that poster that HIV is a big issue within the community
Both are on topic because it gives a glimpse why the mere suggestion that furry faggots have any fucking place with us is vile.
They're scum, if you haven't come to the same conclusion, I hope you continue living a sheltered life away from them.

>>9712702
Probably depends. I have wide feet and am a 38 length wise, but have to buy 39 to fit the shoes unless they come in wide sizes. I've bought axes Femme shoes before and had to sell them because my foot had literally no room at all to spare; the shoes basically had my exact foot length as their inner length.

>>9713753
Forgot to mention the size. I bought size L, which is supposed to be a Japanese 24.5 which usually is a 39.

>>9712151
I’ve finished mine already. I’m waiting until January to post it though, maybe figure out how to post it on LJ as well...

>>9713378
A lot of traditional and old-fashioned ones work well, the ones out of cotton that don't frame the tits too much
I use some I got from my grandmother in my coords, works fine enough with my oldschool wardrobe
But i dont know how accessible those are outside germany

Whoever is managing the English Facebook of moi meme moitie needs to stop apologising in every post. It makes them look submissive.

>>9713156
Is everyone still going to post on EGL this year? There's been less and less activity and I'm feeling like it's not worth it since livejournal is so dead, and tumblr and instagram is the best format. Maybe I'll put it on instagram a couple of items a day or something.

AHAHAHAHA WTF. This dress goes for $86 on most Taobao RESELLER shops. What wild markup is this?? Should I comment on the listing?

>>9713865
Yeah they should hire a dominatrix instead, those moitiewhores need to know their place.

Does anyone list dresses on LM with starting bid of $1? How do those work out for you? Genuinely curious. Looking for a fast way of cleaning out my closet.

>>9713881
I have started with $10 and it went really well. It was brand though.

>>9713866
Instagram would make the pictures so small and with tumblr people don't or can't leave comments. With both it's annoying to add detail pictures. Livejournal is still the best platform for wardrobe posts.

>>9713888
You can add comments with Tumblr, though. It's a pretty recent re-update.

>>9713899
>recent
they added that function like three years ago?

>>9713877
Do it anon!

>>9713863
Idk, I bought a dirndl dress in a thrift shop in... rotterdam. Plus you can find a lot of stuff on ebay or online stores in general. I like coords with a traditionnal or historical twist.

>>9713512
Oh thanks

I am trying to find a certain item on Lolibrary, but the version I am looking for is not on it. Other versions are so I was able to find out the piece is 10+ years old. Are there any other platforms like Lolibrary where I can try to find it? Or an archive or something. We used to have hello lace, but that site doesn’t exist anymore.

>>9713585
DESU writing is probably the part I enjoy the most. I like taking the time to look through all my pieces and think about what I can say about them, and I usually get inspired for new coords while I'm doing it. But editing - fuck that. My goal this year is to try to edit the colour levels of the photos more consistently so they look cohesive in the post (guess I need some specialist software?), but it's so boring to me. I guess I don't enjoy the process but I do it because I like the end result.

>>9713612
I don't do it for the comments, I do it because I like looking back on it. Having the record there so you can plan coords when you're away from home is really useful, it's so satisfying to scroll your wardrobe on a lunch break. I sometimes even use it while I'm at home, because it's easier to look at a photo of all my hair accessories spread out on the bed than it is to dig through the box I keep them in. If you think you'd like it for your own reference, do it! Like >>9713676, I never regret making my first tiny, shittily-photographed first wardrobe post, since I can see how far I've come.

>>9713899
>>9713900
only if you turned them on and nobody looks at them or replies to them, unless you only have like 3 notes

>>9713914
http://www.lolitahistory.com/gallery/

>>9713914
Most items from hellolace have already been added to lolibrary (unless it's Meta or AP, but there are people working on it) so that is the best source we have atm. If you know how to use the wayback machine try that out and if you have the time go though every GLB and Kera issue that you can find online. It's time consuming but I've been able to identify some older items by that method.

>>9713937
I also enjoyed writing and posting mine. It's great to have to look back at. My wardrobe is a mere shell of what it used to be, so I won't be posting this year. Once I buy new pieces and feel like it's worth posting again I will though.

Are there any nail colours or styles that'd look good in non-OTT lolita? I'm trying to quit biting and grow mine out and I figured I'd be less likely to bite them if they had polish on, but I can't think of anything that'd look right in oldschool/classic beside a clear coat or a French tip. I have really short nail beds as well - dark colours make them look shorter and there isn't much real estate for nail art. It's hard to find inspo pics that aren't on super long nails and desu I'm kind of insecure about drawing attention to them at all. They're not ridged or brittle, just really fucking stubby. Maybe a pearly or champagne sort of colour?

>See handmade item I like on lacemarket
>Make me an offer option is turned on
>Ask seller for a roughly £1-2 discount & faster shipping if possible
>Seller is incredibly offended and passively-agressively chews me out, saying the item is actually worth more than listed and she's got X number of people waiting to buy it

What the hell? Why would you have the option turned on if you don't want people asking you for discounts? Am I missing something? I'd get it if she politely declined, but yeah...

>>9714042

I'd just match the nail colour to the dress colour, eg- pink with pink jsk, light blue with sax jsk, etc.

