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>> No.10572788
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>>10572785
Posting some recent releases

BTSSB - Little Lady Camellia Series

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>>10572788
In pink

>> No.10572790
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>>10572789
AATP - Betrayal ~Plot of Rose~

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>>10572790
In white

>> No.10572797

>>10572790
I'm very sad I missed the reservation period for this. It's beautiful

>> No.10572800

>>10572789

why do i love this.

>> No.10572829

>>10572789
I'm going to be a basic normie bitch and say Elle Woods.
I wish they didn't use so much tulle on this though. It cheapens the look.

>> No.10572840

>>10572829
If you mean the chiffon ruffles, same. I think it would have looked better with solid cotton or polycotton ruffles or even just nothing. I like the ribbon they used between the hem and hem ruffles though. Wish they'd have used more of it

>> No.10572851

>>10572790
What are the chances of them restocking the black hat? It sold out before I knew about this release :(

>> No.10572890
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10572890

Anyone planning to get a copy of this? I only read an excerpt, and the writing is terrible. I'm curious how bad the rest of the book is

>> No.10572909

>>10572890
It's a YA novel anon, dial back on the salt

>> No.10572911

If you're a lolita who's planning to get married soon/at some point, have you considered wearing lolita to your wedding? Do you feel like that would be less special since you already wear it regularly or be more special since it is something so personal to you? If you aren't wearing lolita, what style of dress appeals to you instead? Something similarly princessy or completely different?

>> No.10572917

>>10572890
all the lolitas I've seen post about this book on ig are very sjw-adjacent. make of that what you will

>>10572909
most american "YA" is aimed at women in their late 20s anyway

>> No.10572930

>>10572911
yeah I'm gonna wear lolita, I'll probably buy some nice solid piece specifically for the event but I don't want it to be white bc white is such an ugly boring color that's unflattering on 100% of everyone. most brides look terrible bc they're too much of sheep to realize white dresses for weddings should be bridesmaid dresses, bc anyone who wears a nice color next to someone wearing white automatically looks better than the person in white. brides have been shooting themselves in the foot for over a hundred years with the ugly white bullshit

>> No.10572968

>>10572911
I plan to get married, but, although I do find it endearing, I do not intend to wear Lolita to it. I'd love to wear a ridiculously long and fluffy dress that scatters to the floor, and, unfortunately, Lolita can't provide me that.

>> No.10572970

>>10572789
That's cute in an almost normie way. I love it, but I cannot see myself wearing it neither in lolita nor in my office wear.

>> No.10572996

>>10572917
Really? I know exactly zero late 20s women reading YA, but when I was a teenager it was pretty popular.

>> No.10572999

>>10572996
Maybe it's an American thing? Or maybe the YA description is a bit general?
Thinking YA as Harry Potter or Twilight, I do not see many 20's reading that, let alone late-20's.

>> No.10573004

>>10572999
Late 20s and 30s people may be reading new Harry Potter stuff or things like Midnight Sun (Twilight from Edward's perspective) out of nostalgia since they were kids or teens when it was at peak popularity. I know millennials as a generation in particular are often obsessed with HP.

I still read new books from authors I liked as a teen if they seem interesting out of nostalgia and curiosity where old characters have gone or how their writing has changed on occasion.

Also with cringe culture dying down a bit, a lot of people are just enjoying things they never felt like they could without being judged as a kid. Especially things that were deemed stupid or dumb or bad just because a majority of its audience was teen girls (even if those things were problematic in other ways, most people hated it because it was stuff for "dumb girls")

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>>10572911
The older I've gotten, the more lolita has become a staple of my daily life to the point where I feel like I wouldn't feel fully myself if I didn't wear lolita to my wedding. I'd probably wear something more tea-length; I own pic related and I've contemplated commissioning a custom dress that would be floor-length on me, if not wearing the dress itself when the day comes

>> No.10573008

>>10572911

Lolita really wouldn't be my first style to wear as a main piece for a wedding but it'd be really nice for dinner or a photoshoot imo. I'm probably overthinking this though, honestly I'll probably end up zooming my wedding in these conditions and I don't really give a shit about planning other than the dress.

