/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

First for flat chests not needing bras.

How long before coords with the new British Crown cuts to show up on social media? AP never gave on-model photos and I expected some release day coords from Chinese/Japanese lolitas but there's nothing on Insta yet.

Victorian Maiden is rereleasing Rococo Bouquet soon!

>>9759262
Nobody bought it because it's so ugly

>>9759293
I want to buy so much stuff they will be forced to stay open.

>>9759293
>tfw not my fave cuts

>>9759303
same anon, same

>>9759300
What? Lavender and ivory both sold out online in both cuts. The other colorways though, yes.

>>9759306
In your defense, their joke wasn't all that funny... But c'mon...

>>9759304
I was kind of hoping they'd rerelease their long OP but I'm just excited the cuts this round will be longer.

>>9759293
They also mentioned a 20th anniversary commemorative dress as well as a Victorian Queen big t-shirt. I'm excited to see how the dress would be like!

>>9759345

Is this it? >>9757274

>>9759539
Nah that's their classical doll OP unless they're doing something different with it.

Man, I was looking at the AP Japan site, the entire site is cleaned out after the winter sale. I finally have money and there's nothing to buy.

>>9759546
There'll be stuff on LM by now.

>>9759540

Thanks. I was trying to figure out what was different.

>>9759314
In the last thread people were shitting all over the dresses anon

>>9759934
/cgl/ shits all over every AP release

>>9759943
okay but that doesn’t disprove that the other post hardly seemed like a joke

>>9759949
I'm not arguing with you on that, calm down

>tfw worried about a dress I bought from LM but don't want to come off as rude for asking for proof pics
I-If I get a replica, oh well, I'll just trash it

>>9759951
kek, maybe learn to understand context first before mindlessly replying next time if you have nothing to contribute then

>>9759951
>Anon posts one sentence about why your post is useless
>c-calm down!!

>>9759107
Hi-chan <3

>>9759956

.....you're supposed to ask for proof before you buy it, not after.

If you haven't paid, you can still try sending her a message. If you're worried about looking rude, make up some idiotic thing like your Mom made you ask for another proof photo, parents amirite, etc.

If you've already paid, oh well. Good luck.

>>9759293
but /when/

to respond to last thread's bra talk, I'm the "60E/28DD" anon
>>9759004
>>9759006
as others kindly explained to you two, 60 in the European system does not mean that the band is 60cm. just measuring now, my ribcage comes up as 29 inches/73 cm so I might actually round better to 30 inches/65 in the EU system, which makes life just a little bit easier.

>>9759009
.. anon, how do you find out lolita dresses fit you if you've never tried them on?
for any other confused gulls, look up /r/abrathatfits and use their bra size calculator - I've found it to be accurate

>>9759065
thanks a lot anon, I'll look into it!

also, affordable blouse recs? I need some stuff to put under my jsks, and neither of the two blouses I own is wearable at the moment
https://shop117088503.world.taobao.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a1z3p.7398038.0.0.DdK7LU already have this link as a suggestion

>>9759956
You're not the girl who bought that Cats Tea Party, right?

>>9759985
>to respond to last thread's bra talk
Omg stfu

>>9759960
>i can't add in a relevant point to the conversation

ok

>>9760037
was that meant towards yourself? i was arguing towards the point that people in the last thread shit all over the release, so >>9759300
didn't seem much like a joke. your point that /cgl/ shits over all releases contributed nothing and wasn't relevant to the point at all. seemed like you just wanted to reply to something without even reading context, so here's your attention.

>>9760046
>wasn't relevant to the point at all

But it was? are you daft?

>>9759990
Oh hell no, I don't even have the money for that. Most I'll spend on burando is $400 (and the dress isn't cute to me)
>>9759984
I-I know, I just jumped at the opportunity because it's one of my dream dresses and was up for a good price. The pictures they posted looked legit and the lace matched up but I'm still sketch about it. I'll just hope for the best

>>9760111
I've never had to do it, so I'm not sure, but if she's sold you the dress as the real deal and then it turns out to be a replica, you could probably file a PP claim, no?

>>9760046
i'm embarrassed for you

Is there a link/has anyone saved the 2nd sweet rebel trailer? If so, care to link it/send it to me? If you have it I can drop my email. I know the first one is on bilibili, but I really want that 2nd one.
Need it for educational purposes.

There was a girl who used to post on daily lolita on LJ and she sewed a lot of her own things and had altered some Bodyline pieces (I think the clock print was one of them) into really nice designs. Does anyone remember her username? I wanted to look at her projects again for inspiration.

>>9760117
Yeesh. Whoever took and approved of that photo does not like her.

>>9760151
That's widely regarded as one of her best

>>9760151
She's just ugly anon.

>>9760151
Then you've never seen the photos she uploads herself...

>>9760158
i think its partly her constantly crusty and lopsided make up

>>9760097
explain to me how someone saying /cgl/ bitches about ap releases all the time is relevant to saying because people bitch about ap releases it wouldn't be seen as a joke

>>9760160
Nah her face is fucked in general too. But her doing shit like putting lipgloss on her eyelids doesn't help.

>>9760163
I feel sorry for you that you're this slow.

>>9760165
>can't explain
ok anon :^) whatever you say

>>9760160
Wait are those falsies like 5mm above her actual lashline?

>>9760166
>>9760165
>>9760116
>>9760097
>>9760046
Jesus fucking christ. Can we have a general not shit up by autists for once? Shut the fuck up, nobody cares about a joke or lack-thereof.

I figured out who posted me to cgl. They're not a friend of mine and don't follow me on social media. We met very quickly once and she didn't even say hello, just spoke to my friends, but I smiled and was polite and didnt think anything bad about it at the time. I really want to people to know what she did but she's efamous. Any tips for what I should do, if anything? Still not sure why she'd do something like that, and what she said really hurt. I'm also worried she'd do it again.

>>9760254
How did you figure it out? Did she tell you lol

>>9760254
>>9760265
You don't have to be Sherlock fuckin Holmes to figure this shit out

What did she post you for?

I recommend name and shame, spill that tea.

Super noob question, but why is CTP such an expensive dress? Is it because of Imai Kira? Most very sought after dresses I can definitely see the appeal of, even if they're not something I would wear myself (Puppet Circus, Iron Gate and so on...) but I can't put my finger on CTP to be honest

>>9760166
I shouldn't have to explain the obvious.

>>9760282
For a very long time it was one of APs only cat prints. That paired with it being a collar with Ima Kira lead to it being a dress people paid out the ass for.

>>9760288
collab*

>>9760168
Let them be, Anon-chan. A lot of autistic people have no safe haven to be autistic safely. If arguing for hours about such trivial things helps them satisfy their autism, I don't mind the sperging. It lets them have their fun, and I have fun watching the freak show.

>>9760300
there's nothing autistic about what they're doing? an autistic person would've left the confrontation 2 hours ago

>>9760304
The fixation on the argument about something so pointless is a dead giveaway. But it was entertaining, so I'm not mad about the shitposting.

>>9760288
Whimsical vanilla Chan is better

>>9760254
If you're anyone that was posted about in the last two weeks, you kind of deserved it and I'm willing to bet more than just that secret maker has those thoughts of you.

