2019 CGL Predictions

[Anonymous No.10077054]

What are your predictions for J-fashion and Cosplay in the coming year? Which characters will be overdone, which coord combinations will sweep the Lolita community? Will Larme rise again or will a new Kei take over the lands of social media?

To start off, I think this might become a thing; Scallopets over OPs. It's probably been done before, but the idea could really expand a lot of people's wardrobe options. It also brings up the issue of print-on-print in Lolita fashion... Is that a thing? Will be come a thing? Fashion brand Hei Hei has been doing a lot of plaid-on-plaid in otome-type cuts.

[Anonymous No.10077090]

I don't think I am knowledgeable enough to make predictions, I hope it's still okay if I share my wishes for 2019! I hope simple, toned-down lolita gets more attention... it probably won't, but even it being more common and less unappreciated would be okay. I also hope brands make more cotton pieces because I honestly love cotton <3 And I think that's all~

>>10077054
>print-on-print in Lolita fashion... Will be come a thing?
I hope it won't, haha. I really hate it. But we'll see! Whatever it comes, it will be interesting.

[Anonymous No.10077095]

CGL will remain as a shithole

[Anonymous No.10077097]

I think seagulls will stay salty as ever

>>10077054
What is print on print?

[Anonymous No.10077099]

> coord combinations
what do you mean but coord?

[Anonymous No.10077102]

>>10077099
As in Dragon ball, FUSIONNNN

[Anonymous No.10077109]

The board will raise from 90% newfags to 99% newfags.

I think with the current interest in Gothic and Oldschool, 2010 era OTT sweet will naturally have a rivival by the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.10077112]

>>10077109
>2010 era OTT sweet will naturally have a rivival by the end of the year

Why does everything have to be ruined by OTT? /sad

[Anonymous No.10077117]

>>10077112
It's natural. After too much OTT people yearned for simplicity and vice versa.

[Anonymous No.10077125]

>>10077112
>ruined
Here's the first "no-fun-allowed" commenter. 2010 OTT pastel vomit fluffy sugar bows-on-bows is my favourite era, and I'm waiting for AP to come back with sweet dresses in the same cuts and fabrics as older pieces like Candy Treat and Sugary Carnival. OTT sweet and the limitless girlishness and unapologetic dolly style makes my heart sing and gives me the feeling of battle armor when I wear it.

[Anonymous No.10077128]

>>10077054
My predictions:

- AP releases a lot of prints with colours that don't match 99% of people's wardrobes that fall somewhere between the sweet and classic range. The colours are too muted for true sweet and the prints are too cutesy for true classic.

- Another Holy Lantern cut.

- Boleros and caplets get a resurgence.

- Menhera starts showing up in western brands in a poorly done fashion similar to how fairy kei has.

- Uchuu kei becomes the next big kei trend and Listen Flavor releases a whole line of spacebunnies.

- People finally let larme die.

[Anonymous No.10077131]

>>10077117
We've not had any time with simplicity being truly popular though! Please I'm begging you just give a simple-chans one full year before you run us all over with your pastels and your twin tails

[Anonymous No.10077136]

>>10077128
I think Larme will specifically die because there's no more ddlg nymphet tumblr and we all know what Japanese brands were looking at for their Western inspiration.

[Anonymous No.10077137]

>>10077131
Quote! I really love simplicity and I have never felt it being popular in the latest years.

[Anonymous No.10077446]

>>10077095
This is known, anon.

>>10077090 >>10077097
Print on print is when you wear two unrelated prints together. They might be different colors, or the same color but the print is different (dots x stripes). And... In most causes I don't like it either. But I'm just starting to wonder where AP will go at this point.

>>10077117 >>10077131 >>10077137
I hope for this too. It's fun to go OTT for a major event, but I notice that level is often expected on the daily.

>>10077128
Ochuu Kei needs to happen. It's not the space we want, it's the space we deserve!

[Anonymous No.10077448]

>>10077446
You must not be in a comm, bc every time I go to a meetup or see meetup pics most people are pretty simplistic in their coords. Not a bad thing of course; just was I've noticed here in the good ol southern amurica.

[Anonymous No.10077464]

>>10077131
Think about it, you can't even get a properly nice twintail wig anymore. Natural wigs and natural hair are all you can find besides plastic cosplay trash. I wish we would start seeing OTT sweet again but it's hard with it not having been popular the past 3-4 years

[Anonymous No.10077476]

>>10077054
Thought through it a bit, here are my predictions.

Generally, I predict more sweet all-over too busy prints from AP. Baby will stick with muted prints, and maybe put out another painting themed coord again. MMM will continue to go down in quality. IW/Meta will be more of the same. Taobao will general gain in popularity, despite the continuing trade war.

