/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Just got around to finishing all the Christmas cards for my penpals, and I didn't want to write while I was coughing up a lung. I'll hopefully have these sent out tomorrow, and most will be received before 12th Night and the end of Christmas.

Pardon any stray cat hair... Marlowe likes to "help".

>>9733827
I love your handwriting

>>9733827
I hope your actual letters are more verbose than that. You're a decent writer from what I've read. And more cat pics please.

I got a glass teapot and tealight for christmas, so now I can enjoy mys tea as fancy as I dress!

>>9733870
My handwriting is terrible chicken scratch compaired to every penpal on my list.

>>9733875
Of course. Nor do I address those I'm writing letters to as "Dear /cgl/" or sign as "Gropey". Have some quality floof.

>>9733881
Like a tea bloom tea pot? Pics?

>>9733827
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, too, Gropey! Your cat is very cute.

Is anyone planning a craft- or sew-along for 2018?
I want to start blogging again to document some of my creative projects next year, and I want to find more lolita bloggers who make things.

>>9734062
>>9734110
So are cats the most lifestyle pet: yes or YES?

>>9734112
I love cats, but I'm a sucker for pomeranians, if I'm honest.

>>9734119
Sorry anon, dogs are not kawaii.

>>9734110
I am! I’m still setting up my blog, though. Ideally I’d want to film the process but I think I’ll start with just pictures. I promised myself not to buy any more fabric in the first six months of 2018 until I’ve finished and documented at least three destashing projects.

>>9734112
>>9734193
I think dogs can be kawaii, but only cats come close to the aloof, self-centred vanitas of lolita.

>>9734112
YES

>>9734119
>>9734193
>>9734317
Pic related

>>9734193
>tfw pastel vomit sweet with a black pitbull
she's adorable and has harnesses that match my coords, plus she can defend me. doggos are kawaii af

>>9733827
How does one get on this wonderous penpal list? What do you write about?

>>9734334
Pictures are required!

>>9734342
A few of us put out emails a while back, and swapped addresses.

The actual content of the letters varies, as at least for now, I have only made one exchange (IE, we each sent each and received one letter each) from the half dozen people on my list. Most of them so far is just pleasantries and sundry info about ourselves. I write with one lady who does historic recreation and historic influenced elegant lolita, as an "in the moment in character" dialogue of ourselves as if in the 18thC. She's using it for a creative writing class. Another gentleman is asking general advice on being agreeable to women, while being potato shaped (a skill I am well versed in). Requirements are only that it be hand written, and that you have fun with it.

>>9734574
> I write with one lady who does historic recreation and historic influenced elegant lolita, as an "in the moment in character" dialogue of ourselves as if in the 18thC
I didn't know I wanted this in my life. Who's your character?

>>9734596
We are our own characters. I am me, as I am at work: A garrison sergeant and surgeons mate in the garrison regiment of Williamsburg (Nominally either 80th Royal Edinburgh or 2nd Va depending on which coat I am wearing).

She lives in Massachusetts, and works at a boutique soap and candle shop, so thats who she is, only in the 18thC. Our dialogue is that of familiar acquaintances, in the beginnings of the rebellion. We're both loyalists.

>>9734614
Can I recommend the Abbe de Choisy and Madame Sevigne to you. While regrettably dead, they left behind some wonderful writing.

>>9734620
>Abbe de Choisy and Madame Sevigne
I have a copy of the Transvestite Memoirs already. A great read.

>>9734614
Please tell me you read Jane Austin.

>>9734626
I can recommend his travels to Siam too. I actually really enjoyed reading the lists of everything they brought with them.

>>9734119
Good taste anon, poms are the best

>>9734112
I wouldn't say it's just cats, but sometimes specific breeds like ragdolls, pic related. Hasn't there been more than one ragdoll cat print, from JetJ as well?

For dogs, poodles for sure. I think corgi's need to make an appearance in lolita prints at some point. What's more lolita than the queen's dog of choice?

Also, what other specific breeds do you think are most lifestyle, both for cats and dogs? I'm trying to kind of make a list of them. I think it's just interesting what lolita brands determine as "lolita breeds".

>>9735767
Borzoi, without a doubt.

>>9735767
p o m e r a n i a n s
Queen Victoria's dog of choice, even if they've been bred down size-wise
In general though, I think smaller fluffier breeds for both dogs and cats are pretty lifestyle.

>>9735777
>>9735843
Disgusting. Your dogs will never be kawaii with their horse snouts.

>>9735902
>horse snout
>dog known for being bred for teddy bear face
>calling a glorified ball of fur with stump legs and a :3 face not kawaii
blasphemy

>>9735957
That's one buff looking dog.

>>9735767
Beagles and Cocker Spaniels are obvious contenders. IW has released a Cocker Spaniel print

Has anyone worn lolita for so long or so frequently that they've forgotten how to look decent in normie clothing? I know this might sound silly but I just feel and look like a frumpy mess in anything that's not lolita

>>9734110
I am

Hey, folks, I'm recently come across some macaron assortments in a few grocery stores in my area. iirc, the brand I see is called Looka, and I've seen them in the frozen dessert aisle at my local Walmart (for about $6), Kroger's & Jewel Osco (about $8-9). I believe Costco have had these for some time (I don't shop there myself)

Kinda bummed that Aldi's no longer sells macarons. They were so affordable.

Obviously, not everyone lives near these groceries, but have anyone seen/tried macarons being sold in bulk at their local grocery?

Also, what did you bake for the holidays?

>>9736103
Kinda? I try to at least wear things that fit. It's all T-shirts and pants (mix of jeans and chino type/legging pants). Pretty dull.

