/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9904963
Blessed image

>>9904972
They're dead anon

Is Mana Moitie's mascot?

>>9904975
Oh...

How does one order from LIEF?

>>9904986
No, that's Snoopy.

>>9904995
You can use Atelier Pierrot's website. If it's an item not on the web shop, just email them.
>http://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?mode=cate&cbid=2346037&csid=0&sort=n

>>9904986
There are some actual goods with a chibi mana so I think that’s it. He loves Snoopy but I think Moitie needs a pet bat.

>>9904995
>>9905106
Or you can email the Korean shop.
>http://m.lief.co.kr/board/free/read.html?no=276&board_no=3
Depends if you want to pay shipping from Korea or Japan.

>>9904986

They have a bear. Although I haven't seen him in a while either.

>>9905115
That is a pretty generic looking bear.

>>9905117

Yeah, seems like the most Moitie thing about it is it's in a coffin, and it's cute. But it has multiple releases and different versions, so it's the closest thing to a mascot.

>>9905115
I believe they were asking the Chinese if they wanted to see it get re-released.

>>9905127

Really? I hope it gets a re-release, I was always bummed I got too late and missed the Moitie lipsticks and bears.

If Mana can sweet talk his way into doing a blue Snoopy collab I'd buy that too (bear seems more realistic though)

>>9904986

>>9905139
>If Mana can sweet talk
>Mana
>talk
I see several problems with this idea.

>>9905119
>that lace
Yikes.

>>9905139
I believe it was asked on weibo or twitter or something like one or two months ago.
The lipsticks are easy to obtain secondhand though, also unused from collectors.

This video on youtube by Lauren Messiah explores some research that suggests wearing replica objects makes you feel bad. She covers studies involving both adults and young children with generated similar results.

>www(.)youtube(.)com/watch?v=uzptuXrcIvo

I find this really interesting because it might be something to consider bringing up with new Lolitas. Of course there are people who feel fine with wearing replica items, but I think it's important to talk to new people coming into the fashion about how it could create a negative association with Lolita in their minds if they are not careful to pay attention to their feelings.

>>9905261
I’d like to swatch one to get the closest color match in a new lipstick and de-pot it into the mmm tube. Lipsticks go bad after a time, even un-used.

>>9905234

oh lol I set myself up for that one.

>>9905261

The lippies don't bother me as much, last I heard they still send the lippies out in the lucky packs, but I wasn't able to snag one this or last year so I can't confirm. The bear though, is it my luck or is the coffin case version hard to find?

>>9905223

omg someone should ask Moitie to re-release this.

Does anyone have an organza petti and a hard tulle one? Which one is poofier, and what is the benefit of the organza one.

I have MeLikesTea's Hard Tulle poof monster which was massive poof but deflated over the years. Now I'm not sure which material to choose for the best giant poof. Organza doesn't seem like it gives that much, compared to hard tulle, but is popular, so I'm curious.

>>9905344
Tulle is crap, it relies on stiffness to achieve volume and is bound to lose its poof eventually, while organza is a soft fabric that relies on layers for volume.
I've had one tulle petti literally a decade ago when I was a dumb newbie, never bought another one since. The poofiest petti I own now is from Wunderwelt, it has two layers of organza with the fabric folded over, so technically they're four layers, and it's a poof monster. I don't foresee it losing its volume anytime soon.
TL;DR: Pick a petti made out of organza, organdy, or even chiffon if you can find one. The more layers it has, the more durable it is.

>>9905344
Organza is the best. I've owned both AP organza and AP tulle pettis and the organza one is much poofier, higher quality, and hold up heaver fabric better.

>>9903725
Looks like the same pink as Cecilia Cross to me, but that's just a guess.

>>9905344
I bought a moitie petti secondhand 3 years ago and it's still going strong..

>>9905109
>>9905106
>>9904995
It's easier to email them. Just follow the instructions on their fb posts

>>9905359
man i love-hate that colorway so much. the pink is kind of lavender like and makes coordinating it a royal pain.

>>9905344
Hard tulle is amazing when you first get it because it's super light and super poofy. With wear and storage, it will flatten. It might take six months, it might take two years, it just depends on your lifestyle.
Organza relies on layers as well as it's natural volume. It will be a little heavier than tulle. Organza lasts a very long time with proper storage (don't crumple it up and shove it in a tiny space!) and is very comfortable to wear. I expect you can get a few years out of an organza petti.
Voile is the fabric that will last longer than the nail polish on your toes. It doesn't quit, ever, because all it is is layers of amazingly soft fabric creating volume. It is heavy, tough, and well suited for velvets and thick cottons.
I have had all three, and I adore organza for how light it is, but for the interest of budgeting and a long lasting petticoat, I went for voile from MeLikesTea. I still recommend organza for comfort and shape.

>>9905344
>>9905353
>>9905356
>>9905476
Chiffon never deflates. You can vacuum pack it and it will spring back out and just require a quick fluff. But good luck finding and altering them, there’s a trick to it to get the right lolita shapes. And I don’t know of a good pattern for one, unfortunately. http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2010/10/petticoat-woes-and-why-i-dont-have-them.html

>>9905476
This is great info, thank you. Will voile be too tough for chiffon dresses?

>>9905485
I sort of agree, I have one I tediously modified. While it's held up for the most part it has deflated a little over the last year. I think it's what happens with voluminous clothing if you wear it frequently.

>>9905476
>longer than the nail polish on your toes
Really weird thing to say

>>9905492
Would you have rather I compared it to a cockroach? A Twinkie?
I don't know about you but my nail polish will stay through anything.

>>9905501
Normally nail polish on your feet get much more damage than on your fingers unless it's gel

>>9905510
>have been wearing the same Sally Hansen simple nail polish for over a month now
>only one chip and minor scuffs, growth gap notwithstanding

Maybe some of us are just a little lucky. I've seen memes about how long toenail polish lasts a few times, so I'm not the only one who is in awe of how long it lasts. I even googled 'toe nail polish meme' and saw at least four if you're curious.

Getting back on topic, has anyone tried brand nail wraps? Do they run small, or are they similar to western wrap sizes?

>>9905510
What shoes are you wearing, Anon? My pedicure lasts 3 weeks with an added layer of topcoat 1/2 way.

With all the glb patterns over the years and the many issues of otome no sewing, why aren’t we seeing more decent handmade things in lolita? Is chasing brand prints such a big deal that so few will even bother to make a solid dress or a grandma couch floral or pretty stripe thing sometimes? Most lolita patterns are intermediate skill level.

>>9905115
Bears don't seem super gothic. Why couldn't it be something like a bat?

>>9905578
Because finding fabric is a job in itself.

