/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

thoughts on the new KVD brow pomades even tho theyre not out yet?

It's a very vague question, but how do I get into makeup when I fuck everything up whenever I try? It's not as if I have a weird eyeshape (pic is me) but I see these insta hoes with actual visible eyeshadow and eyeliner, but I can't do it (not that I want to be an insta hoe). Since my eyelashes touch my eyebrows, mascara just prints onto my eyebrows and eyelids, you can never see my eyeshadow as it just sucks back into my eyelid, and eyeliner prints on the inside of my lid whenever I look up. Are these normal problems and I'm just being retarded or??

>>9831233
>tell new dermatologist that my last derm put me on antibiotics and all i got from it was a yeast infection
>she gives me a prescription for a different antibiotics anyways
>1.5 months later my skin actually has mostly cleared up and i've had no negative side effects
I'm worried that when I stop the antibiotic regimen that my acne is going to come back though... One night when I forgot to take my antibiotic, I broke out the next day. I still am breaking out but it's not as bad... Should I change dermatologists? I just want my skin back

>>9831357
It seems as though you have slightly hooded eyes, anon. Try looking up some hooded eye makeup tutorials. I had the same issues as you: eyelashes imprinting on the top of my socket, not seeing my eye makeup, etc. I figured out my eye shape and bam! Things got way better. Just a suggestion but I really do think you may have slightly hooded eyes.

>>9831357
Look up hooded eye makeup tutorials. You will find a style that suits your eye shape. I figured out I can't follow as many tutorials from some beauty gurus bc my eyes are round af and don't suit almond shaped looks. Although this tutorial from Lisa Eldridge really suits every eye shape imo https://youtu.be/bFTtbgNdEoI I would find eyeliner looks before eyeshadow, once you figure out the liner shape that works for you, eyeshadow will follow.

>>9831360
That sounds worrying imo, did your derm not prescribe any topicals like a retinoid? Antibiotics aren't a long term solution from what I know, you shouldn't be on them for too long. At least that's what my derm told me.

>>9831429
I've been on retenoids for a while now (like ever since my acne started) and they weren't really cutting it by themselves, in combination with the antibiotics they seem to be working a lot better but I'm pretty sure as soon as I stop taking my antibiotics all my progress will be undone. My acne only started after I left for college 3yrs ago I've literally tried everything from radically changing my diet and lifestyle to Korean skincare to the cavewoman method and I still have what would be considered moderate to severe acne... At this point I should just find a derm willing to put me on accutane so I can end this for good

>>9831537
Have you tried the clindamycin-benzoyl peroxide combo cream? If you respond well to antibiotics maybe it's better to try it in cream form...

>>9831734
Yes. I think it actually caused me more irritation (my skin has gotten a lot less red since I stopped) so I stopped using it like 6 months ago. Currently on tretenoin 0.025% and some sort of combined retenoid and clindamycin gel

In the past I have mostly bought big brand name make up for eye shadow palettes.

Like urban decay, too faced, and sugarpill.

I want to branch out but I'm not sure where to start.

I looked through devinah cosmetics and melt cosmetics. I got recommended some k beauty stuff but I've only tried etude house.

I tend to like bolder colors and would also love to find a good pink shade that actually shows up on my olive skin tone that is sometimes pale and sometimes dark because I tan easily.

What do you guys recommend and what are some more off hand brands like the ones I mentioned?

Was also thinking about getting this:
https://www.limecrime.com/face-makeup/pocket-candy-palettes/sugar-plum?via=5aa1c3e661707038590e4b86%2C5aa1c3e761707038590e4b89

>>9832102
Makeup Geek sell well priced eyeshadow pans in lots of different colours which are very pigmented.

>>9832102
Don't get lime crime. That brand has been in a bunch of scandals including having your credit card number stolen from using their website and moldy lipsticks.

>>9832102
Colourpop.

>>9832107
Ohh this is perfect!

>>9832114
I've only ever bought their stuff through Amazon.

>>9832127
I mean if you're fine with taking a high risk of getting a moldy lipstick or eyeshadow go for it. Just most people would be turned off by it.

>>9832102
>>9832118
Seconding Colourpop! I'm really pleased with their products.

>>9832130
I bought a lipstain and it was fine.

>>9832146
Okay, but that doesn't change the long history of shady business and unhygienic practices the company has had?? Enjoy your moldy lips.

>>9832160
Why are you so upset by this? Do you read a lot of blogs or something?

>>9832187
I'm not upset, but if I were
>why are you upset about a company with unhygienic and shady business practices continuing to get money

Hmm. Dunno. Sounds completely illogical, right?

I'm very pale and I'm looking for a very natural looking foundation with a light to medium coverage.
Seen a few of these cushion thingies on yesstyle, but are those any good and do you think they will be pale enough for me?
I recently bought nyx colordrops in alabaster, color is spot on, but it looks like absolute shit on my skin, it's really unnatural and gross looking.
I don't have wrinkles, blemishes, almost no scarring, no dry patches or a hairy face so I don't know why it looks so horrble, probably cause it's a cheap product?
It makes me sad cause finding a good color is so hard when you have very light skin.
Tried all kinds of applying techniques too, several primers, special foundation brushes, sponges, nothing can make it look nice.

Lots of those Korean cosmetics look really lovely so I'm dying to try.

>>9832160
Uggghhh, this!

Didn't they also use pigments that weren't approved for cosmetics?
Why would you even consider buuying from someone like that?
If I wanted some allergic reaction I'd buy my cosmetics from aliexpress kek.

>>9831395
>>9831422
I've looked at some hooded eye tutorials and they've helped so much, thank you anons! I thought that I was just doomed when it came to makeup. Do you think that it would be a good idea to follow asian make up tutorials (when they're wearing eye lid tape), as most western ones don't work as well with j fash?

>>9832192
I get it. I don't buy make up from eBay or Ali or taobao.

But you sound like one of those tiraders that needs to preach all the info on who you read about that's bad. Like that's just how you sound.

I bought a lipstain from them once and it was fine. I did not have a poor experience with them. Sorry but that was just my experience. I'm not saying it will work out for everyone or that what you're saying isn't true.

You're just fighting an unnecessary fight. They still sell products so I'm not sure what good you are doing about it making anon posts.

That's great that you identified a baddie. Good for you anon.

I linked that make up palette cause I liked the colors and I did not have an allergic reaction when I bought from them before so I didn't take into account all the other people who did.

>>9832532
Why is everyone trying to take down AM? I went once and didn't have a bad time.
Really, you sound so angry, did you get touched by John? I don't see why you're going on a tirade just because /some/ people had a shitty time, ok?

>>9832532
>being this mad people have mentioned the company is shady

Idk anon types two sentences a post but you type up a whole post defending them. Who's on the tirade?

>>9832419
You're welcome, Anon! I remember being there so I'm just glad I got to help someone who had the same issue.

I have not dived into eye tape but try giving it a shot. I don't know how well it will work but I'm curious too if it would. I'm broke right now otherwise I'd try it myself!

>>9832544
Wrong thread, dum dum

>>9832546
>you typed more words so actually ur mad
Are you serious. Sorry I like typing out my thoughts. I'm not the one preaching for no real reason.

Quick- go stop jeffree star too!

>>9832379
I like the Fenty match sticks (I'm pale and cool toned and I'm the shade linen) and the hourglass foundation stick (I wear the shade blanc). The hourglass one is a better fit for me because it's cooler toned, but it's pricey. I like stick foundations because it's really easy to apply foundation only to problem areas or blend it out.

As for the foundation looking bad, do you have dry skin? I have that issue as well and apart from being really diligent about applying moisturizer, what helps me most is avoiding anything with a matte finish, because those accentuate every little flaw and dry out my skin. Stick to dewy things (Laura Mercier tinted moisturizer in Cameo if you're cool toned or Porcelain if you're warmed toned) or things you can sheer out.

>>9832656
It's not the wrong thread, you just seem to be too retarded to get the joke.

>>9832766
You asked for a recommendation? Someone told you they don't recommend a certain company, and you called them out for giving their honest opinion on the brand. That's sort of a crap move.

Just to be sure, roners are supposed to remove any extra dirt and grime your regular cleasers have missed right? I don't wear makeup, but I apply lots of oils and sunscreen.

Can they also help to clear up hyperpigmentation/dark marks/scars?
If so, can anyone suggest a good yet inexpensive toner? Like just to start out?
I have oily, acne prone skin if that helps. Buuut, I can also get eczema skin patches from time to time.

I was thinking of getting that popular Thayer's Witch Hazel Rose Water toner but Idk if Witch Hazel dries out the skin.

>>9833282
Toners that work for hyperpigmentation and other problems will have ingredients in them to address these problems. And witch hazel by itself shouldn't dry out your skin. Some toners include alcohol, which does. Thayer's does not. I'm a fan and actually use it to wash my face in the morning. It cuts through the morning grease. I've seen smaller bottles on sale, so maybe try it? They make an aloe one too.

>>9832379
For Western brands, I really like the Maybelline Fit Me Dewy. L'Oreal does a good job making paler shades.

Also, I tap my foundation on with my fingertips, concentrating on the center of my face, then hit it up with a damp beauty blender to get the excess. Maybe try that?

any other gulls doing the Ulta 21 days of beauty?