>> No.10573009

>>10573005
Same. My only thing is I'm not sure if I want one of those big crazy burando wedding dresses (sweetfag) or to wear a simple longer white OP. I want my wedding to be relatively low key so I'm not sure if the big dress is really that needed since I don't like buying things I would only get to wear on one big occasion.

>> No.10573025

>>10572999
I am American, most adult women I know read either non-fiction, classics, sci-fi, or post modern fiction such as Murakami or Philip K Dick. I do know women who are HP fans, but none of them re-read the books. I always thought the "read another book" meme was sarcastic, prodding fun at the discussion of the series not literal since most people have indeed read another book

>> No.10573026

>>10572911
I am planning to elope and I am thinking I will. Probably something more classic style. It'll look nice to my normie family in pictures and I love the idea of finding a wedding dress I can use after the wedding. Every time I pull it out to wear I will get to remember my wedding with my husband.
Plus a Victorian Maiden dress will never be super dated. The style is timeless. I would rather not end up with photos with a subtype of lolita that eventually I will have grown out of, but even that has its charms.

>> No.10573027

>>10572911
I think I would wear it to my bachelorette party, but not my actual wedding. While I love lolita and think it's really fun, it doesn't fit the image of the classy wedding I want to have.

>> No.10573033

>>10572911
I absolutely plan on wearing lolita to my wedding. I disagree with the anti-white dress sentiment ITT since I'm tan as fuck and I find white is one of my better colors (I might just wear pink anyways though kek). I've seen the wedding releases from both brands and although I am a diehard APfag I prefer Baby's OTT bridal styles more. I find it really unique too that Baby does MTO on those styles so you can customize it to your liking. Also, bridal dresses in lolita actually seem to be more affordable than normie-adjacent designers. I'd rather wear an intricate, detailed style that I feel comfortable in and makes me feel like a true princess over shelling out $5-10k for a design that is 10x more boring and 20x less sentimental.

>> No.10573036

At this point I've had both doses of the coronavirus vaccine, and at least a few people in my comm have been vaccinated as well (mostly people who work essential jobs). By when do you gulls think it will be safe to resume having IRL meetups? I hope that soon it will be safe to at least have outdoor meetups (like picnics where people can sit spaced out on separate blankets) or indoor meetups where we wear masks the whole time (like trips to museums or ice rinks).

>> No.10573037
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>>10572911
i want to wear a nice AP solid in ivory, something like vioretta or something slightly more OTT. something with long sleeves because long sleeved wedding dresses are cute. it would still feel special to me because i only wear very sweet sweet, so wearing something more elegant will be a happy feeling

there are lots of beautiful "normie" wedding dresses, but i don't think any of them would make me as happy as something like pic related

>> No.10573056

>>10573036
I've seen some comms have outdoor meetups already. Usually at public gardens. I haven't been to one, but I don't think it is that bad to do them now.
I wouldn't risk going to a restaurant with my comm-mates yet, but I would be okay with an outdoor meet if everyone was careful. If they are not being careful I would just leave.

>> No.10573058

>>10573036

Considering I've seen some of the comm at extremely crowded events even before the vaccine came out, I'd only hang out with my friends and not the comm at large yet.

>> No.10573124

>>10573036
CDC has updated their guidelines for vaccinated people. Even if most of my comm is vaccinated, I'd still avoid public meets until the general public is vaccinated, which could take months. I don't want to deal with people getting the wrong idea httpss://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

>> No.10573127

why doesn't baby do mtos for print dresses? i'd love mtos for kumya dresses

>> No.10573131

>>10573127
baby is a lot better about doing reservations + adding additional runs/rereleases to popular dresses

>> No.10573136

>>10573036
Outdoor gatherings were always safe, the messaging on the dangers of outdoor gatherings is one of the biggest mistakes made by the CDC and officials during this pandemic.

