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Discuss cgl related feels plz

>> No.10421616

Why is that image such a low quality?

>> No.10421638

I just noticed that AtePie sells lace by the yard and I'm itching to make things

>> No.10421653

All I see on my IG story feed is BLM shit, why white people should feel bad for being white along with other various virtue signaling posts being slung left and right.
When is this shit going to end.
>t. brown skinned mudslime

>> No.10421658

>>10421589
I just ordered a swimsuit for colossalcon. I am not fat, but I am also not muscular, so I am hoping that doing a lot of push ups or sit ups can fix that.

>> No.10421659

>>10421653
sounds like self hatred and you misunderstanding the cause, but ok

>> No.10421662

>>10421653
It should be over by now. Everyone in George Floyd's incident was arrested and charged, coronavirus cases have doubled thanks to the protests, and I'm just tired of it altogether.

>>10421659
Go back to tumblr.

>> No.10421663

>>10421653
/pol/tard detected

>> No.10421664

>>10421659
Not that anon but why do people keep calling it self hatred? I find it annoying as well. As a black person, I already know the struggles and strifes of racial life, I don't need a black square.

>> No.10421665

>>10421664
Not that person, but she called herself "mudslime"
That is self hatred
Or a troll

>> No.10421666

>>10421659
>White person here, let me tell you the correct way to feel and act despite not being a minority

Take your white savior shit and fuck off

>> No.10421667

>>10421664
I'm >>10421659
and also black and I think that it's self hatred if you don't think your own life matters. I don't know what else to say.

>>10421662

> coronavirus cases have doubled thanks to the protests

been listening to faux news have we?

>> No.10421668

>>10421659
>>10421663
My mans, I made an IG to look at cosplay and weeb shit.
>>10421664
Put it pretty nicely.

>>10421665
It's 4chan you fucking faggot, it's a joke.

>> No.10421669

>>10421666
wild that you automatically assume that I'm white. I'm not.

>> No.10421670

>>10421662

It's not just about Floyd. There are a ton of other people who haven't had any justice/still being in situations where police unnecessarily use excessive force, etc. and people want institutional change or regulations. Plus they just want to generally raise awareness and remind people of the issues black people face and how to help. Black people have to think about this all the time (ex: myself), and it's rough, so I get that it may be hard for white people or those who have been able to avoid awareness about the issue to suddenly have it thrust upon them but we have to deal with it from childhood and don't complain half as much as the white people who can just ignore it if they really wanted to.

I'm no mad at anyone or anything, but the reason protests haven't stopped since the beginning is bigger than this one murder/case.

>> No.10421677

>>10421668
>>10421664
>I already know the struggles
Then no one is marching for you

>> No.10421678
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10421678

2 posts in and the thread is already a dumpster fire?

>> No.10421680

not that /cgl/ related but wanted to post anyways.

>be me, 19, enjoy lolita, moderate social life and at the best uni in our state, home for summer
>have sister, 31, super weeb, just finished getting associates in some history related field, working retail for little above min wage, still lives at home
>sister has mild autism, bad anxiety, and bad depression
>sister has no irl friends but constantly posts on Facebook asking if anyone wants to hang out with her, to which nobody replies
>sister posts really really awful art to deviantart that get 1-2 favorites on a good day
>sister has 1 online friend she met through deviantart who's generally really rude to her, but she puts up with it because it's her only friend
>sister constantly excitedly sits on discord waiting for said friend to reply, who maybe talks to her once a week
>ask sister if she wants to walk near a lake with me today, she declines since said "friend" is online
>friend never responds to her
>walk past her room and hear crying

I feel so sad for her. She is genuinely such a kind person, she's always done whatever my parents ask with no complaints, I've literally never seen her yell or get angry for a selfish reason. She's just socially awkward with some mental setbacks. My parents are getting old and generally don't take care of their health well enough to live super long and I worry what she's going to do after they pass.

>> No.10421681

>>10421616
This. Seriously, how did so many people get caught up in this cult? It's shocking to see so many people who are mindlessly following what the bourgeoisie astroturf. Where were these people when there were lockdown protests? Supposedly these people care about people's rights, but only when the media says it's okay? It's pretty obvious that they concern they have for people is fake. They don't care about black lives consistently. They only care when it's a criminal. The people supported blm aren't victims. They're just minions for the oppressor.

>> No.10421686

>>10421667
>been listening to faux news have we?
No, I look at the raw case stats for my state. We're probably going to have to go on lockdown again soon since we're back to over 100 cases per day thanks to these dumbass protesters.

>> No.10421687

>>10421670
You know who else suffers racism and discrimination but managed to become extremely successful and happy? Asians. Why don't black people take some notes from how they achieved that instead of being violent and looting?

>> No.10421688

>>10421681
lmfao

>> No.10421689

>>10421680
Man, that's rough. Kind of a reach, but does she see normally some kind of therapist? Usually occupational therapists help people with ASD or other developmental conditions adjust to being more independent, whether it's job training or dealing with social interactions. Sometimes they'll have resources for group homes or day centers. Youre a good sister for being concerned. It's really important to address it soon especially since your parents are getting older

>> No.10421690

>>10421686
We don't have to go on any lockdown. You can just continue living in your mom's basement and the productive members of society will carry on.

>> No.10421691

>>10421681
>but only when the media says it's okay
This part is true af. Pretty much everyone ignored BLM the first time it happened years ago because it didn't have the hype

>> No.10421692

>>10421690
>the productive members of society
You mean the looters, vandals and other assorted criminals? lmfao such good people

>> No.10421694

>>10421687
>asian stereotypes
>tiny penis, good at math, kills self when stressed
>black stereotypes
>stupid, bad, thieves

Yeah I can't imagine how one managed to claw to the top and the other didn't

>> No.10421695

>>10421680
She's a super weeb but somehow hasn't met any men at conventions?

>> No.10421696

>>10421694
>yellow panic
>concentration camps
>othering
How can a person even be this ignorant

>> No.10421697

>>10421692
No, I am talking about the people that are employed. Do they not have an economy where you live?

>> No.10421698

>>10421687
Sure, Black people can just make their own communities, I mean the last time they tried that it ended with the Tulsa Massacre, but hey. What can ya do

>> No.10421699

>>10421696
>birth of a nation
>slavery
>segregation
Same goes to you, bitch

>> No.10421701

>>10421699
The whole point is that Asians faced just as much racism and ended successful without violence and crime. Black people should have followed that example

>> No.10421704

>>10421689
I know she met with someone a while ago who was supposed to help her with occupational
things, but I think she stopped seeing them for whatever reason. She also used to see a regular therapist normally but didn't see much improvement since I believe her main concern right now is her social life, and the thing stopping people from wanting to be friends with her is her "weird personality"
Maybe I'll talk to my parents a bit more to see about talking to her to start up again, looking into resources for group homes etc (I'd talk to her myself but I don't know if being talked to about these things by your sister who's 11 years younger would just feel shitty)
I know my dad is setting aside money for her to live off of and by the time it runs out I hope the career path I'm following will be enough to pay for what she needs too, I just wish she had a real friend
Thanks for your reply, I really appreciated it

>>10421695
She's asexual, has bad hygiene, overweight, and can pass as a guy who just has a bit longer hair. She tried to talk to some people at a convention before, but got ghosted. I think men also kind of traumatized her since she had one male friend in high school who pushed her down a flight of stairs in front of everyone and told her to stop following him

>> No.10421705

>>10421687

I consider looting and protests to be separate things.

Why do you lump all people of one race together as if they are responsible for the actions of on another? That's silly. Asians suffer from different problems that also suck and it's great that many of them have been able to succeed in spite of that. Many black people have too but no one ever seems to give them any credit and act as if the entire race has to be perfect citizens as a whole for any individual black people to deserve respect/to be commended for their work or success. It seems more like you want to praise Asians because they complain less publicly, not because of their success alone.

>> No.10421707

>>10421701
>just as much
Not in the states. Asians were never killed and thrown down the nigger hole en-masse for not being able to slave anymore
Asians weren't bombed in their own ethnic enclaves last century
Asians don't get choked to death by police so commonly that it's been caught on camera multiple times
I'm not saying there's no racism against Asians in the usa, I'm saying the violent racism from law holders is disproportionate toward black people

>> No.10421708

>>10421701

Asians faced racism but were not forcefully brought here and put into generational slavery and then legally discriminated against with long term consequences in the same way. Yes they had issues but Asians thrived in white society partly because of culture and education, something that was stripped from black people by force.

