Lolita General - Balkanization Edition

[Anonymous No.10439878]

Last thread: >>10436712

[Anonymous No.10439882]

JetJ - Attribute (アトリビュート)
Price: 43,000 yen + tax
Reservations end on 29th July, 23:59 JST
>https://juliette-et-justine.com/products/detail/351

[Anonymous No.10439883]

How do I get skid marks out of my btssb bloomers? I'm scared I've ruined them. I really want to be able to sell them in the future if I need to but I can't get the stains out.

[Anonymous No.10439895]

>>10439878
We basically have three sweet lolita generals and a gothic general in addition to the general lolita general and I’m bitter there aren’t frequent enough classic releases to warrant a classic lolita general. At least tomorrow we’ll have photos from Innocent World’s new release tea party

[Anonymous No.10439896]

>>10439883
if this isn't bait please just throw them out jfc

[Anonymous No.10439904]

>>10439896
It’s definitely bait

[Anonymous No.10439905]

>>10439896
It's not bait, i don't have a lot of money and I saved up a while to afford these

[Anonymous No.10439906]

>>10439878
>>10439882
I love this cut but JetJ’s clip art prints just don’t do it for me

[Anonymous No.10439908]

>>10439895
I mean if gothic and sweet lolitas would rather stay contained in their respective generals, this essentially becomes a classic lolita general. Plus, a classic lolita general seemed pretty unsustainable the last time we tried it.

[Anonymous No.10439925]

>>10439883
why are you shitting up two threads with this bait get the fuck out of here

[Anonymous No.10439934]

>>10439925

Nice pun

[Anonymous No.10439938]

If I see one more person wear elf ears in lolita I'm going to fucking lose it
They look retarded on everyone but 100x more so in lolita

[Anonymous No.10439940]

>>10439938
noted with thanks

[Anonymous No.10439941]

>>10439938
God thank you, Same people who wear the elf ears will ree about how Lolita isn't a costume.

[Anonymous No.10439946]

>>10439878
The sharp disconnect of the print between the bodice and the skirt is really off putting. I exoect good attention to detail at that price.

[Anonymous No.10439947]

>>10439905
I'm going to take this bait and turn it around into a learning opportunity. First, answer to the bait; be a man and use bleach. Second...

Lolita Bloomers are not underwear. Historically, bloomer and drawers (bloomers being the newer word and usually referring to a closed crotch (more 1880s-1910s. Drawers are usually own crotch and came before, more victorian / american civil war) but the version used in Lolita fashion are both cut differently and are not meant to be the closest layer to the skin. Instead of functioning as underwear, Lolita bloomers are meant to cover the panties and act as an emergency modesty shield for if you fall over or the wind picks up. The goal should never be for your bloomers to be completely visible, but some degree of the bloomer leg showing can be start of the look.

That said, bait-anon is either an idiot or a fetishist for not wearing Lolita bloomers appropriately; it's their own stupid fault for staining them, because if worn correctly they would not be stained.

[Anonymous No.10439950]

>>10439947
What if I told you I have ibs and uncontrollable diarrhea occasionally?
I know bloomers aren't meant to be worn as underwear but shit can leak through, dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.10439952]

>>10439947
bleh, too early, too many typos; mainly "own crotch" is suppose to be "open crotch". It had to do with women using bigger hoop skirts and crinolines. Once women moved onto "narrower" (relatively speaking) skirts then the crotch could be sewn shut because everything was easier to navigate. Personally I use a pair of actual (very late) Victorian bloomers that the goodwill staff completely mis-identified as something for a Halloween costume. If you can I'd recommend it; the sizing is larger and the lace and pin tucks are higher quality in most cases. Of course condititon is important, but the cotton they used then had a unique sturdiness I love but find hard to describe.

[Anonymous No.10439954]

>>10439952
I love how you called me stupid but can't acknowledge that your assumptions about me were wrong.

[Anonymous No.10439972]

>>10439950

If you can afford lolita you can afford overpriced IBS treatment/medication, adult diapers, or to adjust your diet to help manage your condition. Go make up bullshit somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.10439981]

>>10439950 >>10439954 >>10439972
Agreed. IBS is an umbrella diagnosis for a bunch of different possible causes that all seem to get better through similar treatment means. People have been living with the condition way before it had a label and I'm certain having a bowel problem back in the day was something you were expected to be man enough to just deal with. Getting food poisoned one time out of the blue deserves pity, but a predictable issue you have to live with is something you can plan ahead for and manage.

... Anyway. So who here likes brand masks? Or the idea of brands continuing to make masks in the future from here on out?

[Anonymous No.10439996]

>>10439981

I like brand masks that use unique designs or brand mascots like BTSSB kumya masks and some of the stuff from classic/gothic brands; but the ones that AP and some other have been doing where they are just made from the same printed fabric as dresses seems cute but boring depending on the print. I would rather they be solid with a logo or designed with lace and embroidery or some other detail rather than an afterthought/post COVID cash grab. Masks are great in general even unrelated to disease/illness and brands taking the time to design some unique ones would be very appreciated.

[Anonymous No.10440002]

>>10439908
Why? I thought it was nice the last time we had it. Anons were sharing and discussing a lot of new releases. Unless some arguing happened at the end that I missed?

[Anonymous No.10440016]

>>10440002
I enjoyed the last one as well, iirc it just fizzled out. I think we got to classic lolita general 4 and nobody made a new one

[Anonymous No.10440031]

>>10440002
No arguments, just trolls.

[Anonymous No.10440070]

is lacemarket down for anyone else?

[Anonymous No.10440073]

>>10440070

Yep

[Anonymous No.10440075]

Does anyone have any recs for good indie brands/off brand shops for printed tights for classic?

[Anonymous No.10440092]

>>10440070
its down for me too. hope it comes back soon bc i just saw horror candy shop for sale in my email notifs :(

[Anonymous No.10440097]

>>10440092

It was the OP if it's the one I saw this morning. Odds are based on the price I remember no one will buy it too quickly.

[Anonymous No.10440099]

>>10439946
This is my issue with it too.

[Anonymous No.10440117]

>>10440070
It's all of circlly unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.10440133]

>>10439981
i'm enjoying wearing the brand masks because i don't like my nose... i mean, it's fine, but with a mask it's even better. i think the matching print masks are super cute but very not versatile since they pretty much only match one item. the kumya ones are also very cute, but i dont like items that say only "baby" on them, so i didn't go for it - i wish they had the 'b' symbol instead or the full name or nothing at all. iw's solid color masks are my favorite, but i don't want to bother with an ss.

[Anonymous No.10440382]

Anybody know who they talking about

[Anonymous No.10440383]

>>10440382

[Anonymous No.10440390]

>>10440382
I mean, the girl that someone supposedly stole from has an exceptionally trainwrecky style, I doubt anyone would want to copy them. Even if they did it would be pretty obvious if they did, so it sounds like a paranoid strech, but who knows?

[Anonymous No.10440391]

>>10440382

Is she even a lolita? Who is this?

[Anonymous No.10440414]

>>10440391
It must be nice to be that new. I hope you learn to google things soon!

