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>>10224802

>> No.10224833

>>10224802
I wish the high waist section was a solid color.

>> No.10224859

>>10224802
Not using the rabbit print to start the new general...

>> No.10224978

>>10224802
>blouse sold out
Fuck me

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>>10224859
That's older, and not my cup of tea

>> No.10225115
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are you all buying a mini mana? i don't even care if it's overpriced, at this point i'm just grateful moitie didn't close down completely.

>> No.10225130

>>10225107
Wrong rabbit...lol.

>> No.10225133

>>10225115
It’s a bit dumb but I still want one. The EGA version though I think. I hate this pose!

>> No.10225143

>>10225115
It's cheaper to scan him from an old GLB and drown him in resin yourself tbhon. Why would you want an effigy of a fifty year old transvestite when this is about the fashion?

>> No.10225162 [DELETED] 

>>10225143
Because it's my favourite brand, he got me into lolita and I want to donate all my savings to Moitie. I'm also too passive to make my own things.

>> No.10225164 [DELETED] 

>>10225143
>>10225143 #
Because it's my favourite brand, he got me into lolita and I want to donate all my savings to Moitie.

>> No.10225166

>>10225143
Because it's my favourite brand, he got me into lolita and I want to donate all my savings to Moitie.

>> No.10225226

>>10225107
They meant the rabbit dissection print

>> No.10225269

Speaking of Moi meme Moitie, their card cases and wallets are on sale

>> No.10225271

>>10225115
I liked the egl one the best but I got both because I ship mana x mana

>> No.10225300

I miss getting updates on Meta. Please come back to us, Meta anon.

>> No.10225310

Anon who asked where to buy a lot of socks from the same shop, look here:
https://www.mercari.com/jp/u/828934039/

>> No.10225315

and here:
https://item.mercari.com/jp/m39907828844/
>>10225310

>> No.10225399

>>10225310
>>10225315
It was also the anon paranoid about buying secondhand socks.

>> No.10225400

>>10225115
Moitie is broken

>> No.10225453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUjVPIEtJd0

I Got A Japanese Lolita Makeover In Tokyo
Safiya Nygaard w/ Rinrin

>> No.10225460

>>10225453
I liked her video a lot but I won’t lie I’m fearful of what her normie fans will say

>> No.10225461

>>10225453
well that wasn't bad at all!

>> No.10225462

>>10225460
I think she takes it on with so much respect it will be good for her normie fans to see.

>> No.10225485

>>10225453
This was actually really well done.

>> No.10225488

>>10225453
She seems so nice and the comments are all positive, I really like it.

The only thing that makes me sad is being reminded of how high the waist/how short the length of most dresses on girls as tall as her (and me) is...really a pity.

>> No.10225490

>>10225453
I really want a corset from the first shop, Abilletage, now. Those are beautiful. And that green dress with the flower corset from Ate Pie.

>> No.10225499

>>10225453
I'm having the time of my life and the comments are all nice. I wonder if we will have an influx of newbies but she did a good job to show what the fashion actually is.

>> No.10225500

>>10225453
I'm a huge Saf fan so I'm really happy about this. I thought she would only suit goth but wow AP looked great on her too!

>>10225460
Saf explores a lot of "weird"/alt fashions in her videos so I think everyone will like this just as much as those.

>> No.10225513

>>10225269
This is a much better way for me to invest in the brand. I personally don’t like the mini Manas, I’m there for my fashion aesthetic, not little images of him. I’m not mad at them though, and I think we will see them go on some amusing adventures.

>> No.10225519

>>10225460
I've read through the comments, it's incredibly civil. I'm so proud. She did such a great job explaining it, and I think her focus on the gothic/historical side of the fashion really helped sell it as an alternative fashion, rather than the "pedo bait Lolita uwu" normies seem to conclude.

>> No.10225521

>>10225500
I know! I was so surprised when she stepped out in AP and it actually looked great on her.

>> No.10225529

>>10225453
When a normie coached by RinRin completely shows up all of the lolita youtubers besides Misako in one well done video. And in the notes, paid for everything but one part of the styling herself. I’m also thinking of the wasteland that anyone actually becoming interested faces once they finish her video and look for any good Western resources that aren’t stupid saccharine or glittering salt. Damn.

>> No.10225538

>>10225529
People in the comments are already talking about how they want to participate, but that it's too expensive for them. But hey, at least people are interested.

>> No.10225542

>>10225538
Hopefully someone lets them know that there are cheaper options.

>> No.10225547

>>10225453
I love that she highlighted stylistic diversity and individual choice instead of choosing only one representative aesthetic. Plus, she's all prepped for Corset Day!

>> No.10225548

>>10225542
I’m glad she went to the brands she did and emphasized the way it made her feel and showed the shopping experience. I’d love to go and shop at La Foret shops! Maybe someday! I’m also glad they wore Japanese brand and went to a nice cafe, not Bodyline at the Cracker Barrel. On an interesting side note, Hideyuki Makabe owns Bodyline now so amusingly, it’s actually become Japanese-owned company now.

>> No.10225549

>>10225542
I've seen a few people commenting about second hand and Taobao, and I'm trying to answer questions too before someone inevitably sweeps in with "Just buy it from wish lol".
I know it's stupid, but I want to help these kids learn more about lolita, so they can have a chance to fall in love with it too

>> No.10225555

>>10225547
Hopefully someone mentioned corset day in the comments? I’m really looking forward to it!

>> No.10225560

>>10225555
Can we stop with this corset day meme. It's a minor twitter thing. All this posting sounds like some scrote with a fetish fishing for pics.

>> No.10225563

>>10225560
We have our thread about it that hit image bump limit already and another thread going fine with all the photos I could want. Please notice that no one is spamming the General with those or much conversation of it specifically so just ease your ruffles here. A couple of mentions of it as an event that some of us are looking forward to also participating in is fine, just like any other j-fashion event. I understand that not everyone is interested but please do not just get a bug in your ass over a couple of mentions.

>> No.10225571

>>10225529
to be fair, she comes from buzzfeed and has 8 million subscribers. thats serious youtube dollars, no lolita has that kind of money or production skills.

>> No.10225576

hopeygal 2.0 https://egl.circlly.com/users/tulutulu
is there anyway to report them to stop them coming back?

>> No.10225627

>>10225571
Still don’t you think the lolita youtubers could be doing a bit better? Like maybe leaving their rooms for something other than a con? Filming a tea or more get ready with me, follow me around type videos. I’d love to follow a lifestyle lolita who filmed even a couple of lifestyle topics per month. I’d likely do that myself but I’m old and crabby and I dislike Sweet and it shows, lol.

>> No.10225630

>>10225627

FR did that a little bit but people bitched her out.

I'd do videos but I have the charisma of a hermit crab and people are ready to criticize everything from posture to nails. Also see above. Nah.

>> No.10225632

>>10225630
I liked the FR videos she did. I think you have to just have a thick skin and do it because it’s something you want to do and withstand the trial by fire until you have about 20 videos up. By then people are resigned to you as a fixture and you’ll have your legit fans and your detractors but you’ll always have the rabid crazy crabs in the frilly bucket that you just have to ignore to do anything significantly above the bitch radar in this fashion.

>> No.10225633

>>10225453

This was done so well. I really liked it, and it's so positive and refreshing unlike the 'uwu poor misunderstood mentally ill me' videos we usually see. I need to watch more Safiya videos, they're really enjoyable and while click baity, she takes such a down to earth approach that you end up enjoying them anyways.

>> No.10225638

>>10225632

Eh, it's not something I want to pursue. I blog already and I'm pretty comfortable with that even though it's pretty dead. I have heard myself in action (I lecture), and while I have good delivery, I hate how I sound and my posture. I don't think I'm really suited for the youtube world, but here's to hoping there will be a lot of lolitas inspired by this video!

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>>10225453
1,5 Million clicks within 12 hours
I especially liked that she showed those old fruit magazine streetsnaps and even included our lord and saviour

>> No.10225760

Someone at closetchild screwed up pretty badly listing a few special dresses at around $100. Do you think Closet Child cancel those orders or did they gave a way those special dresses at a great price?

