Angelic Pretty General: More Ice Cream edition

[Anonymous No.10452582]

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[Anonymous No.10452596]

>>10452582
I think this shade of pink is so ugly with whatever color that is. In addition to the fact that this print is on a trash bag is just... it’s a mood, I guess. A 2020 mood.

[Anonymous No.10452598]

>>10452596

I saw the same exact colors for a sports bra today on Instagram and even on athletic wear the colors in this combo are garish and tacky. Plus as an anon mentioned last thread there was already a mint colorway. Maybe they're saving lavender for a store exclusive special set. Heck, even pink x brown eould have been better for a choco strawberry ice cream look if they're gonna reuse colors from other colorways anyway.

[Anonymous No.10452601]

>>10452598
They really missed out on doing a neopolitan colorway

[Anonymous No.10452604]

>>10452598
Shibuya is clearly their lavender store (though Yokohama got the magic bunny jewelry Shibuya gets everything else lavender) so maybe they’ll get it. Still not a good thing for foreigners though.

[Anonymous No.10452606]

>>10452517
I looked for tiered skirt dress in ivory or beige, preferably OP with short sleeves to wear comfortably in summer. Idk man, I tried to look up RP, but this print is not really my thing.

[Anonymous No.10452608]

>>10452582
God this print is such a hot mess there is just too much going on

[Anonymous No.10452621]

>>10452601
truly a missed opportunity

[Anonymous No.10452626]

>>10452582
I can't understand why anyone would cry over missing this, it's ugly as hell lmao. But APfags will be APfags.

[Anonymous No.10452630]

>>10452626
slut.

[Anonymous No.10452632]

>>10452630
Seethe harder.

[Anonymous No.10452635]

I have no issues with AP fans but the fact that AP has consistently been putting out prints like this that really miss the mark and is putting out more and more polyester is turning me off from them. I think I'm going to stick to buying older pieces secondhand

[Anonymous No.10452639]

>>10452635
I actually like the ice cream print but I’ve missed it three times now and that completely sucks all the joy out of it. I don’t know why AP won’t do a damn MTO of this print, I was expecting one during the bazaar but I guess they don’t want my money and the money of hundreds of other desperate girls.

[Anonymous No.10452640]

I got my Toy Doll Box MTO a few days ago, and it's beautiful. It reminded me that it's probably the last truly sweet dress AP is ever going to release that had good quality and still had the "mark" of AP.
The release was 2018 which just demonstrates how quickly AP just crumbled.

[Anonymous No.10452643]

>>10452582
desu i think text in prints should be kept to a minimum

[Anonymous No.10452661]

>>10452643
Agreed, this is why I didn’t care too much for this print.

I strongly disagree with a lot of people’s opinion on the “decline” of AP, I can’t ever recall a time where I loved every single print they launched. It’s easier to look back on older stuff and feel nostalgic if there’s nothing current that appeals to you. But I wouldn’t consider it a major fall from grace. I don’t mind the newer fabrics either. They’re easier to store, launder, and wear. What I am sick of tho, is how much crazier the bloodbaths are now.

[Anonymous No.10452664]

>>10452661
Demand has gone up but obviously supply hasn’t risen to meet it and it’s annoying

[Anonymous No.10452673]

>>10452639
there are SO MANY mtos they could do that would rake in money from lolitas all over the world. but they refuse to do them. what kind of company refuses easy piles of money?? i don't understand

[Anonymous No.10452687]

AP just need to re-release a ton of their popular 2010 sweet prints and people would eat that shit up. idk why they don't. They should mimic BTSSB with having a 'basic' inventory all the time, and have simple jewellery, socks and blouses available for people to just add on to orders

[Anonymous No.10452698]

>>10452687
AP keeps rereleasing the Sweetie Ribbon socks and sure they’re cute but cmon give us more. I want them to release the Topping Heart socks again but I’m not holding my breath.

[Anonymous No.10452786]

>>10452640
Reading this made me really glad I bought it. I'm still waiting to get mine bc corona shipping. What is the fabric if you know? Back when I ordered I didn't care about fabric but now all the polyester makes me sad, if Toy Doll Box is cotton I will be so happy.

[Anonymous No.10452794]

>>10452601
I'm a gothic lolita and I'd buy that. Well, if it weren't printed on garbage.

[Anonymous No.10452814]

>>10452661
I don't think anyone is saying they loved 100% of everything AP used to put out. But in the past, even the releases I didn't like I could at least still say "yeah, it's not my thing, but I can understand the appeal and it's well made". Now I can just say "well here comes more trash hot from the sweatshops"

[Anonymous No.10452822]

>>10452582
I really like this colorway but im tacky so thats expected

[Anonymous No.10452915]

>>10452786
Sorry for the late reply! It's cotton! Has the original glitter too. It's really gorgeous. Almost cried when I saw it because getting a brand new dress from AP is kind of magic. I'm a sweet lolita so I always buy secondhand. I think this is only the third dress I've bought new and I have 60+ AP dresses.

>>10452698
I'm so hungry for good socks that I ordered doubles of the Topping Heart socks. In every colorway except red. I wish AP would have a good stock of cute socks but it's usually just trash that never sells.

[Anonymous No.10452922]

>>10452639
I feel the same. I hate the bloodbaths. I have missed out on this dress enough that I am losing interest in it. There will always be something else.

[Anonymous No.10452992]

Fantastic world map is ugly as hell
and I like classic/steampunk-esque stuff

[Anonymous No.10452993]

OP dress is better but I don't get why everybody is fawning over it

[Anonymous No.10452994]

>>10452993

Is anyone really fawning over it though? Cgl clearly hates it. The only good colorways is brown/beige and even that's not great...are other, non-Chinese AP hypebeast, non-brand-model lolitas actually excited for it?

[Anonymous No.10452995]

>>10452993
>everybody
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.10453095]

>>10452915
Yay I'm so happy! I'm in the same boat, this was my second time buying a new dress from AP.

[Anonymous No.10453123]

An outfit example from jap twitter. HUF hat is lol, yet it matches perfectly.

[Anonymous No.10453124]

>>10453123
I love this kind of sleeveless.

[Anonymous No.10453125]

>>10453123
I love this kind of sleeves.

[Anonymous No.10453134]

>>10452992
this was a disappointment

[Anonymous No.10453163]

>>10453125
This looks like a shitty handmade jsk from sew_loli made of quilting fabric.

[Anonymous No.10453190]

>>10453123
McDonald’s Barbie kei

[Anonymous No.10453194]

>>10453163
>>10453190
shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10453202]

>>10453194

Fancy candy is cute but these hot pink colors (ICP in particular) just fucking suck.

[Anonymous No.10453212]

>>10453125
It's a shame the fabric for this dress is so shitty. I love the sax colourway but know irl it would be a huge disappointment.

[Anonymous No.10453218]

>>10453194
Samefag. >>10452630
People think your hot pink x cat puke ICP is ugly. Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.10453293]

>>10453125
Think they missed the mark with this one this looks like some terrible handmade you'd find on Etsy desu

[Anonymous No.10453304]

>>10453123
>>10453125
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.10453305]

Where is the AP price-ceiling tho?

[Anonymous No.10453308]

>>10453305

Damn, this isn't even the cute Lyrical Bunny jewelry

[Anonymous No.10453312]

>>10453308
I think it's cute. It's also the best colorway of that particular necklace. But not $350 cute. I think Japanese sellers are just seeing how high they can price things before buyers stop biting.

[Anonymous No.10453316]

>>10453312
most of them are probably gaijin.

[Anonymous No.10453319]

>>10453308
>>10453312
I was wondering if it was in high demand or something

[Anonymous No.10453329]

>>10453305
this is pocket change for rich bitches

[Anonymous No.10453337]

>>10453312

Compared to the classic lyrical bunny face only jewelry I don't like these full body ones as much, so I see the others as the cute ones by comparison lol.