For me, it's more so that I've invested in lolita clothes so much that my normie clothes have taken a backseat. It doesn't really help that normie women's clothing is cheaply made and meant to be on-trend, so it's hard to stock pile on decent quality basics. If I had the means, I would love to have a street goth type of wardrobe for every day wear, mixed in some Kate Spade pieces to wear for work/dates.

>>9736157
I havent tried this brand, but my favorite macarons are from Trader Joes. A whole tray is like $4 -- and then you can get some other tea goodies too.

>>9735902
Heresy. If this isn't pure lolita dog, I don't know what is.

>>9735902
>being this much of a pleb
Not everyone wants to be kawaii uguu, anon. Stick to your AP and teacup chihuahuas, these dogs are more lolita than you'll ever be.

>>9735777
>>9736330
These are really creepy imo

>>9736103
A little. With the exception of my hiking boots, all my shoes were bought to go with lolita. It feels weird to wear dainty heels or Mary Jane platforms with jeans so unless I’m going somewhere boots are okay, I usually end up wearing a skirt or dress and tights. And most of my skirts/dresses are pretty girly, even the ones I bought at normal stores, so this all adds up to me having a difficult time looking ‘professional’. Luckily no one has cared so far but if I ever get a job where this is important, I’m going to have to go shopping for an entirely new wardrobe.

>>9736330
>>9736339
Like I said, dogs are not kawaii. They are disgusting creatures. I would never own such a filthy animal.

>>9736464
Obvious b8

>>9736330
desu I don't think they work in a sweet Lolita context but they make me think of deer, nobility, hunting scenes, tapestries. definitely classical

>>9735767
Ngl i'd kill for a basset hound print.
They are kawaii and regal as fuck at the same time.

>>9734666
Of course I have, Satan. Won't lie, I am a pleb who prefers the various film versions.

>>9735661
On the list!

>>9735719
Yipping dustmops. All of them. I prefer actual dogs.

>>9735767
What about my Maine Coons?

>>9735777
I feel bad for how deformed they are now, with the heavily downward snout getting worse and worse lately because of vanity breeding.

>>9736103
I wear breeches and stockings 5-6 days a week on average. Modern trousers are suffering and feel unnatural.

>>9736157
> what did you bake for the holidays
Well, I assisted my mom for Festa dei sette pesci....

*Ricotta pie (essentially Italian citrus cheesecake)
*marzipan
*Cannoli
*Stroufolli
*Chocolate chip cookies
*Enough bread to keep Marie Antoinette's head on her shoulders

>>9736330
Ok, thats pretty adorable.

>>9736503
>dat file name
bark-humbug!

>>9736712
>not wanting a yipping dustmop
bad taste

>>9736738
My cat would destroy it. My snake could literally eat it.

I tried embroidery for the first time yesterday. It was really fun, but damn, my piece is ugly! I hope I can improve quickly.

>>9736712
>I wear breeches and stockings 5-6 days a week on average.
>*Ricotta pie (essentially Italian citrus cheesecake)
>*marzipan
>*Cannoli
>*Stroufolli
>*Chocolate chip cookies
>*Enough bread to keep Marie Antoinette's head on her shoulders

So you're single again? Are you taking applications?

>>9734119
Here, I am glad
>>9735719
>>9735843
>>9735957
>>9736738
have good taste. I'm an equal opportunity animal lover, but poms are so great. My old dog was part pom, and I miss her dearly.

>>9736157
I baked an assortment of cookies and brownie bites and made truffles, caramels, cashew brittle, and rock candy. I wanted to bake a yule log but didn't get around to it.
I'm already thinking about Valentine's Day...

>>9736755
I found that I improved very quickly by doing at least a little work every day.

>>9737100
I am, but you don't want any of this. I am a depressing 18thC potato.

>>9737255
There are plenty of seagulls with low standards who want to mash your well dressed potato.

>>9737100
Don't be tempted by fancy baked goods! You'll never fit in brand again.

Went to comiket in lolita and loved the second day, the first and third not so much. There were heaps if girls in lolita as well as cosplay. Going to watch the Poe no ichizoku Takarazuka revue in a few days, with friends and also in lolita. Discovered I can walk more than ten miles in Lolita.

Taking up sewing again to make an as authentic as possible 18 century style cosplay for fuyu comi 2018 (not going in summer, if heath stroke doesn't kill me, the smell of unwashed male otaku will).

>>9738126
This is one reason I'm glad I have to stick to a no sugar/low carb diet. I can't eat any macros, pastries, cookies, cakes and other kawaii stuff, but at least I can have tea and coffee, and don't have to worry about growing out of my wardrobe.

>>9738400
>going to cons in lolita is lifestyle now
The whole point of it is to bring lolita and its aspects into your everyday life. Wearing at a convention is nothing special.

>>9738405
I know, but it's my first year in the fashion and I wasn't sure it would be a good idea when I was going to be on my feet all day. But it was.

I've considered starting a "Lady's Society" which would be not far from lifestyle lolita interests. I'm planning on attending a full finishing school in Switzerland in the next few years to make sure to qualify me.

It would sort of be the female equivalent of old-school Gentleman's Clubs and would focus on various aspects of etiquette and social graces and talents with classes and events. How do you girls find the idea?

>>9738789
kind of a drag, but i'm someone who was made to go to a private school/etiquette school so i don't see why it would be novel or fun for anybody. infatuation with the idea of etiquette and class really indicates one's birth...

>>9738812
>really indicates one's birth..
Bit snobbish of you honestly. I don't see how some etiquette or artistic classes would be a bad thing, especially to the kind of people in threads like this.