The real danger has always been multiple people gathered indoors, with little air flow, without a mask, talking and eating.

CDC says that vaccinated people can gather in small groups indoors without masks or physical distance.

The CDC also says that a vaccinated person can visit an unvaccinated single household without masks or social distance, provided the household is low risk.

Keep in mind that the CDC is always going to give stricter guidance than what the general public follows. The CDC recommends that women should have one or less alcoholic drink a day and that people should only having vaginal oral sex when using a dental dam, and hardly anyone actually does that, even people really concerned about STDs.

Covid isn’t ever going away completely, and as more people get vaccinated, we are going to have to grapple with the idea of dealing with some small risk every single time we socialize.

To answer you question, I think meetups can happen by in full swing between people vaccinated and unvaccinated by June.

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Gulls, I've found this dress and loved it, but since it is from a chinese brand I'm not so sure about its quality. Can anyone helpe me find at least some more pictures (specially from another buyer) of this JSK? The print has the same name from another Alice and the Pirates print so I can't really find it aside from the same pictures. Thanks, ladies.
https://www.devilinspired.com/sugar-plum-fairy-lolita-dress-jsk-by-ocelot.html

>> No.10573152

>>10572890
I wish the author the best but there's so many references only lolitas would understand. Cute cover though

Link for the curious: https://www.struckbystories.com/cover-reveal-excerpt-magic-mutant-nightmare-girl-by-erin-elizabeth-grammar/

>> No.10573163

>>10573152
Stop shilling your shitty Mary Sue novel here. It is as terrible as your attempts to seem like you aren’t self-posting.

>> No.10573166

>>10573152
Chi Ho? why do white chicks always have to write in the asian sidekick as having some super fobby name wtf
>she's from Ohio
ahh this makes sense she's never seen a uwu azn grl in real life

>> No.10573175

>>10573140
Here's the Taobao link, photos in the comments: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=572077430394
Next time use the stupid questions thread or the Taobao thread

>> No.10573229

>>10572917

>Sjw adjacent
>Can't see tokenism in this shitty ass """book"""

Proves that if they aren't spoon fed critique they wouldn't fucking know shit if it hit them in the face.

>> No.10573260

>>10572789
Clueless kei
or
Dolores Umbridge kei

>> No.10573274

>>10573152
I got a digital copy, there's a glossary in the back for normies. Its okay so far. I've seen worse.

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>>10572930
>bpdcamwhore discussing good taste
>while owning dreamy baby room

>>10572911
I am set on a black gown and my wife also wishes for a black one. One lolita dress i'd like as a wedding dress is the Vioretta OP. even though i'm not much of an APfag it looks nice in all black

>> No.10573339

>>10573260
Dude do you not know who coco chanel is holy shit

>> No.10573345

>>10572790
Nooooo I was waiting for this to come out when they dropped the fashion 'show' video but forgot to check back and now it's gone! Why does this always happen with me and AATP hats...

>> No.10573381

There is already a thread in the plus size lolita Facebook group complaining that the new plus size meta OP isn’t big enough lol

>> No.10573408

>>10573381
The strawberry one? I am literally morbidly obese (working on it tho) and weigh like 200lbs and it would fit me with room to spare. The blouse is even more huge.

It is smaller than some of their extra huge plus plus sized things but nothing ever needed to be that big desu. Meta is doing us fatties a favor making plus sizes, and doing a pretty damn good job. I'm shocked anyone has the nerve to complain.

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>>10573408
Nah this one. It says in the listing:

"Some sizes have not been decided in the production version because this product is still in the design stage. Sizes not listed above will be announced as soon as they decided. We will announce the sizes to the customers who pre-order this product by email. We will accept cancellation if you want to do so due to the size, and will arrange a refund."

