Secondhand Market Chaos

[Anonymous No.10483363]

AP plush bags are the new ruling class.

Discuss:
>plush bags
>buyer/seller pet peeves
>is the sweet market recovering?
>good/bad buying experiences

Remember to block out any names on screenshots

[Anonymous No.10483369]

>>10483363
I'm just laughing at how you guys keep feeling the need to make these shitty threads, the absolute state of poorfags.

[Anonymous No.10483371]

One thing I appreciate about LM is that you can scroll through the photos without opening the page.

[Anonymous No.10483372]

>>10483363
You're obsessed

>>10483371
Looks pretty bad but should be good after a steaming

[Anonymous No.10483374]

>>10483369
I'm doing this for fun because I enjoy watching the secondhand market. I missed the old threads because there was some truly ridiculous stuff, like that seller who used a sock lot photo as clickbait to try and sell a black Dreamy Baby Room bow.

[Anonymous No.10483380]

Back in like, 2014? 2015? I sold a JSK through auction and had a girl do the buy it now price (which I had made high). She then messaged me an offer which was lower than the auction had been at, and when I said no, left me a shit review on LM. I had to get mod staff involved and they struck the review altogether.

Then she turned around and bought something else. Offered an apology at least, because she “didn’t understand how auctions and BIN worked.” I really did NOT want to sell, but... she ended up paying in full.

I still think about it and get mad.

[Anonymous No.10483387]

secondhand commentary threads include more than yelling about prices and if you cant see past that youre likely baiting

>pic related

[Anonymous No.10483391]

>>10483387
mold???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.10483415]

>>10483391
its only some molds, anon, its fine trust me trust me trust me :)

[Anonymous No.10483421]

>>10483371
Why does the one on the right look better to me (besides being wrinkly)? Am I crazy?

[Anonymous No.10483423]

>>10483371
I wonder if they bought that cheap one that was on yahoo auctions a while back

[Anonymous No.10483427]

>>10483415
It's just a little mold, other than that it's NWOT! (;

[Anonymous No.10483444]

>>10483387
See, you say that but 90% of the last few threads we’ve had on this topic are people crying about prices being too high and singling people out for winning auctions.

[Anonymous No.10483497]

>>10483423
when i see yahoo auctions mentioned i immediatelly smell mold.

[Anonymous No.10483508]

>>10483387
What, does she live at sea?
Does she literally store her clothes on board?

[Anonymous No.10483534]

>>10483497
Every item I’ve gotten off there smells musty. Wtf is going on, is their warehouse a basement? Is it because I have them hold packages to combine?

[Anonymous No.10483537]

>>10483363
thinking about how I sold my pony bag for 60 bucks last year

[Anonymous No.10483538]

>>10483537
Don’t feel bad, I sold some AP jewelry for cheap last year too

[Anonymous No.10483539]

>>10483537
I bought that Magical Balloon necklace last year from a girl at a swap meet for $10 and I think about it every day.

[Anonymous No.10483551]

>>10483363
I love Chick-Chan and I really want the bag, but I don't think I could ever justify $400 on a plush bag. I just think of the production costs for something like this and the fact it is a literal soft toy plush with a strap stuck to it and I can't do it.

I don't necessarily consider $400 to be a lot to spend, but it's literally a plush!?! A $400 soft toy??? Damn I really kick myself now for not buying him any time I saw him sell for so much less.

[Anonymous No.10483554]

>>10483534
Yahoo Auctions is made up of thousands of individual sellers, anon.

[Anonymous No.10483555]

>>10483551
Yeah agreed. I’ll drop $400 on a dress without thinking about it but spending that on a plush is retarded.

[Anonymous No.10483556]

>>10483534
it's probably mothballs. most japanese clothes are stored with mothballs.

[Anonymous No.10483559]

>>10483551
I bought mine for ~$120 maybe a year ago. At that time I thought that was insane, but now I don't regret it. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. But that's coming from someone who has only a few dresses left on their wishlist, and has increasingly more money to spend on everything else. Currently, I think $250-$300 for any popular AP plush bag is actually a good deal.

[Anonymous No.10483564]

>>10483537
I sold the most sought after cut and colorway of milky planet like a year or two ago. I have mucho regret because I could have probably got double what I sold it for in todays market.

[Anonymous No.10483569]

>>10483556
absolutely gross and i have to wash yahoo auctionsitems multiple times... still can not get rid of the smell competely! might be mothballs mixed with mold... because i clearly smell mold eww

[Anonymous No.10483578]

>>10483538
>>10483539
>>10483564
Glad I'm not alone in this.
When I bought the pony bag it was around 2011 and it was 8000jpy. I remember the person running the SS told me that I was overpaying, and they usually went for about 6000jpy.
If I could just go back to that time knowing what I know now...

[Anonymous No.10483595]

>>10483578
I skipped out on so much jewelry because I didn't want to pay $30 for a ring or $50 for a necklace...I was so so stupid sayaka dot jiff

[Anonymous No.10483610]

>>10483595
Same. I finally got one of my dream necklaces, but I initially passed up an auction two or three years ago that was only $50 because I thought it was too expensive. And to be fair, $50 was expensive at the time. I bought it for $300 this year. I just threw money at it to end the cycle of disappointment because I was sick of seeing prices go up.

[Anonymous No.10485352]

>>10483595
>>10483610
Many of my lolita acquaintances used to tease me that I would spend $30-50 on AP necklaces and $15-35 on AP rings. I got a lot of the popular pastel sweet jewelry for really cheap or straight from AP for the retail price over the years. Now all of a sudden, they are all after the same jewelry I have and have to pay 3x+ more.

[Anonymous No.10485477]

Tired of these crusty ass buyers.
Messages read from the bottom up.

[Anonymous No.10485483]

>>10485477
why dont they pay the extra $10 then resell the one they don't want......

[Anonymous No.10485486]

>>10485477
They're an idiot, but you are also a cunt

[Anonymous No.10485487]

>>10485486
She was perfectly polite. You sound like the type that expects everyone to coddle you 24/7.

[Anonymous No.10485503]

>>10485486
Lmao are you the shitty buyer?

[Anonymous No.10485511]

Lately I'm seeing a ton of Strawberry Doll items in LM. I thought that was a fairly popular print, what is happening?

[Anonymous No.10485518]

>>10483363
Does every lolita on LM never wear like 99% of what they buy? I always see people listing dresses as never worn by them, only worn for a tryon, only worn once indoors, etc. all the time and I feel like it's a lie most of the time depending on how long they owned it before selling? If they mention it not fitting them I kinda believe it but otherwise it seems like people trying to pass their items off as less worn

[Anonymous No.10485519]

>>10485511
Check the usernames, it’s Chinese sellers. Probably bought lots of stock during the MTO and hoped the value would go up.

[Anonymous No.10485524]

>>10485518
A lot of people on Lacemarket have huge wardrobes but aren’t necessarily daily lolitas. There’s a large chance of the dress sitting around for a while before they decide they’re just never gonna wear it and sell it.

[Anonymous No.10485531]

>>10485518
I just assume that they lie most of the time, but if they can pass it off as only being worn once then I don’t mind.

[Anonymous No.10485532]

>>10485518
I personally only try stuff on, then sell immediately or wait a bit (if it's a new release that hasn't been released world-wide yet or it's not around a holiday that'll make it easier to sell specific prints).The reasoning for me could be it either doesn't fit, or it doesn't look as good on me as I thought it would. So I find it totally believable that plenty of other people do that too.

