/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9759879
These guys puzzle me, like what is their end-game? Getting modelling gigs? Becoming actors? Competing and winning prize money in bodybuilding competitions? Or do they all just live regular lives with regular jobs and the muscles are just a neat little side-project?

I don't get it

>>9760029
Bodybuilding and fitness modeling. In the case of someone like Jeff (the /fit/ meme in that pic) his entire life has to revolve about maintaining and improving that body, so having a regular day job isn't possible.

>>9759879
It's smart, since these days roids are pretty safe if you know what you're doing.

Lifting for 6 years, roiding for a year and a half.

>>9760029
I haven't met anybody who lifts specifically with a cosplay motivation in mind. It is a bonus to cosplay in the same way it's a bonus to multiple other aspects of people's lives. The majority enjoy the process (endorphins) while actually working out and in the long term striving towards and achieving goals, regardless of how arbitrary they are, eg bench press x is very satisfying and fulfilling.

The end game is basically a having a hobby that you enjoy.

Also makes hook ups at cons way more likely which is nice.

>>9760106
>roiding for a year and a half.
How much shrinkage is done to the balls? I can't tell if that's a myth.

>>9760118
Same guy posting from phone in bed.

I'd say about 20-30%. The actual testicle itself is currently the size of a medium to large grape? Its gradual though so difficult to measure change.

Worst side is smaller cumshots. But the massive hit to your fertility is a huge bonus. I dont want children so basically nuking my sperm count (tested) is really really good for me. Effectively its almost male birth control. Roids and pulling out is probably statistically safer than condoms. Or so I tell myself.

>>9759879
How many years does it take to look like that without roids? Is any /fit/izen here?
>>9760106
>>9760124
please explain above ty

Most guys don't take roids with the hope of becoming a model of some sort considering most models are about being cut and not big.

>>9760741
literally impossible without roids. He is too big/cut for that to be possible without roids

>>9760741
>please explain above ty
When you inject testosterone, your body produces less of it naturally so your testicles shrink in size.

>>9760745
>literally impossible without roids. He is too big/cut for that to be possible without roids
rip hopes and dreams then
I mean, not even with years of training? I feel/thought it was possible with proper eating and training.

>>9760748
it's possible if he has great genetics and he does almost nothing all day for year except work on his body and diet. Most people aren't going to do that so they take steroids and build muscle mass faster

>>9760748
This is pretty close to the natty limit. Similar size to Jeff but a higher bodyfat%. Keep in mind, it will vary a lot based on your own genetics.

This is years of proper training/diet.

>>9760754
How much % bodyfat does your pic related and OP have?

>>9760751
I see, thank you for responding

>>9760755
OP is probably be ~8%, and Scott would be closer to 10-11%.

Keep in mind the OP photo is from a photo-shoot with better lighting, oils, pump, prepping, etc.

>>9760758
Wait a second, I'm already at 8.9%. How much do I need to work out to get better abs and pecs, though?

I was 7% 3 years ago but I'm eating much more now and not doing enough aerobic

>>9760759
At 9% bf, I imagine you are pretty damn slim. You'd have to do a couple proper bulk/cut cycles to put on mass. Also as a natty you usually don't want to go bellow 10% bf because it can have a negative affect on your hormonal levels.

Aerobic exercise doesn't really matter for putting on mass, that is more for heart health and cutting

Make sure you are eating enough, eating the right things and training with good intensity.

>>9760767
Thanks, I think I eat well (no junk food ever, haven't eaten MCDonalds in ~10 years, no coke for 6+years, etc.) but sometimes not enough.

>training with good intensity.
I have trouble putting more weight, is there anything I can do to help? Like eating something specific before training, cold shower, etc.

>>9760777
Pre-workouts helps for a lot of people (or just caffeine of some sort). I find a lot of it is mindset. I use hype as hell music for heavy lift, grunt when need be and even get mad before big lifts.

Be sure to track your weight, weigh yourself first thing in the morning and compare your weight after a week to the previous number. From there, increase or decrease your food as needed. I know people that have lifted for years and are still very small because they just don't eat enough.