>> No.10421710

>>10421680
Ugh this hurts my heart to read, I'm so sad for her! Do you think there's maybe any potential groups or communities she might be able to quietly join and make friends over time with? I used to be on deviantart ages ago and joined some roleplay art groups, there were usually all kinds of art levels, but if you show up every day to those it seemed like people would want to become friends. Or if she likes books, are there book clubs, etc.? Sorry if this isn't helpful at all, you both sound super sweet and I hope you can find something that helps.

>> No.10421711

>>10421707
You are completely ignoring the point that success as a minority is achievable in a peaceful way without violence and crime.

>> No.10421712
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10421712

>cgl feel
one of my high wishlist dresses got listed and bought on LM within a couple minutes recently, and i was super bummed out that i missed it until i refreshed about an hour or so later and it was relisted (guessing the buyer backed out) and i got it! i still have one of my DDs in the mail right now that i'm waiting for too :')

>> No.10421715

>>10421707
>choked to death by police so commonly that it's been caught on camera
>violent racism

It's already been proven that the two knew each other very well and that it wasn't a racially motivated crime. This stuff simply isn't happening the way the media is portraying it.

>> No.10421717

>>10421711
You're ignoring that there's 300 years of added shit to have to climb over for blacks
You did not have to climb over everyone thinking you're a rotten, thieving nigger who's too stupid to read, because your ancestors didn't let my ancestors learn to read
There was a century worth of attempts made for black people to live separately from white people, and each one ended in a race massacre
It is different. You are acting like a child if you claim you can't wrap your head around that

>> No.10421718

>>10421715
Okay, cool, what about Breonna Taylor?

>> No.10421719

>>10421715
I believe that officer specifically was racist or just insane considering all the complaints he already had against him. But Floyd was also a violent criminal against his own race and a horrible person in general, so treating him like a heroic angel is gross too

>> No.10421720

>>10421715
>choked to death by police so commonly that it's been caught on camera multiple times
>choked commonly
Do you honestly think I'm talking about 1-3 incidents?

>> No.10421721

>>10421719
Yes Chauvin definitely sounds like a psycho who should have been removed a long time ago, I'm not defending him.

>> No.10421723

>>10421717
I'd love to hear your excuses for Latinos too

>> No.10421724

>>10421723
We literally keep those in cages in America.

>> No.10421725

>>10421724
Felony illegal Latinos are not the same as Latino-Americans. Locking up felons is not an issue. Try again

>> No.10421726

>>10421723
I'd love to hear you actually try to argue instead of balking when you're met with being wrong
Also
>>10421724
This

>> No.10421728

>>10421725
>she doesn't know America deports legals too
Are you larping? Why are you so into american politics if you're this unfamiliar with them?

>> No.10421729

>>10421726
Argue what? Asians succeeded because they were peaceful, actively discouraged crime and encouraged education and success within their racial community. Blacks and Latinos encourage gangs and violence and eschew the importance of education in their communities. This isn't a mystery

>> No.10421730

>>10421717
>You did not have to climb over everyone thinking you're a rotten, thieving nigger who's too stupid to read, because your ancestors didn't let my ancestors learn to read
Neither do black people today, let alone their grandparents, but guess what? They still loot and riot when they don't get their way. They're oppressed, in fact, they're so used to getting their way that they think people should kneel to them like kings. They have all kinds of special accommodations, yet despite having all the cards stacked in their favor, they still can't get ahead. Think about what kind of person doesn't win a game rigged in their favor.

>> No.10421733

>>10421729
>>10421730
Welp, arguments over, the racists revealed their trap cards
That's how long they can pretend to not be biased

>> No.10421734

>>10421728
You mean the people who aided illegals by letting them live in their house? Or people who knew of illegals but didn't report? Sure, deport them too. They're accessories to a felony

>> No.10421735

>>10421730

You haven't addressed comments challenging your assumption that every black person is responsible for the behavior of other black people. If some black people loot that doesn't inherently mean every protestor and by extension every black person is somehow a looter when things don't go their way.

>> No.10421736

>>10421733
Facts are racist? Look up stats on gang membership and violent crime and tell me how Asians stack up next to all the others, including whites. They're the absolute lowest by miles.

>> No.10421737

>>10421730
>Think about what kind of person doesn't win a game rigged in their favor.

This is how I feel about loser deadbeat incel white dudes.

I guess it's easy to dismiss the existence of privilege when you haven't amounted to much despite it.

>> No.10421738

>>10421735
Just like if some cops are bad, that doesn't mean "all cops are bastards" lmfao. I can't take sjws seriously because of this right here

>> No.10421739

>>10421736

Nayrt but is your argument that all black people deserve unfair judgement or poor treatment/discrimination because a percentage of them commit crimes? That seems illogical.

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10421740

Imagine selling 14 items and theyre all such garbage they aren’t even worth 200$ combined lol

>> No.10421741

>>10421736
>>10421730
>>10421729
You have literally ignored every point I've made to say "asians are lovelies, niggers and spics are violent"
You have nothing to say about either ones' history except that apparently the past doesn't effect the present
What fucking argument
Actually engage with me

>> No.10421744

>>10421738
Law enforcement in the US was literally founded as a way to protect rich white feelings and oppress minorities and poor people. If you're a cop you're complicit in a system that was evil from the beginning no matter how nice you personally are sorry

>> No.10421745

>>10421738

I am not personally saying "ACAB" and never have. But being a cop and defending other cops' bad behavior is a career choice, one people make even knowing that corruption is rampant. Having black skin is not.

>> No.10421748

>>10421739
My argument is that blacks could have fought for justice peacefully as another minority has already successfully done.

>> No.10421749

>>10421744
Cool, I hope you never need cops to protect you in any event, because you don't deserve their help when you think this way

>> No.10421750

>>10421748
So you're STILL ignoring the plain fact that it is harder to fight for justice when the people whole dole out the justice do not believe that you deserve justice
What about facts don't care about your feelings huh? Does that only count when you say it?

>> No.10421751

>>10421707
>Asians weren't bombed in their own ethnic enclaves last century
Lolwut

>> No.10421752

I wish feels threads didn't devolve into this every time. Between racebaiters and trannybaiters cgl is fucked and all discussions become one or another.

>> No.10421755

>>10421735
>You haven't addressed comments challenging your assumption that every black person is responsible for the behavior of other black people
Why should I? I never said that they should be. But they seem to think that I am somehow responsible for slavery so it's not a valid question.

>>10421737
>This is how I feel about loser deadbeat incel white dudes.
I agree. These loser who say "MUH autism" are just as bad as these blacks who cry racism. They know how to do all kinds of shit with technology, but somehow they can't use it to make something of themselves? Give me a break.


>I guess it's easy to dismiss the existence of privilege when you haven't amounted to much despite it.
It's easy to dismiss because it's fake. Hate is earned, not given. Generations of atrocities have lead to generations of hatred.

>> No.10421756

>>10421750
You do know there are black cops, judges, and other law enforcers? Tons of them, actually

>> No.10421757

>>10421751
>in the states

>> No.10421758

>>10421748

That argument still assumes every black person has to take blame for the actions of others they don't even support or agree with. There ARE peaceful black protestors and have been in history.

Does this mean you disagree with armed lockdown protests too for not being peaceful/having some people present yelling at or harassing medical workers and cops?

>> No.10421759

>>10421756
And you know there are millionaires in jail
You ever heard that whole exception-proving-the-rule bit? Because that does seem to be your default argument

>> No.10421760

>>10421758
Every single person protesting and spreading corona everywhere right now is a moron, whether it's MAGA or BLM, yes.

>> No.10421761

>>10421755

I am black and have never blamed modern white people for slavery or anything. Again, you are using the arguments or behavior of SOME to disregard the whole under the assumption the whole is the same and that's not logical.

>> No.10421763

>>10421761
You say that, but oddly enough you don't have a single quote proving I've done that?

>> No.10421764

>>10421759
Black cops are not some "exception." It seems that in many areas, the cops are disproportionately white compared to the community they serve, but in some areas they will make up 90% to even 100% of the local police force...

>> No.10421765

>>10421704
Oof. I hope things work out. Loneliness seems to be worse for people on the spectrum.

Iirc there's an adult version of the Best Buddies program called Best Buddies Citizen.

>> No.10421770

>>10421763

I don't always quote what I reply to, I assume you can read your own writing.

You said black people blame you for slavery and that invalidates the argument that black people shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of other black people.