I just picked up the tarte eyeliner and I'm really pleased with it, I've been using Stila Waterproof liquid liner and clinique gel liner. It's easy to apply, both gel and liner stay put
on my oily lids and the pen is cute.

>also want:
>UD potion primer
>shisedo sunscreen
>possibly one of the benefit/too faced mascaras

what are you planning on picking up/already purchased?

I'm a tomboy that never wears makeup but I need to do some subtle contouring for a ftm crossplay. How the hell do I select a good contour shade that won't make me look like a drag king? Not gonna ask for specific shade recommendations because even if I posted a photo of my skin, monitor color varies and shit

>>9833564
Go for something 2 shades darker and slightly more grey (it needs to mimic a shadow on your face). Make sure to build the color up and blend the edges well.

There's always the option of using foundation. Find a foundation that matches you well, and then choose a contour shade from the same range (once again two shades darker and cooler). They'll blend well into each other and foundation is harder to over do with contouring. It'll look better to have the same coverage and finish across your whole face.

>>9832102
my roommate uses huda beauty's eyeshadow palettes and they look amazing on her olive skin

I just ran out of my BC prescription and renewing it is a bitch in Texas, so I started using african black soap for my stubborn hormonal acne and I’m obsessed. No more breakouts and it’s already helping my korean products lighten my scars. Combined with the rosehip oil sample I got from the whole foods beauty bag thing my skin hasn’t looked this good in a long time.

>>9833533
When I used to wear makeup, I had Benefit Roller Lash. I really liked the effect it gave, but it wasn't waterproof which was a serious deal breaker for me and I only wore it a few times. Also curious about your opinion on the Shisedo sunscreen? I need to get a new sunscreen and I have oily/acne prone skin which makes it difficult to find something that won't break me out and also won't look gross

>>9833533
I'm planning on getting the anastasia brow wiz!

any recommendations for cosplay lashes?

>>9834594
I own dolly wink lashes and they're really soft and flexible... Definitely worth the higher price. Only complaint is that the band is too long for my eye, you probably want to cut it down

>>9833599
Make sure you moisturise really well after using the soap. It can be super drying, but goddamn if it doesn't work miracles.

>>9833601
I use Shisedo and love it. I have more neutral/dry skin so I'm not sure how it is for oily types. If you haven't seen it already Stephanie Nicole on YouTube has great videos and I remember her recommending a specific sunscreen for oily skin. I don't remember the name but I do remember it was etude house.

I've tried about 4 different Asian sunscreens now and Shisedo is definitely my favorite. It dries down extremely well. Only con I guess is it stings if you get it in your eye so avoid that

>>9832895
Oh ok. Someone else can speak their opinion but when I say something back- not allowed and considered carp.

We went back n forth for awhile before I typed out some thing considered "long or wordy".

Did you even read what I said? Yea I asked for recommendation but I also said that I didn't have any problems with limecrimes lip stain - so yeah, their make up palette looked appealing. Other people managed to give me recs without some boycott bullshit but that one anon is just so passionate about their hatred of that company they felt the need to tell me.

Enjoy your morals but they won't do shit in the end.

>>9833599
You can use Nurx which is an online service that prescribes birth control without you having to actually go see a Dr., you just answer some questions and they mail it to you. I’m also in Texas and was really surprised it’s available here! Just FYI if it’s useful for you, I don’t think many people know about it yet.

>>9833599
I recently bought a bottle of rose hip oil and just using it as a moisturizer every morning and night has made me look fucking years younger. it's amazing. plus, it's supposed to help with wrinkles/scars/evening skin tone and discolorations. it's so nice.

>>9832160
>>9832130
>>9832114
>>9832381
>>9832546
No one gives a shit about old drama with Lime Crime; their product quality these days is fine and having info stolen from a website is a chance you take with any online shopping. It recently happened to Target too; are you going to boycott them as well? kek

>>9834596
>>9834594
Not dollywink for top lashes desu; the're comfortable and soft but they don't show up in photos because of their flimsiness.

>>9834741
Hi DD

>>9834744
>if they don’t agree with my virtue signaling it must be a selfpost!!
fuck off sjw, go cry about meanie buwwies on 4chinz supporting ebil companies on tumblr

>>9834741
You sound mad, enjoy your questionable makeup.

>>9834820
Hi DD. enjoying giving people face cancer with your moldy palettes?

I'm trying to step up my skin care routine game, I know that taking a hot shower helps open up pores, then i wash my face, exfoliate and wear a face mask. sometimes i moisturize- but what is the correct order for using these products? i know it can be bad for you if you overdo it

also, to get an idea it'd help if yall could please share your skin care routines as well! thanks! (also sharing products you love would be greatly appreciated)

>>9835469
>>9835478
>this sad samefagging because someone doesn't care about your bawwing
kek, pretty funny when people have vendetta on companies

>>9835588
>hot shower
>wash face
>pore strip
>toner
>Eye cream if it's evening
>moisturizer with SPF (without if it's evening)

Pore strips I only do once a week or once every other week. I don't use moisturizer if I'm going to wear a face mask, but use toner before putting the mask on. And for the love of God anon always moisturize your face after washing unless you wear a face mask every time you wash your face.

>>9832379
I'm very pale and I have the same problem. I think my skin just doesn't like being covered by a lot of liquid foundation. Try just using concealer on the areas you need to even out and then use a powder foundation that you buff in with a soft brush over your whole face. Works a lot better for me.

>>9834741
I agree with you. Boycotting is worthless especially if you try to recruit others. But stop using kek. It completely discredits your argument.

People don't even use kek on other boards anymore. Its like today is your first day on the Chinese cartoon board. Get with it my dude.

>>9835769
Same here. Very pale and no matter what I've tried (liquid and powder foundation from all different brands and multiple application techniques) it looks like dogshit on my skin. I've always just used concealer (liquid) on problem areas and used a powder and it works fine. I also use a translucent oil-reducing powder on top of my regular powder.

Highlighter for really pale people? I've seen recs for e.l.f. moonlight pearl

Any anons build their own eyeshadow palettes? Any recs for empty palettes, preferably with a magnet base? Bonus points if cute. I’ve previously bought bootleg Too Faced palettes, taken the shitty bootleg shadows out and used the palette as a base to build my own since I want cute packaging, but it’s getting too small. Should I just ditch the search for cute base palette and get a basic black empty one?

>>9835906
I’ve been usinga few: my fav is Anastasia Beverly Hill’s Crushed Pearl, but it only came bundled with the Gleam Glow Kit few years ago and isn’t sold anymore. Other than that, I’ve been using Jeffree Star’s Ice Cold and Crystal Ball (Crystal Ball doesn’t have the best formula but you can make it work), as well as Colourpop’s Lunch Money and Stole the Show.
For reference, I’m from Northern Europe and white as a sheet so I’m as pale as it gets.

>>9835906
I'm extremely pale and neutral-toned (Missha 13 is a perfect match) and Mary Lou-Manizer looks really nice for a warmer highlight.

>>9835732
ah this is really helpful, thanks anon! is toner truly similar to an exfoliator? and if so im assuming its not good to use it everyday

>>9835793
>u-using an old meme means you're new!!
do you realize how retarded you sound
keeeeeeek

>>9836116
nayrt but they don't sound half as mentally retarded as you do.

>>9833601
I'm trying decide between

>Neutrogena Clear Face Liquid Lotion Sunscreen For Acne-Prone Skin, $10 at Walmart
>Shisedo face sunscreen

I sampled the Neutrogena and thought it was ok, they have at least two face sunscreens and the aforementioned is specifically geared toward healing/preventing break outs from what I understand.

After SPF 30 it doesn't really matter, I wish I could find a facial sunscreen spray under $10, the active ingredients make it expire so fast

>>9835588
You don't want the water too hot, you don't need to be steaming your pores, that can be too harsh on your skin. I've heard pore strips can be detrimental but I don't have blackheads so I can't speak from personal experience

Would you guys reccomend any of the skin care products from Daiso or should I steer clear from those?

>>9835633
Kek, so mad.

>>9836193
I bought a cleansing milk in a red tube from there years ago, it was nice

>>9836213
Oh nvm it was a body milk. Nevertheless, a good product

>>9835588
Pore strips can be satisfying, but I've heard they enlarge your pores if you do them too often. The little black dots on your nose are most likely sebaceous filaments. I use BHAs for these (gentle chemical exfoliater) to take care of them. Oil cleansers are good for this too.

I have dehydrated/oily skin and I constantly change my routine but this is what I have right now:

1st Cleanser: kose softymo deep cleansing oil
2nd Cleanser: Cerave foaaming cleanser
Actives: TO Retinol .2% (just got this the other day), Melazepam Azelaic Acid, Stridex in the red box, Stratia Soft touch (I do not use all of these on one day, I generally use them when I feel the need to otherwise my skin would melt off)
FTE: Missha Intensive FTE
Toner: Kikumasamune Sake Skin Lotion
Essence: Scinic All in one honey w/ TO niacinamide
Serum: Stratia liquid gold
Moisturizer: Beauty of joseon cream w/ TO rosehip oil
Sleeping pack: Sulwhasoo overnight mask

My favorites are probably the liquid gold and the kikumasamune lotion. Both are great for keeping a hydrated and moisturized skin barrier!

>>9836113
Toners even out the skin. If you're oily you'll want a toner for "combo" skin. If you're skin is dry they make moisturizing toners. I find that it helps "set" the skin for the products you apply afterwards. It also helps to remove any residue left by your cleanser. I don't know if it's really necessary but I've been using it since I started wearing makeup so I don't know life without it.