>>9905578
>Most lolita patterns are intermediate skill level.
If your skill level is zero, then this is unattainable. Many people don't have someone to teach them - not only how to sew, but also how to select the best fabric for each project. Yeah, some fabric stores offer classes, but that requires you to live near one.

>>9905580
it doesn't have to be your idea of super gothic. it's a gothic LOLITA brand.

>>9905578
>>9905592
I want to learn, but honestly I just can't find the motivation to work on simple shit I know I won't use. And there's no fabric store anywhere near me, though there is a fabric market twice a year with stuff that isn't good enough for lolita imo.

If your comm meets monthly, how often would you expect to repeat a main piece in a year? 12 meets, 12 main pieces? 6? 3? How many are just enough? How many are ideal?
How many main pieces do you own?

>>9905630
You can coord a main piece different ways, so maybe 2-3 repeats a year if you have various blouses/accessories. Some main pieces are easier to coord in various ways. I think sweet lolita is easier to coord in lots of styles, since there are often several colors you can coordinate with different blouses and tights.

>How many are just enough? How many are ideal?
That's completely subjective and dependent upon your budget, your desire to collect/wear more pieces, and your financial ability to expand your number of main pieces.

>>9905630
I'd say absolute minimum of 3 main pieces so I was not just trading 1-2, 1-2 each time. 6 is good, only using each 2x. 12 is ideal, no repeats of a main piece in a year. I have not counted my main pieces, its more than 12 though. One thing I really notice is shoes and how people neglect them, and have way too few pairs and many are just not good for lolita.

Don't skimp on the shoes!

>>9905630
I don't go to meets at all but I mostly have skirts so I can mix and match a ton and wouldn't have to wear the same coord to any meet.

>>9905679
People notice the pattern or print on the main piece so even with skirts, more than 2 would be good. Even then, you'd be wearing same old every other time.

>>9905578
I am novice at clothes even though I've been sewing for years. I just can't get patterns to adjust to fit my proportions, they're always huge in the waist and tiny in the shoulders. I don't understand who patterns are made for. Tired of wasting fabric and getting nothing out of it so I never get better

>>9905690
Learn to make a bodice sloped for your proportions and adjust your patterns based on that. Learn your body shape and use flattering styles for it. Between those two hacks, your stuff should start fitting and looking better. For lolita, learn back shirring and corset lacing. Then fir to your shoulders.

>>9905695
*bodice sloper

>>9905567

I've tried the AP and Qpot ones. It's usually the thumbs that are really narrow, but I'm not sure if I just have wide thumbs (am an Asian so you'd think they'd fit lol). The difference is not a lot though, usually you can just see like a tiny strip of your nail outside the nail foil on either side, so it still looks pretty good.

I'd say go for it if you like them. I wish I'd bought more now that the company that used to collab with AP seems to have vanished.

>>9905690

Adding to >>9905695. If you find pattern drafting somewhat daunting, there's a few places like patternlab.london where you can buy a custom pattern for yourself. Just plug in numbers and then let someone else draft the pattern for you.

If you get a basic sloper, you can learn how to modify the patterns into dress patterns and blouse patterns. Take the GLB and OnS patterns as inspiration for how to put together things, but use your own custom-size patterns and modify them instead of using the pattern sheet that comes with the GLB and OnS.


Handmade thread is here >>9887481
If anyone else feels like sewing or has questions.

>>9905887

>>9905894
what is the name of the thingys in her neck that are part of the blouse

>>9905695
The shoulders is the hard part, I will have to try like other Anon said and get a custom pattern. I have tried and tried to measure and adjust and add but it looks so bad when I have to add in more fabric at the top part of a jsk or blouse after cutting it wrong and then try to get the waist to not be a huge baggy sack

>>9905896
..
straps.

>>9905896
People usually call them neck ties.

>>9905908
This video is really useful anon. But should probably be in the handmade thread.
>https://youtu.be/lKhTiorzDJ0

>>9905887

>non-adjustable shoulder straps
>my long torso

Ah eff it. I'll just get it first and take it to a tailor's after it gets here.

Is anyone else debating ivory and white? I had Shadow Dream Carnival in white and it's beautiful with pink, any opinions if ivory would work better with pink?

>>9905578
Honestly because making actual clothes is fucking hard and very expensive in the west. I am a novice and I only use Otome no Sewing for accessories, or smaller easier items.

On the other hand I think they really helped the Chinese market take off. Many Taobao dress patterns can be found in OnS and GLB or resemble AP cuts. It's much easier and cheaper to get nice fabric and trim there. Notice that pretty much all Western brands severely lack in trim, lace and detail, yet charge $200-300 while Taobao dresses can have a lot of trim, lace and dangly details for only like $100.

>>9906022

I don't think taobao is using GLB/OnS patterns -- the funky ones are using designs you don't even see in GLB/OnS, meanwhile the shitty shops are so shitty I've seen one that's on Yumi King level bad, definitely not using GLB/OnS either.

Agree with you on why it's easier to just buy a dress rather than invest time and money into learning how to sew (assuming you're standard size and fit into most clothes easily), but.

I don't think that's what OP is asking, though. People can and do take up sewing clothes as a hobby, so regardless of how easy it is to throw $100 at a taobao store it has nothing to do someone sitting at home cutting and running fabric through a sewing machine to turn into a dress, the same way you can buy a poster but some people still put paint on paper and draw decent art. Yet with all the GLB and OnS patterns out there, people still kind of make really ugly dresses when it comes to lolita.

I'm with the anons who said half the battle is finding decent fabric, but also I think some people just have bad taste. Somehow there's always that person who thinks if she's making a three-tiered dress it would be awesome if each tier was a different colour that didn't go with any of the other tiers, or that purple is wonderful with khaki, or if they're already fat then they don't need a petticoat, a billion other incredibly tasteless design decisions.

I actually don't think they're any more handicapped or worse than normal people, but rather with normal clothes you only make a small tiny body-fitted dress instead of using 3 metres of eye-blinding fabric. You'd also wear a bright normie dress with some minimal shoes and accessories, minimising the impact, but with lolita you would a head-eating bow out of the same eyesore fabric, rings and jewellery, fart some wristcuffs out of whatever junk is left over, a "matching" bag, and then a frilly blouse. The lack of taste just adds up really quickly.

>>9905887
Beautiful solid dress by AP? Yes! I'd like people to give more love to solid releases from sweet brands

>>9906108
Some follow recommendations of lolitas that make(some) of their dresses? I want to say maijuline on ig,and 20dollarlolita for good tips and tutorials on tumblr

>>9906225
https://mylolitahandmade.tumblr.com/
She makes the majority of her wardrobe by hand, if not all of it.

>>9906223
It actually does have a print, but it's very subtle.

>>9905894
What’s the name of this print?

