Good Brolita

[Anonymous No.10433016]

There was a time when brolitas were accepted in the communities as long as they actually participated in the fashion properly. I'd like to start a thread that takes us back to the time before. It was a short time but it was okay for boys to wear dresses just because they wanted to be pretty and not have some agenda behind it. I only have this one guy as an example but if there are others post them as well.

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[Anonymous No.10433033]

No

[Anonymous No.10433049]

>>10433016
What the fuck are you talking about? We are still fine with normal brolitas?

We hate fetishists and sissies. If you are a brolita and feel like excluding fetishists and sissies is bad then I have some news for you.

[Anonymous No.10433055]

something something stale drama

[Anonymous No.10433083]

>>10433049
i'm not okay with the withered old men who can't pass a la annalise and andrea. they could at least shoop or use face stickers so that they don't completely give off a sissy look.

[Anonymous No.10433102]

>>10433049
Are you new? In the last few years gull have gotten much more pissy about brolitas, even the ones that pass. It always ends in some bitch fit between tumblrites and radfems even when the person in question isn’t some sissy or even trans.

[Anonymous No.10433103]

>>10433055
Who is this? Really cute look.

[Anonymous No.10433109]

>>10433102
radfems are a plague. they're getting worse now that they got kicked from the farm. sjws are a plague too but i've gotten used to ignoring them.

[Anonymous No.10433113]

>>10433102
I believe it's out of fear. The trend in transtrenders and loud groups that try to put down women has caused a fear resulted in hating ALL men just like the reverse of SJWs who say all men need to die, piss off men who now claim these to be ALL women.

[Anonymous No.10433116]

On one side, I want to encourage men to enjoy feminity if they want to without them believing they are trans or sissy or at risk of being beat up by other men. But on the other hand I don't want to invite men into the community to take advantage of these opportunities just to satisfy a sexual urge or express themselves in a way just to say "take that" to women.

[Anonymous No.10433117]

>>10433116
>>10433113
stop posting easymode.

[Anonymous No.10433152]

>>10433083
That's because withered old men like that are the fetishist sissies. They're not brolitas.

[Anonymous No.10433172]

I don’t care if men want to dress in lolita, but most men in general look at something slightly alternative and think “can I stick my dick in this???”

[Anonymous No.10433175]

>>10433103
They hid their social media cause some gulls ripped into them awhile back.

[Anonymous No.10433393]

Are vkei artists ok?

[Anonymous No.10433394]

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[Anonymous No.10433408]

>>10433117
what does that mean?

[Anonymous No.10433409]

>>10433408
The pictures you posted were of Mana, which is easy to do.

[Anonymous No.10433410]

>>10433408
Nayrt

They're implying that posting Mana is lazy cuz he's one of the pioneers of gothic lolita and everyone in lolita p much knows of him

[Anonymous No.10433425]

>>10433083
>>10433102
How big of a deal is "passing" in the community with brolita fashion? Even if someone is young, would they be shunned from it because their face is too masculine?

[Anonymous No.10433426]

>>10433425
they'd be shunned for being a man. You have to realize the hobby is dominated by upper middle class white women who are naturally bat shit crazy.

[Anonymous No.10433460]

>>10433425
You probably won't be shunned if you have a masculine face shape or broad shoulders but at least bother to shave and wear clothes your size.

[Anonymous No.10433466]

>>10433460
>at least bother to shave
I'm here for the clothing, not to look like a female, anon.
I don't expect women to color in a beard when they dress in Aristocrat.

[Anonymous No.10433469]

>>10433466
NTA but if you were to have a beard in a fashion that focuses on feminity, that beard better be clean, cut, neat and styled in a way that matches your dress. I better see some ribbons and ringlets.

That said, facial hair in aristocrat is optional for men as well and if the girl's facial structure can pull it off I say go for it.

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[Anonymous No.10433474]

>>10433469
>ringlets
Not hard, my beard hair is very curly.
>facial hair in aristocrat is optional for men as well
I always felt this was the case because so many women dress in Aristocrat.

[Anonymous No.10433480]

>>10433474
>I always felt this was the case because so many women dress in Aristocrat.
Not really, facial hair on a man is almost always optional in most fashions. A shaved beard is not really a sign of feminity but just another sign of being clean cut, "slick" if you will.

