/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9879047

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>>9879048
I never noticed the candle logo in this print until now

Can someone please tell me what's in the Mana cocktail?

>how do you cope

Easy. Wait till something that isn’t boring is re-released. So far it’s been boring releases or dresses I already bought in the past. The re-release of the cross jsk was nice, but everything else is soo,what’s the word, boring?

Obligatory

>how do you cope

Not gonna lie, these releases have me feeling fantastic. So happy, already bought one dress, looking forward to buying more.

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>>9879100

>>9879047
>releases
Despite all the releases so far, I'm still more in love with their older work. Especially neo gothic arch in blue.

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>>9879047
>tfw just received a big moitie second hand order
I'll never go back to other brands. Their fabric choices are so damn amazing and high quality, I was blown away. Are OC detail shots okay too?

>>9879111
Please post OC detail shots- I love those.

Requesting Iron Gate JSK coords.
It's easy to find pretty much every other cut except JSKs. I've found maybe 1 or 2 coords that you can tell it's the JSK and not the skirt.

>>9879120
The jsk has the most restrictive sizing so it's less desired than the OP. I haven't seen many myself.

>>9879090
>judging you

>>9879126
why?

>>9879087
I couldn't disagree more

>>9879120

>>9879128
That's just their expression

>>9879123
I've always found their skirts to be more restrictive, so I'm surprised that I see so many of those and so few JSK coords, since the JSK waists tend to be a tiny bit larger (of course not the busts, though).

>>9879130
Thanks, anon! This is one of the only few I could find. Did Lauran ever wear her JSK, or just the OP? I couldn't find a coord photo of hers but she did say it fit her.

>>9879047
I love this OP. I can't believe I didn't know about its existence before. How many other Moitie releases are out there that I don't know about??

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>>9879087
The boring stuff is the hardest to find secondhand. Getting it now is likely the only chance for people who want it.

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>>9879047
I hope someone buys the short black OP, wears it a couple of times or whatever and then sells it to me a few months from now. Because I'm broke af right now but I'm going to need that dress in my life.

More Moitie rereleases!

>>9879155
no shit >>9879052 >>9878991

I kind of want the blue now

>>9879164
I want to like this but it just looks so unflattering. Does anyone have worn pics of the previous release?

>>9879171

Time to sell your rare solids to the highest bidder before Moitie re-releases them

>>9879213
You got me, anon. Went to lm to see if anyone was selling that beautiful dress and found nothing, just the same shit that's been there for weeks.

>>9879213
Nice try anon, nice try. But the first version will always be the best.

>>9879234
Even if it's recreated 100%? Re-releases drive down value so hard, especially if they're spot on.

>would still pay $500 for a re-release of this

>>9879234
I like Royal Gate better than Iron Gate, and pic related has back lacing and comes in different sizes. The original only had waist ties and came in one size.

>>9879234
Pic related has back lacing and comes in different sizes. The original only had waist ties and came in one size. >>9879213 doesn't even have waist ties.

Have some lace detail I snapped at Sakura Con

>>9879240
>Even if it's recreated 100%?
Not possible.

>>9879270
>It's better because it comes in fatter sizes
I'm talking about quality.

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>>9879278
Why would the quality of an old, worn dress be better than a new one? Back lacing gives better fit to everyone. When I wear unshirred Moitie that only has waist-ties, there is a big opening at the bodice. So I have to wear a thick push-up bra and a blouse with tons of ruffles at the front.

>>9879280
This is from a catalogue I won at the Sakura Con tea party.

>>9879286
How many pages are there? Have you considered scanning everything?

Anyone have that photo of a girl wearing two Iron Gate skirts at once?

>>9879285
Better fabric and construction.
And back lacing would look really bad with the pleated bodice.

>>9879287
I have photos of everything on my FB and on a Google photos album but 4chan thinks the link is spam. If y'all want I can dump them all here.

>>9879213
This is my dream dress, and somehow I feel like it won't be re-released. I guess they'll only do the re-releases until they have a new designer. At this point I wish I didn't have a dream dress at all and could just be excited about new stuff.