>> No.10225762

>>10225760
Looking at it, the pics are just on the wrong ones, I don’t think they will sell you it for cheap. You will get the cheap whatever it was or they will cancel it, no way they will give you the dress

>> No.10225765

>>10225760
They fuck up like this occasionally. They’ll put the wrong photos on the listing, but the listing says what dress it’s supposed to be (with color and brand), so I feel like they’ll honor the listing, not the photos.

>> No.10225774

>>10225760
>will they give me those 1-2k dollar dresses for 30 bucks?
What do you think anon?
They will ship the described/named item. I'd ask them to cancel it if I were you.

>> No.10225793

>>10225453
Sauce on the black OP Rinrin was wearing?

>> No.10225794

>>10225760
I think my friend tried on one of the funky listings when they messed up before, they just cancelled it and refunded her the money.

>> No.10225798

>>10225793
I'm looking for that, and also the ring safiya was wearing that looks like celestia's, i cant find the shop.

>> No.10225802

>>10225453
>constant sex/innuendo jokes
>constant bad American pop media references
>annoying manchild commentary from videographer

Did I just watch the same thing? 90% of what the host said was garbage. Plus, almost nothing fit her, she looked so bad except for her makeup and hair.

Wonder if they got permission for all the ganked footage and photos.

>> No.10225804

>>10225802
>Wonder if they got permission for all the ganked footage and photos.

This was my first thought watching it, especially with the deerstalkers footage. It felt almost disrespectful to use such iconic footage unless they somehow got permission?

>> No.10225806

>>10225802
>>10225804
You don't legally need permission to use media if the context you're using it is educational, and you could definitely make the case that this video could be used for educational purposes in regards to Lolita.

>> No.10225807

>>10225453
I already like her channel and was nervous beforehand of how it would turn out, but this is very good. Better than most “What is lolita?” videos. Although I’m kind of sad in realizing that a normie like her probably understands it as a fashion/pulls it off better than a good portion of people in this community.

If there had to be an introduction video to break 1.5 mil, I’m glad it was this one.

>> No.10225810

>>10225310
>>10225399
Not that anon, but I want these and I feel embarrassed about asking my usual SS to buy used socks.

>> No.10225811

>>10225802
They only used small parts of many kinds of footage as examples and reference, that's easily covered under fair use.
She's not a lolita, she's an American normie just exploring and trying out the fashion, so why would you expect her to veer off from her own very successful format? The ’manchild’ is her partner.
Those fits are what many American women over 5’4 or so do face so it is a hard lesson on why its a good idea to be very choosy with your OP and JSK cuts, something even most lolitas ignore.

>> No.10225812

>>10225802
This is so needlessly mean that I can't help but think it's bait

>> No.10225815

>>10225806
Doesn’t mean it’s not disrespectful as fuck? You can legally call a child a cunt but that doesn’t make it okay?

>> No.10225817

>>10225806
Even for the non-streetsnap outfit shots? I recognized some of those from daily lolita. I liked the video, just honestly wondering.

>> No.10225818

>>10225815
You're really reaching for shit to be offended by

>> No.10225823

>>10225815
I agree, reaching. Why are you so sour a normie made an ’I tried Lolita’ video? Be truthful. No it wasn't the best, she's not a lolita...and YouTubers use reference footage all the time. She featured Japanese brands, took all the guidance very well, pronounced everything correctly, and did not portray the fashion or the people in it at all strangely. I think she did well for the premise. Is she a ’good lolita’? Of course not, she's a normie just trying it, and a YouTuber with an agenda for a huge non-lolita audience.
I'm not mad at this video. It's better than any other ’intro to lolita’ video that has reached a large mainstream audience.

>> No.10225829 [DELETED] 

>>10225823
>>10225818
Larpers detected. If you weren’t just larpers you would know why people want respect for iconic pieces of lolita history.

>> No.10225833 [DELETED] 

>>10225793
>>10225798
most the time it's very obvious which store they are in, they detail all the items she bought and wore in the description, and if you are quick to pause they flash a little detail card of what each item is on screen in the video.

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>>10225829
I hope your reply is ironic bc I'm laughing so hard

>> No.10225841

Read the comments.
People are thanking her for having their stuff featured in her video. She has over 8 million subs, that's basically free promotion for them.

>>10225823
Absolutely agree. They're just stuck up bitches so obsessed with being different that they throw a fit when "their" little thing gets exposed to a greater audience and might turn a bit more mainstream (it won't).
Nobody is gonna steal away your AP, it's just a video for fun, no need to get so pressed over it.

>>10225802
I guess you're the same person. Newsflash, dressing in lolita =/= behaving and talking like an obedient little maiden during the 18th century waiting to get married off. What she said was harmless. If she acted in the way you like, nobody would watch her shit.

>> No.10225846

>tfw that buzzfeed fatty’s video brought a bunch of newfags here

Man, this summer was already rough but it looks like we’re in for another heatwave

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>>10225798
She introduces the shop before they ever step into it and then says the name of it a second time when she references the finger armor later. She straight up links it and all their social media in the description of the video so I don't understand how you can't find it.
Abilletage.

>> No.10225853

>>10225806
>educational
That's implying an awful lot. And also hun, she's making money on this.
She has no legal basis for making money off of anyone's likeness, she doesn't need you defending her.

>> No.10225859

>>10225846
>she brought newfags here
Bitch where

>> No.10225861

>>10225853
less than 10 second clips to illustrate a point about community or about the lolita bell shape. How terrible.
Why are you so bitter that she makes money? Did you fail at becoming a youtuber?

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>>10225853
>hun

>> No.10225865

>>10225853
You're right, no one in the education business has ever made any money

>> No.10225866

>>10225846
>fatty-chan
>newfags
>REEEEE
When will self-proclaimed oldfags stop being so bitter towards everybody and everything in this world?
This is an anonymous site, you can never know who you're alking to, you're just screeching into a void.

>> No.10225867

>>10225861
She probably did, she's so assblasted lmao. That, or like the other anon mentioned, she feels like her uwu unique fashion is being threatened by normies.

>> No.10225868

>>10225866
Whenever someone uses newfag or summer as a response to valid opinions 99% they're a newfag themselves

>> No.10225869

>>10225849
>I don't understand how you can't find it.
I don't understand why people don't recognise Abilletage

>> No.10225876

>>10225869
As an epitome of sweet trash, I honestly hadn't heard of them before, even having worn lolita for 5 years, but seeing the shop and items I'm rethinking my sweet ways because their stuff is gorgeous.

>> No.10225877

She's 5’10 with big-ass feet. I want to know what those shoes are that fit her, sauce please? I want some brand shoes and I'm solid 26.0, 25.5 hurts my toe. I want brand shoes!

>> No.10225879

>>10225876
Adding one of their corsets and even a little heel and more elegant accessories can ’grow up’ a sweet look! I'm hoping more lolitas will find ways to stick with their sweet style and just age it up some. Things like this can do it.

>> No.10225880 [DELETED] 

>>10225868
>no u

W e w that deflection.

>> No.10225884

>>10225877
AP makes a 25.5 cm tea party, that’s what it is.

>> No.10225885

>>10225880
No u

>> No.10225887

>>10225876
I thought their legwear was well-known, I see replicas of it all the time

>> No.10225888

I have been into lolita fashion for a while. But size has always been a bother for me. I absolutely love btssb sweet prints but they just don't make them in my size. I have a healthy body and normal proportions but i'm just large.

Do anyone know about any good stores where one can buy btssb style dresses or even replicas in larger sizes?

>> No.10225890

>>10225859
Nayrt but
>facebook memes and discord speech
It's very obvious.

>> No.10225892

>>10225888
OUT

>> No.10225893

>>10225853
Let anyone who is shown in the video as a ’good example’, (because there were no critical ones, everything was positive) and butthurt over it fight that battle for themselves if they are so inclined, I'm sure she did not show you, lol.

