Old School Thread: No Petti Edition

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[Anonymous No.10419907]

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[Anonymous No.10419962]

Where can I learn old school substyles?

[Anonymous No.10419978]

>>10419962
Gothic lolita bible

[Anonymous No.10419980]

Cracky chan

[Anonymous No.10419981]

>>10419980

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>>10419981

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>>10419981
>>10419982
Yikes

[Anonymous No.10420000]

[Anonymous No.10420007]

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[Anonymous No.10420010]

[Anonymous No.10420045]

>>10419955
Anyone have a sauce on these shoes? Been looking for a pair of mary janes with this style of platform.

[Anonymous No.10420050]

>>10420045
They're demonia dynamite 03

[Anonymous No.10420065]

>>10420050
Ah damn, they'd have been perfect without that star cutout. Thanks anyway, anon!

[Anonymous No.10420118]

>>10419955
This is my favorite coord of hers. peak casual proto

[Anonymous No.10420123]

>>10420118
Bait

[Anonymous No.10420125]

>>10420123
Get over your vendetta, anon. it's a cute coord

[Anonymous No.10420131]

>>10419981
>>10419982
what

[Anonymous No.10420151]

Lolibrary lists black colorway for Back Ribbon OP, are there any images of it online?

[Anonymous No.10420163]

>>10420125
>casual proto
Go back to your discord.

[Anonymous No.10420205]

>>10419907
Those shoes are dooope

[Anonymous No.10420276]

>>10420163
>Fell for the b8

[Anonymous No.10420491]

>>10420065
Check the Demonia Kera 08 for a similar style

[Anonymous No.10420588]

>>10420491
these look terrible with old school

[Anonymous No.10420590]

>>10420588
This is false

[Anonymous No.10420592]

>>10420588
Why do you think so? These're like the most basic of basic platform mary janes you can find.

[Anonymous No.10420597]

>>10420592
the shape isn't quite bubble-toe enough imo. they look very modern.

[Anonymous No.10420662]

>>10420597
What about Demonia Dolly 01?

[Anonymous No.10420813]

If ott old school existed, how would it look?

[Anonymous No.10420854]

>>10419955
proto or not this is some ugly shit and barely qualifies

[Anonymous No.10420858]

>>10420813
like that

[Anonymous No.10420861]

>>10420491
I actually have these already for my normie wear but they definitely feel out of place with out school because they're quite narrow which is why I was looking for something a bit more clunky. The Dolly 01's look great like >>10420662 suggested but it looks like they're discontinued unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.10421034]

>>10420854
It's a good thing it was never tagged as old school then.

[Anonymous No.10421060]

can we please only dump shots from pre-2008? if i wanted to see modern lolitas wearing old school, id just browse ig.

[Anonymous No.10421158]

>>10421060
Not everyone has insta or fb

[Anonymous No.10421194]

>>10421060
I don't mind seeing neo-old school if it's actually done well or interestingly, which seems rare these days.

[Anonymous No.10421201]

>>10419955
what is the name of the skirt ? I love 1 color border print.

[Anonymous No.10421204]

>>10421201
Not sure about the name, but it's Shirley Temple

[Anonymous No.10421240]

>>10421060
How about you post what you want instead of trying to police what others post

[Anonymous No.10421252]

[Anonymous No.10421253]

>>10421252

[Anonymous No.10421254]

>>10421253

[Anonymous No.10421255]

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[Anonymous No.10421256]

>>10421255

[Anonymous No.10421271]

>>10421256
I really love GosuRori for what it represents. It gives a chaotic and fun view on what lolitas actually wanted then, even if their tastes were pretty weird. These drawings are just so fucking endearing.

[Anonymous No.10421281]

>>10419916
Does anyone have any info on this type of outfit? I am surprised because pic related is one of my all time fave old school pics. so I was surprised to see
>>10419916
with the same accessories! was it a trend? I google'd pink panther and jfashion and not much came up.

[Anonymous No.10421283]

>>10421281
I think pink panther was generally just more popular in the 90s and from what I've seen in jp 90s magazines, they liked western cartoons a lot

[Anonymous No.10421285]

>>10421281
Yhe leopard cowboy hat was most likely popularized by the visual kei artist hide since he wore one very often and was very popular with the jfash crowd at the time, but I don't think the Pink Panther was a particular trend. A lot of people just seemed to like carrying toys and lunchboxes.

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[Anonymous No.10421358]

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[Anonymous No.10421359]

>>10421358

[Anonymous No.10421361]

>>10421359

[Anonymous No.10421362]

>>10421361

[Anonymous No.10421368]

>>10421359
This is so cute

[Anonymous No.10421378]

>>10421362
This is a look that got me bullied in high school. But I wouldn’t have it any other way.