Like these aren't ugly of course but still

[Anonymous No.10453502]

>>10452582
>>10453123
>>10453125
barf

[Anonymous No.10453503]

>>10453305
This is normal for Fril and Mercari. Buyers typically negotiate the price in the comment section unless if the seller specifically says they can't reduce the price. Take your newness somewhere else

[Anonymous No.10453557]

>>10453125
surely they could have used a nicer material and still get the same effect

[Anonymous No.10453619]

PC for under 15k yen atm https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d462667804

Also two more listings in rather habitual price range
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v740558116
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n446292126

[Anonymous No.10454025]

Someone needs to make a petition for a cotton Sugary Carnival rerelease

[Anonymous No.10454034]

>>10454025
You can be the one

[Anonymous No.10454052]

>>10454025
then do it

[Anonymous No.10454053]

>>10453503
Anon... I specifically posted this listing because the seller put they don't accept price negotiations. You would have seen that if you bothered to even check.

Way to fail.

[Anonymous No.10454055]

>>10453503
is this the same idiot posting in the buyers/sellers thread?

[Anonymous No.10454062]

>>10454053
>Lily Canny
I love Google translate

[Anonymous No.10454143]

>>10454053
It's going to sit on the site collecting dust, it's as simple as that

>>10454055
Way to out yourself that you have no idea how to use secondhand markets in Japan but keep embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.10454151]

>>10454143
I've been shopping on Japanese secondhand shops for a decade but sure I don't know anything and you, random person on the internet, do

[Anonymous No.10454176]

Lately I’ve become more and more fond of older simple AP coords, just a full set with a white blouse and knee high boots or simple shoes. Maybe it’s because all of a sudden OTT is everywhere but I’m nostalgic for a time where people just let the dress speak for itself. Then again with the last few releases I feel like the dress itself doesn’t have much to say. And it’s really hard to get a full set these days with the current blood baths for new stuff and all the older stuff getting super high priced and the sets long since split up

[Anonymous No.10454231]

>>10454151
You're either lying or incredibly stupid on secondhand sites work kek

[Anonymous No.10454232]

>>10454053
NTA but you didn't show the item description in your original screen grab

[Anonymous No.10454237]

What happened to my post with PC listings?

[Anonymous No.10454245]

>>10454231
Have you ever actually used a shopping service or are you just larping, because it sounds like you're larping

[Anonymous No.10454247]

>>10454237
If a post gets deleted its likely due to derailing

[Anonymous No.10454254]

>>10454232
I didn't, but if the other anon was serious about memeing that I was "new," they could have easily looked up the listing the day I posted it. It's not that hard, and they shouldn't have been surmising the seller's terms when they didn't even bother to research the listing.

I hate this "community" more and more every day because of how often I have to spoon-feed people information.

[Anonymous No.10454256]

I was refreshing and waiting for today's CC update. People HAVE to be using bots - there's no way people can go through pages of items all at once and have things sell out instantly

[Anonymous No.10454257]

>>10454256
I clicked the "pay now" button... I was milliseconds away and it was sold. Stupid Sugary Carnival. At least it was faded and discolored.

I want CC to have a capcha.

[Anonymous No.10454258]

>>10454257
>>10454256
I'm inclined to believe you guys. There was a mint condition SC (although in black) some months ago, and that took around 11 hours to sell.

[Anonymous No.10454261]

>>10454257
>>10454258
Sorry you missed out on SC anons. CC updates never used to be this cutthroat. Like I refreshed, saw SC for all of 2 seconds, then it disappeared.

[Anonymous No.10454262]

>>10454258
I'm pretty obsessive about CC and it started to get bad after April of this year. I noticed a very sudden change. Even the site started to lag and crash.

I wait for the updates every day, and I used to get what I wanted pretty easily if I was attentive. Now I can't get anything. It's like a 20% I'm successful on semi-popular items. But the dresses are basically impossible.

[Anonymous No.10454264]

>>10454256
Are you in America?

[Anonymous No.10454265]

>>10454261
I'm >>10454262 and I'm admittedly using handicaps of my own. The fact that I'm struggling to get anything really tells me that it's next level. So, pretty sure it's botting. It makes me sad. The only reason I started cutting corners was because competition has spiked. I'm quicker than ever before, and I'm still failing.

[Anonymous No.10454266]

>>10454265
What did you do to cut corners

[Anonymous No.10454267]

>>10454266
Not to sound petty, but I'm not here to share my methods, just to express how bad it's gotten. I'm not looking to add to my own competition.

[Anonymous No.10454269]

>>10454264
Yes.

>>10454265
Makes me sad too anon. Quick, someone tell the Chinese richlitas that uh, Meta is the next big trend (seriously though - I just want to buy my AP in relative peace in a normally competitive market. Not unreasonably impossible)

[Anonymous No.10454270]

>>10454269
I hope the next "trend" happens quickly too. I want to continue buying items in peace like you said and not have a 0% success rate while trying harder and being smarter then ever before. It's even more frustrating that we're kind of alone in this. I'm not seeing the same insane demand for any other brand.

[Anonymous No.10454273]

>>10454270
Agreed! I'm getting back into lolita after a hiatus and wow, couldn't have picked a more awful time. I'm no stranger to bloodbaths or having to act quickly but this is just insane.

That said - I hope you can find all your wishlist items at a good price and with relative ease! Best of luck. At this point I don't know if I can keep trying for CC updates and be disappointed every time..

[Anonymous No.10454291]

>>10454247
What's so derailing about PC listings?

[Anonymous No.10454293]

>>10454267
if competition has spiked and you're failing to buy anything with your methods, why would i care to use the same ones? im curious because someone mentioned using a bot.

[Anonymous No.10454300]

>>10454025
Petition anon at your service. I actually made these a few days ago, I just didn't know where to share it without being accused of spamming or have it being deleted.

http://chng.it/Rhjv542z
Sugary carnival in all cuts and colorways with milky pony bags

And if you want it

http://chng.it/6Tv2dxqYk2
Milky planet first release cuts in all cuts and colors

[Anonymous No.10454301]

>>10452994
>>10452995
lolita updates on facebook, but what could I have expected anyway

[Anonymous No.10454308]

>>10454300
americans are so weird. why do you guys make so many petitions? you know they wont care right nor will it do anything? honey cake got a come back because it was heavily requested so if you care so much then do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.10454313]

>>10454308
What do you think a petition is?

[Anonymous No.10454323]

>>10454300

Um. For all the griping over plastic AP jewelry being scalped, you left out the request for Magical Pony and Milky Planet jewelry, though?

[Anonymous No.10454324]

>>10454308
Wasn't Honey Cake because of petition anon..?

[Anonymous No.10454328]

>>10454300
It would be actually cool if those could be shared on FB comm. Probably, you should better share it on FB first. Although I don't want to overly criticize it, you did a good thing.

[Anonymous No.10454329]

>>10454308
>because it was heavily requested

[Anonymous No.10454330]

>>10454300
I don't want it if it's not in cotton

[Anonymous No.10454338]

>>10454273
Thanks anon. I'm truly sorry that CC and the secondhand market are so unfriendly right now. I keep trying because I'd regret it if I didn't, but I feel the same way.

[Anonymous No.10454341]

>>10454313
from what i was told AP asked what prints their audience wants to have a come back. you vote in a form not in a petition.

[Anonymous No.10454344]

>>10454300
i have no clue if this will get anywhere but i'm curious to see how many signs it'll get. i signed both.

[Anonymous No.10454360]

I’m really enjoying watching auctions on LaceMarket and watching the poorfag seethe. Get used to it you entitled fucks. I hope next time sugary carnival actually does end up at $2000+

[Anonymous No.10454364]

>>10454360
I don’t think new people have seen expensive lolita markets and it shows. Shit like botting is genuinely a problem but someone asking for and getting high prices for a JSK is not the same, sorry.

[Anonymous No.10454368]

>>10454300
I don't want it if it's made for dwarves.
Make it 90cm and no shorter ffs

[Anonymous No.10454384]

>>10454360
I don’t care for SC but it’s kind of crazy people buy a dress for $2k

[Anonymous No.10454390]

>>10454300
I signed them. I would love nothing more...