If you want to get a little more fancy, These kinds of nail stickers with white lacey designs are pretty common, and they'd echo the cotton lace + solid colour aesthetic pretty well. If you're doing old school with black x black you could do silver or gold polish with black lace sticker instead.

>>9712764
No do not wash it. It will bleed. Especially in red. Don't take anons advice. Cotton can fade and bleed when washed in water so it's best to be careful when washing cottons. But red is known to be limited in it's ability to be color fast. I hope you see this before you attempt. If you're ever worried about a print bleeding take a wet white cloth and gently rub it over the fabric in an inconspicuous area to see if any color comes off onto the cloth. Generally speaking polyester will hold it's dyes and cotton will not. But consider that all a parts of a dress may not be the Sam material. Always read the tags and use your best judgement.

>>9713942
You can filter comments in your notifications and see all of them. it works fine and people comment on large posts all the time. I used to make edits that got 10k+ notes and had plenty of comment convos on them. Unless you want /other/ people to see comments on your stuff but that doesn't really serve that much of a purpose outside of vanity imo. If there's a good comment reply to it and it will go up on your blog for your followers to see. Or just reblog with the comment.

Where can I find high resolution lolita pictures? something with at least 1000px in height (not the usual phone camera quality)

I need it for an assignement where we have to make a mockup magazine layout

>>9714069
This is a very long shot but Kera (in the most recent issues at least, not sure about the earlier ones) had full page coord shots in its street snap section. If you can find scans they should be big enough.

>>9714067
I want to comment on wardrobes, a lot of lolitas have comments turned off

>>9714053
That amount is a waste of time to bother asking for.

>>9714077
Then just reblog it or message them?

>>9714121
nah

>>9713748
Agreeing with this.
I think the HIV poster was trying to explain that furries are much more sexual than lolitas and the two coming together don't mix well, since lolita is not sexual in any way, but then got bombarded with people saying "uwu furries aren't sexual that's a small side, anime fans are the same way!! Don't be afraid of people with HIV!!!!"
Last I heard, anime cons aren't having HIV prevention rooms and leaving hotels completely trashed with diapers. Furfags are nothing but fucking sex freaks.

>>9714118
Fair enough, still no need to be rude though.

>>9713866

The annoying thing about Tumblr is all the people who reblog your wardrobe post and tag it as their OC wardrobe. Like, fuck off, it's my wardrobe. It even says so.

>>9713937
I like writing it too, although I try to keep my narrations shortish because no one wants to read a paragraph about every dress. I try to be a bit funny too, but my sense if humor is awful and I should avoid it.

>>9714136
Am I being rude? No. You just have a thin skin.

Sooooo
Melanie Martinez just got accused of rape. Pray with me to hope this ends her career and it's the last we have to hear about her.

>>9714353
>complains about hearing too much about MM
>posts in ANOTHER FUCKING THREAD about her
will you fucking stop tho

>>9714352
Wasn't talking about you anon, I was talking about the message I originally got which was pretty over the top.

Does anyone know of a site that's like pinterest but more like a corkboard or scrapbook?

>>9714353
Was this on Lolcow?

>>9714136
I agree with you anon. It sounds pretty rude of them to me. But hey, now you know never to buy from her.

>>9714353
Hopefully

>>9714354
Whomever you're thinking I am, I am not that anon.

>>9714361
Fair enough

>>9713888
I feel like a wardrobe post would be a good use of the carousel format.

>>9713900
They took it out for a while then put it back in. There were a lot of complaints when they took it out.

Polite sage.

>>9712692
I'm in this boat, I like peices with plainer and more 'wearable' construction (like I can handle ruffles at the bottom of a dress but only one set anything more and it seems too fancy) I don't worry much about having 'boring' coords though; I've found what suits me and makes me happy

I've never been to an AP party before and I'm not sure what I'm wearing yet. Does everyone just do OTT?

can someone post fatties in salopettes to talk me out of buying this one i probably almost fit?

>>9714603

>>9714602
OTT is popular for brand parties because it grabs attention and makes you stand out, and if you have a gorgeous elaborate coord you may have a higher chance at winning the coord contest, if there is one. It's not a requirement though, just keep the dress code in mind and wear what you like.

>>9714603
If you aren't tiny and thin, it won't look good on you.

>>9714604
>>9714610
Bless your kind soul my buying urges have been stayed

>>9714610
What happened to this troll, anyway? I haven't seen her flash her fat upper thighs on CoF for a while now.

>>9714645
She sells soap on etsy now. Pretty sure she's in major debt yet still travels to Japan.

>>9714073
thanks! i'll manage

>>9714387
No but pinterest would actually be good for wardrobe posts

How does this work? I don't see how much it costs
http://yahoo-mbga.jp/avatar/gachax/kvDps638

>>9714891
Where are the faces?

What happened to the value of IW secondhand on the western market? I was looking for a certain jsk and didn't find it but noticed that a bunch of nice IW dresses are being practically given away. If I didn't have such a big wardrobe already I might pick up a couple. Are western lolitas too fat for IW? It really isn't that small. Or is classic just that unpopular right now

>>9714917
New people prefer to buy cheap new dresses instead of cheap secondhand dresses

>>9714732
There are a lot of photographers who do different lolita events, you could ask them for photos. Here's some that I like:

Maya Elaine Art
LightningSavage Photography
Xin Lolita Photography

Additionally if you ask some of the indie brands who have nice photos they may be able to send you some.