>>9738814
am i wrong though? only people who aren't subjected to it are obsessed with the idea of being and acting their idea of "upper class."

>>9738816
So manners and social interests are only acceptable for people like yourself born into it (who then reject it)? I don't recall anyone saying the word "upper class" except you. Curious as to the point of you even being in this thread if you find lolita lifestyles to be beneath contempt. God forbid anyone try to improve their standing in polite company.

>>9738812
Anything forced on a person is more likely to seem like a drag, as opposed to studying it because it genuinely interests you. This is not a hard concept anon.

>>9738025
I am just stating a fact. Well dressed or not, I am a depressing potato.

>>9738126
Hush you.

>>9738400
>This is one reason I'm glad I have to stick to a no sugar/low carb diet.
Why do you hate happiness?

>>9738814
>>9738818
I believe what >>9738812 is saying is that breeding and etiquette does not automatically equate to being classy. Just because they know which spoon for which size caviar lump, doesn't mean that they are not wastes of oxygen. .


>>9738812
>>9738819
I can agree. My dad went mustang in the Navy, and worked his way up from a sailor to a fully commissioned officer. This meant that my brother and I when I was about 10 had to take courses on etiquette, basic ballroom dance etc. Hated every minute of it. Years later, getting interest in historic recreation and formal events, I am thankful for them, and loved learning new things on the subject.

>>9737100
If the Nekocon tea party happens this year, you're required by law to bring home made treats.

>>9738917
That doesn't sound like what they're saying at all ; it sounds like they're being snide and implying that anon's interest in etiquette shows that they're "low class".

>>9738816
Yes, you're wrong. Wanting to learn etiquette is not the same with being ~infatuated~ with it; stop trying to stoke your own ego.

>>9739202
Rereading it, I can see how Gropalope could get that the anon just poorly worded what they were saying. He does have a habit of trying to see the best in people. The post in >>9738816
confirms that anon is being a snobby cunt.

>>9738917
I like you Gropey but no, what that anon was saying is that only lower class people romanticise (or are “obsessed with”) etiquette because upper class people have it forced upon them and therefore grow to dislike it.

Wtf is "lifestyle lolita"? isn't that just living? so dumb

>>9739343
1/10 try harder

>>9739343
this is the only good post you've made since coming here

>>9738789
That sounds lovely. Almost Princess Skye esque. Would it be lolita based or just focus on etiquette and such?

>>9739202
>>9739204
>>9739209
>>9739211
i love the smell of samefag in the morning

>>9739440
Nice try sweetie, being a snob isn't kawaii.

>>9739518
>thinking this proves anything
a samefag and a retard

>>9739533
>thinking people care about this as much as you
being a snob and obnoxious isn’t kawaii

>>9739576
neither is being low class. :^)

>>9739533
>>9739440
It wasn't me, I only just got back to this thread. Its not hard to see why that attitude was a objectively shitty and snobby.
>>9739584
>implying being upper-middle class Catholic school drop-out makes you qualified for an opinion on the matter
>>9739429
>Would it be lolita based or just focus on etiquette and such?
Mostly the latter, but I feel like there is a lot of overlap. I.E. pretty much anything you can learn would apply to lolita lifestyle even if the reverse isn't true with wearing full coord. God knows there are plenty of venues to get to sort of thing, not that it would be disallowed unless we are in severe ita/trashy/unwashed territory.

Mostly it would be nice to focus on dining, social aspects, ect while providing a comfortable and attractive lounge, bar, and dining parlor open to members and invitees only and revocable on unsavory behavior. A country club for ladies interested in anachronisms of dress and manners without the "country" side.

>>9738816
Gulls here want to know etiquette because they want to include it into their Lolita lifestyle. We live in a society that’s becoming increasingly casual, so no matter what their upbringing they could still never have learned proper etiquette.

learning etiquette is for the aesthetic, not to be infatuated with rich people lmao.

>>9739630
oh crash course arts and crafts classes on calligraphy and letter-writing, knitting, decorating, sewing, hair styling, ballroom dance, flower arranging, ect. that would rotate on a regular basis depending on the professionals available.

Also considered offering member-only perks like event planning help, tailoring and salon services.

>>9739633
There's no point anon, they're too far up their own ass to listen to reason. Let them RP being a ~tru born high class lady uwu~ otherwise they'll call you a lowborn samefag.

>>9739440
>>9739533
>>9739584
I retract my statement. You're just a bitch.

Hopefully you're pretty enough that you'll marry some trust fund, closeted boy who spends all his time at the country club with with his "doubles partner" while you spiral into a self destructive habit of over priced Moscato and prescription pills, because your children identify more with the woman who you paid to raise them and address you by your first name.

On that, the thread should go back to talking about tea parties and cross stitch samplers.

Pic related. No plate reserved for rudeness.

>>9739648
It’s funny because they’ve already admitted they weren’t born into it. And we certainly can tell their family’s money didn’t come with class lmao.

>>9739634
Calligraphy is easy to learn! I got a little kit from Hobby Lobby (the ultimate crafting depot) and it came with a book with basic lettering. Then there’s a bunch of resources online, so if you want to do more advanced stuff you can usually find a guide. But yeah, if anyone wants to learn calligraphy but thinks it’s daunting, just get a small kit and you’ll be okay.

>>9736103
Absolutely. My "normie wear" is just jeans and a t-shirt usually because I pretty much have no idea how to dress otherwise.