Frankly I'm embarrassed that bitter bitches are screeching over something so generally positive when there has been so many things (including a video that Lor was in and yes made money from) portraying lolita fashion people in such a bad, creepy or freaky way. Thank God Safiya went with RinRin instead of hooking up with someone like Lor.
RinRin and the shop staff styled her, and western lolitas aren't known to be up on good trends anyway so I'm laughing at people doubtful about corset braids and Abilletage a brand that has been around since 2010 being seen as ’unknown’. The designer is a 2004 Bunka graduate. Clues, have some!

>> No.10225894

>>10225888
>replicas
Lost me there anon. I would have helped but you can eat shit.

>> No.10225895

>>10225888
i take back everything I said >>10225846 was right

>> No.10225896

>>10225888
Don't do replicas. Research into sizing, find a few lolitas with similar height and weight to follow and dig in and learn some stuff.

>> No.10225897

>>10225893
You've spent a lot of your time being the lone ranger, trying so very hard to fight against all the meanies and give some youtuber justice in a fucking 4chan thread.
Please get a hobby.

>> No.10225898

>>10225893
Tbh the people who viciously defend it and are calling names just because OP said she didn't like the video sound more bitter.

>> No.10225899

>>10225888
Nobody believes you are "just large". Baby makes dresses that fit a 95cm waist.

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>>10225897
You can think of it that way but a lot more people lurk here than post so I'm not writing this for the naysayers, they have made up their minds to hate the normie (which also makes them seem like what they say they don't want to be portrayed as insular freaks who sperg at ’outsiders’) but to the people saying ’but why is it a bad thing, she portrayed in nicely’...it isn't bad and yes she did.

Frankly except for Misako’s occasional videos, I don't see much of anything else good on video about lolita at all, its pretty much crickets. Because everyone's afraid of bring torn apart if they even try to make fun videos, I guess.

>> No.10225902

>>10225901
Does that skirt and corset set have a name

>> No.10225903

>>10225890
>>10225894
I know that some people really dislike replicas. And i wish that i could order btssb and wear it because i definitely have the money to spend. But it would just be sad to spend that kind of money for a dress that would be way to short, strain my waist and just be a bad time in general. I think btssb don't offer dresses in my size because they don't deem the market to be profitable enough.

So what am i supposed to do? If i could fit into btssb i would just spend the money and do it properly. But buying brand just isn't an option because it will not fit. And i don't know of any brand that makes original designs and offer the size i need.

>>10225899
Okay i will be more precise with you. I am 187 cm tall. So the most common problem is length. My waist is 85 cm. You're correct though, no one seems to believe me.

>> No.10225904

>>10225861
Would it really have been so hard getting permission first? Or shooting the extra footage with rinrin to illustrate?
It's the cheap easy way out.
I hope there's someone in her vid that calls it out and takes action just to spite your dumbass argument anon.
Again, some stranger on the internet doesn't need you defending them, I'm sure she appreciates your money and views though!
Go watch more of them and fuck off.

>> No.10225905

>>10225903
It's a sissy, everyone abort

>> No.10225907

>>10225793
Seconding. Anyone know where it's from?

>> No.10225908

>>10225904
Literally half of youtube is reaction based. You can't "take action" against something that's perfectly within fair use. You think lor is gonna take action against something she does as well? Are you retarded?

>> No.10225909 [DELETED] 

>>10225903
>all this whining
Just post again next thread, could even reuse you post, just omit 'replica' and you will get legit replies that may actually be helpful to you.
That being said, the fact you'd even consider them is a black stain on your heart. Don't feed into that anon.

>> No.10225910

>>10225909
Anon, it's a man, don't try to help them

>> No.10225911

>>10225903
Btssb has long dresses in stock right now. They also release fully shirred skirts.

>> No.10225912

>>10225841
I'm >>10225802 and no, I only posted once before this. What a shocker that other people have the same opinion.

>Newsflash, dressing in lolita =/= behaving and talking like an obedient little maiden during the 18th century waiting to get married off.

What a reach, careful before you bust your full shirring.

It started strong, I'll give you that. But the creeper hotel cracks at Rinrin right away is so tacky and gross. She made a lot of sexual/innuendo jokes throughout, which I felt like wasn't necessary, especially considering the fine line lolita fashion has to walk most of the time. The constant butt comments also makes the host look mentally stunted, at best.

It would have been super strong without those comments and shit tier references. Hell, I'd even give mr manchild a pass. But you cannot sit there and tell me that kind of commentary is professional.

>> No.10225915

>>10225896
I can't seem to find them. Most lolitas doesn't really provide their measurements up front so it's kind of hard to figure out as well.

>>10225911
I have been checking up on btssb regularly for quite some time. And the dresses that actually are long enough seem to have waists that are too narrow. And vice versa.

>> No.10225917

>>10225908
>>10225893
Keep your shit posting straight
You can take action, and no it's not 'fair use'
I haven't seen the video and I'm arguing from the perspective that if the photos were taken from a source you could claim was private, it's not acceptable to use for a monetized video.
It doesn't have to be derogatory, just non public to have a basis for complaint.

Again, I hope she gets demonitized, if for no other reason than to upset you and all others like you coming here to sing her praise and suck her asshole.

>> No.10225929

>>10225917
But they're not private, dumbass. All the source material was public. If you haven't seen the video then shut the fuck up

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Reservation date: Monday, July 22nd 10:00 JST to Wednesday, 31st 23:59 JST

>> No.10225947
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>>10225912
>you cannot sit there and tell me that kind of commentary is professional
It's just a youtube video, Karen!

Is it professional when the owner of a lolita brand posts this?
Mana and Misako would laugh at your pathetic no-fun-allowed ass.

>> No.10225949

>>10225912
She’s done a number of videos with Rinrin in the past. You get to decide how friends joke around together now? Interesting.
You also get to decide how people joke with their SO and when a SO is allowed to check out their butt or lack of?
2 jokes constitutes "a lot" of innuendos? Unless you're projecting and seeing more to other innocent comments than are actually there.
Chill

>> No.10225951

>>10225903
Unfortunately, if you are a guy, please give up on it and find another alternative fashion to better suit you. Most of us won't really help guys in lolita. And a guy in a replica will be told ’get out’ for sure.

>> No.10225953

>>10225929
>all of it is public
Citation needed.

I love how you latched onto this as soon as I mentioned it though. Cute.
If a model posted up their images and someone used them in a monetized video (likeness rights is literally what their income is generated from) would they not have grounds for a c&d?

>> No.10225955

>>10225892
>>10225894
>>10225895
>>10225905
>>10225951

Well okay i didn't expect it to turn into such a shitshow. I mentioned replicas mostly for attention and because i was hoping that someone could give me advice that could lead me in a better direction.

If anyone knows where i can buy sweet lolita dresses in larger sizes i would love to know. I like btssb designs so anything in that spirit would be great. The more legitimate the better, and i have a whole lot of money to spend if i find what i'm looking for.

>> No.10225956

>>10225915
Nayrt but I just looked at their webshop and literally the first long dress I saw has a free waist and nearly 100cm bust. You're full of shit.

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>>10225955
You don't need "larger sizes", your measurements fit tons of releases from AP and Baby. But if you're so extremely tall and have so much money, why not get something like pic related?

>> No.10225962

>>10225955
So you are a man.

>> No.10225964

>>10225955
A bunch of taobao brands cater to large sizes. Have you tried milanoo? They sell a lot of sweet style dresses.

>> No.10225968

Well this thread is literally why we can't have good things.

>> No.10225970

>>10225849
Abilletage doesn't make anything like that. They do however carry Gimmel Garden at their physical shop, which is likely where the ring was from >>10225798
http://shop.sipka.jp/item.php?cid1=109

>> No.10225972

>>10225968
Oh no, anons dare to discuss and share their diverse opinions, how horrible!
Go back.

>> No.10225974

Is Necrosarium a reseller or do they make their own stuff? I've seen some stuff I like but the prices are v cheap so I'm thinking they might have got it off taobao.

>> No.10225975

>>10225972

i wouldn't really call this a discussion

>> No.10225977

>>10225910
>>10225962
You two sound bigoted. Since when is lolita fashion only for females? Don't tell me you're a conservative who thinks men have to look super boring and masculine all the time?

