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Previous thread >>10152454

Paradiso is two days away!
>IDD and Voodoo Dolly had to cancel, but will still be participating in thr fashion show.
>Suposed to rain all weekend, have you changed your coords accordingly?
>Anyone coming in on Friday for the swap meet, what are you bringing? Gull meetup afterwards?
>Who got VIP?
>What are you looking forward to buying/seeing?
>Have you even started packing?

>> No.10176293

I don’t own a cute umbrella and I’ve never been more sad about it in my life.

>> No.10176307

>implying an umbrella is going to save your from gale force winds and grapefruit sized hail

>> No.10176321

>>10176239
Didn't change my coord. Fuck that. My ass is just gonna be hot.
Bringing a small boring umbrella. No space for my cute ap parasols.
I'll be at the swap meet trying to get rid of shit that doesn't look good on me. Please buy my wares I need the luggage space for things I'm gonna buy.
I'm VIP and looking forward to karaoke. I hope it's not going to be full of girls who "don't do karaoke"
I'm packed but need to reorganize some things. As usual, I overpacked.

>> No.10176323

Please let the AC be good this year, I really don’t want to almost die like I did last year. I also refuse to adjust my coords for the weather.

>> No.10176334

>tfw the perfect blouse for my day 2 OTT coord is fleece lined
I am ready to suffer

>> No.10176369

>>10176239
I can't wait for karaoke, just worried about bring out the edgy songs too early when people are still sober.

>> No.10176378

>>10176321
I have never done karaoke but I'm still looking forward to going.

>> No.10176379

>>10176369
What kind of edgy songs are good for karaoke?

>> No.10176393

>>10176379
anything that you take seriously = bad karaoke

>> No.10176404

>>10176379
Anything you jammed to in Middle school t b h

>> No.10176409

I have two suitcases and a carry on, with no room for anything else. Fml.

>> No.10176413

>>10176409

This is why I opted to drive but I’m now facing a 10 hour drive in rain all the way fml.

>> No.10176417

>>10176409
im debating if i want to take two suitcases ahhhh

>> No.10176423
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I knew I wouldn't be able to go until next year but this thread makes me wish I could go with all of you

>> No.10176429

>>10176321
Same. Partly because I can't. My package had to be redirected. I have no idea if it'll arrive tonight or what. I'm more concerned about the drive and if my friends and I can all stuff our crap into a car.

>> No.10176445

>>10176417
I wouldn't mind so much but I just wish I didn't have to bring so much.

>>10176429
Yikes, ten hours. Be safe anon.

>> No.10176463

Well I hope the weather doesn't ruin my shoes. My coords are staying the same, I prepared for hot weather and none of my pieces run in water so I should be alright. I'm bringing a foldable normie umbrella bc my parasols are too big to put in my suitcase I think. Maybe. I'll check when I get home.

For the locals, how high does the water get in these areas of the city? How quickly do sidewalks and streets flood?

>> No.10176472

>>10176445

Thanks anon. I’ve driven this distance before, but mostly in good weather. I’m going to make sure I actually get sleep tonight and start out early. I seriously can’t wait to meet all of you.

>> No.10176476

>>10176423
I'm in the same boat. See you next year, anon.

>> No.10176526

>>10176463
that area should be fine.

>> No.10176557

>>10176526
yayyyyy ty

>> No.10176584

>90s all weekend
>raining all weekend
>planned to wear two big ass ott princess sleeve ops that require four petticoats each
>thought it was all indoors, don't have an appropriate parasol

welp

>> No.10176604

>>10176584
people are selling umbrellas at the swap meet tomorrow.

>> No.10176606

>>10176423
>>10176476
You'll have fun coming next year, the event grows bigger and better each year.

>>10176323
I was fine last year, it was not really that hot except in the Lolita Collective room.

>>10176584
Parasols aren't for rain anyway. I have an AP umbrella. If several of your dresses are that big, why don't you have a proper crinoline or a cage underskirt? 4 layers of petticoats is just ridiculous.
The events are all indoors but if it is pouring rain, getting from car to door still needs an umbrella even if you Uber, take a taxi or have the hotel car drive you.

>>10176334
The perfect blouse for a summer coord probably isn't fleece. Also how is fleece OTT?

>> No.10176644

Night before we fly out and I'm still fucking around with my coordinates....is this what death feels like?

>> No.10176675

>>10176606
It's the perfect unusual colour and detailing to match my main piece. The fleece is just happenstance and an unfortunate sidenote.

>> No.10176759

>>10176606
bitch

>> No.10176818

Kinda bummed cause I'm not close enough to the Westin to justify staying too long after the swap meet for a gull meetup if there is one.

>> No.10176850

For those staying at the Westin there is a giant global kids convention happening here and there are thousands of kids everywhere. I wanna die.

>> No.10176855

>>10176850
>How DARE there be other people in the hotel other than my specific group of niche fashion enthusiasts!

>inb4 crotchfruit
>inb4 they'll poop/vomit on my brand!!
>inb4 ur a soccer mom!!!

>> No.10176861

>>10176855
Nice strawman. Anon wasn't talking about "other people" in general. They're talking about a bunch of kids and their entitled parents who are considerably worse than your average normie.

>> No.10176867

>>10176404
Middle/ high school edgy bops example list

>wasted tier
Teenagers, You’re gonna go far kid, In the end
>tipsy tier
I write sins not tragedies, Boulevard of broken dreams
>completely acceptable at all times tier
Mr. Brightside

>> No.10176870

>>10176867
>Mr. brightside
My gull

Literally jammed to I write sins, not tragedies on the way up.

>> No.10176871

>>10176861
>the minute you pop out a kid, you become entitled and worse than the average normie

Cool.

>> No.10176878

>>10176871
It's true. They think lolitas are free entertainers for their kids. It will only be worse near a kids convention. Sorry that offends you.

>> No.10176889

>>10176871
Can confirm. My sister was an average normie until she had a kid and now she asks for the manager the second she walks into any store or restaurant.