[Anonymous No.10485533]

>>10485518
My rule of thumb is that if I buy something new and wear it less than twice withing 12 months, it's not worth keeping it. So, yes I do sell a lot of items as NWOT or mint condition.

[Anonymous No.10485538]

>>10485518
Idk about other people but I have definite hoarding tendencies and only actually wear like 30% of my wardrobe

[Anonymous No.10485545]

>>10485518

I mean, you're looking at confirmation bias though -- lacemarket is going to be all the dresses that girls decided to sell instead of keep. So if you bought a dress a year ago, even if it fits but you never wear it, personally that's gonna be a dress I'd sell at my next closet cleaning.

Could be a lot of reasons on why they didn't manage to wear it, ranging from it arrived too late for an event, didn't like it as much as they thought, couldn't find an event for it, to just plain ""wore another dress that I like more instead of this one".

[Anonymous No.10485578]

>>10485518
Me personally I have like 40+ main pieces but due to my job I can only wear lolita during (some) weekends. In some cases the "worn once" may be BS but in general I believe many people have the same situation as me

[Anonymous No.10485590]

>>10485518
my wardrobe is fucking huge but i wear most of it. i buy tons of things i don't really need so when something gets worn out and can't be worn anymore i still have a replacement. i have a few things in different cuts or colorways because of that, too. it's almost relieving in a way, it makes me more comfortable with wearing things daily.

[Anonymous No.10485592]

>>10485518
The vast majority of what I sell is worn once or tried on because I keep things that I wear and sell things that I don't wear. I don't think there's much more to it than that.

[Anonymous No.10485614]

>>10485518
i am a collector and i work full time so i do not have a lot of time to wear my dresses. also, i do not like attention from people in public so i mostly take photos for instagram or fb and do not go outside wearing lolita unless it is a meetup with my comm

[Anonymous No.10485617]

>>10485518
I don't think all of them are lying - as far as the time part goes, I've bought stuff from LM that I've held on to for a long time and have never worn once so I'm planning on selling them as such - but some definitely are. I've seen girls on Instagram wearing dresses they try to list on LM as never been worn.

[Anonymous No.10485624]

>>10485518
It's called hoarding.

[Anonymous No.10485631]

>>10485503
If I couldn't afford an extra $10 I'd be buying some rope, not off brand berets

[Anonymous No.10485650]

>>10485518
It’s usually because I didn’t like the item as much after trying it on, or it didn’t mesh as well with my wardrobe as I thought it would. Simple as that.

[Anonymous No.10485652]

>>10485518
>>10485650
I’ve bought things in ‘like new’ condition that obviously weren’t though, and had to file a PayPal claim, so not all are telling the truth. I check feedback very closely now.

[Anonymous No.10485679]

>>10483363
jfc 400 bucks for a plushie LOL you sweets are crazy

[Anonymous No.10485680]

>>10483387
>>10483391
>>10483415
this has me dying anons, omg

[Anonymous No.10485681]

>>10485614
oh so you're actually a mentally ill hoarder then. "collecting" lolita pieces won't fill up that hole inside you, anon.

[Anonymous No.10485685]

>>10485631
underrated comment, anon-chan.

[Rarted No.10485694]

>>10485685
Fart in my pussy please, ma'am I beg of you

[Anonymous No.10485966]

How stupid do you have to be to post something like this? Haggling is never okay, unless the seller explicitly says they are open to offers.

Just because something is being sold seconhand doesn't turn it into a flea market.

[Anonymous No.10485996]

>>10485681
Nice pathologizing there

[Anonymous No.10485998]

>>10485966
In a lot of cultures (pretty much all of them except the Anglo and Germanic ones) haggling is standard in any market and just part of the shopping experience, so maybe that’s where she’s coming from.

[Anonymous No.10486002]

>>10485998
lmao no

[Anonymous No.10486003]

>>10485518
I think it's often a lie, but like other people, if I'm selling something on LM it's usually because I immediately knew it didn't suit me or I didn't find myself reaching for it like I thought I would. Also personally I feel awkward selling things that aren't in like-new condition, so sometimes I hold onto well-worn things that I don't necessarily wear anymore just because I feel strange about selling them.

[Anonymous No.10486004]

>>10486003
You should just sell them. People buy wrecked shit all the time if the price is right.

[Anonymous No.10486012]

>>10485966

I think that low balling is the actual problem.

I think if there is a listing that hasn't moved for a long time, and the item isn't a highly sought after grail item, that sending a polite offer to the seller is okay.

Though, I would never suggest asking for more than a 10% discount on an item.

[Anonymous No.10486018]

>>10485681
Legit question: what's wrong with collecting/hoarding lolita clothes? What makes it worse than collecting, for example, MLP or Barbies or whatever toy series when being adult and you don't play with them? Or collecting rare mugs or plates and exhibit them in a cabinet in your living-room -and not actually eating from them-?
Lolita is a hobby and yes, clothes are made to be used by default, but also whatever-collection-item is made for a purpose that is not *just* collecting it. I hope I'm making some sense

[Anonymous No.10486021]

>>10483391
I'm pretty sure this is just a translation fail. In Chinese this just means general black marking from like pen and stuff

[Anonymous No.10486022]

>>10485511
scalper over-speculation on a print that's not THAT popular. The same thing will happen with the piced strawberry MTO. No one ever expected it to be a global MTO and what do ya know even AP USA is doing it.

[Anonymous No.10486024]

>>10485518
1. People take that insta pic then sell.
2. People lie. One more time for the people in the back but just because you still have the tags to reattach doesn't make it new with tags

[Anonymous No.10486025]

>>10485681
Also a collector. I display them but rarely wear them. I really appreciate the construction and attention to detail of old AP. sue me.

[Anonymous No.10486026]

>>10485966
I don't look down on "haggling", but I do look down on people who are delusional about how much they want to pay. I had a girl offer me an insanely low price on a VERY trendy lucky pack just because she said it was a lucky pack and she would spend "at most" $180 on it. It sold for almost twice that in like 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.10486027]

>>10486018
nayrt but I think people are just salty because they want to wear those pieces but don't put their money where their mouth is

[Anonymous No.10486029]

>>10486026
Yeah it’s how they ask too.

[Anonymous No.10486030]

>>10486029
Right? It’s never at all reasonable. Literally I’ve had 4 people in the last six months ask “how low could you possibly go?” On some top tier items that I priced very reasonably. Lazy ineffective and rude negotiating

[Anonymous No.10486031]

>>10486029
Case in point. This isn’t how you haggle.

[Anonymous No.10486034]

>>10485681
>>10486018 is just mad at the thought that her dream dress is locked away in someone's closet and she has no hope of obtaining it, though I guarantee she'd be just as mad if someone were wearing it if they had no intention of ever selling it kek, it's just classic, autistic lolita entitlement.

[Anonymous No.10486069]

>What are the chances people buy this to sell dresses NWT but they really aren't?
>Probably none. $22.

Something has to literally be done about whatever the fuck is happening on LM right now. I will be damned if anyones paying 700+ on a NWT grail and it's got the wrong tag with severe staining.

[Anonymous No.10486071]

>>10486069
This seller also lists shit NWT when she’s clearly worn them on her IG.

[Anonymous No.10486072]

>>10486034
This

[Anonymous No.10486079]

>>10486069
Well I mean. You can always just read the tag...

There’s nothing wrong with selling a lot of tags. Lots of people collect them and shit sellers aren’t suddenly going to be honest if they can’t buy the tag

[Anonymous No.10486080]

>>10486071
This annoys me so much. If you’re going to lie, at least don’t post blatantly post the evidence.