[Anonymous No.10454422]

>>10454360
Poorfag meme is overused. Wealthy people also don't enjoy spending large amounts of money for something that has been cheaper in the past. It's clear the bids on SC were out of desperation.

[Anonymous No.10454431]

I mean it’s obvious why the prices are getting so high: quarantine and excess money. I’ve bought I believe 5-6 dresses over the last few months because I got a promotion right before covid but now I have no trips/weekend plans to spend money on. People are just bored and lonely and using retail therapy to cope. Once a vaccine comes out and Americans can go out again the market will go back to normal.

[Anonymous No.10454435]

>>10454431
I hope so, but if you believe anything a lot of scientists are saying, it could be the end of 2021 or even 2022 before anything is close to normal. I'm willing to wait because I'm not just going to quit liking AP in the meantime, but it sucks that it's so far away.

To me, it's funny that people have excess money, when the news can't shut up about people not having any money at all.

[Anonymous No.10454437]

>>10454435
i think people who were buying lolita before covid were most likely in a pretty good situation and still are now. its really just the poor getting poorer which is sad...based on what ive been hearing i think people will start going out a lot more early 2021 because thats when the first vaccine should be available. fingers crossed at least

[Anonymous No.10454441]

I hate all the people who are driving up the sweet market currently so much. I’m making a list of all of them. On lacemarket, people who I see on insta posting about buying x items on mercari that I can match to expensive listings, ALL of you are cunts and are going to be shamed. You think you can make life harder for everyone else well you’re wrong. I see you buying $100 wristcuffs. I see you bidding way above what things went for last year. I see you paying scalped prices for damaged pieces. I see you buying $60 socks. Your actions won’t go unpunished. So many popular girls on insta doing these things. What would people really think of them if they knew how they are damaging the market for everyone else?

[Anonymous No.10454443]

>>10454360
Nice LARPing.If you spend that much on SC you might be "rich" but you need to get some taste ASAP

[Anonymous No.10454445]

>>10454441
Why don't you put all that effort into being less of a poorfag?

[Anonymous No.10454446]

>>10454441
Shit bait

[Anonymous No.10454447]

>>10454435
>To me, it's funny that people have excess money, when the news can't shut up about people not having any money at all.
The news is just ridiculously out of touch. They listen to idiots on Twitter who blow all their money constantly then e-beg and complain about how everyone is poor.

[Anonymous No.10454449]

>>10454441
lololol exactly what kind of punishment are they going to get??? people are allowed to buy dirty $75 socks with their own money, does that really make life hard for you?

[Anonymous No.10454454]

>>10454441
>Your actions won’t go unpunished
I hope this is... bait?

I mean, I hate it too, but I just hate the crazy stuff (aka $400 lollipop necklace, $1k+ SC) . You mentioned $100 wrist cuffs, but those lyrical bunny cuffs were $65+ directly from AP USA, so a $35 mark up is actually still "reasonable." I'm guilty of buying $50 socks because they are unworn, rare pairs.

I get being upset, but this level of upset is what makes other people discredit us entirely.

[Anonymous No.10454460]

>>10454441
You're failing to grasp at the root problem here - AP not making enough stock to meet demand. People paying SC for $2000 is the consequence

>>10454454
$50-$60 socks is about retail price once you factor in shipping, too

[Anonymous No.10454462]

>>10454454
Someone posted something similar about “outing” people who are buying at the new market prices so I doubt it’s b8

[Anonymous No.10454465]

>>10454454
The 1k sugary carnival isn’t even that bad. It’s just returning to the 2010 market. The only thing truly crazy price wise lately was the $400 necklace

[Anonymous No.10454472]

>>10454465
The situation is different though. I would argue that $1k back then was due to how hard it was to get brand in the first place, and SC was the latest hype. The $1k right now is because people are clout-chasing, even though brand is easier than ever to get. I don't think it's really accurate to compare the two "time periods."

[Anonymous No.10454482]

>>10454472
>clout-chasing

No. The 2010 trend is getting popular again. The pieces are harder to find because there are less of them in general, and also less without significant damage. Those things combined are hiking the price up and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prices end up significantly surpassing what they used to be in the 2010 era thanks to the smaller amount of pieces from that area in circulation compared to back then. It doesn’t have to do with clout. People predicted this spike mid-late last year.

[Anonymous No.10454483]

>>10454447
Just because you surround yourself with rich people, doesn't make everyone rich.

[Anonymous No.10454494]

>>10454300
The only one I really want is the Special Set indigo blue, but there's no way it would get released unless the other colourways were released alongside it.

[Anonymous No.10454502]

>>10454482
I guess I underestimate the power of trends, but even ten years ago when sweet was popular, was jewelry really $150+? Were Pony bags $250+?

Maybe I have a hard time believing that so many willing and able people with thousands of extra dollars suddenly become interested in AP sweet in less than 6 months. It was a very sudden change, and I'd love to know the catalyst.

I said clout-chasing because once SC sells for $1k, someone else is going to want to own SC, because it's allegedly worth $1k. So then people are willing to pay more and more. At least, that's now my brain would work.

[Anonymous No.10454505]

>>10454502
I think it’s a lot of new people. I myself am newish, been around about 3 years. I started off saying i’d never be into pastel Sweet because I’m a grown woman blah blah and I bought a lot more jewel toned stuff and over the course of about a year I realized pastel stuff really is what I want. I snatched some stuff up about a year ago and thank god because all that same stuff would be too expensive for me now. I think there are quite a few people like that. I feel like a lot of people joined in the last few years. I also know several girls in my comm who sold off all their sweet stuff a couple years ago to get into Gothic and old school because it was super hyped and trendy, and then immediately regretted and have been trying to buy back the stuff they used to have

[Anonymous No.10454508]

>>10454447
Unemployment is like 20-30%...what are you smoking?

the people who haven’t lost their jobs (like me) are doing great, but acknowledging that a fifth to a third of the American population having no income is not “out of touch.” It’s almost unprecedented.

[Anonymous No.10454510]

>>10454441
>$100 wrist cuffs
>$60 socks
God I hate literally every person who got into lolita while sweet was cheap. This is normal. Welcome to normal.

[Anonymous No.10454513]

>>10454502
>Was jewelry really $150+? Were Pony bags $250+?
Yes??

[Anonymous No.10454524]

>>10454513
It was an honest question because I'm stupid. I wasn't buying back, then but I've had people tell me those prices were unprecedented

[Anonymous No.10454536]

>>10454513
It was an honest question because I'm stupid. I wasn't buying back then, but I've had people tell me those prices were unprecedented

[Anonymous No.10454539]

>>10454508
my friend on unemployment is making more than their salary and using this time and money to get certifications so they can get even better pay when they return. every time i talk to them they're casually bragging about it.

[Anonymous No.10454540]

>>10454536
> but I've had people tell me those prices were unprecedented

Those people are either retarded or LARPing as oldfags. $250 for the pony bags is unprecedented? Laughable. The $1k for sugary carnival isn’t unprecedented either.

[Anonymous No.10454546]

>>10454539
>friend is bragging about making less than $15 an hour
What

[Anonymous No.10454547]

>>10454539
So you have one person you know as anecdotal evidence. And they are happy to make minium wage off unemployment? Sounds like they weren't getting paid enough.

[Anonymous No.10454548]

>>10454540
Seriously, I got into lolita in 2012 and I remember $400-$500 dresses being fairly common place with $1000 dresses being rare but not “unprecedented”

[Anonymous No.10454549]

>>10454546
nayrt but if you're only making $7.25... that's doubling your money, and it feels like being rich in comparison. You also get to do nothing and have 40+ hours of your week back.