>>9836116
Repeating shit you heard on reddit doesn't mean you're an oldfag.

Anyone ever actually try out the whole "7 step korean skin care routine" I feel like it's overkill, but I mean if it works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>9836197
>>9836129
kek, so mad that you have to samefag :^)

>>9836129
>n-no you!!
nice try "different anon"

>>9836370
>l-leddit!!
>y-you're not an OLDFAG!!!
keeeeek, pathetic

okay

>>9836197
>getting salty about being called out for obvious samefagging and pointless vendetta
Kek, so mad.

>>9836723
I've finally gotta there after months of slowly adding on things. Not sure how it's working out yet. My face does look a lot clearer in general than it did at the beginning, but I still have some flaky patches.

>>9836723
I’ve been doing it for a few years now, and it does help a lot. My skin is smooth and moisturized, I used to have cystic acne before. I don’t even get any pimples anymore. You can adjust the routine a bit according to your needs, no need to do all the steps or you can add extra ones if needed.

I wanna try this AHA/BHA shit because my acne severely impacts my mental health and I still haven't tried this yet, would I be better off with Paula's Choice or COSRX? I also need a moisturizer with SPF apparently so any suggestions regarding that would be great.

>>9838436
>my acne severely impacts my mental health

Lel

I'm in Japan, last time I was here (3 years ago) I purchased 2 of pic related eyeliner. They were perfect, so I thought I'd buy more this time, but I've been here for a week now and no one carries it anymore. I got the Love Liner but was not impressed. The lines are not true black and the color is inconsistent. Plus, I really loved that the PMEL one had a thicker side and a thinner one, depends on how you hold it. Anyone knows any similar liner? Any recommendations for something similar?

>>9838436

If it impacts your "mental health" that much, I'd really advise a health professional. They would be able to steer you in a clearer direction than a Filipino basket weaving board.

OoO

>>9834594
ive been using the ardell faux mink in 810, you can get about 3 uses from each pair and they dont look too extreme and are generally affordable

>>9831360
Follow what your derm recommended and go see an esthetician as well for a facial and professional skincare products to keep your skin at optimal health. You need a solid regime morning and night to keep your skin healthy during and after antibiotics. Don't just rely on meds and don't keep switching derms

>>9836193
I got two kinds of makeup remover wipes from them the pink grapefruit pack and the aloe pack, I liked both and was able to find a review for the pink grapefruit wipes and everything checked out. I have really sensitive acne-prone skin and it wasn't messing it up.

If I'm going to smear body paint all over my hands and arms, does anyone know what the best sealing method would be?
I've heard hairspray is bad for hands because it makes them sticky and the movement of the hands makes it less effective?

>>9836723
Yes, like all skincare it's a combination of genetics + environment + finding what works for you. Some people are fine with just washing with water because they're genetically blessed, some people are fine in dry climates but pizza faced in humid ones, some people react to hard water or aircon at work. So choose products to target whatever skin issues you have, and don't introduce them all at once in case you react.

>>9838436
Literally it depends on you. People tend to love one or the other.

Anyone else a fan of homemeade stuff? From face mask to cleansers and lipsticks, I really love the process.

Does anyone use like bc or foundation cushions anymore? Any recommendations? I have combination-dry skin. (So not super dry generally, and I can get oily on my t-zone every once in a while)

ALSO anyone know of some good sunscreen that doesn't feel oily for your body? I got face covered, but I hate when my arms and legs feel greasy.

Does anyone know of a good BB or CC cream without silicone? I've tried Khiel's and the consistency was weird.

Hi, I've only recently got into makeup and have started using lip tints, the tints in question are etude house's dear darling lip tints. I'm happy with the pigment on my lower lip, but on my upper lip it just doesn't seem to take. I've tried exfoliating and cleansing, but it doesn't seem to help. My upper lip is waxier and almost sturdier feeling, sorry no pictures, I don't have a camera that can clearly pick up the problem in the photo.

Any one else with a similar problem? I have a bit of a habit of biting my lower lip, so maybe thats the difference? I don't know.

>>9836743
>keeeeek
I'll bet you're the type of person who uses this saying in real life and spit flies off your mouth when you say it.


Not even projecting. I've just met lots of regards like you so I don't see why you'd be any different.

>>9843319
>being this triggered over a meme
keeeeeeek

>>9838436
>Paula's Choice or COSRX?
I'll ignore the rest of your post.
I prefer COSRX, pic related is an AHA/BHA combo toner I use that has really worked well for me, it lasts surprisingly long too.
I went from having moderate acne pre routine and have consistently clear skin now, have always been combination/oily.
I attribute my success more to moisturizing that anything else, so keep that in mind.

Ok yall, I have a question. I have to paint my face white for a cosplay and I'm having incessant difficulties. The paint either turns out uneven, or you can see every fucking pore and fine line i have from several kilometres away. I don't think I have time to buy something new but I'll consider it. Currently I have Laikou color correction foundation which is not actually white but a very light ivory, stargazer white foundation and snazaroo white creme paint. Please, Lord, help me I have 3 weeks until the convention and I'm going to die.

>>9844362
Are you using a primer? Most white foundations aren't meant to be worn on their own--stuff like Manic Panic's white foundation are designed to be mixed with a regular foundation so the texture tends to be off. A primer will help, and so will moisturizer. If you still can't get it to work, I'd look into Ben Nye and other stage makeup.

>>9844362
Sometimes I mix a drop or two of marula or argan oil into my Foundation to help thin it out and look less cakey, but I can't say how that would work with other formulas like snazaroo. Thick formulas in foundation = cakey look, visible pores, etc. You want to try and find something that has a thin formula but it's highly pigmented. illamasqua had white foundation but other than that...

>Try an off brand beauty blender
>Gently exfoliate and moisturize before hand, moistrize as much as possible, before you sleep, etc
>dab repeatedly, don't rub or smear the product into your skin

>>9844507
>>9844593
Bless you both. I used a pore filler, but I probably need to do more.

Hello gulls, I use a setting powder (makeup revolution luxury baking powder) and I recently bought a liquid highlighter and I don't know if I should use it on top of the powder or the powder on top?

>>9844734
Powder on top

>>9844734
I use highlighter as one my last steps, liquid or powder

Does anybody have any recommendations for eye cream?

>>9840638

I really liked the missha cushion and the Laneige cushion when I was still using them. I also have dry combo skin so those two kept on pretty well without becoming crusty, although sometimes I did have an oil problem 8 hours in particularly during summer.

The only thing I really did not like about cushions is how dirty the sponge can get even with washing. I know you can get refills but after a while I reverted back to plain view cream I can put on with just a brush or my fingers.

Does anyone else use/like Beauty Bakerie? I recently ordered some stuff from them. Their packaging is adorable and I've heard many good things about most of their products.

>buy 1lb block of african black soap
>shit looks gross
>use it anyways
>it makes my skin tingle/burn
this is normal... right?

>>9845265
>it makes my skin tingle/burn

Does that sound right to you?

I'm new to skin care and being 25 i figured i should start some an anti ageing routine. I don't know where to start. Does anyone have any routine or product suggestions?

>>9845384
The basic anti-aging skincare routine I'd recommend is:

1. Makeup remover if you wear it (oil cleanser or wipes)
2. Gentle facial cleanser
3. Exfoliant (chemical is generally better than physical, but both are fine)
4. Anti-aging serum (retinol/niacinamide/vit C are going to be good ingredients to look out for)
5. Eye cream
6. Moisturizer
7. Sunscreen

Depending on what your routine is like now, I'd go for cleanser, moisturizer, and sunscreen first, in that order. If you want to learn more about exfoliants/actives and serums, I'd recommend you take a look at the skincareaddiction subreddit! They have a bunch of resources for beginners to skincare. If you tell us more about your skin and what you use currently (if anything), I could also give you some more specific product recommendations!

>>9845112
>>9844734
Liquids don't go over powders, you fools. It fucks up the texture

>>9845425
This helps me alot lol.My routine only consists of and aveeno facial clenser and moisturizer with spf. I have a dry skin type.thank you so much. I know next to nothing so its high time i learn.

>>9845265
I use to use it on my face and it didn't burn so...

I have really dark and big pores on my nose. Besides surgery, what sort of things can I do to minimize them permanently?
Light-treatment, micro-needling?
What kind of BH chemical exfoliates do you guys use?
I'm at the end of my rope here.

>>9845774
Surgery wouldn't fix it either

>>9845774
Iktf anon. Just use pure strips once a week or every other week and use toning face masks. You can eliminate them but you can do your best to keep them clean.

>>9845384
>>9845425
100% this. I use high spf moisturizer and makeup with spf wo I don't use sunscreen alone. I also live in new England so I'm covered head to toe 365 days a year but if you live in a sunny place definitely put sunscreen on exposed areas of skin.

>>9845774
>>9845829

pore strips makes pores BIGGER! don't use them if you want smaller pores.

I was having some pore problems and I tried the A'pieu coffee milk mask and it worked really well for me, and its cheap. Most importantly though, no pore strips!

>>9845901
No they don't. That's just a myth. Your pores are your pores and you're not going to do anything to increase or decrease their size.