[Anonymous No.10433490]

>>10433425
Male lolita here, i don't really go out of my way to pass in lolita because Im a man and my goal when wearing lolita isnt to pretend to be a woman, but i tend to find that male lolitas that don't pass at least from just a glance just arent making an effort

[Anonymous No.10433493]

>>10433480
On the same token, a beard need not be a sprawling, "I am a lumberjack" monstrosity.
I do think there is an assumption that a beard is by default unkempt and low brow by a lot of people.
I am quite happy that barbers are remembering how to shape a beard up these days, and products specifically for beard maintenance are much easier to acquire.

[Anonymous No.10433499]

>>10433490
>Im a man and my goal when wearing lolita isnt to pretend to be a woman
I’ve always been curious about this logic as I’ve heard it a lot from brolitas. I just find it difficult to understand how can one want to dress up in super girly clothing and not want to look like a woman while doing so. Not trying to attack, I’m just genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.10433505]

>>10433499
No totally fair question.
I really wish I had a better answer, but i just wear the clothes because I like it? Im not actively going out of my way NOT to look like a woman, It's just not my primary goal. I feel like if a guy's primary goal when wearing lolita is to be a "cute uwu kawaii girl" rather than being interested in the actual clotges, they've probably got some sorta sissy motivation

[Anonymous No.10433516]

>>10433499
Personally, I appreciate the fashion, find it (it took my a while to think of the word) elegant, but I divorce the idea of "feminine" from it. At least no more feminine than a pair of pants are masculine, or how hosiery and bows used to be very masculine clothing, but are not anymore.
When I wear lolita, I am modeling a classical idea of fine fashion, not so much the people who wore it. I am mildly bemused that women who wear lolita find so much consternation by the men who do so.
In short, I am mostly in the mind of >>10433505. I am not a cute girl, never will be nor desire to be one. I do, however, love fine dress, and lolita falls squarely in that.
>I have a love for sweeping clothing in general, be them dresses, tabards, ankle length jackets and the like, it's baller as fuck

[Anonymous No.10433518]

>>10433493
That's good. Do note however that my opinions on beards in lolita are solely my own. I'm sure that a good chunk of the community is not going to like it but I say if you can pull it off and make it look good, go for it. That's the main goal of the fashion anyway, looking good.

[Anonymous No.10433520]

>>10433518
I will admit, it rankles me slightly that the gender issue crops up so often when my goal is to look good in whatever style I decide to wear.
But I strut regardless, haters will hate, as the saying goes.

[Anonymous No.10433522]

>>10433466
Expect to be shunned

[Anonymous No.10433525]

>>10433522
Cool beans, I don't dress lolita for your, or anyone else's, approval.
Do you.

[Anonymous No.10433535]

>>10433520
The gender issue is a social thing that has been ingrained into us for so long, it's hard to accept anything outside it. I admit I have a hard time accepting as well but I try to keep an open mind about things as long as 1. It works and looks good 2. There's no underlying sexual reason for doing it, unless the thing is already sexual (like I'm not going to get upset over someone in bondage wearing bondage or w/e. )3. Not using it for ulterior motives (to gain access to certain groups just so you can take advantage of them.)

Boys can be pretty and girls can be handsome without needing to think they are the opposite sex.

[Anonymous No.10433537]

>>10433393
Omg, asian men are so lucky

[Anonymous No.10433540]

>>10433016
>>10433017
>>10433018
>>10433019
is he still around?

[Anonymous No.10433543]

>>10433535
I do wonder at times if women have more issues with shifting gender norms than men.
But that is a question that far exceeds the mandate of this website, I reckon.

[Anonymous No.10433545]

>>10433393

[Anonymous No.10433547]

>>10433545

[Anonymous No.10433549]

>>10433547

[Anonymous No.10433551]

>>10433549

[Anonymous No.10433553]

>>10433545
>>10433547
>>10433549
Makes me want to dig out my Gothic Lolita Bibles and wish I could read moonspeak again.

[Anonymous No.10433555]

>>10433551

[Anonymous No.10433556]

>>10433540
No idea. I haven't found any recent stuff
>>10433543
I would think it's the opposite in the western world at least. It's generally okay for a girl to dress and do masculine things now. The only ones I can think of are masculine looking or musclar women are looked down on by both men and women. Actually though, in some groups too much feminity is looked down on as well. For instance black women are taught to be strong, sexy and dominant. Dressing girly and having a "submissive" appearance is seen as weak and "trying to be white." On the flip side, it's expected for white women to be more feminine as a way to be submissive to a man because "it's her place." rather than she just enjoys it. They get the tradfem hounds on them. It's all a mess really.