[Anonymous No.10486087]

>>10486030
I've gotten this this one too I hate it. ): If you're going to come at me with a um... "negotiation", at least have a number in mind

[Anonymous No.10486088]

>>10486079
NTA but she's right.
Innocently enough, collectors want them. But the state of scalping on LM right now is a reasonable reason to suspect this kind of lemon selling is going on.
Especially with all the rereleases and 2009 prints being the most wanted currently. If some replica seller got their hands on them, it's cancerous.

[Anonymous No.10486094]

>>10486088
>If some replica seller got their hands on them, it's cancerous.
Not really. First of all the sale of tags is actually most common in China and it’s not like they wouldn’t just photocopy them anyways. And it’s the internal tags on the dress that would need the most work. Slapping a genuine AP hangtag on a replica won’t make it pass as legit.

There’s already Chinese replicas of misty sky, MT, and dream marine that are nearly indistinguishable and I’ve suspected for awhile that more than a few have been moved on lacemarket. It’s why I don’t fuck with those Uber priced poly dresses; they’re too easy to replicate. Old cotton dresses with heat stamped glitter embossing on the other hand? Those are basically impossible to create a cost effective and convincing replica of.

[Anonymous No.10486095]

>>10486094
Point being: selling tags is meaningless since the most popular dresses already have insanely good replicas, and the replica makers just print copies of the tags they got when they cloned the dress.

[Anonymous No.10486099]

>>10486094
>>10486095
what the fuck are you even talking about

[Anonymous No.10486102]

>>10486094
Nayrt but I got a knock off dream marine on fril that was almost perfect. The only way I figured it out was twinning when I realized that the little buttons holding the waist ties on weren’t beveled correctly. Then I measured the print and noticed the scale was very slightly enlarged. It had all the right tags and I thought it was legit for months. The fabric color and texture was exactly the same. Even if it’s not intentional, I think there has to be people shilling replicas on lm. Make sure to check all those little details!

[Anonymous No.10486103]

>>10486087
Yes ugh. And where’s the logic in that? What seller is going to say “oh well since you asked, I’ll give you a 200% discount, in fact it’s free!!!”
Even then they’d complain about paying for shipping. cheap bitches

[Anonymous No.10486105]

>>10486088
Putting tags on a replica will just leave you with a shitty replica with a genuine tag, no one would fall for that.
Worst case scenario some shitty scalper snags a deal on a good condition dress and slaps the tags on it to pretend it’s nwt

[Anonymous No.10486119]

>>10486094
Just because you know a replica at first sight doesn't mean others do. this obviously doesn't pertain to you so don't take it so personally.
This is preventing future lemon sales, drama, and replicas reflooding the market because "lol just check the tags" is not something most of these impaintent buyers are going to do. They'll slap 1k on a dress and not communicate at all with a seller.

I've had that problem where they don't read my listing or look at the photos and just buy it then leave a bad review about any mods that were listen they didn't bother to read.

It's preventing a problem, even if you yourself know how to avoid it.

[Anonymous No.10486129]

>>10486119
It's not preventing any problem you dumb shit. scammers don't need tags to scam and if that's they're game they'll just use fake tags too.

Once again, it's totally fine to sell your tag collection on LM.

[Anonymous No.10486157]

I throw my tags away because they’re useless to me and I don’t scrapbook. What do you do with your AP and other brand bags? The big ones are good for carrying packages to the post office. But I don’t know what to do with the little ones. They’re too thick to pick up after my dog so I might just have to recycle them.

[Anonymous No.10486158]

>>10486157
I like to use them when packaging things that I sell on LM (the smaller ones are nice for accessories, socks etc). I've gotten a few brand bags that way too and I always appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.10486160]

>>10486157
Seconding what >>10486158 said or, if they're cute enough, you could cut them up and use them for scrapbooking or decoration.

[Anonymous No.10486166]

>>10486157
i use my big bags to hold my pettis

[Anonymous No.10486197]

>>10486157
Honestly I’ll ship dresses in the big brand plastic bags. Wrap the dress in a nice bag inside the main bag and it ships for a lower cost than a box. And honestly, that’s how Tenso would forward my AP so it’s fine in my book to do the same if a buyer approves of shipping in a bag.

[Anonymous No.10486213]

>>10486197
Don't ship items in only bags if you're in the US. Packages get manhandled there and the buyers will be pissy

[Anonymous No.10486217]

>>10486213

The bags are so thick there is little chance of a problem. Brand bags are thicker than mailer bags designed for packages here in the US.

[Anonymous No.10486232]

>>10486217
True, I regularly ship my merch in poly mailers and AP bags are stronger and thicker.

[Anonymous No.10486266]

>>10486197
>mfw my last dress was shipped like this
>mfw USPS delivered my dress in a clear bag with a We're Sorry sticker on the front saying the packaging got destroyed oh darn
>mfw dress looked like it went through gears of a machine with grease stains and some holes/chewed fabric
>mfw a sad scrap of the AP bag was all that was left among my shredded dress
>mfw seller didn't insure the package as I asked and then ghosted me when I sent them proof of what happened
>mfw seller was also in the US, only 1 state away
>mfw paypal sided in my favor and I got a full refund but my soul still aches for this poor JSK
Use. A. Fucking. Box.

[Anonymous No.10486272]

>>10486217
So you're literally retarded. Got it.

[Anonymous No.10486274]

>>10486217
the fucking buyer will pay the shipping, just ship in a box. ffs. usps flat rate boxes are free.

[Anonymous No.10486276]

>>10486197
>>10486217
Don't. Just ship it in a box. It's not that complicated.

[Anonymous No.10486279]

>>10486266
Was it shipped Priority? How much did you pay for shipping?

[Anonymous No.10486309]

>>10486217
I recently got something in an AP bag and nearly had a heart attack when it arrived torn. By some miracle the contents were safe but this could have been avoided if they used a proper mailing envelope.

[Anonymous No.10486316]

You guys need to chill out about shipping in a bag. If the buyer and I discussed shipping in a bag vs a box to lower costs, then that’s the way I’m shipping it. I’m not in the US, so obviously if there was a flat rate method I would do that and save everyone the trouble of shipping quotes.

[Anonymous No.10486321]

>>10486316

Usually the discussion does not transpire hence why there is discussion about it. Unless y'all are both in agreement, just fucking ship it in a box.

[Anonymous No.10486331]

>>10486321

I have had shit shipped in thin ass mailers internationally and get here just fine. Unless you have angry vindictive postal workers I fail to see how people are having such manhandled destroyed packages when it's fabric? The only time I have had a problem was once with DHL when it was originally shipped in a box from Japan with Remambo and DHL called me confirming my package was mine and the contents because the packaging cane open or was destroyed. So the ONLY TIME I have bad issues was when a box WAS used.

Maybe I just have more luck than others but I buy a LOT of lolita online and sell too and send in plastic USPS mailers and they turn out just fine despite being thinner and easier to tear than a brand shopping bag. I typically layer a brand bag with a mailer bag if I ever sell and don't have boxes around the house, but like...where do you other burgers live that the USPS is dropkicking your fucking packages into oblivion on the reg?

[Anonymous No.10486334]

>>10486321
Most of the time it’s either ship it in a bag for cheaper shipping or ship it in a box and pay higher EMS rates. Bag shipping allows me to ship via “small packet”, but average box size pushes it into EMS size territory which is just not worth it for cheaper items like cutsews, blouses, or skirts.

Anyway, I don’t understand why you are so salted about this, if the buyer has been fully informed and agrees on bag shipment and knows the prices for both bag and box shipment. Sorry for your bad luck. It’s not like I’m shipping in thin plastic garbage bags.