>> No.10225978

>>10225956
I think i found it. Kind of surprised i missed it. Probably because i was browsing for dresses with lower waists as that is my preference. This might work out for me though

>>10225960
I'm looking for something more sweet. Toy's fluffy dream and stardust fantasia are like my dream dresses. But i can't really wear them. I will try to look into more past releases though. If you could give me any pointers i would really appreciate it.

>>10225964
When i was active on cgl milanoo used to be bit of a meme. But maybe times have changed? I will check it out and try not to order myself some lace monster.

>> No.10225982

>>10225975
Then you may not belong here.

>>10225977
Just go away tranner.

>> No.10225988

secrets

>> No.10225989

>>10225982

Oh no the 4chan policeman says I need to go.

Lmao you fuck off.

>> No.10225990

>>10225978
To create a lower waist, you can wear a cardigan on top of high-waisted dresses and wear a belt hidden underneath the cardigan. But at that point you might as well wear a skirt.

>> No.10225993

>>10225988
Oh wow what happened? Did RC catch fire again?

>> No.10225994

>>10225982
How does it feel to be one of the only conservatives in an alt fashion comm

>> No.10225995

>>10225974
They make them, the newest things they're making have handmade polymer roses, so they've been charging a little more than the older stuff.
I'm sure they likely get the filligree and findings from china though.

>> No.10225996

>>10225988
I want to say that every one of those DDLG secrets is bait. Lor said she didn't read the book and only watched the movie but she was still aware that humbert was fucked up and it's NOT a love story - I'm guessing none of the ddlg thots watched her video and just REEE-d at the title.
I'm usually the last person to defend Lor, I don't think she's a great spokesperson but her video wasn't wrong - if you're mad that your two conflicting interests conflict, either pick one or accept the conflict.

-10 points to me for taking the bait though

>> No.10225997

>>10225995
Thank you, you're based. Now to make an order and be the goth I've always wanted to be.

>> No.10225999

>>10225936
MERMAID SKIRT HELL YEAH

>> No.10226000

>>10225936
>Waist: 71 cm (adjustable with corset lacing)
>Hip: 96 cm
I just measured my butt several times to try to convince myself I will fit this

>> No.10226001

>>10225994
Not liking replica trannies in my fashion doesn't automatically make me conservative.

>> No.10226002

>>10225999

ilu mermaid skirt anon.

>> No.10226004

>>10226002
aww, ilu too

>> No.10226006

>>10225964
Any port in a storm

>> No.10226012

>>10225953
The video literally had sources at the bottom of the screen for every image and video clip they used, and all of those were public, not "so-and-so's private instagram page".

>> No.10226013

>>10226001
The fact you immediately call someone a tranny because he or she is taller than you says enough. Like you can't comprehend that some males just like feminine fashion and want to wear it. You hate gender non-conforming people and you're probably alone in that in your comm. Sad.

>> No.10226016

>>10225953
Citations/sources are actually printed on each photo or video clip within the video. They are all public. She did an ok job for what it was, did not make lolita fashion look cringe or weird. Maybe my expectations are low but I think that's all we can really expect from an outsider trying lolita fashion as her 2/6 video in a light, for-entertainment-purposes-only series on Asian Fashion. This wasn't a documentary.

I also enjoyed seeing the shops, all the styling and I love the hair trend. The cafe looked fun and RinRin seemed to think the venture was a decently ok success. It's really not that big of a deal one way or the other for people who are actually wearing the fashion, is it?
Also points for no living doll references, straightforward explaining that lolitas wear it for ourselves and RinRin speaking about the perceived community of at least the well-dressed people online. I'd rather more focus on that than focus on comms and Cracker Barrel meets, taobao vs burando, and all the drama and tearing apart the itas. I'm not here for that stuff and I'm kind of tired of it.

>> No.10226019

>>10225936
That gray OP is to die for. Hnng.

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>>10225990
Smart. I'm considering buying the dress in the picture. If i extend it with a peeking underskirt i might be able to get it to knee length. It seems to be made for someone considerably shorter though. I hope it works out for me.

>>10226001
I am not a tranny and i do not own any replicas.

>>10226006
Haha good point

>> No.10226022

>>10226013
Lurk more or better, just straight up go back to tumblr. You're in for a surprise if you think a replica wearing tranny will be anything more than politely tolerated by a lot of lolitas. You can scream bigot as much as you want, but that won't change the fact that a lot of women will feel uncomfortable behind your back.

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>>10226016
10/10 reply
With that I'm out, carry on carrying on anon.

>> No.10226024

>>10225936
I really was interested in the fishtail skirt but looks like this collection might be sold out in a matter of hours and i'm broke. Oh well.

>> No.10226028

>>10226022
I'm a woman, the difference between us is that I don't immediately assume a tall person interested in lolita is a sexual deviant or trans. People in alt fashion comms are actually used to GNC people, go outside sometimes.

>> No.10226052

>>10226028
I'm the one that assumed they're a man, not the anon you're replying to. I know it hurts to hear this, but there are quite a few of us who are not immediately ok with men in the fashion. It might also hurt to hear that many lolitas have had bad and uncomfortable experiences with men using the fashion to prey on girls. A man on 4chan (he didn't deny the accusation) of all places that wants to be spoonfed and begins his post talking about replicas and lying about checking btssb, is not a man gulls should humor with proper responses. Even if it's not a man, you'd have to be really fucking dense not to be able to google "plus size lolita" in 2019

>> No.10226059

>>10226028
>>10226052
>A man on 4chan (he didn't deny the accusation) of all places that wants to be spoonfed and begins his post talking about replicas and lying about checking btssb, is not a man gulls should humor with proper responses.
This. Unlike many gulls I don't have a problem with trans women or respectful crossdressers, but you are so naive. Normal GNC males in this fashion are hard to come by. Stop trusting creepy men in the name of inclusivity. They're not welcome. They don't have good intentions.

>> No.10226060

>>10225890
/cgl/ is literally 90% facebook refugees.

>> No.10226061

>>10226060
It wasn't always this way.

>> No.10226062

>>10225977
>females
Robot incoming

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>>10226052
>>10226059

Why do you hate me so much?

>> No.10226073

>>10225947
I want this as my acrylic standee now. Also Mana loves Snoopy so he has his kawaii side.

>> No.10226081

>>10225936
So no one is crying yet about the mermaid skirt not having the ’proper lolita silhouette’? I'm surprised.

>> No.10226083

>>10226081
This... This isn't a new thing, though. It's not supposed to be worn as lolita, it can be worn as aristo

>> No.10226091

>>10225804
They didn't ask for the photos. one friend of mine was featured on the video and didn't even know about it. The photo was personal and from her blog.

>> No.10226105

>>10226091
>personal
>from her blog
You mean a blog that the public can access? That's not "personal"

>> No.10226111

>>10226091
So what does your friend think? Is she butthurt about it? As far as I could see from the credits everything was picked up from public sites which probably means that people agreed to be featured there which includes the possibility that their images being used as reference. It's really not a big deal to most people, especially since everything she referenced is about how people represent the style well, not holding them up to ridicule or even anything questionable. They were all positive examples.

>> No.10226112

>>10225936
>>10226083
I like aristo more and if like to see more people wearing it, these are really pretty.

>> No.10226121

Translator-chans are you still working on Kitai fuku ga aru?

>> No.10226123 [DELETED] 

>>10226081
noob detected

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>>10225829
>everyone that disagrees with my opinion is a larper!
salt levels are off the charts

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>>10225846
>>10225866
>>10225868
>>10225888
>>10225893
>>10225903
>>10225904
>>10225908
>>10225912
>>10225917
>>10225929
>>10225972
>>10225977
>>10225989
>>10225994
>>10226001
>>10226013
>>10226064
Baitiest bait

>>10225964
anon...

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Well that was fast. Anyone get the comments?

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>>10226236

>> No.10226251

>>10226238
not going to lie, this person's outfit is much cuter than some self-righteous bitch who posts someone else and talks trash will ever be, ita or not.