[Anonymous No.10454550]

>>10454547
What are you talking about. Federal minimum wage is still $7.25.And yes, people still get paid that. Not everyone lives in San Francisco where the minimum is $15.00

[Anonymous No.10454552]

>>10454549
Right but the fact that they were making $7.25 in the first place is literally pathetic

[Anonymous No.10454556]

>>10454552
Yeah minimum wage is way too low but this is a fashion board, let’s not get off topic

[Anonymous No.10454567]

I almost wrote an essay about females and ultra-consummerism. Be thankful I didn't, gulls, the icecream triggered me.

[Anonymous No.10454588]

>>10454494
Same. I feel a bit concerned with petition not mentioning special set directly even though it says “every cut and colourway”. It’s hard to predict whether AP decides to re-release it. Although that colorway fits Shibuya store aesthetic, let’s hang onto the hope :3

[Anonymous No.10454599]

>>10454360
I'm just upset I sold my SC set two years ago instead of now.

[Anonymous No.10454645]

Just bit the bullet and bought Toy Doll Box in sax. I hope it looks good on me. I liked Ice Cream Parlor but the polyester turned me off buying it.

[Anonymous No.10454659]

>>10454300
Are you the person who made the Honey Cake petition then spammed it to every Facebook group and lolita on Instagram then proceeded to bother people every few weeks? Don't do that again

[Anonymous No.10454669]

>>10454588
>>10454494
I have the special set colorway of SC, and I don't want to see it get remade in polyester - it was never that hard to find, never sold that much more than the other colors (in fact before the boom it was going for cheaper than sax and pink), and special set colorways don't really see re-releases (daydream bed, CDC, etc)

Honey cake MTO didn't get the Tokyo special set cut, neither should SC get the indigo blue color.

[Anonymous No.10454674]

>>10454669
Nayrt and I agree with you that special sets shouldn’t be rereleased but mentioning Honey Cake specifically is weird because of 4 cuts from the regular release, only one was rereleased anyway.

[Anonymous No.10454676]

>>10454599
No way you could have known. How many dresses lose a lot of value after 2 years instead? Especially since it's a now 10 year old dress.

[Anonymous No.10454679]

>>10454674
Honey Cake is the only example of AP actually listening to the western fanbase for a re-release of something, I don't have much point of reference to pull from

I guess I should have said, it only got Ivory and Yellow, SC only really needs Pink and Sax

[Anonymous No.10454687]

>>10454659
It is that girl, yes. She’s underage too. I don’t know why mods won’t ban her

[Anonymous No.10454690]

>>10454687
Figures. She's annoying as fuck and if she messages me about this petition, I'll block her

[Anonymous No.10454692]

>>10454599
Don't worry about it anon, everything is 20/20 only in hindsight. You needed the money then/wanted to get rid of it then/whatever

[Anonymous No.10454694]

>>10454687
What is so bad about starting a petition to show AP what its consumers want?

This just seems like such a petty thing to be so cunty about

[Anonymous No.10454749]

>>10454669
None of the dresses should be remade in polyester, cotton or nothing. And in my experience it was always either way more expensive than the other colours or got snapped up instantly.

[Anonymous No.10454754]

>>10454341
Is this true

[Anonymous No.10454755]

>>10454749
It's going to be polyester, just accept your fate

and here's a listing as proof that it wasn't going for much more than any other colorway:
https://www.mercari.com/jp/items/m49475423465/

I remember this because I had just bought mine a couple months beforehand and two listings popped up for cheaper - this one, and another listing that was for around $350, think that was on y!j

[Anonymous No.10454757]

>>10454300
It’s just funny how it called all of us heroes for signing it

[Anonymous No.10454763]

Someone listed a pony bag on LM for all the pony bag people.

[Anonymous No.10454765]

>>10454694
The person who starts the petitions is an annoying af lolita at heart that harasses people to sign. She also bothered the AP designers about it at Tekko Con

[Anonymous No.10454767]

>>10454341
AP DID ask tea party attendees which prints they'd like to see come back, which is how we got a (polyester) re-release of Fantasic Dolly

Honey Cake MTO happened because petition-anon got tons of people to sign a petition and raised enough of a hoopla both online and in-person to get AP to go "Ok, fine" - and Honey Cake must have made them a shit-load of money, because I swear almost every person in the western community now has one. Get enough signatures and raise enough interest and AP just might actually re-release stuff.

[Anonymous No.10454774]

>>10454765
You sound like you just spent $1000 on a dress and you don’t want your investment to be a waste.

[Anonymous No.10454775]

>>10454763
Well this should be interesting.

[Anonymous No.10454776]

>>10454763
Hopefully no one is scalping the one I sold sometime in 2019. Check the seller's history

[Anonymous No.10454777]

>>10454765
>harasses people to sign
I keep seeing claims that petition-anon "harassed" people to sign but have never seen any proof of harassment, warosu shows me no solid evidence other than hearsay - want to post some proof? Just weird there's not a single screencap of this supposed harassment in the archives

> She also bothered the AP designers about it at Tekko Con
Someone asked a question about it after AP themselves asked the crowd to request prints - how is that "bothering" them when they directly invited the question to be asked in the first place?
>They also went around and asked us what prints we'd like to see from AP. Lots of small dogs/animals, cats, and food. One girl brought up the Honey Cake petition, and Honoka said they do take into consideration the popularity/wants of fans (though didn't say it would be rereleased).

[Anonymous No.10454778]

>>10454775
Same girl who just sold the $1200 Sugary Carnival set.

[Anonymous No.10454779]

>>10454763
>>10454775

Good luck to everyone. I got this same colorway with tag about a month ago on mercari/fril for $200-$250. It seems to be showing up a lot lately. I really want to know how high it will go, but it also looked like there was an unmentioned stain on the ribbon? Easily fixable, but still.

It feels good for once to be a spectator and not have to stress out.

[Anonymous No.10454780]

>>10454767
>and AP just might actually re-release stuff.
Yeah, in trash bag polyester. If that's the way it's going to be, I would prefer it not get rereleased at all.

[Anonymous No.10454781]

>>10454778
>looks at bio of the current bidder
>"Hello! I'm an aspiring sweet lolita who happens to be kind of broke"
Good luck, o naive child.

[Anonymous No.10454783]

>>10454780
I agree, but that wasn't the point of this post >>10454341
>you vote in a form not in a petition.
yes AP has done forms to gauge interest in re-releases (Fantasic Dolly), but Honey Cake re-release happened specifically because of the large interest in the form of hundreds of signatures on the petition.

[Anonymous No.10454786]

>>10454780
then don't sign the petition and don't place an order for it if the re-release does come out
no one's holding a gun to your head forcing you to sign or buy anything

[Anonymous No.10454788]

>>10452992
>>10452993
Does anyone else feel like the hem/skirt area just seem..... unfinished? Like there's something missing?

[Anonymous No.10454792]

>>10454783
there's not any way to tell that the petition actually caused anything.

[Anonymous No.10454796]

>>10454792
Oh yes, because AP just happened to randomly re-release a heavily requested almost decade-old print for no reason - after being told about the 500+ signature petition in-person and it being sent to their email, after the AP designer confirms they do consider the popularity and wants of their customer base.

Don't be stupid.

[Anonymous No.10454803]

>>10454796
The petition complaining is just typical /cgl/ crab bucket mentality
>Don't try things ever, that's stupid
>They won't rerelease it because of a petition dummy
>People are signing it? Idiots
>They don't even like or care about the western comm
>They rereleased it? Probably unrelated
>Another petition? Don't be stupid, those don't work

[Anonymous No.10454806]

>>10454796
how do you know it also wasn't voted on in the same poll as fantasic dolly?

[Anonymous No.10454814]

>>10454806
Because voting for Fantasic Dolly (~6 June 2019) and the MTO that followed 2 months later in August happened after Honey Cake MTO was already announced and confirmed

Funny enough, Honey Cake was an option on the same ballot - but it was already confirmed AP was doing it beforehand (~3 June 2019)

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 2 and 2 together so not sure why you can't seem to understand the correlation that an extremely popular petition was one of, if not the main cause, for the Honey Cake MTO.