[Anonymous No.10440423]

>>10440391
She's a man-faced ita.

[Anonymous No.10440424]

>>10440414

Just because I don't use social media super actively (especially not for lolita stuff) doesn't mean I'm new. If anything it makes me feel like a boomer that I don't even use twitter or instagram.

[Anonymous No.10440445]

>>10440002

Idk I contributed a lot but then I sort of fizzled out. I really did like it though.

I'll make a new one once I get to a computer. It wasn't the most active thread but it was really cozy.

[Anonymous No.10440448]

>>10440424
I tried to get into those, seeing how popular they are with lolitas now. But insta is more of a marketing app than a place to make friends, and Twitter isn't much better. Not very social, the platforms focus on dumb shit like engagement over networking

[Anonymous No.10440450]

>>10440382
I’m guessing

[Anonymous No.10440453]

>>10440450
I might be onto something

[Anonymous No.10440471]

>>10440382
>>10440450
does anyone else find this incredibly stupid? I dont even like K8 at all but its not like exhibit A invented remake style. Even if she was inspired, what is she going to claim anyone wearing that artists clothes is now copying her?

[Anonymous No.10440483]

>>10440453
I still don’t get what was copied here, the outfits look so different

[Anonymous No.10440487]

Why is Mercari nothing but scalpers reeee. No one wants to buy your stuff priced double of the same thing on Wunderwelt. Also the endless tagspamming of taobao under brand tags needs to stop, it was annoying enough when it was just handmade and indie. Now it's page after page of taobao under brand tags

[Anonymous No.10440497]

>>10440450
>>10440453
...does avina think she created remake fashion? there's been articles about the vintage upcycling trend in japan since 2017

[Anonymous No.10440498]

>>10440487
Ugly normie taobao spam

[Anonymous No.10440500]

Speaking of Kate, I’ve felt lately she’s been looking really ill. Does she have and ED or is she on drugs? Has she actually always looked so ill and thin and I’m just now noticing?

[Anonymous No.10440501]

>>10440500
>Does she have and ED or is she on drugs?
both

[Anonymous No.10440509]

>>10440450
i love avina's style but this is a reach

[Anonymous No.10440515]

>>10440483
K8 bought from the same indie upcycle designer as some other girl I guess.

[Anonymous No.10440531]

Welp, Bunny House is kill.

Never bought from them, but covid has claimed another victim.

[Anonymous No.10440533]

>>10440531
Wait so they’re cancelling old orders but still fulfilling more recent ones? Wouldn’t it make more sense to have it be the other way around?

[Anonymous No.10440534]

>>10440533
I was confused about that wording too. It doesn't really make sense why they wouldn't honor the older orders.

[Anonymous No.10440537]

>>10440500
she lives in a crackden with some troon so you arent wrong

[Anonymous No.10440542]

>>10440382
God it's always the people who act like an "uwu cinammon role" with this kind of attitude. Avina doesn't even fit into the shit she owns, she's probably just jealous at anyone who looks better than her.

[Anonymous No.10440544]

>>10440383
And of course WF has to jump in with sjw bullshit, top kek.

[Anonymous No.10440574]

>>10440531

Fuck I wanted to order some of their cardigans and other pieces but am financially unstable due to the pandemic as well...I can sew blouses and these things myself but wanted to support their business and try them out when I was doing better just because of how nice their stuff seemed.

[Anonymous No.10440601]

>>10440450
I can’t stand k8 but this is completely overblown.

Avina didn’t invent this uh... “style” and they aren’t even remotely similar

[Anonymous No.10440605]

>>10440601
Um actually A invented remake style. Actually she owns the brand ramarama . She's actually the artist. How dare someone copy her /s

She has her head so up her own ass being a slighted minority, she can't even be happy that a small POC owned business is receiving more support and orders

[Anonymous No.10440609]

>>10440500
At this point, it looks like she's trying to copy Shmegeh.

[Anonymous No.10440613]

>>10440450
am i the only one disgusted by kate's leg?

[Anonymous No.10440615]

>>10440613
nope

[Anonymous No.10440622]

>>10440383
I've always wondered this: are white passing Latinas also considered POC? There are so many lolitas from latin America on my feed but they're surprisingly white sometimes. Not what one would expect from a minority

[Anonymous No.10440623]

>>10440534
Maybe they would have to order specific fabric for these? I'm also quite confused.

[Anonymous No.10440629]

Why do people act like Meta is some nice thing when it's the third most popular brand behind AP and Baby/AatP?

[Anonymous No.10440632]

>>10440383
Did you know that Wonderfinch's dad is a prominent judge with his own wikipedia page? And she has the gall to always act oppressed.

[Anonymous No.10440634]

>>10440622
Argentinans/Chileans are almost exclusively of white background. But a lot of Latin Americans in general are white.

[Anonymous No.10440639]

>>10440629
Meta has been losing popularity for sure, but for a long time it had more shop fronts than both AP and Baby. In fact it wasn’t even until several years after GLB started publishing that AP finally had a shop front bearing their name. So fuck off with your Meta hate.

[Anonymous No.10440642]

>>10440639
>>10440639
Meant niche thing

[Anonymous No.10440649]

>>10440629

So..... it's still more popular than Moitie, VM, IW, JetJ, and other brands...? Does that not mean a lot of people like it....?

[Anonymous No.10440650]

>>10440629

Because popularity isn't an indicator of whether or not people like their pieces? Just because they aren't #1 doesn't mean they aren't well liked.

[Anonymous No.10440651]

>>10440642

Ahh. Maybe because people only ever see others memeing their kitschy weird prints so they don't realize Meta is Usually pretty simple chill?

[Anonymous No.10440655]

Some pics from the IW tea party are up on Twitter! I for one am not impressed

[Anonymous No.10440656]

>>10440655

[Anonymous No.10440657]

>>10440656

[Anonymous No.10440658]

>>10440655

Oh Boy. Gonna avoid the lucky packs this year then.

Thanks for posting these, anon.

[Anonymous No.10440659]

>>10440657
Underbust JSK version
I’m just excited for more blouses

[Anonymous No.10440661]

>>10440657
Without the apron

[Anonymous No.10440664]

>>10440661
We saw this already but here’s another colour

[Anonymous No.10440665]

>>10440664
I‘m pretty sure this is the same as a release from last year that came in pink, green, grey and caramel

[Anonymous No.10440666]

>>10440655
A bit of detail on the bodice

[Anonymous No.10440669]

>>10440666
So it seems we’re getting more of the same: long length dresses; button down fronts; plain except for detail at the collar. More polyester (the floral pieces could be all cotton). One new blouse similar to the classical ribbon blouse that came out recently and an apron with a rose on it.

I’m not delighted with these. I really hope some more pics come out in the next couple of days with more releases.

[Anonymous No.10440670]

>>10440658
Absolutely, but I wouldn’t mind getting the floral ones for cheap on LM if someone else makes the mistake of getting the lucky pack!