Diet should look something similar to pic related. Most important thing I find is just avoiding sugar and overly process garbage.

>>9759879
There is nothing wrong with steroids if used correctly. We just live in a society littered with false information and steriods being bad for you is apart of that. If high schools were to teach kids about how to safely use steroid rather than just trying to ram the idea of that they are bad down our throats, we would see a lot less people get hurt over using them.

>>9760106
I have been lifting specifically as cosplay as my motivation since day one and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I pretty much plan all my blasts with my con schedule in mind.

>>9760118
testicular atrophy does happen but its not nearly as bad as people make it seem. I was able to notice a slight shrinkage due to it being my own body but my ex girlfriend never couldn't even tell the difference.

>>9760741
Even with steroids it is very possible that you will never look like that.

>>9760759
>8.9%
I can guarantee that you are not and the method you used is probably very incarnate.

>>9760777
Its not about how well you eat, its more about hitting your macros. If you are not getting your calories in, you are not going to grow. Simple as that.

>Diet should look something similar to pic related. Most important thing I find is just avoiding sugar
>Fruit

ha ahaha ahahahahaah

>>9761063
>I can guarantee that you are not and the method you used is probably very incarnate.
I checked it with 2 different nutritionists. First in 2015 (when I got 7%), an this one last December (8.9%). The second one used 2 different methods for higher accuracy, according to him.

I've been active for 10+ years (though I only started working out recently). I don't eat fast food. Heck, I don't even eat red meat (I just don't like it).

>If you are not getting your calories in, you are not going to grow
will try my best

>>9760833
fuck, I can't into vegetables.
How well are eggs recommended, though? I thought they had considerable amount of fat.

>>9761134
yeeeah unless that was a dexa....skin fold isn't that accurate, sorry.

>>9761144
According to
https://www.verywell.com/calculate-body-fat-by-measuring-skinfolds-3120273
https://www.builtlean.com/2010/07/13/5-ways-to-measure-body-fat-percentage/

it has up to 98% accuracy/is reliable.
I'm not a bodybuilder tho, anything that's below 10% margin of error is okay for me desu. No reason to get a dexa

>>9761134
>fuck, I can't into vegetables.
Better start liking them if you want to look good. Vegetables are chalk full of important micro-nutrients/fiber. Broccoli especially is a staple of any bodybuilders diet because it has anti-estrogen like properties or something. Onions/garlic are very key too imo.

Eggs are fine. Good source of protein and bit of fat. Fat is very important in your diet for proper hormonal levels. You just don't want too much saturated fats and try to get it more from fish, oils, avocado, nuts, etc.

>>9761134
Ok if you honestly think that you have a lower body fat percentage than this guy then you are either delusional or an auschwitz survivor.
https://youtu.be/Mmnby7lLABc

>>9761153
You can not measure visceral fat can not be measured with calipers so already you are going to be getting an inaccurate measure meant.
And why not post an actual study rather than some article of a website made for middle aged women?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1428065/

I roid and cosplay because I love laughing at /cgl/ fatties at cons and destroying their hopes of ever getting to suck my micropenis.

Then I just proceed to fuck fresh twink crossplayer boypussy in the bathrooms.

>tfw living the dream since I discovered /fit/ and /fraud/

>>9761783
Nekko is that you?

>>9761843
Whoever that is I could probably snap his neck in 20secs

t. 11 years BJJ and 4 years kickboxing experience

>>9761768
Thanks for showing that video, I do think I have lower fat than that guy (pic related). Though I also have less muscular mass. It seems his total was of 15.1% (didn't check the whole video). Even if I add my body fat (8.9%) +
my visceral fat (5%), it still below than his at 13.9%.
>then you are either delusional or an auschwitz survivor
Or maybe I went to a doctor to measure it, and I trust them more than I trust a random anon who decided he's wrong.

Are you American by any chance?

About the study you mentioned, it is from over 25 years ago yet the skinfold method is still widely used and recognized as effective.

>>9761882
Back off the Tren, too much angst for an online fourm but he is just some Canadian /fat/ gone /fit/ cosplayer, I don't think he is /fraud/ though.