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>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I buy them because I can make more versatile coords with them, from very casual to OTT
>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Sakura Tea Time
>What are your favourite things about skirts?
That they are cheaper

I'd really love to buy more skirts for the versatility, but holy shit a lot of them are tiny! I have a fairly normal sized waist at 64 cm and the one innocent world skirt I own barely fits.

>>9767961
Is it an old release? I've always been fine with a 71 cm waist. I don't have any unshirred skirts from IW though.

>>9767961
That’s strange to me, most IW skirts I own have shirring, maybe the particular skirt you have runs small?

I personally love skirts because they’re very versatile like >>9767957 said. They’re also easier to wear daily.

>>9767961
A lot of old school skirts are tiny, but most of the modern ones should fit you just fine. I was personally very surprised when trying on Die Walkure which is pretty old that the skirt is as big as it is. I have the same waist measurement as you and it's so big that it sits a good few centimeters below my waist. It's listed as 68cm online but I'm pretty certain that's a min rather than a max waist.

>>9767944
I don't buy them because I hate how my torso looks in just a blouse. Jsks and ops are just more flattering to me.

>Why are brands releasing less of them?
Skirts are the more downgraded and casual version of the dress counterpart. Since the current trend is more OTT it's less skirts overall. Skirts also have a stigma of being too small (though many brands have improved in recent years).
>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I own many skirts and I like them because they feel more casual.
>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Many. I am skinny but have broad shoulders so many unshirred dresses mainly of the classic and otome brands just don't fit me right.
>What are your favourite things about skirts?
I can coord them in a fairly normie way. They are good travel clothes as they take up less space in a suitcase. I don't have to worry so much about getting them dirty/cleaning them, since they are cheaper. And they don't have as much details such as lace so they don't get stuck in places as easily as dresses. When I come home I just exchange the blouse for a sweater and ditch the petticoat and I'm comfy af. Some dresses can be uncomfortable after a while and can't be turned into convenience clothes.
>What is your favourite skirt coord?
I really like pic related.

I would buy more skirts but I feel the same way as >>9767990 does, & I feel like most lolita cutsews just look kind of childish. Fitted knitted tops such as pic related look best on me, but brands don't release them often. Anyone know where best to look for them? (Especially if they have 3/4 sleeves)

I'm a fat so I never bothered with skirts. I knew even if I could get them on they'd look like shit.

There is one cut of skirt that I think could look good on me. I don't know if the term is just high waisted skirt or what. But basically the style that is high waisted with a thick top band. Often there is corset lacing in the front or back. But I wear 100% sweet and I don't think I've ever seen this style in sweet. It's way more common in classic I think.

>pear shape so anything that accents the waist is good for me

>>9768015
Why do you have to wear a cutsew with a skirt? I can't relate to >>9767990 because my boobs are really big, so skirts look much more flattering on me. I have 3/4 sleeve knitted tops from Jane Marple and MILK but they don't release them that often either.

>>9768022
I always thougt skirts looked better on fat people. Don't they do a better job of accentuating the waist than dresses do?

>>9767961
This is mostly a thing with old school skirts but it’s true for some modern ones, too. I’ve been trying to sell some skirts from 2016-2017 that max out at 70cm and nobody’s buying because of those measurements. Meanwhile the JSK cuts of those same releases go up to like a 85cm waist.

>>9768028
For me personally I hate how they look when I sit. Because it's pretty obvious how the waist band is digging into your chub . The wide band skirts do a better job at hiding your fupa and smoothing things out. Otherwise I'd say normal skirts make you look kind of lumpy if you are heavier.

>>9768026
I'm not saying you have to, I'm just saying that apart from blouses they're usually the only kind of top available from lolita brands.

I think the western market also had it part in decrease of skirt popularity. I remember all the blogs that gave "tips" about lolita said that "skirts are not good for a first coord, cause they are too difficult".