Men displaying feminine qualities though are likely to have the shit beat out of them or even killed by other men so I feel sorry for you guys on that part.

[Anonymous No.10433558]

>>10433555
I'll stop here

[Anonymous No.10433559]

>>10433545
>>10433547
That smile makes him look like a witch and I love it.

[Anonymous No.10433561]

>>10433553
>wish I could read moonspeak again

[Anonymous No.10433562]

>>10433556
>black women are taught to be strong, sexy and dominant
I've had some issues with this, as I've seen black women embody all of the unpleasant masculine traits in the idea it makes them "strong".
I almost got into a brawl with my cousin's partner because she massively disrespected my father at a Thanksgiving dinner.
Being an asshole doesn't make you strong.

[Anonymous No.10433577]

>>10433562
Yeeeaa it comes from a history of black people being taken advantage of, especially black women, so we've been brought up to be able to fight and defend ourselves. Not only that, but since in the past black women were also expected to do physical labor as well almost as much as the men were so you had to be tough. So nowadays a black woman not presenting herself as a "bad bitch" is looked down on by the black community but the opposite is looked down on by other communities. Thankfully this was slowly changing, but thanks to recent events I feel it may come up again.

Doesn't make it right that she was a bitch though. Hard-headed attitudes isn't good on anyone.

[Anonymous No.10433582]

>>10433577
It's my dad, y'know?
The 65 year old guy who just wants to play with his grandkids.
I haven't been so mad at anyone in... well, it's been a while. I called her out, then she got in my face. I nearly punched her, and I'm not proud to admit it.
Shit, now I'm down thinking of it all.

[Anonymous No.10433600]

>>10433562
>>10433577
>>10433582
idk, most of the black women i see are a little abrasive, but nothing so drastic as all that. Maybe it's because i'm also a black girl, so no one's putting up a front for me?

>>10433520
Sometimes you wanna look good in a dress, sometimes you wanna look good in pants. But people just have to be shitty when you switch it up.
>>10433469
> I better see some ribbons and ringlets.
God, I want to see that, if only for the novelty of it. There woiuld be so many people shitting on them for it though, I understand why no one's done it yet.

[Anonymous No.10433602]

>>10433582
you also seem like you were being confrontational.

[Anonymous No.10433607]

>>10433600
>idk, most of the black women i see are a little abrasive, but nothing so drastic as all that. Maybe it's because i'm also a black girl, so no one's putting up a front for me?
It's more about the history behind it and the overall. There's this sense of needing to be strong and powerful which is something that's not seen as much in other women of different races. It was calming down too, being a bit more normalized for black women not needing to be as agressive as before, but with recent happenings, this may change.
>God, I want to see that, if only for the novelty of it. There woiuld be so many people shitting on them for it though, I understand why no one's done it yet.
There's something there, I know it.

[Anonymous No.10434169]

I really used to admire manasamatemple's coords.

[Anonymous No.10434178]

>>10434169
I loved his style! Is he still part of the community?

[Anonymous No.10434287]

>>10434178
She still wears it once in a blue moon, but her IG account is private.

[Anonymous No.10434344]

>>10433562
>she massively disrespected my father at a Thanksgiving dinner.
>>10433582
>The 65 year old guy who just wants to play with his grandkids.
Let me guess, he made a racist comment, she called him out and you defended your "poor" dad.

[Anonymous No.10434545]

>>10433474
>>facial hair in aristocrat is optional for men as well
>I always felt this was the case because so many women dress in Aristocrat.
Mana says no.

[Anonymous No.10434571]

>>10434545
Based

[Anonymous No.10434596]

>>10434344
Quite the assumption you made bud.

Of course a black women could only be perceived as disrespectful for being so noble as to call out racism. Because black women are angels and aren't capable of being assholes, right?
God you sound kind of racist desu

[Anonymous No.10435006]

>>10433055
Huh that’s brolita? I saved couple of his coords for my inspo folder a while ago

[Anonymous No.10435011]

>>10435006
Post him? That pic here is cute and well put together, I want to see his other outfits.