>>9879278
I'm absolutely sure they can recreate it 100%. It came out 15 years ago, not 50; they can find the same material for it. They have the patterns for it, it's their design, and there isn't even custom lace on it.

>>9879290
What makes you think the fabric suddenly became worse? You're just a speculating culp half empty person

>>9879291
I low-key want to buy a scanner for you

>>9879291
Upload them as an album on imgur

>>9879171
You can tie it lower, like with this shirred blouse

>>9879296
We have a scanner printer combo that drives me absolutely crazy, but might be worth futzing with.

>>9879294
>they can find the same material for it.
They changed their factory and are already struggling to recreate their socks because of it.
>They have the patterns for it
How do you know that?

>>9879296
Did I hit a nerve or something? Why are you suddently name calling?

I took some Moitie floordinates today. I could share some more details, but here is a very large close-up of one their best prints. It's so detailed and sparkles so nice.

>>9879306
You sound unreasonably salty at the idea of other people getting a dress you want.

From my understanding the factory change has only affected their custom lace, not materials overall. And even if they didn't have the patterns, it's their design which chops and screws a bunch of generic staples they've done. They could pull it off exact.

>>9879308
I've had this print for years and am just now noticing them big tiddies

>>9879315
Nice, sideways upload!

>>9879315
Oh dear god is this a mansan tit-shot???

>>9879310
No, I just don't think it will be better than the original. I don't agree with your second statement either, so there's nothing left to discuss.

Candid of the tea party attendees waiting to be seated.

>>9879321
I never said better, I just said same.

>>9879306
They're struggling to recreate their socks? Why would Mana tell you something like that?

>>9879306
>cup half empty person
>name calling
chill lol. jsyk choosing fabric and choosing a factory are two seperate parts of development.

>>9879317
please leave.

>>9879322
>vampire requiem
I guess they didn't have a rule about wearing a moitie main-piece then

>>9879332
It's about the lace. At the Q&A they said they're having a hard time manufacturing lace that holds up to their standards.

>>9879342
Nope, they required accessory at minimum.

>>9879342
A girl I know said that Fake Star said she could get in with a Moitie keychain. No one told her about the extra seats until it was too late, funny how that worked out.

>>9879339
Don't take unflattering manasan-tier pics if you don't want to be paralleled to our Moitie Ita Queen.

>>9879350
Contribute or gtfo

>>9879352
I did a photo dump earlier, ding dong. Massive boob pics where you can't see anything of quality aren't much of a good contribution.

>>9879350
Just appreciate the clothes or go back to the ita thread where you can be your salty self

>>9879350
"Flattering" was clearly not my concern, I was snapping a photo for a friend to show off the embroidery and fabric detail. It was still kicking around on my phone.

>>9879356
kek, so defensive. Take a better shot next time, the coord could be nice if we could even see what's going on with it.

>>9879357
Thank you for contributing something new

>>9879359
You're welcome.
>>9879358
That's nice dear.

>>9879357
Could you post a photo of the full dress? It's nice to see the fabric detail, but really you can't even see the embroidery clearly.

>>9879363
I'll dig it out for you, gimme a sec. Here's the stock.

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>>9879381
Thank you! This is much better than the first pic; it's nice to see what shapes the jacquard make when they come together.

>>9879290
What pleated bodice?

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>>9879392
But >>9879285 is obviously talking about this dress >>9879280

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>>9879392
Only the front of the bodice is pleated, though, so back lacing could work. Although I would prefer it without.

>>9879392
The back of that dress isn't pleated so it could still work. The way it is now, the dress doesn't fit well on most people. See how the front is kind of ''open'' on pic related? People taller than her can look at her boobs. And in the first place I only brought up back lacing because it makes the Cross JSK better.

>>9879398
It's not that bad but I can imagine she has to watch her movements when she's seated

>>9879393
Yes, they mentioned it but the whole conversation was based on Pleats OP and if a rerelease would be the same.

>>9879395
You're right, I forgot about the back. Though it would sit a bit weirdly on the front if you pull the hypothetical corset lacing.