>>9845774
Botox

Would I get any noticeable results with a lash tint? I searched on reddit for experiences and pretty much everyone who got them has fair lashes so I'm unsure. If you've ever gotten a tint done, please post before and after pics!

>>9831233
so my wife has some condition that makes her body produce too much testosterone or something like it, i dont know, its like pcos or something. After we had our baby her hormones have spiked and she hasnt been able to get them under control. I love seeing her cosplay but this year she said she is skipping it because she is too muscular and has grown body hair and facial hair. While her muscle gain is noticeable i dont think it is a big deal. But is there anything i can buy her or get for her body and facial hair that will help? I just want to make her feel better but i dont know anything about that stuff. Can someone help?

pic somewhat related. she spent nearly 2 months making a pinkie pie gala dress and its pretty good but now shes too self conscious.

>>9847176
I mean, if it's a long term problem, why not get laser hair removal on the face? it's a small area so it's not like it's going to be as expensive as getting your entire legs done.

Anyone got any experiance with Dermablend for use on legs to cover bruises?

>>9847176
An epilator. The ones that also work underwater hurt even less.
But most importantly, since it is a medical issue, why didn't the doctor prescibe something for the haywire hormones? Isn't it a common sense after birth, when is expected for the body to be out of tune?

>>9845265
Oh, that's right, I have that experiment to perform. And sounds like you might be allergic anon. Are you doing a spot test?

>>9847260
I think electrolysis is even more long term(but more time consuming and expensive) for smaller areas like upper lip and cheeks. I'll get it done in a couple of years when I have the money.

>>9832379
i like the Tarte rainforest of the sea foundation, it has a very natural look to it and the coverage is buildable. it's water based so it doesn't usually look cakey, however it will oddly emphasize dry spots unless you moisturize well

UGH! What is happening to my lips? Why is my make up “spidering” outt like this? I used to use cheap shit and it never did this. Now I dropped $50 bucks at MAC for a pencil, lipstick and gloss cause I thought I would step up my look, but this is the result after a few hours. And I didn’t even eat anything, just talking.

>>9838437
Nayrt but fuck you

>>9847815
I dunno about your lips, but you gotta cover up that nasty mole or sunspot on your check better.

>>9847815
Did you change any other parts of your makeup routine? Did you powder? You can also try using each of the 3 products individually to check their performance. Also ignore >>9847887, she seems like a cunt.

>>9847815
Try it all without the gloss. I don't have this issue with MAC but I don't use gloss. gloss usually makes the other products wear off/smudge quicker/easier and I suspect that might be the case here. It's almost like how using an oil on skin to remove makeup kinda "melts" the makeup off. Same thing with gloss on lipstick, which leads to feathering because of the creases in your skin

>>9847937
Different anon, but if gloss does that, what’s the point? It makes everything so pretty for like five minutes and then it feathers out like that. Lame.

>>9847260
with our baby we only have 12.48$ of free spending money. Our budget is tight.
>>9847298
She is in the process of switching doctors because her current one says that her hormone imbalance is because she is over weight by 20lbs but she is 5'4 and 123lbs. I asked my aunt who is a nurse about it and she said that the doctor is a quack and she needs a new one fast. Currently we are just waiting for a doctor to accept new patients.

Favorite primers and BB creams? Not sure if I'm looking for anything in particular, but throwing products out that I can google myself is fine. For BB cream I'm at least looking for something really lightweight, to just gently even out the skin tone for the days where I don't want to slather on foundation.

>>9848291
Revlon photo ready perfecting primer is my favorite. I've tried a bunch of drug store ones and it's by far my the best I've tried. Been using it for years now and always keep and extra 1 or 2 in my closet so I never run out.

Prior to that my favorite was Chanel's primer but they discontinued it a decade ago.

>>9847815
Try kiko lip gloss. It works for me,and is much cheaper.

>>9831357
r u logan paul?

>>9848548
Logan's eyes are much more downturned

Starting to get smile lines despite using all of the moisturizers, including rose hip oil daily, and obviously tons of sun protection. What do? Good product? I've been using an eye gel on that spot (bae body) but it doesn't appear to be helping.

>>9847887
Well someone woke up on the floor today.

>>9847303
I've kept using it since then on my face and back and it doesn't burn anymore... I doubt I'm allergic, I don't see any sort of irritation. I always wash my face with a regular face wash after I use the black soap though because I know it can be harsh

>>9847176
>>9848256
I have PCOS and she needs to get this corrected by a doctor. Hormones really aren't fun to fuck around with, especially if you plan to have more kids. My friend also had this at 15 and had to get an ovary removed, as well as the other and now a hysterectomy due to further complications with PCOS(and possibly just genetic shitty reproductive cancers).

As for hair removal, epilator, laser hair removal, Veet/Nair, waxing. It's a lot of maintenance but you get used to it. PCOS is actually pretty common in my experience.

>>9847815
Get a primer. I like Lip Insurance from Too Faced, but the one from NYX is good too, and cheaper.

Do you guys have any holy grail cruelty-free sheet mask reccs? I've been using TonyMoly for awhile now since a friend got me a bunch of packs as a gift, but now that I'm running low I need something else similar to switch to.

>>9848592
Fillers

>>9847298
I also have an issue with some thick facial hair issue and can´t always solve it with make up, which epilators would you recommed? any brand or model? price doesn´t matter

>>9848657
Uhh washing twice is just going to make things worse, you’re just stripping your skin even more

>>9847998
I think gloss is basically meant to be used on bare lips. I don't know though. I just know that it seems to be better used for photos if you're going to use it on top of another product, because it practically melts most lipstick off. It makes my "kiss proof" liquid matte lipsticks melt off too, which is funny because they are usually hard to get off otherwise.

Does anyone knows of a trustworthy online store selling missha magic cushion n.27? I can only find those on ebay/aliexpress stores that I don't know if I should trust and on soko glam wich doesn't shipp to my country.
Also, if not missha magic cushion, is there any other cushion out there for people that are not completely pale and doesn't cost a kidney? Cause apart from the missha one, all I find are almost 100USD and I don't have that money plus shipping to invest

>>9850568
It looks like Rose Rose Shop doesn't have it right now, but they have a request forum where you can ask them to stock stuff. I've bought from them before and they're very trustworthy, so you could try that.

>>9848657
Like other anon says, you're just drying your skin out more. Use a toner instead to pick up residue. Glad you're not allergic.

>>9831360
I've tried taking antibiotics and also got a yeast infection. I recently have been able to get my cystic acne under control through a cocktail of certain vitamins. I still get minimal pimples here and there but I'm happy I was able to figure out cystic acne because it destroyed my chin/jaw line

>>9833282
As a fellow oily acne prone person, the toner I've liked the best is Benton's Aloe toner which has BHA which helps with skin turnover

I'm pretty new to skincare... Is there any way to lighten up dark patches of skin? I have faint dark streaks of skin where granny jowl lines are and in bad lighting it makes me look 50.

>>9833599
What are good brands for the black soap and rose hip oil? This sounds like just what I need! I have hormonal acne (PCOS) but don't want to go back on BC

>>9851392
Retinol, vitamin C, niacinamide, skin protection...

>>9851309
Which vitamins did you end up using?

>>9851487
Evening primrose oil, zinc for acne (Puritan brand), and vitamin D for energy.
What's nice about the zinc for acne line is it includes other vitamins that help with skin like A, C, E, B6

Recommendations for a light sunscreen that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?

I work nights so I'm not out in the sun often but I use acids and I fucking hate feeling like there's anything oily or wet on my face, even vaseline or chapstick on my lips. I'm hesitant to spend more than $15 on sunscreen I'll just toss if there's cheaper options I can try first.

Has anyone had any experience with the Lemon Neogen Bio-peel exfoliating pads? I've used the wine one before and really like it, and now that I've run out, I was thinking about whether I should buy the same one again or if I should try out the lemon one instead.

>>9851775
Biore aqua watery gel

>>9851778
Wasn't a fan. I felt like it did absolutely nothing for me except make me smell like Pine-Sol.

>>9848256
>she is over weight by 20lbs but she is 5'4 and 123lbs
Yeah go to a different doctor. That's the normal weight range for her height. If you really only have $12 to spare a month, apply for Medicaid. Everything should be covered medical wise, especially since you have a dependent now.

If you're not in the USA, then my post is kind of moot lol

But truly I hope everything works out for your wife.

>>9849018
Its been rough for her. We had tried to get pregnant for a few years but she miscarried six different times and she gave up on trying but she got pregnant about a year and a half later and then we finally had our baby girl. She cried when she heard our baby crying after they preformed the cesarean section. When she was holding her for the first time i could see in her eyes all that pain and suffering she went through sort of melt away.
Sorry i got side tracked, i "suggested she might like learning how to thread her eyebrows and she liked the idea. I ended up getting my friends mom to teach her how to thread all of her facial hair. She likes it a lot.
>>9852583
We have insurance already but we did try and apply for medicaid and we were rejected because our income is too large to qualify for it. They said we would have to make less than 800$ a year... But my wife is financially savvy and budgets pretty well although she makes us both put in 50$ a month for retirement or savings or something. I dont think its necessary, but she said its hard to get rich quick but its easy to get rich slowly. So according to her math we will both be millionaires before we turn 60 if we keep putting in that amount. She also cooks nearly every meal because its nearly a quarter of the cost to go out to eat. Im surprised she can even make our money last all month. She is like a super mom... Or a cheapskate... I havent figured it out yet.