>> No.10176929

>plague swarms of children
Wew. Dodged a bullet with my airbnb. Hopefully they don't intrude on the swap meet.

>> No.10177007

I literally cannot fathom why /cgl/ has such a burning hatred of children. It sounds like you all are the ones who have issues if you cant even be in the same building as them without screaming at the tops of your lungs
>REEEE PLAGUE SWARM OF CHILDREN KILL THEM ALL

>> No.10177008

Welp, there goes this thread.

>> No.10177010

>>10177007
Maybe its autism this is the place where you're likely to experience it

>> No.10177013

>>10177007
Fashion in general often attracts people who are opposed to having children for one reason or another. But lolita fashion in particular has a large pool of people trying to preserve a very specific type of youth, and the way a lot of lolitas treat their clothing like it’s some untouchable fragile thing makes sense as why they’d want to avoid children. Kids are messy as fuck. I don’t hate kids, but I’m not about to wear lolita where I know a lot of them will be.

>> No.10177094

>>10177007
I don't want them to die. I just don't cheese dust, snot, or other gunk to transfer to my clothes when some child decides to "look" with their hands. I also the sound of crying babies.

>> No.10177127

>>10177007
not going to lie, i am a selfish fuck. i don't have time for kids, and it's a good thing that i realized this before i actually had any.

>> No.10177149

I'm really looking forward to the weekend. I wear lolita often enough to be comfortable in all of my clothes and to know how to deal with weather so those aren't any issue. We are staying off-site in a nicer hotel so it's quiet with good views. I'm going to have a long bubble bath tonight, then a leisurely room service breakfast in bed tomorrow and enjoy the VIP shopping.
It's about Decadence.

>> No.10177206

>>10177007
I like children well enough on their own, my issue is more with parents that laugh when their kids grab my dresses and lift up my skirts like it's cute, or treat my outfits like a sideshow for their kids whether they're actually shown interest in my clothes or not.

>> No.10177207

>>10177149
That bubble bath sounds great anon. You're really taking the decadedent theme to the heart and that's awesome!

>> No.10177226

If any gulls at the swap meet want a cheap CGL pin, I'm the disheveled towering classigoth in Just One Bite. 10 bucks today, or 15 at the marketplace tomorrow.

>> No.10177237

>>10177207
Thanks, anon! This weekend is supposed to be a high point in our fashion. I intend to enjoy every minute. I hope everyone can have a positive outlook and enjoy a very good time.

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I know it's nasty out there now, but tomorrow it's not raining til later!

>> No.10177374

>>10177296
Maybe there is a God.

>> No.10177406

Post your swap meet spoils, anons!

>> No.10177412
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I thought she was banned?

>> No.10177605

>>10177412
who even is this? I thought eyebrow chan was the only person banned and this isn't her

>> No.10177827

Anyone else wandering around alone?
I'm the dingdong with probably sloppy waist ties

>> No.10177837

Wew, that AP fashion show. The majority of the models seemed like they’ve never walked before. The triple fortune show’s pacing was a little strange.

>> No.10177863

okay I’m sad I sprung for VIP and you don’t even get a raffle ticket in the goodie bag, and there’s also not food this year. Feel bad for the models that had to be here starting at 8am

>> No.10177946

The theme is decadence and there’s literally no food.

>> No.10177985
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1 hour left!

Started with 6 of each.
3 pastel and 2 jewel tone gull pins remaining. Come say hi!

>> No.10178019

>>10177985
Where you at? Coord?

>> No.10178022

>>10178019
Have my own table. Look for the big black rectangle across from Triple Fortune and Ikemen Mode!

>> No.10178057

>>10177863
Had to be in at 8 and they didn't even address us until nearly 9.

>> No.10178095

>>10177946
its....not great that it was a 12-7 event with no food at any point. worse for the models. I wouldve brought a snack if I'd known

>> No.10178122

Was there at least a food vendor?

>> No.10178130

>>10177837
Seconded

>> No.10178136

I overhead some gulls saying the hooked from the look rotting doll chick was there. Can someone please confirm

>> No.10178155

>>10178122
union station is huge, there were restaurants and a coffee place nearby but you had to leave the event and buy it yourself. last year they had free snacks, for how much we paid they could have fed us something

>> No.10178158

>>10178136
yes

>> No.10178175

Clearly blew their wad on the venue this year. Where do they intend to host the event next year, a castle? And charge 500$ per ticket? It’s ok to keep your venue more intimate and not have to skip out in other things. Massive venues tend to dwarf the event, making it sort of dinky. Hopefully tomorrow is a little better

>> No.10178191

>>10178175

still really sore about no macarons t b h

>> No.10178192

at least there was aircon tho, which was nice

have to agree with the other comments tho

>> No.10178205

Do we not have to pay for the food at the tea party tomorrow at least?

>> No.10178207

Lmao there’s some dumbass who stranded herself at Paradiso

>> No.10178229

>>10178207
Can you explain what this means?? Like she needs a ride?

>> No.10178234

>>10178229
She fucked up and didn’t call her bank from the sound of it so she’s broke

>> No.10178262

I had fun! There is a restaurant and also a coffee bar right inside Union Station, both were literally steps from the Paradiso entrance. I bought some nice things that it was good to see in person first, I really liked the fashion show and also the designer Q&A sessions.

>> No.10178272

>>10176239
why did IDD cancel?

>> No.10178276

>>10178272
because she's not at all lolita.

>> No.10178284

>>10178272
Seconding this

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>>10178276
And yet this is somehow.

>> No.10178310

>>10178308
Everybody in the front row looks disgusted

>> No.10178312

Was VIP just the first row there this year? It seemed like there were fewer VIPs this year somehow.

>> No.10178314

>>10178308
Yes, it is. There is a clear historical reference here to Marie Antoinette in the chemise dress. I'm not mad at this.

>> No.10178319

>>10178310
The one girl looks terrified lol

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>>10178308

>> No.10178325

How was karaoke?