[Anonymous No.10421382]

>>10421378
I think it's the bloodshot eyes and lollipop in the mouth like she could really not give any less of a fuck that really make this look

[Anonymous No.10421388]

>>10421362
It's one of these that get better the more you look at them. These goddamned leopard print bloomers and swimming goggles get me every time.

[Anonymous No.10421542]

>>10421281
yeeyeelita pls come back

[Anonymous No.10422058]

>>10421256
No fringe looks so good on her

[Anonymous No.10422061]

Can I request a dump of old school sweet coords that are more experimental than the typically btssb coords

[Anonymous No.10422150]

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[Anonymous No.10422272]

I really do hate that people think old school = black x white combo

[Anonymous No.10422273]

If this is old school, why does literally anyone wearing it nowadays get called ita? Genuine question

[Anonymous No.10422279]

>>10422273
ignorance? elitism?

[Anonymous No.10422282]

>>10422273
Most of lolita today relies on prints. If you wear a solid, floral or anything that isn't a print without a petti, you look ok, but if you wear a print, it looks miserable. Of course people are more anal and will find faults with everything, but some stylistic choices people think are just old-school are just plain bad looking.

[Anonymous No.10422287]

>>10422273
Cause people can't see difference betweeen black and white 2007 cosplay dress with cheap lace and, for example, gobelin jsk with gorgeous crochet lace

[Anonymous No.10422288]

>>10422282
I've seen many non-print coords without pettis get ripped apart because of it even if it looks fine. the simplemindedness is exhausting

[Anonymous No.10422303]

>>10422273
Because the ita thread is full of pants-on-head lolitas at heart.

[Anonymous No.10422351]

>>10422273
Because the fashion changed, back in old school days it was less polished and more disruptive, it was closer to punk fashion and other rebellious street styles. Nowadays most lolitas are trying to achieve perfection and stuff that isn’t visually pleasing at first sight are bashed.

[Anonymous No.10422366]

>>10422351
inb4 punk/goth retard anon bitches about using her word again or something.

[Anonymous No.10422372]

>>10422273
This has barely been happening since 2013, everyone and their mother stans oldschool now no matter how frumpy and shit quality it might be.

[Anonymous No.10422374]

>>10421060
Go buy some magazines then.

[Anonymous No.10422380]

>>10422288
It looks like shit most of the time, you just stared at selected Kera shots for too long.

[Anonymous No.10422415]

>>10422380
Smooth brain

[Anonymous No.10422456]

>>10421204
thank you !

[Anonymous No.10422877]

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[Anonymous No.10422882]

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[Anonymous No.10422883]

>>10422882

[Anonymous No.10422980]

>>10422880
This is so cute. Man, I wish I had friends at any point in my life.

[Anonymous No.10422984]

>>10422980
Same.

[Anonymous No.10423187]

Can somebody please dump old school Ouji/boystyle lolita?

[Anonymous No.10423210]

>>10422980
i feel that... i haven't had any friends in like 15 years.

[Anonymous No.10423254]

>>10422980
>>10422984
>>10423210
Same, anons.

[Anonymous No.10423268]

>>10421362
>>10421382
>Fashion theme: A slutty kind of feeling. Baby, you ok?
Her leopard print bloomers are handmade. She doesn't mean the brand BABY, it's a pick up line.

[Anonymous No.10423430]

Has anybody seen any new old school coords you like lately?

[Anonymous No.10423538]

>>10422415
Nice argument

[Anonymous No.10423596]

>>10420118
>proto
it never existed, stop making it a thing.

[Anonymous No.10423708]

>>10423430
Baito desu

[Anonymous No.10423710]

>>10423430
>>10423708
Wish it wasn’t bait because I actually want to see more neo old schoolers shown here but this thread would get so derailed because you guys can’t control yourselves from talking shit about other people

[Anonymous No.10423725]

>>10423710
THIS. It's ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.10423730]

[Anonymous No.10423756]

>>10423710
The only people shitting on old schoolers are old schoolers themselves. Bunch of toxic lot

[Anonymous No.10423773]

>>10423756
did you just pull that out of your ass?

[Anonymous No.10423856]

>>10423730
Eh i wish i could like this, but i would never pair stripped socks with a plaid dress.

[Anonymous No.10423885]

>>10423856
It's the opposite for me. I love black and white stripes with red tartant. It's mid to late 2000s anime kind of tacky. Very nostalgic

[Anonymous No.10423897]

>>10421281
>>10421285
Ha, ha... >>10421283 is actually right, but I feel fucking old that I remember it. Yeah, pink panther was really popular in the 90's as a motif even though the 1993 movie tanked. It was popular on girls clothing, and there were a lot of plush items floating around. There was even pink panther underwear.