Maleanon here. New to skin care. Right now I use
>face wash
>moisturizer
>retin-a cream
>vitamin c serum
>sunscreen

Want to start exfoliating but I don't know what to buy. Give me link for what to order, preferably on iHerb

>>9852923
iherb.com/pr/secret-key-lemon-sparkling-peeling-gel-120-ml/69960
ymmv

>>9852956
Thanks

hey guys /fit/ here

coming to learn more about skin care after reading this >>>/fit/45598034

how should I clean my nose pores?

>>9852998
I like pore strips. Love them actually. You'll hear people claim they make your pores bigger and stretched out but there's no actual documented evidence of that.

If your skin is sensitive or you really hate the process of ripping off the sticky pore strip, you can use a mask. There are Dead Sea mud masks by Pure Body Naturals and Aria Starr Beauty that both get rave reviews. I have not tried them myself though.

You could try using the masks in between pore strips (which I use once ever 1-2 weeks) to really keep 'em clean, since I assume you're not wearing makeup like most ITT and thus don't have the option of just covering them up.

>>9852923
Don't combine Vit C and Retin-A at the same time, let's hope you know this already.
Ignore >>9852956 it's a meme, lemon extracts are skin irritants, ask any derm. The only exfoliation you could consider would be a gentle BHA wash like the CosRX Low pH Good Morning Gel Cleanser or maybe the CosRX AHA/BHA exfoliant >>9843645 recommended.

You should be careful not to use AHA/BHA/Vit C or any other actives with Retin-a, they can deactivate and more importantly, extremely irritate the skin.

is it possible to reverse laugh lines? mine are not absolutely terrible but they do kind of bother me. especially how apparent they are in certain lighting.

>>9847123
You would get results with a lash tint, but I recommend getting the tint and lash lift as well. I would search estheticians in your area that perform these services and see their before and after photos.

>>9833282
Toner balances the pH of your skin after you cleanse. You're stripping the skin of it's natural oils when removing the debris and bacteria with cleanser so that's why you tone after cleansing and before moisturizer.
It will not help with hyperpigmentation or scars. You need a microdermabrasion treatment or microneedling. Either you should consult a dermatologist and esthetician to get results in that area.
If you have acne&oily skin you should try a toner with alcohol, but that also might be too much if you have eczema. I would research the toners that are in your price range and targeted for your problems and go from there.
Witch hazel can dry your skin out if you don't moisturize after you apply the toner. To help clear up your acne balancing the pH of your skin is a key step you might be missing to treating and managing your skin condition. Always remember!
1.Cleanser
2.Toner
3.Moisturizer
Keep it basic while you start a new products and slowly add in other beneficial products to target your concerns.
Good luck!

>>9833282
I also have eczema and I swear by Thayer's Unscented Witch Hazel. I can really tell a difference in terms of acne when I don't use it. I tried the cucumber one and it irritated my skin, haven't tried the rose water one but if you have really sensitive skin I would just go with the original formula unscented to be safe. It feels like water, I'm not sure if it dries out the skin but I moisturize really well anyways so I haven't noticed.

>>9852998
BHAs really made a difference to the appearance of my tzone long term but pore strips can be an easy first step.

What are your favorite lash glues that you can peel off in strips when it dries? I love the tiny bottles that come with Dolly Wink because it doesn't leave behind chunks when I take it off, but I want to find something of retail-volume.

i just spent $230 on skincare ;_;

cops included:

- missha time evolution essence
- missha signature m bb cream
- skinfood peach cotton toner
- missha misa geum sul eye crown
- neogen peeling pads wine
- klairs vitamin c serum
- clarins éclat du jour cream
- heimish balm cleaner

thoughts on the products?
- guerlain lipstick

>>9853867
Let me guess...the Clarins and Guerlain were the most expensive items on that list.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but does anyone have some links that explain how face taping is bad for skin? Google just gives me endless Hollywood tabloid shill

What's a good affordable face regime for dry skin?
I have a face scrub that I love and makes my skin feel great (ocean salt which is pricey but worth it in my opinion) and then use nature republic aloe vera gel afterwards but I have no idea what I'm doing.
Also another question, has anyone ever dealt with dark marks on their face? If so how were you able to keep it under control?

Does anyone have any advice for trouble with redness? I have rosacea and keratosis pilaris that I've been teased for my entire life. I wouldn't say it's severe but it's bad enough to really hurt my self esteem. I've been to the dermatologist a few times as a teenager for it but none of the lotions or face wash they gave me worked. It feels like no matter how much primer or concealer I use my face is permanently red. I'm at a loss really.

>>9855057
I'm sure you know, but the rosacea will never go away, there's no cure for it. Your best bet is to keep it at bay. I wear a full face of makeup everyday, but if you don't want to do that - try Urban Decay's Self-Adjusting Primer. It's helped on days I feel lazy. Be aware though that it might oxidize and turn you orange. Try a sample at Sephora first.

As for the KP this is also just another thing to keep at bay. KP Duty is a great product, but pricey. Try Lush's King of Skin body butter as a cheap alternative.

>>9843300
Might be an idea to try something like the Peripera lip inks instead; I had trouble with water tints showing up on my upper lip but have better luck with the peripera inks.

>>9854928
I like to use a deep face cleaner like face Neutrogena, and put a sleeping mask on like Etude house bubble tea sleeping pack.


The combo makes my face feel like a baby's ass

>>9854928
>>9855157
Oh and, all of this is under $30 (depending on which Neutrogena product you get)

>>9854928
Salt is drying, why are you using it if you have dry skin?

>>9855157
>>9855161
Thank you so much! I'll definitely be looking into these

>>9855269
It's got coconut oil and avacado butter in it so it does end up leaving my face feeling moisturized and soft, but it's not enough to keep my face that way for long periods if that makes sense?

Looking for recommendations on a night cream for dry skin. Price doesn't matter too much and I'm fine with eastern and western brands.

My AM routine is:
>Cleanse with Garnier micele water
>moisturize with Mario Badescu Hyaluronic Acid Lotion spf 15

PM;
>use Clarisonic to cleanse with Murad Resurgence Cleansing Cream
>follow up with Garnier micele water again
>moisturize with Mario Badescu Kera Moist Cream

I also alternate between Laneige Water Sleeping Mask and Origins Clear Improvement masks every few days.

My current routine keeps me moisturized but the Kera Moist Cream feels greasy for hours.

>>9854928
Unfortunately, products moisturizing enough for dry skin that don't clog pores aren't the cheapest. I use Mizon snail cream, which works really well, but you might be a heavier cream for night time. I like Caudalie as well.

Aloe Vera is for oily skin, so I don't recommend it. For dry skin you should really use oil cleansers, as they really do help. Also, a shit ton of moisturizers. They should be light, but layer them.

With dry skin, it's a bit of a what works for you, because some people have flakey dry, some are combination, and some aren't actually dry but dehydrated. You have to figure out how your skin reacts. Like mine breaks out when it gets too dry, and develops patches.

>>9856171
I'm kind of a combination so it makes it kind of difficult. Aloe vera works for the oily parts but areas like my forehead tend to flake more so I guess I'll have to experiment more.
Thank you for these tips!

>>9852998
Exfoliating really well with a cleansing scrub should do the trick

>>9853867
Now enjoy taking 2 weeks between each product to introduce them

Any toughts on *[COSRX] - BHA Blackhead Power Liquid* ? My skin is a little bit dry, but I have a lot of black heads and eventually some pimples, I was hoping this could help me. Thinking about buying jelly wine sleeping pack to moisture my skin and compensate any dehydration that BHA could provoke.

>>9858711
I found it to be too harsh. My skin is admittedly a little dry and sensitive but I had more luck with products from The Ordinary.
I'm stating the obvious but if you buy it patch test first and then slowly introduce it.

I'm turning 24 this year. Is it okay for me to use creams with hyaluronic acid, or is this one of those anti aging products that damages younger skin and should only be used once you're older?

Sorry if this is a dumb question but Google didn't help much... results were all related to 30yo+ women

>>9845425
does anyone have a recommendation for a good facial moisturizer? I'm having trouble figuring one out, my skin used to be extremely oily and now it's like the Sahara desert

>>9859258
Yes.

>>9858711
Did nothing for me. My skin prefers BHA in gel form

>>9859258
Use it, it's not like anti-aging products would somehow harm young skin. Hyaluronic acid binds water molecules and those clusters sit on your skin and the water absorbs gradually, that means your skin is hydrated for longer time.

>>9859265
I generally use coconut oil as a moisturizer. It's natural and has lots of benefits for the skin.

Guys, I've been trying to solve a problem I have since as a kid.
I have a pale skin, but I have really dark circles and baggy eyes, full of wrinkles because of excessive skin. My whole family has this and I've been trying to use many skincare products to, at least, soften these awful problems, but still I had no results.
I was thinking about using products with vitamin c and hyaluronic acid to see if it works, however, I'm not sure if will work.
Do you guys have any recommendations/tips on what should be done to solve this?

>>9860025
Bad advice for most people. Only people without skin issues should ever put coconut oil on their face.

>>9860028
Go to a dermatologist and ask them rather than continue to waste money on products that aren't giving you the desired effect. Maybe look into fillers or botox (you're never too young for fillers however if you're young botox may not be the best idea, only because the sooner you start using botox, the greater the chances of it not being as effective when you're older and need it more).