>> No.10178326

>>10178308
lol, the super fat girl on the right and the tranny, lol

>> No.10178331

>>10178324
She looked unhappy all day, unfortunately. Several people did. Not really sure why, I couldn't figure it out. Oh well, my friends and I were having a really good time. I can't wait until tomorrow!

>>10178326
Several of both varieties there today.

>> No.10178334

>>10178331
Her and her crew are just generally salty unhappy people.

>> No.10178335

>>10178331
Unhappy because there was no food, no doubt.

>> No.10178336

>>10178324
She is a stunning example of chankles.

>> No.10178337

>>10178335
Savage

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>>10178324

>> No.10178342

>>10178314
Your gay ass roleplay clothes aren’t lolita ya dumb faggot go back to the renn faire

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>>10178324
>>10178331
>>10178334
I made her happy.

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>>10178324

>> No.10178361

Paradiso is the Fyre Festival of the Lolita community

>> No.10178365

>>10178346
she doesn't look happy at all. ew

>> No.10178381

>>10178342
Nyart but I see where anon is coming from. Yeah it's weird and not lolita but I'm looking at this the same way one compares experimental runway clothes to actual everyday normie stuff. That being said, yeah I totally understand why everyone was confused and appalled. I loved it, but I understand. Hopefully it was inspire some good coords. Only without the creepy french cat-person look.

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>>10178308
>that lolita in the back
charging her lasers?

>> No.10178468

>>10178136
Dollfille was there. They are not the same person.

>> No.10178473

>>10178361
nah, more of a dashcon

>> No.10178489

>>10178361
>>10178473
Sour grapes. The vip and golden perks are fun and the shopping was good.

>> No.10178507

>>10177837
I think the majority of that came from the strict rules put on us. AP staff asked us to not smile showing teeth, be energetic, no heart poses, peace signs, or too pumped up of action. According to AP no being “idol like”. They really just want hands at side and maybe at your face. That’s it.

>> No.10178558

>>10178507
Did they say anything about your shoes

>> No.10178559

>>10178361
>>10178473
somebody's jealous they can't afford to go to paradiso

>> No.10178565

>>10178507
As another AP model, I can confirm. I had practiced poses that were cute and bubbly but I had to throw them out the window when they told us the restrictions....

>> No.10178566

>>10178507
>>10178565
It was less about posing. The walks themselves were dumpy. There are ways to walk more elegantly and smooth. Some girls didn’t even have natural arm swing and looked so awkward.

While AP is the sweetest major brand these days, I’m glad that they didn’t have you guys do heart poses and idol stuff. That usually looks super cringy.

>> No.10178600

>>10178559
Haha hahahaha hahahaha nah bro

>> No.10178604

>>10178308
This is the funniest fucking picture the photographer deserves an award for capturing such a perfect moment

>> No.10178605

No one is jealous that can’t go to paradiso. Paradiso has zero energy and the people who run it are a group of boring old Lolita’s who don’t know how to have fun, let alone plan a fun event for everyone else. It’s literally just people standing around bored, buying stuff, and taking pics, and we can all admit that us Lolita’s have been able to do that for decades now.

>> No.10178606

>>10178605
This is one thing I don’t get. People complain about Paradiso every year yet still go. What is the draw then?

>> No.10178607

>>10178606
The draw is getting to talk about how you went.

>>10178600
>bro

Fuck off maleposter

>> No.10178623

>>10178605
this is my second year attending. it's fun to get to see items in real life before buying, plus not paying shipping. lolitas from all over the country come, and you can meet them and take fun pictures. I have some complaints but it really is a blast.

>> No.10178626

>>10178342
>Marie Antoinette
>renn faire

get a load of this retard

>> No.10178680

>>10178623
Traveling to Kansas City and paying $100 to attend event just to avoid shipping on some bad handmade crafts and sad scraps from brand stores they couldn’t sell online. Yeah okay anon. Stellar PERK.

>> No.10178687

>>10178566
>natural arm swing
You know you're not suposed to swing your arms when you walk right?

>> No.10178694

Who else is melting at the tea party?

>> No.10178704

Holy shit this pudding is disgusting.

>> No.10178705

>>10178704
It looks like diarrhea...

>> No.10178708

>>10177985
I'm so late to this thread, but is there any way I can still snag one of these?

>> No.10178718

>>10178704
For real! I usually enjoy chia pudding, but it's like they didn't give it enough time to set and gel properly. At least the rest of the food was pretty good

>> No.10178737

>>10178708
I'll check if there are any in the bottom of my purse after the pageant.

>> No.10178748

So much yawn.

>> No.10178751

>>10178748
Does anyone other than fakebois actually like fakebois

>> No.10178753 [DELETED] 

>>10178748
It's fun and novel to see masculine styled coords for a change, don't be a heckin party pooper

>> No.10178755

>>10178751
It's fun and novel to see masculine styled coords for a change, don't be a heckin party pooper

>> No.10178758

>>10178751
This contest is more enjoyable than I thought.

>> No.10178763

>>10178737
Thanks! I have $20 cash (not sure how much you're selling for)

I'm in the axolotl dress (mint and white with hairbun)

>> No.10178768

>>10178763
Sadly I just had a look during the Q&A and I don't have any on me atm but I still have some stock at my airbnb. I dunno if you wanted to swing by and have a look at my leftovers or I could ship it off you on Tuesday. Everything I didn't sell at Paradiso will be shipped off to France for remote vending at Modern Dollfest.

>> No.10178776

>>10178768
Bummer! I'll catch them next time
Thank you though!

>> No.10178799

>>10178308
C'mon it took years and years to make that dress

>> No.10178805

>>10178799
That’s even more embarrassing.

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>>10178805
>>10178805
oh no, it's a joke. Years and years, referencing an old designer who got her panties in a twist when someone made a different chemise a la reine inspired gown and went on about how it took her "years and years of research" to be able to design her gown which was literally just a chemise a la reine chopped at the knee.

I guess it's faded away like other /cgl/ references of yesteryear.

>> No.10178826

>>10178605
are there no panels or events besides the fashion show?