Honey Cake Re-release

At least one TV-aired documentary that is focused on the 'living doll' thing

At least 4 more qi lolita dresses out of japan (Meta & AP mostly)

At least 2 questionable collaborations with Anime brands, probably Meta and BTSSB. I predict yellow. Unsure.

The folding of a major lolita brand.

And... the death of a major lolita influencer.

[Anonymous No.10077477]

>>10077136
>thinking japanese designers care about tumblr ddlg idiots enough to get fashion cues them them

no, the ddlg crowd just wears whatever aliexpress and spreepicky sells them. they wear the trends, they don't make them.

larme isnt "dying" it was never alive, it was just a magazine most former gyaru moved too that catered to a specific trend. the brands and magazine are still around, its just no longer "black blouse + pink pencil skirt" anymore.

[Anonymous No.10077484]

>>10077054
>Scallopets

[Anonymous No.10077487]

>>10077476
>Honey Cake re-release
please please please please please

[Anonymous No.10077507]

AP keeps churning out lesser versions of previous print concepts, leading to a slow and steady decline in popularity. It won’t be enough to fold the brand though, at least not yet. Frequent rereleases in an attempt to win customers back. I think a Honey Cake rerelease is very possible.

[Anonymous No.10077514]

The continued revival of old-school and gothic. I firmly believe it hasn't reached it's peak yet. It will continue gaining traction throughout this year and maybe some of next year before it does.

[Anonymous No.10077520]

Who wants to bet that nice manga about Lolita will get turned into an anime by the end of the year; creating a flood of itas?

[Anonymous No.10077523]

>>10077476

>The folding of a major lolita brand

This alone makes me wish you were talking out your ass. It's been a rough year and even though VM seems to be coming back Excentrique is still dead and MmM is in zombieland. Please, I can't take another major brand even threatening to fold.

[Anonymous No.10077534]

>>10077136
This.
The other reason larme is dying is it’s lack of strict rules and autistic gulls don’t wear clothes if they can’t be sure it’s ~authentic japanese kei~

[Anonymous No.10077605]

>>10077520
Probably not in this year yet but maybe announced 2019 and airing 2020.

[Anonymous No.10077679]

I still wear and buy “Larme brands,” but I have little desire to post about it online. It’s true that’s there’s just not as much to talk about when a fashion doesn’t have strict rules, and I’ve never felt a sense of community like people do with lolita.

Larme really doesn’t have the whole lifestyle thing that lolita does with tea parties and meet ups. I know there were meetups in the past for Larme but really I don’t know what I would have in common with those people other than our clothing being a little more extra. I don’t know, I’ve never been to a lolita meetup, but it just seems like there would be more to do or talk about than a Larme one.

>>10077136
Japanese brands have never relied on ddlg tumblr. That’s like saying lolita brands get their ideas from sissy costumes. It’s just bullshit made up to troll threads here on cgl.

[Anonymous No.10077716]

>>10077534
The lack of “rules” might be why the western community is dying but it’s doing fine in japan

[Anonymous No.10078144]

>>10077125
I feel the exact same way, Anon! Give me all the sugary glory, and give me more hime gyaru style hime lolita. Love me some Marie Antoinette style dresses, but I miss the OG

[Anonymous No.10078218]

I predict.... a relaxing of the rules in Asia leading to much bickering and controversy on Rufflechat. More and more shorter skirts, longer skirts, off the shoulder blouses, dresses that lack a lolita silhouette. Fewer border prints. Unnatural hair colors and dramatic makeup will become increasingly popular in Japan and China, and natural hair colors will continue to dominate in the West. Ultimately these factors will lead to some sort of stylistic rift. Perhaps we will get "old old school" and "new old school" and "new new school", but hopefully the nomenclature will be better than that.

Lolita (in general) will go more and more the way that goth has gone, with greater popularity in mass media and a more generic, cheaper, accessible incarnation that will lead many people to leave out of annoyance and disgust ("don't confuse ME with THEM" sort of thing). Hot Topic will have a section marked "Lolita" which will include t-shirts with pictures of Mana and a Mana Halloween costume. They will license Novala's lolita athleisure line as well.

There will be some sort of massive sissy smackdown on social media that dwarfs previous efforts. New "sissy lolita" comms will spring up and declare it is a valid substyle.

Taobao will give us many prints with pigs.

[Anonymous No.10078230]

>>10078218
>Lolita (in general) will go more and more the way that goth has gone, with greater popularity in mass media and a more generic, cheaper, accessible incarnation that will lead many people to leave out of annoyance and disgust
Ironically, a few days ago some normie twitter shared some taobao brand and people were acting like it was brand new and high end kek
I genuinely fear this though. I won't leave just because normie join, but I know it will be annoying.