[Anonymous No.10486347]

>mfw I ship all my items in a bag which I put in a box in case the box gets wet

I got many items inside bags no problem, but when I ship overseas I always use a box for my peace of mind.

[Anonymous No.10486353]

>>10486331
The ghetto

[Anonymous No.10486365]

>>10486331
Are you talking about the tyvek mailers from USPS? Those are made of a really special material even though it feels thin. As opposed to flimsy plastic tyvek has fiber embedded in it

[Anonymous No.10486368]

>>10486274
I hate when sellers do this. Just ask the buyer, it's not that hard. I don't want to pay flat rate for something that weighs 3 ounces.

[Anonymous No.10486379]

>>10486217
Poly mailers are thinner but tear resistant. Don't use a shopping bag to mail things.

[Anonymous No.10486380]

>>10486368
Same, it's so lazy to charge $15 when you can do nearly half that. I've not bought things for this reason.

[Anonymous No.10486381]

>>10486266
Don't ever pay for insurance anyway. The insurance is to protect the seller, not the buyer, as you saw when you successfully won your PayPal claim.
Any seller that wants you to pay insurance is either scamming or ignorant

[Anonymous No.10486382]

>>10486380
>>10486368
>bitching about a difference of $3-7 which also includes insurance
how poor are you

[Anonymous No.10486384]

>>10486381
no, idiot the insurance is so the seller gets their money and can refund the buyer. anon asked the seller to insure the package not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.10486388]

>>10486384
This, if the seller had pics of the package before she shipped it out it's highly likely paypal would have sided with her instead, but given that the seller didn't even insure the package after being asked I doubt she was smart enough to do that lmao

[Anonymous No.10486390]

I internally question anyone who is charging $20 or more to ship light items within the USA. A large priority flat rate box costs $21.10 but everything except coats or some older layered or velveteen items. I assume theyre also adding insurance (and ask them about this) or theyre charging me for their paypal fee without saying it plainly.

[Anonymous No.10486413]

>>10486381
What the fuck? Are you new? You should always pay for insurance if it is an expensive item. It is a buyer cost and if there was damage during shipping, you do not get a refund if you don't pay for insurance.

If you are worried about getting scammed, ask the buyer for a detailed receipt.

[Anonymous No.10486428]

>>10486413
ummm. no. I think you're obviously the newb here

I run an eBay store outside of lolita that sells over 3000 items a year. As the seller, if the buyer files a claim and I don't have insurance, they get their money back. The only exception to this is f they claim non-receipt and I have a tracking number that says it arrived. If the package goes missing from your porch, insurance won't cover it anyways.

As the seller your responsibility is to get the package to their door step in one piece. Anything that happens between you taking it to the post, and their porch is YOUR responsibility. As the buyer, your resonsibility is to provide a safe place for the package to arrive, hence why stolen packages do not get insurance payouts. I cringe so hard whenever I see sellers on LM say " not responsible for lost/damaged packages" because according to PayPal's terms of service you absolutely are.

[Anonymous No.10486429]

>>10486413
yeah no. if you pay through PayPal you claim with the seller, then they claim with USPS. PayPal is notoriously pro-buyer.

[Anonymous No.10486432]

>>10486428
this isn't how that works. i work for a company that sells over 3000 products a day.

[Anonymous No.10486433]

>>10486432
how does it work then

[Anonymous No.10486440]

>>10486432
Cashier?

[Anonymous No.10486441]

>>10486433
for one, not every shipping company works the same as far as insurance goes. you're not even smart enough to understand that much.

[Anonymous No.10486443]

>>10486441
Are you a larper or just retarded?

[Anonymous No.10486451]

>>10486440
customer service manager.

>>10486443
are you? usps doesn't pay out on stolen packages but fedex definitely does. and much of the time usps will pay out on international shipments. some companies let the buyer or seller file the claim, some require the seller to do so. it's not hard. we aren't talking just about one shipping company in one country.

[Anonymous No.10486454]

>>10486451
also insurance is something the seller can tack on in the product price since it's so cheap.

[Anonymous No.10486456]

>>10486432
Your company is retarded then. Read the PayPal terms.

[Anonymous No.10486457]

>>10486024
Lmao especially when the shady sellers just hang the tag off a button when AP attaches them to the zipper pull

[Anonymous No.10486458]

>>10486451
who on LM even uses fedex though

[Anonymous No.10486460]

>>10486441
We are talking about small time sellers who use PayPal. Nobody gives a shit about your small ass company and how they handle their insurance claims with FedEx. That has nothing to do with anything.

[Anonymous No.10486463]

aDdIcTiOn AnD dEsPeRaTiOn

bitch you don't NEED a dress

[Anonymous No.10486465]

>>10486069
This reminds me of how I sold the box and bag and receipt that I got when I bought something from Gucci and someone paid me $40 for them on eBay. I’m 100% sure they’re gonna use it to try to pass off a knock but it’s not my problem

[Anonymous No.10486479]

>>10486382
>I like wasting my money, why don't you?

[Anonymous No.10486487]

>>10486441
It's not about the shipping compay you dipshit, it's about the payment processor.

ANYONE who sells using PayPal is liable for any missing or lost packages. PayPal will ALWAYS decide in favor of the buyer if an item is damaged or if there is no tracking so it is not the buyers responsibility to pay for tracking/insurance, it's in the sellers best interest.

[Anonymous No.10486489]

>>10486465
ok but selling the receipt is actually shady af.

[Anonymous No.10486492]

>>10486463
people really out here acting like burando is as important as medicine ugh. Ironically, I made a small fortune on a popular print last year to pay for my insulin, ie; an actual need, but you know she'd shit all over people selling burando at the market price to pay for actual needs.

[Anonymous No.10486498]

>>10486492
As if insulin is necessary kek just lose some fucking weight and eat better

[Anonymous No.10486501]

Reminder not to respond to bait like >>10486498

[Anonymous No.10486504]

>>10486498
Its absolutely necessary if you have type 1 diabetes. You know... the kind that is genetically inhertied at birth and that isn't related to diet. I had a girl in one of my classes last year who was super skinny with that kind of diabetes. Without insulin their bodies won't be able to regulate blood sugar bc they don't produce insulin properly. It was p sad seeing her navigate it.

[Anonymous No.10486523]

>>10486504

People around here know about type I diabetes anon; we all already know about k8 and most people aware of her can logically conclude that other lolitas with type 1 probably also exist. The above anon was clearly just baiting.

[Anonymous No.10486535]

>>10486504
Fucking idiot responding to obvious bait

[Anonymous No.10486620]

>>10486034
that anon. Legit, this is true. Please share, anons

[Anonymous No.10486622]

>>10486102
^ underrated comment. This is kind of scaring me... Anon, I hope you didn't overpay for this replica?? Wow

[Anonymous No.10486630]

>>10486622
>>10486102
sometimes I wonder if the melty cream doughnuts I got on LM is a replica

[Anonymous No.10486638]

>>10486630

I sold all my chiffon AP even if it was nicer than taobao chiffon and I don't think I'll ever buy any ever again unless it's firsthand because they're the "best"/least detectable replicas very often.

[Anonymous No.10486640]

>>10486630
This is why I never bought it, I remember some replicas I saw that were nearly 1:1

[Anonymous No.10486642]

>>10486463
The amount of desperation and whining over dresses lately is hilarious. I'll post a few I found today

[Anonymous No.10486644]

This is in regards to the star toy necklace that was part of Dreamy Baby Room on a LM listing

[Anonymous No.10486645]

>>10486644
LM listing part 2

[Anonymous No.10486646]

>>10486630
MCD replicas that aren’t shit are pretty rare. Dream marine replicas are everywhere because the dress is expensive in n every market, same thing for misty sky. I wouldn’t buy misty sky anywhere but AP. MCD is fairly cheap on fril these days. The op with two socks went for $155 or so.