[Anonymous No.10440672]

>>10440659
This goofy ass cut makes misako look like a deformed midget with scoliosis

[Anonymous No.10440674]

>>10440670
Who would risk getting a LP when no one will buy it secondhand unless it's " for cheap"

[Anonymous No.10440678]

>>10440674

Because everyone doesn't buy lucky packs to resell for profit. And you're taking on a risk at a discount, why would secondhand buyers not expect you not to resell for higher than you bought it for if the value was so low/item was so unwanted it went into lucky packs?

[Anonymous No.10440682]

The IW stuff is so cute but the quality is looking like a big oof for me.

[Anonymous No.10440683]

>>10440674
Even if you love everything in the lucky pack, you still might get 4 of the same cut and colourway of a dress if you’re unlucky.

[Anonymous No.10440684]

>>10440659
The florals are gorgeous but the cut is ugly. I wish IW would stop with the long cuts or at least provide a shorter alternative.

[Anonymous No.10440685]

>>10440682
The polyester they use is terrible, I have around 4 dresses that use it and I hate it. I love simple dresses but they need the quality to back it up, IW just doesn’t deliver in that respect. I have had dresses from them with polyester I liked but I know just by looking at these it’s the type I hate

[Anonymous No.10440693]

>>10440685
I agree here. I had a skirt that I loved the cut of but the fabric just bothered me too much to keep it. I hate the grain of polyester so much.

[Anonymous No.10440697]

>>10440685

Yeah simpler classic to sweet-classic simple pieces like these are so great and when they actually fit me they fit well but as a seamstress I'd rather make the simple pieces in my wardrobe myself in nice materials and buy unique print pieces instead with the money I save on shipping and other costs.

[Anonymous No.10440701]

>>10440655
I like these but more for casual vintage inspired daily looks.
Won't pay full price though, IW's quality has been really disappointing recently. I wonder if anyone has even feedbacked to them. The last dress I got had crooked sewing on it.

[Anonymous No.10440702]

>>10440672
It's just the angle anon, that's a bit of a reach.

[Anonymous No.10440703]

>>10440697
>as a seamstress
most of the time when people say that it's like "lolita skirts are circle skirts" anon. let's hope you're actually competent.

[Anonymous No.10440705]

>>10440684
Unpopular opinion but I love the long cuts. IW dresses are one of the few that reach past my knees and I love it.

[Anonymous No.10440709]

>>10440705
I'm glad it fits somebody. Enjoy it for my sake, anon.

[Anonymous No.10440710]

>>10440705
i also like longer cuts but agree with others about the fabrics.

[Anonymous No.10440713]

Anyone got a torrent/dl link for Kamikaze Girls?

[Anonymous No.10440714]

>>10440703

I am a bit lazy on things that aren't visible, like l don't always finish my inside seams on unlined things for my own personal use unless it's fabric that frays super badly, but otherwise I think I do a pretty good job.

[Anonymous No.10440716]

>>10440709

I am also a hobbit and am at least happy tall girls have options.

[Anonymous No.10440720]

I noticed that IW is not doing many prints when printed jsks used to be their bread and butter. Do you think trends have changed or maybe they lack designers? I like solid OPs quite a lot but I don't think most people do.

[Anonymous No.10440725]

>>10440720
Their recent prints didn’t sell well so that might be putting them off, but when they do prints well they do really well. I hope they do them again

[Anonymous No.10440729]

>>10440383
Back then I wanted to recreate some coords from Chinese lolita I follow, but I guess I'd better not.

[Anonymous No.10440732]

>>10440656
I love this!

[Anonymous No.10440734]

>>10440629
Sorry anon but I'm cackling at how one tiny typo completely changed the meaning of your post.
I agree with the anon who said most people seem to think Meta only does wAackYY stuff. I will say that it's kind of surprising that Meta's in third considering most people have that mindset, and I see people buying up and posting their new releases much less often than I do for other brands.

>>10440656
I'd love this in a shorter length.

>>10440659
These blouses are beautiful! Sadly the only thing that really caught my eye out of the images posted.

[Anonymous No.10440742]

>>10440669
Yep, it's the same cuts over and over again. I can't wear long sleeve OP's because of my super long arms and I hate underbust JSK's. So there are 0 options left for me. I really regret not buying pic related a few a years go. It seems like they will never do a cut like this again. A simple and flattering floral JSK is all what I want.

[Anonymous No.10440756]

>>10440734
I love the detail! IW used to be renowned for their blouses, now we scarcely get any. I hope they start doing more again

[Anonymous No.10440758]

>>10440705
I like long cuts too. I'm short so it's not an issue of normal length dresses not fitting me properly, I just enjoy having more of my legs covered up sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10440764]

>>10440697
Same here. I love IW but lately they’ve been producing so many pieces that I can easily make to my own measurements, out of better materials and with pockets for half of what they’re charging (not charging myself for labour obviously) so it’s really hard for me to justify buying plain main pieces from them anymore. The only things I’m still buying are prints, socks and pieces that prominently feature custom lace. I feel like an ass for not supporting my favourite brand enough when they’re struggling but I hate that polyester so, so much.

[Anonymous No.10440767]

>>10440642
Meta gets shit on a lot, and being the third most popular brand in a substyle that has two VERY prominent brands is notable. Sure, compared to say PINA Sweet it’s not niche, but if you’ve ever told an AP whore your favorite brand is Meta you’d understand why people are a little defensive about it

[Anonymous No.10440780]

>>10440659
The only personal issue I have with innocent world is their main pieces. I'm just glad they still do amazingly with everything else. Those blouses are absolutely beautiful. If I had money to blow, i'd get one.

[Anonymous No.10440786]

>>10440605
This.

Avina plays the victim card so much, it’s like she thinks we don’t notice how well off she is? She clearly is in a very good financial place, so she can shut the fuck up.

Also I’m sorry but she’s just using the non binary term for pity points.

[Anonymous No.10440787]

I see people complain when AP or IW releases poly, but when Meta releases a poly dress there is not a peep about it. I guess they are already known for their raschel lace, so is Meta THE synthetic fiber brand or are people quietly mad about their poly?

[Anonymous No.10440794]

>>10440787
People complain about AP because it's the most popular brand and IW poly has consistently been shit
I think it's because Meta still makes cotton pieces and the fabric they use is decent, poly or not

[Anonymous No.10440801]

>>10440787
I have one Meta poly dress and it’s similar to IW in terms of being trash tier, but they put out enough beautiful cotton pieces that I don’t feel forced to accept polyester.

What brand has the nicest polyester? Moitie or VM? JetJ? It’s highly subjective but I’d be interested in hearing what people think

[Anonymous No.10440803]

>>10440801

I think it depends on the type of fabric. AP chiffon is probably poly/synthetic but it's very very nice; especially when held against taobao or fast fashion normie stuff. But their other printed poly is trash. My only experience with BABY poly was pretty bad. MAXICIMAM poly solids aren't exactly luxurious but feel really nice and have cotton lace and no annoying sheen like some brands do with printed poly. Never owned non cotton Meta and I don't buy from non sweet brands.