>>9760308
No it's not. There are just some depressed neets on 4chan always looking for an argument. And yes there are autists that are also neets. That's not an excuse for you people to shit on autists all the time.

Has anyone noticed any market trends lately? For about the past 3 or so months, there's been an influx of sellers on LM dumping trendy cat prints. Since the new year, I've seen multiple sellers offload LOTS of chocolate-themed stuff (also on LM. Valentine's day opportunists? New diet?). Seems like prices for main pieces have gone up like they have for brands themselves I guess. Wdyt?

>>9760313
Sorry I triggered your autism Anon-chan <3. Aspies especially (now part of autism) are pretty much known for arguing at length over things literally nobody but them cares about. I'd feel bad for them, but it's too funny.

>>9760322
No problem little cunt

>>9760325
Yes sweaty, take that autism and anger out on me. This is your safe space <3.

>>9759990
There are CTP replicas?

>>9760321
Chocolate items always trade hands fairly often. New Years is a time when people go through their wardrobes so it's not surprising to see them pop up a lot around this time, this is nothing new.

>>9760328
Please stop replying to bait. Have another birds print picture.

>>9760282
Someone did an analysis a few months ago about this subject.
http://nadinao.com/cats-tea-party-value/

tl;dr
>It's really are, there are probably about 50 of them ever made
>It's one of the few modern releases that was made in Japan, considering it came out 3 years after AP moved manufacturing to China that's kind of a big deal quality wise
>They're almost all exclusively hoarded up in China, there are probably less than 20 circulating in the US

>>9760310
Vanilla-chan is dead, Anon. AP kills all their cute mascots.

>>9760311
>>9760274
>>9760265

No, it was about a month ago. I worked it out though a combination of 'why is this girl so rude to me' (we're in the same comm, she doesn't like/comment whenever I comment on her things but she replies to literally everyone else) and who had access to certain info.
If I name and shame her I'll be just as bad and probably cause myself to get in more drama (which I dont want). How can I make sure she loses all her credibility? I've realised she didnt just post me, she posted my friends too. It's subtle but it made me doubt who I could trust.

>>9760349
What happened when you confronted her?

>>9760349
Post the secret.

anyone else having a long turnaround time with closet child orders? i've been waiting a week for mine to ship.

>>9760354
It wasnt a secret, it was posts on cgl.

>>9760350
I haven't, I don't even know if I should. I'm sure she'd just say she didnt do it and I'd look like I need mental help.

>>9760420
which posts? if she posted multiple we wouldn't be able to tell which was you.

>>9760160
Come on guys, that photo is old. I bet she 's improving

>>9760461
Her make up has not improved at all.

>>9760420
Did she post you on an ita thread or say something mean about you? How bads the damage? Is it worth pursuing

>>9760461
newfag

>>9760321
A lot of the chocolate prints come out in autumn/winter and are heavier-weight, it's possible that people who don't wear lolita often are selling because they won't get any more opportunities to wear them before spring.

Also wardrobe posts, people clear stuff out.

>>9760601
>live in frozen tundra
>stock up on heavy normie clothes on clearance every spring

my time has come.

There's no stupid question thread so asking here: Why the hell are so many LM listings missing waist ties? Where do they go? How do people lose them? If you remove the ties wouldn't you just put them back on the dress before hanging it back in your closet?

Can anyone explain this phenomena to me?

>>9760615
I've noticed a lot of Japanese listings without waist ties, same thing at CC and WW. I don't store my waist ties on the dress, but rather organized in boxes. My guess is others do the same, lose track of where they put what, and either can't find the items or can't be bothered to look.

I had a seller offer to send me the waist ties to a dress I'd bought ~6 months later because she found them when she moved.

>>9760615
I used to wonder this and then I lost a bunch of pinbows when I moved across the country. I store my waist ties separately because someone told me to do that, and I misplace them constantly. So, you know, this doesn't happen for smart reasons, but just because people are dumb and careless.

>>9760615
People are careless. I store my waist ties through the buttonhole on the hanger or in the pocket. Especially helpful when I forget to put them on and arrive at the meet.

>>9760168
>replying to ~autistic comments~ to complain about them and calling more attention to them
nice 1

>>9760420
>It wasnt a secret, it was posts on cgl.

Make a secret about her?

>>9760347
How many dresses do ap normally make per print anyway or is it based on demand.

>>9760347
Did they ever ask Maki and Asuka about the numbers? 50 is very speculative.

>>9760349
It's Voldie isn't it?

>>9760771
Voldie already lacks credibility.

>>9760716
IIRC they asked at the AP Q&A at Dream Masquerade Carnival and Maki and Asuka said they didn't remember because it was years ago but agreed 50 sounds about right.

>>9760349
>>9760254
I hope it's not me.

>>9760771
>>9760254
idk who the anon posting is, but I haven't posted anyone to cgl in years, i just come here for the bst threads, dream dress threads, and to get triggered when ppl are mean to me. I rel8 to that like crazy tho, I'm p sure I know who it was that was posting my personal fb pics in the COF thread but it's not like i can say anything

>>9760615
I store most of my waist ties over the hanger loop because leaving them to dangle puts unnecessary stress on the buttons and material, plus looks sloppy in my closet. I still managed to misplace a pair when I moved. These days I avoid detachable ties if I can and just drape them over the shoulders of the hanger so there's no trailing.

Some people just don't wear them, especially if they get ready alone.

>>9760858
i'm kind of worried that you think it's me because of something i messaged you that day, and desu this post probably makes me seem more suspicious if anything but yeah i'm sorry if i did/said anything that made me seem like i'd post you. i swear i didn't do it.

>>9760349
Why aren't you contacting your friends directly about this? Have you told them? If you're positive it's whoever it is, tell them first before you start a witch hunt. Maybe they'll agree with you she's chilly and rude.

" Serious buyers only – no feelers/back-out!!! I will leave negative feedback and tell my other lolita friends about you."

I saw this on a LM listing and it confused me a bit. I understand not wanting people to back out of a sale but what qualifies as a 'feeler' ? Isn't that just asking item info and shipping info to see if the purchase is right for you/you can afford it?

>>9760858
I posted a few of your pics in that thread and I got them off your insta. i don't know you personally I just have a lot of salt towards fat people and you have a cute face but you're ruining it by being a fat fucking pig plus you stretch out lotta.

>>9760142

I really only remember baroquepetrock. But I wanted to say sew_loli probably has a smaller pool of entries if you want to try and look through that instead of egl.

>>9760688

CTP was an MTO. Retail was already $400++ at that time. I think a number of girls probably couldn't cough up the money on the spot the week the MTO went live.

>>9760927
Normally feelers are when sellers are thinking about selling an item but aren’t 100% sure yet or want to know how many people are interested and how much they want to pay for it. So I feel like it’s a poor word choice from someone whose native language is probably not English.
I think she means people who are interested in the items, but who are not sure if they want to buy it or not, but yet still bid or purchase the item and then start asking questions. (Otherwise she can’t leave them negative feedback.)

>>9760858
Hey Voldie where’s the white cardigan in >>9760771 from? It’s cute.

>>9760282
It's mostly because of the limited quantity. It was MTO during a time when the yen was really strong. Also Cinema Doll was released at the same time, so it had another cat print to compete with.