[Anonymous No.10486647]

>>1048664

These girls must think they’re the only girls in the world who have milky planet, sugary carnival or sugar hearts as their dream dress. I legit had a girl offer me $95 for the dreamy chick bag lmao. I can’t tell if it’s entitlement, stupidity, or naïveté.

[Anonymous No.10486648]

>>10486645
I love it when girls message me to tell me how much an item is worth rofl

[Anonymous No.10486682]

>>10486645

I saw the first comment about it releasing cheaper and the seller's response and while people are free to resell (or some say scalp but that term lost its meaning a year or two ago it feels like) jewelry for whatever price they want the justification that it's first release was pretty amusing in the context of AP jewelry where if the remake is identical the newer release is probably more desirable because it has less wear or tarnish on finishings.

The newer comments from potential buyers is just depressingly desperate. Like if the seller isn't selling for a price you find reasonable just...don't buy? You don't need a particular item to wear lolita or even really need to wear lolita but poorfags or people mad about prices are being unnecesarily aggressive. A legit scalper isn't going to lower their prices anyway so why whine about it publicly and embarrass yourself?

This fashion is full of more entitlement than is even expected amongst a bunch of us who all like to dress up in spoiled cutesy princess-esque clothing and I will never understand.

[Anonymous No.10486687]

>>10486645
>yOu sHoUlD mAkE tHe StArTiNg BiD 50 EuRo!!!

The entitlement jfc. I'd block anyone who demanded how I price my listings.

[Anonymous No.10486703]

>>10486647
Holy fuck that's pathetic.
I feel like some people are just so new to the fashion that they legitimately think that was a "good" offer. I wish people would sit back and learn something before immediately trying to get the most coveted and popular items.

[Anonymous No.10486741]

>>10486703
Some of these people aren't new, just permanent poorfags. 250-max-chan up there is fairly established if it's who I think it is.

If you refuse to pay more than MSRP that's your prerogative, but don't be a spastic nasty bitch when it literally never comes up in your budget until after lolita goes the way of the beanie baby.

[Anonymous No.10486764]

>>10485631
This sent my ass into orbit

[Anonymous No.10486768]

>>10485631
it's self-destruction either way

[Anonymous No.10486798]

>>10486741
Do you think Lolita will ever be a beanie baby situation? Every fashion dies out at some point.

[Anonymous No.10486806]

>>10486798
I hope it does, I want dirt cheap brand

[Anonymous No.10486829]

>>10486798
nah. Beanie babies were a novelty with no practical purpose or depth. Lolita has been going strong for decades and continually attracts new people.

[Anonymous No.10486847]

>>10486829
Lolita doesn't really have depth either. People will move on from aesthetics, even if it takes a generation. I used to think beanie babies were adorable but after awhile they lost their appeal.

[Anonymous No.10486851]

>>10486798
I thought it would when I first got into it 10 years ago but it’s been going strong much longer than I expected

[Anonymous No.10486856]

>>10486798
The desire to dress in frilly cute dresses will never die.

[Anonymous No.10486859]

>>10486847
It has more depth than freaking beanie babies... it takes ten seconds to learn all the deep beanie baby lore. Also there are now multiple generations wearing lolita. It started in roughly the 80s...

[Anonymous No.10486871]

>>10486798
Beanies are still around but the current ones look barely anything like the 90s ones (ha, like lolita). Old beanies were that simple timeless look of a generic, realistically colored animal with those little black eyes. Any age can appreciate a soft toy like that. Current beanies are mostly aimed at kids when it's a Husky dog with neon blue tie dye fur, flip sequins, giant glitter eyes and a unicorn horn.

The price of original beanies went down, and for a while old school was dirt cheap in like 2015/2016, but now there's been a new wave of appreciation for it and the prices have gone back up. It seems like there's still some beanies that go for a lot of money on ebay but idk if those prices are real or not.

It just makes me wonder, what will lolita look like in 5 years? 10 years? What already released pieces will become super expensive or super cheap then?

[Anonymous No.10486900]

>>10486197
Wait, no box? Are you a dumbass? ALWAYS USE A BOX.

Shit, I put my dresses in trash bags and then duct tap them in a box. I don't trust usps with a postcard let alone a $200 dress

[Anonymous No.10486911]

>>10486859
Lolita doesn't have a super deep ~lore~ either. Honestly anytime people talk about how meaningful some fashion it is it just sounds like a cope.
People thought hummel figurines and wedgewood would be timeless too. They had multiple generations into them. Times and tastes change.

[Anonymous No.10486912]

>>10486911
Wait is Wedgewood not cool anymore?

[Anonymous No.10486919]

>>10486911
I mean I'd be happier if it did lose traction because I could buy it cheaper. I just don't think it will for at least another several decades. I could be wrong.

Also, those are collectibles with no practical purpose except display. Lolita can be worn, which makes it attractive to a broader audience Moreover unlike hummel figures, which now look tacky, it changes over time along with people's tastes and trends. Its flexibility and diversity even compared to other niche fashions really gives it legs.

[Anonymous No.10486922]

>>10486900
Fuck off. Not everyone uses the fucking USPS or lives in America.

[Anonymous No.10486924]

>>10486922
Yeah some people live in the U.K. and use Hermès. Which is worse.

America also doesn’t have a monopoly of shitty shippers.

[Anonymous No.10486925]

>>10486912
wedgewood was never cool


it was ice cold

[Anonymous No.10486926]

Holy crap, this seller is ridiculous. Greed much??

[Anonymous No.10486930]

>>10486926

[Anonymous No.10486943]

>>10486645
This happens all the time in video game sales too, like instead of asking to lower the price these asshats always act like they're doing you a favor by telling you what the price was 2 weeks ago.

Hella gross, I should post what one fucker told me

[Anonymous No.10486945]

>>10486930
She's saying that she had to buy the bow separately. So I guess the next person has to as well? Just sell them together wtf. Increase the dress price by $25 if it's that big of a deal.

[Anonymous No.10486946]

>>10486930
What a cunt, I'm sure the price of the dress doesn't reflect the missing piece too

[Anonymous No.10486958]

>>10486925
I love you

[Anonymous No.10486961]

>>10486946
I want to buy just the bow so the dress is less sellable

[Anonymous No.10486962]

>>10486926
I was initially tempted bc I thought she was just selling the accessories separate. Night Carnival is my favorite print but I only own the mini skirt versions, and I'd love to get the JSK for a good price.

Then I realized she's trying to sell the dress bow separately from the dress itself. Fuck that, and fuck her. That's just straight up scamming. She didn't even list the dress as damaged/missing pieces! I went ahead and reported the listing bc that's just blatantly ripping people off. It's like trying to sell an OP but you've removed all the buttons, and listing all the buttons separately for a $30 upcharge, ffs.

[Anonymous No.10486965]

>>10486859
as long as there are fetishists the fashion will never truly die IMHO. Lolita lore is the flipside of the fetish coin

[Anonymous No.10486979]

>>10486926
>>10486930
see pic related

[Anonymous No.10486980]

>>10486979
How are you sure that's the one she bought?

[Anonymous No.10486982]

>>10486961
This is some big brain energy and I'm here for it.

[Anonymous No.10486985]

>>10486962
I'm going to sell my dresses and remove all the waist ties and sell them separately.