I am black and don't blame modern white people, so...what is your answer to that? The argument can't be invalidated based on your false assumption of black people's thoughts. If we don't all blame you, then you can't blame all of us for the ones who are criminals or do things wrong either.

>> No.10421771

>>10421764
Are you genuinely arguing that because some black areas don't have enough whites to hire to make a mostly white police force, there isn't racism?
Is that seriously what your argument has become torn down to?

>> No.10421773

>>10421760
Tbh i hope everyone needlessly breaking quarantine dies off. The world will be so much better once the trash has taken itself out

>> No.10421776

>>10421756
Ntayrt, but it's pretty disproportionate. Yeah it's better than 10 years ago, but still overwhelmingingly white and male, unfortunately. One of the elephants in the room is accountability. While there are good law enforcers, they tend to eat shit if the become whistle-blowers.

This subject is important to talk about, but we are way off topic.

Anyway, idk what I miss more: my lolita friends or what my health used to be before the pandemic.

I'm getting fb memories from old meets and going: ahh yes back when we used to have irl meets and I didn't have underlying health problems

>> No.10421777

>>10421760
If you honestly think that covid19 is anything but a nothing burger then how come no one in my vicinity has got it yet? I went to all the protests, i still went out when I was supposed to stay inside, I still go to bars, I still do all the shit that I did before, and guess what? Nothing has happened. No one around me has got sick, no one has died, and no one has shown a single one of the supposed 100k+ plus bodies that have died of this.

>> No.10421780

>>10421777
>how come no one in my vicinity has got it yet?
Well, "taste" is real too

>> No.10421781

>>10421770
>You said black people blame you for slavery and that invalidates the argument that black people shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of other black people
I never said that they should be. I don't, care about black people enough to blame them for anything.

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>>10421748
Different anon here to answer this question. Peaceful protests actually have been happening for decades. There were several this year before the George Floyd incident but chances aare you never heard about them. The problem is that they get ignored and no one cares. Police even crack down on these peaceful protests as well. Now that things are getting violent we are suddenly seeing a wave of new laws going through. I would rather things be peaceful as well but the problem is, it doesn't work.

>> No.10421785

>>10421777
you do realize it’s only like that because responsible people have been staying home. Thing is that retards like you don’t care until their corpses are stacking up and it will be too late.

>> No.10421787

>>10421784
Fucking this
Anyone else remember when the football man got banned? Christ

>> No.10421789

>>10421785
I actually wouldn't care even if there was piles of bodies because none of them were forced to go outside. They made their choice.

>> No.10421794

>>10421687
Here's a good video for you to check out why blacks have worse life than Asians (and Irish and Italians even tho they created the early crime scene of the US). It's really ignorant to say "why don't blacks just educate themselves and get money in legal ways?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psf_rK8DIcs

>> No.10421798

>>10421653
It irritates me to fucking no end. Like, the issue isn't that big and by you spouting this virtue signalling performative tripe you're only giving more light to an issue that really isn't an issue.

>> No.10421799

>>10421681
what the fuck he was talking about why the image quality is low why are you reeing over a black girl drawing

>> No.10421800

>>10421798
>being murdered isn't an issue
just

>> No.10421801

>>10421784
>using a lolita meme for this sjw bullshit
you do know east asians fucking hate blacks, right? yet you partake in their fashions and support their brands. fuck off pls

>> No.10421802

>>10421798
I think it’s tacky as fuck that these basic white girls now suddenly care obsessively about black people/black culture. Racism and police brutality did not just show up on the news last month. These assholes are the same mindless crowd that bandwagons all the autistic shit in the past decade, too, ponies/Homestuck/SU, etc.
Bonus points for the black people on Twitter posting openly racist shit against other minorities. What a dumpster fire.

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>>10421653
I'm black. While I'm glad some horrific things are being brought to light and discussed, I feel uncomfortable when my friends do things like check up on me because posts went around at the height saying black people need to be checked on, or when discussions happen people ask for my opinion, when I'm only online to look at stupid weeb posts. I don't want to feed into the idea of me falsely being more special than everyone else because of my skin color and it's a feeling I never had before online. When the Juneteenth stuff happened I felt massively uncomfortable. It was the first Juneteenth where it seemed like EVERYONE (who was black) was posting paypals/cashapps. But I can't express these feelings without causing a shitstorm I feel because I have a fair amount of followers and don't want to rock the boat. Not really a /cgl/ feel but my Twitter is /cgl/ related so...

>> No.10421804

>>10421800
I didn't say it wasn't an issue I said it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be, majority of the cases that BLM argue was injustice were either:

- Not injustice at all and the police did exactly what any reasonable person would have done in the situation

- The police did the wrong thing and the case was settled out of court

- The police did the wrong thing and the case went to court and the police were disciplined accordingly

- The police in the situation did not have all the necessary information and made an erroneous judgement call in hindsight

Adding to all of this supposed injustice, which majority of it isn't injustice or wasn't cruel enough to the people who recieved discipline. This study by Dr Fryer Jr found that white men are more like to have a firearm aimed at them by police than black men given the exact same set of circumstances.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

More white people are shot in the ratio of violent crime:population

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2

This isn't a major issue. The USA is a very large country with a lot of people interacting with the police everyday. There are going to be bad people who do bad things, that is just a statistic of reality. If you want to argue that smashing random particles together eventuates in an outlier, then you're not very bright. Focus your efforts elsewhere.

>> No.10421806

>>10421804
There have been five black people lynched in trees in the last two weeks of this year in the usa

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>>10421801
Yes, and...?

>> No.10421808

>>10421806
And? What does this mean? Give context and give your evidence.

You refuted absoltuely nothing I said.

>> No.10421809

>>10421807
and that means you directly support racists, so stfu

>> No.10421810

>>10421803
I remember years ago, at the start of the SJW trend, a friend that I had a falling-out with posted that she wanted some more POC friends because she no longer had any.
I’m a minority. It feels gross to be treated like an “other" or a fucking zoo animal by somebody who wants to use me to feel like a more virtuous human being. Ugh.

>> No.10421811

>>10421806
Those were ALL medically determined to be suicides. Take your sensationalist lies elsewhere.

>> No.10421813
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>>10421809
Do you sew your own clothes? Make your own furniture? Have an internet provider that you've screened for racists? You're awfully silly for getting worked up over memes.

>> No.10421814

>>10421804
How can you consider the police, supposedly our protectors, be this ready to murder us?
What is reasonable about killing anyone who's already been subdued? And don't act like I'm only talking about Floyd
How are you alright with the punishment for a police officer murdering a civilian is to be suspension or being fired?
If a civilian murders someone, that's certainly not the punishment, shouldn't the police be held to higher standards than civilians?
And that's not just in regard to race relations, the police will gun down whites on bodycam when they're on the ground too

>> No.10421815

>>10421813
>You're awfully silly for getting worked up
exactly how i feel about your sjw bullshit lmao

>> No.10421816

>>10421811

Nayrt it...I have never heard of suicides where people hang themselves from trees? For black men especially it seems weird given the historical context.

Not saying suicides are impossible, I've just never heard of ANY person hanging themselves from a tree these days. A distant friend of mine had depression and recently hung herself in her closet using her phone charger, and she is also black, so I know black suicides exist and people often miss signs, but it seems like a very specific form of suicide to be happening all of a sudden to one race group?

>> No.10421817

Why is it so hard to find a bf who's okay with lolita? Some of my comm members have bfs who are super supportive about lolita, or even helps them purchase dresses and I'm happy for them but can't help but feel jealous. I went on a couple dates this month, but it was clear they really only wanted one thing. I feel like I should just give up but I'm lonely

>> No.10421818

>>10421810
I hate being scrutinized for my race, it's such a tiny thing to be annoyed at because at least they're not being maliciously racist, but I even had my old cosplays dug up because everyone was doing some "lets gas up black cosplayers" thing and I didn't like that I was being retweeted simply for my skin color. So I'll bitch about it on /cgl/.

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>>10421815
Aight you do you boo

>> No.10421820

>>10421817
Honestly, I think the bfs who are okay with lolita probably already had a thing for it

>> No.10421821

>>10421817
Date Asians. Not Asian-Americans but actual Asians.

>> No.10421823

>>10421816
are you serious rn? there's an entire fucking forest in japan where people kill themselves like that. the context is that most of them were homeless and a tree was the easiest way to do it.