[Anonymous No.10440805]

>>10440801
AP chiffon is great, otherwise it's hit or miss. Chateau d'ecume sucked, my heart sank when I saw it irl. Thin, blurry, sad, sad drape. Ice Cream Parlor is nice and thick, and while I'd still prefer cotton for heat reasons it's not bad by any means.

[Anonymous No.10440827]

>>10440803
Baby’s print poly is great, especially the ones with gold threads

[Anonymous No.10440858]

Dear god anything Baby puts out is a yawnfest nowadays,same for AP. Both also degrading in quality,reaching close to taobao levels. Meta is superior,always has been.

[Anonymous No.10440861]

>>10440858
fat

[Anonymous No.10440864]

>>10440861

people call meta the fat brand but beyond having a lot of shirred print releases there's little evidence of that considering AP has had pieces go up to the same or bigger bust sizes with half shirring forever. Plus fats love the ott sugary sweet AP stuff

>>10440858

I think Meta is best brand for old school but BABY is top for me right now and this post reads like bait.

[Anonymous No.10440869]

>>10440864
Meta still is bigger than A, even with AP's sizing increase. The difference in posted measurements of the two brands is that AP's listed measurements are in the middle of sizing allowance, while Meta's is the minimum. AP still has a max bust of 90cm for a lot of OP's, meaning you don't have too much stretch beyond it, while a 90cm bust in Meta will have you still swimming in the dress.

[Anonymous No.10440873]

>>10440869
too bad meta is ugly as hell. even my fat ass won't wear it

[Anonymous No.10440874]

>>10440873
OK pleb

[Anonymous No.10440881]

>>10440869

Most people wear JSKs anyway in the west because of shoulder issues so OPs aren't exactly a good frame of reference anyway. I've seen too many people boobloafing and shoving themselves into AP sweet dresses coorded well and coorded ita. You can deny it all you want but sweet in general is the fatty substyle; nothing wrong with being fat if people are happy with themselves and they seem happiest in AP. That's why I'm glad BABY just keeps normal sizing and good quality cotton prints. BABY masterrace,

[Anonymous No.10440883]

>>10440881
there is always something wrong with wearing ill fitting clothes. not caring about your weight isn't the same as valuing your appearance. and shoving yourself into a dress looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.10440911]

>>10440787
Meta’s pintucked tiered pinafore JSK in polyester is a step up from the cotton. I’m sorry but I own the cotton one and it wrinkles like bitch. I’d love the polyesters one that wouldn’t have permanent creases.

[Anonymous No.10440995]

secrets

[Anonymous No.10441023]

>>10440531
F

Bought a petti from them a long time ago and would've gladly bought more.

>another victim.

Is there a list of brands and designers that have terminated business altogether due to corona?

[Anonymous No.10441028]

>>10440705
I feel you 100% anon. I love IW long cuts perfect for tall lolitas.

[Anonymous No.10441031]

>>10440801
Moitie polyester was very nice before the fall.

[Anonymous No.10441052]

I've been seeing a lot of black x white coords on my instagram feed, I love it.

[Anonymous No.10441060]

>>10439141

This is a nice coordinate but I’m kind of surprised it won Best Dressed

[Anonymous No.10441063]

>>10441060
I really like simple coords but I feel the same. Could be I just don’t like the dress in general though

[Anonymous No.10441070]

How much time should I wait until contact mods from lacemarket?
I bought a dress 10 days ago, seller was very communicative but when I paid she disappeared. Her terms of sale specified to pay between 24 hours, and she would ship in 24h too. Doesn't answer any message but she has good feedback so... I dunno.

[Anonymous No.10441120]

>>10441070
ten days is enough with no contact, i think. Go ahead and send her a message to get her shit together and contact the mods the next day

[Anonymous No.10441129]

>>10440665
are they using a hopskirt? It looks kinda bad, too bulky on the bottom and nothing near the waist

[Anonymous No.10441131]

>>10440742
This is beautiful, wtf happened to innocent world

[Anonymous No.10441134]

>>10440756
IW also used to be renowned for their embroidered tulle lace. I wonder why they're switching to torchon.

[Anonymous No.10441152]

>>10440861
projection much? i'm an old schooler. Sorry, Apfag

>>10440864
I'm actually serious.

[Anonymous No.10441169]

>>10440861
>calls someone fat without a photo even being posted
never change /cgl

[Anonymous No.10441176]

>>10441152

Fair enough if you're serious (and seeing your reply to the other anon that you're an oldschooler it makes sense to prefer Meta, like I said they're the best for oldschool).

[Anonymous No.10441181]

>>10441060
Fujiwara-san explained on twitter why she picked this one, it was because she was wearing this same dress so they were accidental twins, and they even had the same hair style (milkmaid braids). She also liked how the winner was a short and small person but still looked good in the long length OP. So basically Fujiwara was enchanted by this mini me and thought it was cute.

[Anonymous No.10441194]

>>10441181
Here's both of them together

[Anonymous No.10441199]

>>10441181
Fujiwara San sounds a bit full of herself doesn't she. It's not even a great coord, the girl is cute though.

[Anonymous No.10441204]

>>10441199
Don't say that shit about our girl Fujiwara i'll fight you in a parking lot bitch

[Anonymous No.10441209]

>>10441181
Thanks for the extra info!

[Anonymous No.10441233]

Is it weird to pair an Usakumya with an all AP coord?

[Anonymous No.10441236]

>>10441233
My personal opinion, but yes. Not enough that if I saw it I would be mad about it, but enough I would be like huh.

[Anonymous No.10441250]

>>10441236

People do it all the time. It isn't that weird. I prefer keeping brands the same but AP bags aren't as cute as kumyas so if I felt like I wanted a plush bag rather than pleather in a coord I'd totally throw in a kumya.

[Anonymous No.10441251]

>>10441233
kind of. definitely if it's a print, especially with AP mascots on it. for a non-print it's not as bad but people will assume it's a baby coord if the dress isn't well known.

[Anonymous No.10441254]

I know it's unreasonable of me but am i the only one who feels miffed when selling something and a fatty comes to ask how far it stretches? i only care about getting money from them but thinking that they're gonna stretch that brand with their pig bodies annoys me.
Same goes for poorfags who try to haggle the price. There's something jarring about brand going to poor people

[Anonymous No.10441262]

>>10441254
Yes I ignore them. I don't sell to fats.

[Anonymous No.10441265]

>>10441254

I only find poorfags annoying when they're trying to guilt me into lowering the price or allowing a payment plan with stupid terms. I rarely sell pieces with lots of shirring and I've never sold something that didn't have lolibrary measurements available so I just list those and fatties can take it or leave it.

[Anonymous No.10441278]

>>10441254
When i hear a fatty or a cow tit tell me that she thinks of altering the dress i always find a way to back the fuck up. They shouldn't be allowed to destroy dresses. Which is also why i think the mentally retarded (or any of that kind that is violent and careless in their gesture) shouldnt be allowed in the fashion or at least near brand. I am aware i sound horrible but i care more about dresses i love being preserved than a retard playing pretty princess.

[Anonymous No.10441301]

>>10441254
Yeah I don't particularly like to stretch things to the max while holding a measuring tape. As a rule of thumb, if you have to ask how big it goes, it's not going to fit.