>>9760858
I'm the OP and it's not voldie.
I guess this girl isn't as efamous as her, she's only efamous in our region. She's done a lot for our community, and is widely regarded as being a good member. My friends all like her because she has a lot of followers and is nice to them. I don't want a witch hunt, I just want to gradually put it into people's heads that she's not a good person, if I can. Subliminally.

Does anyone own the whip girl cutsew? How far does the chest stretch? My chest is 95cm,I fit into most pieces with partial shirring.

Gulls,if this dress isn't lolita (it could be but something's missing and maybe the quality isn't so good), what style is it? I like it but am trying to wear lolita only and I only have brand (with the exception of two Infanta dresses and a Bodyline skirt)

>>9761183
if it's japanese you could call it harajuku style. why do you want to know? a lot of styles don't have a label, just call it cute style or girly style or something.

>>9761183
Fuck,won't let me upload but that dress is that To Alice assymetric dress with a collar that has card symbols on it (ace,heart,... and all that stuff).
So definitely not lolita but i'm worried it would be made so cheap it"ll look like i'm wearing a cheap cosplay

>>9761192
do you have a link?

>>9760931
nayrt but post people and be mean to them all you want. I bet it fucking sucks ass being you: tormented by thoughts that you're so fat and ugly, constantly comparing yourself to others. must be hell, anon.
I've been lurking for years and it really tested my insecurities, but I passed.
Whether I lose or gain weight is my choice and my own concern. it feels good to be free and so sure of myself. you can be healthy and chubby at the same time. look at your family history and know your range. whatever your goal is, make sure it's something that you want for yourself, and not what others say they want because they could honestly care less whether you live or die.

lolita is about being yourself, not for reproduction, romance, or popularity. you can't achieve strength and character while letting toxic shit control your mind. get zen, anon. love yourself.

>>9761167
you'll fit it just fine. cutsews have give, but will be shorter on you depending on torso length and chest size. the worst that'll happen is it won't land long enough to tuck into skirts, but will be just fine under a jsk.
how to coord all depends on your proportions so yeah, just buy it and try it on.

>>9761224
>make sure it's something that you want for yourself, and not what others say they want because they could honestly care less whether you live or die.
I hate fat people because we all pay for their healthcare together. I wish fat people died quicker so we wouldn't have to pay for so many of them for so many years.

>>9761047
Hate to say this anon, but if you and a couple of other people are the only ones she has targeted, it is possible you might be the issue. Have you ever done/said anything that could be taken the wrong way?

Also, kill it with kindness often works. Just turn up being nice to her/sucking her tit and she might leave you alone if she really is just a bully. Get her and your mutual friends a gift, make sure you give it to her as well. Shit like that.

>>9761224
Okay but when you fat fucks stretch out brand and then list it as good condition that's not fair to people who actually have self control. If I pay $300 for a dress listed as good condition it better be good condition and not busted like a rekt tire.

This isn't even bringing up taxes I pay because of fat people like the other anon did.

>>9761243
Aren't unhealthy foods/drinks now having an extra tax so fatties have to pay into their own healthcare more? Or is this memory actually something I made up in my own head while I was idealizing how the working class who still try their best to take care of themselves could avoid having to financially support people who just have no self control with their shit choices?

>>9761247
No

>>9761047
Is it because you're fat/ugly and your coords are ita?
If so, just improve at coording and makeup.

Otherwise >>9761240

>>9761247
I think you mean the soda tax? Pretty sure cities who've tried this have been sued out the ass and required to stop.

>>9761247
Not in my country, even though all the most prevalent causes of death are obesity-related. We have universal healthcare, too. I really wish junk food got taxed the same way cigarettes are. Contrary to what I often hear people claim, all fat people I know eat junk food regularly and will usually go for the junk food over healthy food because it's cheaper and more satisfying. When we're out as a comm the fat girls always go for the most unhealthy options even if they claim they're dieting. Meet days are "cheat days" apparently.

>>9761271
It's the same in my country but we have a center-right government and that's not going to change any time soon. Possibly not in my lifetime. I don't hate the people who have an addiction to food/sugar, but I hate the mindset of >>9761224. I received my dream dress stretched out and I'm still salty about it.

>>9761278
>>9761243
quit griping and file complaints or submit a chargeback.
I bought a dress 2ndhand off mercari that arrived with super stretched shirring, bodice and straps, that was just from being hung improperly in a closet. It was cheap though and worth rehabbing.

bad or inexperienced sellers come in all sizes. not everyone takes care of their pieces like they should. some small girls don't even fucking wash or dry clean their brand out of "fear" so I've gotten things with b.o., caked pits, and disgusting dingy collars.

if you're desperate enough to pounce on a DD without checking the condition, that's on you. I buy used almost exclusively, and I've made dress rehab part of my hobby. you'll likely never have the pleasure of buying anything off me because I keep everything that I can wear. My wardrobe is a permanent collection.

in an ideal system, elastic stays tight forever. but we live in a reality of death and decay. stop trying to act like my being overweight has any real affect on you. I live in burgerland, have a full-time job, pay for my own private healthcare, and am working on getting toward the lower end of my healthy range. but I refuse to be thin. I love the way my chub feels and looks on me, and that's my preference.

>>9761312
I think "chubby" people just don't realise when a dress is stretched, because it fits them so it's perfect condition to them. She certainly didn't disclose it in my case. I now request worn pics before buying, and if they send me a pic that is not theirs, I ask them for their own measurements instead of just copying lolibrary's.

>>9761312
How do you hang a jsk properly? I want to be certain I'm doing it the proper way for my jsks with adjustable/removable straps.

>accidently posted in wrong thread like a doof

I don't like yellow in real life, but I've been noticing I'm a complete sucker for sweet and classic in a yellow colourway, especially with any red accents in the print. I'm really looking forward to yellow in the spring/summer.

Anyone else have any color combos that instantly make you need a release?

>>9761333
Sleeves getting stretched mostly applies to when an OP has elastic sleeves, the elastic gets pulled by the weight of the dress. I don't hang up any of my dresses with elastic in the sleeves, I keep them folded in my armoire.

>>9761333
Hang it over a pants hanger, don't hang it up with stress on the elastic

>>9761333
I fold them in half and hang them that way instead.

How do people store their clothes I know this gets asked a lot but I have no idea where to find cute clothes rails

>>9761319
This, I often hear chubby or big-boobed girls talk about how surprisingly well a certain piece fits them even though it’s super apparent to me that it’s stretching to the max and the seams are under heavy strain. Like, it zips up and they can still breathe so that means it fits perfectly, right? There are a few girls I know never to buy anything but accessories from because their definition of “fit” and “good condition” is totally different from mine. I know they wouldn’t knowingly try to deceive me, but I can’t trust their standards.

>>9761393
Even though outside storage looks nice, in practice your clothes will get dusty and potentially sun-faded. Better to store them inside a wardrobe.

>>9761312
>wahh i'm fat and i don't want to admit it so i list things as good condition to delude myself further
>it's YOUR fault not mine!

Fuck off

What are some legendary tier dresses?
I've been a lolita for 5 years but I guess I was never really attracted to hype stuff

- ctp
- iron gate
- puppet circus
- ??

>>9760997
Liz Lisa! I think sleepykitten may have the same one up on keimarket, she did a few months ago.