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[Anonymous No.10435173]

I wish this kind of thing could be normalized.

[Anonymous No.10435179]

>>10434169
Transitioned to female, but she's still the example that comes mind when i think of good AMAB lolitas

[Anonymous No.10435259]

>>10433490
I am a man who wears Lolita too. Being tall with a Flintstone face, there is no way that I can pass at a glance. More makeup doesn't work for me.

[Anonymous No.10435262]

>>10433116
I am a man who wears Lolita. I agree that men don't belong in the community because of social awkwardness. Men simply don't relate easily to women in a Lolita meet-up.

[Anonymous No.10435265]

>>10435133

She's a girl

[Anonymous No.10435401]

>>10435133
that's brizblossom, but i get a lot of sissy vibes from her coords

[Anonymous No.10435436]

>>10435262
Women don't relate to other women at meetups. The only connecting factor is the clothing. Any overlap is coincidental.

[Anonymous No.10435440]

>>10435262
Speak for yourself, my interests and values overlap a lot with fellow comm members.

[Anonymous No.10435530]

>>10435440
Good. I love the clothes, but I have had a difficult time relating anything else. Aside from the clothes, what else would a brolita have in common with the ladies (without coming across as flirting with them)?

[Anonymous No.10435532]

>>10435530
A lot of lolitas are shameless weebs, so there's that

[Anonymous No.10435543]

>>10435530
You know some of us are crossborders from fit, x and k, right? There are a lot of interest to have overlap in. Just ask about shows or activities.

[Anonymous No.10435607]

>>10433410
ah sorry I am >>10433408 i didint post the mana pictures I was just confused by your answer

[Anonymous No.10435648]

>>10433466
Then do something else, lolita is made to make you look like a girl.

[Anonymous No.10435658]

>>10435530
Male lolita here, i'm sorry, but do you not have female friends outside of lolita? How is it any more difficult to relate to a group of women than it is a group of men?

[Anonymous No.10435710]

>>10435530
How socially stunted are you that you can't even hold a conversation without coming off as flirting? Talk about your hobbies. Talk about things related to lolita (fashion, makeup, skincare, crafting/sewing, anime/manga, etc). Talk about the fucking weather and how it makes wearing lolita uncomfortable. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.10435788]

I follow this Swedish brolita. His clothes and wigs don’t always fit him perfectly but he has good taste and wears them as a regular fashion, not a costume.

[Anonymous No.10435791]

>>10435788
That's not bad.

[Anonymous No.10439712]

>>10435262
Stop simping

[Anonymous No.10442262]

>>10433555
Qt

[Anonymous No.10448511]

I really really dig the entire Lolita fashion but give it to me straight:
I`m 192 cm tall and i have shoe size 46-47. I was trying to do my first coord for a sweet lolita but where do i even find shoes that big that arent some fetish high heels?

[Anonymous No.10448520]

>>10448511
Maybe taobao? I've seen some customized shoe sizes offered on reseller sites. You might have better luck in the crossdressing thread.

[Anonymous No.10448710]

>>10448511
iirc fluffykawaiijo sells big lolita shoes

[Anonymous No.10449689]

>>10448511
I shop on Taobao regularly and there's always really cute shoes that go up to 47-48

[Anonymous No.10450077]

>>10433109
How the hell did they get kicked from farm? I figured no one was too bad for there.

[Anonymous No.10450083]

>>10450077
they vetted a troon as a farmhand and he banned all GC discussion

[Anonymous No.10450111]

>>10433109
Die mad about tranny

[Anonymous No.10450825]

>>10450083
might actually revisit it then. The radfems were fine in their containment thread but at some point i couldnt get through a normal thread without someone screeching that an obv woman was secretly a tranny just because they didnt look like some uwu baby-faced doll

Not to mention women in vent threads being insecure about the tiniest non-issues because of the impossible standards they made up for us. Its sad.

[Anonymous No.10450828]

>>10450077
>>10450825
they're shitting up threads still despite constantly being banned.

[Anonymous No.10450876]

I didn't think radfems were banned. A test board was made and then deleted.

[Anonymous No.10450879]

>>10450825
Lolcow farms has gone down hill tremoundously. It's become a breeding ground of whingey lib fems and over sensitive twitter users now, it's slowly morphing into pull and i hate it. The cow threads also fucking suck too.