>>9879402
>it would sit a bit weirdly on the front
It sits weirdly on the front already. Imo it's one of those overrated dresses that's only popular because of that GLB pic.

I can't wait for Gothic Arch OP to arrive! Any chance that Mana might do a pre-order on Iron Gate OP?

>>9879523
I think they gave a pretty adamant no on Iron Gate and bs reason why. Something about the artwork is gone, but they might not want to release it so they don't piss off their fanbase who already own it.

I think they'll probably do a different type of gate print in the future, though. Neo-Gothic Arch wasn't the same as Gothic Arch and Royal Gate wasn't the same as Iron Gate, but similar enough to the originals to be super popular.

>>9879523
Nope. Someone asked at Sakuracon, apparently the original art for the print got lost when they switched computers and the person who designed it isn't working for moitie any more.

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>>9879527
Thanks for the info! Aw man, I do hope he makes a new gate anything OP in the future

>>9879345
This makes me weirdly happy. At least we know that when they get new lace, it'll be the good shit.

>>9879535
Mana seems really determined to uphold the quality of his brand. I know a lot of people have said Moitié is losing business because of how stubborn Mana is, but I personally appreciate knowing that my new Moitié is going to look just as nice as my 10+ year old pieces.

>>9879527
Such bs. Jetj got someone to give the dragon dress to then do they could recreate it. Mana could easily get an iron gate to borrow

>>9879558
There's also the fact that Mana likely doesn't want to do an exact rerelease of any print. Reimagining an old print yes, but I can't think of any 1-1 print rereleases except this most recent Neo Gothic Arch one. Even the recent solid rereleases have had slight differences. Just as an example, the Lace Cross JSK rerelease featured the 2006 St. Peter's Cross lace, while the original had 2011 Cross Arch lace.

Personally I'm ok with not getting an IG rerelease, I'd rather see another take on the gate theme, or on other screenprints from the past. New material rather than a greatest hits collection, if that makes sense.

>>9879566
Neo Gothic Arch wasn't even a 1-1 print; they changed the sizing of the art, stretched out the arches, and added more details inside of the windows. It has more going on than the original.

>>9879577
I'm talking about the rerelease of Neo gothic arch that's up for reserve right now. The current reserve is a 1-1 rerelease of last years NGA. Sorry, guess I wasn't clear.

u ever wonder if mana does hrt?

>>9879087
>Boring
Sleeping garden is the opposite of boring. I didn't buy it because I don't like prints. I bought neo gothic arch but I'm afraid I'll never wear it. I didn't buy the cross dress because it was tacky. I don't like short sleeves much so I'm not getting the new one. I really just want some plain jsk's, ops, accessories, and skirts, is that so much to ask?? Now that is probably "boring," which is why it's not released. However, most of us would buy the fuck out of a long sleeved black lace George cross OP and plain socks

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>>9879052
What year are the originals from?

>>9879084
I need to know this too

>>9879171
Just found this one today~

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>>9879608
Some people have different tastes anon. I think sleeping garden is tacky but that won’t stop someone else from liking it. Diffrent tastes for diffrent people.

Personally I want another cathedral print or stained glass print. Those where my favorites.

>>9879304
I'm praying for a rerelease of that damn bear. I know there's one that's been on Mercari for ages but, not for that price.

>>9879795
They sort of teased the idea on their Weibo. Or at least asked us what we would prefer...

Have some more lace detail!

>>9879171
They just released more pics of the current release if that helps.

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>>9879801
Thank you for this! I'd take any color . . .

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>>9879809
Man, I just really love gingham

S O O N

>>9881205
They haven't given any more details for this yet, have they?

>>9879812
Any recomendations for a good petticoat sutable for this legnth/shape?

>>9881363
I have this meta petticoat and it's perfect that exact length and shape; it gives the same look.

However, Moitie made some that are just about the same, too. They come up secondhand fairly often, you just need to keep an eye out.

>>9879133
Found the Iron Gate jsk. Looks like it fits.