>> No.10421824

>>10421823
nayrt, the context here is black people in america, so

>> No.10421825

>>10421821
I'm Korean and Korean men aren't much better. Super conformist, can't wear lolita because it's not what every mainstream girl is wearing

>> No.10421826

>>10421823
Are you...comparing a suicide forest in Japan with the hanging of black people in America? I don't know if you're American or not but a black person hanging from a tree has some pretty heavy historical implications. A black person committing suicide the same way that whites in the past had killed them is very suspicious and ironic.

>> No.10421827

>>10421824
>>10421826
apparently neither of you know how to read. to quote op:
> I've just never heard of ANY person hanging themselves from a tree these days
>ANY person
>ANY

>> No.10421828

>>10421814
>How can you consider the police, supposedly our protectors, be this ready to murder us?
What do you mean "this ready"? I have friends who are police. They are no more prepared to kill someone than anyone else and I argue that most police are normal people.

What do you mean "murder"? Majority of the deaths weren't murders. The murderers were dealt with appropriately and make up such an insanely insigificant portion of murders. You're much more likely to be killed by a person close to you.

>What is reasonable about killing anyone who's already been subdued?

There is none. Hence why these people are being tried and disciplined by the courts.

>How are you alright with the punishment for a police officer murdering a civilian is to be suspension or being fired

What evidence are you presenting to prove this?

>If a civilian murders someone, that's certainly not the punishment, shouldn't the police be held to higher standards than civilians?

Of course but most normal civilians aren't usually put in situations which they have to make these split second decisions and so when instances of killing happen, people need to not lose their minds and let the justice system figure out what happened.

>And that's not just in regard to race relations, the police will gun down whites on bodycam when they're on the ground too
And?
Again what's your evidence?

>> No.10421829

>>10421825
Interesting. I've dated many Chinese and a few Japanese, all of them were already familiar with lolita and liked it.

>> No.10421830

>>10421826
>>10421824
>because it has historical implication therefore lets blame white people for what was medically determined as suicide

sounds like witch hunting to me becuase fucking white people amirite?

>> No.10421831

>>10421829
Lolita seems a lot more mainstream in China and Japan seems more open to street fashion so that makes sense, but yeah Korean men are some of the most conformist. Sorry if this is an intrusive question, but where do you meet them even? The international students at my school very much stick to their own groups.

>> No.10421832

>>10421831
Men in general are conformist, look to Japan with Kimonos and Yukatas. Women's are beautifully ornate with lots of colours and patterns. Men usually pick out black or dark blue.

It's masculine to be ascetic and prove yourself otherwise.

>> No.10421833

>>10421830
I'm just stating facts and given the current times it would not be suprising, especially 5 of them within two weeks. Had it been one or two you wouldn't see as many people bat an eye but 5 in such a short time span in such a specific way?

>> No.10421834

>>10421810
I cant even look at black people anymore without thinking about blm shit. Before all this started it was just another human, i honestly didn’t give two fucks about skin color. It feels like there is such a divide now.

>> No.10421835

>>10421827

Sorry I meant in America. I know of the suicide forest but that is an anomaly for suicidal behavior and why it stands out even in Japan. At least that is how Japanese people discuss it. They have told me train deaths are more common (one friend of mine told me the station displays the error code for train jumping suicides as "human accident").

But yeah I meant America. Sorry to do the American thing and assume people know I mean America but when speaking of black people and supposed possible lynchings in the south I assumed people would see the context.

>> No.10421836

>>10421831
I use dating apps.

>> No.10421837

>>10421833
No you're not stating facts. You're saying that these men were murdered and implying they were murdered by racist white people.

The facts as the other anon stated was that they were suicide as deemed by medical professionals. Unless you or someone you know is a coroner with access to the cadeavers, you do not have any facts to the contrary.

>but 5 in such a short time span in such a specific way?
You don't think that people don't hang themselves daily across the USA? Don't you think that given the current racial climate that the only reason you heard about these cases is because the media knows that it will stir up controversy and people like yourself will stir up racial drama because of the method which they chose to unforunately end their own life.

You're drawing conclusions based on evidence which doesn't exist to suit your agenda. Be more careful about jumping into conclusions.

>> No.10421838

>>10421835
So do you think all the medical examiners are just all lying racists or...?

>> No.10421839

>>10421834
Come on now don't generalize, that's cringe.

>> No.10421840

>>10421834

This sounds like a "you" problem.

I can look at white people just fine without being reminded of torture and slavery and stuff. Why can't white people see us as individuals separate from the activities of a different group of unaffiliated black people?

>> No.10421842

>>10421838

Like I said in my initial post I am not saying they weren't suicides or couldn't be. It just feels odd. People can meme the fuck out of Epstein the high profile pedo "killing himself" but fail to see the irony or why people find it strange that black men would hang themselves from trees?

>> No.10421843

>>10421840
NAYRT but I've explained this to my friends who find it just as annoying to constantly be associated with BLM is because BLM is all about black Lives. So that encompasses all black people. They claim to represent all black people, that includes you.

Guilt by association really. It's stupid yes but just give it another month or so.

>> No.10421844

>>10421842
>It just feels odd

You know, all these Jewish people in positions of high influence, power and prestige, it just feels odd you know...Hmmm whatever, I'll just go back to painting. Wow, Vienna sure is beautiful!

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>>10421777

>> No.10421846

>>10421833
First i’d look into how many people hang themselves on trees on any given day and go from there.

Also i’d consider martyrdoms as well. “I wanna end it already but If I kill myself in this one specific way for a cause I can create change and go down in history”

>> No.10421847

>>10421832
I meant Korean men are most conformist in regards to preferences in their women too. Have you been to south Korea in the winter? Everyone wears the same exact jacket. Everyone wears the same exact style. Everyone even gets the same plastic surgery. Everyone has the same beauty standard. Even getting a tattoo is still illegal there. I said Korean men since it was specific to my complaint, but really Korean people in general are conformist.

>> No.10421848

>>10421843

So you are basically pissed at unrelated people because of one group/movement? The Klan thinks their racism is bettering society and the advancement of white people; should I get mad and assume KKK association next time I see a white person because the racists claim to be in support of white lives or interests?

>> No.10421849

>>10421839
>>10421840
Isn’t this what all this BLM stuff wants? I am supposed to take note of my privilege elevate the poor blacks no?

>> No.10421850

>>10421842
it may be strange but science doesn't lie. the right question to be asking would be "why did these men kill themselves in this way? were they trying to send a message?" not a conspiracy theory that white people did it

>> No.10421851

>>10421834
Highly educated, successful black people are not involved in this shit and don't want to be associated with it, so please don't lump them in with the low life gangsters looting Targets.

>> No.10421852

>>10421849
I admit there are people who are forceful or violent or taking advantage of white people guilt with BLM but that doesn't mean we all suck just because others do, same way I won't think white people are all racist. Judge an individual's actions.

>> No.10421853

>>10421848
I'm not pissed. I don't really care. I'm explaining as to why others are getting pissed at you. Like I said give it a month, it will blow over. Just avoid social media and just hang out with your normal friends.

Also KKK is nowhere near the level of BLM neither in scope or goal, calm down the false equivalence.

>> No.10421854

>>10421817
What styles do you wear? I've dated a couple of girls who wore lolita and I'm pretty into it, classic or "mild" gothic are pretty much the most attractive things a girl can wear in my book (at least the most attractive that won't get you a public indecency charge), but super frilly pastel sweet shit weirds me out a bit.

>> No.10421855

>>10421846

I assume most decent people wouldn't want to take a hate crime in general because of the problems and distrust it causes when real ones happen, I imagine many suicidal people see themselves as a burden or needing to end suffering; creating controversy or long term harm to black people by taking a hate crime doesn't seem like it would remove the perceived burden or suffering.

>> No.10421856

>>10421836
ntayrp but what apps are successful in finding people to actually date? i tried tinder for a week but even the guys who had a good conversation through text really just wanted sex

>> No.10421857

>>10421817
I'm fine with lolita. Never seen a wild lolita but I like a girl who has a passion for such a unique hobby.

It'd be nice to find a girl who isn't just
>I love dogs
>I love travelling
>I love food
>I love netflix

>> No.10421858

>>10421856
Sorry to break this to you, but dating usually involves sex. Try Christian Mingle maybe.

>> No.10421859

>>10421855
Most people who commit suicide aren't of sound mind. Don't try to evaluate their thought processes.

>> No.10421860

>>10421854
>super frilly pastel sweet shit
Yep, that's exactly what I wear, unfortunately. Can't help what you love though

>> No.10421861

>>10421837
With the amount of hate I've been seeing and judging by the family's accounts I don't trust it but that's always the case isn't it? When something doesn't seem right we're just supposed to accept it like we always have.