>>9735767
Personally I think Persians are king when it comes to lolita cat breeds. Of course I might just be biased because I have a Himalayan. I also have an exotic shorthair, and he's super cute too, but something about the long fur makes them look more elegant, I think. Additionally, Siberians are gorgeous huge cats and they look so regal and elegant and they're gigantic goofs and love to play fetch and stuff; they're definitely the cat for dog people.

>>9736477
Yeah, I'll agree with that; dogs like that are definitely more classic lolita. I think some dogs work really well with gothic too, but obviously it's gonna be hard to beat out a just a standard black cat for that one.

>>9739630
>>9739634
That actually sounds really fun, and I wish you were in SoCal so I could join.

Also, how early do you all wake up in the morning? I just started a job that doesn't have any sort of uniform or dress code, so of course I was thinking of wearing lolita some days, but it unfortunately does mean waking up a bit earlier.

>>9736103
I haven't worn trousers (other than pajama bottoms) in probably 7 years.
>>9739694
>I wish you were in SoCal so I could join.
Well I hope to have online tutorials but I do want a physical place as well. It stinks I can't teleport everyone.

I am self-employed so I have weird hours, but when I can help it I like to wake up at 7 am. Its not too early but you feel like you have a proper full day.

>>9739691
>admitted they weren't born into it
where?

>>9739683
My goodness! Was that off the top of your head, or did you have that prearranged? Either way it is an impressive Darcy level burn.

>>9739700
Sorry, mixed up what I read with another anon’s post.

Still, I am right about them not having class, and I’m probably right about them not being born into it. Why would an actual upper-class person come to an anonymous image board to brag about growing up rich and put down people who want to learn manners?

>>9739683
I meant to reply to you in my last post that I love your sass and the image you posted. I have a question though, is it considered rude to reject alcohol being served, and just drink water? I’m not 21 anyway but I only like drinking water.

>>9739714
>is it considered rude to reject alcohol being served
Not him but you have to understand classical manners pertaining to individual preference is not like it is today. Individuality and personal taste was not considered as important until very recently in history and so the classical answer to your question is, short of medical necessity "yes, it is rude to refuse anything your host provides" whether you are vegan or a teetotaler.

But there is always another side to this issue, and that is that a proper host is aware of their guests preferences and if you were a known vegan teetotaler a proper host should never invite you to a dinner of mixed company, perhaps only a tea that is accommodating to you.

And yet another side of the coin is that sometimes people have no choice but to do the "rude" thing if its the lesser of two evils.

>>9739683
You paint a vivid image.

>>9739716
oh I should mentions there is an exception to this, a cheese platter that comes at the end of the large menu is considered option and not rude to decline, and you may also refuse seconds of ANYTHING you have already eaten or drinken. So if you have a considerate host they might instruct for you only to have a splash of alcohol tasted that you can then decline more of.

Also if you are under drinking age your host is obligated not to break the law, obviously.

>>9739698
7am's a good time, that's about when I get up too, but needing to leave the house at 8:30 now means I could probably use some extra time to get ready.

>>9739714
I've always wondered that too actually because I don't drink, and I always feel a little bad asking for something else.

>>9739683
What do you know about cross stitch?

>>9739704


>>9739714
I full agree with >>9739716/>>9739719. Modernly speaking, while the host should be aware and cater to their chosen guest's needs, there is not shame in politely declining based on religion, dietary needs or legality. If I was a guest at a dinner that was not aware, I would decline in being served a peanut gazpacho, for example, as I am allergic. Someone who is not able to drink for personal or religious reasons would have no need to explain themselves, and moreso, I do not know a single modern formal meal that does not have the option of a nonalcoholic beverage.

>>9739729
yeah I think its important to understand we can't escape from modern sensibilities. obviously you can decline whatever for any reason and "rudeness" has become completely subjective and unenforceable compared to the olden days of coded social conduct and consequences.

Nowadays there seems to be very little one CAN'T get away with socially.

>>9738789
I would love something like this. I don't prescribe "lolita" behavior and certainly do things that aren't very lady like, but I enjoy studying etiquette and would love a woman's social circle or club that isn't totally geriatric.

>>9739730
>>9739729
I mostly think it is important how you decline the offer/food. Along with most hosts, I am more than happy to come up with an alternative as long as you give me advance notice, and I really don't care if you don't drink or eat one or two things. If you are at a restaurant or catered event, just decline the food/drink politely and you should be fine.
With that said, I am definitely biased against very picky or "rude" eaters, and few things will make me instantly dislike a person more than an entitled and aggressive attitude about food. Like the vegan who moves to Japan and complains at every restaurant, outing, and event that they can't eat anything. Or the girl who waits until she's at my tea party to tell me she's gluten intolerant and then guilts me for not being "inclusive."
If you have dietary restrictions, please let your host know whenever applicable.

>>9739780
What you started is the slippery slope that necessitates the "rule" for ignoring your individual preferences for the sake of social cohesiveness and ease. Its hard to draw a line in the sand on how far you should expect others to accommodate you so in my opinion its better to just say "accept whatever you are offered if possible, and just accept doing something rude if you can't".

>>9739805
*stated not started. The rude behavior like complaining about veganism in Japan for example being a product of a spoiled individuality obsessed culture.

>>9739343
>comes to the lifestyle thread
>lol why would you lifestyle
>can’t even understand what “lifestyle” means
There’s a stupid questions thread for you. Go there.
>>9739683
That person RPing as someone upper class sure can’t type well. Really makes you think. I felt smug reading their posts.

ITT: poorfags LARPing and no actual lifestylers in sight

same as always.

>>9739816
What constitutes lifestyler discussion to you?