[Anonymous No.10454821]

>>10454814
>Funny enough, Honey Cake was an option on the same ballot - but it was already confirmed AP was doing it beforehand (~3 June 2019)
Why would they leave it on the ballot?

[Anonymous No.10454823]

>>10454821
Companies makes typos/errors like this all the time.

[Anonymous No.10454824]

>>10454823
Typos? Are you listening to yourself? The people bitching about the petition are bad but this is also stupid.

[Anonymous No.10454825]

>>10454814
>>10454821
NAYRT but the voting was from the "Angelic Pretty Textile Award" from the La Foret Angelic Pretty Museum back in November 2018, so that's why Honey Cake was on the ballot because it was before either print confirmed a remake.

However, it was "textile award" vote, not a "what print should we redo" ballot, so it has just as much of a possibility of being one of the causes of the Honey Cake MTO as much as the petition did. Email them and ask to confirm or deny if you want to know so badly?

[Anonymous No.10454826]

>>10454786
>no one's holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy anything
I wish everyone in this thread crying and shitting their bloomers over scalpers would take this to heart, lol.

[Anonymous No.10454827]

>>10454824
You’ve seriously never seen anything mistyped like in your push notifications or mass marketing emails?

[Anonymous No.10454830]

>>10454827
It also could have been cheaper to just keep it there than to print more with it off

[Anonymous No.10454832]

>>10454825
Thanks for actually explaining instead of being an idiot like >>10454827
>>10454830

[Anonymous No.10454837]

>>10454832
You could also look all of this up on your own instead of taking up the thread with being spoonfed, what >>10454830 >>10454827 are common things that happen all the time. Seems like you're the idiot here.

[Anonymous No.10454840]

>>10454837
Nta but calm down. You were wrong and sound dumb.

[Anonymous No.10454849]

>>10454837
Are you the anon crying about "spoon-feeding" over the necklace upthread? Fuck off already

[Anonymous No.10454851]

>>10454792
It didn’t. Just like how all the blm petitions aren’t going to do shit either.

[Anonymous No.10454862]

Pony bag bidding is over $200 now with 7 days left. What's everyone's guess? $500? I don't even know anymore.

[Anonymous No.10454864]

Shanghai Doll in lavender along with regular pink/sax/black is coming up for sale. Btw have you guys noticed that lacy butterflies have “AP” logo embroidered on them? Such a nice detail.

[Anonymous No.10454865]

>>10454864
I didn’t see a release date, does anybody know when it’s releasing?

[Anonymous No.10454868]

>>10454862
Maybe $299?

[Anonymous No.10454877]

>>10454864
This is so pretty! I love everything butterflies, praying I can get my hands on it since it’s certain to sell out quick.

[Anonymous No.10454884]

>>10454865
Saturday

[Anonymous No.10454885]

>>10454877
It’s a MTO

[Anonymous No.10454888]

>>10454669
>>10454674
what about original quality tho?
no need to be salty, if they actually go poly, original release will remain its price and status.

[Anonymous No.10454908]

>>10454884
That... is not the release date, anon, thats when they're accepting orders.

[Anonymous No.10454933]

>>10454777
Nayrt but she was also kicked from her comm and is pretty infamous for harassing people.

[Anonymous No.10454945]

>>10454908
Oh, it says February 2021

[Anonymous No.10455062]

This is really pretty, I had a bit of remorse for not getting CdE. Also that pearly ruff looks surprisingly well on actual person.

[Anonymous No.10455076]

>>10455062

If you see unedited photos in natural light you'll probably feel less remorseful.

It's not an ugly dress but there are far better releases from AP this year and generally with the same theme in the past. It's just sort of lackluster...

[Anonymous No.10455096]

>>10454840
>>10454849
I'm >>10454825 dipshit
when did everyone on this board get too lazy to look up something for themselves and then insult others when they're wrong. So annoying, it's like talking to (stupid) children that can't get off their ass and take 2 minutes to search through the archives

[Anonymous No.10455102]

>>10454888
special sets that are a different color are usually because of a special event like a store opening or store anniversary, or tea party reservation, lucky packs etc. - they don't really get re-releases and should be kept for special occasions

if they re-released the SC special set colorway for a special occasion, then that'd be fine I guess

[Anonymous No.10455112]

>>10455096
sorry you're too retarded to help others.

[Anonymous No.10455115]

>>10455102
you're confusing special sets with exclusives again.

[Anonymous No.10455120]

>>10455112
You say that in response to where I did exactly that? >>10454825
Dumbass, learn how to read and follow a conversation

[Anonymous No.10455122]

>>10454933
Again, proof? Because this is starting to sound like a vendetta. Let me guess, she also bought 50 dicks off eBay and sucked them all?

[Anonymous No.10455137]

>>10455122
She’s also the honey cake anon that bothered people in the dream dress threads. It’s not our fault you’re so new you weren’t here for her petition spamming. If you really knew how to use the archives you could find these things out

[Anonymous No.10455140]

>>10455102
If I'm not mistaken, CTP was a tea party exclusive MTO yet it got rereleased due to exceptional demand.

[Anonymous No.10455141]

>>10455137

There are like 5 HC anons at this point posting in the DD thread. Are you saying she is petition anon?

[Anonymous No.10455147]

>>10455141
You really need to work on your reading comprehension. Of course I’m saying she’s petition anon, that’s who’s being discussed. But petition anon is the special set honey cake anon who went around harassing people on Instagram and LM. She’s also recently posted to the draw thread so she can’t deny she posts here any more. She’s incredibly milky and I’m surprised she hasn’t been posted to the farm

[Anonymous No.10455157]

>>10455137
I was here and I did look through the archives. She spammed the petition everywhere, yeah - but people are claiming they were personally harassed to sign the petition and the archives turned up nothing. Making a post on a board to sign isn't harassment

>She’s also the honey cake anon that bothered people in the dream dress threads
Again - proof? Because again, people said that person was harassing them to sell their Honey Cake but no one ever actually posted a screenshot.
>Tue Jul 28 13:33:13 2020
>Oh did your rude messaging finally pay off?
At least my friend doesn’t have to fear you asking her again for this dress.
This post was deleted and got called out for being a vendetta carried over from a different thread

[Anonymous No.10455162]

>>10455157
Look up honeycake on LM. She bought it from rainies recently. Search for reserved listings too and you can find the special set she bought. This girl is infamous for being obnoxious and harassing people. It’s really just showing how new you are to keep defending her.

[Anonymous No.10455163]

>>10455147
How do you know they are the same person?

All I'm asking for is proof of personal harassment. Post on the lolita thread on the farms then if you don't want to post it here

[Anonymous No.10455164]

I'm the anon who's reposted the HC petition on /cgl/, I'm not the person who has actually started the petition.
Also, come on with "spamming" thing, it was like one post per thread. No salt deliveries until after 8:30 pm.

[Anonymous No.10455166]

>>10455163
Because her lm username is the same as her now deleted instagram and her face is the same on her instagram as the girl who did the petition

[Anonymous No.10455168]

>>10455162
The person that bought the reserved special set wasn't honeycake, though

[Anonymous No.10455361]

I wish that for one year AP would just do a different cotton rerelease of their iconic prints and jewelry each month and like, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.10455366]

>>10455120
Why are you pretending to be me?

[Anonymous No.10455369]

>>10455163
I'm not posting the conversation because she'd be able to know it's me posting it, dumbshit

[Anonymous No.10455371]

>>10455369
Ok so once again it's hearsay, got it

[Anonymous No.10455372]

Wtf is this hat. Why.

>>10455361
This would be the best year of my life.

[Anonymous No.10455374]

>>10455372
Looks like a pillbox hat, AP is going for 60s retro vibes

[Anonymous No.10455376]

>Nostalgic Lady Dress
What a creative name

[Anonymous No.10455408]

>>10455361
I was just thinking this yesterday. They really need to take a break.

