/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9822781
I've been wanting this thread for a while but I don't have enough decent pics, so I'll dump what I have.

I really love the colors on this one.

>>9823679
Matching with yourself why not.

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>>9823697
This one just makes me sad since they broke up...

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>>9823703
Not a couple but the look great.

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>>9823711
End of the dump.
This one may not be perfect but find it so cute.

>>9823679
I love them

>>9822781
>>9823682
LOVE THIS

>>9823708
No one can tell me that dude isn't a real vampire.

>>9822781
The guy sorta looks like Gordon Ramsey.

>>9823682
This is giving me the ‘twins from bioshock’ vibe amazing

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>>9823715
I don't know why but I love this one.

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>>9822781
>tfw no ouji accessory to dress up and be cute with

Love this thread though

>>9824649
this thread making my heart go all doki doki fuck you guys

>>9824649
I have many pictures of lolita/lolita matching couples but they feel more like twining coords so I only dumped the ones with female/male matching coords.

>>9822781
this thread better not turn me fucking gay you guys

>>9823708
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>>9824820
god bless you anon, 10/10

>>9824649
goals

>>9824692
Lolita/lolita couples are clearly the superior pick. We want more gay content.

>>9823689
This is gorgeous

>>9823699
well yeah, being in a homosexual relationship is not normal

I can't wait to do this kinda stuff with my fiancé. He wants to twin me in the same dress but different colorways.

>>9824692
They are an actual couple, you dumpster !

>>9823704
Who is on the right?

>>9824820
I'm fucking losing it anon holy shit

>>9825109
I thought they broke up?

>>9822781
Her whites are really off and it's bothering me

>>9822781
Is that Gordon Ramsay?

>>9824853
What are you taking about, lolita x aristocrat/ouji is the master race.

>>9824820

>No big bois in the entire thread
Why can't we just agree that big bear-like men are best?

>>9825790
1. because they aren't. most of the time you hear someone call themselves a bear it's just a hairy fatty who cba to actually work out
2. because it doesn't work well in this style and you are clearly just a fat guy trying to shill your fat guy >muh bear meme to get girls to like you

>>9823784
The hair and the pose. Yesss

>>9826083
They look way better as a man desu.

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>>9826298
>that crown
>black slacks and normie shoes
>with an OTT white/beige jacket
>crushed velvet
This is a mess. Not to mention whatever she's wearing.

>>9826300
Someone requested big boi, I posted big boi. Not saying the coord is great, but it's an example of someone getting a good start. If the jacket wasn't crushed velvet I'd think it's a pretty coord for king style.

>>9823698
the one on the right is a perfect example of the face someone in extravagant male style like this should have. anything else looks plain goofy.

>>9823711
What is that wig???
Also he's gay, so they're not a couple, but they do look good together. Also I had no clue TF made menswear too. I kind of dig it more than their dresses.

>>9824649
Does anyone know how Mila does her hair like that? My hair is about the same length but I can never make it look as poofy as she does. All her hairstyles are perfection.

>>9826298
Oh, he deserves so much better than this.
>>9825792
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>9826302
Thanks for the post.
I want to dress up my man as a king but he can't be convinced of it.

>>9826371
Agreed, I love bigger guys and think it's a market in J fashion that's totally untapped. I've never been into more feminine looks for men, so a lot of ouji/Aristo looks don't appeal to me, but if there were more kings and tougher military looks for men, then I'd love it. King-kei needs to happen, especially for larger bearded dudes.

>>9826411
It can happen, so long as there are people creative and resourceful enough to wear it. Unfortunately many men are too afraid to try things like this, whether they have the creativity necessary or not.

>>9824614
The only men's outfit in the bunch I actually like. I don't know why, I love lolita but ouji always looks so silly to me. Even Sir Vampire is impeccable but just so silly.

Okay I kept scrolling, I like this one too: >>9825621

>>9826417
>Resourceful
This is the big problem here. A petite person can purchase clothing, a big guy has to be able to sew and sew well, or pay someone else for either custom construction or heavy alterations. And in the later case, they have to know who to contact to do the work.