>> No.10226276

>>10226238
this is... really not that bad? for a first coord, it could be a lot worse

>> No.10226279

>>10226052
>but there are quite a few of us
On 4channel, known to be racist and transphobic, unlike irl lolita comms

>> No.10226284

>>10226279
>unlike irl lolita comms
We just don't talk about it irl. Doesn't mean we don't feel that way.

>> No.10226294

>>10226284
Sure lol,you are in the only comm that isn't full of SJW

>> No.10226299

>>10226284
If other comm members had bad experiences with them you should talk about it irl. Whispering behind the mods backs isn't going to help anyone. If seems strange you don't say it out loud if your comm feels the same way as you. Almost as if you're afraid they actually don't agree with you.

>> No.10226303

Am I the only one that gets really annoyed when a seller on LM doesn’t message you or anything when you buy something from them? They just simply silently send you the invoice and expects a good rating in communication. Idk it just frustrates me whenever it happens because I personally find it kind of rude, and sometimes when I try to contact them myself to just telI paid the invoice (so I can be sure if the transaction went smoothly on their end too) I don’t even get a reply

>> No.10226336

>>10226303
Do you expect them to be your penpal or something? The invoice acknowledges your order. They'll let you know if there's a problem, you don't need to nag sellers to ask if they received your payment.

>> No.10226339

>>10226336
And yet, we collectively shrug our shoulders and move on when a Japanese lolita cancels our buyee for exactly the same problems. They get ghosted by their buyer, why not demand better?

I do my best to keep a buyer informed, I demand nothing of their time in replies but I communicate what step of the process is going on because that's common fucking courtesy.

>> No.10226350 [DELETED] 

Extremely cringe

>> No.10226354

>>10226339
They cancel them because they don't want to sell to foreigners, not because they got ghosted.

>> No.10226357

>>10226336
I expect them to give me simple, basic communication so I as a buyer am aware of what is going on. Simply good manners, especially on a website where a part of the feedback is literally getting graded on your communication.

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>> No.10226360

>>10226299
>Almost as if you're afraid they actually don't agree with you.
Maybe they don't want to get banned for being "transphobic"? A lot of comm mods bent to hell and back to be inclusive and tolerate creepy predators. It's nothing new.

>> No.10226362

>>10226303
nah, I don't care if they message me as long as I get my item in the stated condition wrapped nicely in a timely manner. As long as someone is a competent seller, I don't really seek out a friendly correspondence. Not here to make friends, just buy more burando.

Something that does bug me is when people send me a message to ask what my PayPal is like they have no clue that it's stated right on the item page when I purchase their item. Petty, but I like it when the seller knows how to read.

>> No.10226364

>>10226359
>graphic design is my passion

>> No.10226370
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La Fleurie Chiffon OP (La fleurie chiffonシフォンワンピース)
Price: 42,984 yen (incl. tax)
Colours:
>Rose pink
>Mint green
>Lavender
>Navy

Length: 119.5 cm ( 47.05 inch )
Bust: 76 ~ 98 cm ( 29.92 ~ 38.58 inch )
Waist: 73 ~ 98 cm ( 28.74 ~ 38.58 inch )
Sleeve length: 19 cm ( 7.48 inch )

Materials: Polyester 100%
>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/656/pid/10639/
Item#: B43OP347
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La Fleurie Headdress (La fleurieヘッドドレス)
Price: 7,020 yen
Colours: same as above

>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/656/pid/10638/
Item#: B43HA982
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Reservation date: Friday, July 26th 12:00 JST to Monday, July 29th 12:00 JST

>> No.10226371

Ok what's up with Lolibrary? Last time I asked here people just got super pissed for some reason. No new items are getting uploaded to the site, still no shoe section, lots of old listings have wrong images etc. As someone who has even donated money to the site I'd like to know if it will ever get up to date and if they're still even working on it? Has there been any news?

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Le Palais de Bijoux Brillant JSK (Le Palais de bijoux brillantジャンパースカート)
Price: 70,200 yen (incl. tax)
Colours:
>Pink
>Lavender
>Black

(no measurements were given)

>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/645/pid/10594
Item#: B43JS237
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Le Palais de Bijoux Brillant Blouse (Le Palais de bijoux brillantブラウス)
Price: 22,464 yen (incl. tax)
Colours:
>Off white
>Light ivory
>Black

(no measurements were given)

Materials:
>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/645/pid/10593
Item#: B43BL438
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Le Palais de Bijoux Brillant Headdress (Le Palais de bijoux brillantヘッドドレス)
Price: 10,260 yen (incl. tax)
Colours:
>Pink
>Lavender
>Black

>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/645/pid/10592
Item#: B43HA983
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Le Palais de Bijoux Brillant Ribbon Comb (Le Palais de bijoux brillantリボンコーム)
Price: 4,104 yen (incl. tax)
Colours:
>Off white
>Black

>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/645/pid/10591
Item#: B43HA985
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Reservation date: Friday, July 26th 12:00 JST to Monday, July 29th 12:00 JST

>> No.10226375

>>10226303
Honestly I prefer this because I hate getting loads of emails for every purchase.

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>>10226371
As far as I know, the dev team is doing an overhaul of the way the pictures and data are stored. Earlier this month, one of the devs mentioned that shoes were on their way. Submission of new releases was halted a while back. They're still working on it.

In the meantime, I've been making release posts on /cgl/ with photos and measurements for the latest releases. You can use any one of the /cgl/ archives to search for items, as long as you have the name of the release or the item number. Every link on these posts has been archived on the Wayback Machine in case you need more of the stock photos. Unfortunately I'm ony one person, so I miss a lot of releases, especially for sweet brands. I'm also going to get busy again next month and won't be able to keep up as much. So if you have some time to spare, please do help out! It'll likely make updating Lolibrary in the future easier as well.

>> No.10226406

>>10226105
A personal blog, as a "blog that she personally writes on about herself". Last time I checked that was the ongoing definition for "personal blog".

>>10226111
>So what does your friend think? Is she butthurt about it?
No, she was fine and a bit honoured about it. They didn't display her name or anything like that and used her as an example. I'm guessing they just went to Pinterest and searched for pics related to Lolita fashion.

>> No.10226418

>>10225936
Fuck these are gorgeous, VM is back baybeee

>> No.10226420

>>10226303
I agree. There's no way to prove the invoice is from them especially when they write the bare minimum on it. I also like to ask about shipping options like tracking or insurance and then they have to cancel it and reinvoice. I also find it very annoying and rude.

>> No.10226425

>>10226299
Did u not watch the beelita video? The mods did jack shit during the situation, and when lor brought it up later people were mad at HER.

>> No.10226445

>>10226377
Sadly the items I'm looking for right now are stock photos of Angelic Pretty accessories so I doubt they'd be archived in the threads. I'm pretty bad at keeping up to date with releases myself, these are just things I know exist because I saw sales listings for them.

>> No.10226447

>>10225632
As a daily lolita, that honestly sounds like a nightmare. Trying to become an efamous lolita is just a dumpster fire idea. No one hates lolitas like other lolitas. That's why we have trash content. Even the thick skin one has to normally have to wear the fashion regularly doesn't cut it for that.

>> No.10226449

>>10226357
I hope you never use eBay because communication is part of their ratings as well but it's definitely not the convention to message a buyer when they purchase something.

>> No.10226453

How do you like this Melty Ribbon Chocolate rerelease? :D

>> No.10226455

>>10226453
Too bad I can’t screenshot the whole page, they do a lot of cool stuff tho.

>> No.10226475

>>10226445
Lolita Updates keeps pretty good track of AP. You might want to try looking there.

>> No.10226477

>>10226453
What?

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>>10226477
http://www.angelicpretty.com/shopnews/2019gb07.html

>> No.10226488
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10226488

YEAH!! YEAH!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!!

>> No.10226490

>>10226453
In fact, it actually is MRC, but there’s no UBER CUT, heh.

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>>10226481
>not the round collar jsk
Nailed it, AP. Though the mint colorway looks nice.

>> No.10226493

>>10225549
I have no hope for them, browsing through the comments and I see people trying to be genuinely helpful and getting the response “I’ll just thrift it lol” from normies. I don’t want an influx of newbies in our fashion.