[Anonymous No.10078269]

>>10078218
>Taobao will give us many prints with pigs.
And they will fly.

[Anonymous No.10078300]

>>10077448
I think that's because:
1.Too hot in there for ott
And/or
2. Too poor for buying proper brand stuff for ott(hope the economy there gets better soon!)

[Anonymous No.10078302]

>>10078230
I have seen that tweet! Well,those. Apparently she's just surfing Lolitawardrobe and posting whatever looks pretty to her. Too bad most of those dresses probably won't look as pretty in person :( she had to explain at least 3 times the whole "not Nabokov" thing. The account owner probably isn't a lolita herself, but hey at least she did some kind of research?

[Anonymous No.10078443]

>>10078269
>Taobao will give us many prints with pigs.
>And they will fly.
Amen.

[Anonymous No.10078459]

>>10078302
Source?

[Anonymous No.10078469]

>>10077054
- more baby themed sweet lolita due to jojifuku still rising in popularity and newly opened Baby Closet cafe collaborating with brands
- more muted colors that don't match each other
- casual gothic lolita increasing in popularity due to the mix of Larme and romanthic goth still being a strong among the jp alt fashion crowd (see Ank Rouge's subbrand Jamie)
- yankee rise because of the new yankee idol group, no idea if it will last long

[Anonymous No.10078471]

>>10078469
would you take a yankee accessory in place of a prince?

[Anonymous No.10078484]

>>10078471
Heck yeah. My bf already does this with me and it would be great if yanki became a trend so the jumpsuits became more accessible (they are currently super expensive and hard to find)

[Anonymous No.10078521]

>>10078459
I just tried to look it up and she took down all of her own Lolita tweets,instead started to RT from lolitawardrobe's account because some people were asking about where to buy and others (rightfully) complaining that she was getting RTs at the expense of the work of indie designers struggling to make some sales. Her account is sadaboutchiffon (which I find funny af? She might not be a lolita but many of us can relate to that username)

[Anonymous No.10079736]

CTP gets played out by mid-August and it becomes a total meme dress.

More Japanese / Chinese collabs, probably something completely unexpected like Angels Heart x VM

At least 3 separate attempts to replace Rufflecon in the US will completely tank.

Meta will do something with cheese. It might be bright orange.

Mana will accidentally say something out loud at an event.

VW will do a special lolita release of RHS with ribbons and bows and people will complain incessantly about how much more they cost than Bodyline.

[Anonymous No.10079844]

>>10077520
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I wouldn't mind seeing more itas that genuinely want to be in the fashion. Give me the scene wings and "cyberpunk/ steampunk" outfits, give me the lace monsters, give me the awkward teen classic lolitas, give me the cringe weebs with miku wigs dancing to Senbonzakura, give me the babbylitas with their mismatching pinks/ blacks, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. I'm sick of fetishists.

[Anonymous No.10079847]

>>10077520
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I wouldn't mind seeing more itas that genuinely want to be in the fashion. Give me the scene wigs and "cyberpunk/ steampunk" outfits, give me the lace monsters, give me the awkward teen classic lolitas proud of their first VM/ MM main piece, give me the cringe weebs with miku wigs dancing to Senbonzakura, give me the babbylitas with their mismatching pinks/ blacks, bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. I'm sick of fetishists.

[Anonymous No.10081157]

>>10079847
>Give me your itas, your shoops,
> your befuddled cat-girls yearning to wear brand,
>The wretched refuse of your facebook groups,
>Send these, the weeabo, taobao-lost, to where I stand,
>I lift my parasol for all the frilly troops!

[Anonymous No.10081166]

>>10079847
Those days are over anon. Only ddlg and tranny itas now.

[Anonymous No.10081173]

>>10077054
Shirtless coords become normal

Less poof for summer

Lolita pops up strongly in another country (after China)

Lolita becomes not a mainstream but know fashion: "lolita" dresses at normie clothing stores

MMM goes down and become meme material

Wristcuffs become ita (?)

Mr Yan returns with a new lolita brand, her wife is the model, sad face in every picture

[Anonymous No.10081186]

>>10079847
I see a lot of lolitas super angry at itas and with a strong desire to offend them... but honestly I think they're cute and we've all been worse at lolita when we started out. If I see someone who looks like "a poser" I just ignore them, if they look like they're just not experienced enough that makes me smile and want to help them. I would love if we got more itas because that would mean a comeback of lolita, a new rise in popularity that is much needed.

>>10081173
Haha I kinda wish you are right

[Anonymous No.10081190]

>>10081173
>shirtless coords
skirt-wearing lolitas will be goin tiddies out in 2019 and are calling it the new ero

[Anonymous No.10081326]

>>10081157
I really want to see a lolita version of the statue of Liberty for this, but I am no artist.