[Anonymous No.10450888]

>>10433055
I miss seeing his coords on cof

[Anonymous No.10450976]

What's people's opinions on brolitas using face stickers when uploading pictures?

[Anonymous No.10451003]

>>10450976
It's similar to when girls sticker their faces when they're not wearing makeup. It's good for when you want to be judged exclusively on your outfit.

I imagine it's annoying to be a brolita with a good coord and have people just comment on your manly face.

[Anonymous No.10451012]

>>10435262
Learn how to talk to women like they're regular people.

[Anonymous No.10451013]

>>10448511
last i checked Antaina does custom orders, you can message them with a link to a pair of their shoes and ask if they can make them in a larger size.

[Anonymous No.10451027]

>>10433426
This shitty attitude is why genuine brolitas aren't accepted, not by virtue of simply being men. You look down on women in a woman dominated hobby. You think you're above it and that misogyny is why you're rejected.

I accept brolitas except these:
1. Ones with the above thought process
2. Ones who dress bad but expect praise just by virtue of being a man (ties in to the above)
3. Ones who do it to be edgy. Basically those who flaunt the shock value of having a beard and wearing a pink dress. It makes no sense to be in a feminine fashion and not look feminine. That doesn't mean "look like a woman" because there are masculine women. Feminine and woman are not synonymous. If you're not capturing a feminine aesthetic, you're doing it wrong. See point 2. >>10433466 is a good example of this

Basically, I hate anyone who thinks they get to play by different rules or get asspats for having a dick while wearing a dress.

[Anonymous No.10451179]

>>10433480
Does anyone know what this guys face shape is called? Those high cheek bones.

[Anonymous No.10451240]

>>10451027
This 100%

[Anonymous No.10451276]

>>10451027
this shit also goes for women in the fashion that are edgy with less
leg and armpit hair. femininity is culture and having less body hair is considered feminine, why even participate if you don't like cultural femininity?

[Anonymous No.10451277]

>>10451276
with letting leg and armpit hair grow out*

[Anonymous No.10451298]

>>10451179
high cheekbones
alternatively you could call it diamond or something

[Anonymous No.10451312]

It hurts so much gulls I just want him back

>>10450828
You sound like a kpop fan.

>>10450876
the dedicated threads was deleted too

>>10451276
who cares, as long as you can't see it? 90% of lolita covers legs and shoulders anyway.

[Anonymous No.10451319]

>>10451276
shaving off body hair is patriarchal, not some empowering thing for women

[Anonymous No.10451323]

>>10451319
OP never said it was. And it's not lolita lolita is empowering for women in a way that is cut off from patriarchal ideals of good femininity either.

[Anonymous No.10451324]

>>10451312
what about all the idiots who show off their hair constantly in pics? lolita is still trying to conform to feminine cultural norms, despite being a "feminist" counterculture in japan at the start.

[Anonymous No.10451333]

>>10451319
lolita isn't empowering anyway. just because it's from a different time period and was attractive to men from a different time period doesn't mean it goes against gender roles or patriarchal standards of beauty, it just takes them from another time. hair removal has always been a part of beauty standards around the world anyways, be it eyebrows, legs, armpits whatever. leg hair removal became more widespread during ww2 because razors were cheaper than nylons which were meant to conceal the hair anyway, but it's not as if it was a new concept.

[Anonymous No.10451336]

>>10451333
But what you said are patriarchal reasons. Men all over the world for ages want women with hairless skin and shame women who don't. Stockings create a smooth apperance. A woman having body hair is seen as unsexy, gross and even "not a real woman" when it shouldn't be. I mean, I still find it unappealing as well but I, like others, are culturally conditioned to think this.

As for lolita not being empowering, I beg to differ. It's hyper feminity that isn't sexualized in a age where sexualized fashion is the norm.

[Anonymous No.10451338]

>>10451336
Lolita fashion lets women find self-worth in their physical appearance while upholding the standards of traditional femininity. It's just tradwife for liberals.

[Anonymous No.10451352]

>>10451338
>It's just tradwife for liberals.
God no. I know there may be tradwife types in the fashion but I wouldn't associate everyone into it as one. For a lot of lolitas, it's about enjoying feminine things for yourself. Not because "you're supposed to" or "not supposed to", just enjoying beautiful things without being a piece of fuck meat.