>>9879291
Here's some photos of the Moitie catalogue.
https://imgur.com/a/iyNmcu3

>>9882854
Thank you anon! Now to get all of these items up on lolibrary

>>9882936
I sent them a link to the photos like in early april... I hope that they get added! I found a couple of them that are already on there, but don't have any photos, so I hope they can add them.

>>9879584
He identifies as a man.

>>9882854
I'm willing to add them if you could take one page per picture in portrait orientation.

>>9879814
Resetvations for the Juliet OP will be opened on 24th May, 18:00 JST.

>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/996948447327485953

>>9883960
Sure. I'll spend some time later tonight or tomorrow doing it.

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>>9888714
Gotta say I never expected a gothic brand to make a seersucker dress. It works though, especially the white. I bet it's comfy as fuck in the summer.

Hey guys, just wanted to share these two wallpapers i whipped up in ps.

>>9893440
I hope this release does well so we'll get more empire dresses in the future.

>>9888720
Holy fuck, when I first saw this release I thought it had nothing to do with the Moitie that I love, but seeing this I admit I was completely wrong. It's beautiful and I want one now.

>>9893477
I love their empire dresses. Perfect for lounging around in.

>>9893461
Thanks!

>>9879322

>>9893486
Everything they do now are rereleases, so there's nothing different about moitie now

Well these aren't re-releases I guess
>>9893513

Well these aren't rereleases I guess but I'm not sure if Moitie has released fans before
>>9893513

And yesterday they posted again that they are looking for a designer and development manager so I don't think we will get anything completely new this year
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>>9893477
Second to last is legit one of my DDs.

>>9893513
T b h I'm not sad that all we're getting a re-releases.

>>9893525
Me neither. It's so hard to find a lot of stuff secondhand.

>>9882854
Thank you, anon! Even the catalogue is classy.

>>9893528
Size three doesn't hurt, either. I love that I won't have to alter all my stuff.

What else do you think is likely to get re-released? For some reason I don't think they will re-release my dream dress

>>9893521
Fuck. That fabric is beautiful, though.

>>9893543
I don't know if it's likely but I'd love more like this. I just love textured solids.

Just a heads up for all Moitiefags, ebxbexiko on japanese websites is a scalper/reseller. They snatch sinfully cheap moitie and immediately resell it for 10 times more.

>>9893760
Why can't I find this on lolibrary?

>>9893858
It's on there. It's Opal Lace JSK.

>>9893521
I mean, if you follow their weibo, at Comicup they had an exclusive tote with an "unreleased" chandelier print.

"The front is a chandelier that is not yet on sale"
"canvas bags use the new chandelier MmM has not yet released"

couple of google translated quotes from their Weibo.

>>9879584
Jesus Christ, imagine being this retarded. He's a normal heterosexual man. Please, lurk more.

>>9894308
Their socks from the past couple of years also have prints we haven't seen on clothes but that didn't mean anything

>>9893822
I already though that. I wanted to buy a cheap moitié dress, but it was sold before my SS could get it. A few days later she sells the dress for more than 5x the price.

How do you other moitie fags feel about alterations? I use to think it was blasphemous, but as I track down older releases with non shirring, the waist fits but not the bust, or I want the same print with a fuller skirt(like what this girl did in pic related) I'm warming up to the idea more and more.

>>9893822
Where is she finding the cheap moitie to start with?

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>>9888721
Oh my god this is so cute I could scream

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>>9902667

this so many times

>>9879332
simmer down and get your shit right, salt-chan

>>9879352
another anon with a dangerous salt level, this one is much easier to see through

>>9879361
i thought this website was 18+

>>9895011
I'm really confused about what's going on with her body in the second photo

>>9902666
>wearing one of Those Fucking Socks
>with blessed moitie
yo what the fuck

>>9904480
What's the problem with wearing Moitie otks with Moitie?

>>9906132
She's wearing mismatched OTKs, one Moitie, one Baby. Anon is probably referring to the Baby one, since those are pretty popular.

mireianduramirei (Yahoo)/ Märchen@プロフ必読 (mercari) / Gothic (fril) is a scalper too. They bought a moitie necklace that originally belongs to a blouse for 4000 yen on maidenclothing and then tried to sell it 2 days later for 17000 yen.