>>9761424
-Grazia Crown
-Lotta (in blue)
-Fleur Antoinette
That makes it 6 rather than 5 but still.

can't upload

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/iv/IVPQ2WC0SG671516407930757.jpg

Lolita EGL Dva is coming tomorrow to overwatch.

One million gamur gurls are going to cosplay this outfit. Is lolita fashion finally normie's now?

>>9761424
>>9761455
Also possibly those special edition gradient colorways of Misty Sky.

>>9761455
-Lotta (in blue)
Maybe the original nordic blue but certainly not the rerelease?
That one sells for like $300

>>9761464
>>9761455
on that note none of these are legendary dresses
sure, popular, but not legendary tier

>>9761455
While certainly those are sought after dresses, are they really CTP/Iron Gate/Puppet Circus tier? They routinely go for a lot less and pop up on the market with decent frequency I feel.

Honestly only dress I think hits that level of expensiveness is Die Walkure full set, and probably the mentioned gradient Misty Sky at this point.

If we're talking hype alone plenty of dresses hit that level of hype, but many of them are much more common and affordable.

>>9761393
I have a few jsks. So I hang them in the closet with some dress bags I found on daiso. If I wear a dress out I let it air out for a couple of days before putting it back in the closet.

>>9761456
Just look at it. It will be "loli maid costume: electric boogaloo"

>>9761456
This really isn’t that much different from all the existing cringy “Lolita” Cosplays. Have to say I already look forward to the complains on how mean and elitist we are for not liking their “lolita coords”. Critisizing these girls is going to be fun

Also I don’t think that something is normie as soon as it is featured in overwatch. Most normal people don’t play this all. All the people I know who play this were already in the geek/gamer/anime culture. Cosplay also isn’t a normie thing. Just a bigger minority culture than JFashion.

>>9761471
There still is one AatP dress that goes for a lot, but I have forgotten the name. It also is in the $1000 range. But the other dresses are indeed not really legendary. I have seen that specific Lotta go for less than $300 quite a few times now.

Also Violet Blue tweeted that they have a Die Walkure set in their possesion and it will go for cheap!

>>9761410
This. I'm starting to give up getting things secondhand and buying things without shirring or elastic.

>>9761456
She even has cat ears. Incredible. One more fandom ita to the list, I guess. Seen one, seen them all.

>>9761344
Grey, black and blue

>>9761424
I think "legendary" dresses are dresses that really made an impact when they were released and made people from other substyles pay attention to it

85 cm bust 69cm waist with bra and shirt on, will I fit comfortably in Mary Magdalene? looking specifically at Whyteleafe or Angelica with sleeves (the fact that I have slightly wider shoulders than burando generally assumes may also be of note, at about 38cm flat)

>>9761456
I'm morbidly ashamed of this game despite really liking it

>>9761229
Fuck off with your concern trolling. You just want to hate on someone and fat people are who you targeted because hating on them is still somewhat socially acceptable.

>>9761530
>concern trolling

that's not concern trolling, anon pretty blatantly stated they hate fat people because fat people cause her a personal loss.

But I'm not surprised you can't read, fat people are stereotyped as being dumb and looks like that's true in your case.

>>9761528
Probably not with your waist.

>>9761530
Where are you from that it’s considered socially acceptable to hate on fat people? Where I live it’s considered as bad as racism if not worse, even though they’re completely different.

Has anyone ever released a sax/pale dusty blue chiffon underdress JSK similar to this? Even Taobao is fine, VM never released this in sax and I've no idea where I'd find something similar.

Can't post pics so here's link:
>https://lolibrary.org/items/victorian-maiden-shirring-chiffon-under-jsk-2014

>>9761528
The shoulders and waist will not fit you. MM usually goes for 34 cm shoulders and at 35, I have to alter my MM OPs because I cannot move my arms without stretching the seams in the arms.

>>9761589
I've looked this up online but gotten conflicting answers, how do I measure my shoulders to see whether or not they will fit a lolita piece? I've never had any issues with my shoulders not fitting but I've been interested in MM and their sizing seems to be more prohibitive than most.

>>9761471
So in order to qualify for 'legendary' status a dress must be highly sought after, uncommonly sold and expensive? I feel like rather than pure price point it's more a matter of whether the value has gone up by a large amount from the release price.

>>9761047
Is this about josinemaaike? I've heard someone else recently talk badly about her and she fits the profile you described. This is interesting to me because she does seem perfectly friendly and contributes to the comm a lot.

>>9761535
hum, that's unfortunate - I can pull the tape to a 66 with force and serious sucking in, but I agree that it wouldn't be comfortable on me assuming it's true to size (which these tend to be).

>>9761589
goddamn, really? that's really unfortunate, and I really don't like wearing JSKs either...

>>9761456
They don't even call it lolita desu, how is this different from any anime frilly dress rendition?

Is it a sin to wear black shoes with brown tights? I'm trying to put together a coord with brown tights and having the fuckiest time trying to find brown shoes that will suffice.

>>9761424
- Marionette in my Closet Room
- Wish Me Mell Tea Time

>>9761597
Spill the tea on josine?

>>9761662
Only for you bb

>>9761424
>>9761662
ooo Marionette is a good one.

let's not forget the one, the only Jellyfish Princess OP

>>9761424
>>9761662
ooo Marionette is a good one.

let's not forget the one, the only Jellyfish Princess OP

Maybe this shit hole will finally die and we will all be liberated

>>9761456
Oh, sweet child. You act as though we're new to series making lolita characters or outfits.

If anything, it's great when we combine forces. I mean, a Moi-Meme-Moitie x Miku collab just happened. Some of the best lolita pieces were anime or game collabs. I would certainly not be against something like a Kitty D.Va Overwatch x AP or Baby piece. They could maybe tweak the design a bit and I'd gladly buy it.

>>9761657
Well it’s not like you’ll be arrested by the lolita police but I personally think that sounds like it would be really ugly. Can’t you pull a different colour from elsewhere in the coord? What colour is your main piece, your bag, etc.? You’ll probably end up with shoes in a lighter colour than the tights.

>>9761716
>Some of the best lolita pieces were anime or game collabs.
that’s just like, your opinion, man
I think the Baby/AatP collabs are nearly all ugly as fuck but hey, more for you.

The guys at Baby are psychic, the moment I was thinking about trying to hunt down Elizabeth, they rerelease it

>now it’s a matter of reserving it

>>9761597
>>9761678
I've also heard someone recently talk about J being two-faced but the girl who said that is a total salt mine who always says the same thing about people she's jealous of, so I took it with a grain of salt (lol). I don't think this is about J because I can't think of anyone in our comm who's been unfairly posted to cgl lately.

>>9761716
can i ask a stupid question? is suiseiseki gothic lolita or classic lolita? i don't know that fashion much

>>9761766
If you must categorize it she's more classic than gothic, but in truth she's not a lolita at all. The character designs in Rozen Maiden may have been inspired by lolita fashion but they're not actually lolita.

>>9761766
Since Innocent World made the collab dresses I would say classic.

>>9761678
Same as >>9761759 I'm entirely unsure about how legit this claim is, as the girl seemed to mostly have a personal vendetta against J. Basically she just claimed that she's two-faced and has done mean things in the past and no one should trust her. The usual.

>>9761755
Laughing because there's still a girl trying to sell hers for $950 on LM.