[Anonymous No.10455416]

>>10455376
I hate this dress, but this is a beautiful color

[Anonymous No.10455424]

>>10455372
I really wish they would stop making bows like that, it looks so cheap and hideous.

[Anonymous No.10455453]

>>10454864
>>10455372
When I see stuff like this I get so irritated. It shows they ARE capable of putting more detail and work into dresses, they just don’t want to do it for the hyped print releases because they know we’ll buy it no matter what.

[Anonymous No.10455458]

This weekend they’re releasing this cute af apron! I’ve been wanting something like this for so long, it’s perfect

[Anonymous No.10455460]

>>10455458
you've been wanting a plain white apron for so long? this is boring af

[Anonymous No.10455461]

>>10455458

It's cute anon but it is literally a basic ass translucent half apron.

[Anonymous No.10455464]

>>10455062
don't be, i bought it in 2 colorways based on imai kira's picture and it was disappointing as hell.

[Anonymous No.10455465]

>>10455460
Yeah well along with blouses, aprons aren’t glamorous but they can really make a wardrobe more versatile for different coords. Besides, I want it in pink, not white

>>10455461
But it says angelic pretty on it and I’m an AP whore. Isn’t that what the AP thread is for? Wristcuffs are basic too but people still pay $50 for them because they stan. This is no different to me. I have 2 BtSSB aprons, I used to have a taobao apron and I have a homemade one, none of them had quite the right feel for my sweet AP coords but this one is just right

[Anonymous No.10455466]

>>10455465
i like it, i think the chiffon look will look good with a lot of printed main pieces.

[Anonymous No.10455468]

>>10455458
These are going to sell out because Japanese lolitas are obsessed with aprons

[Anonymous No.10455469]

>>10455458
This is what I’m most excited about. Too bad it will probably sell out quickly.

[Anonymous No.10455471]

>>10455465

It's cute and I like it too, but I'm certain AP has released approximately the same thing before as well as taobao shops with their own original see through half aprons. It's just weird to imply it was hard for you to find or get before now when it existed well before this release.

[Anonymous No.10455497]

>>10455471
I wanted an AP one, specifically, and I wanted a half apron in pastel colors that would still show a print and wasn’t bat themed. They don’t actually come up that often, it’s mostly those batty ones or taobao and I find the taobao ones are either shitty and cheap looking (I’ve owned a couple) or they’re too classic, or they’re too long and obscure the print. I also like that it says Angelic Pretty on it so I can wear it to an AP tea party. I just like angelic pretty, if you’re so keen on taobao go to the taobao thread, this is the AP thread

[Anonymous No.10455498]

>>10455471
They do not often release stand alone half aprons

[Anonymous No.10455499]

>>10455469
I thought I wanted it too, but then I realized I just wanted it to buy something... because it's the only relatively good thing. But it looks like it would snag easily, so no thanks.

[Anonymous No.10455501]

>>10455458
This white one would look nice with my pink honeycake

[Anonymous No.10455502]

>>10455501
that would be super cute. i am wondering if it will be too much with icp or not.

[Anonymous No.10455510]

>>10455502
I dont think so, I think it would be great and fit the theme

[Anonymous No.10455637]

>>10455453

Anything with print, a cut of the pricing goes towards paying the illustrator, and another cut goes towards paying the factory to print just a few thousand yards of the fabric (which is a very small run, commercially available fabric is made in way bigger batches, so the cost of setting up the machine to print/embroider/weave that design is spread out over several bolts of fabric instead of just one).

They've always had much better detailing on the solid/non-print dresses due to prints taking up extra costs, not because of lazyness.

[Anonymous No.10455638]

>>10455637
But the market has clearly indicated that we’d be willing to pay more for them to put in extra detailing. And they haven’t even increased the prices with inflation so they effectively lowered the price when no one asked them to do that. Why? Why won’t they just put the extra detailing in?

[Anonymous No.10455641]

>>10455497

I don't buy much taobao beyond small acessories and I prefer opaque aprons (mostly btssb desu though I don't wear aprons much) and I'm not bashing AP at all.

I just don't think this is special or anything despite it being really cute. Pretty much everything big enough to put AP on it from AP says the name so your point about it saying AP is also weird idk? Of course brand is going to have the name placed somewhere on it.

You're way too defensive over people pointing out how basic the item is. Nothing wrong with simple pieces but damn.

[Anonymous No.10455645]

>>10455641
You literally told me I should just get one from taobao so I’m saying no, I want one that says angelic pretty. That’s all. You keep acting like they release non-Halloween aprons all the time but they don’t. Why do you keep shitting on me for wanting an apron?? It’s really weird at this point. I just like this apron and I’m going to buy it so I posted it, get over it.

[Anonymous No.10455650]

>>10455458
This had so much potential. They could have made a slightly more detailed variant and I would have been all over it.

[Anonymous No.10455653]

>>10455645

I'm not shitting on you, your response to me pointing out it was an item that existed/was available before (from brand including AP and off brand) when you claimed you've been waiting forever for something like this was to basically call me a taobao-chan. I never said anything bad about the apron or you wanting it or specifically told you to buy taobao. Just said that it's not special and used other places that have produced them as an example. We're allowed to point out when AP makes something simple/not that special, that's all.

The AP thread doesn't have to be kissing AP's ass every post, we can have different perspectives on items without being all "gtfo go buy taobao if you have anything to say about AP that isn't praise". If you can't handle tiny AP criticism or just pointing out the obvious then maybe discuss releases somewhere that isn't cgl.

This is type of shit is probably at least half of why people wanted us to have a containment thread, geez.

[Anonymous No.10455654]

>>10455650

AP has really been skimping on detail a lot these days. Their idea of detail went from cute matching rickrack and tiny surprises in prints or creative cuts/design to just...adding ugly excess chiffon to the chest or shoulders and calling it a day a la Chateau de Ecume (sorry if misspelled, my French is trash)

[Anonymous No.10455657]

>>10455638
Seconding this. Ignoring the western market completely, the demand for older and more detailed dresses is up in Japan as well. There’s no way they’re unaware of that, they simply choose to ignore it.

[Anonymous No.10455665]

>>10455638

Just wait for their next tea party or something, they'll probably announce another one of the OTT dress MTOs like these, and you can have all the detailing along with the prices that you want so badly.

Their dresses don't do well when they start going over the 30k yen mark. You can spout your personal preferences all you want, but the market just isn't moving the way you're saying they should.

[Anonymous No.10455692]

>>10455665
Nayrt, but I'm pretty sure they meant 40k to 45k for more details. Those dresses are not even for the same audience.

[Anonymous No.10455698]

>>10455692

Yeah I'm nta either but I got the impression anon was mentioning details like trim and interesting cuts or better quality polyester where applicable. Small things that cost more but not as much as a full on Marie Antoinette style dress. 40K to 50K JPY per piece could more than make up for the inflation costs and adding some of those small aha moments where you go "wow, so cute!" over a dress. Look at the little things Tyler points out on Kumya's Sweet Ice Cream as well as her older AP dresses for reference in her last dress video. They're not enough to push a dress into the custom $1500 MTO dress range. If BTSSB can produce those types of details for the same price or slightly more expensive than AP, then AP being the bigger brand with more resources and all probably can too. Obviously the cost will go up some but most people probably don't mind given that the higher barrier to entry would likely reduce bloodbaths by a bit (remember the anon mentioning how about 20 orders per second or whatever were successfully being made during release based on counting order numbers?) and likely reduce scalping a little bit as well. Really increasing the price point and improving quality is the best way for AP to handle the excessive quantity of demand. Probably even a better method than increasing stock since poorfags or people who only kind of want things would just be priced out and be removed from the pool.

[Anonymous No.10455724]

>>10455692
>>10455698

What was the last dress they released in that price range that sold out, though? I can't recall anything other than Imai Kira prints being above that price range and still selling well.

[Anonymous No.10455728]

>>10455458
This stock photo is channeling Bodyline

[Anonymous No.10455734]

>>10455724
That's not a reflection of the price though. It's a reflection of the design.