I'm not a lifestyler but I'm a lolita, and I guess this thread is nice but doesn't seem lolita related at all.

>>9739816
what does being poor have to do with lifestyle? nothing screams "vulgar" more than someone that equates material wealth to good breeding.

>>9739816
>>9739821
Can you guys either contribute or stop shitting up the thread? If the concept is so hard to grasp, ask in the stupid questions thread or lurk more.

>>9739828
how is my post any less relevant than the anon bitching about you all being weird poorfags?

>>9739827
good breeding goes hand in hand with material wealth. only poor people would dispute it.

>>9739728
Why is Gropey here at all? I understand his lifestyle and hobbies have a lot of similarities, but he is not lolita.

>>9739831
>I guess this thread is nice but doesn't seem lolita related at all.
The lifestyle concepts inspired by lolita fashion are nowhere near new, if you don't know this then you're either new yourself or just ignorant of your fashion's history.

>>9739836
Lady's and gentleman don't discuss or fuss over finances and wealth, its not proper. A person can live many types of respectable lives within modest means and more importantly behave with grace and dignity socially.

You don't need to see a bank-card to tell someone carries themselves properly and has impeccable manners.

>>9739816
b8888888888888

>>9739839
mainly I'm confused why some guy is namefagging in here when he doesn't seem to wear ouji or lolita at all. No offense to him but how is this lifestyler?

>>9739843
This is the funniest shit i;ve read all week

>>9734193
I don't even like dogs but those papillons (floofy ear things) and bichon frise are pretty kawaii and elegant

>>9739836
Only those with bad breeding would ever try to put down those less fortunate than themselves. Nice RP, but you're only exposing yourself as a desperate anon trying to make themselves seem more important.

>>9739838
> his lifestyle and hobbies have a lot of similarities
You answered your own question. It's also nice to have the input of a outsider.

>>9739846
Gropalope is basically a professional baroque larper who lives this lifestyle. It's the same reason that his clown makeup guide is still a standard in the visual Kei threads.

So back the fuck off my husbandu.

>>9739855
Lol sorry anon, I'm a newfag so I had no idea who he is. Thanks for answering and sage for my ignorance

>>9739838
It’s almost like anyone can appreciate it.
>>9739850
Papillons are super cute. Has there ever been a papillon print?

>>9739846
He's actually a LARPer but seems to have vast knowledge and appreciation for the eras from which lolita draws some of its inspiration, and he apparently practices things in his own life that lolitas can appreciate like tea etiquette and calligraphy.
Gropey actually contributes a lot more to these threads than the common lolita-at-heart anons, who think that if they drink enough tea it'll make them real lolitas.

>>9739860
Gropey fast facts
>Was actually a IRL circus clown
>Know a lot
>Works as a historic character at Colonial Williamsburg
>Not a fuck boy
>Is a cuddly potato with muscles
>Larps
>Fences
>Rumored to have piercings in places.

>>9739871
>Is your senpai
>Notices you

>>9739816
"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players". We're all playing a role, you just chose to play the role of the salt merchant.

>>9738422
>first year in the fashion
>posted on 01/01
first day???

>>9739986
That's quality sass ~<3

Moving along, Happy New Years, everyone! Did you do anything interesting for Christmas?

I tried to make my own yule log cake this year and it wasn't as painstaking as I thought. I just used an old recipe from my grandma's cookbook and tried to make as much as possible from scratch so it felt pretty cozy. I'd like to maybe try an actually really old recipe next time, since Yule logs date back to the 19th century. Do you guys have any recommendations for ancient recipes or something like Victorian cook books?

>>9735777
>>9735843
>>9736088
You can keep your genetically retarded inbreds, Jack Russells are far superior tbqh.

>>9740276
>Jack Russells
>no inbreeding
nice joke

Moving on, Happy New Years, everyone! What changes are you all hoping to make?

I had a rough 2017, so I'm hoping to add a bit more romanticism and lifestyle to my every day. I think it helps when you change your daily rituals. I'm going to try having a daily tea with a nice teaset at a set time so I can force myself to stop working and just sit down and relax. I'm also going to get into tea collecting and tea tins and to try to buy some really ones. I bought myself ceremonial grade green tea before the holidays and now it's pretty much impossible for me to go back to the original green tea I had.

>>9738789
I love the idea of a Lady's Society to learn traditional lady-crafts, but I'm not too much into etiquette myself (I'm a huge tomboy, and my dad's side came from a wealthy Milanese family so he always had "aspirations" and would try to teach me etiquette).

>>9740728
>that feel when you want to have a nice tea set and have lovely persian tea
>your boyfriend is a hardline irish republican and thinks tea sets are for dirty brits
>can't have tea without him shouting BRITS OUT while making himself a mug of barry's gold blend

>>9740957
Sounds tasteless and annoying, dump him.

>>9739871
I loved fencing! It’s too bad the outfits aren’t very kawaii.

>>9740728
I started learning piano last year. I'm hoping to get into violin this year. Learning to play instruments fills a bit of the emptiness in my life and i always feel just a tad classier when i'm learning them.

>>9740967
He doesn't do fencing like sport stuff. He does historic fencing in costume with a fencing mask and blunted swords or fences in medieval armor. The do stuff like punching and kicking as well and using swords.