>>9761755
Can you report your luck with getting it? I'd like it too, but I'm sure it'll be like a bloodbath. I really think Elizabeth could use another release.
>>9761721
What about the Princess Jellyfish OP, anon?

>>9761721
Thanks anon. The main piece is pink (alice's marchin' cookie skirt). I was trying to avoid off-white shoes since wearing white shoes makes me paranoid of dirt/scuffs, but I found shoes in my size and went for them.

Since I'm trying to use the skirt in a more casual coord I didn't want to go with pink shoes that I could only wear with this one item (not a huge fan of pink coords on myself, personally, but couldn't resist the skirt when I saw it in-person). I'll get more use out of off-white shoes than pink.

>>9760254
To the OP

Cen here from the dutch community. I understand this might be a weird approach and a tricky situation, but know that you may message me about this and I will do my absolute best to help resolve the situation. If you don't want help, know that you may always message me anyway.

>>9761871
So you do have good reason to believe that this is someone from our comm aside from some anons throwing accusations around? Because if not, you’re throwing J under the bus by announcing yourself like this.

>>9761678
i do not believe it is about J tbqh. she is kind and maybe not all 500 members in dutch comm like her but cannot please everyone right? i am in the comm since forever and she has always been nice to everyone afaik.

Anybody has a picture of that really weird Mary Magdalene/JetJ/indie (??) JSK with Jesus face print located in the boob area? Tell me I wasn't hallucinating while scrolling one of WTF Brand threads...

>>9761914
Yeah, she is always so nice. So it's difficult to believe it's about her, though I try to keep an open mind it seems unlikely it's about her.
Honestly OP didn't even say they're from the Dutch communication, this could be about anyone really.

>>9761928
No problem, I managed to find it!

>>9761424
Don't forget the legendary kuragehime dress

>>9761759
Was it the girl who makes drawings of herself?

>>9761937
that's been mentioned like 4 times now

>>9761932
I call this dress neckbeard jesus

>>9761929
>OP didn't even say they're from the Dutch comm
This, which is why it's weird for "Cenpai" to jump the gun like she did. If I were J I'd be like, thanks for the vote of confidence there sis.

>>9761932
ngl I kind of want this just so I can stand next to people in photo and have Jesus look at them disapprovingly

>>9761932
This print is iconic. Can you imagine coming to a meet in a cardigan, then opening it up? You can just look over to your comm and say, "Jesus is side-eyeing you all."

>>9761716
Same anon, same. I'm unironically excited for the skin to release.

>>9761949
I know, I meant to post this yesterday before bed but it seems like I had a connection error and then accidentally posted it just now instead of aborting it.

>>9761964
I'd laugh heartily.
Have you ever seen worn pics of it? I only ever remember seeing stock pics and pics of it on mannequins.

>>9761755
I'm annoyed they're only rereleasing the Gloria OP when the JSKs are the ones that go for a lot of money.

>>9760349
So how do you know exactly that this person posted you? What is your proof?

>>9760858
Lol why are you larping as a drake fan?

>>9760274
If its not hard to figure out who is posting - go a head and post who I am.

>>9761989
I can't seem to find it, can you tell me when they plan to rerelease or link me to the gloria rerelease please?

>>9761455
Is Grazia still considered worth a lot? Been out of the loop for a while but on recent LM browsing I noticed the price trending down from what I remember. Granted the listings I saw were mostly for less popular cuts (long/high waist) or less popular colors like the bordeaux

Does the navy just waist still go for a lot?

>>9761471
This discussion did make me think about some older dresses that I used to regard certainly not as grail or legendary dresses, but at least as extremely popular/worthy ones, and how they've seemingly lost value these days. For example the wine JSK 2 cut of Masquerade Theatre, Vampire Requiem, or anything Chess Chocolate. Especially Chess Chocolate, looking at auctions these days.

>>9761721
Same, I think Metamorphose has the most wearable and appealing collab pieces overall. Somehow when Baby/AATP goes to design a collab, they go completely off the rails and it comes out unwearably cosplayish.

>>9761964
if someone peeks at your boobs, there is Jesus to save them

No price check thread and couldn't find the Moitie thread, I have the Chemical Lace jsk with light damage (2 of the lace loops have been pullied off, two others have been mended) and general aging, how much do you think it would be worth?
https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-chemical-lace-jsk

>>9759107
There's some pretty great stuff over on the farm in relation to the ScarfingScarves situation for those who care. Baldo has his own thread.

>>9762024
It's part of their bazaar sale: https://m()facebook()com/groups/164616400384463?view=permalink&id=884839121695517&ref=bookmarks

Is this a joke AP? Why did you put out this poorly shopped picture for Grand Bazaar.

Not sure if this should go in the general, but what do you do if someone is (possibly) trying to scam you?
They bought a dress from me in November, and I shipped it to their address on paypal. They contacted me a couple weeks later saying they didn't receive it, but I using the tracking number, it showed as delivered.
They then said that they had moved from that address, and had written it in the notes that I was supposed to send it to a different address from what was on their paypal account. They did not message me to inform me of this change or to read the notes, so I never scrolled down far enough on the Paypal transaction to see it. I contacted the post office per their request, but since the package was already delivered, there was nothing I could do. She (presumably) filed a police report and said the new residents were sending the package back to me.
Fast forward to now, and she contacts me saying that she's going to start a dispute. I never received anything back, and now checking the tracking number again, the previous tracking and delivery info is gone, replaced by very recent (within a week) tracking info saying the package was dropped off at the post office (in her city) and is being forwarded to a new address.
How fucked am I, if she tries to get her money from paypal? It seems like she's getting the package already, but since it doesn't say delivered on the tracking anymore, she's trying to scam me out of the money.

>>9762090
Like 100 dollar, or much less depending on the damage

>>9762120
>>9762120
I have the feeling the picture is suposed to be see-through. Which becomes white with the standard layout. Only some devices causes transparent photos to have a black background when you upload/download them.

What are your experiences with buying stuff from WW's lacemarket account? I realise it depends on the item, but generally, is the damage that bad? Would it be a worthwile purchase if you don't have a lot of experience fixing dresses up?

>>9762165
I have only bought stuff worth ~35$ and honestly everything has been worth it. I'm an old school fag though and I have gotten few early 2000 pieces which were better shape than usually. If it has missing buttons the changes are it's in better shape than the ones with stains or discoloration. Of course, it's a bit of a gamble but if you have basic cleaning skills and don't expect too much it's worth it.

>>9762121
That seems scammy. You should ALWAYS ship to the address on Paypal. It's relatively easy for buyers to add a new address at checkout, and if she was moving, she should have told you in advance.

I would contact Paypal with screencaps of her requesting you to send it to a different address, any threats, etc.
You might be out the dress, but there might be a way for you to prevent the chargeback.

>>9762175
Hopefully that's enough to win the dispute; I thought I was fine until I checked tracking again and it said "being forwarded" instead of "delivered" like it did a month ago.
Her excuse was that if she changed her address, the payment wouldn't go through since she hadn't changed it with the bank (which doesn't really make sense, since it's the shipping address, not the billing address that she needs to change), and since she did "put it in the notes", she didn't feel the need to let me know through messages.

I wish I had taken a screenshot of the tracking info when it had said it was delivered.

>>9761502
Elizabeth Bride of the Death perhaps?