Personally, i dont think this dress would look good on a larger individual.

>> No.10573440

>>10573433
What's the sizing going to be? The preorder isn't open yet so are they just preemptively bitching about it without having any idea on the size range?

>> No.10573447

>>10573433

Wow I can't believe people are bitching about this. They are admitting they haven't decided for sure and are willing to cancel orders for sizing reasons once sizes are released. I really don't see the issue? This dress won't look halfway decent on anyone bigger than a US xl and even then only if you are very well proportioned on the larger end.

>> No.10573474

>>10573381
caps anon, this is an image board

>> No.10573485

>>10573131
but they could be making twice as much money with mtos. i don't get it

>> No.10573493

>>10572911
I'd like to get married in one of the BTSSB wedding dresses. I loved the Kumya one they released two years ago that sold out instantly.

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>>10573474
She left the group when people weren’t all in 100% agreement with her and also loudly voiced her disdain for the phrase “plus size friendly” cus it’s not woke enough lol

>> No.10573520

>>10573518
Everyone loves calling meta the fatty brand but some pieces like these are smaller than a lot of AP pieces kek

>> No.10573530

>>10573520
Those also are not the final measurements, see like two posts up

And this isn’t like a fully shirred piece, it’s a structured a-line OP, there’s only so much you can do for the size

>> No.10573531

>>10573518
The fit of this dress is not like the previous dresses released in plus size anyone with eyes can see that it wouldn't be as forgiving as one with shirring. That being said their regular size is bigger than I thought it would be.

>> No.10573920

People who are getting their Freshly picked strawberries mto, where did you order? I ordered mine with tenshi and am wondering if I should shoot her an email or if I should just wait a bit longer.

>> No.10573939

>>10573127
>>10573485

The way Baby runs their reservations, if it sells out fast enough then they'll usually run a second, even a third round if the second is also a bloody bloodbath (the shipping dates are later than the first round). If the third round is also a blood bath they also put stock up in the store when it goes live, and I've even seen them restock bloodbath dresses randomly after everything is released and shipped.

If the release wasn't bloodbathy enough to run a second round of reservations I doubt an MTO would earn them all that much more money.

>> No.10573943

>>10573920
I ordered mine from APUSA at the end of July last year. It says the estimated delivery date is this September

>> No.10573971

>>10573920
Based on how HC (and possibly other) MTOs got delivered sooner in the US than Japan for some people means that we will likely still get ours around the same time as USA orders.

>> No.10573996

>>10572890
Read the reviews on goodreads. The real ones, and not the ones written by the author's friends. It's not good and it even fails at being a good SJW book because it plays up on stereotypes and the main character is a cunt.

>> No.10574001

>>10572996
Google "Young Adult Book Market Demographics" for facts and figures. 70% of YA titles are purchased by people 18+. There is an enormous community of adults reading YA and the most money from releases comes from well established adults with homes and families. Teenagers aren't the ones investing in buying multiple copies of books, exclusive editions from multiple companies, tour editions, etc. The tl;dr is that the age of YA fans has gone up since Harry Potter. Fans who read Harry Potter as kids just kept reading YA into adulthood. Teenagers are not the main demographic of YA and many YA books verge on erotica at this point, with adult protagonists and graphic sex scenes.

Back on topic though-
>>10573518
People are just really never happy enough. You don't give them plus size, they beg for plus size. You give them plus size, its never big ENOUGH. Plus plus size, everyone is happy for a time, but eventually they'll be asking for a plus plus plus size. Its annoying.

>> No.10574021

>>10573152
lol the ending
> Killing a man only bothered me a little.
> But the most awful part of it all sank in as water from my showerhead blasted my trembling hand.
> I’d ruined my favorite dress.
> Fat tears flowed down my cheeks. Puppet Circus—an ultra-rare and expensive print from 2006—was gone from me forever. Or at least until I found it for sale on the secondhand market again. And who knew—I lamented as I sobbed beneath the near-scalding stream—how long that was going to take.