>>9906499
They did the same with a 1000¥ Silentmoon op from Mercari.

>>9906499
Sometimes you can report scalpers to secondhand shops. If you see a Western reseller doing it you can also report them to personal SS.

Literally what... was this one of you assholes?

http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/l448161543

>>9908457
Yes.

>>9908457
>>9908462
why

>>9908476
Because the person before me set a max bid of 71k yen when it was still on 30k.

>>9908500
yes but why would you pay that much for that dress

>>9908505
Why not?
Why would the other person set a max bid of 71k on that dress?

>>9908519
I guess if you have that much money to burn...

>>9908637
The year that dress was released, simple long moitie dresses went for 40000 - 60000 yen. Moitie was never a poorfag brand, not even second hand.

>>9908661
Other dresses from that era don't go for half as much sometimes, that's why people are asking why

>>9908661
This wasn't a long dress, though, and was almost certainly still under 50000 compared to dresses of the time. I'm curious why it's so special to anon that they went so far over the retail price. 2nd hand these plain dresses almost never get even close to retail.

I'm gonna keep praying to Mana that a physical Moitie store reopens. There's nothing so beautiful as a tastefully elegant gothic shop.

>>9909327
I think it was said at Sakuracon there were no plans for a physical shop. Most likely the closest we're going to get is a pop-up shop somehere in Tokyo. Maybe. Someday.

I'm so sad that Moitie doesn't make skirts anymore

>>9912940
There are tons of skirts second hand, start buying them. It’s crazy cheap too.

I'm thinking about dabbling in moitie.
Im hesitant though, because it is pretty expensive and I don't have the feelings about it many moitie fans seem to... I've liked it for awhile but I'm not crazy about it.
But whenever I look at other gothic brands and coords, I dunno, they just don't compare. Moitie has some "it" quality I just can't describe.
Maybe it really is just the cut and quality? I don't know.
So now I'm wondering if I should mix in some cheaper stuff or just go all in on moitie

>>9913424
Go all in

>>9909327
>>9909330
So, just because I was daydreaming with a couple of friends about this earlier. Moitie posted a job ad the other day and in the details it specifically mentions overseas business trips to China and USA(Seattle). Wouldn't it be nice if that was because they were planning on opening a physical store here?

hey a girl can dream right?

>>9913530
Where did they post about that job?

>>9913537
Sorry, it's on their Facebook. It's a pinned post.

Moi-même-Moitié
1 hr ·
New Release † Cross OP

Design by Alice KobayashiFairy wish

Both colors come in two lengths and sizes each.

Reservations for this series will be accepted from June 21, 6pm.

【Size】

Size 9
Length: 89cm / 116cm
Shoulder width: 33cm
Bust: 90cm
Underbust: 85cm
Sleeve length: 62cm

Size 11
Length: 91.5cm / 118.5cm
Shoulder width: 34cm
Bust: 93cm
Underbust: 88cm
Sleeve length: 62.5cm

Expected to ship in August 2018

>>9914332
Short version in the black colorway.

It's finally been announced, gulls!

>>9914333
this would have been cute without the glittery shit

>>9914332
>>9914333
Oh god, it's perfect. Welp, seems like I have to buy both colorways. Also is that logo bat bag new? I can't remember seeing it anywhere, just the usual version without a logo.

>>9914337
It's a rerelease of the original, the glittery shit was part of the old release too.

>>9914349
i know, but I still think it would be better without the glittery shit

>>9914333
Prices:
Mini: ¥36720
Long: ¥39969
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1007503051933044736

>>9914349
I'm very very sure on that the bat bag is new and it is so much prettier than the cross bat bag

>>9914353
Thank you for adding that part! I posted immediately when I saw the post on the FB page and I don't recall seeing the prices listed there.

>>9914349
No. I don’t think the original has glitter at the lace

>>9914728
But they do at the ribbon.