>>9826298
>No Henry VIII costume
Missed opportunity.

>>9826426
Finding someone who can make custom clothing really isn't that difficult. Doesn't have to be on Taobao or anything similar, there's no lack of talented seamstresses who can make high quality stuff. People tend to not think very far though, if it isn't easily achievable or outright handed to them, they'll throw on whatever and "make do" while looking sloppy and silly, and then whine because they're "new" and "poor" if given suggestions on how to improve.

>>9826427
I was going to question the suggestion of a costume for a lolita event but honestly, given this OTT bullshit and how cheap and lazy people are with it, the two aren't easily distinguishable, so fair enough.

>>9825790
Ugly bastard is the worst type of man

>>9826411
Most men aren't like that in Japan though so it'll never happen in J fashion. There are some nice military looks for men though, just look at Boz.

>>9826511
Right, but just because Japan doesn't have that many people who fit the bill doesn't mean it's lacking in the west. I think it would be a great idea for a western indie brand to start something to compliment the other styles out there. And I do like a lot of Boz, they're one of the only brands making menswear that I really like. Their sizing would be lacking for big bois, though.

>>9826521
Okay, but then it isn't Jfashion, just plus sized alternative men's fashion.

>>9826525
Yeah, but there's nothing stopping a Japanese designer from trying it first and putting it under that umbrella. I think it would be a popular look in Japan as well, just the sizing would have to be tailored a little different. Plus size options are becoming more in more common in Japan as well, though; if Physical Drop can be pretty much 100% plus size then maybe Boz could do a sub line for men.

>tfw your bf is a 6' 9" giant Pacific Islander guy and will never be able to do kawaii ouji coords with you

>>9826739
>there's nothing stopping a Japanese designer from trying it first
How about the fact there's no real demand for it?
Sure, there are a few plus sized guys that want to wear ouji or aristocrat but nowhere near enough to justify a small brand catering to them. Boz and the other brands are already operating in a niche scene, plus sizes are a niche within a niche and while many people on social media cry about how much they want brand, they don't actually put their money where their mouth is so at the end of the day it's not worth it.

>>9826757
I'd love to see custom made ouji on a sexy giant like that yo.

>>9826759
>implying western money doesn't funnel into brands at a consistent rate

>>9826757
My husband is in a similar category. He does try to match me with suits or other similar formalwear, though, so it's an okay alternative for me.

>>9826767
>implying the Japanese market isn't currently mostly being supported by the Chinese
I'd love it if the western comm was more involved with the brands but you're lying to yourself if you think we're significant to them like their immediate target audience is.

>>9826780
I never discredited China's role, but one of the biggest complaints keeping more westerners from buying brand is sizing. I've heard a lot of people say they'd buy more Boz if they could fit it, and people for years said they'd love to wear VM if they fit it and then went to alternatives. There are a lot of reasons VM went under but sizing was a big part of it; even rumors of small sizing kept people from trying and when the closure was announced people were saying this stuff left and right. Alternatively, westerners eat Meta up because they know the sizing can go very large on most pieces.

tdlr: a Japanese designer could try it. If it's not successful, oh well, but what the fashion needs is more innovation. No harm in trying something new and seeing if it ends up working.

>>9825603
Fuck, I can't unsee it now

>>9826434
There's a difference I think, between a skilled seamstress and a skilled designer/seamstress.
I got a dress commissioned from one of the top theater seamstresses in my region because she's a family friend and does great work, and really elaborate peices at that.
It was the most money I had ever spent on something that looked absolutely atrocious on me.

When a custom piece will be 300+ with no precedent that it'll turn out well, it's just an easier pill to swallow that you'll just never have nice things like that.
>>9826447
My man is beautiful.

>>9826786
Baby tried it around 2008 iirc, they released a few of their "classic" designs in several sizes and it flopped, no one bought them because again, people don't put their money where their mouths are. What makes you think things will be different with Boz?