>>9906246
Holy Learn To Use Google

>>9906022
Taobao brands are actually buying the original dresses from the Japanese brands, dissecting the pieces into their individual parts and reconstructing the pattern from there. That's why there are so many new brands popping up lately resembling Jane Maple, ETC/Leur Getter lately. Almost nothing you see from those new brands is using an orignal pattern. Even older taobao brands like Krad Lanrete like to use design elements from JetJ and the like.

>>9905998
Tailoring dresses to have adjustable shoulder straps is worth it. I also have a long torso, and I'm on the thin side of average by Western standards. It took a professional tailor to convert the straps, but it worth it. The dresses look so much better and fit more comfortably.

Anyone else not getting email notifications when they have a new message on LM? I just noticed the issue yesterday.

My inbox on LM is operating as normal when I go to the site, but I'm not getting the emails telling me I have a new message.

Not sure if I should report the issue - anyone else notice the same thing?

>>9906417
I get the emails just fine.

>>9906417
Seems to be working fine for me, but if it persists you should report it anyway.

No new ita thread?

>>9906439
Feel free to start a new one.

>does closetchild wash the dresses they sell before shipping them out?

>how THE FUCK do you wash an AP jsk without red ink bleeding?

too scared to even send mine to the dry cleaners- every time i ask someone they never have an answer besides spot cleaning. thats gross. there has to be a non gross way.

>>9906439
I never understood why someone would willingly look for itas

>>9906535
Just take your dress to the dry cleaners goddamn. I called around my area to talk to the managers at different dry cleaners to find someone who I felt comfortable sending my stuff to. Basically, I just wanted a place where the employees were native English speakers (so I could be sure instructions were understood) and who was able to clean dresses with petroleum-based cleaner only for my dresses that had that requirement.

No CC doesn't wash their dresses and please for the love of god dry clean your clothing if that's the only option for cleaning.

>>9906544
I do take them to the dry cleaners, I've never had issues actually. It's just red prints that I worry about that I'm too chicken to take. Have you taken a white AP dress with a red print to the dry cleaners before?

>>9906539
I find it interesting. Some outfits have some potential. Especially for meme drawing

>>9906563
Not red and white, but I've taken some pretty crazy meta prints to the dry cleaners and never had an issue.

>>9906539
Nayrt, but I'm collecting photo examples. Not to put anyone on the spot, just for general 'do this not that' examples. Plus it's like the car wreck thing, can't look away. It's amazing what people do in the name of this fashion sometimes and also amazing what makes people unreasonably buttmad.

>>9906385
This. The diy extensions people try to do usually look like crap but well done, it's really a godsend. I am 30% less crabby when my shoulder straps fit and my jsk waist sits correctly as a result. People who aren't short-waisted need to get over it and customize their dresses unless they are just flipping them.

>>9906633
thanks anon, well ill try dry cleaning them- wish me luck, ill keep you posted. hopefully they dont bleed, but i cant wear them or sell them anyway knowing they smell like bo

>>9906535
All of my red AP and BTSSB dresses are made of cotton, so I just put them in the washing machine (on cold, delicate) with a Shout color catcher sheet. I've never had a problem with bleeding

>>9906681
>>9906671
Unless you mean to be namefagging, you should probably remove that "Sage" from your name field...

>>9906778
Wow really? Do you mind if I ask you what prints exactly? Thanks

Lor's video on Paradiso is now up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6o3ur1XH9s

>>9906964
I honestly don’t think Lor is that great of a lolita. What were her big ‘responsibilities’ at this weekend event?
I watched her Wunderwelt review after watching this and my overall impression is that she’s really focused on herself, her preferences, her views to the point that she’s not really helpful or educational. Her ‘shit lolitas say’ were at least entertaining. Also, the whiny voice and weird worried looking face expressions she makes do not help her impressions.

>>9906972
I think she tries to stay relevant in the fashion.
Her unfortunate face is better suited for comedy rather than serious stuff.

>>9907174
I’m not dissing her looks, or her fashion sense for herself, I have no problem with either. Her event report and the review I watched just seemed so completely self-absorbed and self-focused that I’m not really clear on why they would be interesting or useful for anyone to watch. I wasn’t interested enough to watch any more of her videos to puzzle it out either.

>>9906229
yeah but her sewing is terrible. those horrible tube bodices and lazy use of ribbon instead of jsk straps make me hate her so much

Moitie's Rose Cross Lace Chokers will be up on their webshop on Monday, the 11th. The chokers will be available in blue x black and black x black.
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/1005026585521545217

>>9907251
So they either got their lace troubles sorted out or this is how they are using up remaining old lace until the new lace is sourced? I’m concerned because the distinctive lace is something I really like from Moitie.

>>9907251
This is just lace with a sewed on ribbon

I might be moving to either Melbourne or somewhere in Scotland for school. Which of these is better for lolita regarding climate, local comm(s), overall culture, shipping from Japan and import costs? Of course I’m not letting my decision depend on this entirely but I wear lolita almost daily so it’s something I want to take into account.

>>9907254
And a dress is just cloth sewn into cylinders.

>>9907256
>anywhere in europe
>better shipping from Japan and import costs
Ho boy, are you in for a wild ride. Also prepare to pay 20+ Euro more for main pieces if you use paypal thanks to their exchange rate alone.

>>9907253
They've been using scrap/leftovers for things. So far I've seen Rose Cross (2007), Cross Arch (2011), Holy Cross (2010), and St Peter's Cross (2006). If you look, Neo Gothic Arch has different lace on the OP and JSK, which is an odd choice. Same goes for the NGA headdress, could have had a variety of laces. I'm betting they're just using what they have.

>>9907265
still more effort than just slapping a ribbon on lace

>>9907180
>covers the event, content, vendors, people's coords
>self absorbed
wat

W iTF is this shit (post from Rufflechat), why did admins only lock it without any mention or explanation and not delete the tread nor the person?

Is there something I missed that makes the poll relevant but non-discussable?

>>9907256
Scotland!

>>9907272
I guess they should all just stop making chokers, socks, wrist-cuffs etc

>>9907281

Locking it can be reversed, they can talk to the girl and figure out what's going on first. Deleting means everything's gone forever.

I agree with you, this is just ..... like is this person, are they ten? Why'd they post this? Is this their first time on the internet? Is it ageplayers trying to rp? What even.

But as mods I guess they figure locking it while they figure shit out is at least reversible while deleting it is not, even though some of them might privately feel it should have been deleted.

>>9907273
Nayrt, but every time she stopped to talk it was about herself. She did cover a lot of content, but a lot of it was about her personal experience (like making friends, personal emotions, seeing supprters, showing items people made her, to much time on specific indie brands she liked) which desu I don't care about. It was way too long for a not so great review. Not to mention her pronunciation is terrible.