[Anonymous No.10441338]

>>10441278
millionth reminder that dresses aren't communal property and you aren't entitled to them

[Anonymous No.10441341]

>>10441254
same. i was on the fence about selling something and when someone asked for measurements (that were both in the description and linked, on a very not obscure dress) i just took it down.

[Anonymous No.10441342]

>>10441338
i know,and yet i'll continue doing as i please. My happiness matters more idc if it makes me a bad person at this point

[Anonymous No.10441343]

>>10441254
same,i wish we went back to the old days of egl where it was more acceptable to call fatties fatty chans without someone screaming fatphobia. fat "acceptance" is a lie and sheer cancer (and the video tyler did about it reeks of fake wokeism,not saying we should shame the fats but we shouldnt encourage them)

[Anonymous No.10441346]

>>10441343
bad bait

[Anonymous No.10441350]

>>10441254
Fat girls are bad buyers, I've had a couple leave neutral feedback for a dress not fitting after I took careful measurements. It's not my fault you're fat and can't zip a dress at the max

[Anonymous No.10441354]

speaking of fatties why is it that they always get such asspats on COF?
I see pretty girls in pretty coords getting 100-200. Then again this one is fat AND black. So the SJWs had to come yass kweening,obvi. This group is a disgrace. And then they dare say that pretty skinny white girls get more attention.

[Anonymous No.10441355]

>>10441354
dropped it:

[Anonymous No.10441360]

>>10441354
Kek you sound bitter for not getting as many likes as you hoped, here's your (you) as a substitute for the attention you so crave.

[Anonymous No.10441363]

>>10441354
cope

[Anonymous No.10441367]

>>10441360
>>10441363
i don't even post there. sorry you're fat

[Anonymous No.10441369]

>>10441354
>And then they dare say that pretty skinny white girls get more attention.
Given that this is post-BLM going mainstream, she could’ve been given likes to compensate for the very reason you just stated. Also, gimmick pics always get a shit ton of likes regardless of quality. It’s nothing new.

[Anonymous No.10441371]

>>10441369
this. White guilt and fat apologists coming together.
Also COF is just shit in general this is no big news anon

[Anonymous No.10441378]

>>10440622
They're not lmao a lot of Latin American celebs get shat on by that crowd for trying to talk about social issues when they're ""white passing""

[Anonymous No.10441387]

>>10441378
this kek, pee ow cees discriminating in between themselves never fails to amuse me. i also hate anyone using the term poc on me or someone else. Say black or brown you sjw fucktard

[Anonymous No.10441390]

>>10441354
I'm fat and I hate this so much. This girl is clearly a newbie and super obese..

However I also think that worrying about the number of likes people get is not healthy so I think you should just laugh and let it go when this happens. They are obligatory social likes which are worth 1/100th of a real like. And a real like is worth $0. So both are basically the same.

[Anonymous No.10441418]

>>10441355
I mean....she modified a bodyline dress to fit her body, and made most of the pieces for her coord. It’s pretty impressive, and the overall coord looks ok despite her being large. I’d throw her a like for the effort.
Also it’s not news that CoF is a giant hug box for itas, sissies, littles, furries, fakebois, and the overweight/obese.

[Anonymous No.10441420]

>>10441204
Come get me cunt, I'll make a shiv out of my moitie parasol

[Anonymous No.10441424]

>>10441250
I own both AP plush bags and kumyas and kumyas also hold significantly more, which for me is another reason I prefer them and carry them with my AP coords.

[Anonymous No.10441434]

Someone is selling puppet circus with the headbow in black...but...they said the fat previous owner removed all the back shirring.

*sigh*

[Anonymous No.10441437]

>>10441434
Yeah I'm side eyeing the listing. Surely it should be listed as having major damage?

[Anonymous No.10441441]

>>10441434
Ew, why would someone do that? If you can fit it with the elastic taken out, you should be able to fit it with the elastic in.... right?

[Anonymous No.10441446]

>>10441441
Fatties taking the elastic out is pretty common unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.10441448]

>>10441434
Is that the $900 listing?

[Anonymous No.10441451]

>>10441434
It’s always funny to see someone selling an obviously scalped dress and still charge $15 for shipping

[Anonymous No.10441453]

>>10441451
This isn’t what scalping is poorfag

[Anonymous No.10441468]

>>10441453

Nayrt but it feels like it is when someone literally destroyed a rare dress by removing the shirring. Only people willing to do the extra sewing/elastic insertion or take it to a tailor and spend more can enjoy it now. Kind of pricey when you consider the extra price tag you are incurring by purchasing a dress that needs repairs.

[Anonymous No.10441469]

>>10440622
As a white passing latin american, here we are considered white and have all the white privileges you can think of, on mostly white countries not so much. We experience a bit of racism, but it’s not comparable to what non white passing people go through and it’s shitty behavior to act like it is.

[Anonymous No.10441471]

>>10441448

Yep. I don't even like the black colorway of PC but seeing the photos made me a little sad. And this is coming from someone who generally is okay with alterations so long as they are well done and not on extremely rare pieces. This is like, vintage lolita at this point and it was a minor aesthetic difference but kind of frustrating to see and makes me worried people are altering these super rare irreplaceable pieces. Hopefully AP has a copy of each colorway in a museum or storage. Like the thought of a seriously altered PC reminds me of those vintage wedding dress remakes where they make the dress worse/unrecognizable.

[Anonymous No.10441473]

>>10441453
Why don’t you buy it then?

[Anonymous No.10441479]

>>10441434
the elastic on PC being removed and the auction still starting at 900 dollars makes me wonder what a totally intact, NWT PC would go for today on the market.
>>10441471
lest we forget.

[Anonymous No.10441491]

Is it bad business practice to sell things cheaper in my home country?

[Anonymous No.10441492]

>>10441134
It's a throwback to old school and keeping in theme with some of their recent re-releases. If you look at the details on the blouse you can see all the old school influences. Can't say I dig the collar design tho

[Anonymous No.10441499]

There's a girl in my comm who's not really well-dressed. I friended her on facebook and it's full of pics of her rock climbing outside. Now I know why she's such an ita.

[Anonymous No.10441501]

>>10441479
Iikr this one went sold out for $700 and was worn only once. I'm still asking myself sometimes on weather should I just bid on it.

[Anonymous No.10441503]

>>10440674

IW lucky packs are well-known for being great wardrobe fillers, the bigger packs are basically a mini wardrobe in themselves. So if you want to expand your wardrobe really fast, just save up and drop $1k on them, in one go you'll now own 10-20 main pieces along with 10-20 blouses, accessories, socks, etc.

Of course the usual caveats. It'll be filled with what doesn't sell in the sales, so you should be small enough to fit the unpopular sizes and not mind the weirder things IW puts out. Actually I think if you took the weird frills and lace off >>10440655 it would still make a nice toned down OP, but local weather is hot, so it's something I'd avoid.

For the one who received 4 cuts of the same dress... actually I love the print and would have liked to receive it. I also know someone who received 3 of the same rose print dress, which I also love. I don't seem to have that kind of luck though, only ever received very middling lucky packs with nothing really awful or really great in them.