>> No.10226498

>>10226453
kinda sad bc no round collar jsk but probably going to buy fantastic dolly >>10226488

>> No.10226501

>>10226488
Is the material, sizing and design going to be the same as the first release?

>> No.10226502

>>10226481
Stupid question, how do I buy from this?

>> No.10226514

>>10226502
>>>>10221060

>> No.10226534

>>10226501
Probably same as Honey Cake

>> No.10226560

>>10226534
NAYRT but I was not ever interested in Honey Cake, but what are the 2 fabrics? It's interesting that they change the fabric, is the re-release a cheaper fabric? Was there a price difference in original release price and re-release price to reflect the fabric or did the price just rise and they used cheaper fabric?

>> No.10226565

>>10226371
I saw some of the mods about a week ago and they basically said they're improving the security of the site but updating will take a while as there's over a million images to upload. They have got all the data archived so it's mostly just a matter of uploading it all.

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>>10226488
HOLY SHIT

>> No.10226583

>>10226565
How long do you suppose we should wait before just jumping ship and making a new reference site? The irony of it all is that the current developer was getting ready to just that, make her own independent reference site, when she contacted the current library people at the time and they let her take it over, clog it up with a bunch of fancy code that's very expensive to maintain and that few people are skilled to run. It didn't even need that and its an unnecessary developer flex, which is fine as long as you have someone who will actually run it instead of setting up the new system and then basically abandoning it, leaving it basically unusable by most devs.

Using Kubernetes architecture (and all the virtual machine space and resources it gobbles) for lolibrary is the equal of saying you need a grand piano to play chopsticks.
That is also why it's now expensive to run and it didn't used to be.

Plus still no updates.
Despite continued funding.
And it's now a nonprofit.
Nope.jpg

>> No.10226643

>>10226583
I love your piano analogy
10/10

>> No.10226761

>>10226583
if they’re not gonna do it.. cmon.. ill help out too.. it’s fucking been years...
I’m fuckin tired of waiting..

>> No.10226773

>>10226761
We would likely have to start from scratch with a new site, new name and only the data from the archive/wayback machine. For a while it might be even less useful than the current lolibrary is because they hold all its archives privately now as a non-profit corporation (even though the initial idea is that all this info belongs to the community, not to whoever is running this Corp, we’ll call her Ms M) and are not likely to just turn it over to a new untried squad ‘because we say so’.

But it needs to be a simple site again, with an easy to fill out submission form, built and run on current easy to use web standards so that if or when shit goes sideways again, someone else who is decently computer savvy in the community can easily step up and run it.
People cry ‘security’ but it’s possible to encode decent security without a megalithic virtual machine architecture sucking down several hundred dollars a month to run what is basically still a small site n a fancy cloud configuration. Did I mention expense also scales up with this current architecture as the site grows? Because it does. It’s a mess.

>> No.10226782

>>10226773
I might be remembering this wrong but at some point didn’t LM have this feature where any user could add missing info (it was it that they could suggest it?)

>> No.10226783

Any SS in the area of the laforet GB?

>> No.10226787

>>10226782
you mean lolibrary and not LM, right?

>> No.10226796

>>10226782
Lolibrary, not LM but yes. You are not wrong and that was part of the necessary features that let people contribute that is vital, the volunteer entries let everyone do this via submissions or to also make requests for additions. People used a form, submitted an entry or an update/correction to an entry and one of the admin group then checked it over and then added it. In the sidebar there was a progress tracker so you could see the admins screen names, the dates and the topic of what has been worked on most recently. Accountability and the ability for any community member to contribute. That’s why people are upset. Nothing is getting updated, there’s no ability for anyone to contribute anymore despite endless requests and endless promises that ‘soon’ and ‘its coming’, and sever tone is mad that they have tied up the whole site in limbo yet are still requesting/accepting donations to run the site as is with the majority of everything broken. If this tiny broken site costs what it does, wtf will the bill be if they add all the info and make the site 10x as big? I’m estimating that the current site holds under 1/10 of what the old site did even and lacks most new entries for the last 3+ years? So to add all that, I am expecting the bill to be pretty big. We don’t know the stats either because the site owners also do not give clear and up to date status reports at all and never have.
The data they hold doesn’t belong to them exclusively as a corporation, it was never meant to be held privately, it’s a community resource. But I still doubt they would turn over their old site archive to be rebuilt. It’s probably just someone’s fat tax write-off at this point, that’s the only reason I can see to keep it up and incorporated but let it stay in such a fucked up state.

>> No.10226827

>>10226445
You could ask sucredoll in the lolibrary Discord. She keeps track of AP releases and saves everything.

>> No.10226829

Do you think being a daily lolita and a lifestyler is the same? How would you describe a lolita lifestyle?

>> No.10226832

>>10226787
>>10226796
Yeah I meant lolibrary, my mistake typing too fast
honestly idk why they even removed info from listings as well, prices and whatnot.
there have been plenty of people i have seen that have spoken up in the past who would be willing to help, even if there were a few dedicated users i can see it being very fruitful.
>>10226827
bless sucredolls. i remember when she started posting on tumblr.

>> No.10226836

>>10226796
Their github page is pretty active, I see commits from as recent as a couple hours ago. Yes, they probably overengineered some things or it wouldn't still be ongoing and yes they certainly could have chosen a tech stack that more people are into and gotten more contributors, but they are verifiably working on the back-end and fixing bugs. I don't know their hosting situation, but when they brought the new site up I remember someone from the project saying that it was cheaper than the old version because of search engine licensing or something.

>> No.10226837

>>10226829
My opinion - No. But they can be. A daily lolita is someone who wears lolita fashion on the daily (or as close as they can, but daily is daily right?) but a daily lolita may not do any of the things associated with a lolita lifestyle. Lolita Lifestyle means wearing lolita fashion as much as possible plus doing things people associate with a more elegant lifestyle, which things these are also varies widely from opinion to opinion. Some of these things might include sewing, tea drinking, baking, homemaking, reading literature, listening to classical music, playing an instrument, studying and practicing any variety of historical manners and customs, being very girly, going go tea etc.

>> No.10226840

>>10225888
You have the option of buying the dress, jsk, then having it altered. Buy the largest size then having side panels sewn in. You can find the best matching fabric or even use the waist ties for side panels.

>> No.10226841

>>10225888
For length...you can buy extending petticoats.

>> No.10226845

>>10226836
They have been saying this same thing for months which has turned into over a year now, with little to no visible progress or improvement to the front end, and also damn few entries. Saying a Kubernetes VM and cloud based containers are cheaper than just slapping the simple site onto a secure server is just ignorant. This is not a mission critical app that requires this kind of over-designing. This website doesn't need search engine licensing, Google based in-site search capability is free. It's easy to build HTML search into the CSS. There are several simple and good ways. The facts that lolibrary people are supposedly telling don't correlate and I'm not even a big wig web dev to be asking these questions, but I know people who are so I asked them, showed them the old site via wayback and the new site as it stands as well as the GitHub and they say this is bs.

Azure and Kubernetes is a great web design strategy for Pinterest, for the large and complex sites that use it well, actually need it and most importantly can afford it as it scales up (and up and up), but what lolibrary has done is to build an expensive cathedral for what is basically just a storefront sized extended family congregation. Then abandon it for a while, then make some kind of corporation, and now continue to say ’soon, my pretties, very soon’. With no visible changes or improvements to it's intended function.

>> No.10226862

>>10226845
I'm an embedded dev so it's a bit out of my wheelhouse, but it does seem excessive for purpose. Not putting the actual data on a public repo somewhere is a little dodgy and I doubt their docker images contain populated databases. But they do seem to be working on it. And a fancy site will look good on their CVs.

>> No.10226863

>>10226773
Well Lolibrary did start "from scratch" and replaced Hellolace so it's not impossible.

>> No.10226866
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10226866

>>10226840
>>10226841
This is a dude and a pretty rude one at that, please don't encourage him? Not to mention that this info is easily available in several pages for plus sized lolitas on the web. He needs a Google to be his friend. Pic related.
Send people like this to the stupid question thread or give them a lmgtfy link. This shit needs to stop clogging the general and we all need to quit letting it.