>> No.10574040

>>10573152
>"Fierce women designed brands like Angelic Pretty and Baby the Stars Shine Bright for others like them. "
Wasn't Baby opened by a man?

This entire excerpt sounds like its written to make fun of lolitas but she's entirely fucking serious.

>> No.10574046

>>10573920
Nagoya shopping service. They are picking them up this week.

>> No.10574066

>>10574040
It was a married couple.

>> No.10574069

quick question, not sure if it goes here, but does hoyoyo buy items from fril sellers who won't sell to SS? fromjapan won't buy me this item i want.

>> No.10574114

>>10574069
This belongs in the stupid questions thread

>> No.10574115

>>10574114
NTA but is it still even up?

>> No.10574118

>>10574066
That’s cute as fuck ngl

>> No.10574119

>>10572911
I wore lolita to mine! My typical style is pretty casual, so I chose a really fancy OTT op for my dress. I resold it after for about the same I paid, too. Way better than spending four figures on a dress and not being able to do anything with it after IMO.

>> No.10574139

>>10574119
>I resold it after for about the same I paid, too.
Honestly that's the best case I've heard for it so far. Wedding dresses immediately depreciate in value the moment you buy them because of the pressure to buy things firsthand and altered to fit. There is a prominent secondhand market, but its a hard sell. Lolita dresses tend to hold their value, and in some cases even appreciate. And if you did want to keep it and wear it again to a lolita event, you totally could. Wedding dresses are so much harder to wear a second time. They're basically trash or a souvenir after the first wear.

I wouldn't wear a lolita dress for my wedding but I like the idea.

>> No.10574187

does EGL wall of shame only let in other itas?

>> No.10574189

>>10573920
ap USA lol I’m stuck waiting until September

>> No.10574190

>>10574187
Clearly

>> No.10574214

Alright, Gulls! You have to change your sub style but your options are 1 punk 2sailor 3country or 4wa/qi. What do you pick?

>> No.10574216

>>10574214
country. i can just repurpose my fruit themed prints and solids and buy some cute basket purses.

>> No.10574218

>>10574046
Who?
Also I saw some people in the USA already have theirs

>> No.10574228

>>10574214
Sailor. Fill my wardrobe with years worth of cute Meta sailor releases.

>> No.10574231

>>10574214
I am already country, and I already have one sailor dress. Of the other 2, I would definitely pick punk because it works for more occasions. I'm not asian, so I would feel strange wearing wa/qi outside of a culture festival.

>> No.10574237

>>10574214
I wear western punk regularly as my "normie" clothes and would normally reach for that, but there's only so many looks you can do with tartan until it gets boring or turns into not-lolita territory, so I'm going for sailor. toot toot bitches it's time to get aboard my motherfuckin steamboat

>> No.10574256

>>10574214
1. Country: I have a thing for berry and fruit prints and it probably makes up 1/4 of my wardrobe. I'd just add in some florals for good measure. Also, more straw hats and bags.

2. Sailor: Another 1/4 is already sailor or marine/shell theme. If I added some sailor styled tops and more accessories I could probably wear this most of the time. But I really love a good simple sailor coordinate.

I don't think punk is for me, and wa/qui isn't really my thing. I'm glad there are more very nice options now, but I can't get over babbys first bodyline wa-lolita from the days of yore.

>> No.10574257

>>10574214
I'd probably feel most comfy in punk, but Sailor is a good second choice.

I enjoy the integration of DIY aesthetics of well done punk with lolita. Plus more irregular hemlines.

>> No.10574274

>>10574187
Yes and the mods ban you if you question their shitty power trips.

>> No.10574281

>>10574214
Also either country or sailor. I feel like for wa/Qi even though it's pretty you can't easily swap western style accessories like you can with country lolita

>> No.10574283

I happened on a sissy stealing lolitas' pictures and reposting them for fetish purposes. I reported it.. would be cool if you guys do too/check to see if you're on there

https://www.flickr.com/people/154616405@N08/

>> No.10574286

>>10574214
Country, almost all of my classic dresses can fit this with some accessory changes.