[Anonymous No.10451353]

>>10451352
*without being seen as a piece of fuck meat

[Anonymous No.10451355]

>>10451352
that, plus a lot of lolitas are absolute sluts, so they can't be described as traditional whatsoever

[Anonymous No.10451359]

>>10451336
you're just attributing things you don't personally like to patriarchy despite every female beauty standard being based in it. you can't pick and choose and act like the type of femininity you like doesn't have the same meaning.

[Anonymous No.10451369]

>>10451355
No, I'm basing it on biology. Women grow body hair naturally. We dislike it because of the cultural standard set up that attributes to attractiveness in our society. Women also can have strong jawlines, large muscles, even facial hair, all things that we would label as something only men should have when really both men and women have these features. This comes from what men desire and want in women despite these things being natural to them. It goes both ways. Patriarchy also demands men be a certain way as well and shame or even kill other men who don't follow these standards that have been set up by them. That's just how things are.

Back to the point, shaving body hair is is considered feminine because throughout the world, men say it is.

[Anonymous No.10451399]

>>10451369
Shaving body hair is something that razor brands made up to sell more razors, but it isn’t representative of all markers of femininity.
Many so-called “girly” things, like needlework, fashion, cooking, and so on, were for centuries the only ways women had to express themselves and the only things they were allowed to create without fear of repercussions. For example, in some times and places women weren’t taught to read or write, but they could tell stories through weaving — hence the relationship between the words “text” and “textile.” Women have been allowed to create so little from at least the Bronze Age onwards, so I think it’s important to cherish and preserve everything they were able to make for themselves and I reflect that in my lifestyle, though I can also create and express myself pretty much however I want now. Besides, if it’s men who decided some things are “feminine,” it’s also men who decided that feminine things are weak and unworthy of attention, and I don’t care about their opinion.

[Anonymous No.10451402]

>>10451399
this exactly. a lot of beauty standards were self imposed. upper class women made the trends and everyone else followed. whether those trends are based on patriarchy or male gaze isn't the point necessarily. women's fashion and male standards have so much overlap it's ridiculous to pick and choose.

[Anonymous No.10451440]

>>10451369

You should make a proper poll for the body hair thing. I've seen it said countless times that women would prefer men also shave their leg hair. Opinions on bearded dudes seems to be split though.

imo, the thing I've noticed is the more high maintenance you look, it seems to be associated with being higher class, because these are all inconvenient things that lower/common people just don't have time for. So for eg:

- high heels: difficult to walk in, death on uneven ground. Means you always walk in well-maintained areas with flat ground

- Manicure: someone has to do your hands for you, and it's easy to damage your manicure if you do rough chores

So it follows that shaving your legs to look unnatural despite naturally growing body hair means you have the time and leisure to tend to your body hair. Similarly with dresses, the more ruffles, poof and the more effort it takes to create the fabric, the more time and labour that went into it, the more intricate it is, it looks more expensive and more high-maintenance, therefore you're a lady of luxury who has time to spend on things like this rather than toiling the fields or chopping chicken for dinner.

Similarly, on the other side, if you're a common person who has no time for this shit, it can be pretty nice to go for a massage or a manicure where someone bends themselves over to tend to *your* body, your needs, instead of having to care for yourself. Or to buy yourself an expensive dress full of ruffles because you worked hard and you want it.

I mean, if we go by "natural body produces hair so that's the natural beauty standard" then most of us wouldn't even bother with hair salons and nail parlours, we'd just walk around looking like (clean) shaggy monkeys with naturally broken long nails.

[Anonymous No.10454305]

itt:
"Empowered" women entierly preoccupied with what "patriarchy" wants them to do even though the most independent thing would be to stop giving a shit about that and stayign on topic.

[Anonymous No.10454380]

>>10451027
Sounds like the most vocal women in every male dominated hobby ever.
Maybe promoting the idea of adapting to a community rather than expecting the opposite would be a good one to push. But it won't gin traction if it only appllies one way.
Don't mean to say you're wrong though.