I think even though the series wasn't that popular, it is a character known worldwide, and the character itself is kind of cute without being too try-hard.

[Anonymous No.10423901]

>>10423885
this desu

[Anonymous No.10423905]

Going through old issues of FRUiTS and found this. Issue 37, June 2000 I think?

[Anonymous No.10424164]

>>10423708
ayrt, it wasn’t actually bait. I just don’t have social media and was curious to see new coords

[Anonymous No.10424182]

>>10423710
It's mostly because 3/4 of the bunch all lurk here and can't help but wk themselves and their friends at every chance they get instead of just ignoring it like proper channers would do.

[Anonymous No.10424186]

>>10421542
yee

[Anonymous No.10424207]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFT9QE6kETU

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>>10424209
Her bangs are kinda weird

[Anonymous No.10424214]

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[Anonymous No.10424252]

Is there any specific reason why so many instagram e-girls are picking up (mostly bad) old school lately?

[Anonymous No.10424253]

>>10423905
I wish i could read this

[Anonymous No.10424254]

>>10424252
Probably the same reason i wear it. They fell in love with early 2000's lolita but grew up and can finally afford it now.

[Anonymous No.10424255]

>>10424164
Imagine relying solely on 4chan for lolita media consumption. Whenever people say this I assume they're full of shit.

[Anonymous No.10424257]

>>10424182
> proper channers
You need to be 18 to use this website

[Anonymous No.10424269]

>>10424257
How is using "proper channer" underage?

[Anonymous No.10424273]

>>10424254
Most of them are pretty young though and never worn lolita or any alt fashion before that. They all copy the background photoshopping too.

>>10424255
Nayrt but imagine being so dependent on social media that you can't fathom why someone wouldn't want to use it.

[Anonymous No.10424275]

>>10424273
it looks edgy and niche/subcultural to them

[Anonymous No.10424276]

>>10424208
this is a cosplay

[Anonymous No.10424277]

>>10424273
If they like the aesthetic and didn’t have money to wear it before, I don’t see why they wouldn’t copy some iconic stuff while also not having worn any other altfashion. You look into it too much. It’s good that young people also enjoy the style, it may lead to brands releasing oldschool-like stuff again, even if it’s unlikely.

[Anonymous No.10424278]

>>10424269
nobody with more than half a brain cell uses this terminology

[Anonymous No.10424283]

>>10424273
Its not the lack of social media I can't fathom, it's being interested in niche fashion while being too 1984pilled to actually keep up with it that I have a hard time with. Let's say they are telling the truth and only consume lolita media through 4chan, how reliable and efficient do you really think that is for keeping up with lolita? If they gotta beg for photos on a basketweaving board, my guess is not very.

[Anonymous No.10424288]

>>10424283
Nta but can we just post neo-oldschoolers without drama?

[Anonymous No.10424290]

>>10424277
>If they like the aesthetic and didn’t have money to wear it before
Again, these girls seem young so projecting your own situation might not even fit. It just seems like the lowest of low bandwagoning. And imo, the instagram/edgy e-girl aesthetic mixed with ot really cheapens old school at best and looks cringy at worst.
>it may lead to brands releasing oldschool-like stuff again
I doubt brands care about them and I doubt these girls would care about anything that isn't from some streetsnap.

[Anonymous No.10424291]

>>10424283
Not having social media doesn't mean they only use 4chan. They could still use pinterest, google or tumblr(without an acc). Meanwhile fb and insta are basically unusable without it.

[Anonymous No.10424292]

>>10424278
How is "proper channer" a no braincell phrase?

[Anonymous No.10424293]

>>10424290
>I doubt these girls would care about anything that isn't from some streetsnap
What does that even mean? Are you talking about clothing pieces? Because most pieces I see neo-oldschoolers wear aren't in any street snaps

[Anonymous No.10424295]

>>10424283
ayrt, I never said I only used 4chan for lolita media. I just don't have fb or insta.

[Anonymous No.10424298]

>>10424290
What does being young have to do with not being able to genuinely enjoy something? What’s up with lolitas accusing everyone of bandwagoning? It matters that they enjoy the style. I also said that I know it’s unlikely that brands will go back to their older designs, but even then we don’t have any western brands attempting to cash in on the old-school resurgence.

[Anonymous No.10424299]

>>10424290
What does being young have to do with not being able to genuinely enjoy something? What’s up with lolitas accusing everyone of bandwagoning? It matters that they enjoy the style. I also said that I know it’s unlikely that brands will go back to their older designs, but even then western brands may try to cash in on the old-school resurgence and actually make some good pieces.