>>9835906
NW10 here, that elf highlighter was nice for the price I guess? It's not very pigmented at all.

MAC's shaping powder in Emphasize has been by far the best highlighter I've tried for my skintone. IDK why mac isn't more hyped/talked about in beauty communities, is it because they don't have flashy packaging and marketing campaigns or what?

>>9859265
Go super basic - like Cerave or Cetaphil moisturizer, pure aloe gel. If you like Korean skin care some of the snail based moisturizers are ok. Don't use coconut oil, it's very comedogenic if you are at all acne prone.

Generally the formulation of a moisturizer also tells you how it is on your skin - lotions and gels sink in, creams and ointments sometimes sit on top a bit more which may be useful if you're finding your skin is losing moisture quickly

I used Paula's choice bha for about a year in 2015-16, ran out, and finally started again with cosrx bha in January of this year. When I started Paulas choice my skin purged some nasty cystic acne for about two months and then cleared up. With the cosrx though, I'm on month 4 and still purging. Is there a big difference between pauals choice and cost? Should purging be going on for this long?

Best way to deal with bacne?

>>9860068
What worked for me was making sure to shampoo and condition my hair before I washed my back, and also using a loofah on a stick to actually be able to reach my back when washing it.

>>9860072
I'll give that a shot, thanks anon!

>>9860045
Are you purging from where you usually get cysts or is it new acne cropping up? If it's the latter, that's not purging...

>>9860134
It's from where I usually get really bad breakouts. Chin/jawline, same as last time. I have been using it about 2-3x a week, and I dont remember how often I used the paulas choices a few years ago, so I guess that could be it, perhaps I'm using it more or less frequently than before so it's making the purging take longer? It still seem so long though.

I have no idea how to apply eyeliner without making a mess. Usually when I try the line isn't straight like it should be and trying to correct it makes everything worse. Watching makeup tutorials on youtube isn't helping, because youtubers just apply eyeliner super fast and easily and don't explain much about eyeliner in the first place.

>always had acne problems
>only on face
>around 5 years ago, started getting cystic acne for no reason, only on cheeks. The same cysts would reappear in one spot. Covering up with makeup didnt help. Cysts would be on top of each other and would swell right under my eyelid, making it look like I was punched in the eye. >Dermatologist would put in steroid shots and/or drain them
>have tried everything, from retinoid creams to acne meds
>dermatologist recommends accutane but says to go on birth control first for some reason
>gynecologist prescribes me birth control
>cystic acne completely goes away
>have never had a bad breakout since except for occasional pimples due to stress/hormones or eating shitty food.
>have never had one cystic pimple ever since
>never went on Accutane becayse the birth control was enough

4-5 years later and not a cystic pimple since. I still don't know how I started getting them in the first place. Although, I'm kinda afraid that if I ever do get off birth control, my cystic acne will come back.

My only issue now is terrible redness on my cheeks and chin from years of acne damage. I'm pasty white, so finding the right cover-up that matches my skin tone is a pain in the ass. If I don't wear makeup, I look like I have rosacea.

>>9860167
nayrt and this is a shot in the dark because I don't know what your diet and vitamin regimen are like. but sometimes chin/jaw acne comes from B vitamin deficiencies. I used to get really bad breakouts in just that specific area, just gigantic zits that would take forever to come to a head (if they ever would at all), and B vits helped a lot. it's easy to get depleted - stress, hormones, certain meds. if you're not already taking a B complex supplement, maybe try it for a few weeks. they're water soluble vitamins, your body just pees out the excess, so it can't hurt to try (unless you're taking another drug that interacts with it, but you can check for that on drugs dot com or a similar site). the pills smell nasty and will make your pee bright yellow though, so be ready for that.

>>9856072
I hear Belif's True Cream Moisturizing Bomb is very good for dry skin. But honestly I'd look into getting a hydrator like the Hada Labo lotion. Layering that and putting a simple cream on top has done more wonders for me than any single cream I've ever used.

Can these be used as alternative to loofah for exfoliating?

>>9860578
Learn to let things go. Or practice more. Don't try to draw the line in one shot, use smaller strokes. You can try using tape to draw straighter/crisper lines.

>>9860578
What kind of eyeliner? Assuming you mean liquid and your goal is some simple eyeliner, I recommend getting a brush tip applicator. Physicians formula 2-in-1 eyebooster is amazing (get ultra black). If not that one, any sort of eyeliner with a pen tip applicator. Do not tug on your eyes, I recommend getting a good mirror and raising your head while looking down versus trying to get as close to a mirror as possible. When you have a pen applicator, all you have to really do is rest the brush tip along your lashline and it'll stamp. Continue doing that until you form an even line. When you get better you'll be able to do this while looking straight forward in the mirror.

If you mean pencil eyeliner that's even easier: make sure your pencil is sharpened and dot along your lashline, do NOT create one heavy continuous line. You can smudge out the dots so they form a line above your eye while not looking too heavy. You can build it up to where you need it.

Look for Lisa Eldridge liner tutorials on YouTube if you need more help, she more or less mentions these tips in her videos. Hope that helps!

>>9860660
For the body they're fine, never the face. Although I'd recommend getting a Salux exfoliating towel more. There are 3 packs available on Amazon. They're washable and very durable and exfoliate like nothing I've ever used.

>>9860600
>was on bc for a while
>decided to stop because /pol/ reasons
>get horrible breakouts for 3 weeks
>then acne mostly goes away again
>past week or two I've been getting breakouts, idk why.

>>9859699
I've been applying hyaluronic acid straight. Is that bad or should I mix it with stuff? I live in a really arid place (want to move next year to somewhere more humid.)

>>9860717

>decided to stop because /pol/ reasons

Kek.

>>9851775
Raspberry seed oil. zero comedogenic rating, cheap and easy to find. You can use it straight but it's straight up oil, best to mix it with a creamy moisturizer. I have some added in my homemade daily lotion. It's not super powerful though, but okay for normal daily activities.

>>9860578
>>9860662
This. Practice more, and don't try to draw the lines all in one shot, instead make short little lines and then connect/fill them in.

>>9860656
I just got a sample of the Belif and I love it. But I've got really dry skin after this winter. Once the weather changes it will be too heavy to use as a daily moisturizer.

>>9860578
If you're just after a natural line I suggest lining while following your eye shape. Start one third from your inner corner (this probably depends on your eye shape but my liner always looks terrible starting right from the inner corner) with a gentle thin line (you can thicken later on). Extend a little horizontally once you hit your outer corner then fill in the line from that extended line back towards your liner around midway on your lid. Fill in and thicken the line depending on your preference.

Sorry if this sounds really confusing lol but it's my quick go-to natural line. A hand mirror is also helpful to see things nice and close.

>>9858729
What "the ordinary" products did you use, anon?

>>9861041
Alpha Arbutin 2% + HA and Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1%.

I also use Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA and I've introduced Ascorbyl Tetraisopalmitate Solution 20% in Vitamin F.

>>9861076
>realized I was running low on Alpha Arbutin
>went to buy some
>it's out of stock everywhere

Fuck me.

Can anybody recommend a good tutorial or palette for a red eyeshadow look that works with lolita? I don't know what I"m looking for really, beyond it's something I've seen people use and I like it.

>>9861090
I've used House of luxe - paris romance and Tarte PRO Amazonian Clay palette with good success. Depends on your skin tone and other factors.

>>9861107
Heres the Tarte palette pic.

A few threads ago gulls urged me to go see a dermatologist for my acne problems... I finally did, they prescribed me the maximum legal dosage of antibiotics both in pill and cream form. I'm two weeks on and much, much clearer than I've been in years. It's not gone, but it's better, and I'm very thankful.

>>9861107
I have cool tone skin, if that helps. Those both look good, I like the other colors too especially the Tarte one. I was looking at Too Faced Just Peachy Velvet Matte palette but idk about the other colors. thanks anon!

Looking for exfoliator and moisturizer recommendations. I don't usually think my skin is dry, but it gets very flaky (especially on my nose and in-between my eyebrows) whenever I put makeup on. Primer doesn't seem to remedy this. Anything helps, thank you!

>>9860662
>>9860773
I tried both all at once and by applying it little by little and it always looked messy. I'll keep that in mind though.

>>9860666
It's liquid eyeliner. I have some from Kiko and Sephora. I never tried to use pencil eyeliner but if it's easier to use I'll look into it.

>>9860833
Yeah I'm only trying to be able to do a natural lie so far and once I'm able to do that maybe I'll try to learn different things. Thanks.

What's a good basic anti-aging skincare routine? I'm 18 so I guess I'm a bit late to the game but I'm a guy so I've never really been exposed to this stuff before.

>>9860600
What birth control do you use? My current one doesn't really help much so I rely on vitamins and skincare to kinda keep my skin clear.

>>9861881
NAYRT but I've been using Apri for about 8 years. No side effects apart from breast tenderness during the first couple months and it cleared up what (albeit minimal) acne I had.

>>9861361
I have the same problem especially in winter and pretty much fixed it by using the One n Only Argan Oil serum, moisturizer, and cream cleanser and then using the St Ives apricot exfoliating cleanser once every other day.