[Anonymous No.10441504]

>>10441499
... because she has other hobbies outside of fashion? idgi

[Anonymous No.10441506]

>>10441473
Because I already own Puppet Circus in a better colorway

[Anonymous No.10441507]

>>10441506
Red?

[Anonymous No.10441509]

>>10441390
>They are obligatory social likes which are worth 1/100th of a real like. And a real like is worth $0. So both are basically the same.
Online likes are worth of actual money because being an actual influencer can get you free shit and/or actual money for promoting stuff.

[Anonymous No.10441511]

>>10441473
NTA but what kind of argument is this? They have to buy it just to prove that it's not scalped? Try to make more sense next time.

[Anonymous No.10441513]

>>10441390 #
>They are obligatory social likes which are worth 1/100th of a real like. And a real like is worth $0. So both are basically the same.
Online likes are worth of actual money because being SM influencer can get you free shit and/or some income for promoting stuff.

[Anonymous No.10441519]

>>10439878
cute

[Anonymous No.10441556]

>>10441479
The price would be fine if it was in good condition but I sincerely hope no one bids on it. You can't willingly damage your clothes and then expect to sell it for the like new price.

[Anonymous No.10441564]

>>10441556
If you look through old listings, the seller bought it from another girl for 701£. The other girl mentioned that the owner before her took out the shirring. Looking through that girl's wardrobe posts, she's owned PC since 2017 at least, meaning that the shirring was taken out at least 3 years ago by its previous previous owner. It was not the current owner who damaged it.

[Anonymous No.10441567]

>>10441434
I don’t mind when people alter their clothes to suit their bodies, but you really can’t expect it to hold the same value should you decide to sell it. I bet she could get a good price for it if she took it to a seamstress to have it repaired.

[Anonymous No.10441605]

>>10441491
I think it’s fine. International shipping is a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.10441616]

>>10441501
where did this one sell for $700? y!j?

[Anonymous No.10441619]

Get ready for the itas.

[Anonymous No.10441621]

>>10441619

[Anonymous No.10441622]

>>10441616
Yup. If I’m not mistaken, started bid was like 400 bucks and someone has sniped it for 700 near the end of the auction.

[Anonymous No.10441627]

>>10441507
Yup, and undamaged too

[Anonymous No.10441631]

>>10441621
Is this the plus plus size measurements? I’m dreading seeing fatties ruin this gorgeous dress.

[Anonymous No.10441642]

>>10441564
She’s been wearing it though and wearing a damaged dress accelerates its decay. Without the elastic holding it in place, the velvet has probably slowly been stretching out.

[Anonymous No.10441646]

>>10441627
Just wondering was that a piece from >>10441501 ?

[Anonymous No.10441653]

any good lolita asmr?

[Anonymous No.10441654]

>>10441631
Yes. A land whale could comfortably wear that jsk.

[Anonymous No.10441666]

>>10441631
Proof that people will still whine even when multiple size options are available

[Anonymous No.10441668]

>>10441631

No worries, it's wa lolita. The weeabos already ruined it anyway.

I'm more interested to see if fatties will actually buy it. They complain so much about burandos not catering to their sizes but they rarely put their money where their mouth is, preferring to stuff it full of more junk food.

[Anonymous No.10441669]

>>10441668
every single overweight lolita bought honey cake so they are definitely willing to spend

[Anonymous No.10441670]

>>10441669

Fatties stuffing themselves into AP is nothing new, though. For some reason they insist on buying AP even when it's a smaller size and not Honeycake.

I'm interested to know if they'll spend money on other brands that aren't AP, that's catering to larger sizes.

[Anonymous No.10441674]

>>10441670
implying they'd expand their wardrobe for something out of the realm of AP pastel sweet

[Anonymous No.10441677]

>>10441674

That's what I mean, they whined about VM and MM deserving to close down due to the lack of larger sizes. Neither of those brands were AP sweet, it's just fatties running their mouths.

Now we'll see if they buy larger sizes from Meta either. I bet they don't, there was always something wrong with their heads anyway.

[Anonymous No.10441682]

>>10441653
I liked this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7gzkz7-Pk

[Anonymous No.10441685]

>>10441677
Isn't VM still open?

[Anonymous No.10441686]

>>10441367
Cope harder with that stale bait, I actually went to cof to like that picture just to spite you.

[Anonymous No.10441695]

>>10440622
Nope. A lot of sjws don't consider east Asians poc either. Only people with brown skin.

[Anonymous No.10441705]

>>10441685
They were supposed to close some time in 2018, but people bought enough from their swan song releases that someone higher up thought it would be profitable to keep going (I think they were bought?).

[Anonymous No.10441706]

>>10441682
Ahh yes, the sweet sound of unpacking new brand

[Anonymous No.10441743]

>>10441677
All the people I know who claimed that they “would totally have given VM sooo much of my money if only they had made things in bigger sizes!” are AP/Taobao sweet lolitas. A lot of them don’t even own any non-print dresses, let alone VM style classic. They’re so full of shit.

[Anonymous No.10441752]

>>10441631

I could have sworn people already posted about this and they showed the plus size and apparently "Plus-plus" size (?) Measurements on their site for a while. Why do people suddenly like Meta and care about wa? (I love Meta but hate most wa. The only piece I've seen that I find cute is the last AP release) it's weird to me that a thread or two ago this was brought up and no one cares until now. If Meta is making it for fatties they want fatties to wear it. The brand is endorsing it. Weird though cause many other Meta pieces don't go that large besides older fully shirred stuff and that one tent like sailor OP.

[Anonymous No.10441758]

>>10441752
Don't most Meta releases have pretty generous shirring? I've owned two JSKs from them (2005 and 2012) and I could put on both of them without undoing the zipper.

[Anonymous No.10441763]

>>10441758

I don't ever notice because I tend to just put anything partially shirred on without undoing the zipper (especially because brand zippers are always trash and I want to avoid using them)

[Anonymous No.10441766]

>>10441743
This

[Anonymous No.10441767]

>>10441766

Yeah as a sweet idk why other sweets pretend they'd have given non sweet brands money when they barely like to give the sweet brands money firsthand, in the US at least.

[Anonymous No.10441768]

>>10441682
>>10441653
I am super into this. If there was a regular posting person doing this I would subscribe in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous No.10441828]

>>10441706
>>10441768
Not quite the same, but I kinda liked frills falling down in slow mo to funky music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO10f40mXzo

[Anonymous No.10441906]

AATP releasing gathered chiffon for the upteenth time and i see fatties complaining yet again that it only goes up to 27inches for the waist. 27 inches for a waist if you are under 5"6 is plenty. They look poor anyway they probably wouldn't buy it even if it was bigger

[Anonymous No.10441909]

>>10441906
AATP would get more sales if they accommodated fatty Chinese lolitas though. Just a few more cm to the bust and waist.