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[Anonymous No.10424303]

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[Anonymous No.10424311]

>>10424310
/some neo old school from fb. maybe someone else can dump from ig.

[Anonymous No.10424312]

>>10424304
>,
Her makeup looks so much like Fanny's

[Anonymous No.10424321]

>>10424311
Insta dump

[Anonymous No.10424322]

>>10424321

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>>10424322

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>>10424323

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>>10424328

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>>10424334

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>>10424337

[Anonymous No.10424340]

1994 issue of CUTiE that shows some lolita-looking outfits in a preview. https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j652797280 if anyone wants to buy the magazine and scan it in for the community.

Does anyone know how popular Pink House was in the 90s/early 00s? I heard it was pretty popular in the 80s, but I'm having the hardest fucking time finding any snaps at all featuring the brand. I went through all the issues of FRUiTS in that archive and didn't see anything that stood out as being obviously Pink House- and they're one of the brands that slaps their English name on every article of clothing. I've heard people say Pink House was sort of a precursor to lolita, along with Milk, and I saw Milk in nearly every issue of FRUiTS and CUTiE. I hope this makes sense.

[Anonymous No.10424345]

>>10424340
Look at erika_tsukinose on instagram, they post a lot off old coords from the 90s and 00s with pink house

[Anonymous No.10424353]

>>10424293
I'm specifically talking about the e-girls who recently started wearing it,not just the neo-old schoolers. And yes, the clothing among the ridiculously over-idolizing of everything that is an asian girl in a 90s/early 00s magazine. I really doubt they would buy anything new or retail priced.

>>10424299
For the love of god anon, please read properly before you get personally offended. That "being young" was an answer to you thinking they didn't wear it before because they didn't have the money. That "genuinely enjoying" is what you added out of nowhere.
>What’s up with lolitas accusing everyone of bandwagoning?
I was talking about the e-girls, not lolitas in general. And trend chasing and dressing for validation/popularity/need to belong to a group is a thing, especially among teens. At least the background shooping became really stale by now.

[Anonymous No.10424362]

>>10424353
E-girls are just following the cottage-core trend and mixing it with the "edgy 90s eurasian goth girl" trend. When you mix them together you get some kind of bastard child that looks a bit like old school. It's not that deep.

[Anonymous No.10424365]

>>10424345
He also used to work at Pink House if I remember correctly which is pretty cool, he's an og

[Anonymous No.10424368]

>>10424345
Whoa, this guy follows me and I almost blocked him for being a sissy

[Anonymous No.10424369]

>>10424362
What exactly is a Eurasian goth girl? Is there some popular mixed-race goth model or are you talking about goths from Kazakhstan or something?

[Anonymous No.10424375]

>>10424369
Visigoths best goths, good ol' 590s

[Anonymous No.10424377]

>>10424369
this is a great look t b h

[Anonymous No.10424381]

>>10424368
erika isnt a sissy, he's been wearing the fashion since the very beginning and is sincere about it. his blog is nice

[Anonymous No.10424390]

>>10424335
>>10424321
>>10424309
>>10424304
>>10424301
Love these!

[Anonymous No.10424409]

>>10424369
Eurasian is a way of calling Hafu/white people who pretend to be 1/4 japanese.

[Anonymous No.10424506]

>>10424306
what's in her hair?

[Anonymous No.10424510]

>>10424409
wtf are you trying to say??

[Anonymous No.10424519]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4at73tUMAs

This guy is incredible. Thank you for showing me his blogs

[Anonymous No.10424528]

>>10424506
Feathers

[Anonymous No.10424650]

>>10424409
Anon asked what Eurasian is. It is a common term for someone who is mixed race part European and part Japanese, and is also sometimes used as a snide insult towards weebs who lie about being mixed.

[Anonymous No.10424685]

>>10424650
NTA but eurasian doesn't exactly mean that.

[Anonymous No.10424782]

>>10424685
It has different connotations in the realm of online forums, don't be daft.

[Anonymous No.10424793]

>>10424650
eurasian means any kind of hapa, not just half japanese specifically. look at r/hapas, they us this word all the time

[Anonymous No.10424794]

>>10424793
Faggot has different connotation depending on the corner of the internet you're from, and yet here you are still being one. Stop derailing.

[Anonymous No.10425039]

>>10424528
Thank you. That's pretty cute!