>>9714917
IW makes tons of stock that always goes on sale, and like >>9714923 said, newbies love them some cheap taobao. I don't mind much, as most of my wardrobe is IW. Makes my life a lot easier

>>9713877
That happens literally all the time.
We need a real elitist phase again, where taobao is seen like bodyline compared to brand. Too bad brand quality itself isn't that great anymore.

>>9714952

Brand quality is still pretty far above taobao and Bodyline. A lot of the comments on quality come from people who are comparing burando vs burando, as in last year's/last decade's burando vs this year's/this decade's burando.

When you actually try and compare even current burando to current taobao, burando generally wins. Just the guarantee that the print won't flake off is already giving it a headstart over anything printed from taobao. As for the trim and everything else, burando again has a headstart with actual custom embroidered lace or custome real metal pendant charms. You generally have to cherry pick the worst of burando and compare it to top tier taobao to even get them to a comparable level.

I'm going to stick with newbs are dumb. That, and taobao resellers making a lot of noise trying to push their products. The devilinspired campaign was probably transparent to seagulls, but I bet dumb noobs out there swallowed it hook, line and sinker, and are probably browsing for their first disposable taobao outfit, rather than focusing on buying quality dresses.

>>9715000
A lot of newbs I know also like to jump on gimmicks and care about that more than quality and durability. I know several girls who will buy anything with certain animals on it even if the print is poorly designed, the cut is awkward or unflattering, and the quality is so low that the dress starts to degrade after a few washes. B-but it has an axolotl/doge/birb/dragon/blobfish on it so OMG MUST HAV.

Personally I’m a sucker for certain themes and motifs too, but that doesn’t mean I’ll just throw my money at anything featuring that motif, no matter how rare. It needs to be well designed and decent quality above everything else. In the end it should be a piece of clothing I get years of wear out of, not a novelty item I wear to a con once or twice and then shove to the back of the closet. But many newbs and Taobaolitas are still in that con phase and therefore have different priorities than us.

>>9715044
>But many newbs and Taobaolitas are still in that con phase and therefore have different priorities than us

It doesn't help that Taobao pieces tend to be made to look good in photos, but not in person. The few taobao pieces I have photograph great, but look cheap in real life. I'd never wear them out and about, as they look like costume wear in person (quality costume, but costume none-the-less). It's a perfect storm for grabbing the con/meet-lita who cares about looking great in a few pictures but not much else.

>>9715000
>>9715044
>>9715082
I feel the same way about a lot of shoes commonly worn in lolita. I'm not going to drop money on PU shoes that fall apart after a single wear.

>>9715085
I've actually had good luck with shoes from Taobao, though. You need to do your research, and there are occasionally quality errors like there would be elsewhere, but I think Taobao is the easiest way to find shoes.
I also like AP, VM, and JM. My Baby shoes broke quickly, and I haven't owned other "good" jfashion brands. The only pairs of Bodyline shoes I really liked and want more of have been sold out for ages.
I will say that I hate most fast fashion footwear with lolita. I see a lot of girls wear pumps or cheap Japanese shoes, and they just don't work most of the time. Also those shoes are generally so poorly made.

>>9715082
I know a girl who only bought taobao when she started out, because she assumed new brand was very hard to get, and that people selling secondhand would try to scam her. The taobao JSK and blouse she got looked really off, so she quit lolita. Few months later she met me and some other lolitas, saw how nice brand is, and became interested in lolita again. I think a lot of new people just aren't interested in fashion enough to really do research and commit to an expensive purchase, it takes them some time to fall in love with lolita.

>>9715044
The gimmicks annoy me so much. I don't mind the straight up meme dresses because obviously people are buying them for that reason, but when people whine about how AP, Baby etc. are 'boring' because they don't have bizarre shit on their dresses it really grinds my gears. Obviously they aren't going to make weird risky designs with blobfishes and trolls on them because they won't sell well and they (mostly) don't cheap out on designs and cut corners the way taobao brands do.

I get that people who buy taobao stuff have different priorities to people who buy brand and I don't really care what meme dresses conlitas want to wear. But brand is still leagues above and probably always will be, solely because brand is made to last. I don't care when AP puts out another chocolate or berry print because I don't have to buy it. I don't care that it's 'boring' because I know it's what sells and that many actual lolitas want to build a cohesive wardrobe that will last them years. Rather than a collection of 'interesting' meme tier dresses with mismatched lace and the print flaking off.

>>9715000
I'm so sick of seeing devilinspired posts by lolitas that obviously only wear brand and would never pay for that stuff themselves. It's okay for people like Lor that wants to appeal to everyone and show how to wear the fashion on a budget, but for people that only have social media to show off how much brand they have I just don't believe it. Do they get any compensation for the sponsorships or just a free dress? Because I don't think I'd want to sell out for one shitty dress from an overpriced reseller that I'd never actually pay for.

>>9715082
When I went to a convention selling honey diamond dresses, I found out how cheap they felt and looked.

>>9715090
>so she quit lolita
wait, that's such a dramatic reaction.
I was new once and loving the fashion was literally the easiest part. it really makes me question the motivations of people like this...do they actually want to wear it, or is it a case of just wanting 'to sit with us'?