[Anonymous No.10081328]

>>10081173
>wristcuffs become ita
About damn time, t.b.h.

[Anonymous No.10081336]

>>10078471
I'd definitely take a sukeban accessory
>tfw no Ichigo gf

[Anonymous No.10081338]

>>10081173
>MMM goes down and become meme material
Already happening

[Anonymous No.10081365]

A new social media platform will rise up from the woodwork following tumblr's downfall, and lolitas will begin to heavily congress at the new site, reliving the glory days of LJ. Oldschool will continue to rise in popularity and experimental coords will surface more and more, and lolita as a lifestyle/culture will receive more media exposure.

Essentially, lolita will begin its renaissance era.

[Anonymous No.10081368]

>>10081365
>A new social media platform will rise up from the woodwork following tumblr's downfall, and lolitas will begin to heavily congress at the new site, reliving the glory days of LJ
PLEASE THIS

[Anonymous No.10081372]

>>10081365
The dream

[Anonymous No.10081388]

>>10081365
Could this be Amino? I think for the most part people here think it attracts itas, lolitas-at-heart, and other undesirables but I started lurking on the Lolita Amino a few days ago when someone said people were posting their wardrobes there and it kind of has a similar vibe... I've seen people make posts about their ootd, what they got in the mail, the recent meet they had, etc. and it feels a little more substantial than CoF or Instagram but without dealing with the broken mess that was Tumblr. You're not required to use your real name like you are on FB and you can actually look at posts chronologically (a dying feature these days) but you can still like posts, if you like that more modern social media thing.
Some good lolitas post on there so it's not like the entire userbase is shit... Is there something I'm missing? Why haven't more people made the switch? This seems like the kind of thing people have been wishing for but it doesn't seem to be catching on for some reason.

[Anonymous No.10081412]

>>10081388
Isn't it full of 12 year old itas and hate groups?

[Anonymous No.10081415]

>>10081388
the mods are shit

[Anonymous No.10081416]

>>10081365
Anybody considered ello? There are a few cosplayers on there, maybe we can have a lolita invasion?

[Anonymous No.10081426]

>>10081388

The app's just too heavy for my outdated old phone, it didn't make the cut when I deleted a whole bunch of other apps (neither did, insta, tumblr, facebook, etc). Anyway it's possible to get to amino via website: https://aminoapps.com/c/lolita-amino/home/

Though I haven't tried actually posting to it via the website.

>>10081412
>>10081415

Shitty mods are apparently decent enough that the 12 year old itas and hate groups regularly get kicked out and flounce, so it's not too bad actually. And really, that's all I ask from them, I don't care if they dress like shit as long as they keep the shit out.

[Anonymous No.10081428]

>>10078218
I could get behind a sissy smack down.

I predict OTT Gothic rises and female aristo or EGA will come into fashion again more.

Oldschool will continue to be revived.

AP (or some other brand) will release a Black Magic print with some sort of very questionable references.

CPK and Dollie Kei make brief appearances in a somewhat bohemian fashion spread somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10081429]

>>10081365
>>10081368
>>10081388
>>10081412
>>10081416
>>10081426
I'm still hoping that the community will eventually go and start using that one Reddit that was posted a week or so ago. The one that isn't full of itas, and one person is just posting releases in now.

[Anonymous No.10081438]

>>10081429
Post it again, anon. I missed that.

[Anonymous No.10081443]

>>10081429
God please not reddit

[Anonymous No.10081452]

>>10081438
r/lolitafashion. Or if anyone here is good at making and running subs I think r/eglcommunity is still available

>>10081443
Why not? I get that hating reddit is a meme but it's easily searchable and things get archived automatically, you can make new accounts very easily and don't need to have your name visible, downvoting means that it can self moderate to an extent to get rid of absolute shit...

[Anonymous No.10081466]

>>10081452
Welp I've dug up my reddit account and subscribed to r/lolitafashion.... but what now? How do we even get the ball rolling on a new platform?