>> No.10421862

>>10421858
i never said i didn't want to have sex while dating someone, i meant men just wanted sex in a one night stand, and not wanting to actually date

>> No.10421863

>>10421853

Either you or someone else said they can't look at a black person without thinking of it and based on most people it someone saying that probably finds HIM annoying and is upset by the thought of it. Meaning...looking at black people makes them feel negatively or upset based purely on their skin color?

>> No.10421867

>>10421859
>Don't try to evaluate their thought processes.
Isn't this the very same thought process of why mental health isn't taken seriously?

>> No.10421868

>>10421861
You're spouting conspiracies.

Agian unless you are a coroner with access to the cadaevers, your opinion doesn't mean anything. If you think they weren't suicides, give your evidence other than "It doesn't FEEL right." I hate to say this meme but facts don't care about your feelings.

Unless you think these doctors are somehow involved in some nationwide conspiracy to lynch 5 (five) black people because that surely will teach those damn darkies amirite white neighbours? Why would they ever report to have found them hanging on a tree? Why not just report drug overdose? Why not erotic asyphixiation?

Just please think a little harder.

>> No.10421871

>>10421850

No one is tinfoiling that white people are behind black suicides. Just that the timing and methods are suspicious, strange, connected to traumatic or awful historical events in a way that seems weird for black men to recreate with such a specific suicide method.

>> No.10421872

>>10421867
What? That makes no sense. My point is, don't try to evaluate someones thoughts when they are mentally ill, they are not rational and do not make sense. Hence mentally ill. These people require professional help to evaluate their thoughts, not anonymous internet conjecture.

>> No.10421873

>>10421863

*BLM, not HIM. Sorry, phoneposting.

>> No.10421874

>>10421860
Yeah, I could see that maybe being an issue. I like some sweet stuff but there's a point where it feels a bit too much like ageplay to me or whatever. Honestly, though, it probably wouldn't stop me if I liked a girl otherwise, it's not my style but it's still infinitely better than the default boring shit 99% of women wear and a girl who wears ANY form of lolita is much more likely to share at least some of my interests etc. than an average girl on Tinder or whatever.

>> No.10421875

>>10421871
It's only weird becasue you think it's weird.

Why can't a black guy who has a rope kill himself via hanging without someone thinking he was lynched? Not everything has a deeper meaning. It's connecting the Columbine Shooters to Marilyn Manson, sure you can make a connection, its fucking incomprehensible if you ignore all the other evidence, but it exists you want it to exist.

>> No.10421876

>>10421863
I'm not that anon. But give it time, a month or so. It's irrational but not unreasonable to understand that maybe all the looting and rioting and white guilting has left a bitter tase in some people's mouth.

Anon knows it's wrong but the brain does stupid things. Give it time to normalise. You're in the right.

>> No.10421879

>>10421875

I NEVER said they were lynched. That's a different anon. I just said it's weirdly ironic that someone would kill themselves the same way black people USED TO get murdered when in the US hanging from trees hasn't been publicized as a common suicide method.

Never denied medical evidence or spouted a conspiracy. If anything my concern is WHY the men did it when they knew it would be seen strangely. And what circumstances pushed then to be suicidal. Suicide isn't purely mental illness. Recessions for example leas to more suicides sometimes because of uncertainty or feelings of failure and inability to meet needs. Fear of things, chronic or long term pain, etc...my bigger issue is with what concerns the men in question had to drive them all to specific types of suicide so soon after one another. Wondering about coincidences is not the same as supporting crockpot theories.

>> No.10421880

>>10421879
>I NEVER said they were lynched. That's a different anon.

Gotta add that NYART.

>hasn't been publicized as a common suicide method.
There's the problem. The media brought it to light because it's topical. I'd love to see the general statistics on death by hanging from tree. Before all of this, how often would a low-profile suicide make the news? I'd argue never.

>> No.10421881

>>10421861
Those families gonna be making bank with cashapp on their already lost loved ones. Can’t blame them, might as well make some gainz out if that loss

>> No.10421882

>>10421868
>nationwide conspiracy
Isn't that why these protests are happening? Because the national system is fucked up? I'm just saying I can see why people are suspicious. But it's whatever. Best to take it like it is and question nothing. Trust the authorities, they only have good intentions.
>>10421875
>Why can't a black guy who has a rope kill himself via hanging without someone thinking he was lynched?
Because they were from trees and America has a history with this specific type of death for this specific type of race.

>> No.10421885

>>10421882
Yes. These protesting are occuring because people are running with these conspiracies which you are propogating with zero evidence. The police seem like this macination of the government designed to systematically exterminate black people if you believe everything BLM says.

> I'm just saying I can see why people are suspicious
Yes, I would be wearing my tinfoil hat as well if I ignored all scientific rigour too.

>Trust the authorities, they only have good intentions.
Strawman.

>Because they were from trees and America has a history with this specific type of death for this specific type of race.
Thanks for the recap. Doesn't address the point. You're a tinfoil hat wearing retard.

>> No.10421886

>>10421857
there are fucktons of nerdy chicks out there with "unique interests" you just don't notice because they're not the pretty ones

>> No.10421887

>>10421862
>Expecting good dating advice on cgl
>Expecting even slightly conservative dating advice on cgl
There’s girls here that have probably blown the guy before they enter the restaurant on the first date. Online dating, even Christian dating, is full of fucking weirdos.

>> No.10421888

>>10421886
true but don't be coy by acting like physical attraction isn't important, I'm not asking for a unicorn just a pretty girl who is interesting

>> No.10421889

>>10421687
Wasn't it already proven that a majority of the violence started at these protests came from undercover cops?

>> No.10421892

>>10421856
If you're going to use Tinder for dating, you need to write "NO HOOKUPS" as the very first thing in your profile, and make sure none of your pics are the least bit sexually suggestive. Also ask "what are you looking for here?" within the first few messages. There are plenty of men looking for actual girlfriends on there but you need to be very clear.

>> No.10421893

>>10421723
They can have their own protests, why do black people always have to represent everyone?

>> No.10421894

>>10421861
literally every parent of a person who commits suicide "can't believe they did that!!!!"

same with parents of school shooters

people don't actually know their children very well

>> No.10421895

>>10421888
that is asking a lot lmao

>> No.10421896

>>10421895
fuck

>> No.10421900

>>10421896
there is a saying that good looking people never have to develop real personalities because they get by entirely on looks, and i have found it very true for both genders

>> No.10421901

>>10421900
I think myself attractive (based on the looks of my previous partners and hook ups) and that makes me nervous that I don't have a personality.

>> No.10421903

>>10421901
you are here, which means you're into either cosplay or lolita, and that's lightyears away from basic people. there are exceptions to every rule

>> No.10421904

>>10421888
why are all the guys who say stuff like this generally really ugly and trying to punch way above their weight. attractive guys have no problem finding pretty and interesting girls and don't come to complain about it on the chans.

>> No.10421905

>>10421886
nta but I think a lot of girls on dating sites hide their real interests and post the most generic shit they have because they think it'll give them the best chance or something. I have pretty modest standards, especially if a girl has qualities other than appearance that appeal to me, and I still see VERY few women on dating sites with profiles that are anything but the "default" of travel pic, hiking pic, dog pic, and a sentence or two about liking food.

>> No.10421906

>>10421828
But they aren't being tried in court, at least not until whatever flavor protest of the week makes it mainstream.

Or are you seriously forgetting about how most cop-lead investigations end in "we found nothing wrong"

>> No.10421907

>>10421906
Give me a statistic and the evidence.

>> No.10421908

>>10421905
>travel pic, hiking pic, dog pic, and a sentence or two about liking food
you just described most of the male profiles as well. most people of both genders are just super basic

>> No.10421909

>>10421904
add me on discord bb and ill do a face reveal to prove im not completely ugly

>> No.10421912

>>10421907
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/18/us/police-involved-shooting-cases/index.html

>> No.10421913

>>10421912
>35% were convicted, while the rest were pending or not convicted, according to work by Philip Stinson, an associate professor of criminal justice at Bowling Green State University in Ohio.

So what's your point?

>> No.10421916

>>10421909
drop your discord then

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>>10421885
I don't even trust what BLM says as they have been a group I've disliked for years. Regardless when it comes to evidence it's always been difficult to prove up until recent years where we can now record everything and lo and behold. What people have been saying about the police for generations has been proven right. As for suicide statistics it's difficult to find recent information but because of recent events you can bet it will crop up in the coming weeks. All I can find is 2017 suicide rates and the conclusion is pretty obvious; Black people are least likely to commit suicide and firearms are the most used option compared to white people. 5 from a tree in two weeks when last year I could only find 2 reports of black people hanging from trees raises eyebrows.

