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Where can you find lolita and general alt j-fash in Tokyo? Going to Japan soon and any suggestions would be appreciated

>> No.10293701

>>10293700
I should mention I tried Tokyofashion but could only pull dead links
I have a fair few from a previous thread like this and some of the obvious ones like Shibuya109 and down Takeshita street

>> No.10293709

>>10293700
Family Mart

>> No.10293735

>>10293700
If I remember correctly, Harajuku and Cat Avenue, both found when walking between shinjuku and shibuya, has what you’re looking for

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>> No.10293763

>>10293700
Ginza is the cheapest place to find lolita and alt j-fashion!

>> No.10293835

>>10293700
Jusco

>> No.10293860

If u go to roppongi some foreigners who work there will invite you to secret brand sales.

>> No.10293864

Konbini

>> No.10293878

>>10293860
Seconing this. There are also nice nigerian foreigners in Shinjuku and Harajuku that will show you the best j-fashion sales the areas have to offer. Jealous people banned from these sales will tell you not to talk to or follow them. Follow them no matter what anyone tells you!

>> No.10293997

>>10293860
>>10293878
epic

>> No.10294143

>>10293700
Why is everyone trolling this poster and not spoonfeeding where the real stores are? They're literally in japan that's better than most of us would ever do, is it just jealousy?

>> No.10294147

>>10294143
Because everyone knows these shops already if they're actually into j-fashion and they're not hard to google.

>> No.10294155

>>10294143
None is trolling? You seem jealous your not going to Japan like OP and want them to miss all the good stuff.

>> No.10294544

>>10294143
Ah... sadly, it's because most the stores aren't in Tokyo anymore. There use to be a slew of stores in Tokyo, but most no longer exist as of this year because of the Olympics. Many could no longer afford the increased rent since the areas where the fashion stores use to exist were selected to host stadiums. I feel... is it Osaka where most the fashion moved to? (I know someone said in a previous thread where the best city for shopping is.) It's really goddamn sad, but Harajuku is no longer the place for shopping. It's now all shit to cater to rich foreigners.

>> No.10294548

>>10294143
And that's why you see 'trolling'. No one is really trolling OP. They just sadly can't give them an answer anymore because gentrification. We can only jest.

>> No.10294551 [DELETED] 

But to give OP an honest answer. Sure, check out Listen Flavor & whatever, but your best bet is to just take advantage of the fact you're actually in Japan, and have stuff shipped from the websites to your hotel without having to pay that ungodly international shipping price. I really wish I knew more of the details, but it's primarily cash based, and many shops offer what's called "pay on delivery" which is exactly what it sounds like. Ttrinity.jp being an example of one that'll let you use pay on delivery. You can also, using that site as an example, pay for things at any convenience store. You get the equivalent of a stub, and then you go to, say, 7-11, and pay for it there. Shipping within Japan is cheap and effective.

>> No.10294554

But to give OP an honest answer. Sure, check out Listen Flavor & whatever, but your best bet is to just take advantage of the fact you're actually in Japan, and have stuff shipped from the websites to your hotel without having to pay that ungodly international shipping price. I really wish I knew more of the details, but it's primarily cash based, and many shops offer what's called "pay on delivery" which is exactly what it sounds like. Ttrinity.jp is an example of one that'll let you pay for things at any convenience store. You get the equivalent of a stub, and then you go to, say, 7-11, and pay for it there. Shipping within Japan is cheap and effective.

>> No.10294556

>>10294554
Just be sure if you do the online thing to be really stringent about measurements. Going with Ttrinity again, I've got a shirt that's a men's M from the site. It's the equivalent of a youth S in the U.S. so just watch out for the fact their sizes are really different from most Western sizing so you don't get clothing you can't wear. Their sizing is more like the sizing you find in designer wear here.

>> No.10294568

>>10293709
Lawson's JSKs are way better.

>> No.10294569

>>10294544
Stay out of Osaka there is nothing you would like there. Fukuoka is the new destination for jfash

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>>10293835
Based

>> No.10294668

>>10293700
OK let me give the obvious answer: Laforet

>> No.10294798

>>10294569
Not sure if trolling but there is a whole remake and indie brand street in Kita-ku, Osaka, including the famous fairy kei artist collab store Tenten (you get Fancy Surprise and all that shit there).