[Anonymous No.10454387]

>>10433535
>>10433556
I agree that society views women breaking traditional gender roles as more acceptable than men doing so, but you are divorcing women from society there.
If you go hard against the norm, as in, crossdress, I'm sure you get shit from men for it, but if you step out of line in more slight, less (willingly or accidentally) provocative ways, my personal experience is that women take offence but men dont. For me, I can't remember a single time when a man has given me shit for having longer hair, which I saw as the only socially accepted avenue for self expression because I never had the balls to wear skirts and stuff, but women (or when I was a teen, girls and women) have been nagging me about it forever. It's really hard to say if one gender is more or less tolerant of breaking the rules, because we all like to imagine ourselves as openminded and like to project that onto our entire gender.
The danger that other men pose is vastly overstated and most women are not as open minded as we like to think. "Women are so tolerant and nice and let you do whatever" is itself a sexist stereotype.
Also I'd argue that we've largely done away with the idea of things being "masculine" at all, seeing it as sexist. Nobody in the west sees a girl in trousers and thinks "masculine".
And the "men are the oppressors by default" mindset get some women weirdly territorial about what they consider to be women's domain, and they don't want us encroaching on their space, regardless of whether that is even anywhere near our intention.

[Anonymous No.10454529]

>>10454387
ok, scrote.

[Anonymous No.10457752]

>>10435131
he is in japan now, most of the people does not know that she IS a MALE, it's kinda funny

[Anonymous No.10457933]

>>10454387

>never had the balls to wear skirts and stuff

>b-but men are totes nice and won't kill you for it believe meee


Uhhhh anon....

[Anonymous No.10459918]

>>10457933
I never said I was scared of being beaten up/killed. I was entirely referring to social consequences. And yes, women are just as much of a factor in that as men, if not more.

[Anonymous No.10459944]

>>10459918
Women kill men for acting and dressing feminine?

[Anonymous No.10459948]

>>10459918
You sure have a lot of opinions for someone who hasn't even worn a skirt in public.

From my personal experience, women/girls are WAAAY more accepting of people subverting gender roles than men/boys. I've always been pretty effeminate, and I've worn girly clothes in public, and 99% of the shit I've gotten from childhood till now have been from men/boys. Most of women/girls are either indifferent or supportive. In fact I've made a lot of female friends because they found out that I was into makeup/sewing/kawaii stuff/shoujo manga/etc.

[Anonymous No.10459959]

>>10459944
You legit just skipped two out of three sentences.
>>10459948
And my experience is different. Yes, I admitted it is based on things that are nowhere near as significant as crossdressing.
Of course it comes down to the individual. I'm sure that as far as my FRIENDS are concerned, absolutely nobody would disown me over it, but that goes for my male friends as well.
My point wasn't to make the definitive statement that "women bad". I'm not the one claiming his personal observations are universal.

[Anonymous No.10459996]

>>10459944
nah. we cut off their dicks

[Anonymous No.10460120]

>>10451312
Anyone got more of his old coords? They were always on point.

[Anonymous No.10460123]

>>10460120
I have his photos saved. Some are more recent, but I'm not going to share due for privacy reasons. :^)

[Anonymous No.10461065]

>>10451276
> why even participate if you don't like cultural femininity?
...maybe because you just like how it looks? what kind of mental gymnastics is this? are you only allowed to wear punk clothing if you're punk now? since when is lolita strictly about "cultural femininity" anyways, when it originated as (and still is) an alt fashion meant to express yourself with? get the fuck out of here

[Anonymous No.10462230]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INKCPOQL98c

[Anonymous No.10462231]

>>10462230

[Anonymous No.10462233]

>>10462231

[Anonymous No.10469807]

Do you guys have a favorite shop for wigs?
I have a pretty big head and i want to buy one and i wanted to ask if somebody has a recommandation

[Anonymous No.10469823]

>>10469807
I buy mine from Arda. I’ve heard good things about Lockshop wigs as well but I think they are closed due to COVID.

[Anonymous No.10469889]

>>10469807
I like lockshop, though I have quite a small head so dunno how useful that is

[Anonymous No.10478767]

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[Anonymous No.10478865]

>>10478767
>>10478768
Part of me wants to think that's just the magic of being 19.
Part of me believes it's the magic of filters.
But most of me is currently as jelly as it gets
>tfw too tall, too broad in the shoulders and too old to even think of trying to brolita anyway

[Anonymous No.10478947]

>>10478865
I have bad news for you then

[Anonymous No.10478949]

>>10478865
Just use filters and flattering angles like everyone else. Worst case scenario just put a sticker over your face.