[Anonymous No.10441910]

>>10441909
True. But then again fatties rather put money in their mouths instead of putting the fork down to try and fit into brands

[Anonymous No.10441935]

>>10441556
Someone bid on it. I know we hate emoji here but I’m facepalming

[Anonymous No.10441953]

>>10441909
>fatty Chinese lolitas
is this a joke

[Anonymous No.10441957]

>>10441906
>27 inches=fat
>"look poor"
This is such lazy bait.

[Anonymous No.10441964]

>>10441957
never said 27 inches was fat,projecting your insecurities there maybe?
It definitely is a normal waist unless you're over 5"6 or under 5"4. Then you're either really skinny or chubby.
And by "look poor" i mean that they look messy and cheap in their profile pictures

[Anonymous No.10441977]

>>10441953
Do you even weibo

[Anonymous No.10441987]

>>10441070
Lemme guess is from Italy right?

[Anonymous No.10441990]

>>10441977
i do actually. 95% are thin, same as japanese lolitas.

[Anonymous No.10442001]

>>10441504
Outdoor rock climbing is an ita hobby. It's dirty and full of gross people who should never touch brand.

[Anonymous No.10442002]

>>10442001
Take your bad bait and go.

[Anonymous No.10442021]

>>10441499
If this is about who I think it is, she's been in the fashion for less than a year and she's still pretty decent. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.10442027]

Damn, bitches on LM really out here thinking people are gonna pay $350 for a basic Usakumya. $300 max is standard for the normal full sized rucksack. Pretty sure the huge one direct from BABY is about that much before shipping. I wonder if LM users like this are just desperate for cash or don't realize western lolitas know about fril

[Anonymous No.10442031]

>>10442001
You sound like a pearl clutching princess wannabe. But that's probably bait,so.

[Anonymous No.10442037]

>>10442027

She just added a bidding price starting lower; wonder if she reads here and adjusted it kek

[Anonymous No.10442038]

>>10441479
Look at how it sags down on one side, ugh. Most inept of fat wastrels. Girl on the right isn't even that skinny and fits into it just fine.

[Anonymous No.10442039]

>>10442001
You sound retarded.

[Anonymous No.10442044]

>>10441642
That is.... not how that works at all....

[Anonymous No.10442048]

>>10442001
I find the implication that indoor rock climbing is not an ita hobby, and possibly should be done in brand, amusing and evocative.

[Anonymous No.10442054]

>>10441743
I know one who says that who is thin but just a poorfag. She wears exclusively offbrand and says stuff like that to fit in.

[Anonymous No.10442060]

>>10441479

I'm confused at what exactly I'm looking at here

[Anonymous No.10442070]

>>10441906
>gathered chiffon for the umpteenth time
Re-release Trianon you fucking cowards!

[Anonymous No.10442072]

>>10442060
tifferet

[Anonymous No.10442087]

>>10441935
I was hoping no one would and she would drop the price like she has done with all her other listings after a couple of days

[Anonymous No.10442092]

>>10442087
Why, so you could bid on it?

[Anonymous No.10442099]

>>10442048
I don't see why not, I've done bouldering in an AP cutsew and salopette before.

[Anonymous No.10442107]

>>10441906
Gathered Chiffon is so fucking ugly I don’t know what people see in it

[Anonymous No.10442133]

>>10442072

I guess I'm new but who or what is tifferet? The girl with the weird ribbon on her dress?

[Anonymous No.10442140]

Fuck the person scalping all the mint Ice Cream Parlor jewelry and acessories on LM right now reeee

[Anonymous No.10442149]

>>10442039
>>10442031
You sound like an ita

[Anonymous No.10442257]

>>10440655
>all tea length, again, not a single normal dress

For fuck's sake, IW, I WANT to buy your shit.

[Anonymous No.10442261]

>>10441621
Max waist is 120cm?! Holy shit that’s huge. I wonder how bad it’s going to look on someone who is close to the max...RIP

[Anonymous No.10442283]

Vierge Vampur will be opening their online shop on Thursday, 23rd June, 22:00 JST. All sales are ready stock.
>https://viergevampur.thebase.in/

[Anonymous No.10442284]

>>10442133
someone else correct me if i'm wrong, but a long while before the CTP rerelease back when it was still one of the most coveted and rare prints (as in, someone did the math and estimated there were only 55~ in circulation total), middle woman decided to cut up and "alter" her CTP because she was too big for it. you can see the mismatched and wonky fabric on her left side. she wrapped a bunch of ribbon around her waist to hide it.

[Anonymous No.10442291]

>>10442133
Here’s a screenshot from the archives

[Anonymous No.10442294]

>>10442283
>https://viergevampur.thebase.in/
fuckkk yeah
can we get some coord pics? I don't think I've seen most of those cuts for the spoon print

[Anonymous No.10442301]

>>10442283
Oh wow, I remember some of these being a lot of anons' dream dresses. Hopefully anybody who wants one will be able to get their hands on one.

[Anonymous No.10442321]

>>10441758
Meta has always had generous shirring. Look at Lor in her Telephone JSK from 2006...

[Anonymous No.10442345]

New horoscope themed print by Meta, called 'Horoscope of Fate', which will come in 2 cuts and 3 colourways

Imo its ugly, but don't people love horoscopes?

[Anonymous No.10442346]

>>10442345
The jsk cut

[Anonymous No.10442348]

>>10442346
They're also selling this weird blouse

[Anonymous No.10442349]

>>10442283
I am very hyped. Anyone know what their prices are like so I can prepare my wallet?

[Anonymous No.10442351]

>>10442349
The prices are literally on the images anon

[Anonymous No.10442352]

>>10442291
>implying that was a professional job
Why does she use so many words instead of admitting the dress is butchered?

[Anonymous No.10442353]

>>10442351
RIP sorry I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.10442354]

>>10442149
You sound like you hate on people who stay in shape, for obvious reasons. Sorry you don't fit OS burando.

[Anonymous No.10442366]

>>10442345
>>10442346
Why is everything about it so hideous? I love fortune tarot and would've killed for new cuts and colorways. But not these cuts

[Anonymous No.10442369]

>>10442349
ayrt
VV was featured in some GLBs, so I went to take a look. As far as I can tell, the Alice dress went for 29,900 yen, so I'd expect the prices to be somewhere around there.

[Anonymous No.10442371]

>>10442149
Yeah because real lolitas sit around stuffing their faces until they get so fat they can't fit into their brand without botching it. Being morbidly obese is kawaii, staying active and in shape is not, according to you.

[Anonymous No.10442372]

>>10442348
Honestly I think the blouse is the nicest of the three. Paired with a simple jsk or skirt it could work

[Anonymous No.10442373]

>>10442351
The website is under construction for me at the moment

[Anonymous No.10442418]

>>10441441
No.
Sometimes the elastic is just too tight to wear a piece comfortably. This happens extremely often with skirts but may be true to jsks as well. If you're above average japanese height, the elastic of a jsk will squeese your ribcage which may affect breathing and cause fainting.

[Anonymous No.10442431]

>>10442418
elastic won't make you faint or squeeze your ribs in any dangerous way, retard at most it's uncomfortable and puts pressure on the stomach. the real issue is the max measurement is just that, the max. it's a can vs. should situation. generally if the min is 10cm or more than the max it will look like shit and be lumpy until the rubber stretches out to accommodate it because it's made to return to the min measurement after wearing.