[Anonymous No.10425050]

>>10424794
>gets mad about being corrected and so derails thread by mentioning faggot terminology
>tells others to stop derailing

[Anonymous No.10425359]

"Cant sit with us" energy

[Anonymous No.10425360]

>>10425359

[Anonymous No.10425361]

>>10425360

[Anonymous No.10425362]

>>10425361

[Anonymous No.10425363]

>>10425362

[Anonymous No.10425365]

>>10425361
Are those men

[Anonymous No.10425367]

>>10425363
Love this cuffed panda

[Anonymous No.10425369]

>>10425367

[Anonymous No.10425371]

>>10425369

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>>10425371

[Anonymous No.10425375]

>>10425373

[Anonymous No.10425376]

>>10425375

[Anonymous No.10425378]

>>10425376
End for now

[Anonymous No.10425402]

>>10425365
>Not knowing who Aya is
How new can you be?

[Anonymous No.10425406]

>>10425402
i've been in this fashion forever, i just don't give much of a shit learning about the designers or old school shit. probably the only asians i could pick out of a lineup are misako and the chick who models for AP. and i guess mana with his makeup on.

they both look like men, especially the one on the left.

[Anonymous No.10425447]

>>10425406
Suuuure

[Anonymous No.10425565]

>>10425406
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.10425594]

>>10425406
I'm with you on not caring about designers, but don't post in the old school thread if you don't care bout old school at all

[Anonymous No.10425606]

>>10425402
Not everyone cares about twi specific issues of old glbs.

[Anonymous No.10425607]

>>10425402
Not everyone cares about two specific issues of old glbs.

[Anonymous No.10425608]

>>10425365
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10425627]

I was prescribed hormones. Im going to get giant boobs. Fuck my life and farewell to old school.

Have fun with crochet lace, you were awesome, lovelies

[Anonymous No.10425651]

>>10425607
Do you even like oldschool?

[Anonymous No.10425652]

>>10425627
that's not how anything works, anon. if taking hormones could magically give you huge boobs, no one would be dropping tons of money on implants

[Anonymous No.10425663]

>>10425607
>>10425406
>I just don't give much of a shit learning about old school shit
>Not everyone cares about old lolita media
>in the old school thread
Fuck off then

[Anonymous No.10425667]

>>10425651
>>10425663
I'm not the OP retards. Getting uppity over this despite the fact that you wouldn't know him either if it wasn't for those two issues is just cringy and just as tryhard as people like to stereotype neo-oldschoolers.

[Anonymous No.10425674]

>>10425667
>you wouldn't know him either if it wasn't for those two issues
Nice assumption you've got there

[Anonymous No.10425680]

>>10425674
You know it's true.

[Anonymous No.10425682]

>>10425406
That's the equivalent of saying that you love Moitie but have never heard of Mana before.

Lolitas these days are truly uncultured swines.

[Anonymous No.10425685]

>>10425607
Two issues? Have you ever opened a GLB before issue 40? Have you ever read about the influences in the fashion in the old times? And you call yourself an oldschooler? Geez, I'm sorry for your empty hobby

[Anonymous No.10425687]

>>10425682
No it really isn't.

[Anonymous No.10425690]

>>10425680
you do know that some people get into lolita through visual kei right?

[Anonymous No.10425698]

>>10425685
Yes, two issues, the one that's fairytale themed and the one with one of his collab dresses. I owned all of them at some point. Did you?
> Have you ever read about the influences in the fashion in the old times?
Please tell me what exactly of an influence a short lived borderline literal who band like Psycho le cemu had on lolita fashion except for Aya modeling for glb for a few months? This keeps getting more and more embarassing.

Interview with a vampire gets mentioned several times in glb too, is it an ~old school classic~ that needs to get worshipped now?

[Anonymous No.10425699]

>>10425690
They were barely popular in the west when they were still together. Stop.

[Anonymous No.10425701]

>>10425698
*Interview with the vampire

[Anonymous No.10425703]

>>10425701
t. in the bad timeline

[Anonymous No.10425707]

>>10425698
There's the one about their rooms decorations, the one about psycho's shows in Tokyo, the ads etc you either don't read Japanese or is fastly browsing lolitahistory in search for validation

[Anonymous No.10425710]

>>10425698
>is it an ~old school classic~ that needs to get worshipped now
Nayrt but yes. How come you do not worship interview with the vampire?

[Anonymous No.10425711]

>>10425710
I do not worship interview with a vampire because Brad Pitt sucks desu.

[Anonymous No.10425713]

>>10425707
>you either don't read Japanese or is fastly browsing lolitahistory in search for validation
Are you projecting? Half of these are in the same issue.