>> No.10178837

Well day two was pretty good

>> No.10178842

I wish I wasn't scared to announce myself as a seagull, I've been alone this whole time and wish I could have talked to someone
If anyone wants to meet another gull, I'm in all black with a big dumb etsy bow and veil on top

>> No.10178844

Ah I didn’t get to come this year. Who won the ouji contest?

>> No.10178847

>>10178820
If its any consolation fellow oldgull, I got the joke. I just didn't respond.

>> No.10178858

>>10178820
still mad at you salty bitches for getting vivcore to close because she had one of the best western brands

>> No.10178863

>>10178858
We didn't get Vivcore to close. She "temporarily" closed her shop when she moved to a new state with her then-husband, then shortly after they got a divorce, she had to move to a smaller place and she dropped her lolita/retro/glamour fashion business and blogging lifestyle entirely in favor of doing strip routines. Now she makes/sells fancy strip and burlesque outfits.

>> No.10178880

Who is going to tap add? Anyone still interested in a gull meet??

>> No.10178904

>>10178820
I got it, I just figured it was such an old joke that everyone else would get it too. I always forget about the newfag contingent.

>> No.10178906

That food was the blandest I've ever had.

>> No.10178924

>>10178906
So sorry to hear your lack of taste kept you from enjoying the meal anon

>> No.10178931

>>10178924
So sorry to hear your lack of standards made you feel that an event themed around decadence was appropriate to serve fruit kebabs, babby appetizers and prepackaged tea.

>> No.10178932

Who won the pageant?

>> No.10178938

>>10178932
>>10178844

Prince Lapine

>>10178906
Gonna kinda second this. It wasnt the worst I've ever had but it was a little disappointing. I thought it kinda lacked variety in flavor.

>> No.10178940

Raymond the mail boy was the best prince in the pageant and I'm sad they didn't place higher.

>> No.10178941

>>10178924
Sorry for your lack of tastebuds.

>> No.10178943

>>10178940
Ew no. Most of them were cringe, Lapine was genuinely adorable. What was up with the “princess” in the toga

>> No.10178958

>>10178924
Sorry mayonnaise is the spiciest thing you can tolerate.

>> No.10178971

What was everyone's favorite ouji skit?

>> No.10178973

>>10178940
Seconding this I can't believe they came in last place.
>>10178906
Also seconding this - though I really enjoyed the event overall, the food (or lack there of) was super disappointing

>> No.10178975

>>10178971
Jayden and sister were so adorable and heartwarming. Also really enjoyed bloody mary and mail delivery dude. I thought prince blackheart was pathetic and it's definitely a case of "so left they're right" with all the girls fawning over him. He should have been last place.

>> No.10178992

>>10178272
busy schedule. she's going to be at Träumerei

>> No.10179006

>>10178971
My favourite was the bloody mary skit! I also liked the delivery skit and Prince Lapine's dance with their girlfriend. I really liked most of the pageant contestants honestly

>> No.10179027

>>10176239
pics pls

>> No.10179056

>>10178626
That's why I did not bother to reply. It's fine if they do not get the connection and judging by other comments being made, its just summer as usual here. Edgy teens being edgy.

Paradiso is fun if you like this kind of fun, and if you don't, go find something else to do.

>> No.10179090

>>10178975
Prince Blackheart is my husbando. Bought that nigga a rose.

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>>10179027
this is all I'm going to post

>> No.10179131

Where will the photographers be posting their pictures? There are some on Paradiso's instagram but there were deffo more than posted.

>> No.10179135

>>10176867
Yesss dear gull! The Killers forever.

>> No.10179136

>>10179091
That looks lovely. I would love to go one year.

>> No.10179143

>>10179090
k well sorry you like mediocre men anon

>> No.10179189

>>10178704
It was kinda gross. No one at my table really ate it. I really wish they wouldve done better on the food.
Fruits tarts were good tho

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>>10178308

>> No.10179204

>>10179189
someone post a picture of the pudding!

>> No.10179205

>>10178308
is everyone at paradiso fat???

>> No.10179223

>>10179205
looks like it. no wonder they had bad/no food. gotta help the fats out somehow

>> No.10179226

>>10178325
I'm waiting to hear about karaoke too, I went to dinner instead. I’d prefer a different type of vip party honestly, something actually related to the fashion.

>> No.10179233

>>10178334
I saw lots of people having a great time but there were quite a few sour faces both days too.

>>10178606
The people who go every year = VIP, go back to see friends, have fun. The people complaining = GA, first-timers, haven’t gone, trolls, etc. Probably no Paradiso friends because I saw some people just wondering about looking grumpy by themselves or sitting alone. It does take some social skills to navigate this event.

>> No.10179245

>>10179091
It was not bad except for the chia pudding that did not set. But this photo is accurate and I don't think they represented the ’Decadence’ theme very well with the tea party. The food was plain and the venue was loud and crowded.

>> No.10179251

>>10179233
If only the VIPs have a good time, then how the fuck is this a good con?

>> No.10179257

not too happy with the caterers. they grabbed my cup when I wasn't looking, and when i asked for another one for water, she returned to me and was like 'oh lol we mixed up the clean and dirty dishes so we can't give you a cup.' who the fuck does that.

i liked the event for the people and i got to meet lots of new lolitas which i was excited about, but the food wasn't great, the chia pudding was wtf, and the service was a little lacking as seen above, but also didn't really refill anything like hot water.

>> No.10179258

>>10178992

So poor planning then.

>> No.10179259

>>10179251
It's not a con. Ticket prices are tiered for a reason and GA ticket holders often seem to expect more but VIP are usually happier. Just an observation. I think there is the potential for everyone to have a good time no matter the tier but it takes a decent effort to meet, mingle, make friends at this kind of an event. It also really helps if you are wearing a very good coordinate.

>> No.10179261

>>10179259

People can have a good time despite an event being horrible. That doesn't make the event not horrible.

This event was far from horrible, but there's room to improve and this is a really cheap way of deflecting criticism.

>> No.10179273

>>10179091
wow, the food really was as bad as i've been reading. i'm sorry you guys paid money for that.