>>9906225
20dollarlolita is a tacky ita with a chip on her shoulder towards brand though

can u style gucci with classic lolita

>>9907376
Of course you can. Anything with the right aesthetic and quality works.

>>9907376
Why the fuck not? Stupid question

>>9907256
Melbourne Aus? Climate good for wearing lolita? Not year round, that's for sure.

My girlfriend wears lolita on a regular basis, usually classic or gothic, and I'd like to coordinate with her a LITTLE, since we go out on dates and tea sometimes. However, when I try to find male equivalents, it's all super fucking cringey steampunk garbage or "four hundred year old homosexual vampire" apparel. Am I pretty much just stuck with dress shirts and blazers? I wanted something subtle but kinda unusual to pair with her. Any online stores cater to this or is it niche as fuck?

>>9907376
S, no.

>>9907402
If you actually want to coordinate with her then go big or go home. The "homosexual vampire" look you hate is called Aristocrat and yes, that's the male lolita equivalent.

>>9907422
But her casual tea coords and stuff for lolita are fairly subtle and not ridiculous. I guess I could buy a duplicate of one of her dresses and get the patterned fabric repurposed into a dress shirt or jacket. I just want to match without being ridiculous.

>>9907402
It's pretty niche, you'll need to be creative to put together something that's subtly different and not outright alternative.
Take the dude on the right in this pic as an example: >>9906247 If it's too much for you, you can leave the bowler hat out and switch the bowtie with something else like a ribbon tied into a nice bow. It's not ouji but still more dressed up and fancy that regular normie fashion, and will look nice next to a gothic or classic lolita. If you really want to match your girlfriend, look for pieces in colors that match hers.

>>9907428
Not a terrible idea but instead of ordering an expensive dress to cut up, look for replica fabric.

For example, if she has a Melty Cream Donut dress, you could get just Melty Cream Donut replica fabric on taobao and take it to a tailor.

>>9907402
Why don't you just wear goth or something that suits you

>>9907443
Don't support replica makers, your girlfriend will break up with you

>>9907402
Just wear lolita too. You can do twin coordinates if you want.

>>9907446
I think using replica fabric to make matching men's clothes is possibly the best use of replica fabric yet. Brand doesn't sell yards of their fabric, nor do they pattern it for men, so this is literally the only way for him to actually twin her outfit without crossdressing or destroying an authentic dress.

>>9907453
You're still giving money to replica makers and encouraging them to make more replicas, even if you only buy fabric.

>>9907402
Unless you're into punk or the male hooker look, male jfash is very niche, and you don't sound any open minded at all to try and look around. It sounds like you're after something like pic related when you say "subtle but unusual"? I'd say go vintage or high end men's wear.
>t. vintage by day, 400 year old homosexual vampire by night

>>9907443
>>9907453
>>9907402

Dude, just pick stuff in your own wardrobe that's the same colour as her outfit and build your own outfit so it echoes the colours in hers. It's not brain surgery, this 60-something couple can make it work with two different outfits without ever using the same fabric from the other's outfit, and your creative young brain is derping over this for some reason.

You said your gf is goth and classic anyway, so no melty cocoa donuts replica fabric should ever be involved anyhow.

>>9907465
This is so cute, holy shit.

>>9907461
I don't think one misguided but sweet gesture from some clueless boyfriend making a replica Baby dress shirt is going to encourage China any more than the thousands of fattychans and itas buying replica dresses enmasse on the daily.

>>9907469

They have an insta! @bonpon511

Here's another couple outfit from a random ameblo for boyfriend OP. I'm having trouble finding the right hashtags for couples outfits in Japanese.

>>9907281
But more importantly....which did you vote for?

>>9907402
Atelier Boz Roland Jacket
Or a modern suit with a great cut and vary your ties.

>>9907443
>>9907453
What part of ‘no replica prints ever’ do you not get? 6 years after the big replica ban and people still beat this drum. Gtfo with replicas, there is no good excuse for them ever.

>>9907477

Found one who has a blog with a lot of couples outfits, but I can't figure out how to make the photos bigger.

This one from google image that led to her blog. Maybe someone else can figure it out, or OP can find inspo from the small tiny thumbnails...


http://www.dclog.jp/Keimero/5/

>>9907470
That’s exactly how it’s propagated and continued, anon, one speshul snowflake case at a time thinking their personal reason for using a bootleg is good enough to bypass the ‘no replicas’ thinking, they are the special exception. Just no.
Zero tolerance. Jeez.

>>9907481
>I don't like replicas so they don't exist

China doesn't care about your hurt feelings.

>>9907489
>it's a bootleg when it wouldn't ever exist in the first place

>>9907491
It's fabric. It encourages others to buy replica fabric. Doesn't matter what you're making with it, it's still illegal and supports a sleazy industry.

>>9907273
I went to Kansas, I got prezzies, oh look, new friends, oh look people like me, and I did a lot of stuff and I like this and I like that and...
That’s not good event coverage, it’s a bad travelogue. Part of the reason small events have guests like Lor is for the event coverage to encourage more people to be interested.
Also, she was in a nice hotel in the room block, why was she sitting in the dark on the floor with a dull background?
She’s really awkward in person. And on day 1, she wore a dress with a fully showing x-back bra and a tangled wig. Not impressed.

>>9907453
>destroying an authentic dress.
That's what replica makers often do in order to copy it

>>9907482
That's the normal side of pictures in Japan desu

>>9907490
They exist but they don’t have to exist at our meets and in our groups and banning them and speaking out against them discourages people from buying them if they can’t wear them to meets. I’m doing my part for that. When someone suggests ‘replicas’ in my hearing, I always say ‘no replicas’.
>>9907491
The iP theft of logos and brand prints is on the fabric, are you dense?

>>9907482
That's the normal size of pictures in Japan desu

>>9907514

The rest are sized like this though.

>>9907596
She's probably taking them on an old crappy flip phone.

>>9907402
What does she suggest and what do you usually enjoy wearing?

Why do lolitas love spoonfeeding people like >>9907402 so much? Is it because it's about a love relationship? is it because it's possibly a hetero man? If it was anyone else they would be told to go to the dumb question thread or google

>>9907620
It's a genuine question from someone who appears to want to do a nice thing for someone he cares about. It's not hurting the general, and it's not encouraging all the newbies to come out of the woodwork asking "how do I order from Fril?" and "what petticoat should I buy?"

"lolita general" doesn't mean "ban any sentences that end in question marks and tell people who use them to fuck off to the other thread."

>>9907625
I know what it means. But people on here have a different reaction if it was the exact same question from someone else.

>>9907625
>I want to try to match with gothic and classic lolita. However, when I try to find male equivalents, it's all super fucking cringey steampunk garbage or "four hundred year old homosexual vampire" apparel. Am I pretty much just stuck with dress shirts and blazers? I wanted something subtle but kinda unusual. Any online stores cater to this or is it niche as fuck?
I mean would this have the same reactions?