>>9740728
My New Year's Resolutions are things I've been putting off for a good while.
>Read more classics (at least one biweekly) ('Carmella' is so Lolita)
>Study and apply etiquette to my daily life (no burping!)
>Be more graceful (such a klutz)
>Learn to use my above-average vocabulary without sounding pompous
>Try more teas instead of religiously sticking to gunpowder green and rooibos
>Write more letters and improve handwriting
>Quit my addiction to sugar and pizza (which will clear my skin)
>Use my cooking skills for once and actually make food at home instead of microwaving frozen chicken pot pies
>Practice piano and stop putting off learning to read sheet music
>Start learning Spanish and Japanese (maybe French too)

I want to pick up ballet, but my dad (a 2nd dan black belt) can teach me taekwondo for free so I'm doing that. The muscle control needed to perform well in taekwondo will train me to be graceful, right? (I hope.)

>>9740957
Sorry, I laughed.

>>9735777
my mom has a borzoi. They are beautiful dogs! happy to find another anon who likes them. Russian wolfhounds of the Czars, from back in the day.

>>9741009
B-B-Borzoi, doggo of the Russian queen!

>>9740957
god I hate the Irish. I'm so sorry.

>>9735767
I'd say it really depends on your style? Small, cute, spritely dogs like poms, mini poodles, or jack russell terriers might be good for sweet. Borzois, standard poodle for classic. Borzois would also be good for gothic. The German Schipperke might be good for gothic or kuro- they kinda look like little bats, but they're more on the spritely and small side, not long and regal.

I kinda wanna shoehorn the Great Pyrenees somewhere in there, but I'm not sure what style they'd match. Probably classic, but a very specific aesthetic.

>>9740728
This year I'm aiming to get a boudior table. I've started gathering small make up items to stock it with and when all my favourite haunts open back up after the holidays I'll start tracking down the actual table. I can't wait to stop doing my make up in the bathroom. I am going to feel so ladylike

>>9740986
I too hope to combat my sugar addiction this year. We can do it Anon!

>>9740957

Sometimes I think about good times in Ireland and then I remember why I left that shitehole of a country. Thanks for the laugh, he sounds unbearable, dump him etc

>>9741011
Makes me think of that Rasputin song...
But true, Borzois are very majestic, at least in photos. Having to clean one after comming back from hunting/ running around - not kawaii desu.

>>9739881
I noticed you noticed I noticed you. Thank you for noticing.

>>9740042
Only the best for you.

>>9740728
>What changes are you all hoping to make?
Lose more weight. Get back into tournament shape. Try and get back into a state museum rather than private. Get more of my guy friends into macaroni. If I get some kind of financial windfall, get back into riding regularly.

>>9740957
>>9741479
>>9741570
Fun fact: The Irish are the only people we're allowed to be racist about while in character at my museum.

>>9740967
As >>9740981 says, I am typically either in 15thC armour for the armoured fencing, or 17th/18thC clothing for rapier/dagger/smallsword. Anyone can look dashing/kawaii in good clothes

>>9740980
Good for you! Piano is a lovely instrument, and very versatile.

>Learning to play instruments fills a bit of the emptiness in my life
Why do you say that?

>>9740986
>>Try more teas instead of religiously sticking to gunpowder green and rooibos
If you like smokey teas, I highly suggest a nice Lapsang Schauchang. I am also personally partial to a floral mix of a strong Black (usually Assam) with jasmine, saffron and a dash of rosewater.

>I want to pick up ballet, but my dad (a 2nd dan black belt) can teach me taekwondo for free so I'm doing that. The muscle control needed to perform well in taekwondo will train me to be graceful, right? (I hope.)

It really depends. Ask him how he would describe the taekwondo he teaches to someone who practices Mu-Duk-Kwon.

>>9742353
forgot my trip from another thread.

>>9742358
>gropey shitposts anonymously without the trip

>>9742368
I don't see the need in most threads.

Is vaping considered lifestyle lolita? I vape CBD mixed with nicotine-free e-juices for my anxiety. I have a pastel pink mod and my fave flavor is violet tea with milk and honey.

>>9742385
>is mayonnaise an instrument

>>9742385
Vaping in any situation is an asinine and bothersome habit, where 9/10 users don't have the common decency of not filling a room with a cloud of luckycharms-unicorn-jizz-berry scented vapour, thicker than a WWI German gas attack.

TL:DR: if you wouldn't smoke a cigarette or a pipe somewhere, don't vape. No one wants secondhand robot blowjob.

>>9742385
Pretty sure Misako vapes, so as long as you're polite and don't do it in indoor public spaces, I'd say so! I've been wanting to try cbd for my anxiety - violet tea with milk and honey sounds divine. Where do you get it?

>>9742396
Misako vapes? Requesting pics. Wonder if she has a cute embellished vape.

>>9742396
Pics or it didn't happen.

>>9742391
Not as strongly worded, but vape people are obnoxious.
>Its just water vapor lel!
I have a serious respitory condition, and I want to get unladylike to the next rude person who says that.

>>9742431
I smoke. Its unhealthy and super not kawaii~ and I know it. Its common courtesy to take it outside and away from others. People who vape are the same as militant vegans about it and get super aggressive about it.

>>9742396
I only vape outside, or in vape shops where it's encouraged. I've heard of the stereotypical rude people demanding they be allowed to vape inside, but it's been several years since I've encountered anyone with that attitude in my area. I think maybe it's because vaping has been a huge thing here for longer it seems than other places.

I got my e-juice custom mixed for me at a local shop though, sorry. Pic related is the mod I use, I want to put stickers on it.

>>9742443
I'd be upset if people demanded they be allowed to vape inside but like I said, it doesn't really happen in my area. I only started vaping CBD because I hated being a xanax-zombie. I told my psychiatrist, and he recommended giving CBD a shot. It's been miraculous to say the least. I even lowered my dosage of anti-depressants.

>>9742454
I stopped smoking about 2 months ago and this mod is so cute is making me giving vaping a try.