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>>10293700
Harajuku, sometimes ginza, Asakusabashi often has some cosplay events and shops that sell. Ginza is expensive but usally has good quality lolita stuff. Akihabara is there and has stuff if you know where to look, but only assume you'll find the mainstream/popular cosplays on sale

>>10294143
The shit you get in Japan won't fit non asian/japanese body types and often requires a good amount of work to fix up for anyone with a western frame to wear. You are quite literally better ordering off aliexpress to save money and get nearly the same exact shit.

Most places do 0 refunds for foreigners, or will not sell you if they do not believe it fits you charging you a deal bit more for fixing it. Why would you want to sell something to someone who could get mad, leave bad reviews, and turn others away?

There are a good number of cosplay shops in akihabara, though most 4chan people I've met never seem to know how to read the signage or speak japanese and stay on ground level shops.
Additionally, cosplay is a bit different in Japan than in the US. It's always funny when some US friends come to a convention with me from the US and are shocked at how it's handled/perceived. Most my aliexpress or esty goods are about on par for what most people wear, photoshop for any picture is often required before posting.

>>10294569
Fukuoka is hot garbage for k-pop fans, Osaka still has festivals where the shut down Den Den town to host cosplay events and smaller gatherings. Fukuoka sucks because the weather in spring/summer/fall can go from decent to pouring rain in a heartbeat and ruin an event.

>> No.10295479

>>10295474
What are you talking about? I've never had an issue. Just check the dang measurements. I've never personally had an issue with anything I've ever bought, and I'm a white American.

>> No.10295481

>>10295479
In Japan? what shops? I've had a few that wouldn't sell to my friends who were also US/EU because the process without me translating was too complex. Talking about dresses and shit specifically, not just cosplay materials like bows, wigs, etc that often can be one size fits all.

>> No.10295510

>>10295481
Sure, I can imagine then not selling if there's a language barrier, but that's any country. At the same time, it's rude to ask a clerk for help & expect them to speak English. It sounds like your friends were rude as hell pestering store clerks in a non-native language. Doing a transaction isn't an issue, especially online. I'm talking about shirts, dresses, and skirts. As long as you check the measurements, it'll fit? I don't do cosplay. Just check the measurements.

>> No.10295514

>>10295474
What I'm trying to tell you is being short and tiny isn't unique to Asia.

>> No.10295517

>>10295510
>At the same time, it's rude to ask a clerk for help & expect them to speak English
Eh, not really in Japan as shit's in english and japanese most places in Tokyo. I'm asking you what shops because most I know don't service foreign customers all that much unless it's a prepackaged deal/onesize fits all like at the COSPLA chain of stores. Most people will speak some form of English but doing specific customizations/fixes is generally out of the question without heavy use of google translate or just knowing what to ask for.

There is slightly more that goes in when buying cosplay in Japan than like shit off aliexpress with X/Y/Z measurements. So I asked what store you shop at in tokyo that does it since I'd direct some friends there who just moved and suck at japanese.

>Doing a transaction isn't an issue, especially online
I'm talking about in person, since I am there most the year I often have to get stuff there last minute and what not if I have free time for comic1, reitaisai, comiket, WCF, Festia, or what not. Obviously online you just give the M or F option, and frame measurements. Though if you know any specifc places that I may not outside the normal Shibuya, harajuku, Nakano, and tailor shops of Asakusa I'd be really interested.

>>10295514
I never said it was, I was stating what MOST shops in Tokyo will do in turning away foreigners as the measurements are often different for most. Not that it will be regardless, never implied that, just that dealing with more than a few pin ups and such is. I'm going on national averages, obviously everyone is different.

>> No.10295524

>>10295517
I would not ever expect to go to a foreign country and have them alter or customize a piece of clothing for me. That... yeah, that's not going to work. I figured OP was talking about just plain old fashion, and not something like a custom-tailored costume. Please, don't be so pessimistic about us Westerners, especially U.S. We do have morbidly obese people here, and that makes our national average really skewed. Take for example the idea the average American woman weighs 166 lbs. That's so not true. You have two things in the U.S., you have women in your 90-120 pound range. The rest are 250-300 pounds, sometimes larger. I have a friend with a mother who weighs 500+. That really skews people's perception of what we look like, and that's where you get this 166 pound average. There's actually not a bunch of 166 pound women walking around. There's normal sized women... then there's really, really big women.