>> No.10179274

>>10179261
I'm not deflecting criticism, I'm just stating my own opinion. Everyone is free to moan about horrible news, give critique or suggest improvements. I agree that the pudding was a fail. I'm not staff so I'm not sure what happened to it. I am suggesting that people bring their A game in coordinating and to be friendly and social. I'm happily sorting and packing my haul and replying to new friend requests. I M O, much does depend on attitude, outlook and behavior at this event.

>> No.10179278

>>10179274

IMO the vast majority did though. There were a few 'sour faces' others were referencing (and I also did not get, I tried talking to one girl for a good half hour before giving up because she just wouldn't reciprocate), but I think the majority of people were very friendly and outgoing. I was really happy with the coordinates.

I had a pretty positive experience because of the people, but if it comes down to the event itself, it's not something I'd go to by itself. I would really have to consider who's coming next year to reassess if I want to come again.

>> No.10179291

The vibe this year was a lot more stuck up and overall lost its vibe it had the past few years. The venues are getting bigger and better, but the events aren’t and the intrigue of the event isn’t either. Needs something completely new next year

>> No.10179292

A suggestion for those going next year. You have a full year to pull together 2 solid coordinates that fit correctly are cleaned and ironed, to find shoes that you can keep on all day, to get a not-itchy wig that is secured and brushed...you get the idea. One thing I am really tired of is people being crabby and bitchy at an event, whining about their own coordinate failings. Save the crying for your private FB friends and step up your event game people.

Also learn how to sit down gracefully in a dress, maybe?

>> No.10179294

>>10179291
How do you mean? With the 3F designers as featured guests, that’s always going to set a certain mood and I'm not mad about that. I thought most people were decently friendly, I didn't think anyone was stuck up. I did meet some awkward potatoes though.

>> No.10179305

>>10179292
If you're such an autist that you're paying attention to how people sit instead of doing something fun or productive are you really in the position to give suggestions to others? Just saying.

>> No.10179310

>>10179305
>if you care about precise details you can't give suggestions to other people!!!!
Huh?

>> No.10179324

>>10179310
You know that's not what I meant but nice try.

>> No.10179331

>>10178308
There's too many perfect fucking reactions here, it's absurd, I actually can't pick a favorite.

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>>10179204

>> No.10179352

>>10179257
yeah I was pretty annoyed at the caterers. there was only enough water for everyone at my (not full) table to have half a glass. my friend asked for more water and they said yes and never brought it. this was at like 2 - the event was until 5:30 or so. so we didn't have water the rest of the time. and yeah, the food was not great. glad we made a mcdonald's run before.

>> No.10179362

>>10179339
The fuck is that

>> No.10179363

>>10179339
oh lord this legit looks like diarrhea

>> No.10179369

>>10178565
God that's so boring. No wonder all the brand shows lately have sucked.

>> No.10179384

>>10179352
Happened to our table as well - imo the room we were in was fairly warm and we obviously needed water to be consistently refilled. It was difficult to flag a staff member down and when you did they would say they'd bring more, but ours was only refilled once.

Also what was up with one person winning the majority of the raffle prizes on Day 1?

>> No.10179385

>>10179257
The event lasted until 6pm but they took away all the water at like 2pm, I was parched all afternoon, the only bad thing about day 2 was the caterers

>> No.10179389

>>10179362
It's the chocolate chia seed "pudding"

>> No.10179398

>>10179305
I was doing fun things all weekend. Guess Misako is an autist too since she cares about the topic enough to specifically demonstrate the way to sit and nicely tuck up. You did see how close together those chairs were and how large some of the people are right?

>> No.10179413

As someone who bought a VIP ticket, I feel like it wasn’t worth it at all. There was only one table marked for VIPs, so I didn’t even get a “better” seat at the tea party. Shopped at the same time because I was a model. So what did I pay for?

>> No.10179427

>>10179090
bad ouji is a better husbando desu

>> No.10179435

That one girl that opted to host her own auction for the umbrellas at the swap meet, way to actively take advantage of the community.

>> No.10179436

VD and IDD probably think Paradiso and anime cons are beneath them. They could have just not signed on,if they knew they were going to Germany. VD can be stuck up.

>> No.10179444

>>10179436
IDD has always had meh customer service so it wouldn't surprise me if she just decided Paradiso wasn't worth going to. Nevermind the fact that she just inconvenienced a ton of people and the people that ran the event with her last minute pulling out.

>> No.10179453

>>10179436
They pretty much service their friends first and foremost, which is whatever. But it really does make them seem aloof.

>> No.10179455

>>10179427
Spencer is an obnoxious man ita, I'm glad he wasn't there this time

>> No.10179458

>>10179435
that's MB, the one who demanded to be compensated for not being able to go to the VIP karaoke after party due to being underage. she also bought a ticket at last year's event, sold it, and then spammed the FB group so hard about wanting to buy one that a mod had to tell her she could only bump once a week. it was shitty to auction the umbrellas when we all thought it was supposed to rain. especially since they were damaged. it's a swap meet, not a business.

>> No.10179461

>>10179458
She was so rude and obnoxious all weekend. Parents shouldn't allow their underaged brats to run around events like this.

>>10179455
I want to meet his gf to ask her if she's being held hostage. She always looks terrified in all their pictures.

>> No.10179466

>>10179435
Yeah she bought those off somebody and then demanded a refund almost immediately afterwards.

>> No.10179472

>>10179413
The gift bag was decent.

>> No.10179477

>>10179435
She was politely but completely ignored for the entire event as the direct result of her own bad behaviour. And lolitas have extremely long memories.

>> No.10179479

>>10179472>>10179472
Pix of the contents, please? I'm very curious. There were two levels of gift bag, right?

>> No.10179480

>>10179435
She is a completely horrible person in general so I'm not surprised. I hope no one bought any of them.

>> No.10179485

>>10179339
So fancy. Diarrhea “pudding” and biglowe tea.