>>9715121
She wanted to wear it but because it sucked so much irl she lost interest. She actually has no interest in joining our comm even now.

Am I right in assuming that late December and Januari isn't a good time to sell? I want to start selling off some of my pieces but still have to figure a few things out so I wouldn't mind waiting a month or two. I get the impression that most people will be spending their money on holiday stuff rather than secondhand lolita around this time but I'm not sure.

>>9715126
it's the natural way I guess. uninvested people/casuals get knocked off. maybe there are other things she likes genuinely. don't feel bad since this situation is actual proof that she wasn't going to really be into the fashion&culture like others in your comm. she just isn't a lolita, and that's okay.

>>9715090
> new people just aren't interested in fashion enough to really do research and commit to an expensive purchase
I can attest to this. When I first heard of the fashion it was back when taobao wasn't a thing and the only options were brand and bodyline. I never liked bodyline designs so I just never wore the fashion for years, just admired it from afar. I finally felt comfortable spending the money on brand once I went to Japan and saw the stuff in person, then I knew straight away that I wanted to commit to the fashion.

I think if i had bought taobao and/or bodyline back in the day I probably would've fallen out of love with the fashion quickly the way your friend did. The first time seeing brand stuff in person is always really exciting because of the quality and the amount of detail that goes into it. Cheaper alternatives are great for those that just want to try out new styles and take instagram pictures, but nothing is quite like the moment of getting your first brand dress or even seeing brand in person for the first time.

>>9715121
I think they want to wear it, but they have too high expectations and taobao stuff just doesn't fulfil them. It can be a case of 'what you ordered vs what you actually got' being completely different and for some people that can scare them away from the fashion.

>>9715137
Did you read my comment? She genuinely loves lolita and wears it

>>9715121
To be fair, my first experience with lolita was bodyline. I had loved the fashion since the early 2000s but for whatever reason didn't get into it until... maybe 2005? anyway, my first lolita was bodyline and it was truly horrible. the lace was gross and itchy and I just felt horribly disillusioned with it. Lolita, to me, was supposed to feel opulent and exquisite, and this felt like some trashy costume... not what I wanted at all. It wasn't until I got a brand piece that I actually fell in love with wearing lolita myself. before it was more like something I admired that was better in theory than reality.

>>9715135
Maybe it's just me, but this is the time of year I WANT to buy 2nd hand items. I've been so bored lately and winter has me down, and then the loneliness of the holidays just makes me want to treat myself to cute new [to me] things.

>>9715135
People'll be buying presents

How do you know if someone replied to your comment on lacemarket?

>>9714656
She also has been known to throw shitfits about people "stealing" her idea for bath bombs. She decided she was the only person who could have thought of a Pokemon egg bath bomb.

>>9713160
you're wrong tho

>>9714917
They just did a sale with a bunch of dresses for 5000-8000 yen, it's hard for Western sellers to top that, especially since you can get similar things on Taobao.

>>9715135
December is a fairly good time to sell IMO as all the teens get their Christmas money and go off to buy their first piece, and some people want stuff as presents. Lots of students and retail workers working extra shifts or hired as temporary workers over the holiday season as well, so they have more money to spend. True, most working adults are broke after Christmas (or prioritising the January sales) but there are still some that spent less than expected and have money to spare, so it's not too bad.

January is an awful time to sell though. Pretty much everyone is spent up by then, and a lot of people make a ton of sales posts after making their wardrobe post so the market gets flooded with second-hand stuff and is slow for months. Usually doesn't pick up again until spring when people start looking for warm-weather stuff and aren't worrying about the cost of the heating bill each month.

>>9715135
I both buy more at Christmas because it's cold and I'm bored, and I used to ask for secondhand brand as Christmas gifts. No one ever bothered to make a LM account but one of my relatives actually did get me a legit Baby dress from eBay.

On another note, how often do you guys buy new releases? Don't answer if you don't, no one cares that you're poor. I finally have disposable income enough that I can buy as often as I'd like and still save for retirement, but there haven't been a lot of releases I liked this year, I only got two dresses and they were both AATP. Normally I buy AP and Meta, but they released literally nothing I liked this year

>>9715240
Maybe once or twice a season I reserve a main piece from baby/aatp but I usually tend to wait for end of season sales to buy stuff from other brands. AP has been hit or miss for me this season. there are a few designs I like but they aren’t selling that well so I figure to just wait until the winter sales and get them for cheaper. Lately there’s been nothing from AP that I want enough to have it straight on release day. Same with moitie, there’s stuff I want but nothing has really stuck out to me that I want as soon as it comes out, besides maybe the phone cases.

>>9715240
>how often do you guys buy new releases
Not counting Taobao releases since they're cheaper anyway, maybe two or three times a year. I've only bought once from Baby, once from AatP and three times from AP in the past two years. There were three other releases I wanted to buy but missed out on.

>>9715257
That makes me feel better, I want to support the brands since I love them and want to keep lolita alive, but this year has been so meh- usually if I like the print, I hate the cut and vice versa. Hopefully next year brings new cuts and prints. Moitie should be promising, hopefully they don't do a bunch of rereleases of unpopular prints like in that poll recently

>>9715240
>how often do you guys buy new releases
Maybe two or three times a year. In the past two years I've bought new brand dresses once from Baby, once from AatP, and three times from AP. I also bought full-price dresses from Atelier Pierrot and Antique Beast but I wouldn't really classify it as a "new release" since they re-release so often and hold stock for so long... There were also three other releases I wanted that sold out while I was dithering or were just bloodbaths (Baby/Moitie/AP) that I'd pick up second-hand if I saw them at retail.