>> No.10421918

>>10421917
>What people have been saying about the police for generations has been proven right

No it hasn't. Personally in all my research about each of the cases the vast majority were justified. A few were not, but settled out of court. Another few were not and the officers were convicted.

I think I remember reading only 1 or 2 that were complete bullshit. If you can provide me a bunch of reading material that suggests that majority of police shooting of black people was just straight murder, I'd be very interested.

>> No.10421921

>>10421916
imnotugly#0217

>> No.10421922

>>10421908
Yeah that wouldn't surprise me at all, I mostly hang out with nerds and 90% of the dudes I know are still basic as fuck. I wish dating sites weren't so overrun by vapid normies, I've been trying Hinge and it seems a bit better than others but still hard to find people who don't seem super basic to me.

Honestly, cons are the only place dating ever worked for me. It's the only time I get a chance to meet a lot of girls who share my interests and general frame of reference and I think I'm a lot better in person than in photos or text. It's just gotten hard to meet new people at them in the last few years and now we're in the year of no cons so I'm resorting to dating sites but it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

>> No.10421925

>>10421918
Oh I'm not talking about black shooting specifically, I'm talking about police brutality in general for everyone. My only racial argument is with the hangings hence why is said "what people have been saying" and not "what black people have been saying." And to find information on that just look at all the recent videos of police beating, shooting and spraying down peaceful protestors or even just people around the area that have nothing to do with it. Shooting at people on their front porch, shooting a homeless man in the eye, drive by pepper spray of people holding up signs on a highway, etc. My own parent who is now a retired cop told me all about the shit that went down in our town alone. How cops with bad records while fired from one county can easily be hired in another, how they have protected pedophiles because they were football players, and how they would specifically target black people for traffic tickets.

>> No.10421926

>>10421704
>She also used to see a regular therapist normally but didn't see much improvement since I believe her main concern right now is her social life, and the thing stopping people from wanting to be friends with her is her "weird personality"

A therapist who specializes in autism could help address your sister's social skills.

Have you looked into autism support groups online or offline? There are definitely a lot of aspies online, so I'm curious why you think your sister has't connected with any of them.

>> No.10421927

>>10421925
I would argue that police brutality isn't an big issue either. Yes it certainly exists but is a massive problem that is tearing at the fabric of the country? No.

There are much larger problems that require and should have all the attention police brutality gets put onto them.

Police brutality just gets the spotlight because it's just always topical.

As for corruption, that comes with power. It's the essence of humans and I do think there should be a larger authority that manages corruption.

>> No.10421933

>>10421927
Police brutality is spotlighted because it's something the common person gets hit with directly and is one of the few things the public understands, can now prove and tries to stop. The bigger issues are near impossible for your neighborhood to do anything about because they require learning the absurd legal system and having a stupid amount of money to even hope to fight against and even then it's still hard. Child trafficking? Corperations dipping thier hands into politics? The media? Drugs? Money and weapons passing between countries? Jeff down the street can't do anything about that nor is directly hurt by it. But Jeff can be pulled over, have drugs planted on him and then have his life ruined just like that.

>> No.10421935

>>10421933
This is why I state that corruption is something that needs to be focussed on than brutality.

>> No.10421937

Most of the lolitas I know in long term relationships are with people who were weebs before they met. They get exposed to a lot of weird shit so lolita doesn't seem so strange to them. I've found that real Asians don't like lolita because it draws too much negative attention especially when they consider how their family and friends will react to seeing you but ymmv. So find some weebs to date at an anime club or Japanese language class.

>> No.10421957

>>10421937
Maybe cons too, but it's gotten kind of awkward meeting people there. I always found room parties the easiest way to meet people but I don't really know how to find the good ones anymore. Hell I guess if nothing else you could check out a /cgl/ gathering, I've been pleasantly surprised at the people I've met at them.

>> No.10421970

>>10421935
Can you focus on both and one is way more tangible you absolute ass-miser

>> No.10421974

>>10421970
You can but I'd rather we focus most of our efforts on the tsunami rather than the leaking tap.

>> No.10421979

>>10421974
>Easier and quicker to fix a leaking tap

>Cant do shit about a tsunami

Suck that cop's dick more

>> No.10421980

>>10421979
>No point fixing the leaking tap when your going to die via tsunami.

Stay angry at your pointless run about.

>> No.10421987

>>10421935
What are you doing? Because I'd like to help but I lack money and education.

>> No.10421988

>>10421987
Voting for the right people, discussing the issue with people close to me in a non-prick way if they want to learn. Most people don't like police brutality but they don't understand the underlying cause is corruption.

There's honeslty not a whole lot you need to do, just vote and speak to people who want to listen. If you feel something is corrupt, get the evidence you need, don't go to the police, go to your local member of government (whatever that may be) and follow up on it. If things don't progress, go to the media.

>> No.10421995

>>10421988
voting is pointless due to the electoral college

>> No.10421998

>>10421988
So....the same thing a lot of protestors are doing? Just saw how they locked out some folks from voting today in Jefferson county.

>> No.10421999

>>10421998
Yes looting a Target will definitely result in decreased police corruption.

>> No.10422000

>>10421999
I said protestors and you immediately went to rioters. Doesn't that say something when you automatically assume they are the same?

>> No.10422002

>>10422000
It can say whatever you want it to say, but a large portion of people associate the rioters with the protestors regardless of their actual associations. So my point is that no, the protestors aren't doing anything except harming the situation.

>> No.10422003

>>10421680
This made me so sad anon, but she's at least lucky to have a sister who cares about her so much. It probably means more to her than you'd think. I don't have any advice but I really hope things get better for her.

>> No.10422004

>>10421999
The whole incident with Target was because the peaceful protestors got sprayed down by the police and when some went to target to get milk, target refused to sell to them. Folks with burning eyes and skin got pissed and tore the place up.

>> No.10422005

>>10422004
The Target is one instance among many destructive instances and regardless of what actually happened given that most accounts are heresay, the public perception of the events is what counts when you are trying to shift public policy.

>> No.10422006

>>10422002
So all the new laws and regulations that came about because of this is harming the situation?

>> No.10422007

>>10422004
businesses legally have the right to refuse service to anyone. not an excuse for those people to commit a violent crime. it wasn't just one target either

>> No.10422008

>>10421999
Why did you switch the subject from voting to Target?

>> No.10422011

>>10422006
I would say the fact that many cities police are outright refusing to go out to calls given the new laws and regulations and people's major contempt for the police is harming the situation.

>>10422008
To demonstrate that the protestors aren't doing anything to prevent police corruption.

>> No.10422012

>>10422007
So it was "right" that target refused them service? Isn't that an example of the corruption of power you were speaking of before?

>> No.10422016

>>10422012
NAYRT but how is that corruption? A business doesn't want protestors and police dragging themselves into their business and causing problems, that's not corruption.

>> No.10422017

>>10422011
>Voting for the right people
Protestors are trying to vote but they got locked out.
>They looted a Target
Target refused them service
>Target has the right to do so

>> No.10422019

>>10422017
>Protestors are trying to vote but they got locked out.
I can't comment on the issue since I'm not aware of the laws or situation.

>Target refused them service
read >>10422016

>> No.10422020

>>10422016
There is no dragging. The people went in to purchase a product and got refused. Had they just sold the product like normal nothing would have happened but instead they got involved by refusing service.

>> No.10422021

>>10422012
i'm nta and no, it's a legal right that all businesses have. i wouldn't want to serve potential violent criminals either, which is exactly what those people ended up being anyway.

>> No.10422023

>>10422020
>business exercises their legal right in which any sane person would have done the same
>that means they deserve to have their property destroyed and stolen!!!!

>> No.10422024

>>10422020
>Had they just sold the product like normal nothing would have happened but instead they got involved by refusing service.

Prove it. No business deserves to be completely gutted because they refused service to a hoard of protestors who had already had run ins with the police. You're literally victim blaming the business.

>It's your fault your place of employment got ransacked, you lost your job and thousands of people in community will go without because you tried to stay out of the issue

>> No.10422026

>>10422020
Lol @ saying this as if a fuckton of other businesses didn't get looted even though they were closed and no one was even there! Rioters will riot no matter what.