>>9907605

Too bad for us, the couple looks lovely, and doing this without unimaginatively needing clothes made from the exact same fabric.

Oh well.


>>9907620

desu when "he" posted I had my doubts, because he said goth and classic like it's a normal thing. Not "she says it's called goth and classic" just "she wears x", because x is the name of the thing.

But I'm willing to lend a helping hand anyway just in case it really is a clueless boyfriend, plus I figure anons probably have their own clueless boyfriends and someone had to step in and tell them they don't all need to dress like brownie vampires.

The replica fabric debate dumb af though.

>>9907402
You could go for the classic "dress shirt, blazer, statement jewelry, and black leather platform boots" look. Silk dress shirt and black velvet blazer could dial that shit up a notch too without getting into Atelier Boz territory.

>>9906539
Because some people look so bad it raises a big question how they could look in a mirror and think that would be a good outfit to post online. Sometimes, I just want to have a good laugh at people who do such a ridiculous things. I don't like when people who are okay but not great posted. I like the horrible big messes that most likely will never improve anyways. Is that mean? Probably is, yes. But they put themselves online like that in the first place. The tread is just a collection of what those idiots post to begin with.

>>9907480
You can see I didn't vote nor gave a reaction in the screenshot. Because the boxes are empty and the like button is unpressed...

>>9907333
even as ageplayer trying to roleplay or shit like that it doesn't seem to make sense. I literally have no clue how those answers should answer to "what is your favourite colour". And checking the person their FB account doesn't show anything useful either, beside a 2 or 3 more bad MS paint drawings. I literally can't make any senseful thing out of it.

>>9905476
Eek, I didn't know it was bad to store organza folded up. I thought it was best to bunch up most petties for storage.

>>9907281
Biggest question, why are people loving and liking this? What do they know that we don't that makes this a good post?

>>9907780
Only chiffon. Store the rest hung upside down over the neck of the hanger with free space around

>>9905894
This looks like ass

>>9907839
Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. Risa modeling it doesn't help (then again, I'm biased). I like the cut, but the floral print looks like something from a generic late 90s dress.

>>9906972
I think a lot of people like her because she is much more down to earth than other efamous lolitas. Not very cute = non threatening, nothing to be jealous of, so people tend to like her more.

>only shopping services that can still buy from fril and mercari are more expensive than other shopping services
could it be connected

>>9907860
That's because the SS that still buy from fril and mercari are personal SSes. So it's less obvious they're a shopping service, which fril and mercari don't allow.

>>9907862
Japonica isn't a personal SS

>>9907865
They're more personal than others. They have local Japanese accounts with tons of positive reviews. Most SS's like ZenMarket won't bother with the pleasantries that the sellers on Mercari and Fril expect, whereas Japonica and Tenshi do all that shit. Also I'm pretty sure Japonica uses a few diff employee addresses for sellers to ship to, and then the employees just take it to their main office for the final packing/shipping out.

Is $30 a good deal for those flat VWxMelissa three strap shoes? (secondhand)

>>9907885
when people say ''personal SS'' they usually mean a single person

>>9907889
Yes

>>9907865
Didn't know Japonica still does mercari, I stopped using them a while ago so my bad. Still most of the SS that still buy from mercari/fril are personal SS

>>9907889
Shit yes. Link?

Besides Misako who I guess wears a lot of lolita in her off-time, are there really many Japanese lolita lifestylers? I know they don't really do as many comms and meets like we do, they just go to events or wear it out with friends, but how about the daily wear? And Chinese? I'm curious about the differences between Japanese, Western and Chinese lolita stuff like this.

>>9907902
My SS wears lolita on her days off and there's no brand tea-parties where she lives

>>9907901
I'm not going to link them, I'm buying them.

>>9905894
>>9907839
>>9907841
Bedsheet kei.

>>9907901
There's a red pair in size 8 on eBay.

>>9905894
Looks like a super ugly, outdated normie dress from the 90s

Very related to the fast fashion discussion in the confession thread: https://ameblo.jp/kyounohnaoto/entry-12380393057.html?timestamp=1528468730

>>9907947
>moonrunes

>>9907911
I mean I already bought them and yeah that’s also true if I hadn’t but that’s weird you’d reply as me anon.

>>9907961
What, you can't use a translator app or page? What language did you expect on ameblo?

>>9907961
it's just the main designer and owner of h.Naoto blaming fast fashion for his business not doing well

>>9905510
I'm a nasty lazy lolita and my toenail polish is from Thanksgiving.

>>9907774
>joke
>>>>>>
>your head

>>9907256
Go to Melbourne. I mean Scotland is beautiful and has a nice climate, but Australia has like the most relaxed customs policy in the developed world and you are closer to Japan and booking a trip there is cheaper. I also believe the job situation is not the best in Europe atm and the UK in general is pretty fucked with Brexit. The political climate isn't as bad in the north but I'd still avoid it at all costs if it were a long term decision to make.

>>9906233
That's really nice too. I love 2010s sweet but for more casual wear I like solids and subtle prints like these.

>>9908390
This piece is made of delicate sheer fabric though. Just because it's solid/has a subtle print doesn't immediately mean it's for casual wear.

secretsss

>>9907256
climate: Melbourne is OK in winter and spring but death in summer and through a lot of autumn
Scotland is cold and I never wore lolita there
Comms/culture: no idea, only went for holidays
Shipping from Japan and import costs: OK so to get things into the UK you basically have to pay 30-50% more on your item price...ever wondered why lolita stuff from Europe is so expensive? in Australia import costs barely get a mention and it's MUCH closer to Japan.

>>9907256
Scotland, with your visa you can go on cheap trips to Paris etc and any lolita event in Europe and Scotland has tons of fairytale looking places where you can wear lolita

Why is someone's wardrobe post at the top of egl livejournal?

>>9907862
Probably a dumb question but does banning shopping services on Fril and Mercari come across as gatekeeping to anyone else? FFS they would increase sales significantly if they allowed it. It can only improve their economy.

>>9908545
It is gatekeeping. A lot of Japanese lolitas don't want the burando circulating outside of glorious nippon. Japanese people are notoriously xenophobic so this shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

I'm glad that the designers of all the major brands love that their life's work is bought and enjoyed by people all around the world. In all the interviews I've seen, they seem genuinely happy to see girls from the West enjoying their dresses - it doesn't seem like something motivated by greed at all.

>>9908545
I think it is, in a way. I don't mind it too much though, as long as there are shopping services that can still buy there.

>>9908567
I’m sure brands are glad everyone is buying from them but I don’t think they would care about supporting the second hand markets so much since they don’t profit from it.