>>9826786
Or you could stop being entitled. Fat girls get told this here too. Lose weight and you'll fit into brands easier. Not fucking hard.

>>9826808

nayrt. People bought them. I know at least one who owns several of the dresses with three hearts, half were bought on release date direct from Baby. You still sometimes hear of anons seeking size L for certain dresses.

The real issue isn't that people didn't buy them, it's that there's not enough people who buy them. People are sincere and do put their money where their mouth is. It's just that this group is really small, and Baby needed hundreds of customers for each sizing in order for it to not be a flop (plus to be honest with you, their size L was barely bigger than their size M, so it's not like it made a huge difference between size M and size L). Boz is small enough to begin with, if they only needed a few people to buy their larger stuff they might still be able to make a profit over selling a tiny handful of people some larger clothes.

I'll say up front I have no horse in this race, though. I didn't pay a lot of attention to Boz before and probably won't after this; as you can tell from my choice in following btssb I'm pretty much a sweet lolita.

>>9826786

>>9826808 is right. Western fatties just like to virtue signal about how Japanese brands are oppressing them with their *tiny* sizes and don't have any real interest in actually buying the clothes that they're complaining about. Most of the people whining about VM being too small don't even wear things that remotely resemble VM, and probably wouldn't buy from VM even if they released larger sizing. I doubt Boz would be any different.

>>9826880
This.
Brands don't have to cater to non-standard sized people if they don't want to.
You can already get custom made pieces from taobao or F+F, they actually do offer a service like this.
Support those Chinese shops instead of complaining.

BTW, Baby once tried catering to larger women by creating L size after complaints.
Guess what, those complaining fatties didn't buy it cause "teehee broke" or some shit.

>>9826434

>there's no lack of talented seamstresses who can make high quality stuff

This is not always true. I have gone through absolute HELL trying to find someone to do custom clothing for me locally. I've found ONE person in my city who's decent and getting a slot with her is so difficult because she's always booked up.

....usually by fucking dance studios who want her to make a billion goddamn little show costumes for eight year olds. Yes, I'm salty.

>>9826880
I never said once that this stuff would be for me; I’m a small female. I just want to see more styles evolve alongside what we have now and advocated for King-kei. No part of saying there is a market to reach out to is being entitled at all, it’s an idea to be tried for a brand to make more money.

>>9826887
IW size L almost always sells out in both dresses and blouses (if the release is one that sells). It goes just as fast as M or S size.

>>9826887
We're not saying 'they have to' we're saying 'man, that would be nice and solve all of our problems'

>>9826884
I'd double my credit debt if Boz ever made female clothing to fit a 96cm bust.
Even if I shed every pound I physically could, there is no getting rid of my chest.

>>9823699
gays aren't meant to be together

>>9827559
>advocate for King-kei
>depending on brands this much
This is the opposite of how you break through in fashion. You want a new style? Don't wait for brands to make it, create it and wear it yourself. I'm not saying this out of spite either; lolita fashion started by girls wearing it on the streets because they wanted to, and it was picked up by brands later, not the other way around.
You want to see king-kei being a thing? Help your boyfriend/husband wear it, and wear it well. If you succeed, others will want to follow suit. There's no "advocating" needed here, just creativity and resourcefulness, like was said before.

>>9827559
IW's L size is generally not very big unless the piece in question has shirring, and most of them don't.

>>9826298
KEK.
IT IS HENRY! nice one anon

>>9824820
I don't think you understand this meme. The Chad is supposed to be ridiculous, not legitimately ideal.

>>9823699
Does this mean I have a chance?!

>>9824649
That goblin is too ugly for the blonde.

>>9831473
>Not knowing Marie
>Thinking she's anything less than perfect
I agree she doesn't suit sweeter styles as much as her more elegant coords, damn anon you really need to get your eyes checked.

>>9831486
Yes I know her, she strategically cover her massive nose on all her photoshoots.