>> No.10422027

>>10422021
Peaceful protestors are automatically assumed to be violent criminals? Do you not hear yourself or see the problem with this? If you've been sprayed down with pepper spray and try to get some relief and the store tells you no, are you going to nod your head, smile, and go to the next store? Then get told the same thing?
>>10422023
They don't but when people are in pain and you're refusing to help when they ask, people are going to get upset. That's any race and why these civil disputes happen and have happened in the past.

>> No.10422030

>>10422027
>are you going to nod your head, smile, and go to the next store?
i'm sure as hell not going to steal and destroy property under any circumstances. there's no excuse for that. target had no reason to know or believe that these were peaceful protesters rather than rioters. and they WERE rioters in the end so target was 100% in the right.

>> No.10422031

>>10422027
>If you've been sprayed down with pepper spray and try to get some relief and the store tells you no, are you going to nod your head, smile, and go to the next store? Then get told the same thing?

Yes. Because that's the fucking law. If I run into someones house and ask if I can buy their milk, they say no and to get out of their house, do I have the right to burn their house down even if I'm in pain?

Your saying that people should just give in to every demand someone makes on threat of arson? That's terrorism.

You're also pretending like only one Target got looted and destroyed and not hundreds to thousands of other business. Did every single one of these business also deny their service for fucking milk and deserved to get gutted ruining the owners and employees lives, perhaps permanently?

You're a piece of shit. If I owned a store front business and protestors of any political affiliation tried to gain access, I would deny them simply to avoid polticising my business and disturbing my customers. Do I deserve my livelihood to be destroyed because of this stance of neutrality and wanting to have a peaceful day?

>> No.10422041

>>10422024
>Prove it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgme.com/amp/news/local/protesters-say-portland-dunkin-donuts-refused-to-serve-somali-woman

Somali woman refused service. People protested. Nothing was burned down. You're not going to see much outside of this because protests rarely get that bad and businesses aren't refusing services to them.
>>10422031
You can't compare someone's house with a place of business. The only reason I'm even talking about target is because the anon I was speaking with brought it up and deflected from the voting issue to change the subject. You also forget that there were cops and opertunitist taking advantage of the situation that had nothing to do with protesting and joined in on rioting.

No one deserves to have their livilihood destroyed but no one should have to be refused service and suffer pain. There's a reason why we have laws against discrimination for businesses. You're putting business before the people and that's part of what's wrong with America.

>> No.10422042

>>10422041
I'm not even going to open it because I can see
>Protestors say

Heresay is not evidence.

>> No.10422045

>>10422042
The point of the article was that people protested because of refusal of service and nothing was burned down or detroyed as an answer to your "prove it."

>> No.10422047

>>10422041
>You can't compare someone's house with a place of business.

Why not?

>You also forget that there were cops and opertunitist taking advantage of the situation that had nothing to do with protesting and joined in on rioting.
And? They're also pieces of shit.

>No one deserves to have their livilihood destroyed but no one should have to be refused service and suffer pain.

So which is it? Becuase those two are evidently mutually exclusive.

>>10422045
That has nothing to do with Target. I want you to prove to me that the Target would have been spared if they had given them milk since that's what you claimed.

>> No.10422050

>>10422047
>Why not?
Because a business (like target) is open to the public and thrives off customers. It has it's own specific laws and regulations about serving people. Your home is your personal space. A business has a purpose to serve people with what they provide.
>And? They're also pieces of shit.
Yet you loop them in with the people fighting for a cause.

>I want you to prove to me that the Target would have been spared if they had given them milk since that's what you claimed.
Because there would be no reason to get upset with that business. They would be too busy trying to rub out the pepper spray. Had they been going to target to hide out from the police and just sit there, then I would agree with you necause they would not be in the store to buy anything. You're asking for something you know is impossible to prove other than habits of people based on other protests which you refuse to acknowledge.

Businesses should stay neutral when it comes to political affairs and only step in when there is harm coming to their business. Buying milk causes no harm and gives the business more money, serving it's purpose.

>> No.10422065

>>10422050
>Because a business (like target) is open to the public and thrives off customers. It has it's own specific laws and regulations about serving people. Your home is your personal space. A business has a purpose to serve people with what they provide.

So where in that reasoning is it okay to destroy a business for not giving you what you want vs a private home?

>Yet you loop them in with the people fighting for a cause.
Where?

>Because there would be no reason to get upset with that business.
Being upset with a business does not give you right to destroy it.

Give me evidence not conjecture.

>Businesses should stay neutral when it comes to political affairs and only step in when there is harm coming to their business.

So Target beliving harm was coming to there business, stayed nuetral and turned them away. Whcih resulted in rioting.

So?

>Buying milk causes no harm and gives the business more money, serving it's purpose.
How is target supposed to know that protestors who turned out to be rioters at the slightest provocation knew they wouldn't be rioters anyway?

Stop defending what is illegal arson

>> No.10422076

>>10422065
>So where in that reasoning is it okay to destroy a business for not giving you what you want vs a private home?
I never said it was okay but the business is stupid for making the situation worse, like poking a hornet's nest.
>Where?
Might have gotten you mixed up with the other anon who assumed that protestors are automatically violent when it's been a mix with opertunists, cops, and rioters for the sake of rioting.

>Being upset with a business does not give you right to destroy it.
You seem to keep thinking that I think it should.
>So Target beliving harm was coming to there business, stayed nuetral and turned them away. Whcih resulted in rioting.
How is people coming in to buy something make someone believe harm was coming their way?
>How is target supposed to know that protestors who turned out to be rioters at the slightest provocation knew they wouldn't be rioters anyway?
Because people crying and in pain are coming into their store to buy something. If they came in with a gun up to their head or threating the employees or knocking shit over and causing a riot at the start, the store has every right to deny them. If they are coming in to buy something then just assume they are going to cause trouble based on how they look...well...that's how a lot of this these problems start. Treat people equally.

Remember this started as a peaceful protest until the cops started throwing tear gas.

>> No.10422082

>>10422076
This is pointless. Have a nice day.

>> No.10422084

>>10422082
You too, get some sleep or get ready for work.

>> No.10422085

please nuke this thread

>> No.10422090

>Feels thread hits limit within ten hours

Aw man.

Oh well, I'm happy since I finally ordered a dress. Ever since 2020 went to hell I've been holding my money tight, but I finally found a dress which made me open up again. I'm so excited to try it on!

>> No.10422099
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10422099

>take out cosplay out of the closet
>still smells like my crush from when they spent all that time hugging me at last con half a year ago
>smells like their cologne
>smells like them
>will never see them again
>they're engaged now
>spend lonely hard nights crying hugging my cosplay refusing to wear it again

>> No.10422138

>>10421995

Nayrt but you can vote for more than President. You can vote for local officials with a direct impact on your community. As well as vote on local propositions for change.

>> No.10422140

>>10421749
I love when white people say this as if black people actually call the cops like Karens do

>> No.10422141

>>10422099
Move on anon, they can't be so great they're worth crying that hard over when they're not even sparing you a second thought.

>> No.10422143

>>10422099
>>10422141
This
Wash it and wear it again for social media sharing or sell it

>> No.10422147

>>10422140
>Only white people call the police

This is a new one.

>> No.10422149

>>10422147
If you've ever lived in a majority black community you'd know that blacks seldom call the police for obvious reasons

>> No.10422155

>>10422149
Because they're ignorant and dont understand how law enforcement works and actual statistics of the police brutality and murder then complain that their streets are crime ridden and its somehow white people's fault that they live in generational poverty creating ghettos?

>> No.10422160

>>10422155
Ok /pol/tard

>> No.10422161

>>10422155
>i know more about black people's experiences with police than black people

>> No.10422162

>>10422160
>Everyone I dont like is literally Hitler

>> No.10422165

>>10422161
>I take anecdotal expeience over scientific study when I make my public policy decisions because that always leads to the best outcome

>> No.10422166

>>10422155
>mfw my racist black neighbor used to call the cops all the time for stupid shit in the area, always on other minorities and not the black families
>He always got A++ service, sometimes they'd stay outside talking and laughing for half an hour
He finally died of lung cancer after using the cops to hassle people for 20 years.

>> No.10422168

>>10422165
>Again, need I remind you that I'm white, and I am an expert on black experiences

>> No.10422169

>>10422155
>not relying on the police for everything makes you ignorant
You're pulling reasons out of your ass to hate black people

>> No.10422170

I hate this thread because I'm tired of talking about white people and black people and I just want ONE corner of the internet to not be infected by this conversation.