>>9715240
A couple times a year, maybe? I've bought more brand blouses and accessories this year than actual prints though. Everything's been pretty underwhelming. Maybe that'll change next year what with Moitie coming back from the dead.

Anyway, what to do about unresponsive sellers on LM? I got the automatic email to leave feedback on Friday, but figured I'd wait the weekend to see if it arrived. No package, so I messaged the seller on Monday asking for any details (she never sent a tracking number after payment, but I've been super guilty of taking days to unearth the receipt from my bag so I didn't really think much of it). It's still on unread and it's been nearly three weeks since I bought it. I'm just nervous. I don't want to file a claim, I'd rather she just tell me if she got too busy to ship it!

>>9715266
I should buy from AtPi and more of the smaller brands like that, I love their stuff but it never gets discussed and so I rarely think to even look for it. I'm glad that WW Fleur carries Sheglit, that makes it so easy to remember to check

>>9715240
>On another note, how often do you guys buy new releases?
You made me curious, Anon, so I had to look. I only counted main pieces I bought on release day:
2017 - AP: 4, BTSSB: 1, Meta: 1, Miho Matsuda: 1
2016 - AP: 7, BTSSB: 1, Meta: 1, Atelier Boz: 1
2015 - AP: 5, BTSSB: 1

I only started buying new releases in 2015 as opposed to just second hand. I only buy things I like that match my wardrobe. I agree this year's releases were pretty meh. I hope that they'll be better next year, but I don't have much hope based on the previews. I might start going deeper in the non-print dresses since AP hasn't been doing too poorly there.

>>9715305
Absolutely, I've been eyeing up things from h.NAOTO and Chantilly too and Excentrique released pic related (centre) last year and I really regret not buying it. Bought a re-release from IW too that I forgot to mention.

I had a shower thought. Would a lolita that's so insane she would actually hurt someone or even murder over brand exist?
And if so, would that make her a brandere?
It's 5am and I shouldnt shitpost so late

>>9715240
Around three times a year, mostly solids. But I don't have a lot of disposable income

>>9715366
Excentrique isn't easy to find secondhand if you're looking for something specific but they sometimes do re-releases

Here's a link to join the /cgl/ Discord. https://discord.gg/hkFB5vy

>>9715161
you'll get an email.

>>9714917
The stuff you're seeing for cheap is very likely from lucky packs/ didn't sell well initially/ design is 'too simple'/ probably a tube torso
It's not that they aren't great, but with how much people bitch about IW's tube dresses, it makes them all seem less worth 'investing' in

>>9715373
There was a news story about a Japanese gothic lolita(?) who murdered her dad back in 2006 iirc, but it wasn't anything related to brand and her fashion choices were emphasized for shock value more than anything.
Basically, some people are totally off their rockers regardless of what they're wearing so theoretically it's possible, but I hope it doesn't happen if only for the sake of whatever is left of my hope in humanity. I did laugh at "brandere" though.

>>9715414
is this the vetting one?

>>9715429
can you help me find a link to an article about that? thats crazy

What are good lolita stocking stuffers (by which I mean cheap stuff that's like 5 bucks or so) that I can get within the US? I'm looking to get small Christmas presents for my comm members but I don't think orders from Aliexpress would get here on time anymore. Options for each of the three substyles and options that any lolita would probably like are welcome.

>>9715564
Sweet: Tiny/small bow hair clips and hairpins, bought or handmade; pearl or other beaded bracelets
Classic: Bows in muted/earthy colors, cameo accessories
Gothic: Nothing because they are empty inside, black rose clips
For all: small cabochons/jewelry for nails/general decorations, face masks, hand creams.

>>9714926
Newbies are more likely to be drawn into sweet or ott gothic due to the flashyness of the styles, so IW is less appealing to most newbies. Our IW is safe because newbies will mostly find it boring.

>>9715564
Buy some fake flowers from the crafts store and make some hair clips. You can do the same with lace or velvet ribbon.

>>9715522
Nope, this is the /fa/ x /cgl/ one.

>>9715564
fancy tea sachets and teaspoons!

>>9715564
Go to goodwill (or a garage sale or resale shop) and pick up some antique/adorable teacups/saucers. Then, if you want to go absolutely wild, you could put a little hair clip or something inside of it to give like a gift basket, or a bag of tea they’d like, or a piece of candy~.

>>9715523
http://egl.livejournal.com/482795.html

>>9715337
I am surprised you liked that many of this year's AP releases! Their solids are cute though, that's a good point. You can never have too many solid dresses, they're so versatile

>>9710415
They have a website so it would appear so

>>9715373
>brandere

Can...can I make a pin of that?

>>9715688
This year it was Ribbon Berry Bunny, Romantic Cat, Holiday Collection and Jewelry Snow. I'm still considering getting Lovely Snow Fantasy, but the cuts are pretty awful.

What do you normally like that AP releases? I tend to prefer the cottons over polyester and the just waist cuts.