[Anonymous No.10442438]

>>10442418
In my experience as someone above average Japanese height, if you're under max measurements, it's not the elastic that's the problem, but the cut is too high to sit comfortably on the body. The dress isn't properly portioned to your body then, and taking out the elastic will do nothing for that. It's mainly a problem with older pieces since newer ones are typically more generous in sizing but the skirts are too short.

[Anonymous No.10442449]

>>10442284
how do you calculate how many dresses were in circulation? I always wondered about this when it comes to older dresses

[Anonymous No.10442460]

>>10442449
you can't. it's all just guessing.

[Anonymous No.10442472]

>>10442449

Originally it was a tea party exclusive and there is probably a cap to tea party attendance or a guesstimate of who all attended, right? Maybe they just estimated based on that since people going probably want the exclusive piece. In the case of other dresses, especially unlimited MTOs, there is no way to guess (which is why people scalping the Honey Cake MTO lower quality dress just cracks me up knowing it's not at all rare.)

[Anonymous No.10442609]

>>10442283
Wow finally. Thank you covid, for forcing Japanese indie to finally finish their websites.

[Anonymous No.10442670]

According to people on RC, aprons are considered ita now? Since when? I guess I missed that memo

[Anonymous No.10442673]

>>10442670
I think the thread about the coffin jsk said everything we need to know about ruffle chat. Newfags, newfags everywhere. It's best to leave that hell hole.

[Anonymous No.10442678]

>>10442673
>the thread about the coffin jsk
care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.10442684]

>>10442670
What kind of garbage take is this? Just because they can't coord it right doesn't make it ita.

[Anonymous No.10442685]

>>10442678
This was discussed in the gothic lolita thread, but I'll give you a run down of the comments
>I can get this from *insert normie store here*
>Too small!
>Is this even lolita?
>Boring. Not enough satanic hamsters
>Too plain for the price
>I can sew this myself!

[Anonymous No.10442687]

>>10442685
>I can sew this myself!
That's an absolute fucking lie on their part.

[Anonymous No.10442741]

>>10439952
Have fun finding a hundred-year-old pair of bloomers.

[Anonymous No.10442745]

Does it bother anyone else that Lacemarket deletes PMs from your Sent folder whenever the other party deletes them on their account? I really feel like this function can be abused, and now I regret not backing up some of my messages that got deleted, though I didn't think I had to in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10442781]

>>10442745
Are they still in your emails??

[Anonymous No.10442783]

>>10442348
The blouse looks like something Jane Marple would release, I'm into it

[Anonymous No.10442912]

Any anon who has a delivery from JetJ (I've just been told my yukata is ready to ship) should check the delivery address they've got. I'd asked them to verify the shipping address and they'd had the wrong name and wrong country.

[Anonymous No.10442935]

Thoughts on Baby update. Personally I really like these side frills on bodice, wish they did an apron with that style.

[Anonymous No.10442937]

>>10442935

[Anonymous No.10442938]

Thoughts on Baby update. Personally I really like these side frills on bodice, wish they did an apron with that style.

[Anonymous No.10442939]

>>10442938

[Anonymous No.10442940]

>>10442938
Preview turns out to be a picture for ants so here we go

[Anonymous No.10442941]

>>10442940

[Anonymous No.10442942]

>>10442941

[Anonymous No.10442943]

>>10442942

[Anonymous No.10442944]

>>10442943

[Anonymous No.10442945]

>>10442940
I'm not sure how I feel about this. The red ribbon shines in such a way at the bottom that signals to me that it could look cheap in real life. I love the overall design though.

[Anonymous No.10442947]

>>10442945

I think it looks off because the red looks shinier than the blue despite darker colors normally reflecting light shines more obviously. I think it's because the blue and white ribbons may he different material while the red is satin ribbon.

[Anonymous No.10442952]

Just got an email from Meta telling me they're going to give up on EMS resuming and ship the bag I bought during their sale via DHL, but I hate DHL and don't want to get hit with their stupid fees- think I can tell them no on this?

Has anyone else gotten a similar message and managed to ask them to wait? (I'm in the US so generally customs aren't something I have to worry about.)

>>10440655
>>10440656
>>10440684
This. I don't MIND these solid dresses, even if a lot of them are getting awfully samey, but I know from my last few purchases with them that the quality just isn't going to be good. As long as they keep using that shitty thin poly for their OP's and exclusively making these absurdly long cuts, I'm not buying them anymore.

>>10440658
They never put any wearable solid dresses in LP's anyway (outside the suuuper cheap one they produced specifically for the pack last year).

[Anonymous No.10442956]

>>10442952

If you are in the US DHL should be fine with no extra fees. Maybe it is dependent on your state but it should be fine.

Glad to know Meta is switching to DHL though, if it's as cheap as the rates for CDJAPAN I can buy some shoes and socks and pad out my wardrobe a bit.

[Anonymous No.10442958]

>>10442956
I've definitely been hit with fees from DHL before. Did a Bodyline group order with a lolita friend many years ago and it got hit, haven't used them since. Maybe they changed things? I'm in NYC so I'm close to a shipping depot.

[Anonymous No.10442963]

>>10442958

Ahh I'm in Texas so maybe it's different by state? I've never done the over $800 so never even got hit by customs but a group order would probably go over that amount and get customs and potentially other fees?

[Anonymous No.10442989]

>>10442940
Italy-kei

[Anonymous No.10443000]

>>10442989
Why?

[Anonymous No.10443003]

>>10442989
...Are you thinking of the French flag, anon?

[Anonymous No.10443010]

>>10443000
>>10443003
I think maybe anon was thinking of something like a Gondolier costume? The French tricolore uses a brighter blue

[Anonymous No.10443025]

>>10442989
>>10443003
those are MURICA colors, eurofags

[Anonymous No.10443250]

Mesh blouses look so cheap and trash and im sick of how popular they are how much they get reccomended to newbies.

[Anonymous No.10443255]

>>10442952
That's not true, I got a lovely solid OP in a LP a few years ago that I regret selling ( printfag and got obsessed with like count on SM)

[Anonymous No.10443260]

>>10443255
How long ago? They used to, back when oddment packs were still actually good, before 2017 or so (whenever it was they had that year where they produced almost nothing because they had so much dead stock; when they resumed production after that is when we got the current dip in overall quality).

But ever since then, in the current of IW, I've not seen a single oddment pack posted (nor pieces listed for sale from them after) where IW put in their many newer releases of solids, despite them being on the sale section of the site for a year+.

[Anonymous No.10443539]

>>10442670
Rufflechat is filled with 80% itas and lolitas at heart. Never take their idiotic opinions as truth.

[Anonymous No.10443596]

>>10443000
>>10443003
Nvm, i thought it was a green ribbon judging from the picture

[Anonymous No.10443673]

>>10443530
New thread

[Anonymous No.10444948]

>>10442685
low key need a satanic hamster dress now.