[Anonymous No.10425715]

>>10425711
Peak humor, thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.10425750]

>>10425698
He’s done more than one collab with different brands, and I can think of at least 6 different photos from different GLBs that feature him in different outfits from different brands as well. Don’t be ignorant

[Anonymous No.10425758]

>>10425750
There was the fairytale themed volume that included the mirror shot and other photoshoots of him wearing brands with the theme and one ad of him wearing that white silk-like white OP, another volume with an ad of him wearing his camo collab and one with him wearing meta and a short interview with him. We can argue if he appeared in 2,3 or 4 glbs all you want but that doesn't change the fact that he barely was an important person to put on a pedestal unless glbs are all the knowledge you have from around back then.

[Anonymous No.10425759]

>>10425758
No one is putting Aya on a pedestal, salty anon. It's just a shame that someone that claims to love a fashion doesn't know the basics of its origin. Aya was an important figure back when lolita was still in its roots, when girls would meet up in clubs and be interested in visual kei, getting their visual cues of the fashion from musical idols. It's basic to know that much, as it is to know how much of the fashion grew underground, outside the mainstream of GLB publications.

[Anonymous No.10425760]

>>10425750
There was the fairytale themed volume that included the mirror shot and other photoshoots of him wearing brands with the theme and one ad of him wearing that white silk-like white OP, another volume with an ad of him wearing his camo collab and one with him wearing meta and a short interview with him. We can argue if he appeared in 2,3 or 4 glbs all you want but that doesn't change the fact that he barely was an important person to put on a pedestal unless glbs are all the knowledge you have from around back then. Which wouldn't even be a problem if it wasn't for this weird tryhard behaviour.

[Anonymous No.10425762]

>>10425760
>>10425759

[Anonymous No.10425765]

>>10425759
>No one is putting Aya on a pedestal, salty anon
>>10425682
>>10425402
>>10425685

>It's just a shame that someone that claims to love a fashion doesn't know the basics of its origin. Aya was an important figure back when lolita was still in its roots
Please stop talking out of your ass. Japanese lolitas listened to a lot of artist with this visual kei & mixed genre music that was popular for a while, some of those artists didn't wore lolita either. That alone doesn't make him an ~important figure~. In the western comm people only talked about him when they were talking about crossdressers or models, barely anyone of the lolitas listened to his band. No one acted this stupidly over not knowing him either.

[Anonymous No.10425766]

>>10425760
>weird tryhard behaviour.
Anon is just messing around and you took it personal, anon. Aya was an important figure, and it could have ended there, but you and other anon just kept pressing. I know it's not the culture of this board, but ignoring things is usually more effective than chaining replies.

[Anonymous No.10425767]

>>10425765
You feel for a bait and now you're ashamed of it, I see it.

[Anonymous No.10425768]

>>10425766
I didn't took it personal but I'm annoyed by neo-old schoolers completely twisting narratives about things they weren't even around for and straight up making things up so it fits their views.

[Anonymous No.10425769]

>>10425767
What?

[Anonymous No.10425779]

[Anonymous No.10425791]

>>10425768
Not everyone involved in old school lolita is a "neo-oldschooler" and there are quite a few who were around to remember that you're wrong. You type ESL so you probably aren't aware that a decent chunk of westerners into jfashion in the early 00s were quite familiar with psycho le cemu and other popular vk acts of the time through magazines like Cure (which was sold in Hot Topic, a very mainstream store even then). GLB isn't and wasn't the only magazine people read or had access to, but by all means really double down on these incorrect assumptions.

[Anonymous No.10425798]

>>10425779

[Anonymous No.10425800]

>>10425798

[Anonymous No.10425801]

>>10425800

[Anonymous No.10425807]

>>10425791
>Not everyone involved in old school lolita is a "neo-oldschooler"
Where did I say that?
>you probably aren't aware that a decent chunk of westerners into jfashion in the early 00s were quite familiar vk acts of the time through magazines like Cure (which was sold in Hot Topic, a very mainstream store even then).
Bitch I was around then too and what has being ESL to do with anything? I literally said that vk was popular for a while. And yes, Cure and Shoxx were also sold in my city's weeb shops, but how does their existence disprove anything I said? Psycho le cemu was (among other bands that fizzled out) still a borderline literal who band that had is limelight for like a year before they got ditched, especially in the west and double especially for western lolitas. Claiming they are important and a must-know old-school icon because of that is a real joke.

[Anonymous No.10425810]

>>10425807
can you stop shitting up the thread with your bullshit

[Anonymous No.10425811]

>>10425810
>waa stop discussing on a website for discussion

[Anonymous No.10425923]

>>10425807
You sound upset

[Anonymous No.10425930]

>>10425807
Nobody said they were a big deal band, just that they were popular enough to be recognizable. This really isn't as big a deal as you're making it seem, but calling people bitches just for responding to you is pretty immature for a self-proclaimed oldfag who just wants to have a discussion on a funny outfit board.