>>9861798
Daily suncreen moisturizer

>>9861405
For eyeliner it depends on what you want, if you want a graphic not natural look, liquid is the best to use. If you want it to look as natural as possible, go for pencil. You can do a cute little wing with liquid eyeliner for a natural look too but you will always notice liquid eyeliner is there. Pencil is good at just defining eyes if that's your preference. You can also build it up and smoke it out for more definition. Also you can tightline your upper lash like to give the appearance of thicker lashes. That's very easy to do, just make sure your pencil is waterproof!

>>9861957
So is moisturization and UV protection really the only thing I need to worry about? Wow that seems so simple...

>>9860604
Hey, never been recommended this before but doesn’t seem like a bad idea! Thanks!

>>9861798
>18
>late to the game
wat

>>9862418
You should ideally start around 14, and be wearing sunscreen since as soon as it's okay to put it on your face

>>9862432
This means I'm officially fucked, doesn't it? Why even bother.

>>9862550
Bullshit. Do you really think that if you had started wearing sunscreen around 14 that you would be teen-faced for eternity or what? Skincare wont make you stop aging, it just slova down the process and makes it more graceful. But its not the only factor, it is said that dry skin is prone to developing wrinkles and darker skin is more resistant to sun damage. And there are many more things aging depends on.

>>9862550
>4 years late
>might as well neglect the next 80 years then!
are you an idiot

>>9862550
Use it from now on, especially if you come from a sunny location. Just because you didn't wear it for 4 years doesn't mean that skincare is obsolete. Plenty of people discover Korean products later in life and some never. Where I live there is no such thing as sunscreen for face.

>>9862125
Yes, those two steps together with cleaning make the basic routine which can be expanded with products for specific problems (acne, scars, wrinkles etc..)

>>9860719
It should be fine, the acid is often mixed but it's mainly for the purpose of making multi-functional products. Follow the instructions, if the product has any.

>>9861076
Are you using arbutin and niacinamide at the same time? Is your skin okay with it or does it ball, sting or something like that?

My skin gets oily real fast.

I started using cetaphil every morning and before bed. After cleaning my face with it I take a moisturizer and some sort of product after that which is supposed to be the third step.
Cleaning, moisturizer and X.

Is that correct? Is there any skin mask I should throw in every now and then?

What do you think about this? I always dry my face before applying the moisturizer.
>Apply moisturizer right before or after you step out of the lukewarm water, Grossman says. Yes, you read that right—you can moisturize in the shower. And that's actually a great time to do it, Grossman says, since it's the lotion's job to trap the moisture in the skin. She recommends an in-shower moisturizer like Nivea's In-Shower Body Lotion, Soaptopia's Oil Slathers, or even just plain coconut oil (hello, old friend).

>>9831357
Pluck your eyebrows and learn how to make up hooded eyes.

>>9831357
Get your eyebrows threaded, and then look up hooded eye tutorials

>>9863197
Useless for me, I usually have a few steps with actives before moisturizer. Might be okay for your body though, that sounds like what the recommendation is for given they're talking about body lotion...

Anyone using eye masks when they sleep? How often am I supposed to wash them? Am I supposed to throw them in the wash machine?

>>9833282
I love my Thayer's Witch Hazel Rose Water toner. I definatly saw the difference in evening my skin tone and overall look. But then again I havent tried anything else.

>>9863197
The article is definitely talking about body not face. Moisturizer should give you moisture not lock it in your skin. Also dont use coconut oil for face, its very comedonic.

>>9863645
Alright, thanks.

>>9863476
Same as your pillowcase. So at least weekly. I'd use a mesh wash bag in the machine

>>9862866
Yes, I use both and it doesn't sting or ball. I apply the arbutin first, wait 30mins, and then apply the niacinamide. Niacinimide can be drying so I only use it for spot treatments or when I feel like my skin can cope.
I use it in the evening so I have no experience layering it under makeup.
Side note: keep vit C products away from niacinimide. So if you use one in the morning, only use the other one at night.

>>9861090

Tutorial wise, I've used pony's burgundy eye makeup tutorial for classic lolita and it is wonderfully subtle if you don't play the cat eye too much. I love putting a bit of burgundy eyeshadow in the corner of my eyes in general to create a not too smoky look that isn't overpowering.

Also, modern renaissance. Two berry toned shades, and a ton of colors that work with it. You can layer the berry tones onto the light shimmers to get a more subtle shimmer too.

>>9860717
/pol/ reasons? huh??

>>9852693
Not really germane to the thread at hand anymore, but I hope things improve financially for you guys and your daughter learns those lessons of frugality in case of tough times.

>sunlight is bad for your skin
>really enjoy sunlight
This sucks.

Has anyone used the Kryolan camouflage concealer? thinking about buying some! Saw a few people using it and one woman actually blended it with almond oil which had a really nice effect.

I'm a guy, I don't wear any makeup. My skin gets oily really fast. I used to wash it at work during lunch, because my face was so wet. I started trying out some products but none were really helpful in that regard except three.

Every morning and evening I cleaned my face with Cetaphil and then put on Noreva Aquareva as moisturising cream, let it sink in for about 1-2 minutes and then use Noreva Zeniac LP Fort. This one really does the trick, I don't get any oily face at all, when I have it on my face. I never believed in magical cremes but that one is great but it's kinda expensive, I think.

Aquareva is 40ml for about 12.-€ and Zeniac LP Fort is 15.-€ for 30ml. Anyone knows about those two products but got a cheaper product that might be even better? I love the results of them but the price is kinda pushing.

Should I add another product for better results? I'm 29.

I used to have nice skin but since 22 (I'm 26 now) my skin has turned to shit. It coincided with when I moved to Japan and I tried to fix it there but nothing worked (tried a bunch of Japanese products) until I moved back to the US.

Now that I'm in the states my skin is still pretty crappy, but not as bad. Any ideas for what could've caused this/any products that may fix it?? I'm tired of having acne all the time, I thought that was just a teen thing.

>>9865559
I would maybe suggest The Body Shop's Seaweed or Tea Tree line as it's meant for oily skin. The price point is about the same, but you get more product than what you're buying now.

>>9831357
Hello, I'm a person who has hooded eyelids (similar to you) and I also had the same problem with eyeliner not sticking well.

First of all, I'm assuming that you do let the eyeliner dry FIRST before even looking up. Second: Nyx liquid liner does miracles for me. When you do a winged liner, do not go towards the corner of your eyebrow but rather aim lower - towards the top of your ear. That way the eyeliner doesn't get swallowed by your lid. (It does for me otherwise).

If you're not working with a primer yet - please do so! It makes a world of difference and really sets your makeup. I use the more expensive Urban Decay one but I don't think that's necessary when there are cheaper variants around. I'd also suggest putting primer first, then a nude eyeshadow and THEN your eyeliner. It might just be that you have watery eyes and I find that putting primer + eyeshadow really makes your eyeliner last longer.

As for your hooded eyelids and eyeshadow, you need to work your eyeshadow up towards your brow bone. Don't go all the way and touch your eyebrows but definitely work some eyeshadow above your crease.

My eyelids also typically swallow eyeshadow and I'm no pro by any means but putting more eyeshadow towards my eyebrows has helped a LOT.

Not sure what you can do about your mascara though... Other than really letting it dry first. If I look up my lashes also touch brows/eyelid but it doesn't seem to be imprinting. My only advice would be to use a different mascara (possibly) and let it dry. Or in your case, even if I wouldn't recommend it to most, try a waterproof mascara.

Sorry for tldr; I hope it's a bit helpful!

>>9866211
>When you do a winged liner, do not go towards the corner of your eyebrow but rather aim lower - towards the top of your ear. That way the eyeliner doesn't get swallowed by your lid. (It does for me otherwise).
I've started doing this just recently and it's a game changer for sure

What sort of ingredients/products should I look for when it comes to evening out your skin tone? My skin is patchy red, and it's even worse around my nose.

Anyone know any good toners that are easily available in the uk?

I use to get Thayer's Witch Hazel Rose Water toner but have found that I can't obtain in easily now without incurring customs costs as well. Even Japanese/Korean brands seem easier to get. I have combination skin.

>>9860717
>decided to stop because /pol/ reasons
Then you deserve whatever is happening to your face now

>>9866197
>The Body Shop's Seaweed or Tea Tree line
Instead of Cetaphil?

>>9866269
Is it dry and flaky? What products are you currently using?

I recently added Corsx snail 69 with my Ordinary's Niacinamide 10% + Zinc 1% and even after a particularly bad stressed-induced-tearing-my-skin-apart, overnight the redness was almost entirely gone. That with a vitamin c serum has noticably started evening out the damage and texture.

Most people seem to find niacinamide drying but I don't. I will say that while acids never even tingled for me and maybe it's just the brand(haven't tried niacinamide in anything else I don't think) , it does sting a bit if I get it over broken skin.

>>9865559
Seconding something with tea tree oil. I couldn't stand Cetaphil cleansers either. Immediately my skin would get so oily, thick with grease but diluting some tea tree oil afterwards and swabbing it on helped a ton. I use Cerave cleanser now which isn't as greasy and switch between diluted tea tree oil and Thayer's witchhazel with rose water toner now depending on weather and humidity since that directly effects if my face will be an oilslick or a desert.
I don't have any recommendations for products with tto in it though.

This is a weird request but does anyone have any sleep skincare success stories? My skin is pretty bad and although I have a regimen I get hardly any sleep and feel like I don't make any progress. I average on about 3-4 hours per night and I'd like some stories from people who have improved their sleep cycle and seen results in their skin.