>>9715724
My style is all over the place, I bought Astro Regimen, British Bear, Baked Sweets Parade, along with older sweet prints (unfortunately all these were secondhand though) Sugary Carnival, Milky Planet, Decoration Dream, Cosmic, Dreamy Planetarium, and Chess Chocolate. The closest thing this year for me was that Kronos print but the cut was slightly off, neither a true high waist nor a just waist. I am thinking of selling my Astro Regimen special set which appears to be the same cut because it's horribly unflattering on my height

>>9715659
If you do this please make sure it’s actually good tea. I’ve stopped mentioning I like tea on secret santa’s/gift swaps because that always results in someone giving me a few sachets of basic grocery store brand tea in gimmick flavours. They probably mean well but, ew.

>>9715745
Those are all really cute though. Here's to hoping AP has more cuts this year like they used to. For some reason I doubt it though. I always enjoy seeing the variation in the older dresses and the blazers and skirts.

>>9715429
oh wow that's crazy. I also hope it doesn't happen.
I do wonder if there ever was a physical fight in the lolita community over brand (or something else)

>>9715712
Do it lmao

>>9715523
I found a vid in japanese about it, apparently she guillotined her father. wew.

>>9715846
fuck,didn't mean to writte guillotined. But she cut his neck with an axe
https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2141811071540532201

Does anyone have an invite code for the Lolita Fashion discord (the vetting one) that was going around a while back? I think I got kicked for being inactive for too long and I want to reapply

>>9715846
I remember a story about a girl throwing her shoe at AP shop window because she didn’t get a dress, not sure if it’s true though

>>9716107
hahahahahahaah

Guys, what search terms do you use on mercari for non-mainpiece items? When i search メタモフォーゼ ソックス or btssb ソックス the results are a pile of normie shit, what am i doing wrong

>>9716209
Use google translate on the page. They have search options for that you silly goose

>>9716209
Use the categories to specify after searching the brand. Are you using the app?

>Been eyeing Dreamy Parfait for ages
>It's cute but not willing to pay full price for it
>It's been on sale on AP USA for months
>Checked the site last week and it was still in the 50% off section
>Finally decide to buy it as a Christmas gift for myself
>Go to site today
>All of the sale sections are gone and the dress is back up to full price

Why did I wait....

I finally got my first overdress today, it's so beautiful and perfect for the weather where I am. It's brand, though, and I want to save it for a special occasion. I'd like to get some more of them for daily wear, but I'm having a hard time finding taobao ones beyond surface spell. Does anyone have any to recommend? Lace, chiffon... Any material or colour is interesting to me.

>>9716209
I think japanese lolitas call btssb Baby or the full name. Also, aatp sometimes is a/p.
I always type the brand name in roman letters and then the japanese letters for the clothing item.

Does anyone else have issues when they visit LJ? My page keeps getting hijacked by malware bullshit. With wardrobe season coming this isn't cool.

>>9716398
I don't have any issues with it

>>9716396
I've found a VM over-dress for 30 usd on yahoo auctions before

If I'd found out about this release earlier, I might have actually bought it. But since I'm going to miss the tote bag, I guess not.

If you purchase the dress by today, you get a matching tote bag.

>>9716398
Sounds like your computer has a virus that changes the content of pages, or your LJ was hacked.

>>9716396
Why would you want a poor quality one for daily wear? That just means it will wear out even faster.

I have a fanplusfriend coat that I'd like to sell on LM, the entire flanell lining is covered in piling though, does it count as light damage since it's only the lining or major damage since it's the entirety of the lining?

>>9716613
I would say major and write exactly what is wrong in the description. It's better to over estimate the damage in my opinion. That way the buyer knows what to expect and if they expect the worst, but its better in person, they end up happy and will leave a nicer review.

How long does it take for innocent world to respond to sale emails? It's been a week

>>9716651
It can take up to two weeks, sometimes three. The latest sale was very popular, I imagine it'll take them a while to sort through all the orders. Also, there's a chance they'll email you much later after your package was already shipped, or only email you if what you ordered is sold out. Their communication has been a bit flimsy this year in my experience. I hope you get everything though!

How wide are the sleeves on Moitie pieces (especially long sleeved OPs) usually? I'm pretty tall and skinny and have never had problems with sleeve width on brand pieces, but I'm afraid that since Moitie is generally smaller my arms might be too big.
Have any of you noticed a considerable difference compared to other brands?
Thank you for any help!

>>9716231
Check out Japanese second hand sites. It's ridiculously cheap there.

I've been eyeing Fancy Whip this year myself, hoping to not miss the sale on it. IT's also pretty cheap on Japanese sites and still new condition.

>>9716582
That's actually a good point. Hmm. Maybe I should rethink my strategy here.

Anyone have any brands to recommend for overdresses? Mine is VM but I'd like to try some others if possible.

>>9716783
Baby had one up for reservation but it's out of stock, not sure if they could do that thing where they check shops for it for you since it doesn't say totally sold out:
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b41op351/

Also there are two different ones on VM's site, you could try the other style:
http://v-maiden.ya.shopserve.jp/SHOP/172MOP19.html
http://v-maiden.ya.shopserve.jp/SHOP/172MJK02.html

I’m thinking about buying a Dreamholic Wig. Are they any good? The Storenvy site is okay to order through, right?

>>9716961
They take like 3 weeks to ship, and ship e packet instead of ems despite saying they ship ems... my wigs are currently on their way to me.