The only people actually crying about it though are the ones too cheap to splash a little extra cash in fees to get someone who can buy from them. Cheap lolitas gonna cheap though.

>>9908545

Seems a little bit of both. Way back when the discussion was about yja and mbok, on egl some anons living in Japan said that some shopping services ignore seller's terms of sales, which often required an introduction, and then the sellers started banning shopping services because they couldn't be sure who they were selling clothes to.

Think of it this way. If you were selling on lacemarket and had a clause that said "please message me so I can quote you shipping", not only did the buyer not message you and you had no idea what shipping to put down, then you click their profile find out that they're a 40-year-old dude. Would you cancel the sale and then block this guy from all future sales? Then he tells you it's not for him, he's buying it for his chinese lolita friend but can't tell you who this lolita friend is, can't introduce her, can't provide her facebook, can't provide photos (I mean, no SS is going to ask you for all that to show the seller... probably???). How hard are you gonna block his ass now? And maybe let your friends know there's a potential sissy trying to buy used clothes from girls?

Then the shopping service comes back and gently lets you know the seller refused to sell to you and uhh, maybe in future they won't do these phone auction sites as they're less safe than yja and the sellers seem much pickier, or something.

(This story being partly true. I looked up my SS's account on yja once. Like for real, it clearly states that he's a 40-year-old dude. And I've been buying so many dolls, doll clothes and lolita dresses through "his" account....maybe he just tells yja sellers it's for his daughter, idk )

>>9908497
Because no one has posted anything since then?

>>9908636
People did post afterwards though, the wardrobe post in question is from January and the posts below it are from May. Not to mention the wardrobe post is locked, as are all the pics on it. Strange.

Serious question. Why is the Space Lollipop OP suddenly back in stock on the JP site? Are these like spare pre-order dresses people won't get until November, or did they literally just restock them?

I'm really salty if they did just restock it, meanwhile I have to wait until November to get my MTO. It'll be too cold to even wear the damn thing in November and it won't get worn until Spring 2019.

>>9908759
It happens quite often at their online shop that something is sold-out and a few days later it's back in stock, though only in a limited quantity. It's either that they update their online shop with the stock that is left over at their physical stores, or they have a small back-up stock in case too many people order at the same time and they don't want to cancel orders.

It's really weird though that this happens to an MTO item since MTO usually means they really have 0 items left but the demand for it was way bigger than they expected

>>9905223
I need one

>>9908545
It's because those SS were bad at their job. If someone with 100+ negative feedback tries to buy from you wouldn't you ''ban'' them?

>>9908582
brands do profit from the secondhand market, visibility of the brand increases new sales

Has anyone here ordered from Indrolita and how was your experience? What's the quality like? Thanks~

>>9910074
really good

Has anyone got VM's rococo bouquet OP yet? I'm still waiting on mine.

>>9910154
I didn't order it, but from the Rococo Bouquet meet in Japan, it seems at least some of the Japanese lolitas have gotten theirs already.

>>9906964
No one gives a fuck about paradiso.

>>9910154

I got mine very recently. They should have sent it out towards the third week of May. Ask your SS about it - they should be getting e-mails from VM.

Hey, beautiful seagulls!
Do you know if there is any active community page for lolitas from Copenhagen?

Has Victorian Maiden ever done patterns for GLB or OnS? I can't find the list anymore

didn't there used to be some alice auaa dresses on hellolace or lolibrary?

>>9910324
Paradiso was ok but her video is same as usual, not very good.

Does anyone have that meme/comic saved where some girl sees a cute dress and goes "yoooooo", checks price tag, and then immediately says "noooooo"

>>9910658
What is the fabric of this, the bodice on the light blue one has vertical wrinkles, surely it is not made from stretch knit like a cutsew?

>>9910663
They have for GLB, at least.
>https://egl.livejournal.com/19906810.html

>>9911300
100% cotton

>>9911327
*whew* that looks really pretty.

>>9911287
I’m sorry I don’t have the exact one you’re talking about, but I have one similar, sort of

Meta has a new print that'll go on preorder on the 15th! It's called Magical Moonlight

>>9911719
>Magical moon light Side Frill Dress (43,800JPY)
>Magical moon light Babydoll Dress (32,800JPY)
>Magical Moonlight Fishtail Dress (35,800JPY)
>Magical Hoodie Cape (15,800JPY)
>Magical moon light Ribbon Clip (3,500JPY)
>Side Frill Round Chiffon Headband (5,800JPY)
>Crystal Chiffon Cuffs (3,800JPY)
>Magical moon light Print Over Knee High Socks (2,900JPY)

>>9911720
This is the side frill dress

>>9911719
The beige colorway looks interesting but I swear this looks incredibly familiar. Didn't they release a similar looking print in the past?

>>9911723
The babydoll

>>9911726
Finally, the fishtail. I love this one

>>9911725
Woah, you're right! This is a print rerelease, though the cuts look completely different to the set I found on lolibrary.

>>9911728
They've also released this long pinafore jsk. This is the pink colourway

>>9911729
This is the Ivory colourway. It's called Long Tiered Pinafore Dress and costs 26800

yo I heard lolibrary will be completely up soon
I heard there will be usernames and wishlists again
I heard there will be a patreon for better and more transparent donations
I heard there will be new, very detailed and good privacy terms
I heard there might be problems with importing old accounts because of the GDPR
Get hype nevertheless

>>9911287
I have a vague recollection of it. I think it might have been posted on BTB?

>>9908628
>>9908934
These two responses are accurate, most japanese sellers don't deal with SS because they're simply bad at their jobs or come off as suspicious people. To make it worse, communication can be really bad with a SS due to the sheer volume of orders they make.

>>9911287
I gotchu senpai

>>9911743
Is that really what they mean by "completely up"? I don't care about accounts or wishlist, I want a proper search and category function (like the old lolibrary had) and being able to search by product number. I would actually donate if they did something about that mess.

>>9911832
Pssst anon, I'm sure that's what they took as priority before everything else, no need to be salty in advance.

>>9911743
I'll see if I can convince the dev to upload a sneak peak of the new homepage.

>>9911832
>pretending like you'd actually donate
Come on anon. It's not their full time job, the donations go to keeping the site up. Which they've been paying out of pocket anyway. Would you rather the site close completely?

>>9908628
I'd also like to add that I suspect some SS try to haggle or negotiate price which really bothers some sellers. This would greatly upset me if the SS did that but charged me the original price just to sneakily make a profit. There's now way for me to know because all the communication is controlled by them and in another language.
Think about this every time your SS comes back to say "oh, that seller refused ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

>>9911300
>vertical wrinkles
my goodness
If the bodice and skirt are separate, those are gathers at the waist. If it's one piece (sack), the gathering effect is from the waist sash

>>9911850
These wrinkles were what I was questioning.