>>9768028
Skirts accentuate my waist in the worst way.
I'm a fairly small person (156cm ~50kg) but very tubelike, with hardly any difference between my b-w-h measurements. So when I try to wear a skirt with a blouse, all the added bulk at my waist makes me look even wider. It draws a lot of bad attention there.

I wear less poofy skirts more casually, though.

Well fitted JSKs and OPs without shirring accentuate my waist the best.

>>9768032
I might be interested anon, are they on lacemarket?

>>9767944
I just bought a couple skirts, I hate coording them. So much harder than jsks to make look nice. The ones I got I want to wear with normie clothes as daily wear, I don't have a lot of normie stuff. I prefer classic and gothic skirts but sweet is good for casual

>Why are brands releasing less of them?
I guess they just don't sell as well since OTT is the trend right now? I feel like AP is the only brand that has drastically stopped making skirts. Who else has?

>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
they're cheap enough to buy new that I never have to pay customs. I hardly ever buy new dresses unless they're on sale because I don't want to pay customs, but with skirts I never have to worry. Also they're more versatile and casual yada yada. I also don't think they're really that hard to coord at all, people say that a lot to deter newbies but I see so many cute skirt coords that are just are just simple stuff like >>9767954 and look really effortlessly pretty and put together. I'd argue that they're easier to coord than jsks because you don't have to deal with conflicting necklines.

>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Same as >>9767957 Sakura Tea Time. The print is really cute but the dress cuts are just far too OTT for me to ever wear. Also Lady Victorian Rose Jewellery for the same reasons.

>>9768204
>Who else has?
Emily Temple Cute almost never releases a skirt these days, and when they do, it's more like an underskirt or something.
Juliette et Justine has like 5 times as many dresses as skirts now.
Moitie didn't do a skirt for Neo Gothic Arch even though the original Gothic Arch release did have skirts. I don't follow that brand though so I don't know if they make less skirts in general.

>>9768221
I just checked Leur Getter and they don't even have any skirts

I've been buying from brands way less because of the lack of availability of skirts. I tend to like them better than dresses because I rarely like the bodice/cut of JSKs/OPs, skirts are less expensive, they're more versatile, and although I'm slim so fit is rarely an issue, if a skirt doesn't fit I can tailor a its waistband at home to fit me, whereas a dress I'd have to take to a tailor.

>>9767944
I don't wear skirts cuz I can't button up blouse in the chest area. I always just leave that button out. You don't noticed that under a jsk.

I want to like skirts but when I wear them with a blouse tucked in the blouse keeps riding up and it doesn't become fully untucked but it puffs up above the waist of the skirt, and it looks frumpy af. Constantly retucking the blouse is awkward and annoying. Does anyone else know how to deal with this? I have a pretty tiny waist so I think that may be part of the problem

>>9768538
wear a tanktop under so your blouse has something to grip to, and tuck both blouse and undershirt into your bloomers.

>>9768435
fatty fat fat ugly fat

>>9768538
You could use something like pic related to keep your blouse from riding up

>>9767944
>Why are brands releasing less of them?
As others have said, OTT rules supreme and lolitas are too lazy. I think the Chinese lolitas have a lot to do with it, though. They don't really seem to do casual lolita, and skirts have a close link to casual and more toned down looks.

>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I love skirts! I buy a lot of them, especially because they're super cheap secondhand.

>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Meta's Voyage in Memory, hands down. (I'm still looking for the navy and black colourways of that btw. If anyone knows where I can find them...)

>What are your favourite things about skirts?
I love their comfort and versatility. And I love that a good vest basically turns a skirt into a jsk!

>What is your favourite skirt coord?
Pic related. Normally unmatched blues would make me rage but somehow I absolutely love this.