>> No.10179488

>>10179485
Yeah this, I was way more disappointed by the actual tea than the pudding. I didn't personally think the pudding was so bad, but it didn't fit the theme of decadence. I think it was vegan as well. The lemon curd fruit tart was good though, I wish there had been more. I could have gone for some more traditional tea fare, like scones and clotted cream.

>> No.10179495

>>10179461
shes 19 - over 18 but under 21

>> No.10179500

>>10179339
This literally looks like my shit after eating something greasy. How the FUCK did they think this was something to serve?

>> No.10179505

>>10179500
It honestly tasted like someone ate some sidewalk chalk, chocolate truffles, gelatin and shat it out into a bowl.

>> No.10179507

>>10179436
Paradiso is shitty, especially when you compare it to a Eurotrip. I’d skip out too.

>> No.10179523

>>10179505
I had to have surgery and it caused me to miss paradiso but man, if I had to do it over again i’d gladly get the surgery done instead of paying to be fed runny diarrhea

>> No.10179525

>>10179523
As much as I meme about the food, I still enjoyed the event.

>> No.10179527

>>10179427
Hi Spencer. Everyone still hates you

>> No.10179530

>>10179384
Last year everyone got at least one raffle ticket with their check in, this year they were all only for purchase

>> No.10179531 [DELETED] 

>>10179427
You just wish you could drive in this car.

>> No.10179533

>>10178122
There was just a box of fig newtons on one of the tables

>> No.10179534

>>10179527
You just wish you could take a ride in my car.

>> No.10179544

>>10179534
Baby you can drive MY car

>> No.10179547

>>10179436
I do t even think VDD is in Europe. Everyone else is posting shit and she isn’t

>> No.10179551

>>10178975
There weren't many peens in that bunch, let us straight girls enjoy that big dick energy!

>> No.10179575

>>10179534
*your leased car from your daddy

>> No.10179585

Did anyone snap a photo of the sissy in the vinyl fetish ball gown?

>> No.10179592

>>10179585
No but we saw him walk in and my friends and I just looked at each other like ‘da fuck’

>> No.10179602

>>10179339
that looks so unappetizing.

>> No.10179620

>>10179547
IDD is posting from Versailles and I think she’s attending some cool-looking ball.

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>>10179620
The Fêtes Galantes, where you get to dress up in historically inspired clothing and dance/drink/party in the Hall of Mirrors.

Can't blame her for skipping Paradiso for this, really. Although I just checked her Instagram and realized the chemise a la reine from the runway posted in this thread was from her collection.

>> No.10179630

>>10179627
Yeah this looks way more impressive and fun. Can’t blame her either. That’s like a once in a lifetime opportunity.

>> No.10179638

>>10179533
Hahaha a girl just brought that just because. I met her. She saved my life though with the fig newtons

>> No.10179648

>>10179627

I don't blame her either, but i do think she should have told them further in advance. She had plenty of time to plan this out.

>> No.10179654

>>10179648
Agreed. It's rude and unprofessional.

>> No.10179656

>>10179585
I didn't get a pic, but I audibly gasped....it was so uncomfortable

>> No.10179689

>>10179527
Is anyone named spencer not a douche?

>> No.10179721

>>10179585
Whaaaaat no!?
Surely they were asked to leave soon after?

>> No.10179722

>>10179585

Seriously wish I did, that was horrific. I was talking to a person I think is generally very polite and even she looked at him in horror. Did he get kicked out?

>> No.10179740

>>10179648
For sure. The date for Fêtes Galantes has been set for almost a year now, there's no excuse.

>> No.10179752

>>10178308
>that many amerifats
oh my god send help

>> No.10179755

>>10179205
That's the midwest for you. Try having the event on a coast if you want a base audience smaller than XXXL

>> No.10179776

>>10179495
Not true. She is in her 20's.

>> No.10179790

>>10179776
>in her 20s
>can’t legally drink
So, she’s 20?

>> No.10179806

>>10178606
>This is one thing I don’t get. People complain about Paradiso every year yet still go. What is the draw then?

Because it's literally the only large lolita event in North America?

>> No.10179860

>>10179755
More like that's the kind of people who would want to attend such an event.

>> No.10179861

>>10179776
I just checked. she graduated high school a year ago and her birthday is later this week. she's 19 retard

>> No.10179884

>>10179339
Nasty pudding aside, why do these tea parties always serve the most basic tea?

>> No.10179889

>>10179884
It was the cheapest tea they could get. I would have given the food a pass if the tea was decent.

>> No.10179907

Anyone wanna post their swapmeet/vendor hauls?

>> No.10179921

Best/Worst coords you saw?

>> No.10179923

>>10179921
Some chick in a gingham crop top at the swap meet was the worst. She looked like an "other Lolita" cosplayer.

>> No.10179931

>>10179860
Lolita events in Europe and even in California (like the Butler Cafe V events) are hardly ever as embarrassing as this.

>> No.10179949 [DELETED] 

>>10179585
He's part of the Metroplex community. Fortunately he doesn't attend most meets, but when he does show up I have a hard time hiding my disgust. Nobody else seems to have a problem with him tho.

>> No.10179959

>>10179575
My girlfriend calls me daddy

>> No.10179974

>>10179923
There was no dress code at all for the swap meet, karaoke, museum meet or arcade afterparty so I don't think they count.

>> No.10179981

>>10179654
Just speculating but she may have picked up a late ticket someone else was selling or maybe she was on a waitlist in case of cancellations. It happens.

>> No.10179986

>>10179436
Did they have a contract with Paradiso? And they let them break it that easily?

>> No.10180013

>>10179585
I can't believe I missed this, which day was it?

>> No.10180018

>>10179981
It wasn't last minute. Someone in the comments in her Instagram said "oh I forgot you were going to this!" so it was planned.

>>10179986
Her stuff was in the fashion show still, so did IDD (at least) just not have a vendor? Or did she send someone else to sell in her place maybe? Idk

>> No.10180032

>>10179384
I got the feeling that the box with the tickets wasn't very well mixed.

>>10179585
WHAT? How the fuck did I miss this? Day one or day two?