>>9742391
>>9742431
>>9742454
I vape, but I don't share the fact that I do anymore because of the stigma that modders and cloudchasers have given us with their horrid habits. People call it a mouth fedora now.

>>9741556

Do it anon, and good luck! I borrow-inherited a vanity table when I was 15 and got so used to it that when I moved out and my grandpa wanted to keep it in his house, I immediately had to get a new one because I can't live without one now. They're wonderful for doing your hair/makeup/skincare.

>>9742454
use these

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/420-adorbs-vape-cats/32800325749.html

the cat ones or the bunny ones

>>9742385
Vaping is trashy and not lifestyle at all.

>>9742385
>is vaping lifestyle
No, not at all. However, you can make a lot of non-lifestyle things more the color of lolita. You sound like a sweet lolita, so I can understand trying to get your pink vapes and sweeter e-juices.

A lot of sweet lolitas in general really like making a lot of things that normally aren't "kawaii", like with decora or making things pink and things like that. You might as well dedicate if you're going to stick with vaping and should decora it up or make it cute.

Also, just an observation, I feel like sweet lolitas are always the one to vape, ironically. I don't know any classic or gothic lolitas that do, at least not openly.

>>9742835
In my experience, sweet lolitas are more likely to be into edgy shit in general.

>>9742385
It's not lifestyle, but I do as well, I could see someone putting vape juice in pretty dropper bottles and decoing the vape itself, but I just keep the unsightly stuff in a drawer. I've been using a rose flavored one mainly, and a tobacco clove one sometimes but I only use it in my own home. As far as lolita tobacco use goes, I have a collection of handkerchiefs and a couple of pretty snuff boxes with floral snuffs.

>>9742940
Wait is this pic where that earlier rumor about Misako vaping game from? 'Cause that looks like a lipstick.

>>9742943
nah, this is an old secret from whenever she posted this photo. it is lipstick.

>>9742353
Is fencing lifestyle? If I made a kawaii fencing outfit can it be lifestyle? Sword fighting in cord will bring me closer to being a real magical girl!

Can we show pictures of wearing lolita in your daily life

>>9744087
I think it's better to start a thread for this. We already had some in the past (you can search up archives) that were pretty popular.;

Newfag to Lolita here, are there any podcasts that would fit lifestyle Lolita such as an etiquette or historical fashion one? I like listening to podcasts while I clean.

>>9744062
Make it happen.

>>9744155
I enjoy Frock Flicks for historical fashion, they pick apart and talk about the historical accuracy of costume dramas abd movies. I also enjoy the History Chicks, where they dedicate one or two episodes to talking about a specfic woman in history.

>>9740728
Keeping it simple:


-Get more beauty sleep
Hopefully changing my schedule to first shift will help.


>>9740986

Good luck! I'm in a similar boat with re-learning how to sight read music, however, it might be put to the back burner. Going to Japan this year, so I'm trying to grasp hirigana and katakana and basic phrases down within a few months.

Ugh, wtf Japan, why you gotta have a dumb writing system? This is what you get for stealing from the Chinese.

btw, any mobile apps for the language would be greatly appreciated (for learning, live translating, etc.).

>>9742940
>>9742943
>>9742951

I recognize that rouge!

>>9744250
I found duolingo to be very helpful for language learning

>>9744172
Fencing Lolita now needs to be a thing.

>>9744172
>>9744873
>tfw only fencing club in area didn’t allow participants to wear skirts

>>9744873
>>9744897
It depends on which groups you look into.

Sport fencing is right out. Its also not as interesting in my opinion.

HEMA (historic european martial arts), runs the gamut from alpha-nerd sword jocks in motor cross gear, to people who actually are interested in the history as much as the sport. Shop around and find the latter, and express that you are interested in 19th/20thC fencing, and want to learn based on the concept of ladies fencing clubs- the majority who wore dresses, or even special fencing skirts, much shorter than was typically acceptable at the time (pic related).

cont.

>>9744966
Your other option depends on how into history you are. Recreation groups like the Society of Creative Anachronism (SCA Rennissance/Medieval) and a few of the 18thC groups (Like the Society for Baroque Amusements) are also options. Pic related.

Most groups shouldn't have a problem if you legit want to learn to fence in skirts. There is plenty of historic reason.

>>9744897
Apparently, there are still plenty of private schools that require skirts as well. Interesting.

I'm going to start a style call "hipster lolita" it's going to be so popular just you watch

>>9744966
That's adorable

>>9745085
It's called Mori, anon.

>>9745085
stop trying to be relevant

>>9745096
>Hipster Lolita
>Mori

Anyone have suggestions for heart prints or accessories to make a cute fencing jacket like >>9744966?

So how many gulls ran out and signed for etiquette/dance/fencing/underwater basket weaving lessons? How many are actually going to follow through?

>>9744449
Are laduree's cosmetics worth it? The packaging is so beautiful, but when it comes to makeup, I refuse to spend just for branding.

This thread is pretty bizarre

>>9748312

Hoooooonestly? I haven't used Laduree. But from what I've heard? Performance doesn't live up to the price, it's really more about the pretty packaging and the luxury feel. Although granted a lot of the complaints were about a lack of pigmentation and that's YMMV.

I still want their rose blush because it's just so beautiful, even though I never use powder products, and maybe a cream blush and a lipstick even though I've got a dozen cream blushes and lipsticks already. I'm a sucker for gorgeous packaging.

>>9748237
Signed my bf and myself up for my college's ballroom club newbie event on Valentines day, so thats happening at least once. Curious about the fencing club but money and time might not be right.