>>9767944
>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I am tall and skirts mean I don't have to worry about the bodice of a dress being too short for my torso, plus as the length of a skirt is often a given measurement, it's just generally easier for me to find ones that fit m properly than finding dresses that do. I also think hey have more versatility for everyday outfits than dresses (although JSKs are pretty versatile too)

>>9768013
skirts asied, where can i find cameo chokers of similar good quality?

>>9768435
Wtf? Why don't you just buy blouses that fit?

>>9768538
It's not a common problem for me but when it happens I tuck my blouse in my tights or bloomers.

>>9768945
I've seen a lot of Chinese lolitas in town wearing a brand lolita skirt with normie clothes giving 0 fucks.

>>9769078
> why don't you just buy a blouse that fits
Nayrt but if anon has a big difference between their bust and waist measurements it probably isn't that easy. Even in normie wear it seems the option is to get something that looks flattering everywhere else but has trouble over the chest or something obviously too big that'll button over the chest. Yes alterations exist but those cost money. It can be easier to just hide the problem area altogether.

>>9767944
>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I barely own any skirts because I have digestive issues that make a lot of elastic around my midsection uncomfortable, and these same issues cause me to bloat which can make the discomfort into pain. I sometimes wear garter belts to clip my petticoats onto so they hang and my bloomers I can fit on my hips. Oddly enough a corset doesn’t give me the same discomfort, but actually helps because it spreads out the strain. With the corset I am going to give it a try to wear the ones I have more. If that works I may consider buying a few more of them.

>>9768032
Link me friend. 63 cm waist and I am all about skirts.

>>9769102
It is easy on lolita, tons of blouses have full back shirring

>>9768435
Iktf, I usually pin mine to the lining or tuck it in my tights or bloomers, otherwise it poofs up. You might want to alter the waistbands of the skirts to tighten them too. I also wear a lot of bustiers on top so I don't have to deal with it. There's a way of double tucking men's dress shirts that I'm going to try next time I wear a skirt.
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Not that anon, but it's not a fat or busty problem for me. I'm a AAA cup with a small waist and everything rides up unless I rig it.

>>9769154
Maybe I’m buying the wrong ones but none of mine have back shirring. Not that I think it would help the button gap I get.

>>9769176
I'd try something like pic related. If you wear sweet or old school, Maxicimam has cotton blouses that go up to 120 cm bust.
And people wear a tank top under a blouse, if only to hide bra lines.

>>9769109
I have this exact same problem anon, it sucks because sometimes I'd like to show off the detailing on my blouses more or wear cute skirts in other fashions. I hope trying out the corset works for you!

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have you considered using a belt, corset or bustier

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>>9768971
This is adorable, it'd be a perfect casual outfit for a weekend in Paris or something.

Can anyone tell me if Moitie skirts will fit a 66cm waist?
I've been holding off from buying Moitie skirts cause I'm afraid they won't fit.

>>9770930
It really depends, Moitie is all over the place with sizing and their own measurements are often wrong. I own two, Ruined Cathedral and older Rosenkreuz one (from 2005?). Ruined Cathedral would fit up to 68cm but the older one is max 64cm. Older Moitie I'd approach with caution.

>>9770930
I have a non-print Moitie skirt that's 61cm anon. I think it really varies like >>9770936 says. The best you can do is ask around for a specific skirt if you can't find measurements.

>>9770930
nearly all of them will fit you

>>9767944
I finally got my hands on the holy lantern skirt, For a good price too seeing as its been re-released god knows how many times now, I love skirts and I cant wait to coord it

>Why are brands releasing less of them?
Like every other anon has said, OTT is the default now and skirts

>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
They are cheaper, and often smaller/shorter than dresses which is great because I'm super short. They are really versatile and can be dressed up or down easily

>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
fancy hospital, I love the print but all the cuts look really unflattering. It would of perfect for casual coords. I even had a dream that they released it as a skirt haha

>What are your favourite things about skirts?
As I said they are super versatile! You could get a skirt with lots of detail and wear a bustier over it to a fake a jsk, you can wear really detailed blouses and show them off etc. Also they are more comfortable

>What is your favourite skirt coord?
Pic related, ive been after the misty sky skirt (black) forever now

A minor problem with me with skirts is I can never leave well enough alone, for a lack of a better term. I'm constantly pulling up from habit and to make sure I don't show off anything, then I have to be mindful of not pulling up TOO much to have the length of the skirt wrong, and bloomers showing etc., then have to pull it back down. Rinse and repeat. With a jsk the length is pretty much determined for you, and you don't have to worry about it. Not a deal breaker, but it does make it a little annoying.