>>9911862
Pretty sure those are gathers as well.

>>9911868
Probably, I just couldn’t tell from the photos, but thankfully >>9911327 cleared up my doubts.

>>9911845
I use a reputable ss who can shop damn near anywhere and if they get a little on the side sometimes or the point card bonuses, I don’t mind. She takes care of me, gets me what I want and gives me highest priority because I always quickly pay in full and don’t ever cry about fees. It’s rare I even ever have to consider a second choice and my items arrive very fast. Magically, LE items are usually attainable because we have established a good relationship. That’s why the fees are worth it.

>>9911841
she's gonna upload them to patreon first.

>>9911845
Why do you have that feeling? I have used a lot of SSs in the past, but none ever did that. (I can read what they comment as I know some Japanese.) They only negotiate if you ask and even then some won’t do that, as they all think it might come across as rude.

>>9911903

I don't think Japanese SSs do this, but if you browse taobao and weibo, sometimes you see shops posting a sign with huge giant letters that seem very angry -- something to the effect of they don't bargain with buyers, please don't shoot if disagree with the price, etc etc. So I think it does happen, but with taobao SS, not Japanese.

Japanese SS I don't think they bother. It's not ingrained in their culture to dime every penny they can get, and they're kind of more indoctrined to follow the rules and not cause trouble for other people.

(nayrt, btw)

>>9912355
>>9911903
My Japanese SS does it when I ask them to. I always check if the seller says price negotiation is ok on their profile though. I don't ask if they say not to or if they don't say anything about it in the description. Usually I ask if I'm buying multiple things.

>>9912362

Sorry, I meant I don't think Japanese SS haggle on the sly and then charge you the original price + commission, which is what the comment I replied to replied to.

Not that they absolutely won't haggle.

>>9908395
I don't understand the v*ldie one, does the " mean they don't think she's to fat?

>>9912371
Anyone with eyes thinks voldie is too fat so probably

>>9912371

They were being using the quotes to refer back to her insta story about being mega salty about not enough variety in models chosen for AP. She then went and defended herself here and backtracked many times, as usual. She also used a fellow 'big' lolita as a willing meatshield for her reasoning why she was so salty. It was classic voldiee being extra af when she's salty.

>>9911842
tons of people have donated, myself included

Non print dress release this week.

>>9912619

>>9912621
Oh no, I'm such a sucker for gingham. Are there more pics of this one?

>>9912622

>>9912629
Thank you, anon! I'll probably skip on this one because of the full shirred waist; but shit, it's so cute.

>>9911743
Why don't they put in unobtrusive ads to help out with the cost of the platform as well?

>>9912621
I really want it, but that price. Why is it so much higher than other non print pieces? Maybe it's made in Japan? Otherwise I can't see why it's price would be over 30k yen.

>>9912643
Prices in general have risin from AP

>>9912646
The other non prints they are releasing haven't though. It just seems a bit strange unless I'm missing a specific detail that makes it cost more. Maybe full shirring?

Anyone going for the JetJ x Umezu Kazuo collab? Price tag is a bit steep.
https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/36

>>9912655
Me. It's gorgeous. Sometimes you pay for the name/print.

>>9912641
no thanks

>>9912653
they probably hope to make a good bit of money on this since it has flexible sizing. the fabric also looks to be a waffled cotton, I think. I'd question the price if it was 40k+ but 31k is fine

>>9912629
All the fattys will jump on this, no thanks. Fully stirred bodices just don't look that great even when they are not stretched. Only with something over it styled like >>9912621
.

>>9912655
While we are at it, can we discuss the downfall of JetJ for a bit?

Pic related:
>top left new release from 2018 for 73000 yen.
>compare to top right a similar release and also an art collaboration from 2015 for 38800 yen.

>bottom left new OTT design from 2018 for 200000 yen
>compare to bottom right OTT release from 2007 71400 yen

>The OTT release from 2007 is somehow cheaper than the basic copy and paste design from 2018
>looking back 2015 pricing wasn't that bad at all

>>9912629
I've waited for the release announcement since I saw it in...what was it, tulle? That price is more than I thought it would be, though. Not sure if I really want to get in new now.

Kinda related, but the price for AatP's Poison de l’amour princess jsk rerelease are also really high...I get that they can't charge the same price like in 2012, but phew, that price rise is steep.

>>9912680
If only our wages had gone up with the prices of products

>>9911719
Old colours (apart from the weird pink) were better, these are so ugly.

>>9912694
They're the same? Except the ivory and the missing purple and green one. I'm genuinely curious what you find uglier about these.

GUYS

>>9912777
The JSK is kinda cute, if only the bow on it was smaller and not so ridiculous. Not sure what the OP is supposed to be. Is that a fucking zipper down the front?

>>9912777
>cheap chinese shit

>>9912785
Cheap chinese shit WITH BANANAS

>>9912781
I think it's supposed to be an overcoat, not an op. It has a hood and everything. I guess they were going for the "tropical + wet" feel

>>9912777
>>9880689

>>9912777
>>9912798
Exactly, don't let the crappy taobao stuff like this invade here too, its bad enough constantly hitting LU. Even Chinese lolitas agree that much of what's on taobao and called or tagged with 'lolita' is cheap shit and a lot of it like this is trying to jump on the lolita bandwagon trend, please have some sense.

Lolita fashion is really not posted that much as a big street style in sites posting Harajuku street snaps anymore. What is your opinion on that? What does it mean for the style? Has lolita become a niche gentrified and more formulaic style and is it no longer a viable and evolving street fashion?

Just some things I’ve been wondering about.

>>9912742
No they're not? The original colours were light blue, some weird magenta, and blackxgold.

>>9912969
It's definitely seen as more formulaic, although I feel there's a lot more innovation and creativity in recent trends with the different cuts, accessories, and style hybrids like lolita/larme.
In a way it makes me sad to see the fashion become so... rigid, I guess? Rigid and delicate and too ethereal for real life; but at the same time, the general image of the style or what people (whether within the style or outsiders) perceive it to be doesn't stop me from doing what I want with it, so I don't really mind.
My coords are quite consistent aesthetically, even samey, but I wear them daily and do "allow" myself to loosen up on the "rules" so I can wear the fashion in a way that's comfortable to me. Meanwhile randos occasionally recognize my style as lolita and are impressed with the fact I wear it daily, so in a way I "promote" the street style nature of it on a micro scale, and I believe that every daily lolita also contributes to this.

TL;DR: Yeah lolita's becoming a bit rigid and seems to be leaning into being very specifically for special occasions, but it doesn't affect me directly and I do my share of showing a different image of the style, so I'm not completely bothered by this turn of events.