[Anonymous No.10486991]

>>10486644
That was some bs tho

[Anonymous No.10487053]

lmao wtf

[Anonymous No.10487054]

>>10487053
>like new

[Anonymous No.10487055]

>>10486991
What is the obsession with these? They're really ugly imo and give an age play vibe.

[Anonymous No.10487056]

>>10487055
I have no idea. This one is trying to sell for almost 300$
https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/angelic-pretty-dreamy-baby-room-star-toy-necklace-fe15d791-7eec-40cc-9692-146b321306a6

[Anonymous No.10487080]

>>10487055
They used to be quite rare due to their age. They are also prone to breaking so finding an undamaged one was hard. (the handle part will sometimes snap or come apart from the rattle).

Before the rerelease, listings for these on Japanese secondhand would be full of comments from people wanting to buy (sometimes even offering the seller more than the asking price to "beat" other buyers). They're kind of iconic AP, in my opinion. But yeah, they were never worth $300 and still aren't. Maaaaybe the limited Yokohama color.

[Anonymous No.10487105]

>>10487055
well they are supposed to resemble a baby toy

I used to dislike them because of that, but then realized they look a lot closer to a necklace that a magical girl would stealthily wear to transform, like Sakura's key necklace, and then began to like them

[Anonymous No.10487110]

>>10487105
>then realized they look a lot closer to a necklace that a magical girl would stealthily wear to transform
yea, into a baby

[Anonymous No.10487125]

>>10487110
So like a reverse version of Creamy Mami?

[Anonymous No.10487145]

>>10487105
When I first saw them without knowing the name I thought they were supposed to be a shaker lollipop. Like pic related but a lollipop instead of a cookie. To me it still looks more like a wand or a lollipop than a baby rattle.

[Anonymous No.10487147]

>>10487125
Creamy mami just sounds like a hot girl with a really wet and creamy pussy

[Anonymous No.10487196]

>>10487147

[Anonymous No.10487201]

Friendly reminder to not to reply to obvious scrote bait.

[Anonymous No.10487267]

>>10486922
nayrt but if you're shipping overseas, then yes use a box. i've bought things from retard euros who literally just taped the item up in paper, the packages tore and the items were lost. maybe it's fine domestically, but use your head

[Anonymous No.10487297]

>>10487110
no, into a cute girl with a cute outfit, which is what Lolita is

>>10487145
never heard of these, they are cute

[Anonymous No.10487298]

Creamy pussy

[Anonymous No.10487307]

I hate when I send a message asking about an item and the seller leaves it as read. Just answer it you basic bitch

[Anonymous No.10487309]

>>10487307
They don't want to sell to you. Take a hint.

[Anonymous No.10487310]

>>10487307
has it ever occurred to you that maybe you asked a stupid question?
I get so many stupid questions/requests for price drops that yeah, I ignore them. If I answered the question in my listing why should I take time out of my day because you can't read ?

[Anonymous No.10487341]

>>10487307
lol I'm glad they don't respond to you.

[Anonymous No.10487342]

>>10487297
>responding like this to a joke
autism.

[Anonymous No.10487361]

>>10487145
These look like boobs

[Anonymous No.10487530]

Wondering how crazy this auction might get. One hour to go. I thought I was stupid when I bought the ring for $60 about a year ago.

[Anonymous No.10487535]

>>10483363
>$400 for Chick-chan
What in the negro? I ain't even mad, but this doesn't seem to be the planet I was on in February

[Anonymous No.10487542]

>>10487535
>What in the negro?
sage

[Anonymous No.10487553]

>>10487530
Bid ended at $118. Sucks to be the person that lost it over $2.

[Anonymous No.10487555]

>>10487530
i almost wanted to bid on it (for funsies)

[Anonymous No.10487556]

>>10487553
Why do people start bidding so early on items? I see 7 day auctions with people throwing down bids minutes after it starts

[Anonymous No.10487558]

>>10487053
I love how people write "selling for a friend" as if theyre too embarassed to say they would choose to sell something in that condition. Or is it the friend who knows its embarassing and convinces someone else to do it??

I'm glad at least she listed them as damaged despite using contradicting words in the text

[Anonymous No.10487560]

>>10487307
My friends sister says your price is too high can you give me a discount?

[Anonymous No.10487565]

>>10487530
Almost surprised it didn't go for more (I would have bid...), admittedly it's cute

[Anonymous No.10487573]

>>10487560
Lmao did they actually send you that shit?

[Anonymous No.10487581]

>>10486031
God, these are the same bitches who want artists to work "for exposure", aren't they?

[Anonymous No.10487582]

>>10486102
>the little buttons holding the waist ties on weren’t beveled correctly
lmao, post bevel guide
(unironically! this kind of thing could be a great resource)

[Anonymous No.10487596]

>>10487556
It's always best to either be the first bidder or the last but I think it's because people forget about items if they don't bid

[Anonymous No.10487597]

>>10487556
Meh. I just go ahead and throw my max on the item, if it goes over that I'm done anyways so its better not to sit around thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.10487599]

>>10486645
>an Etsy seller could make something better for fifty bucks
Then go buy stuff from some rando on Etsy, you cheap bitch! AAAAHHHH
We all know they won't, and we all know why, so what do they even think they'll accomplish with this garbage?!

[Anonymous No.10487607]

>>10487530
This looks like a sea snail. Cute.

[Anonymous No.10487609]

>>10487053
>apart from beng destroyed they are in new, perfect condition
Mmmmhmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.10487655]

>>10487607
Oops I meant sea slug. Still cute.

[Anonymous No.10487667]

>>10487530
Fuck I didn’t see this, I would have bid more than the winner. I guess I need to keep better tabs on Lacemarket.

[Anonymous No.10487683]

>>10487267
That's interesting. I'm Euro and my post office doesn't accept items wrapped in just paper or plastic. I have to buy those specific mailing envelopes or use some kind of box.

[Anonymous No.10487786]

>URGENT SALE!
>scalping a necklace that's still available

The audacity

[Anonymous No.10487801]

This person wants to trade Honey Cake for these dresses.... how delusional.

[Anonymous No.10487807]

>>10487801
she could probably trade for carnival in the normal colorways, but if you check the link she's only looking for sax x pink. lol.

[Anonymous No.10487813]

>>10487786
I’ve been seeing a lot of “URGENT SALE”s lately, even from scalpers

[Anonymous No.10487816]

>>10487801
I've had twinkle mermaid for ages. Didn't realize people wanted it desu

[Anonymous No.10487819]

>>10487807
She's trying to trade for the most popular and rare colorways of all the dresses she listed. When did people mistake the Honey Cake fad for having actual worth? I can't imagine having Twinkle Mermaid and thinking this was a good deal. It seems more like a desperate WTB and she just slapped a dress on the listing to trade so she wouldn't be breaking rules, and could convince some misguided soul to actually sell to her.

[Anonymous No.10487821]

>>10487816
You must have been living under a rock, anon

[Anonymous No.10487822]

>>10487819
Honeycake is only worth that anywhere near that kinda money in the pink or fatty chan friendly sp of the original fabric.

[Anonymous No.10487827]

>>10487821
I've got the sax op so I think it's a little less popular? I was also surprised the ast time I saw diner doll sold. I've only sold a handful of my dresses but it's always fun to be surprised by the market.

[Anonymous No.10487830]

>>10487786
eh after international shipping and the two year wait/risk of stolen Russia packages that hardly qualifies as scalping

[Anonymous No.10487833]

>>10487830
Ok Mauro

[Anonymous No.10487834]

>>10486381
It only comes with a base insurance of 50 dollars anything else is extra with USPS.
These dresses often cost more than 250 dollars....
spend the few extra bucks for proper insurance to avoid a massive headache.