Got a rerelease though so it's not as 'legendary-tier' anymore.

>>9761240
>>9761256
My coords aren't amazing, but I'm not ita by any means (at least I don't think). I'm mostly gothic while she's ott classic (think the million underskirts trend). Not fat or particularly ugly either, I'm average size and I think my face is fine. I'm not a model but I'm not disfigured.

I have a hunch that she starts undermining anyone who participates in the comm actively. I checked and girls who start hosting their own meets for the comm who aren't her or her close friends (she's a mod and 2 of the other mods are her best friends, I think the other mods are inactive) get posted. I think she's trying to get people to stop making their own meets so she can be the focus. I got posted when I created the meet that I was the host of, and my friend got posted when she hosted one too. I think this girl just wants to be queen of the comm.

i wonder why people even use paypal, it seems it offers no seller protection if the seller doesn't live in the usa

>>9762241
Are you Canadian by chance and does this person live in the Ontario region?
s2g if you say yes this will be the easiest game of guess who lmao.

>>9761597
Also OP of the secret thread, and no, I don't know who that girl is. Sorry

>>9761871
OP here, I'm not dutch sorry!

>>9762241
lmao you sound so fucking paranoid. Either name this person or shut the fuck up.

>>9762246
>>9762250
Thanks for clearing that up.

>>9762261
I already said I wouldn't do that. I don't want anyone else to get blamed hence I'm clearing it up. I just wanted to know what I could do in light of it. If the consensus is 'there's not much you can do aside from publicly shame her', then I don't want to do that, it'll bring me down to her level. Karma will get her, or at least I will wait until it does.

>>9761424
cats tea party

>>9761989
Are you actually retarded or..? That was true maybe 3 years ago but not now

>>9762120
It's kind of hard for me to tell. Is Dream Marine in teal or "green" or whatever?

>>9762281
Anon pls respond >>9762245

>>9761678
i have met her just one day when i visited the comm, she was super welcoming and so sweet to me. i have a reeeally hard time thinking she would do something like this. she seems chill and down to earth and very non judgemental.

>>9761471
i would say Elizabeth OP by Btssb is a legendary dress because of the movie.

>>9762306
I agree with everything else you said but
>non-judgemental
As long as you agree with her SJW-tier political beliefs maybe

>>9762306
Do you have a lot of followers on social media?

>>9762310
Isn’t someone selling this dress for $945 on FB right now?

>>9762325
I am friends with her and have different political opinions but she never judged me for it. She is really not judgemental and a total sweetheart.

>>9762281
Can you please admit that you don't know for sure this person posted you and you're just assuming they did?

Like did they post anon or not. If they posted anon you probably have no idea who it is that posted you.

Can you please give us better details besides you're just pretty sure someone in your comm doesn't like you?

a lot of this Dutch & paranoid-chan talk should be moved
>>9752891

not good for the gen
>and no one cares

>>9762297
Please don't try to buy into some anons wild claims until you have evidence. God forbid you're a comm mod or someone that has real influence over your comm. Do the right thing and ignore an anonymous claim.

>>9762242
old news
a lot of europeans use direct bank transfer or other payment methods

>>9762296
It's labeled green, but it does look closer to a teal or turquoise color.

>>9762413
>direct bank transfer

imo it's the best, you still can get chargeback, but unlike how it's with paypal it's much harder to do it to scam somebody

>>9762417
and you often don't have to pay extra for it

>>9762413
>direct bank transfer
What year is it again?

>>9762297
No, sorry. Not from Ontario.

I thought my initial post was vague enough, but since it seems people are dealing with similar situations to me, I'm not going to say yes/no about anyone else. I'd feel awful if someone got targeted just because I said. Again, I don't want to bring this girl down in flames or anything, I just want her meddling to be brought to light, which it will be in time.
I'm really sorry for stirring things up accidentally. I really don't want drama to occur because of some random anon posting about being posted to cgl

>>9762402
I already said I was 90% sure (or I think I did). I've admitted this. But from what my friends have said recently, they're sure it's her, I trust them, no matter what any anon on here says.

Would this be the place to ask about identifying an item since there isn't a specific thread for it? Lolibrary isn't giving me anything.

>>9762524
Sure, go for it.

>>9762442
Yeah but how do they know?

If you and your friends think you know who is posting- then you're delusional and your claims will never be taken seriously.

>>9762526
I know it's Innocent World but that's about it

>>9762436
>I'd feel awful if someone got targeted just because I said
And yet you're 90% sure you're right about something and willing to let someone get taken out based off your accusations without any hard evidence?

Why are you letting your own personal paranoia get the best of you to the point where it would effect someone else's life?

You realize anyone could have posted you right? They might not have even been a Lolita.

>>9762537
Innocent World Romantic Rose Skirt
>https://lolibrary.org/items/iw-romantic-rose-skirt

>>9762546
Bless you anon

>>9762537
Here you go: https://lolibrary.org/items/iw-romantic-rose-skirt

>>9762551
You're welcome. I actually like really love tracking stuff down on Lolibrary so it was fun.

>>9762534
That's rich since anyone will take anything for fact here. I've seen people hate girls just because someone said xyz about them, and people take it without even questioning. Of course, cgl is no hivemind, but a lot of people form their opinions from what they see here, especially if the person is efamous or has rumours surrounding them. It doesn't matter anyway, since I'm not going to give up her details or mine.

>>9762538
I said I know since it's access to information only certain people know. It's not someone posting me to the ita thread and being like 'lol she ugly'. And like I said, it happened to my friends too, we managed to see who knew what, and found out like that. Again, not 100% sure since it's anon. Never going to be completely sure, someone from a different country could have taken several wild guesses about our personal lives that turned out to be true, but that seems unlikely.

>>9762245
Anon already said it's not voldie, plus none of the mods in SOL are OTT classic.

>>9762559
Then go to the mods of your comm. Why did you even post about this here?

>>9762559
Oh my God you are insufferable and of I knew you I would probably also post about you. Nobody cares this chick posted about you and you trying to get attention here without naming the person isn't doing you any favors.

People post, shit happens, either name them or move on, you are literally not contributing anything of value

>>9762685
I know right? I wish I knew who they were- I'd post their stupid ass too if this is how they actually behave.

>>9762685
>getting attention
>on an anonymous board
oh yes that must be it, and not that I wanted to vent and get advice. I'm posting a lolita related topic, so it's fine to post about. Untuck your wedgie already.

>>9762690
Good job.

What thread were you and your friends posted to exactly?

Its not the ita thread so I'm guessing cringe thread? Bad make up? Why else would be upset about being posted?

>>9762690
You've already gotten plenty of advice saying to ignore it, talk to a mod, quit whining, kill her with kindness, etc. It's just not stuff you want to hear.

You just want to hear someone saying how in the right you are and how awful this person is, how you're a victim and they are efamous and there's nothing you can do over and over.

Tell us who or from what area they are from. Shit or get off the pot.

>>9762700
How much you wanna bet they're a larper and this didn't actually happen to that anon. But it does happen to other anons so it comes across as a legitimate story.

>>9762706
>>9762700
>>9762695
Let's find this bitch and post her so she can whine about it elsewhere.

>>9762735
Fuck yeah. That'll teach that bitch not to post here.