I'm not sure yet if I'm happy about Cinema Doll or suspicious on why there are all the AP re-releases for some reason.

>> No.10226867

>>10225936
>Finally, I can put together a proper Claude Frollo coord
These are all gorgeous, I’m loving the pinkish wine colorway!

>> No.10226869

>>10226863
I'm not saying it's impossible at all, just that something to consider is that the general community is fickle, already short on patience from the delay and even less functionality for a while on a new site (because I'd fully expect current library people to flounce and remove theirs if we start a new site and it is supported) might be stressful for the people starting a new site.

>> No.10226874

>>10226862
I'm wondering if the corp tax break for one and the fancy site on CV for the other might be the reason this project looks fine on paper and only functions well enough as a window dressing site example for someone outside the community to say ’what a swell website, and look, it's supported well by its Patreon too, what a good thing this is.’ when in reality it has been largely useless to the community it is supposed to serve, (who are faithfully paying for it too) for over a year now aside from the minimal existing entires.

>> No.10226885

>>10226493
Someone needs go do a video ’ letter to the 2019 new Lolitas...’, and honestly go over the major pitfalls like Wish, thrifted lolifying, replicas, lolita at heart, etc. And not sugar coat it like fucking whiny Lor, meaning without all the fake try-hard bullshit of her desperately trying to ’stay lovely’.
Where is the older, kind of bitchy aunty of lolita to do these kind of lolita PSA videos, no fucks given? That's a lolita type I'd be down to genuinely watch.

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>>10226481
>No MRC beret

>> No.10226895

>>10226885
I could see Tyler doing that

>> No.10226900

>>10226895
She's not a bitchy aunty though, she's more of a snide mallgoth type. We need someone who will sit down in a beautifully-upholstered chair with a literal cup of tea in a gold-edged teacup and dish it out like Dolores Umbridge.

>> No.10226903

>>10226900
The time will come, I'm really hoping for it, and some of us ARE getting older, absolutely staying in the fashion for the long haul, and running out of fucks. In the most polite of ways, of course.

>> No.10226907

>>10226900
My Noritake has a platinum rim my dear, not garish gold. Please do not undersell the quiet but potent importance of More.

>> No.10226932

>>10225143
>fifty year old transvestite
You say that like it's not goals to be decked out in Moitie at age 50.

>> No.10226964
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>>10226900
>>10226885
>bitchy aunty
>no fucks given
This is my vibe and my tea cups are rimmed in platinum.

>> No.10226969

>>10226964 >>10226907

Let's make this happen! I've got the furniture and lack of fucks given but sadly not the classy teacups (I have a dreadful predilection for novelty teacups), but would be happy to help with the script or editing. Imagine the glory of a concordance of bitchy lolita aunties.

>> No.10226970

>>10226964
Probably my long lost sister I never had. I approve of both the pin and the sentiments.

>> No.10227026

>>10226964
Love the sentiment but the grammar is off. Should be “Here lie all the fucks I give”
I don’t think I could wear a pin like that, it would drive me bonkers

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New cat print by meta, I have feeling its going to be incredibly popular

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>>10227048
It comes in 2 different cuts and 3 colourways, being released on the 26th

>> No.10227095

>>10227026
You wouldnt wear it because it's a lie for you, you're giving fucks about perfect grammar.

>> No.10227106

>>10227026
I think it's not supposed to be grammatically correct, but your typical "here lies *insert name here*". It would be less funny if they went out of their way to change the common phrase for correct grammar desu.

>>10227095
^This

>> No.10227112

>>10227048
>>10227051
Meta really outdid themselves this time

>> No.10227114

>>10226481
Update is up!
No accessories tho. I'm quite upset to be honest.

>> No.10227115

>>10227114
too bad they're gonna be even harder to get now
see. HC socks/bracelet

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10227116

>>10226970
>>10226969
Would this loveseat suffice? I have an eye getting it when I move into my new house in a few months and have more room. This idea makes me picture the character of Violet Crawley, the Dowager Countess of Grantham from Downton Abbey

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10227117

is wunderwelt taking >1 month to ship out anyone else's order or is it just me

>> No.10227118
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I wish lolibrary had functioned better but it has not.
So I did a little digging beyond what has already been posted.
Some stats:
- There have been no 2019 entries that I can find. Pic related.
- The total number of entries of everything
contained in the entire current library is only 51,740.
- only 558 Entries are tagged 2018
- In 2018 monthly hosting fees rose, $170-290 mostly due to the choices Amelia made in their rebuild. Cost source: public post on their Patreon.
- they privately hold the old library database which was always intended to be public, accessible and open source for community contribution. Patreon contributions seem to cover operating costs, but their goal is 1,000/month despite year- long neglect and severely limited function.
- As of today, there has been no way for the community at large to submit or contribute to the library for well over a year despite assurances of ’soon,, we are working in it’.
- Lolibrary has been made into a privately held nonprofit LLC which implies ownership of the database as a private concern, not a public resources it was intended to be. There wasn't any transparency regarding this either.
Source: https://donorbox.org/lolibrary

Why are we as a community still supporting this project? At this point, I'd probably have more respect for someone coming in and making an actual small business for-profit endeavour out of it as a brand new project and having a community database that actually functions. But the community is so hateful and fickle that I'm not sure it would be supported.

>> No.10227120

>>10227116
Yep, very nice. I'm down for a concordance (or is it coven?) of very bitchy Aunty Lolita characters doing a project. Serving amazing teas for drinking, spilling tea on community issues with some straight talk, ( no saccharine ’lovely-ness’ please), but plenty of elegance.

In fact, my first request is that the word ’Lovely’ be officially banned from the project’s vocabulary.

>> No.10227122

>>10227117
Yeah, last week I bought some things and these still haven't shipped out.

>> No.10227127

>>10226481
Didn't get princess rococo when they were selling it for 30000¥, and thought that would be my last chance to buy it
Got it when they're selling it for 10000¥
Awwww yeah, good feels

>> No.10227131

>>10226501
They say „The fabric, color and length are different from the products sold before.“ when I use google translate.

>> No.10227134

>>10227131
>also, estimated delivery in april 2020
Wtf AP

>> No.10227135

>>10227118
It frustrates me that Lolibrary was the reason Hellolace quit and now we have no working database since they can't get their shit together.

>> No.10227136

>>10227134
Spotted the newfag

>> No.10227146

>>10227135
I heard they had website problems but I also believe it was largely due to a fickle community. People did not support hello lace as much. We don't need two competing incomplete databases, we need one functional one.

But if I started a brand new lolita database today, working backwards by requests and calling for volunteer submissions, there's no guarantee of any kind of support and no one wants to do a bunch of unpaid work that doesn't even get used in the end.

>> No.10227151

I'd like to start a database of reviews of Lolita Pieces, just linking to blogposts or videos, for example.

I started doing it on a spreadsheet for a while, but now I'm considering having an actual place to post these.

Would anyone have a suggestion? Maybe a Pinterest account, with brands sorted by folders?

>> No.10227163

>>10227151
Why not just a simple blog for it? No need for it to be complex beyond your ability to easily and quickly update and run it yourself, make sense?
Alphabetized by brand, then link things by type of garment, motif, substyle and year as the search tags.

I'd be interested to reference it if I could sort by brand and year most of all. I only wear certain brands so the rest are noise to me and I most often want to quickly reference the year something was released or reviewed.

>> No.10227168

>>10227136
Newfag? Why? Because these releases take longer and longer?
APs first MTOs were 6 months, then 7 months were considered „very long“. That’s 9 months now, longest MTO they ever had. And you can easily add another month for their usual delays.

>> No.10227171

>>10227163
Oh, that's a surprisingly simple idea that I hadn't considered before. Thanks, anon. I'll consider sorting the reviews I already have this way.