[Anonymous No.10456095]

>>10455724
I’m >>10455638 and Ice Cream Parlor still would have sold out completely even if it was 7k yen more. With the design as-is it’s kinda made them a laughing stock in comparison to Baby’s ice cream print. Most of their dresses that don’t sell out are plain. There’s rarely a printed JSK on sale. If there is, it’s usually literally just one or two in the least popular colorway of a dress that is made in poor quality material with an overly simplistic design AND it’s at a high price point. And that’s usually only at the Paris store where it’s doubly over-priced and it’s still like only literally two printed jsks. In general everything is that is available one week after release is plain. I actually wish they would do simpler designs with the plain dresses and more elaborate designs of the printed dresses. I don’t want to shell out $300 for a plain dress, and actually the fewer details on a plain dress the better because in my wardrobe and in my opinion the purpose of a plain dress is so that I could use it versatility in my wardrobe. If it’s covered with butterfly lace or whatever it’s going to be a lot less versatile. On the other hand a printed dress is a lot more of a statement piece and that’s where I would prefer the details. They have their design concept completely backwards.
And if Baby can make more detailed printed prices on better fabrics, AP can

[Anonymous No.10456099]

>>10456095
Sane anon, I will acknowledge that OPs & special sets (not exclusives but actually special sets) tend to take longer to sell out. But for the OPs it’s because the sizing restricts the audience and people just tend to favor JSKs for versatility, and for the special sets it goes back to design. It’s usually an even simpler design and lately all the special sets have been super super high waisted which is just a design people are not as in love with anymore. Both of these trends have been going on for a while so it’s their own fault if they keep making so many OPs and designing high-waisted special sets and then they go on sale, that trend has been years in the making.

[Anonymous No.10456135]

>>10455734

The design is what we're talking about though? Anon wants them to make the designs "better" (we'll leave aside what "better" means as we don't even know what anon really mean).

For 30k+ yen we'd end up with this Princess Rococo stuff, which used a different fabric so it was more expensive. It didn't sell out either.

>>10456095
>>10456099

Sorry, this comment is a mess, anon. You're trying to say the printed jsks are too simple? But you like simple dresses? And the solids should be simpler than the prints? Why are we judging with AP Paris rather than the online shop that everyone else not in Paris would be looking at?

The high-waisted special sets are often quite small, if it's a cheaper special set, it's probably to cut cost.

[Anonymous No.10456141]

>>10456135
That's what I'm saying though. It didn't sell because it was ugly, not because it was priced too high.

[Anonymous No.10456142]

>>10456135
>The high-waisted special sets are often quite small, if it's a cheaper special set, it's probably to cut cost.
Same with when they did a lot of salopettes. Tbh I feel like a lot of anons are upset about how the fashion has shifted and are ignoring issues that have been going on forever.

[Anonymous No.10456149]

>>10456135
No I’m saying the printed dress designs are too simple and they could charge more for a nicer design.
The plain non-print designs are too complex and no one wants a $300 plain un-printed dress and they always go on sale. Sorry if my use of the term “plain dress” confused you, I was referring to the non-print dresses when I said that and didn’t make myself clear

[Anonymous No.10456152]

>>10456135
You seem like you’re being obtuse on purpose and you keep bringing up rococo dresses. We just our sweet prints that have nice lace and extra trim and cute stuff on them like they used to. It’s not that hard

[Anonymous No.10456161]

>>10456141

That's the problem, though. They don't know ahead of time which prints are going to be hits so they can't go all out with every single one. And even when they do know, it's hard for them to tell whether people will still buy it regardless, or if it'll be like Milky Planet where they redesign the hem and it's suddenly a flop.

I mean, we can see when they mess up, but for them they're going into the market with a dress they think is a winner and then nobody buys it. The problem isn't "AP should this or that", the problem is AP can't read our minds or foretell the future, and we don't seem to have enough communication to tell them "hey this print is a hit, make it more expensive, we'll buy it anyway".

>>10456149

It's just confusing because AP, in all their many decades of being in business, is particularly well-known for not being "simple". "Simple" plain dress would be IW's territory. AP has a brand image to maintain.

They'll figure out soon enough the $300 unprinted dresses are unprofitable and make something else pretty soon. I think they probably figure if Shanghai Doll was a hit they'll try to see if they can make any more hits out of similar dresses.

[Anonymous No.10456191]

>>10456152

I'm not the anon asking about rococo lolita. It just happens Princess Rococo is one of the prints I found where the price tag went that high. As for >>10455665, that's just AP's designs for the tea party exclusives. There's another series with more modern dresses on it but google image isn't coughing it up at the moment.

>>10456142

I think most of them sound new. I watched AP phase out low-waisted dresses, which I'm not happy about, but it was kind of coming with the way most of them were the last cuts to sell out.

Polyester dresses aren't new either. When Princess Cat didn't even sell out -- it was cotton, it has cats, and it's in jewel tones -- I thought something was wrong. So I'm also not really surprised that AP is now phasing out cotton dresses too.

Most of these girls just got into lolita too late, I guess. Just a handful of years earlier and they could have supported all the cotton dresses that weren't selling well.

[Anonymous No.10456192]

>>10456152
r u new?

[Anonymous No.10456232]

What do you think about Princess Merlot? Did anyone buy it?

[Anonymous No.10456243]

>>10456161
I’m a print girl, love prints, especially AP. Lately though I’ve actually been a lot happier with my non-print AP dresses because the construction and overall quality is so much better than my recent AP print purchases. I wonder how many others feel this way.

[Anonymous No.10456266]

>>10456243
Oh yeah I'm the same way, I hated the Fantasic dolly I got but Shanghai Doll was really beautiful.
Felt completely different, I'm not buying any more polyester trash from them again.

[Anonymous No.10456272]

>>10456095
>Most of their dresses that don’t sell out are plain. There’s rarely a printed JSK on sale. If there is, it’s usually literally just one or two in the least popular colorway of a dress that is made in poor quality material with an overly simplistic design
Fairy Snow Decoration went on sale pretty hard and it's one of AP's nicer materials with detailed flock print, sparkly holo lace on the hem, just waist cut, beautiful silver trims and crystal beads... Honestly this post makes you look like a larper or a newbie, anyway you don't really know what you're talking about. There will always be unpredictable flops of dresses that in theory should've sold better. Just look at Honey Cake, it went on sale originally too and only became iconic years later.

[Anonymous No.10456297]

>>10456272

Are season/holiday specific dresses ever that popular (Beyond like "halloweeny" spooky prints or Valentine's which is way more versatile as far as motifs go)? I don't think cgl at least have ever been hype over winter or Christmas prints and many of us thought fairy snow decoration was fine but hella simple as far as how the print looked in brand photos.

I think many people generally prefer cute border focused prints in particular as well even though many of the allover prints are also popular or cute

[Anonymous No.10456300]

>>10456272
If you read my other post I meant plain as in non-print. So you just proved my point. An overly detailed non-print dress went on sale but AP keeps pumping them out. Meanwhile we want more detail on the print dresses and they give us poly trash bags

[Anonymous No.10456302]

>>10456297

Predecessor to Fairy Snow is Jewelry Snow. In fact Fairy Snow fixes all the things cgl complains about (specialty fabric, not cheap poly, detailed, not high-waisted) but it still flopped.

cgl shat on ICP before its release, too, and for some reason it still sold out. Best takeaway is that cgl is too easy for larpers and newbies to shit their mouth without knowing what they're talking about.

nayrt, btw.

[Anonymous No.10456303]

>>10456161
This is all well and lovely until you consider the fact that BtSSB and even Meta manage to do printed dresses with more detail just fine.

[Anonymous No.10456306]

>>10456303

It's not like AP doesn't still do details or the other brands don't occasionally put out dresses that are simple, though?

At this point I can't even tell what you're complaining about anymore.

[Anonymous No.10456311]

>>10456302

Oh I may have gotten fairy snow decoration and jewelry snow confused!