Does anyone handwash or machine wash pieces which say on the care label not to get wet/dry clean only? Specifically asking in reference to polyester AP printed pieces, but any experience will do.
I have a few dresses to clean but I'm not sure if its worth the trip (and expense) to a reputable dry cleaner or if I'm able to just handwash them and call it a day, since i've only worn them once and there's no stains or such.

Heads up, gulls, IW is having a questionnaire about a Lotta rerelease starting this Friday.

>>9763104
I'm not really big on IW but why is it called Lotta? Is that the name of the deer?

>>9762421
1996

>>9763026
All of my Moitie says no water, I machine wash everything except for Ruins Cathedral and a pair of printed socks in 40C. Glittery prints loose their glitter but I don't care about that. Drip water on the backside of hems and similar places to see how the fabric and print reacts to water

>>9763105
It's called that because you're going to have to spend a whole Lotta money if you want it.

>>9763118
Moitie from like 2005 on seems to be nigh indestructible unless you do something to melt a screenprint, with the white on black prints being the most fragile.

>>9763120
Caarloos

>>9762735
>>9762779
Nayrt but you're so fucking dumb, as if anyone is going to out themselves as to who they are.
>hurr how dare someone post on cgl, I say, as I post on cgl

>>9763177
I think they were being sarcastic.

>>9763026
I wash almost everything in the washing machine, my polyester pieces rarely bleed.
The only items that ever bled were some old Btssb cotton dresses, but handwashing them in cold water and immediately changing the water until it is clear again helped a lot.

When japonica says they aren't taking new customers because they are too busy, will they still take a new order from a returning customer?

>>9763228
Better not order with them in the first place.

>>9763230
Oh great, what's wrong with them? I've been using japonica for my last 3 mercari orders with no problems...

>>9763104
first the elizabeth rerelease now this my poor fucking wallet

>>9763238
I dropped them myself, because they would be super slow (like reacting 24+ hours later) missing out on items or just forgetting to bid on them /buy them.
Other than that, I regularly see someone posting about their bad experience on cgl or facebook.
They simply have too many orders/customers.

>>9762421
Why wouldn't you use the free method?

>>9759107
Is Jupiter worth seeing live? I have a chance to see them and it would be a nice opportunity to wear Lolita anyway.

>>9763118
>>9763217
Okay, sounds pretty safe then. I've spot tested one dress, seems completely fine but I'm still really paranoid. I'll probably just go for handwashing first then try gentle machine wash.
Thanks anons

>>9763104
Please. I love Lotta.

>>9763250
Yikes, ok I will look for another service while they are too busy.

>>9763286
Do that. I'm still super salty I lost a super cheap Honey Cake bear necklace because of them. It was on mbok with still 2 days to go and only one other bidder (shortly before end even). They just forgot to bid.
After that I've been contacting them, Tenshi and another SS to buy from mercari simultaneously to see how fast they would react. Guess what, Japonica was by far the slowest.
And I'm not even starting about their horrible customer service.

>>9763287
Aaaaggh that really sucks, especially because those necklaces don't really seem to pop up too often. What a bummer...

>>9763291
It could've been my best deal, really. It was a small auction on the now-deserted mbok with a whole bunch of other AP jewelry for 6,500 yen and the Honey Bear necklace was just hiding in the pile. The necklace alone goes for much more than that.

>>9763260
I saw them in Europe with Masashi and Yuki and it was definitly worth it!

Gulls i have a question
My mother has been a professional tailor for 45 years, she's specialized in "dentelle" (lace i think ?) and crinoline dresses (i'm trying to describe the best i can)
Would you you consider buying a dress made for you (paterns of your choice+custom fit) if the quality is here, but not the name of a big brand?

>>9763301
yeah. lolitas like exceptional handmade and indie.
just post samples of her work (closeups/detail shots too), and have her make a facebook page or something.
I, for one, only like things with a fitted bodice and a large hem circ. for that lolita silhouette. I don't really fuck around with square dance or sock hop style dresses.

>>9763301
You should look up some other indie brands, anon. I think people would gladly buy custom made dresses.

>>9763309
Depends on the price, but yes it's something I'd be interested in for sure

>>9763309
>>9763313
>>9763324
That's great if people are willing to buy. It's just an idea for now, but we're probably going to make 6-7 sample dress and set up a website.

>>9763260
Yes they are very experienced musicians and the stage costumes are usually great

>>9763301
I guess it depends on where you are (competition, size of local comm). Pic related is from Linda Friesen, who isn't a lolita designer but made this for darkromantica.

>>9763350
We're in France

>>9760160
jfc i haven't been on cgl in an entire year and this shit is still getting brought up? sasuga seagulls

New ETC

>>9763177
As >>9763195 said, it wasn't serious. Anything to get them to shut their trap over something that isn't all that interesting without the details.

>>9763374
Interesting choice in the wine, but I'm guessing it's for the Chinese.

>>9763389
Ominous blood red skies are now kawaii apparently.

>>9763409
Looks Christmassy to me.

>>9763350
dang thats kawaii

>>9763389
I keep seeing stuff about how "red colourways are for chinese lolitas",but can someone explain me WHY?

>>9763428
>inb4 communism

>>9763428
someone on cgl probably claimed that Chinese lolitas love red/wine colourways and now other gulls are parroting that

>>9763428
Not sure but red is a lucky color in china and wa has becoming more popular recently so they might like red more, that may be it?

>>9763428
I mean....

>>9763428
Red means good luck, that’s why relatives will give you „red envelopes“ with money on chinese new years.

>>9763428
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture
Was that really hard? Come on anon.

>>9763435
>>9763451
>>9763452
I already knew that. 7 is considered a lucky number,and four leaved clovers are a symbol for good luck,yet I don't see westerners wearing those thing often?

>>9763455
This is a lolita thread and you are getting off topic.

>>9763455
I'm Irish and Filipino but it'd be cool to have a st.pattys dress

>>9763434
Lucky me

>>9763457
no you are

>>9763455
Yeah but westernes are not the same as asian people soo?

did this children's brand rip off jane marple

thread is about to sage but I broke one of the heart buckles on a pair of my BL shoes a while back, and I've been needing to borrow a working buckle from my other pair.

anyone know where I could buy a pack of heart buckles with snaps? I'd love to have some extras around

>>9763260

Saw them in Tokyo, totally worth it.

why do people still call her an ageplayer when she makes it clear she's not?

>>9763552
seconded, but for the rounds - I was suggested to check local craft stores but didn't find anything

>>9763552
I doubt you'll be able to find any in store if you live in the US, so I would try looking around on taobao? You can ask in that thread what search term to use.

>>9763679
Noone really cares about Peachie nowadays.

>>9763301
I 100% would! Approx cost and contact deets please?

>>9763679
People here are just so fucking obsessed with ageplay, honestly imo peachie is one of the least likely to be into ageplay in these communities. Just in the way she conducts herself and her maturity you can tell she doesn't have a part of that.

People are even trying to call pixielocks (Jillian Vessey) out on her "ageplay", but if you look at people who *are* actually into ageplay (yumi king) there is a pretty discernable difference between their mannerisms.

Going to Japan for two weeks and I want to bring one coord with me but everyone else just says not to because 'You're gonna buy sooo muchh' and I don't really see any advice online about packing J-fashion for Japan trips.