[Anonymous No.10487836]

>>10487834
oh hun. if you don't think arguing with USPS about insurance claims is a massive headache, I've got news for you..

[Anonymous No.10487838]

>>10487833
I'm assuming that's the user? Don't be stupid. At most, she's making like $5 on this. Not counting PayPal fees. See $300 for a $40 AP necklace above for examples of scalping.

[Anonymous No.10487840]

>>10487819
Honeycake was only worth it before it was re-released. Now everyone and their great aunt owns it.

[Anonymous No.10487841]

>>10487786
this is kind of ironic, i remember seeing her post on depop how she didn't want to pay more than $40? or $50 for ap wristcuffs

[Anonymous No.10487843]

>>10487834
How do you people keep missing the point?
It's PAYPALS policy to refund the buyer if the package doesn't arrive. So there is no reason for the buyer to pay for insurance.
If the seller wants to protect themselves they can buy the insurance for themselves. But making the buyer pay for it is at best ignorant.
This isn't a hard concept, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.10487844]

>>10487840
>>10487801
aren't the non-rereleased cuts/colorways still popular though? i think the special set is the most desired but idk if that was just a thing with the anon here

[Anonymous No.10487847]

>>10487840
exactly. and the polyeste is shiny and ugly. I'd pay $500+ for the pink original, and probably $300 or more for the skirt. But the MTO kinda killed it.

[Anonymous No.10487850]

>>10487786
>>10487838
Both are scalping imo. In this case it's because you can literally go and buy it. She's a moron for trying to resell it for this much and anyone who buys this would be a moron too.

[Anonymous No.10487856]

>>10487850
not really. Shes's in the USA and the product is already made. If I buy it from Etsy for $20 with shipping and it takes 2 months to get here, I'd say spending that extra $5 to get it in a week is more than worth it. We're not all poor fags willing to wait ages just to save $5

[Anonymous No.10487861]

>>10487856
>I'm American so everyone else must be!

[Anonymous No.10487862]

Since we’re on the topic, is the pink Honey Cake switching jsk more sought after than the pink round jsk?

[Anonymous No.10487865]

>>10487861
That’s not the point retard

[Anonymous No.10487873]

>>10487865
I live in Europe, so if I bought it from her it would be $40 total. Or I could buy from the etsy shop for $12 + $7 shipping that could be combined with other items. You sound awfully defensive.

[Anonymous No.10487887]

>>10487786
What's funnier is that it was listed as $35 before

[Anonymous No.10487890]

>>10487873
> She's a moron for trying to resell it for this much and anyone who buys this would be a moron too.

Anon was not talking about Europeans, but they weren’t acting like they don’t exist.

[Anonymous No.10487893]

>>10487887
It's still not scalping. And I'd pay the $20 markup if it meant I could get it quickly without the risk of stolen mail

[Anonymous No.10487896]

>>10487893
yeah everybody knows russian mail theft/fraud is so bad that almost all credit companies immediately flag your card for fraud the moment you buy something from Russia

[Anonymous No.10487898]

>>10487862
as per usual, the most sought after one is probably whichever one fits the fattest body

[Anonymous No.10487922]

>>10487843
Insurance is part of the a shipping cost, therefore the buyer has to pay for it. Most people roll PP fees into their listing price. Requiring insurance is the same, roll it into the shipping fees. Sellers acn also ship however they want and you bet your ass I am going to require insurance on a $300 dress. How daft are you?

[Anonymous No.10487925]

>>10487843
Insurance is part of the shipping cost, therefore the buyer has to pay for it. Most people roll PP fees into their listing price. Requiring insurance is the same, roll it into the shipping fees. Sellers can also ship however they want and you bet your ass I am going to require insurance on a $300 dress. How daft are you?

[Anonymous No.10487926]

>>10487922
You can roll it into the shipping fees. What I'm talking about are the sellers who ask if I want to pay optional insurance for the dress as though I can't just make a PayPal claim if I don't get the dress and win, like it's doing myself a favor to give them money for insurance. It's not. Some of them even say I'll be out of the dress is lost, which is ALSO not true. I don't know why it's so hard to read and follow this conversation.

[Anonymous No.10487939]

>>10487843
Most sellers make you pay for flat rate because they are too lazy to find materials and weigh a package. You think they'll really separate out the insurance cost?
But I think they should be paying for insurance as it's insuring they get a refund should something happen. If they agree for non tracked and uninsured, then no refunds.

[Anonymous No.10488026]

>>10486380
what annoys me is when they want you to contact them for a quote because the price differs by zip code. bitch, round up for your listing details, and we can dm about it if I'm poor.

[Anonymous No.10488029]

Ngl this girl is smart by buying a bunch of $2-$5 tights from taobao and reselling them. It might be scalping but the amount is so little I ain't even mad.

[Anonymous No.10488045]

>>10488029
More power to her but I'm sick of seeing these and those fucking angel bags she's hawking in New Listings

[Anonymous No.10488068]

>>10486980
You can by the miss-aligned sheer part of the top bow.

[Anonymous No.10488069]

>>10487836
My local post office shoots down any claims I try to make, even if it's insured, so long as the package is marked as "Delivered." They lost 3 of my insured orders last year and refuse to look into the matter

[Anonymous No.10488071]

>>10487898
unfortunate. that's the only cut and colorway i care about so i guess i'll have to shell out $600 for a stained, stretched out dress whenever resident fatty-chan decides to give it up

[Anonymous No.10488074]

>>10488029
They're cute too, and about what I'd pay after shipping unless I want to wait 3 months for airmail from China.

[Anonymous No.10488076]

Ugh must be chinese, trying to shill that stupid coat no one wants.

[Anonymous No.10488083]

>>10488076
the seller is in the midwest but ok go off poorfag

[Anonymous No.10488110]

>>10487801
Speaking of delusional, this girl wants sugary carnival or the pony bags for fruits parlor.

[Anonymous No.10488127]

>>10488076

Well the dress alone could probably sell for that much, so the socks, beret, and coat are really just a nice bonus.

[Anonymous No.10488184]

>>10488029
The two designs for these tights are nice but they got holes on the toes after one wear and the black dye smeared onto a pair of boots I wore with them so be cautious

[Anonymous No.10488800]

>>10487898
kek, it's funny because it's true
but also sad

[Anonymous No.10488838]

>>10487862
>>10487898
The switching is cuter and now more rare, but chubby chans fit the round. Do with that info what you will.

[Anonymous No.10488869]

>>10488838
Dang, I have the round in pink, and I’m jealous of people who have the switching

[Anonymous No.10488923]

>>10488026
? The price difference for me from one state to another varies by about 33% to double or more depending on weight

[Anonymous No.10488946]

>>10483578
I paid the same amount for mine like 3 years ago! Shipping included.
I was fucking shocked when one of my friends recently told me about one that sold for like $350. The same thing happened with a rilakkuma cardigan I had bought around the same time too. Had someone offer me $500 for the damn thing.Ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.10488964]

And the award for the worst pic on LM goes too:

This fucker

[Anonymous No.10488971]

>>10488964
Does... does she know she can just hang it up and take a photo if it doesn't fit? What the fuck

[Anonymous No.10488973]

>>10488964
I mean.. sex sells???? is that what she's going for ? ooof

[Anonymous No.10488976]

>>10488964
Don’t forget the description

[Anonymous No.10488977]

>>10488976
>I'm having a mental breakdown
Well I guess that explains it?