Can we have a new feels thread and not start it with BLM?

>> No.10422171

>>10422170
You can try but the second even one person mentions it, 20 other people will take the bait. I think it's futile.

>> No.10422172

>>10422168
>You need to be black to understand statistics

Anti-intellectualism

>>10422169
Straw man. Race baiting.

>> No.10422173
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10422173

>>10422170
It can't be fucking stopped. I'm forced to see it everywhere, some dumb bitch speaking on behalf of all non-white people, lumping them together in some horrible bucket and saying some crazy shit about what's right and what's wrong, with a bunch of people in the comments asking her if x is okay to do, and her responding as if she's a fucking reputable source and not a random asshole who didn't care at all about racial discrimination a month ago.

>> No.10422174

Can’t wait for this thread to fucking die so we can have a real feels thread

>> No.10422175

>>10422172
>Straw man. Race baiting.
You're the one race baiting by claiming black people are ignorant for not calling the police

>> No.10422176

>>10422174
We can never have a real feels thread again and we were barely able to before

>> No.10422178

>>10422011
So the cops refusing to do their job because the bad ones got held accountable are the protesters fault? Any other job where you fuck up you get fired or reprimanded, but cops get a pass.

Now that some standards are being applied they're acting all pissy

>> No.10422180

>>10421715
Please try to keep in mind that the cameras are new. The brutality is not.

>> No.10422181

>>10421748
MLK fought for justice peacefully and was still assassinated. Don’t be that naive to think peace is the way to equality for any minority in this country. A country that was stolen from minorities, and built by minorities and continues to break them and their communities down. I’d also encourage you to look up how Chinese immigrants were treated in this country when they were forcefully brought here to build some of our railroads in the west and they too fought like hell. Go read a book please.

>> No.10422184

>>10422178
Cops are refusing to do their jobs because the restrictions put their lives in danger. You wouldn't go to work if some asshole fucked up and now your job is more dangerous.

>> No.10422185

>>10422181
>it's still the 20th century

Wait...no it isn't.

>> No.10422188

>>10422170

I started the thread and requested CGL related feels. Then everything immediately exploded into BLM...*sigh*

>> No.10422189

>>10422175
Yeah I am. Because you claim that black people dont call the police because police = bogeyman when most statistics do not represent that.

So they are ignorant of the statistics because they perpetuate a culture of us vs them meaning they wont utilise LE which would improve their communities. Encouraging criminal behaviour given lack of consequence, encouraging poverty encouraging more us vs them mentality etc.

>> No.10422190

>>10422181
You're basically saying the only way forward is indiscriminate violence.

>> No.10422298

If I have video/screenshot proof that my friend kept pressuring me into sex for weeks before I gave in, how big of a chance is there of me being cancelled in case I piss her off for whatever reason and she wants to be a piece of shit?

Am male btw, friend also has a crew of orbiters who want to smash her so they'd likely have my head if she wanted to sic them on me.

>> No.10422305

>>10422298
Depends on how big she is and how much dirt she has on you, frankly. If she's the sort of person who's shitty enough to pressure you into sex, she's shitty enough to use anything she has to get out of trouble for it.

Still, if you feel able and you're willing to accept the heat that may come your way from beta orbiters, you should call her out. This kind of behaviour seems to be all too common in the cosplay community from both men and women and people need to realise that it's not okay regardless of gender. You'll probably find that most men won't support you because they're simping too hard, but if your proof is strong enough you'll be able to win non-cumbrains over. I'm sorry that happened to you, anon, and I hope you're okay.

>> No.10422310

>>10422298
I don't have anything to add to >>10422305 but damn, why are you two even friends? Time to start formulating an exit plan.

>> No.10422317

>>10422000
>>10422002
protestors keep the police force busy while looters can go bananas. Regardless of doing this on purpose or not. They are the same fucking lot by association.

>> No.10422319

>>10422298
what is your end goal in dragging her down (with you)? Are you willing to commit social seppuku over this?
Also "pressuring into sex" sounds a bit vague, what were the circumstances? Sounds like a big deal outta nothing unless there's some taboo aspect (underage/rape)

>> No.10422330

>>10422166
Ok so realistically, the black neighbours were blasting music every single night up to 3 am and later and did not respond to a legitimately friendly note asking if they could please turn it down in the future. I worked graveyard shifts and sleep was extremely treasured. What on EARTH do you do if not call the cops? Shit on their doorstep?

>> No.10422367

>>10421589
What do lolitas do in the summer when it gets really hot? Do you still wear a blouse, jsk, petti and underwear always?

>> No.10422369

Well any black she-anons here since this is a topic ?

>> No.10422371

>>10422369
I'd venture to say most black people don't give nearly as much of a shit about this stuff as virtue-chasing white girls

>> No.10422385

>>10422369
Yes. And I think you should all kill yourselves for not staying in your containment board and endlessly shitting up a thread on a cosplay and lolita hobbyboard instead.

>> No.10422388

>>10422369
Yes, why?

>> No.10422390

>>10422388
You can't be black

>> No.10422395

>>10422390
Well, ok then.

>> No.10422397

>>10422395
thank you for understanding

>> No.10422404

>>10422367
As a gothic/oldschool lolita I like to wear a thin lace shawl over my jsk if I’m going blouseless, I also go for blouse-and-skirt combos more often that I wear jsks, just to reduce the amount of layers, and never wear polyester blouses, only short sleeved cotton or viscose. My legwear tends to be fishnet stockings or ankle socks and I wear heels or short chunky flat shoes, not boots. I don’t own a hoop skirt but I hear a lot of people say they help, too! For me I just wear super loose COTTON shorts/bloomers under my skirts and that keeps my thighs from getting sweaty. You can make it work, anon!

>> No.10422409

>>10422404
Thanks, I will look into trying a hoop skirt and paying attention to materials, the cotton is a great suggestion!

>> No.10422414

>>10422409
Honestly I’d say that making sure you’re wearing breathable fabrics makes the biggest deal and is an underrated suggestion! You’ll be in a puddle by the end of the day if you’re cramming a slim-fitting high-necked ruffled blouse made of plastic underneath your angelic pretty also-polyester jsk, you know? Glad I could help!

>> No.10422428

>>10421752
one can only dream

>> No.10422437

>tfw with minimal effort and a $25 trip to the pawn shop and the thrift store I could look like I walked out of Hell's Kitchen or Southie in the '70s/'80s
>tfw Westies-kei isn't a thing
>tfw there are no anime about Irish-American gangsterism I could cosplay for
>tfw I would just look like a tool

>> No.10422447

>>10422371
Well that makes sense

>>10422385
What are you talking about

>>10422388
hello i hope you specifically are having a good day

>> No.10422451

>>10421678
It really is magical how this site does that. The only other website I’ve seen with such rapid and intense thread deterioration is tumblr itself.

>> No.10422455

>>10421678
>>10422451
/cgl/ has become uniquely bad over the last few years because it's the intersection of angry women from other sites who come here to dump drama and angry incel men who come here from other boards to insult or harass the women here. It's a fucking perfect storm of shit and drags everything else down with it.

>> No.10422457

>>10422447
>hello i hope you specifically are having a good day
Oh absolutely though I am a bit tired and work has been dragging on though it is a bit slow. I spent too much money the past few days on new clothes on Aliexpress even though I should be saving up for a dress but I ran into a lot of cute shit I had to get. I'm thinking about buying a teaset for myself because even though it sounds cringey I just want to drink my tea in my room and pretend to be a fancy Victorian lady living the high life. But that fantasy is broken when I hear my bf downstairs with the tv too loud. I am kinda embarassed to show my feminine side even though he likes it but it just feels weird. You ever get that feeling that black girls aren't supposed to be cute? Only sexy? I don't want to be sexy but a lot of cute clothes don't really work well on my body so it's been a bit of a let down down. Not to mention my family members think it's weird if I wear a floral dress. Well aside from my mom. She loves that shit. They probably think I'm retarded. I'm a little afraid to step outside wearing this kind of stuff so I stick with jeans and pants but I'm working up the courage to for it. I only have about 10 more years to enough this youth before I start actually looking my age too. I really should be practicing my make up but I just can't fucking figure out eyeliner and fake lashes. I ought to look up a guide later but qurantine has got me lazy as hell. Got back into weight lifting because I've gained weight so that's another annoying thing but Knocking that shit down will be a piece of cake in a couple of months. Man, I should have worked harder for the abs I wanted for my birthday but there's always next year. Et tu?