[Anonymous No.10081467]

Someone is going to post an ero holy lantern coord to COF with one zipper unzipped like this

[Anonymous No.10081470]

>>10081467
There is precedent for this... Pic from weibo

[Anonymous No.10081472]

>>10081466
Basically, a lot of it depends on the mods being good. From my experience, a good way to encourage activity would be to post releases, for mods to pin weekly free for all threads, monthly meet report threads, and sale threads where people can comment the links to their LM listings. Personally, I would also like to see a monthly "random lolita pics" thread where people could post all those silly pics they take with their comm or friends but don't think are appropriate for Instagram or CoF. It would also be cool if people posted threads discussing Lolita Media or made art. Things like that. It's a lot like running an LJ comm. Having a cute layout helps too. If we wanted to have a separate coord focused sub like daily_lolita or CoF, a mod could set the sub to display on default from newest post rather than most up voted coord to create a less popularity-focused experience.
The other issue with activity would be to promote it. Obviously promoting it here would be pretty easy with just posting it every now and then in relevant threads, links could also be dropped in the major Facebook groups, and the creators could even make a Lolita secret to catch the oldfags who still look at that.
The main issue with having a good and active subreddit is that it requires good, dedicated mods and a user base who believes in it enough that they actually keep posting in it.

[Anonymous No.10081473]

>>10081472
Instagram could be a place to promote it too... Just make a template for people to share in their stories

[Anonymous No.10081486]

>>10081388
I'm not sure if the app has broad enough appeal to it. There ARE some lolitas who just aren't into weeby shit at all and I think Amino comes off as like....juvenile, first off, and then like a congregation for weeb and nerd communities.

That said, I think lolita amino kinda has two sides to it: the main part with all the posts and stuff seems to be fine for the most part (seems like it's gotten better over the past couple years) but the chatrooms are still god awful. I'm not sure if it's just the medium or what but almost all the chatrooms are filled with the dumbest most ita people you can imagine. There's two groups for my area and neither of them seem to have figured out that there's a giant comm of us already, if only they took literally ten seconds to type "[city name] + lolita" into facebook. I think its possible that Amino could be a viable community for lolitas but I don't know if it can become a main community that everyone would switch over to. I think if Amino could have more broad appeal and again, lose the juvenile image it has (honestly it just feels like quizilla if anyone remembers that site), then we could start thinking about it as a potential viable option.

[Anonymous No.10081489]

>>10081428
>AP (or some other brand) will release a Black Magic print with some sort of very questionable references

I could see Meta doing this. Is it bad that I want this to happen now?

[Anonymous No.10081492]

>>10081486
>quizilla
Jesus I feel old now

[Anonymous No.10081494]

>>10081365
Didn’t some anon start one similar to fb but just for Lolita? I made an account to test it but I forgot what the site was called so I could never check back in to look it up.

[Anonymous No.10081496]

>>10081494
Yep, they did. It also was meant to have a closet sharing function, wish I could remember the URL. I get the feeling that any such platform comma or even migrating to another platform like Reddit or amino, just isn't going to happen until Facebook and Vkontakte bite the dust. It's too easy to just use Facebook where everyone else is and to come on cgl for anon bitchery, rather than to actually invest in making a new place work. Even new places that have done an ok job at catching on like discord still struggle to capture more than a tiny subset of the lolita community.

[Anonymous No.10081499]

>>10081494
Yep, they did. It also was meant to have a closet sharing function, wish I could remember the URL.

But I get the feeling that any such platform, or even migrating to another platform like Reddit or amino, just isn't going to happen until Facebook and Vkontakte bite the dust. It's too easy to just use those two where everyone else is and to come on cgl for anon bitchery, rather than to actually invest in making a new place work. Even new places that have done an ok job at catching on like discord still struggle to capture more than a tiny subset of the lolita community

[Anonymous No.10081505]

what are y'alls ideal features for a platform aimed at lolitas? don't mean to hijack the predictions thread but since we're discussing it now

it's a pipe dream idea for a passion project but i'm working on my compsci degree and have web dev and IT friends who are passionate about lolita too. it's very feasible, but i have a feeling communities on pre-established platforms would be more successful since they're familiar... thoughts?

[Anonymous No.10081511]

>>10081505
Like fb with the ability to create and subscribe to groups for area specific stuff, with mods from that area, and maybe a wardrobe function similar or affiliated with lolibrary and LM where you can search and save items, plus add items to your wardrobe, wishlist, and show when sales for that particular item are listed.

It’s a big project, probably an unrealistic pipe dream but...when you dream you should dream big I guess.

[Anonymous No.10081515]

>>10081467
damn i'll keep this in mind for a whorish valentine's day coord. thanks!

[Anonymous No.10081532]

>>10081511
going even further into my unrealistic pipedream, i think that if this were to ever happen i would need to collaborate somewhat closely with the developers of LM and lolibrary to integrate their features

it'd be a behemoth task, but when broken down into smaller bits it may be possible to pursue with a small team. my gears are a-spinnin. thanks for the ideas!

[Anonymous No.10081537]

>>10081505
speaking as someone who's lolita website went under after going several hundred dollars into debt; Do it but Do it at your own risk. Lolitas are hungry for a platform, for content, but they will not pay for it. Your pages will get archived because they don't want to have to see ads. Again, not saying don't do it, just don't do it expecting it will pay for it's server cost.