>>9716961
They're good, but unless you make the price of shipping stretch you might not think it's worth it.
I've had mine a few months, still soft but it's shiney, and the color and style wasn't quite the same as the stock images. Not my favorite, but it's cute and light without dramatically bad quality or anything.

>>9716961
I got one recently and it was extremely frizzy and unkempt looking. The fibers themselves aren't bad or anything, but the styling was pretty bad. Also like other anons said, the shipping takes a while. I don't think I'd buy from them again.

How easy is it to find secondhand EE stuff?

I got their LP last year and still haven't worn most of it, but I like the fabric they use (fake shantung, I think). I was going to skip this year's, but the preview image they put up looks really good.

So now I'm wondering if I should just snag that set while I can, or if I should wait for the secondhand market. Do people even sell their EE stuff? Seems a bit rare, but then again I haven't looked very hard.

Would anyone know if IW notifies you by email when they send out reservation products? I reserved rabbit letter months ago, and it was slated for a late December delivery.

Crap, I saw this on LM earlier and then got distracted and it sold before I could grab it. Does anyone know what skirt this is? Maybe a lucky pack skirt? (it's metamorphose and I checked lolibrary to no avail. I don't even know why I want it, I just have a weakness for meta skirts and the colors red and... cream? I can't really tell)

>>9717079
Looks like red and pink to me. Meta's released quite a few simple skirts like this in the past but the ribbons they use usually match the fabric, so this is odd. Maybe it was modified?

>>9717081
I don't know. The seller didn't say anything about modifications at all. I figured it was a bit odd as well, which is another reason I really wanted it. Just from the images the seller posted and the way the ribbons are tied, I'd say they look to be original to meta... at least they look similarly tied to all the bows on my old school meta stuff.

>>9717058
I think they do, as they will also send you a tracking number. Sometimes these mails are really delayed, though, especially during sales.

To hijack your question: will there be another round of rabbit letter? I honestly don’t understand their newsletter when it comes to this. They are talking about a new wave of reservations for gold members and regular customers, I think..? I’m one of the anons who filled out the questionnaire, replied to the mail within two hours and didn’t get a thing. I just want to know if there’s any chance I’m on some kind of list for a next rerelease or not and if there will be another one. I feel like I’m missing some information that’s in their mails...

>>9717086
Maybe message the seller and ask? Just say you noticed it after it had sold and want to track another one down, I'm sure they wouldn't mind.

>>9717086
Oh, this closeup clears things up: It's not pink, it's got red polkadots on it so the ribbons aren't totally out of place, at least based on Meta's design logic.
There's an entry for a red/off white polkadot skirt from 2003 on lolibrary but without any pics or details: https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-polka-dot-circle-skirt Judging by that lace, I'd wager a guess that it could be this one.

>>9717086
I think meta made that skirt in a million different fabrics, I have the exact same cut in red plaid.

>>9717090
Thanks, I was thinking the same.

>>9717091
The lace does match a 2003 JSK I have from meta as well. Thanks anon.

>>9717095
I have seen quite a few meta skirts with this design, for sure. Just nothing with polkadots like this.

How much poof can emily temple cute dresses generally hold?

>>9717098
Depends on the dress. On average, not very much - I'd say a daily A-line at best. If you look through CC they sometimes have examples where they've overstuffed the dress with a larger bell shaped petti.

>>9717098
One or two normal petticoats

>>9716783
Physical Drop but they're hard to find secondhand.

>>9716961
theyre not great. all of mine look like shit, still better than lockshop though

>>9713022
They're all fine and completely up to the poster how much to post, in my opinion.

If it gets too much, perhaps just 5-6 of your favourite/ most commonly worn blouses, accessories, tights/socks and shoes? I do want to see how items are coorded and have an understanding of the poster's style.

I wish people would give a brief overview of their style. I'm not into Sweet and digging through piles of Sweet clothes is not my idea of fun. Also wish more people would include their shoes.

>>9716961
Save yourself a big chunk of cash and order from their Taobao?

>>9716961
I've had really good experiences with the wigs themselves and aside from the super long one, all of them have been able to fool people (including my own mother) into thinking it's my real hair. I don't recommend their Storenvy, though. Ordering through their Taobao store has always been both faster and cheaper for me.

>>9717199
I feel like the preview image is good for that, a lot of people put a snap of their favorite dress, or one of their wardrobe all hung up. I use that to gloss over the sweet wardrobes.

Seconding shoes, I'm in dire need of inspiration for goth shoes.

What are some good moitiefags to follow? Two of my favorite ones left lolita

>>9716961
I have the Boleyn girl one and it's quite nice. There's only a little shine to it but it doesn't look cheap or low quality. It's also one of the longer ones and hasn't really tangled too much but when it did tangle it wasn't ruined when I detangled it. My only problem with it is that the bangs are that wispy, sparse kind of style and my preference for bangs is blunt and kind of thick but other than that I love it.
I would never order from the Storenvy again though. They're not a scammer, you'll get your product but it takes forever. Mine took a little over a month to arrive. I think next time I'll order from their taobao.