So any anons who've gone to Japan with lolita/cosplay able to give me some tips?

>>9763842
Agreed, I just don't understand why cgl has this obsession with labelling her as such. I knew she hadn't said she was an ageplayer.

>>9763856
I hate to say it, but if you’re planning on shopping, you are going to buy a lot. There’s lots of good stuff there, and I always end up with more than I planned to buy.

I force myself to take only one medium-large sized suitcase, as there are planets of places in the major cities that don’t have escalators/ elevators, and you will have to be able to carry your bag up and down flights of stairs. I had one trip of hauling multiple bags, and I swore never to do it again.

It also depends on when you are going. I have visted and brought lolita with me in the summer, but coming from a cold climate I was not used to the hot weather and felt too ugly and sweaty to wear lolita. I later visited in the spring, and I did pack one coord with me and wear it without any issues.

I can give some more advice, but all in all, I would say leave the coord. You’ll be thankful for the space in your bag, and you’ll be having so much fun that I don’t think you’ll miss having it. Personally, I just pack a few shirts, a few skirts, some tights/ socks, one pair of pants, and one sweater (plus underwear). Everything else can be purchased while you’re there, and it’s kind of fun to update your wardrobe. Additionally I try to stay at places where I can do laundry at least once.

>>9763856
I hate to say it, but if you’re planning on shopping, you are going to buy a lot. There’s lots of good stuff there, and I always end up with more than I planned to buy.

I force myself to take only one medium-large sized suitcase, as there are plenty of places in the major cities that don’t have escalators/ elevators, and you will have to be able to carry your bag up and down flights of stairs. I had one trip of hauling multiple bags, and I swore never to do it again.

It also depends on when you are going. I have visted and brought lolita with me in the summer, but coming from a cold climate I was not used to the hot weather and felt too ugly and sweaty to wear lolita. I later visited in the spring, and I did pack one coord with me and wear it without any issues.

I can give some more advice, but all in all, I would say leave the coord. You’ll be thankful for the space in your bag, and you’ll be having so much fun that I don’t think you’ll miss having it. Personally, I just pack a few shirts, a few skirts, some tights/ socks, one pair of pants, and one sweater (plus underwear). Everything else can be purchased while you’re there, and it’s kind of fun to update your wardrobe. Additionally I try to stay at places where I can do laundry at least once.

>>9763856
well you need to have clothes to wear there before you've bought new ones........

>>9763872
You know you can ship your luggage right? Usually next day delivery. Or on arrival, take the bus from the airport to a hotel, then taxi to wherever you’re staying. Then no hauling luggage on the train

Does anyone know if Brightlele is worth it? I am looking for some casaul/classic lolita wigs.

>>9763924
they look cute, I might give them a try

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>>9763842
it's a recent obsession too.. I don't remember it being like this a few years ago

>>9763455
Because Chinese people have more of their culture based around their monarch? We get cross dresses. The Chinese get red colorways.

>>9763982
weird thinking

>>9763856
Definitely wear j fashion, but pack a suitcase in your suitcase and try to maximize your outfits with combinations. Just plan on doing laundry. It's awesome to dress cute while traveling and shopping, the shop girls like you a lot more if you're wearing their brand or are dressed nicely in other j fashions. Plus you get really cute photos of yourself in Japan!

>>9763856
I would say leave it, or just bring a petticoat/blouse, or a couple things you *know* are definitely going to match what you'll buy (e.g. pink shoes and bag for sweet). But in that case, ensure with those items you're bringing you're not going to buy anything similar while you're there because that will defeat the purpose.

Definitely planning is the most important part, really think about any new releases you'd like to buy or plan what kind of dresses you'll pick up if you see them in CC or such - obviously just get what you like, but if you can try to prepare in advance for pieces you want to see and buy with anything that you're going to bring to accompany it. If you *really* know what you want to buy then bring some things, but if you're just going to be buying whatever then probably dont.

It will also really depend on what kind of things you're doing for your trip, and what kind of person you are. Personally, I'm someone who cant be fucked to get dressed up for touristy things, places which require a lot of walking or outdoorsy things, or even if i just want to go ham on shopping. If you like to be dressed up, and if you're not going to be doing many "inconvenient" things then maybe bring one coord or a couple of basics like i mentioned earlier. If you're going to be spending more time in shorts, joggers and a backpack then probably dont bother because you'll be buying a lot of shit.

I'm assuming you're going relatively soon where the weather wont be an issue, but if you're going in summer pretty much forget about wearing lolita, and dont bring anything besides a petti and maybe a blouse if you're really insistant on wearing it. Chances are you'll feel too sweaty and disgusting, and your hair will go to shit in the humidity (just like mine did) and it wont really be worth it.

>t. went to japan in summer, wore lolita once and had to wash everything and my hair looked like shit. also brought a piece i didn't end up wearing that had inbuilt petti.

>>9763872
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>>9763994
>>9764007

Thanks guys, I'm going in the late fall/winter but I want to get a general idea of packing j-fashion. I know I'll be buying somethings maybe even enough to fill another suitcase but I can't miss the chance to wear J-fashion on this trip. We'll be staying in Tokyo the entire time and be doing light to heavy shopping and just stuffing our faces tbqh.

>>9763350
How much does she typically charge these days? I couldn't find the info anywhere, and I don't want to send a request before I have a ballpark idea of what to expect.

I remember one of hers back in 13' I think was $500?

>>9761964
still trying to find this one myself

>>9763856
I travel to Tokyo a few times a year and I have a few tips, but I wonder, which season are you traveling in?

I recommend packing a large suitcase, then placing a slightly smaller suitcase nestled inside like this anon said >>9763994. In your small suitcase pack your basics, but understand things like shampoo and conditioner are very easy to find there or provided by your hotel. You don't need to pack that type of stuff. Pack a bunch of space saving bags that you can put your clothes in and squeeze the air out of to maximize suitcase space.

You'll need a comfortable normie outfit to travel in on your flight which can double for sight-seeing like jeans, athletic shoes, and a hoodie. I usually have a med-small bag I carry onto the flight with my passport, hotel address, and a black pen. Then bring a cute fashion purse, one or two casual j-fash outfits in similar colors, a small and light pair of go-to j-fash shoes in your preferred color, a petticoat/blouse/hair accessory in your preferred color, and undergarments. Try not to use more than two space saving bags flying over, then be prepared to use around 4 or 5 for whatever you bring back. An empty shoe box can hold your accessories when you return. It depends on your hotel, but mine usually have a yukata and I sleep in it.

When it's time to head to the airport you can try to manage your bags, but since I'm tiny and travel alone, I just have my bags sent to the airport from my hotel. It usually costs me around 3,500 yen, but I don't want to bother with it in busy train stations with stairs or rush hour. Talk to your hotel about it when you arrive and see when you'd need to turn in your bags and how much it would cost for you. If you have more questions you can ask and I'll try to answer. I travel internationally at least twice a year and I'm getting better at travel tips.

>>9764018
Oh, sorry now I see when you're going. Wear a cute lolita coat on the plane and use it as your winter coat.

>>9763856
Never been to Japan, but traveled abroad. Sage advice from my Mom: Pack less buy more.

>>9763982
what monarch? the one they deposed?
lmao, thinking mainlanders have any culture left at all.