[Anonymous No.10425935]

>>10425923
>>10425768

>>10425930
>Nobody said they were a big deal band,
Read the convo before you post.
>calling people bitches just for responding to you
Read the convo before you post.
This also isn't facebook.

[Anonymous No.10425939]

>>10425935
>this isn't Facebook
Huh

[Anonymous No.10425950]

>>10425935
You seem incoherent

[Anonymous No.10425965]

>>10425950
The first post wasn't cool enough, huh?

[Anonymous No.10425971]

>>10425594
i care about coords for coord inspo, just not individual designers or figureheads.

>>10425447
>>10425565
you don't have to believe me, but surely you know lolitas like me who also don't know/care about these ugly trannie-esque women. the only reason i even know about mana is because people here won't stfu about him and have a million memes about worshipping him. you dont need to know about these people at all to spend money on AP and put together a coord.

[Anonymous No.10425974]

>>10425965
Who hurt you anon

[Anonymous No.10425976]

>>10425974
>Who hurt you anon
Huh

[Anonymous No.10425977]

>>10425950
there's nothing incoherent about what she was saying. i'm the original OP who asked about those men, and i actually learned a lot. namely, that there's no reason i even needed to know (and still don't need to know) those literal-who men, especially since I think VK is garbage. glad to have found out i was right and that people like >>10425565
>>10425447
truly were just being autists. as if i need to know some tranny from a failed band to put together a sweet coord

[Anonymous No.10425981]

>>10425977
The response is incoherent. Obviously this anon seems think they know the person they are responding to and are being incredibly weird about it.
But hey at least you got something out of the exchange. It wasn't a terrible band but they went on a hiatus after their vocalist got into some trouble and tried coming back for a reunion but I'm not sure how it was received.

[Anonymous No.10425982]

I just want to get back to dumping old school scans but idk the post limit

[Anonymous No.10425983]

>>10425981
>Obviously this anon seems think they know the person they are responding to
What? Where did I even mention or imply that?

[Anonymous No.10425984]

>>10425982
Make a new thread and just let this one die

[Anonymous No.10425987]

>>10425984
They all end up like this

[Anonymous No.10425991]

>>10425982
This thread really is a newfag hub. It's 310.

[Anonymous No.10425997]

>>10425984
>>10425987
>>10425991
The whole argument was still on the topic of oldschool. You faggots don't need to actually shit up the thread with multiple posts of off topic complaining.

[Anonymous No.10426026]

>>10425997
This, even if the discussion was heated it was still on topic. If you want to have a better thread then contribute to this one with a dumb or start a new discussion with questions.

[Anonymous No.10426056]

>>10425627
>>10425406
( you)

Stop shitposting. Women don't look like men just because they aren't shooped into dorito chinned freaks. Oldschool girls looked edgy and fantastic in their hair and makeup choices

[Anonymous No.10426061]

>>10425977
>as if i need to know some tranny from a failed band to put together a sweet coord
kek

[Anonymous No.10426115]

Can someone post pic with uberfabric?

[Anonymous No.10426429]

>>10426115

[Anonymous No.10426454]

>>10425977
>since I think VK is garbage.
here, that's the problem. it's not about wether one like it or not, it's about recognizing its role on the upbringing of a fashion you claim to love.

You don't love lolita, you love yourself and the clothes, so stop pretending you ever felt anything towards the fashion.

>>10425935
>Nobody said they were a big deal band,
I stand my point. there's no passage saying they were a big deal band, but it's a shame if you do not recognize Aya.

[Anonymous No.10426455]

>>10426429
That fabric is ugly af

[Anonymous No.10426457]

>>10426455
how does it feel to be so wrong

[Anonymous No.10426466]

>>10426455
No you're ugly

[Anonymous No.10426486]

>>10426454
Nayrt but you sound like a massive larper. It's just music some lolitas listened to and style inspiration among other things. They don't love lolita any less than others just because they don't like the music.

[Anonymous No.10426501]

>>10426455
ita

[Anonymous No.10426506]

[Anonymous No.10426507]

>>10426506

[Anonymous No.10426509]

>>10426507

[Anonymous No.10426510]

>>10426509

[Anonymous No.10426511]

>>10426510

[Anonymous No.10426512]

>>10426511

[Anonymous No.10426524]

>>10426511
What a weird name for a magazine.

[Anonymous No.10426545]

>>10426454
>thinking VK is garbage is the problem!!
>it's not about wether one likes it or not though uwu
>uwu you may like the clothes you're wearing but you're not a lolita AT HEART! uwu
Lmao fuck off roleplayer. Listening to vk doesn't make you a lolita.