>>9717318
I'm not sure how strict your definition of a 'moitiefag' is, but here are some people I follow on IG who wear a lot of (but not exclusively) moitie:

artemis_argyi
sorgevinter
rosenocturnalia
hide_vi
naawie42
tamielove

>>9716961
I liked the wig I bought from Dreamholic last year, but after seeing their stuff at a con I can say the quality of the fibres they use varies a lot between the different designs and I'd be nervous about ordering without seeing them in person. Some styles were really shiny and the fibres didn't feel great, other styles were extremely soft and realistic and looked just like real hair. Hard to tell which is which IRL when their photos are so edited...I'd say that all of them were better than what I've had from eBay, Bodyline, etc. but some were worse than the good Lockshop ones I have.

>>9717318
Tamielove started posting lolita again!

>>9716406
if you were smart, you would get twitter notifications for JetJ's acct: http://twitter.com/J_et_J

Anyone have an idea on what the max bust is for either cut of little bear's cafe? Its really cheap on CC right now and I wouldn't mind adding such a cute piece to my wardrobe!

>>9717634

nayrt, but is there any way to follow a twitter account without needing to open up twitter to check it?

I'm only waiting for that one equine dress they previewed like a year ago and still haven't released.

>>9714917
Not sure but I aint complaining. IW doesn't seem to ever have much resale value, much like MILK or ETC probably because its simplicity and lower-profile releases, bar a few (rabbit letter, etc.). IW dresses also retail cheaper than other brands, a new dress is usually around the 23k yen mark whereas AP and BABY are 27k plus

>>9717677
No. Twitter is more popular with Japanese than other sns like Facebook so just make an account.

secretsss ?

>>9717366
>>9717318
seconding artemis_argyi and I also like abuelolita though she posts a lot of random stuff asides from just coords

Why is AP USA website such shit?

Not sure where to ask so I'll just try asking here
How do you deal with finding blouses in more unusual colors?
Specifically more muted colors, like pinks.
I feel like it's really rare to find, and I'm not sure if I should try to reconsider what colors to use (I'm trying to build up my wardrobe so I'm planning a bit in advance)

>>9718108
Taobao or non-Lolita-specific shit desu. Most cute blouses I’ve seen in colors other than the standard palette are offbrand.

>>9718108
Like this? https://maidenclothing.net/user_data/gs_product_detail.php?id=154070870001

>>9718108
For classic dusty pink, brown, navy and wine I like IW and for sweet pink, sax or even mint or yellow there’s AP. AP sometimes does navy and wine, too. You can also try Taobao/offbrand but I don’t trust non-Japanese brands to match their lace properly, so in those cases I’d look for ruffle detailing or purposefully contrasting lace instead.

>>9718108
Oh also you can commission chiffon blouses in a huge array of colours from indie brands like Lady Sloth.

this is adorable

>>9718109
I checked taobao a bit earlier today, but I didn't really find that much other than brown red navy and the regular black, white and ivory
I might check some offbrand stuff though, thanks for the tip!
>>9718111
Not really, this looks like a more common pink
Thanks anyways though!
>>9718119
Yeah, dusty pink is one of the colors I'm looking for. I prefer to buy second-hand, because of the price, how often do those pop up on the second-hand market?
I've found some blouses from VM, but I'll look through IW as well, thank you
>>9718123
Would prefer to avoid that because I'm guessing that would be pretty pricey, haha. But its good to know that it's an option, in case I can't find anything else

>>9718196
Yolanda have some at the moment:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=44738341250
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=44697438064

>>9718137
It looks like AatP have completely given up trying to be gothic in any way based on this.

>>9718196
Emily Temple Cute and Axes Femme have also done dusty pink blouses if you're going to look secondhand

>>9718235
Where they ever trying to be exclusively gothic? They started out with Alice in Wonderland print

>>9718235
It's only a single collab. Have you even seen the rest of their stuff recently?

>>9718261
Omg I just looked and this is gorgeous

>>9717794

I already have an account, which I never check. Much like my FB which I made to join my local comm, which I also never check.

Was kinda hoping there's an RSS feed somewhere, which I use an RSS reader for and actually do check pretty regularly. Guess not, huh.

Thanks for the answer though. Always nice to have it confirmed and know I wasn't technologicaly stunted for not being able to find it.

>>9718223
Wow, thank you so much anon! I think this will work really great with the dress I have in mind too!
>>9718256
Actually had completely forgotten about Emily Temple Cute, thank you!

>>9718258
No, they were trying to do a "darker sweet" and ouji thing. I did not like them at all when they first came out but over the years they have produced some beautiful things

>>9718433
If you're using twitter on your phone, you can activate push notifications for specific accounts you've added to your favorites.

>>9718433
>I already have an account, which I never check. Much like my FB which I made to join my local comm, which I also never check.
Then what do you expect? If you never check their updates, you'll never hear about new releases. You can't expect someone to hand deliver the ones you like.

>>9718592

Oooh. I did not know this. Thanks anon.

>>9718659

>Hoping for an RSS feed, nice to have it confirmed they don't have one

I'm not the only one not reading, lol.

there's someone selling Melty Ribbon Chocolate in my preferred colorway on LM, but i've noticed NO ONE had bid on it twice. I didn't place bids because I would forget to, but this is starting to raise suspicions for me. I've seen auctions go stupidly high for this dress, so am I missing something?

>>9719624
If it's the low waist cut it looks like a sack. The other listings look like the sellers don't have much feedback so I guess a bit of distrust (?)