If anon is nice, and doesn't just spew off to them in fluent English a million miles an hour expecting them to tailor every garment to their needs, they'll have a perfectly fine time shopping in Japan. Even knowing a little bit of Japanese so they can just tell you what's in your measurement range will go a long way just by showing you tried. I could see someone too large being turned away, but that's not really rudeness, that's just being honest that 'nothing will fit'.

>> No.10295525 [DELETED] 

>>10295517
Also, again, I don't cosplay so any shop I've bought clothing from is like Listen Flavor, T-Trinity, or sold through Village Vanguard. Lots of other people have a perfectly fine time at Closet Child or at the brand name stores themselves buying lolita clothing. Most aren't customizing their clothing to make it fit either. Please, don't make it sound like a lost cause. Your friends are possibly being ruder then they let on when they're not in your company, or maybe they're just trying to buy tailor-made, I don't know. I don't think OP is asking about tailor-made.

>> No.10295527 [DELETED] 

>>10295517
There's also been a couple small one-off shops I've purchased from online too, and they were really nice. I've just never had a bad experience buying anything from Japan regarding service, communication, or sizing. I don't think OP is talking about cosplay. OP is talking about day-to-day fashion.

>> No.10295528

>>10295524
>I would not ever expect to go to a foreign country and have them alter or customize a piece of clothing for me.

I know which is why in my post you first replied to makes no sense, I was not disagreeing

>US people
Yeah okay, not sure why you had to state all that about the US? Besides Japan gets 30million visitors per year it's not like people don't know American sizes or anything. I am stating that a very small percentage would even fit most premade stuff regardless. Most stuff comes from china that needs to be refitted even for people living in japan, unless they get the actual aliexpress stuff sold in stores. Most people also need to wait 1 week or so minimum for anything custom made+fixing if required, often people are not going to stay in tokyo that long or be willing to race back over for remeasures, it would become quite cost ineffective which is why most people who go to cons in Japan often buy premade stuff. It's quite odd that in America people look down on buying premade things, never understood that.

>If anon is nice, and doesn't just spew off to them in fluent English a million miles an hour expecting them to tailor every garment to their needs, they'll have a perfectly fine time shopping in Japan.
I don't think you understand some places will just not serve foreigners for whatever reason, either not enough english knowledge, they do not think they will be in town long enough, or they do not want to accomidate them for possibly bad review. You can speak perfect japanese in many places and still be turned away for being non native.

> I could see someone too large being turned away, but that's not really rudeness, that's just being honest that 'nothing will fit'.
I never said they were trying to be rude, I said they will simply not serve you as it may not be worth their time or they are worried they might improperly serve you. Where are you getting rudeness from? Have you traveled much in Japan?

>> No.10295529

>>10295517
>>10295517
Also, again, I don't cosplay so any shop I've bought clothing from is like Listen Flavor, T-Trinity, or sold through Village Vanguard. Lots of other people have a perfectly fine time at Closet Child or at the brand name stores themselves buying lolita clothing. Most aren't customizing their clothing to make it fit either. Please, don't make it sound like a lost cause. Your friends are possibly being ruder then they let on when they're not in your company, or maybe they're just trying to buy tailor-made, I don't know. I don't think OP is asking about tailor-made. There's also been a couple small one-off shops I've purchased from online too, and they were really nice. I've just never had a bad experience buying anything from Japan regarding service, communication, or sizing. I know many who have had a great experience shopping at department stores & malls in Shibuya and Ginza. I don't think OP is talking about cosplay. OP is talking about day-to-day fashion.

>> No.10295530

>>10295525
>Also, again, I don't cosplay

I don't understand? I never said that in Tokyo or japan you can not get help, I said that there were many places that will often not serve people in the store for things too far outside the normal tweaking to make something fit should it be a full cosplay. No shop will stop you as a foreigner from buying simple goods, however special requests such as getting a Remilia cosplay done or lolita outfit from the ground up will most likely be far more expensive as a foreigner overall in terms of cost, time, and effort.

I am not sure where you are going off on rudeness and such

>> No.10295531

>>10295528
Anon, where do you keep getting 'custom made' from. OP just wants to know where to find ready-to-wear fashion to wear day-to-day... particularly cute stuff or alternative punk/goth clothing, not a custom tailored costume of a character or a fancy evening dress.