[Anonymous No.10081538]

>>10081532
Even if you make a nice platform, a huge issue you're going to run into is that no matter how nice a platform you make, unless you advertise it hard on Facebook/Vkontakte/Instagram/Twitter/Amino/etc you will be fighting an uphill battle to get people to migrate.

But if you do make it, please remember to include community and maybe event planning tools!

[Anonymous No.10081540]

>>10081537
Which was this? But yeah I'm not surprised, this is why I think optimizing an existing platform would be better. Like the r/lolitafashion reddit or an experienced lolitas Amino or something

[Anonymous No.10081541]

>>10081540
can't say, sorry. basically we needed the server we had for the amount of traffic we were getting but we never seemed to make back much through ads. we bounced between the black and the red and then we just started losing at some point and never bounced back. people would tell me to my face that they liked what was being done, but then would comment that maybe we should take those ugly banner ads down. Just, all I'm trying to say is that the lolita community is great to collaborate with, work with but they are not interested in funding any kind of a serious operation.

[Anonymous No.10081682]

>>10081511
fuck a facebook-like platform. I'd appreciate something searchable, where you can thread conversations.

[Anonymous No.10081683]

>>10081494
It might have been mine. No one was using it so I deleted it. There's no point for me to waste my time and money working on something no one will use. If I had the time, I'd still work on it, but my career keeps me busy enough.

[Anonymous No.10081699]

>>10081472
Anon I really like your idea, gonna make a reddit account and sub and try to post often.

[Anonymous No.10082046]

>>10077128
>Uchuu
Here you go, Listen Flavor has been collaborating with them for about a year now anyways but they did only open their shop this week.
https://aikafuture.theshop.jp/

[Anonymous No.10082648]

>>10081467
I predicted this the year of the first MTO and was genuinely surprised it didn't happen then

[Anonymous No.10087758]

>>10081467
Wear this with it

[Anonymous No.10087773]

>>10079847
Me too anon. I'd take a hundred people who mean well but are misinformed over one person who just wants to get their grubby, cum-stained hands on some fap fuel.
The former are mostly harmless (though occasionally annoying) and if given some time and a little education most will improve. The latter are a menace who will drive people away if we don't make it absolutely clear that they are not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.10087797]

Here are my predictions for this year, get ready, it's a long one:

With the rise of old school aethstetics, more simplistic coordinates will become popular across the board, possibly leading to more people wearing lolita daily. Otome may experience either a surge in popularity or some form of integration into the lolita community, especially if print-on-print becomes a thing.

Taobao continues to gain popularity, especially brands that are actually good and/or offer custom sizing. Other taobao brands may start offering custom sizing to compete.

Once Haenuli shuts down for good the secondhand market value of her dresses will skyrocket.

Hospital Kei/Western Menhera continues to be a dumpster fire.

Fairy kei adjacent styles will start to gain more popularity. Spank! kei, Uchuu kei, Mahou kei, Yumekawaii, Yamikawaii and regrettably, Menhera.

Outsiders get all the kawaii-adjacent fashions confused, add DDLG to the mix and end up labelling everything either "Fairy Kei" "Lolita" or "Menhera" at random and with no regard to the actual elements of any of the fashions, because research is for people who actually care about getting things correct and we just want to laugh at the weird people in their anime fetish costumes. The mainstream association with DDLG will both scare new people off and lead to comms having creepers up the ass. (hopefully not literally)

I for one want Nanchatte to get more popular, but that's unlikely to happen soon, if ever. Maybe if Japan experiences a "uniform-inspried" revival of some sort?

[Anonymous No.10087926]

>>10087797
Adding onto the daily/simple/casual Lolita thing,for modern styles the cutsew dress will replace skirts and salopettes.

Also,best places to get inspo for actual "fairy kei adjacent styles"? I know lafary but some sns accounts would be great

[Anonymous No.10087965]

>>10087797
Outsiders get all the kawaii-adjacent fashions confused, add DDLG to the mix and end up labelling everything either "Fairy Kei" "Lolita" or "Menhera" at random and with no regard to the actual elements of any of the fashions, because research is for people who actually care about getting things correct and we just want to laugh at the weird people in their anime fetish costumes. The mainstream association with DDLG will both scare new people off and lead to comms having creepers up the ass. (hopefully not literally)

You can't predict the present, anon.

[Anonymous No.10087998]

>>10087965
I’m predicting that with the rise in kawaii-adjacent fashions, that problem is only going to get worse. I’ve not seen anyone mislabelling things as Fairy Kei or Menhera yet, but it’ll happen soon, considering how popular both are getting.