>>9914768
The ribbon appears shiny on the original one not because of glitter but because of the shiny chiffon material they used.

>>9914781

It was barely visible on the black one though, so you might have a point with that colorway.

mana is a sissy fetishist

>>9914816
At least he looks feminine and not like some nasty sissy with a hairy manface like some of the guys trying to be "lolita"

>>9914870
Stop giving the troll attention dear.

>>9914796
perkele

>>9914332
What in the world are these sizes? What happened to moitie size 2?

>>9914960
Where have you been? Moitie sent out a survey and westerners wanted both clearer sizing and bigger sizes. This release and the other empire dress have Japanese 9 and 11 as sizes. The cross jsk had M and L.

Size 2 is dead.

>>9914970
I guess I missed the results then. That's really disappointing. Guess I'm stuck with secondhand.

>>9914991
I can't tell if you want the dresses to be bigger or smaller.

>>9914994
I'm sad size 2 is gone as it fit me quite well. With how Japanese sellers label things, I'm not excited there will be rereleases in the secondhand market either.

>>9915043
Size 9 or M should be similar. Size 2 was never even one size, I own all sorts of stuff that range from being baggy to barely fitting that was their size 2.

>>9915060
>>9914332
If that's their size 9, then no, it's not similar. It's 10-15cm too big. I do agree though, the previous sizing wasn't very consistant, but at least I could make do with the minimum.

>>9915063
Cheer up anon, it's a sack dress, it's supposed to fit people with less than the max measurements to look cute. I already cringe thinking about all the fatties and and boobloafs waiting to happen who'll try to squeeze themself into it.

>>9915066
Someone did comment about the shoulders being narrow, so it may not fit fatties

>>9915073
>implying that will stop them
I can already see the resignation sales 5 months later, with ripped seams and everything.

>>9913424
Well this is a good time to start because there are a lot of re-releases but only until they find a new designer

>>9893543
I really, really hope they will re-release holy queen and ritual

>>9915066
True, I guess I was just hoping for some of their more fitted dresses and skirts.

>>9915073
But that is interesting that they did leave the shoulder width so narrow, preventing it from fitting the people they were trying to accommodate.

>>9914795
This is a re-release of the high waisted cross jsk happened sometime around 2009?2014? To celebrate its 10th?15th anniversary. It has the newer label with a blue base X white letters which does not exist in the original one released back in 2001.

>>9915341
Still looks like the same glitter.

Received the new Neo Gothic Arch OP in black and silver today. It's absolutely beautiful. A little big (and I wish they made a size S), but wonderful quality.

>>9915617
The original op was also big, so not surprising. You should have done the jsk

>>9915342
There is no glitter in the original one. It appears as if there is glitter only because the ribbon on the original one has gold thread threaded into it.

>>9915659
post some closeups of the original

>>9915617

Congrats anon! I have mine coming in the mail as well and am super excited.

JRock News has been doing some interviews with Mana lately.

>https://www.jrocknews.com/2018/06/interview-mana-talks-future-of-lolita-fashion.html
You can find the rest under the "exclusive" tab.

>>9915073
The person who commented doesn't look like a fattie to me tho. Fatties will try to squeeze into dresses way above their size no matter what.

How high are the chances that moitie will re-release their shoes?

>>9919117
Read the interviews that >>9917121 mentioned. They seem open to doing a bunch of stuff, but it didn’t sound like it was a for sure.

>>9915617
I got my JSK and I absolutely love the ribbon shoulder straps and the fact that the fabric seems lighter than Moitié's usual. Summer goth just got easier.

>>9920402
Gulls I'm so glad it seems like they'll (re)release regularly again. Might as well open a new savings account just to throw money at moitie.

>>9920402
Aww, how charming.

Personally I've decided to get the long version but haven't settled on a colorway.

>>9919261
That's awesome anon! I'm glad that Moitie is putting out all of these releases!

>>9919261
I'm a bit mad at mine. The shoulder ribbons are fraying because two of the four weren't sealed, and the sizing is hella off. The waist of mine is large enough to pull over my bust.