[Anonymous No.10426548]

>>10426524
anon, please.

[Anonymous No.10426646]

>>10426056
Anon.....those were men.

[Anonymous No.10426647]

>>10426454
>You don't love lolita, you love yourself and the clothes
So liking the fashion means you don't like the fashion.

The autism is unreal.

[Anonymous No.10426654]

>>10425791
reading glbs doesn't make you a lolita or not. lmao. don't think we don't know where tf you know about aya or plc.

[Anonymous No.10426666]

>>10426511
She looks so cool

[Anonymous No.10426673]

>>10426454
>they aren't a big deal but they are important and every oldschooler should know them
Backpeddal some more.

>>10426647
Silly anon, clothes are obviously not fashion.

[Anonymous No.10426734]

>>10426429
are they really all the same? I can't confidently say they're identical imo

[Anonymous No.10426745]

>>10426429

What terms would I need to search online to buy some uberfabric for handmade?

[Anonymous No.10426756]

>>10426734
Short-sleeved MA one and Meta might not be the same. Bad image quality, shirring and bow make it hard to see, but it looks similliar enough. Meta on the other hand I'm pretty sure is not the uberfabric, you can see small leaves that aren't present in others. But I might be wrong.
>>10426745
Floral gobelin

[Anonymous No.10426813]

>>10426745
there was an anon in the handmade threads who made a gobelin dress this past year. people pointed out that since her fabric was meant for upholstery it was more stiff and had a larger pattern than what brand would use. it still looked nice, but watch out for those things in case it's possible to avoid them.

[Anonymous No.10426965]

>>10426734
It looks slightly different

[Anonymous No.10427078]

>>10424299
because they aren't "speciul" anymore and wear the fashion to be unique rather than out of a genuine love

[Anonymous No.10427357]

>>10427078
That's a pretty bullshit cope.

[Anonymous No.10427369]

>>10427078
You sound old and bitter

[Anonymous No.10427380]

>>10427369
They are talking about people who mention bandwagonners.

[Anonymous No.10429090]

>>10424309
I LOVE HER

[Anonymous No.10429119]

>>10424312
Did you reply to the wrong post? Her makeup is super 90s and doesn’t look anything like FR’s in the slightest. And FR has just been doing the red-rimmed sickly look recently.

[Anonymous No.10429128]

>>10429119
No, I still think her makeup (not only in this pic, but in all her latest coords') do resemble FR's makeup style from two years ago.

[Anonymous No.10429133]

>>10429119
hi Ophelia

[Anonymous No.10429146]

>>10429119
It doesn't look anything like 90's though? During 90's we had eyeliner around the whole eye, bright colors for lipstick, thin eyebrows but not draw this way, stronger eye shadow and a bunch of shimmer all over the place.

[Anonymous No.10429147]

>>10429146
Anon probably meant 90's as in GLB, anon.

[Anonymous No.10429149]

>>10429147
Ah, yes. the 90's GLB first published in 2001.

[Anonymous No.10429152]

>>10429147
>>10429147
I stand my point. Also, I don't remember seeing people wearing blush that way? Maybe a peachy powder, or bronze tones, but nothing like the reddish tone she is wearing. So I don't see the point of calling it 90's?

[Anonymous No.10429156]

>>10429119
anon not-so-anon, please.

[Anonymous No.10429164]

>>10429156
kek down to the overdrawn lip

[Anonymous No.10429208]

re: makeup, are you all too young to remember kinderwhore or something? jfc

[Anonymous No.10429222]

>>10429208
What are you going on anon?

[Anonymous No.10429223]

>>10429208
this is literally not kinderwhore, anon

[Anonymous No.10429236]

>>10429208
Stop wking and embarrassing yourself plz

[Anonymous No.10429247]

>>10429208
>are you all too young to remember
You're not even old enough to have actually experienced the 90s, Ophelia

[Anonymous No.10429270]

>>10429208
>>10429222
>>10429223
>>10429236
>>10429247

[Anonymous No.10429273]

>>10429270
what is this supposed to prove? it looks nothing at all like her makeup

[Anonymous No.10429923]

>>10429273
I think that's the point anon was making, assuming both pics were posted by the same person.

[Anonymous No.10430040]

>>10429923
no, it wasn't. I posted the first one. The second anon was probably drunk or blind

[Anonymous No.10430779]

[Anonymous No.10430841]

>>10430779
Make a new thread

[Anonymous No.10431782]

>>10429156
sause on the mushroom dress?

[Anonymous No.10437523]

>>10423268
ふしだら does mean slut but it also means messy. Doesn't the latter word make more sense here?