>>9748237
Couldn't get into violin so I'm learning more piano. Still have to check out ballroom dancing lessons in my area, though.

>>9744155
I just started listening to schmanners, which is etiquette with a bit of history.

>>9750807
Seconding Schmanners. My parents never taught me etiquette except for having a “no elbows on the table” rule so Schmanners has been very eye-opening (Thank-You notes are important!). My only complaint is that I find Travis (Schmanners’ co-host) to be occasionally forceful with his views and I hate that attitude even if I agree with his views.

>>9750815
Oh is he still as bad in the newer episodes? I’m only two in but I was hoping he’s get better since the McElroy’s seem to have improved since they first started podcasting.

>>9750822
Yes, but it doesn’t happen as often as it used to. The podcast is such a good resource that I’m willing to overlook it, but it irritates me when he does it.

After being reminded of Schmanners’ existence here, I listened to their episode on hankerchiefs, and it got me thinking: how many hankerchiefs do the people here own? What designs appeal to you? Where do you get them, or do you make them yourself?

I currently have none, as Amazon doesn’t return me any appealing designs in my searches and I’ve yet to really look elsewhere. I was looking into embroidering my own before being sidetracked by somethig else, and it promptly skipped my mind.

>>9744966
>>9748237
I just got back from my first historic fencing meetup. I was just there to watch and meet the group, but they got me doing drills and were excited about what I want to do as far as fencing in skirts. I was shocked to see at least a third of the members were other ladies. 5/5, going back next Friday.

>>9750575
Why?

>>9751141
I have probably around 20-30 total, many passed down from my mother and quite a few I've picked up at vintage shops and antiques malls. I have a lot of floral ones, and a lot of ones with tatted lace trim. I carry one or two clean ones in my purse at all times, they're very useful.

I went through the Line theme store because I was bored and found some themes suitable for sweet or classic lolitas.

https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/47addc99-42ef-4cc8-a8c2-4b7812dcff16/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/e73491ab-465d-4b5f-839e-765738b5caed/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/7b16c1a9-fffe-4813-bbbc-9eedee370479/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/6d706fea-4036-4679-b5cd-b213c1f41471?id=6d706fea-4036-4679-b5cd-b213c1f41471
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/7179d809-c1b1-4858-a87f-4cfc7a6d2917/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/6fcef7fe-4e2d-498b-b549-88148502a43c/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/ead1c168-c2e3-4c7e-8130-884cbe38577d/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/7ac55f04-336d-49e0-8c18-9eff2c65818b/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/0e3da590-4a80-4f65-82ad-51dc8994721e/en
https://store.line.me/themeshop/product/7a2d9014-8eea-4e57-9f38-39073c49aab5/en

I've been getting more and more interestedi n letter writing/penmanship and was wondering if you gulls had any recommendations for where to find a snail mail pen pal? I'd like to speak to another lolita, but mostly just someone around my age range also interested in writing nicely and decorating letters.

>>9757020
We had a thread exchanging information based on all sorts of various parameters (age, subject matter, location etc). This thread could work well enough. Just make a throw-away email if you are uncomfortable sharing yours.

>>9742353
Ah I fence also, I love it.

>>9757356
So fencing is agreed to be lifestyle?>>9757356

>>9757356
Modern or historic? What weapon?

>>9757484
Why not?

>>9750727
Yeah, I'm mostly interested in their blush and lipsticks. I'll probably buy them eventually for aesthetics when I have a better base set of make up.

>mfw in desperate need in a lady's maid for my hair and wardobe management/sewing
I'd pay good money, too, but no one has the combined range of skills these days.

>>9744219
I like human Japanese, it's pretty good to study with. I liked Duolingo, but I found it only to be useful for memorising hiragana, imo

>>9744219
>>9744250
Sorry, misfire

>>9759471
That sounds like a fun job desu though I doubt it'd pay enough for those that have the experience.

>>9760261
Well, it would be around $1500 USD a month but it would also be live-in with a private room and meals provided.

Yeah the biggest part is the daily hair styling and wardrobe, but they would need some basic sewing ability to mend and alter.

>>9751141
I have probably well over 100 handkerchiefs. The ones I have are almost always embroidered in some way, although I have a few that are printed or have lace trim. Some of them are passed down from my grandma and great grandma, but the bulk of my collection is from the antique stores near me. One time, I bought 80 dollars in hankies. The lady asked me if I was sure and I just smiled and said yes. I love all my hankies.

>>9751141
I only have Lolita brand ones, but I have no idea what to do with them. I more collect for the sake of collecting, as I would never use one.
Also some of my hankerchiefs are actually made from the same fabric as a towel. What do people do with those?

>>9761595
>Also some of my hankerchiefs are actually made from the same fabric as a towel. What do people do with those?
Those aren't handkerchiefs, those are hand towels. Japanese public restrooms don't always have towels or air dryers to dry your hands as its bad for the environment and costly. People carry around a hand towel in their purse or bag for this reason. It's better for everyone really.

>>9761604
Thank you for your explanation. I Do wonder why they still call them ハンカチ then in the secondhand sales though.

>>9761608
they are also referred to as hankachi in japan, that's why. a lot of them are like a mix; thinner and softer than a hand towel/washcloth but thicker than a handkerchief. "tenugui" hand towels are not the kind you keep in your purse.

>>9760663
>only 18k a year to be somebody's live-in bitch
are gulls really this self-important or

>>9735777
Them and Afghan hounds are classic elegant dogs, very lifestyle.

>>9760663
> $1500 USD a month
you can't even get a live in nanny at that price jfc lmao