>> No.10180051

>>10179889
Most likely it is what catering provides in their contracts. And in a few cases you can get charged for bringing in your own food/beverage outside of a contract. One of the ways for tea party staff to get around this however is if they 'gift' you tea or place it in your goodie bags.

>> No.10180055

>>10179413
Sorry to hear about that, anon. I was VIP too and thought they could have done a lot better with the table set up for that. From the sound of things they could have done a lot more for the models in general.

>> No.10180061

>>10179889
Same

>> No.10180063

>>10179620
>>10179627
OctaveKitten and crazysporkiam went too. I'm jelly

>> No.10180080

>>10180063
Don't be jelly. Save up and go next year!

>> No.10180082

>>10180063
Same. That event looked amazing too. Everything I could ever want.

>> No.10180094

>>10179981

And prepared anywhere from 1-4 rococo gowns for the event? Doubtful. Even 1 rococo gown takes a fuckton of time.

>>10180018
Lolita collective sold some VDD stuff, but they were explicitly 'not happy' with how little VDD sent them. Didn't see IDD.

>> No.10180154

>>10180032
Day 2, he disappeared early in

>> No.10180226

>>10179479
VIP got an AP tote bag, clear file and keychains from AP. We also got a headdress, necklace, sticker pack and a hand fan. As far as the VIP experience, it was meh. I modeled so I got to shop earlier and get what I wanted. Didn't take advantage of any seating perks because I wanted to sit with friends.

The tea party was so disappointing. I would've been fine if it were in the union Station or hell, even the hotel if it meant more money for the food budget. We all know lolitas like to eat good food and drink nice tea. Why skimp on that?

Overall I still had a ton of fun and would go back next year. It's the only dedicated j-fashion event and I loved seeing my friends from around the country in one place.

>> No.10180238

>>10180226
I didnt attend but i agree food is important. What's the budget focus on. Venue, food, entertainment, and goodie bag? Youd think food would be top tier of priorities

Personally I think it's fine to skimp on entertainment since for me I'd be happy enough mingling with fellow lolitas to have a good time

>> No.10180369

>>10180094
>>10179986
>>10180018
>>10179648
Maybe she over-booked herself for events and needed to scale back. Whatever happened, I'm sure she worked it out with the Paradiso staff. I get it that this is a gossip/slam site but I don't automatically think the worst of people right from the start.

>>10179722
I was wondering that too. I think the white-face makeup was supposed to be shironuri though, and many people wear a lot of strange fashion with that. I am sure we will hear the story.

>> No.10180375

Since the event is an all-weekend gala (with a tea), I'm not really mad at the food situation. They advertised light refreshments on day one and I'm surprised more people aren't complaining about that more. On day 2, I was excited for the pageant, so the food portion was less important to me. I think people focus too much on the food, t b h they won't be happy until there is a traditional tea. Having that catered on a remote site is not cheap. It's really easy to get around Kansas City and go to breakfast and dinner.

>> No.10180378

>>10180238
> I didn't go but I'm going to chime in anyway with my opinion.

Venue, guest travel and accommodation, meals etc. Don't they have to pay to fly the Triple Fortune designers in and then pay for all their expenses?

>> No.10180402

>>10179931
That's because the non fats know they are worth going to. I'm in the midwest and only the fat girls in my comm were attending paridiso.

>> No.10180404

>>10180369
IDD and VDD overscheduled themselves this month. They were at Oddities in LA last weekend, had a booth somewhere 3 weeks ago, and IDD will be at Träumerei this weekend. Give indie brands some R&R. Not everyone has to revolve their lives around a fashion. Find other hobbies. Seems IDD does it with traveling and baroque.

>> No.10180495

How were the fashion show models/looks by AP and TF?

>> No.10180510

Honestly all the designs looked like bad theatre production ensembles. Triple fortune just looked like cosplay quality stuff. Ikkeman mode has some of the worst and most unflattering cuts.

>> No.10180516

>>10179585
They were near my table and definitely were stayed for awhile. They left early but still......

>> No.10180521

I run cons with brand sponsored tea parties. I know how expensive it is. No, working with remote caterers or venues isn't easy or cheap but that's why not everyone can be an event planner. They advertised it as an elegant tea party so we expected decent food. I won't forgive them for misrepresenting that and they should be held accountable. They should learn from it, budget better and improve on it next year. It's really not that hard.

>> No.10180526

>>10180521
OK which con?

>> No.10180528

>>10180495
I was very excited for 3F, but it was quite a disappointment. Only some looks felt like much thought was put into them compared to usual.

>> No.10180577

Event planners spent all our money on getting a low hanging fruit Japanese guest and renting out union station. This con is a bust. I know it’s the only lolita con we have here but we won’t have it for long. It’s not worth the travel or money. And for all those who had a good time. Of course you did. You got to do what you love and hang out with people and make new friends and feel beautiful for a weekend. Of course you enjoyed yourself. But Let’s not let that fact cover up the fact that paradiso is a mistake

>> No.10180584

Friend of staff, no one was happy with the food, even staff from what I heard. The food was rushed and not at all like the taste test/samples. The pudding was a last minute switch that NO ONE approved of. Not even staff knew what it was and we all about died trying it. We all can collectively agree Day two food was more hit than miss. Other issues arose with them, and from what I was told it won’t under any circumstances be the same company next year.

>> No.10180587

>>10180584
More miss than hit I meant*

>> No.10180588

“Friend of staff” damage control

>> No.10180591

>>10180404
>Find other hobbies

Don't advertise yourself as a business and sign contracts if you feel like dropping them because of your own poor decisions to overbook. IDD has a long history of bailing because she feels like it so anyone who does business with her should be wary, anyway.

>> No.10180594

>>10180588
Nah not staff. It’s just the facts. I’m not making excuses for them, just acknowledging they know they fucked up.

>> No.10180598

IDD is flakey trash. This wasn’t some last minute overbooking by management. It’s a shitty move and more people should be posting about it on social media so maybe she’ll explain her accountability or else she’ll just feel like she’s getting away with it and will continue to screw people over.