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See >>9769458

>>9767944

>>Why are brands releasing less of them?
I think that's been discussed in the thread, but in short, OTT doesn't go well with skirts, so less skirts overall
>>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I love skirts! They're an easy way to pad the wardrobe, and with the right tops and outerwear can look very put together. I love the challenge of skirts, but I also love their versatility. I also like to use them at work for a toned down look.
>>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Honestly, I'm unsure. I think I'm happy with the prints I bought. I might go for BTSSB's gloria long skirt though, that looks fun to coord as I am not really a fan of their OP/JSK cuts.
>>What are your favourite things about skirts?
Versatility! Love using different combos with them, even different bodices.
>>What is your favourite skirt coord?
Pic related. It was hard choosing, but Fanny Rosie gives me such inspirations for skirt coordinates.

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>>9767944
I love skirts! my wardrobe is roughly half skirts, half jsks/OPs.

>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Guilty Meltin Sweets Town BUT with the side bustle, like on JSK I. fucking. yes.
also Classical Petit Rose and Moon and Higanbana.
i like mostly shirred skirts because comfy and nice fit though

>>9771113
I'll give that a shot next time. Thanks!

>>9771117
I thought Gloria did get released as a skirt?

>>9771132
I love fully shirred skirts too. I have started to buy more bustiers and lolita appropriate belts because of it.

>>9767944
>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
Violet Tea, Favorite Bunny, Flamingo Ocean and Meow all from Emily Temple Cute

>>9773070
Any belt recommendations? I usually wear my skirts with a blouse+belt and I can't seem to find any really nice ones, only the wide ones with the bow which look cheap.

>>9771019
I would've loved fancy hospital as a skirt too. I think the cutsew OP could work for casual as well if you layer it.

>>9767944
>>Why are brands releasing less of them?
Nobody buys them

>>Why do/don't you buy skirts?
I like buying skirts cause I have boobs but can otherwise fit into brand. So I buy a brand skirt and just wear some off-brand blouse

>>Which print would you have bought if it was released as a skirt?
There aren't really any; I mean I still buy JSKs and OPs

>>What are your favourite things about skirts?
More options in coordinating, fits better

>>What is your favourite skirt coord?
My dumb vampire cat coordinate with Rosy Masquerade. It's stupid but it's fun

>>9773327
Mine are from Victorian Maiden and Jane Marple.

new aatp skirt

>>9767944

Hypothetically, if I were to alter a Moitie skirt (from fixed waistband to a partially elastic one), how much would that decrease the value overall of the skirt? I'm plus-sized but not quite landwhale

>>9779683
Wouldn’t you need to alter the skirt too? The issue is that when you are bigger you need more fabric to achieve the same look. Skirts from moitie are tiny at 62-66 max so I get needing to alter the waist but if you are a bunch bigger you will need to add a panel in the skirt as well. skirts are the cheapest because it’s small so I don’t think you can kill the value much but adding a panel will.

>>9779683
If you have to increase it more than a couple cm you'll have to add fabric to the skirt body. Moitie uses a lot less material than AP or other sweet brands, so there's significantly less room to let material out while keeping the shape.

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You have good points that I didn't think of so I'll probably pass on doing that then. Thanks for pointing that out!

>>9779795
Maybe you could alter one of their long skirts more easily

>>9779651
Dammit, why am I so broke? I need this.