[Anonymous No.10088286]

>>10087797
>>10087998
You don't think that the dd/lg thing will start to die down? The recent crackdown on adult content that has occurred across various social media platforms makes it more difficult to post this kind of content, meaning that it will be harder to find and get less attention overall. I'm pretty sure that the reason it got popular in the first place was because of the rise of kawaii themed nsfw/kink blogs in the mid 2010's. I think that the people who care enough about it will become ghettoized on websites like fetlife, where they won't be associated with the jfashion community as a whole.

[Anonymous No.10088305]

>>10087797
reading you calling spank! style "spank-kei" and a fairy kei adjacent makes me want to die

[Anonymous No.10088329]

>>10088286
It depends. "DDLG Aesthetic" or "Littlespace" accounts that are technically sfw because they don't post any actual porn could slip through depending on moderation and loopholes in site rules.
Tumblr is also a few more bad decisions away from total closure. When it folds, whatever takes it's place could become the new hub for adult content in general.

>>10088305
You're right, it isn't really an adjacent style, and I did screw up the name, oops. Though considering they have similar origins and were created at around the same time, I'd at least consider the two styles related.

[Anonymous No.10088346]

>>10077054
More gradients, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.10088353]

>>10088346
Yes, AP will definitely keep rolling with the gradient thing
Gradient Holy lantern is likely
I'd like to see a full rainbow spectrum misty sky, personally

[Anonymous No.10088381]

Cosplay will become even more commercialised, and all the tailors/seamstresses worth a damn will switch to actual garmentwork unless they already have a following.

Cosplay is dead, it's a popularity contest rather than skill. There is no point to make your own cosplay if people cheat all the time in contests and normies can't tell apart handmade from party city tier. A decent sewer can still get popular and profitable making custom streetwear, however.

[Anonymous No.10088387]

>>10088381
I think the costhots will commission the skilled cosplayers. I've seen a lot of that lately.

[Anonymous No.10088410]

>>10088387
Where? Because all I see are ones that make stuff themselves and or/buy from China. They also will trade costumes with friends to get more content. But I haven't seen any commissioning skilled people.

[Anonymous No.10088432]

>>10088329
they aren't really related. "fairy kei" was entirely a western interpretation of what people who shopped at spank! wore. it really was never a style in japan.

[Anonymous No.10088434]

>>10088381
thats not cosplay being dead, it just means that finally the western cosplay community mirrors the japanese one (where nobody makes their own costume and everyone is just after clout)

[Anonymous No.10088475]

>>10088381
Man I'm not even a cosplayer but this is so fucking sad. I'm sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.10088488]

>>10088353
I'm just really hoping all these gradients will bring about vaporwave lolita

[Anonymous No.10088509]

Moitie's quality/quality control will grow worse than even AP's over the next few years

[Anonymous No.10088516]

The Western market seems clearly steering old school and toned down, but it'll be irrelevant because the Chinese demand flashy and excessive items.

Brands may pander more to old school releases, but they won't do well outside of very specific colorways. We saw it happen with Baby and I think it'll continue to happen. Old school lovers are not as big as we're lead to believe and it's a hardcore niche audience that'll remain vocal with no buying power for modern releases, choosing to stubbornly prefer old pieces on the secondhand market.

We'll basically get back VM like nothing happened thanks to the Chinese and that's a good thing.

AP goes gradient insane as a way to - once again - release the same prints it already has.

More AP remix prints of all kinds.

Metamorphose will continue on it's new roll with better designs than in it's past and will be the only Japanese brand truly pushing the limits for innovation.

Taobao will continue to suck life from secondhand stores and more unpopular brick and mortar j-fashion stores in Japan. It'll cause more closings and people will look around baffled as if they can't figure out why it's happening.

Another absurd HL MTO with some weird color like salmon pink.

Maybe not this year, but real gyaru will one day make a come back and it'll come back strong.

Also certainly not this year, but Haenuli will be back in some form or someone from her company will take up the mantle.

Moitie will have quality issues like Mary Magdalene until they both find stable staff.

Speaking of MM, we may get one or two releases this year. Maybe.

Sheglit will continue to be the gothic brand of the future in the meantime.

IW will suffer in silence, breaking even and having some minor financial issues, despite being one of the more consistent in quality Japanese lolita brands these days.

[Anonymous No.10088519]

The Western market seems clearly steering old school and toned down, but it'll be irrelevant because the Chinese demand flashy and excessive items.

Brands may pander more to old school releases, but they won't do well outside of very specific colorways. We saw it happen with Baby and I think it'll continue to happen. Old school lovers are not as big as we're lead to believe and it's a hardcore niche audience that'll remain vocal with no buying power for modern releases, choosing to stubbornly prefer old pieces on the secondhand market.