>>9912969
lolitas stopped hanging out in harajuku a long time ago, there used to be a lot visual kei performances near there but not anymore, plus you are not allowed to stand still in groups anymore because the road becomes too busy

>>9913000
Unfortunately this. Even back when Kamikaze Girls was first published, Novala mentioned that lolitas were moving to Shinjuku. Sure there are shops still catering to lolitas in Harajuku, but I saw way more lolitas milling around Shinjuku because of Marui Annex.

>>9913000
Street snaps show lots of street fashion still just not much lolita.

Since lulu is trending, what would you think if someone joined your comm and showed up to meets in a kigurumi mask?

>>9913129
I'd be fine. Better than Andrea's sissy manface.

>>9912777
>glutinous Lolita
Fatty chan parody brand?

>>9913033
I'm talking about lolitas specifically. They used to go to see visual kei bands there in the weekend, and also they used to hang out in little groups on the bridge but that's not allowed anymore.

>>9913153
Do they hang out in the Tokyo streets anywhere any more?

>>9913136
Don’t mention it in connection or he might just get one. We’d still be able to tell who he was by the shitty shoes though.

>>9913157
Gyaru and lolitas both got told off by police repeatedly for blocking the streets so I don't think so

K E K
E
K

>>9912777
Hideous

>>9912777
Why.

>>9913129
Tbh I would avoid them. I don't care how cute they look in photos, it's creepy af to talk to a mask irl.

Also lolitas are not living dolls or cosplayers and we don't need another ridiculous thing to be connected to us.

How do you feel when buyers resell things you've sold them for a huge profit? I sold a lot of 20+ items to a girl who is selling just 5 of the items she bought for over a hundred dollars more than it all cost. At the time I was leaving Lolita for family related reasons and now that I have the ability to get back into the fashion I kind of want to rebuy the pieces but that kind of markup is insane.

>>9913415
It feels bad but that kind of thing is going to happen if you have to sell things quickly, you will take a loss.
You could contact her explaining you'd like some things back if she's willing to sell a bit lower, maybe she'll feel guilty and sell them at a more reasonable price

>>9913286
>itabag
>coord saves
What? Itabags can be cute, they're not all loud and gaudy, but how does one "save" your coord unless you own no other bag at all?
Oh wait,
>ita bags and ita's in general
Why are newbs so dumb?

>>9913129
I'd be creeped out, honestly. Not because of the thing itself, if it looked anywhere near as good as Lulu's I'd be fine with it aesthetically; but speaking as a mod, I'd ask them to not come to meets with it. It's fine for photoshoots but keep this thing at conventions.
This is assuming that this person has shown their face to the comm; if they wear this thing 24/7, or at least give off this impression because they never show their face online, I'd be doubly creeped out and would keep them out of the comm and flat out ask them to not come to meets at all.

>>9913415
Name and shame. Maybe we should start another reseller/scalper thread.

>>9913379
They're just fucking with fatty chans now?
>Watch them snatch this up in 6L hahaha!

ETC released a new bird print

Long shot, but if you own GLB 24, could I trouble you to take a photo of page 93? I'm interested in the information of the mermaid skirt on the left. (I bought it recently and the waist turned out to be ~21 inches and I'm trying to figure out if the previous owner altered it or if it was made that way.) Thanks in advance!

>>9913612
I guarantee neither of those dresses are plus friendly. also, 6L is a rare bodyline size. taobao lolita brands don't offer standard sizes that large.
it's possible to enjoy food and wear food prints without being overweight. sounds like you haven't learned that yet, protests-too-much-chan

>>9913753
here's a larger scan I found online, if that helps

What's the best way to workout for lolita and jfash? I love fitness, but I dont want to get bulky.

>>9913803
Tbqh, refer to the /fit/ sticky.

>>9913806
Yeah, but I dont want to get bulky

I dont even want to be muscular, just tight and 'toned' (yes yes I know that's not a thing)

>>9913824
you wont get bulky unless youre a guy or on steroids

>>9913824
Read the sticky. It's a basic guide to exercising and diet while dispelling myth of bulking.

>>9913486
Same. Photoshoots and cons are fine. Meets are for socialising and this often resolves around eating and doing some kind of activity. It's all too distracting. It'd be annoying to deal with interrupting normies, trying to explain the fashion as per usual, while some special snowflake decided to cosplay their living doll oc

>>9913831
Not to mention that if the person in question never shows their face, you can't really be sure who they are. Who's to say they aren't a dude looking to live out some exhibitionist fantasy with a group of frilly girls?

>>9913833
Of course, but I was replying in context of someone already active in the comm suddenly deciding to wear a mask. I guess the only exception in this context is a Halloween meet so long as it's already agreed upon

>>9913129
>>9913831

Ugh, agree with you so much. I collect BJDs and it's already annoying enough trying to deal with dolls and people gawking. Lolita and people gawking.

And now people trying to be BJDs and I have to explain all this shit to random normies because some idiot decided to be an even more special snowflake? Sod this shit, I'm out.

The only feasible way I can see myself attending a meetup with one is if the original Lulu herself came, **and** it was sponsored by an actual brand (and written up on their brand web page). I'd go to see the spectacle, maybe get myself into group photos for the event report. But some random no-name person decides to shove a kigu meetup into lolita, I'm rolling my eyes and noting her down as the most special of snowflakes, the kind that should be avoided because eventually they'll do something really dumb and I don't want to get caught up in their dumb drama.

That, and girls around here aren't that loaded anyway. Either the girl has a decent kigu but shitty lolita coords, or she has nice coords and a really creepy-looking kigu, or both of them are equally shitty. I don't want my face plastered next to her failure, thanks.

>>9913847
are you one of those people that gets triggered when a lolita brings her bjd?

>>9913129
I think you are grossly overestimating how much Lulu is "trending". It only seems that way because you follow very niche interests. I guarantee she isn't trending that much in Japan, and this is just as creepy.

Also is it just me or does anyone else feel like most of the people in this image are most likely men?

>>9913854

I own BJDs, anon. I wear lolita to BJD meetups.

Rarely bring BJDs to lolita meets though. I only have burando for the 1/3 dolls and they're heavy to lug around. I might bring them if someone asks but apparently no one has any interest, so that's that.

>>9913859
This is probably one of the delusional anons in the animegao/kigu thread who are absolutely convinced that this shit is common in every lolita meet in Japan, lmao

>>9913753
I don't have that GLB but I'd say it's altered. A ~54 cm waist would be a JP size 5 and MmM size 2 is equivalent to JP size 9. Some older skirts have a 62 cm waist, a JP size 7, but 54 is drastically different from everything else they have released both prior and after, it would probably be unsellable to their demography as well. That is just what I think though.

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>>9906439

What's the point if there's no good content.