>> No.10180616

>>10180598
she'd just make a post about how she's ~~overworked~~ and she had the chance to live her dream at Versailles and sometimes life is about chasing your dreams even if it means leaving your business to the side, but oh she's looking forward to sharing her new creations at upcoming events, hope to see you there! <33

>> No.10180637

I mean sure we can make excuses for her or we can just circulate a disclaimer like we do for every other person who barely looks at us wrong. IDD has ruffled enough feathers that something should actually happen about it

>> No.10180640

>>10180637
What other feathers has she ruffled?

>> No.10180646

>>10180577
>people enjoyed an event, but obviously the event is horrible and not worth it

Bruh do you even read your own posts

>> No.10180672

>>10180646
Did YOU read their comment? They're saying of people enjoyed themselves inconsequential of the event.

>> No.10180683

Yeah I obviously said you all enjoyed yourselves because this is an opportunity to do what you love around other people who love the same thing but paradiso itself as an event that you pay out the ass and travel across the country for is like a bad prom

>> No.10180772

>>10180526
A-Kon

>> No.10180777

>>10179959
Getting into DDLG now? Didn't realize you wanted to be more of a degenerate.

If it gets you out of the fashion, I guess.

>> No.10180780

>>10180378
Yeah why not. This is a board about Chinese cartoons. I'd consider guests a form of entertainment.

I've gone to other events to know what matters to me in these sorts of things.

>> No.10180792

>>10180683
learn to reply properly please

>> No.10180811

>>10180598
Kek. I think you need to take a social media break. She’s an adult and can do what she likes. If the organizations she works with feel slighted, they won’t work with her again. She’s living her best life in France and I have no hate for that.

>> No.10180846

>>10180811
>She's an adult and can do what she likes

"It's okay to be unprofessional because you're an adult and adults can do what they want!"

Kelsey's not going to make you custom dresses for kissing her ass on /cgl/, hun.

>> No.10180866

>>10180404
>>10180811

Nobody is saying IDD can never have fun. Just do it responsibly ffs, not tell an organization 2 days before buh bye I'm going to France instead have fun. Is it that hard?

It also sort of aligns with her customer service (or lack thereof). She makes beautiful designs but we all know that they're ridiculously hard to get, and her customer service isn't great. This is not out of character for her.

>> No.10180906

>>10180577
First, it's not a con so there are a few different goals. Second, 3F is not low hanging fruit, they are an underrated brand with an impressive history. Third, Paradiso keeps getting bigger each year so tell me again how is it ’a mistake’?

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absolutely disgusting

>> No.10181017

>>10178431
lmao, I didn't even see that one, was too disgusted by the front row.

>> No.10181057

>>10180772
Ok sis but the food at Akon fucking sucked last year. Not as bad as paradickso but y’all ran out of food half way through and had the tea in a white ugly conference room.

>> No.10181080

>>10180528
I think they did it well, several off the rack looks, and one size-inclusive, 2 OTT looks, then 2 editorial looks. Also coaching the models a lot and using their own music. I think it was right-sized for the event. I think everything but the 2 cage skirt looks were for sale directly after as well. Also, the main thing - they brought bonnets!

>> No.10181085

>>10180984

>all the two teas offered
>in bags

Very decadent tea party, it's post event day 2 and I'm still sore about the food and catering.

>> No.10181087

>>10181085
Excuse you, they had three teas.

>> No.10181100

>>10181080
MB bought one of the cage skirts lmao. She harassed them untill they would sell it to her.

>> No.10181103

>>10181087
Yeah, one whole green tea bag per table. Decadent.

>> No.10181105

>>10181100
Really? I heard they sold both of them to the girls wearing them on the runway.

>> No.10181106

>>10181087
>>10181103

yeah I didn't even realize they had green tea because I guess someone took the only one. Jesus, how cheap were they.

>> No.10181107

>>10181100
No fucking way. Seriously?!

>> No.10181109

>>10181085
I'm a mountain of salt.

>> No.10181111

>>10181106
A girl came to my table to trade ours for a friend. It was pretty messed up how bad the catering was

>> No.10181115

>>10181103
Only the best Bigelow, anon.

>> No.10181129

>>10180846
Kek. And being this salty about a stranger's personal time can't be good for your health.

>> No.10181135

>>10181129
But it's not her personal time? She runs a business, and the business promised to be at an event. She shouldn't have agreed to do the event or at least gave more than 48hr notice that she was dropping out.

>> No.10181141

>>10181135
She did give notice she was not going and you don't get to make the rules on how long of a notice is necessary. It's her personal time. Quit being so entitled.

>> No.10181142

>>10181100
MB wasn’t the one who bought it. You’re getting her confused with MA. They were running around all day being annoying together though, so I can see how you would be confused.

>> No.10181144

>>10181129
>It's okay to be unprofessional because she calls it her "personal time" when she feels like--yet again--flaking on her business deals

This is why no one takes Western "brands" seriously.

>> No.10181145

>>10181141
48 hours before the event is not "notice," dear. Quit being such a whiteknight.

>> No.10181147

>>10181144
>>10181145
Quit samefagging. Keep crying, I guess. It must hurt to not be able to buy more at a shit event.

>> No.10181151

>>10181100
lmao way to get caught spreading fake rumors anon

>> No.10181175

>>10181105
>>10181142
MA bought it for MB.

>> No.10181191

New thread >>10181189

>> No.10181209

>>10178310
>Everbody in the front row looks disgusting
fxed it for you

>> No.10181238

>>10181209
Bahaha

>> No.10181250

>>10181100
I'm not sure where she's planning to wear it since all the good local lolitas shun her. Harassing visiting designers is so not cool.

>> No.10181288

>>10181057
last year's menu was garbage

year 2 was a-kon's best anon, i am disappointted

>> No.10189028

>>10176239
Dear GOD/GODS and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS):

The next time I wake up, please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER.

I am so sick of this chubby Asian man body!

Thank you!

- CHAUL JHIN KIM (a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)