[Anonymous No.10488981]

>>10488971
It looks like it fits somewhat well, but she intentionally left it unbuttoned to show off her cleavage.

[Anonymous No.10488982]

>>10488976
awe well now I legit feel bad for her. It's not an easy time to be alive rip.

[Anonymous No.10488983]

>>10488976
It's not BRAND NEW if you're WEARING IT with your TITS OUT

I wish we could blacklist accounts

[Anonymous No.10488984]

>>10488981
No way, it looks like her bust was too big for it

[Anonymous No.10488994]

I have a buyer that's ghosting me after bidding on an auction. It's been almost a week now and still no reply...should I just relist the item and tell the LM mods about her?

[Anonymous No.10488999]

>>10488994
Yeah, relist and negative feedback. Maybe first warn her that you'll leave a negative if you don't hear a response if you're feeling kind, but you're under no obligation to do so.

[Anonymous No.10489003]

>>10488999
It's really strange that she hasn't read any of my messages or replied to my emails.
She usually replied very fast before, I actually kept the dress aside for her because she said it was her dream dress.
I feel like my trust for people took a huge hit, never doing that again.

[Anonymous No.10489026]

>>10488994
>>10489003
Possibly give her a warning like the other anon suggested since she has responded quickly in the past? Or ask for an explanation? Maybe an emergency happened.

But if that don't respond after that, absolutely relist (or contact the second highest bidder since you said it was an auction) and give negative feedback

[Anonymous No.10489087]

>>10489026
>>10488999
Thanks for the advice anons. I'm a little worried about her since it has been days, hope it's just her ghosting me and not something terrible happening to her.

[Anonymous No.10489100]

>>10488869
Same anon. I have an original yellow round and I desperately want to swap it for a switching cut of literally any color.

[Anonymous No.10489194]

> only worn five times
> condition: new with tags

And for $750? This dress is still available new for $175. I'm so fucking confused.

[Anonymous No.10489195]

>>10489194
>no feedback
Must be a troll

[Anonymous No.10489200]

>>10489194
Wasn't the giant sized version of this dress as massive failiure too? I remember seeing some post about how terribly it'd been drafted

[Anonymous No.10489278]

>>10489200
Every VF dress is terribly darfted tho

[Anonymous No.10489312]

>>10489278
I’ve never seen a VF that laid nicely in person and there are a ton of people in my comm that buy/wear her stuff. Always a weird fit

[Anonymous No.10489368]

>>10489312
This. I remember people bitching about it being racist that people don't buy from non-asian brands, but basically every western brand is a clusterfuck. You either have to wait 500 years, deal with spotty quality, poor patterning, high pricing, and generally meh designs. So yeah people aren't exactly turning up for western brands.

[Anonymous No.10489421]

>>10489368
r.r memorandum seems okay

[Anonymous No.10489452]

What do you guys think of onegaishi shop?

[Anonymous No.10489460]

>>10489452
Scalpers

[Anonymous No.10489483]

>>10489460
This one reeks of poorfaggery

[Anonymous No.10489503]

>>10489452
A decent amount of scalping and reselling.
They're reselling literal $2 taobao socks for $25-$30 and I think they may be buying dresses off of the eastern secondhand markets and placing big markups on them.

[Anonymous No.10489509]

>>10489503
100% they are. It's smart, especially with the payment plans and offer to alter brand bigger. I think it's fine but slightly obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.10489516]

>>10489452
Has anyone used them as a shopping service before? I've seen them post on instagram about how apparently you can just tell them what dress you're hunting for and they'll find it (or at least try). I've been considering trying them out to help me find a dream dress.

[Anonymous No.10489522]

>>10489516
I wondered about this too. But I was scared to try it out because how is the price determined? I don't want to give them a dress to search for and they come back and tell me they bought it but I'll owe them $600+

[Anonymous No.10489531]

>>10489421
Their stuff looks really cute but I believe there's only the one girl sewing and running it so they don't keep much stock and some things sell out right away

[Anonymous No.10489537]

>>10489516
>>10489522
Maybe ask what their percentage fee is? Or ask if they can confirm if the price is okay before they go ahead and purchase for you?
That's really problematic if they just go ahead and buy something without asking if the price is within your budget.

[Anonymous No.10489567]

>>10489421
They sell like one pair of bloomers, a tee and a head dress and they all tend to be sold out

[Anonymous No.10489588]

>>10489516

That person running it is someone who kinda scalps but more often just mildly overprices and flips stuff on LM. Some items it's bad, some it's reasonably priced. I expect them to charge out the ass on the finder's fee.

And as gulls have mentioned before, you have no way of knowing how hard this dress finding service is actually looking for you unless you are checking regularly for your desired item yourself to keep tabs on them at which point you're wasting your money.

[Anonymous No.10489591]

>>10489588

Oh wow just checked LM and their shop and their prices are reasonable now for brand stuff (or maybe my perspective is different in comparison to the current market), they're just reselling reasonably priced brand and overpriced cheap taobao items now.

[Anonymous No.10489613]

>>10489588
I think I'm doing a pretty good job keeps tabs on all the sites but where I run into trouble is if the item is snagged by someone else before the shopping service purchases it, so I guess for me the value would be if the onegashi person finds it and then is immediately able to purchase it (which I guess I would have to pre-approve a certain budget or something). I'll probably message them and ask for more info, if I end up doing it I can post about my experience if anyones interested.

>>10489591
Honestly I can't really bring myself to care about taobao scalping anymore. There are so many guides to using taobao now if you don't know how to use an SS to order it yourself then at this point its survival of the fittest.

[Anonymous No.10489625]

>>10489591
Yeah, currently their prices for brand items are reasonable (around the original retail price), but a little while ago they had some of the highest prices ($900+)

[Anonymous No.10489758]

>>10489312
I have two skirts from VF and one dress. The skirts are great, no problems there (It would probably be hard to draft a skirt badly?) but the JSK is poorly drafted. It's a shame because I like the print. Maybe I should make it into a skirt and use the fabric from the bodice to make accessories.
One thing I'll give VF though; their tights are really good. One pair, I've had for years, have worn many times, and the print still hasn't faded and there aren't any holes yet. And I'm very clumsy and prone to tearing things.

>>10489421
Yeah, I really wanted a skirt from them but it sold out while I was checking out. My understanding is that it's one person making everything atm, but that she plans on outsourcing production. So hopefully soon, it'll be possible to buy her designs with less of a bloodbath. My one tiny gripe with the design of her skirts is I wish it was a half-elastic waist rather than a full-elastic one. I just think half-elastic looks neater.

[Anonymous No.10490057]

>>10489758
Why is the gathering on that second tier so uneven? This girl can't sew.

[Anonymous No.10490167]

Origami Musume is a fucking scalping cunt.
why would anyone buy her overpriced shit?
I am tired of seeing her posts, such blatant scalping should be banned off lacemarket

[Anonymous No.10491378]

Read this review on a rando's profile. I mean, I understand that a shoebox might not be the best way to ship, but if the dress was unharmed, why leave negative feedback?

[Anonymous No.10491508]

>>10483369
Being poor isn't funny.

[Anonymous No.10491822]

>>10489452
I've purchased two pairs of socks both were nwt and decently priced. No issues, shipped quickly.

[Anonymous No.10491930]

>>10490167
I don't care about overseas scalpers, if a rich westerner buys it then at least we can get the piece into circulation over here. It will get cheaper every time it gets sold. Since the only other option is that it gets sold to china, it's not much of an option

[Anonymous No.10492353]

>>10491378
A box is a box, a hole is a hole.

[Anonymous No.10496824]

Bruh nig