>>9920403
Rereleases were never a regular thing though. They only did them to celebrate brand milestone anniversaries.

>>9920405

A lot of people seem to be getting the long one, but you really can't go wrong on the colour because both are so perfect.

I got the black short OP, hope I don't ragret not getting the longer one.

had anyone ever asked Mana about releasing wrist-cuffs?

I just pre-ordered the long black high waist cross OP, eek!
Their page also said this: "Due to shared stock, this product may already be sold even if you successfully place an order".
Hope I wasn't too late with pre-ordering though, that would be a bummer.
And I hope the long version doesn't look shit on me since I'm a hobbit-sized individual haha.

>>9929328
That is just a catch all phrase because their stuff is sold at other sites. But it means more for instock items not reserves.

>>9929332
I hope so, first I thought this pre-order might be mto but then I read that phrase and started doubting.

>>9929328
Hnnngh. The only thing stopping me from buying this dress are the shoulder measurements.

why does it have to be so fucking hard to find and get secondhand moitie? all i want is to surround myself with beautiful gothic perfection. which...i guess it's so hard because so does everyone else.

>>9934463
People don't want to pay 300 euro for solids so I don't want to sell mine

>>9934463
Lack of stuff released tends to do that. There are always a few things out there but it never had the sales that would lead to many things bring on the market. Buy new to support them in releasing good shit.

>>9934463
Not many people buy it. Afaik only 1 girl in my comm bought something from Moitie this year.

>>9934463
Most people who buy Moitie buy to keep. They also tend to do a lot of solids, or more toned down print/embroidery pieces, which doesn't have a very high resell value with most lolitas.

>>9934563
Pretty much this. Moitie girls are hoarders and if you sell a dress you might never find it again.

Also just a slight feel
>tfw laundry day
No matter how many times I've put Moitie through the wash I'm always terrified thinking this'll be the time I ruin the lace, even with a delicates bag in cold water.

Also I can't be the only one who has spent hours with a needle re-tacking down the ends of the lace embroidery. Can I?

>>9934482
i understand most people won't, but i'll pay 300 euro for a good moitie solid, anon. i'm so desperate for good older moitie that i'm sick over it, especially after missing out on rosenkreuz when it came up on LM yesterday.

>>9934484
you're right, anon. i really want to support their new releases more because i've enjoyed what they've put out recently and i want them to keep it up.

>>9934563
unfortunately solids and toned down prints are what i prefer...i can't blame people for not wanting to let them go, especially because like you said, they're generally underappreciated.

>>9934623
I've never done that

>>9934632
Closet child sells old moitie for really cheap sometimes, just not in their webshop. Follow their twitters.

>>9934661
How fast do things sell in their physical stores? Pic related is 2100 yen

>>9934667
That sold awhile ago. Things go almost instantly in store.

>>9934661
Thank you, anon. Is asking Tenshi to inquire in-store about the items my best bet, or is there another SS I should try?

>>9879048
I just bought the OP in this colorway. I've never bought a Moitie piece at all and I am really excited. I am ready to be apart of Moitie lovers.

>>9934482
Seconding >>9934632 I paid 600 Euro for my old moitie dreamdress. People who want it will be willing to pay the price.

>>9934482
Shit anon, I live for Moitié solids, I'd pay well over that.

>>9934623
I dry flat and gently reshape the lace...

>>9934667
If it's a very cheap or popular item, between 20mins and an hour. And now that anons are slowly spreading knowledge about the shops and twitters, it'll go even faster.

too cute

>>9935164
now that anons are slowly spreading knowledge it'll go even faster
pretty sure you can't get a shopping service to buy something from a physical shop within 20 minutes

>>9935164
>now that anons are slowly spreading knowledge it'll go even faster
pretty sure you can't get a shopping service to buy something from a physical shop within 20 minutes

>>9935722
Depends on how you handle it.

>>9935716
I loved them in the scrunchy picture but like this they look kind of cheap.

>>9935743
It's not an expensive scrunchy

>>9935758
Yeah, that must be it

>>9935743
Does your SS work at a physical closet child store or something?