>> No.10227172

>>10227118
>The total number of entries of everything contained in the entire current library is only 51,740.
>only
Anon, are you aware how painful it is to list that many entries?
t. someone who plays around with a wikia version

>Why are we as a community still supporting this project?
Because there's nothing else and they did a huge favor for the community in the past. And there's still someone funding what doesn't get covered by patreonbux, paying it out of their own pocket.
Instead of (rightfully) complaining, code your own website or find alternatives.

>> No.10227173

>>10227135
>It frustrates me that Lolibrary was the reason Hellolace quit
Stop spreading misinfo dumb newfag.

>> No.10227175

>>10227146
Hellolace closed down because their website got hacked over and over again. It had nothing to do with the community, barely anyone complained about hellolace.

>> No.10227184

>>10226303
I get annoyed when the seller messages me. I already clicked buy and accepted the terms of sale. My address is already on my LM and my PayPal. Unless they're telling me it's $30 to ship a blouse domestically or saying they won't be able to ship it for 2 weeks, I don't need to hear about it. I need an invoice and a tracking number, that's it.

>> No.10227187

>>10227168
>longest MTO they ever had

No it’s not newfag. Lurkmoar

>> No.10227188

>>10227184
I always message the buyer to double check the shipping address. It already happened twice that PayPal showed me an incomplete address, like forgetting the last name or number of the house. I’m sick of the disaster that comes with it, even if I have to re-fund and re-send an invoice in this case.

>> No.10227190

>>10227187
Then tell me which one took longer than 9 months.

>> No.10227197 [DELETED] 

>>10227190
I don’t spoonfeed newfags, you’re welcome to use the archive though. But I bet you don’t even know how to use it.

>> No.10227201

>>10227120
So like "the view" but with lolitas? I didn't know I needed this.

This isn't really in line with what you guys want, but imagine the scenario of fancy cups and settings with four or five very different lolita youtubers/figures sitting and spilling tea. Lor, Tyler, victorianme, that one french chick, hello batty, fanny, etc. And they cover an array of different topics in one video.

>> No.10227208

>>10227120
>’Lovely’ be officially banned from the project’s vocabulary.
Seconded without qualms. It is acceptable to dress in a cookie-cutter way if one must, but affecting a cookie-cutter personality is unsettling to one's digestive system.

>>10227116
Stunning! I have a slightly similar one with a different color of upholstery. My cats and I love it.

I believe there are three of us at this point?

>>10227201
Bugger that for a lark, sounds like a convention panel. Can you imagine how fake nice they would all be? With Tyler being fake mean at intervals.

>> No.10227210

>>10227190
Rhymes with skittish chair

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10227212

These pictures are bigger than original stock photos which makes me think those are retaken with newer things. Fabric looks pretty drape-y so...

>> No.10227214

>>10227190
One of the MTO holy lantern releases took like a whole fucking year

>> No.10227215

>>10227212
That wrinkle in the bottom of skirt gives some hope. I guess fully poly fabric wouldn’t have those.

>> No.10227216

>>10227212
Hmm, that doesn't look like the heavy cotton they used for the original. Mine doesn't get wrinkles in it like that.

>> No.10227218

>>10227216
Nevermind I'm imagining things, I'm pretty sure that is the same old stock photo

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>>10227212
>>10227218
It's higher res and cropped out, and higher contrast, but it's the same photo

>> No.10227233

>>10227208
Yes, I believe 3. I think it needs to be made clear from the start that while we may indeed be bitchy ladies of a certain age, this is an entertainment project and we will be exaggerating certain traits...it is never good to believe one’s own press too much and of course haters will hate.

>> No.10227242

>>10226891
It's the Melty Royal instead of Melty Ribbon jsk so who cares.

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>>10227233
Oh exaggerating certain traits is not what I meant by "affecting a cookie-cutter personality" but yes, agreed.

>> No.10227245

>>10226863
It didn't start from scratch, it got all the data and images from hellolace. Something they're not giving us now.

>> No.10227246

Tbh I haven't used lolibrary in a long time. I just use pinterest and tumblr if I need stock photos.

>> No.10227248

>>10227172
>they did a huge favor for the community in the past.
Isn't it run by someone else now?

>> No.10227257

>>10227248
Yes. The original person who started the lolibrary project died in a car accident in 2013. RIP Amy (amethystcitrine)

>> No.10227262

>>10227131
I just hope the sizing has changed a little. Busty lolitas love this print too, AP

>> No.10227353

My lacemarket sales have been steady but kind of slow. In your experience does posting on FB sales groups help at all? If yes are there any particular ones you find most effective for sales? I'm an eurofag for reference

>> No.10227356

>>10227353
The sales group for your country and going to swap meets. It might also help to look at recent sold listings on lacemarket to get an idea of what people are buying.

>> No.10227369

>>10227248
it's not like they took over and immediately fucked up anon

>> No.10227372

>>10225902
I don't see it but here is their online shop to follow. http://shop.abilletage.com/

>> No.10227374

>>10227262
The jsk bust lists 98cm on original, that’s plenty big!

>> No.10227375

>>10227369
They took over and basically have done very little that is visible at all except set up onion funnels. And the most popular page in the site is the 404 page. Not good.

>> No.10227376

>>10227375
D o n a t i o n funnels
Darn onions! Lol

>> No.10227380

I mean the dev has clearly been active recently, just because there's no visible changes doesn't mean stuff isn't being done.

https://github.com/lolibrary/lolibrary

I mean people are welcome to try and make their own site but I'm curious how many are willing to put the time, effort and money to keep it going more than a few months?

>> No.10227392

>>10227353
Summer is always a slow time.

>> No.10227397

>>10227380
There has been nothing visible done to add any item entries to the library in 2019 at all, or anything visible happening on the site for a solid year, period. No one gives 2 shits about Githib tinkering if the site DOES NOT FUNCTION CORRECTLY!
Also anyone wanting to help, did you happen to read the requirements? And no option at all for community members to submit actual entries. Seems the dev is just a code warrior behind the scenes tinkering with shit endlessly and no front end productivity at all. No one will be happy with that.

And yes, I'm looking into alternatives, ones that look and feel more user and community friendly and are stupid cheaper to run. It's supposed to be a USEFUL fashion hobby website, not a secure government cloud deployment.
Keyword useful.

>> No.10227400

>>10227380
There are releases from two fucking years ago from brands like AP that aren’t up. It’s been 8 months and no releases from this year added. Barely any from 2018. It’s inexcusable at this point. Hell, it was inexcusable 8 months ago. They took our money and there’s literally nothing to show for the majority of a year for it.

>> No.10227439

>>10225888
>I'm just large
I hate men like you. Can you just stop posting? It's not meant for troons and male measurements. Nothing in lolita will ever fit you. There is legitimate tall and larger sized lolita who need the advice and you are not one of them.

>> No.10227444

>>10226279
You have no idea how much real life communities shit talk troons. We'll organize entire private meets just to get rid of these fucking scrots and we'll laugh at them.

>> No.10227489
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Hey AP, wtf is this?

>> No.10227491

>>10227489
They’re rereleasing that cut. They use it a lot for space/star prints. Lurk moar.

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>>10227489

>> No.10227495

>>10227489
I like it. Better than a sack dress.

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>>10227491
Do you not see that unevenly sewn lace?

>> No.10227504

>>10227495
AP’s stock photos have always been lackluster newfag

>> No.10227508

>>10227504
Meant for >>10227500

>> No.10227619

>>10227493
I know you're censoring the seam but it makes the bow look extra long

>> No.10227621

>>10226969
>>10226900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR3b8rTsl6w
This chick is kinda no fucks given straightforward

>> No.10227662

>>10227621
I really like her videos. Refreshing!

>> No.10227689

>>10227621
People who respond to these videos with "as an ageplayer myself..." really fucking miss the point

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>>10227693

>> No.10227829

Angelic Pretty is taking further reservations for Honey Cake for three days from 7/26. This is only the physical stores in Japan and the Japanese webstore: https://angelicpretty-onlineshop.com/whats-new/topics/2612234/

Just when I was beginning to regret deciding not to reserve this, they pull me back in

>> No.10227949

>>10227696
I want this as a skirt...

>> No.10227957

New thread >>10227956