We'll basically get back VM like nothing happened thanks to the Chinese and that's a good thing.

AP goes gradient insane as a way to - once again - release the same prints it already has.

More AP remix prints of all kinds.

Another absurd HL MTO with some weird color like salmon pink.

[Anonymous No.10088541]

>>10088509
this sadly

[Anonymous No.10088631]

>>10088519
Please, no more Holy Lantern. I think everyone who can wear Holy Lantern has bought it at this point.

[Anonymous No.10088972]

>>10088488
nayrt but I have an irrational hate for all things vaporwave and if this happens I will explode in a ball of pastel colored fury.

[Anonymous No.10088983]

>>10088488
I'm down. Aside from the prints, what would vaporwave lolita look like?

[Anonymous No.10089004]

>>10088353
>Gradient HL

I would unashamedly buy yet another. And then after that they can do a tie-dye version which I will also buy. And then a neon green OTT version which I will buy if I have $3k to spare in 2021

[Anonymous No.10089006]

>>10088410
not the big costhots like jnig or 100k+ followers on twitter, but I've seen it frequently with the ones with 5-15k followers

[Anonymous No.10089028]

>>10088983
>>10088488
>>10088972
Behold, Vaporwave Sky.
(I was gonna edit a full coord but fuck that noise this was enough of a pain as is)

[Anonymous No.10089042]

>>10089028
Thank you for assaulting my eyes with this atrocity.

[Anonymous No.10089088]

>>10089028
If it was more pastel I'd be all over this

[Anonymous No.10089100]

>>10089028
maybe it's just me, but these colors are way wrong for vaporwave.

[Anonymous No.10089103]

>>10089100
Yeah, that's valid. I had a lot of trouble getting it the right colors, so I kinda gave up.

[Anonymous No.10095662]

>>10081486
I really like amino, and noticed you can finally post from the web, which is what stopped me from using it as much before. If they just fix that interface up a little bit more, I'd use it plenty more frequently. But I do post to it when I get the chance, and there are some decent lolitas on it. I think it will slowly improve and maybe eventually be usable.

[Anonymous No.10095702]

>>10078469
Few sukeban brands are suddenly everywhere due to collabs with that idol group but damn, those prices.
https://towanouta.official.ec/

[Anonymous No.10095715]

>>10095702
Are there men’s sizes? I’m still holding out.

[Anonymous No.10095758]

>>10077112
Fuck yeah, that was my era
Get mad kids, the old ladies are about to break out the fuckin pastel split wigs and teaparty heelies

[Anonymous No.10095771]

>>10095758
>2010
>old ladies
lmao sit down anon, being a newb when 2010s OTT sweet was popular hardly makes you an oldfag.

[Anonymous No.10095817]

>>10095771
2010 was 9 years ago anon.

[Anonymous No.10095913]

>>10077484
yea isn't is salopette ??

[Anonymous No.10095916]

>>10078218
Taobao will give us many prints with pigs

Oh YES

[Anonymous No.10095919]

>>10095715
Everything is men's sizes to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10095920]

>>10077112
Ott sweet is like already coming back lol

[Anonymous No.10095921]

>>10077131
I hope that people just kind of do their own thing in this upcoming year. I love so many substyles and hope to see a bunch of new, but differant looks

[Anonymous No.10095923]

>>10078218
>>10078269
>>10078443
>>10095916

[Anonymous No.10095924]

>>10095923
Also

[Anonymous No.10095939]

personally excited that old school style is experiencing a revival, i am a babachan (04 era) and i am so ready.

also
>holy lantern
please no

[Anonymous No.10095985]

>>10095924
>>10095923
These are but the tip of the pigberg.. CNY is on Tuesday, the Year of the Pig shall be upon us and yea but it shall be glorious. I'm hoping for a really dainty pigs in dresses at a masquerade ball sort of print.

[Anonymous No.10095992]

>>10095923
Shane Dawson is SHAKING

[Anonymous No.10096006]

>>10095771
you must be REALLY old

[Anonymous No.10096067]

>>10095771
I don't think that the anon who just invented the term "teaparty heelies" was being completely serious

[Anonymous No.10096071]

>>10096006
Nope, just been here longer than 2010-chan. :^)

[Anonymous No.10096076]

>>10096071
late 20s/early 30s is fucking old compared to 4chan's current main user base anon

[Anonymous No.10096089]

>>10096076
not here. there are a number of lolitas in their late 20's to early 30's. there is even one that keeps posting that claims to be 50 but i don't know if that's true.

[Anonymous No.10096125]

>>10089100
I think the emerald dreams or whatever colorway was already pretty vaporwave

[Anonymous No.10096169]

>>10096076
Some people were here b4 anonymous became a political statement