>>9866567
I'm currently using Neutrogenas Pink Grapefruit series. Wash + moisturizer. Been trying to incorporate a toner, but they all seem to dry me out, even the ones that are for dry skin. (So if anyone has a good rec for a toner for dry, red skin I'm all ears). I don't tend to get flaky, only during a few months in winter.

I have heard good stuff about vitamin c, but what would be the best product to have it in? The moisturizer? A serum perhaps? And thanks for the rec about ordinary, gonna check it out!

How's Mario Badescu's glycolic acid toner. I want to get rid of my general bumpiness but I'm a little scared to try the ordinary's 7% glycolic acid (I had a bad time with some other acids and had to stop). How have other anons found the formula?

Can I get eyeshadow palette recommendations? I'm white af, wear sweet lolita and larme and I need more pink-y pigmented shadows. Preferably ones that ship to the UK. I have some Too Faced ones that were gifted to me but the pigment is so hit or miss.

Avoiding the Lime Crime drama earlier in the thread, has anyone tried their diamond dew lid toppers? I got one for my birthday and used it twice, and both times I've felt like the bigger pieces of glitter are getting stuck in my eyes when I try to take it off. Any advice on how to avoid this, or should I avoid the product altogether? I do really like the way it looks.

>>9866768
I don't think toners are necessary, really. If you have a good cleanser and moisturizer. I originally bought mine for shaving and just ended up liking how it feels to use after cleansing and before everything else but I would def avoid Thayer's if dryness is a problem. Good for me as it gets more humid and hot out, but I won't use it in the winter myself.

I use Melano CC for vitamin c but I've only tried TO's vitamin c and this one. The texture is easy to spread, only lightly oily but sinks in fast and I don't feel like it just 'sits' on top of my skin which is a big deal to me in products. Isn't gritty(like The Ordinary's, can't stand it so i hardly gave it a chance). Smells pleasant. I like it enough that I've decided to stop using AHA/BHAs for awhile because in nearly a year of using them, they just don't do anything for me. Not bad things either, just nothing while so far vitamin c has faded dark spots from scarring and has helped smooth out the damage from years of compulsive picking, construction work baking in the sun without sunscreen and the scars from a cat who was sleeping on my face one night when the neighbor's decided it'd be a great idea to set off fireworks. It's no miracle by any means but my impatient ass appreciates even vaguest results that don't take a year.

I read good things about Timeless Vit C with freulic acid. Same with NuFountain® C20®+Ferulic Vitamin C Serum(which does not have vitamin e unlike most it seems) but you have to keep it in the fridge as vitamin c serums are prone to oxidation and have a shelf life. My Melano CC hasn't had that problem so far but it could just be the packaging helping keep air out. I probably should, I'm just lazy.

>>9866610
I notice mine gets worse when my sleep cycle gets thrown - I do shift work and have trouble sleeping after night shifts.

>>9867252
I also recommend Melano CC, doesn't oxidize like the c20 from OST did.

>wake up
>feel super dirty and have to take a shower or my day is pretty much ruined
I will get better results when I skip every now and then, right? So, I should endure it?
What about face? Should I wash it every day twice anyway when I have oily face?

Help. I keep buying new face masks when I'm not even 20% done with a different one. I'm guilty of rarely finishing products anyway (except shampoo and conditioner) but I keep seeing cool new masks to try and I cave because I know I'll use them eventually.

Does skin tone affect the type of eye cream I should get for night skincare? I have black skin, what kind of cream do others generally get?

>>9867818
No.

>>9867684
What do you mean by better results? I dont think you need to stop showering twice a day, it isn't a bad thing unless you use inappropriate products (like very drying etc). You should wash your face in the morning and in the evening. The morning wash doesnt have to be as thorough as the evening one, though that depends on the cosmetics you use before going to bed.

>>9852693
>>9849018
I agree. My mom has hormone imbalances that lead to a myriad of problems down the line. She uses medicinal herbs (supplied by her acupuncturist - still not sure if that actually does any good but the herbal teas certainly help her). But that's a band-aid on the hoover dam. Devote your savings to this cause. Although it seems superficial, this is the sort of thing that can definitely have an impact on her mental/emotional state ESPECIALLY after everything she's gone through. You're a wonderful partner for looking out for her like this, I hope you two can find peace in the near future.

>>9866896
Etude House has some cute ones; I haven't tried this particular set but I love my Wine Party one

>>9868561
I’ve been wanting to get more etude house stuff, what’s the best way to order their products online?

>>9868561
How do you find the pigment to be with your Wine Party set? Interested in getting one myself, but would like to know if the colour is strong or whether I have to brush on it on multiple times to show.

>>9868613
none of the etude house shadows are pigmented; they're all sheer washes of color type shadows that are popular in asia

>>9868613
If you want SUPER pigmented shadows, I recommend The Face Shop ones!
I don't know about their palettes, but the little round ones are insanely bright.

Are there any products that get rid of nasolobial folds / laugh lines? I wear sunscreen every day already.

Is it possible to over moisturize? I've been trying to moisturize + sunscreen daily for the last two weeks, and over the last three days I've had a lot of dry skin show up along my jaw line. I know there's the vague chance that I'm just reacting to the weather warming up, but I'm willing to bet it has to do with my product usage.

>>9868939
That's just the way your skin folds over your facial bone structure/muscles, no way to change it with a skincare product!

>>9868613
Did a super quick and rough swatch, they definitely do tend towards the sheer side like the other anon said, but honestly there is a decent pigment in a few of the colours and I dig it, so... (it's actually nice to have some sheerer and some stronger colours in a palette). And for someone who is super pale, how strong do you really need a pigment to be?

So I'm in the process of losing weight, and I mean a lot of fucking weight. Is there any product I can use to help tighten up the skin under my chin/neck so it doesn't sag quite so horribly? I'm worried about loose skin elsewhere too, but that disgusting double chin is the worst. I've heard to use lotion in general, but if anyone has something specific, I'd really appreciate it.

>>9868956
Maybe it's irritation, not (just) dry-ness?
I'm sensitive to super perfumed skincare products and most of the time that results in flakes and dryness for some reason, not the usual bumps, zits, splotches or itchyness.
Perhaps you should try different products?

>>9868999
Vitamin E Oil. Worked really well for my stretch marks and boobs when I lost weight.

>>9868939
I havn't found a way to get rid of them but recently I have been putting a small dab of Burt's bee's eye cream over my laugh lines and really massaging it all the way from top to bottom of them. After I put my foundation on over the top I then use the Elf eye setting powder over the laugh line in small side sweeps down each inch of the laugh line on either side. I don't get the laugh line crease all day its great! I also use the RCMA no colour powder to set my foundation, not sure if that was also a factor to my laugh line creases not showing but yeah! thats my tip.

>>9868939
Fillers

>>9868996
man those look patchy af

>>9869355
It was partially my technique swatching, but yeah they're a bit patchy. Still go on nice enough with a brush and they're really pretty

Could someone give me some recommendations for gel facial moisturizer? I've been using Clean & Clear but it hasn't been working too well for me recently.

I developed cystic acne in my early 20's, and ever since any creamy lotion (not sure the proper term, but anything other than gel it seems) causes me to break out. My skin was doing really good for two weeks with no breakouts, but my skin got really dry due to the sudden heat and I put on some non-gel lotion and today I woke up with a fresh breakout.

At what point should I go to a dermatologist for dry skin?

Around my nose, forehead, eyebrows and hair line it's rather painful because my skin just chunks off in hundreds of flakes constantly. It didn't used to be like this, it's only been the past ~6 months or so. Before that my skin was totally normal.

There's been no change in my pretty healthy diet I can identify and I've tried various routines, including no routine to see if it was something I'm allergic to or whatever. The skin has only gotten worse though.

The day before yesterday was bizarre because for once, I woke up and my skin was actually pretty normal and only slightly dry, not flaking like crazy. But for the life of me I can't figure out if I did anything different the previous day to cause that.

>>9869674
Clinique makes a pretty good gel moisturizer! Though it is on the more expensive side (compared to clean & clear at least). You could also try adding in an essence for a light layer of moisturizer!

Do I have dry or oily skin when my skin gets oily real fast?

>>9869008
Thanks for the input! It didn't even occur to me that being dry and kinda flakey could be a manifestation of irritation. I think it's my sunscreen that's getting me, so I'll look into something a little more... cosmetics related? I'm using Neutrogena, but it's clearly a Before Activities sunscreen, so wearing it all day must be getting to me.

>>9870304
>do I have oily skin when my skin gets oily real fast?
Hm, I wonder

>>9870303
Thank you! I've been using this for awhile now since it's always helped me but my cheeks have been especially dry, so I figured it's time to change it up! I love how the creamy moisturizers make my skin feel, but the acne that comes with it is so painful I just can't do it.

>>9870456
Someone told me my skin gets so oily because it is dry. It makes kinda sense.

I never touched makeup, where do I start? how to know which foundation is for me?

Using supermarket hand cream like Gold Bond and O'Keef's and my fingers still fall apart the second they hit water and I'm not immediately re-applying. What's good for <= $20?

>>9870304
>>9872215
Maybe you have a dehydrated skin. Do you feel tension after cleaning? Do you get dry patches, feelings of "no elasticity"?