[Anonymous No.10478960]

SISSY WISSY
MAD AND PISSY
TERFS RUN RAMPENT
THROW A HISSY

SCREAMING, YELLING, STOMPING ABOUT
CRYING, WAILING, TROONING OUT

MEN THINK ME GAY AS FUCK
WOMEN HIDE, CURSE THY LUCK
LACK AWARENESS, SILLY KEK
SLURPING TEA FROM SIPPYCUP

SISSY SISSY
MAD AND CRAZY
BRING ME NAPPY
DO BE HASTEY

SAVING UP MY GOOD GIRL POINTS
TO PEE IN BALLPITS AT BURGER JOINTS
DADDY LEFT THE BUTTPLUG IN
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE FUN BEGINS!

CREEPY CREEPY, MAKEUP CACKEY
TINDER TINDER, NONE WILL TAKEY
TRANSPHOBES SWIPE LEFT ALL DAY
BUT BADDY DADDY ALWAYS STAY!

GIRLS AT COMM TRY TO IGNORE
BUT THROUGH MY BINKIE I SHALL ROAR
I'LL NEVER STOP BEING ME
NOT KNEEL BEFORE ME WHILE I PEE

[Anonymous No.10478961]

>>10478960
Nooooo c.uck word filtered to kek. Lame

[Anonymous No.10478967]

>>10478865
If I remember it right he’s a grown man who’s around 5”3, do you really want that?

[Anonymous No.10478974]

TRANNY JANNY
ANGRY FATTY
HAND ON KEYBOARD
SHIT IN NAPPY

ON /CGL/, I SHALL SCROLL
DORITOS CAKED IN MY ROLLS
/POL/FAGS ALWAYS GET A PASS
BUT SPEAK OF TRANNIES, I GO
NO FUN ALOWED INSIDE MY HOME

/CGL/, MY ONLY SAFESPACE
TO BAN OPINIONS OF THE BASED
THIS A JOB I DO FOR FREE
IN RAMUNE BOTTLE, I SHALL PEE!

[Anonymous No.10478975]

TRANNY JANNY
ANGRY FATTY
HAND ON KEYBOARD
SHIT IN NAPPY

ON /CGL/, I SHALL SCROLL
DORITOS CAKED IN MY ROLLS
/POL/FAGS ALWAYS GET A PASS
BUT SPEAK OF TRANNIES, I GO MAD

NO FUN ALOWED INSIDE MY HOME

/CGL/, MY ONLY SAFESPACE
TO BAN OPINIONS OF THE BASED
THIS A JOB I DO FOR FREE
IN RAMUNE BOTTLE, I SHALL PEE!

[Anonymous No.10479015]

>>10478975
not as good as
>TOMATO POTATO 100% SALE
4/10

[Anonymous No.10479036]

>>10479015
Don't forget to dilate, janny

[Anonymous No.10479038]

>>10479036
Complaining about the moderation team of 4chan is against the rules.

[Anonymous No.10479041]

>not trans
>not janitor
>has common sense unlike you
>>10479015
try harder next time
points docked for lame comeback and not sticking to the capslock format

[Anonymous No.10479042]

>not trans
>not janitor
>has common sense unlike you
>>10479036
try harder next time
points docked for lame comeback and not sticking to the capslock format

[Anonymous No.10479055]

>>10479038
So is banning things that violate no rules! But I'm just jealous I'm not a fat trans 4chan janny, go cut yourself for kpop stars while snorting estrogen. You fucking ruined this board because you just HAD to be "one of the girls XD". Well, guess what? There's no girls here anymore. Congrats, you scared them all away by being a fucking perverted pedophile and banning people for not wrapping all their posts in sunshine sprinkle wrapping paper. Only troons talk like that, hope you're happy sucking other mens limp estrogen dicks.

[Anonymous No.10479056]

>>10479055
>But I'm just jealous I'm not a fat trans 4chan janny
aren't you tho?

[Anonymous No.10479064]

>>10479055
chill

[Anonymous No.10479091]

>>10478967
Beats having weird proportions with arms too long relative to the rest and having to order your shirts from three different dutch or german shops if you ever want to have something that sort of fits.
Fast fashion for men is heck.