[Anonymous No.10456355]

>>10456311
>>10456297
>>10456297


Anon, Jewelry Snow is the "specific holiday dress" that was so popular, it got sold out, got replicated, and had an MTO for it.

[Anonymous No.10456357]

>>10456355

Which one was the simpler one with just a bunch of big flocked snowflakes? I remember cgl not feeling one way or the other about it and I was more interested in Fancy Noel anyway so I didn't pay close attention.

[Anonymous No.10456384]

>>10456191
>When Princess Cat didn't even sell out -- it was cotton, it has cats, and it's in jewel tones -- I thought something was wrong.

Yeah but to be fair, they did a poor job on the OP and peplum JSK designs. The OP back bustle looked awkwardly wide at the waist and is a harder sell because of sizing. The peplum jsk had a weird lace piece running down one side of the bodice and a lackluster peplum that looked like a large sheet of fabric lace. The tiered JSK was the tried and true design and looked the best so everyone wanted that.

[Anonymous No.10456385]

>>10456357
Jewelry snow is the one with giant snowflakes that sold out and had a MTO.
Fairy snow decoration had a swan design and was vaguely winter themed. It didn't sell well, but the quality is comparable to Jewelry Snow.

[Anonymous No.10456391]

>>10456384
Agreed, that's the only cut I would buy for Princess Cat.

[Anonymous No.10456396]

Who’s ready for the Topping Heart socks bloodbath on AP USA today?

[Anonymous No.10456417]

>>10456396

They're cute but I'm not all that hype for them. I know lots of other anons will be excited to get their hands on them though!

[Anonymous No.10456423]

>>10456396
I've got everything all ready, hopefully I get some stupid heart socks

[Anonymous No.10456424]

>>10456384
I like Princess Cat OP for actual princess sleeves and high waisted cut. Haven't yet made my mind about getting one tho, I keep considering it, but there's always some more priority things.

[Anonymous No.10456428]

>>10456396
Motherfucker! I didn’t get the fucking socks but at least I got a necklace lol

[Anonymous No.10456429]

>>10456396
Got my second pair of the pink x sax. Feels good.

I got faked out because AP opened the "Add to Cart" button before noon this time. Then I got logged out and had to click through pages again. Still got it though.

[Anonymous No.10456430]

>>10456396
I had the pink ring and the pink socks in my cart, about to hit the checkout button, and then...decided I didn't really want them that much and x'd out the browser

[Anonymous No.10456432]

>>10456396
Very happy, I got one of every sock except for the black x red and the lavender jewelry. I don't have near as many socks as I should because I feel kinda gross about buying used ones, I'm glad this release had such cute socks.

[Anonymous No.10456434]

>>10456429
why 2 pairs? one for backup when the first pair falls apart?

[Anonymous No.10456435]

>>10456432
AP releases are turning into just accessory grabs for me. Socks, wristcuffs, jewelry. I'm not buying main pieces direct anymore, but it at least seems like there's always some good accessory to be had.

[Anonymous No.10456439]

>>10456434
Yea, basically. Between an SS, Paris, and the USA release, I managed to get 2 pairs of each pastel colorway sock. It feels good to be able to wear a pair without being afraid they'll get destroyed. There's some socks I can't bring myself to wear just because they are so old and rare, so now, if I can, I get doubles of versatile things.Socks seem to be the most "perishable" thing.

[Anonymous No.10456441]

>>10456435
I feel this way even with the secondhand market. I snap up cute socks that show up on mercari and that's pretty much it. I liked the Topping Heart blouse but having cowtits is suffering, there's only one or two releases yearly that fit me.

[Anonymous No.10456447]

>>10456435
Same, the last AP release that I liked was Toy Doll Box so most of my other items I just get second hand, but I'm glad to finally see some accessories that I like and will fit in my wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.10456487]

Okay, it's more than two months since original release, and I'm warming up towards Usagiyorokobu hananoen. I've used to think it's just another boring nearly-solid, but actually it has A LOT of texture and looks really luxurious. Stock pictures just don't do it justice.

[Anonymous No.10456493]

>>10456487
Really nice release. I lowkey wish I'd have skipped on some other purchases to release funds for this.

[Anonymous No.10456500]

>>10456493
It looks so cute with the Shanghai Doll blouse, but I have the OP so I won’t be able to try it. I’m so upset about the lavender being store limited, I really wanted it but maybe if I’m lucky it’ll pop up secondhand for less than 100k yen someday

[Anonymous No.10456515]

>>10456500
>if I’m lucky it’ll pop up secondhand for less than 100k yen someday
yeah, basically

[Anonymous No.10456533]

>>10456487
>>10456493
They seemingly used the same embroidered butterflies as in >>10454864 so SD canotier may make a cool matching accessory. The benefits of keeping the wardrobe in one color, heh.

[Anonymous No.10456552]

>>10456430
goddamnit why did I do this? I could have used those socks in so many coordinates.

Note to self: when in doubt, just fucking buy it, because you can sell it for what you paid really easily if you change your mind

[Anonymous No.10456559]

>>10456552
Idk man, you’re losing money in shipping and taxes

[Anonymous No.10456574]

>>10456559
considering the crazy prices of secondhand AP I probably could have made MORE money buying it and then reselling it on LM

[Anonymous No.10456580]

>>10456533
The butterfly is because the model is wearing the SD blouse, dummy. Keep up

[Anonymous No.10456615]

>>10456580
The only retard here is you, this dress really does have the same butterflies. The girl here just took off the brooches.

[Anonymous No.10456618]

>>10456580

[Anonymous No.10456622]

>>10456580
>>10456618
Absolutely hilarious LOL keep up

[Anonymous No.10456626]

>>10456396
Got the lavender and sax jewelry!

I did checkout with a pair of socks, but I later got an email letting me know they over sold... So no socks I'm afraid. :(

[Anonymous No.10456637]

>>10456626
Oh no, I’m sorry anon. What color were you hoping for?

[Anonymous No.10456640]

>>10456637
White x sax. I only went for one pair in hopes of getting it for sure, but I also quite liked white x red.

[Anonymous No.10456642]

>>10456424
I have it. It gets sold pretty cheap, and is super flattering. You just need a petti big enough to make the bustle spread out. The shoulders are roomy as well, and the sleeves are prettier up close.

[Anonymous No.10456652]

>>10456500
She’s wearing the SD op

[Anonymous No.10456656]

>>10456652
Are you being ironic? Or are you really this retarded?

[Anonymous No.10456661]

>>10456656
nyart, but she really is wearing the op underneath. she started doing that before the blouses were even released.

[Anonymous No.10456666]

>>10456656
No she said it herself on weibo, she’s also super skinny and short so it’s doable for her.

[Anonymous No.10456669]

>>10456666
And the sleeves are different

[Anonymous No.10456697]

>>10456669
>the sleeves are different
anon i...

[Anonymous No.10456701]

>>10456424
Princess cat doesn't have princess sleeves? It has the cut sleeve trend.

[Anonymous No.10456724]

The apron sold out in less an a minute.

[Anonymous No.10456727]

>>10456697
please don't say you really can't tell the difference

[Anonymous No.10456729]

>>10456724
Competition was fierce. First bloodbath I’ve been unsuccessful in ever. Hopefully everyone unloads them on fril in a few weeks when the hype wears off.

[Anonymous No.10456753]

>>10456729
I missed it too, hoping for a rerelease.

[Anonymous No.10456757]

New: >>10456755

[Anonymous No.10456762]

>>10456724
This is every AP accessory recently. I'm not surprised, especially since everything else on sale was pretty bad and that diverts a lot more people into trying for the apron.

[Anonymous No.10456986]

>>10456297
Ayrt I think it's a hit or miss, Fancy Noel wasn't that popular either and it's very cute too as well as a border print.

>>10456300
God just say solids already you newbie. Also since when does flock print not count as a print? Fairy Snow Decoration uses the same printing method as Holy Lantern, but in white.

>>10456302
This.