>> No.10295532

>>10295529
>. I don't think OP is talking about cosplay. OP is talking about day-to-day fashion.
If OP is not buying or making things in Japan what is there to ask? Dress like you want, and just know not to use the subway during busy hours as wearing those things on trains packed is rude. No one cares how some foreigner dresses, you may just get stared at from time to time

>> No.10295534

>>10295530
We're talking about fashion, not cosplay. No one wants a custom lolita outfit from the ground up. No one is talking about a custom character costume. They just want to know where 'Baby, the Stars Shine Bright' & the ilk is located. They want to know some good department stores are. They want to know where some good clothing stores are. They are not looking for cosplay, tailors, or custom-designed clothing.

>> No.10295535

>>10295531
>Where can you find lolita and general alt j-fash in Tokyo?

This usually implies material or goods to be made, since no "scene" was asked it tends to imply store.

>> No.10295536

>>10295532
You really misunderstood what they were asking. No. They weren't asking where to get a custom-designed Rem outfit.

>> No.10295537

>>10295534
Lolita is costume play, thus cosplay anon.

>> No.10295539

>>10295535
Oh... hell, fuck no. No. When someone asks that, they're asking what your equivalent of a Hot Topic is. Yeah, they're seeking a store, but they're talking about off-the-shelf stuff; not custom designed. No one implies something 'to be made' when asking that. They're talking about clothes at the mall or a ready-to-wear boutique like Listen Flavor's stuff.

>> No.10295541 [DELETED] 

>>10295537
Most here don't consider it a costume outside people who don't wear it. Most who wear alternative fashion in the West wear it day-to-day or with fair regularity, not just to special events. It's our casual clothes & not special event clothing. Take for example goth... most people who wear it will wear it daily, and it's not a special costume. Same with punk clothing. That carries over to J-fashion when Westerners wear it.

>> No.10295543

>>10295537
Most here don't consider it a costume outside people who don't wear it. Most who wear alternative fashion in the West wear it day-to-day or with fair regularity, not just to special events. It's our casual clothes & not special event clothing. Take for example goth... most people who wear it will wear it daily, and it's not a special costume. Same with punk clothing. That carries over to J-fashion when Westerners wear it. I apologies for the cultural confusion, but, yeah, they aren't talking about 'costumes'...

>> No.10295545

>>10295537
I guess since most the West isn't concerned about 'face' and some things I've read about being concerning over there (like it being rude to wear it on a subway)... I could see where you get confused. In the West, it's not really considered 'rude' to wear alternative fashion just day-to-day in the public. A little eccentric, but it's in no way seen as rude over here. I apologize for that confusion. OP just wants to know where some shops selling cute shirts & punk/goth looking outfits off the shelf exist (like the Hot Topic example I used earlier).

>> No.10295549

>>10294554
Almost all websites accept Conbini payments, mercari as well, it is so convenient. Don’t do COD if you are in a hotel and don’t know if you will be home at the time of delivery, you would only be a giant pain in the ass for everyone.

>> No.10295550

>>10295549
This is more or less the information OP is looking for to actually use, yes. Again, really sorry about the confusion.

>> No.10295557

>>10295549
You could likely also give them suggestions on good stores where a teenager or young woman might shop for an outfit to wear on a date or out with friends so they don't get lost at shops catering to older women or business professionals. That'd likely have some of what they're looking for since 'alternative' isn't really the norm there.

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OP here, I probably should have clarified more but alt I meant alternative in the traditional sense
I'll take any suggestions though along those lines
I don't particularly know my genres well but I would probably say goth and punk is what I'm interested in with a focus on things that can be worn casually
Pic related on the left would be an example of what I'm looking for
Ty

>> No.10295757

>>10295709
Those two are wearing a lot of Glavil, I think you'll want to go to Shibuya 109 and hit up the few rokku gyaru stores left

>> No.10301349

>>10295757
Are there actual rokku gyaru brands left or is it dead? Last time I was in Japan was 2 years ago, and of the alt fash stores I saw there wasn't much rokku, plus there didn't seem to be many people wearing it, so I assumed it was dying...

>> No.10301357

>>10295709
Does hypercore have a store in Tokyo? That would be one.

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