>> No.10574292

>>10574283
Oh god the pictures that he added text to...

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>>10574292
I feel bad for all the lolitas on here

>> No.10574298

>>10574283
So we don’t have permission to use this fucker’s photos but he has permission to use ours?

>> No.10574326

>>10574283
this is why I hate men

>> No.10574331

>>10574298
>Any institutions or individuals using this site or any of its associated sites for studies or projects- You DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO USE any of my profile or pictures in any form or forum both current and future. If you have or do, it will be considered a VIOLATION OF MY PRIVACY and will be subject to LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.

>> No.10574342

>>10572911
I would prefer to wear shit like this >>10572792

>> No.10574372

>>10574297
Is this k8 on the right or am I going crazy?

>> No.10574376

>>10574214
Punk, definitely. I’ve tried it a few times but never felt like I got it good enough to post online ... one day, though!

>> No.10574377

>>10574372
Pretty sure it is

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I'm really excited that I got teacup cat JSK in pink in it's full set. (Dress, valetta, tights, and apparently a ring and brooch?)
For some reason I have 0 memory of this dress's release, but from what I can tell it sold out incredibly fast.
No wonder- just look at these cats!

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10574394

BTSSB just released the Kumya heart embroidery series.

>> No.10574398

>>10574394
Damn those bows on her cheeks look stupid

>> No.10574399

>>10574394
JESUS, I am in love.
Did they set a release date?

>> No.10574402

>>10574399
I think it's open for lottery reservations(?) 12-15 March. There are three cuts with two limited and three standard colorways.

>> No.10574405

>>10574402
Is it a China only release? I cannot find anything on the Japanese website.

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Both JSK cuts in the limited colorways

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10574408

The JSK I cut in the standard colorways

>> No.10574409

>>10574405
I think the march 12-15 dates are store pre-orders only. The standard colorways may be released online after.

>> No.10574412

>>10574409
Thank you for the spoonfeed.

>> No.10574416

>>10574408
I desperately need literally all of these

>> No.10574421

>>10574408
I’m ready to fight for the sax or pink

>> No.10574423

>>10574408
Do you think this will make it to Baby USA or should I fight for it on the Japanese side?

>> No.10574425

>>10574423
I feel the standard colorways should make it to baby USA but take that with a grain of salt. I'm interested in one of the limited colors so I've already contacted an SS.

>> No.10574426

>>10574283
KEK

funny but also disgustang I hate sissys and their need to make everything about their perverted life!

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>>10574283

>> No.10574430

>>10573920
I ordered mine with Tenshi too and still haven't heard anything, I'm starting to get worried.

>> No.10574431

>>10574408
Oh dang, is that all embroidery? Its so cute....

>> No.10574432

>>10574428
K8 on the right.... and the left looks familiar. Looks like baninabear??

>> No.10574434

>>10574428
>>10574432
yes LMAO if i were them i'd be crying rn

>> No.10574436
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10574436

The matching kumyas are killing me

>> No.10574438

>>10574394 >>10574406 >>10574408
OMG I hope this sells well / starts a trend. Embroidery machines are super advanced at this point and it would not be hard for other brands to start doing this too at a reasonable manufacturing cost. It might sound nutty, but I'd like to see some re-releases of the more "meh" AP prints but with embroidery overlayed to enhance / embellish the print. Maybe take an all-over print and basically "add" a border print out of embroidery?


>>10574297 >>10574428
It just shows this weirdo sissy does not see Lolitas in full coords as actual human beings. He probably looks at them as models dressed in costumes / dressed up as characters and not as extensions of their personal selves. It also probably implies a lot about how the sissy views other humans in general, which is then probably why they've developed such a particular fetish. (note they are even using a third Lolita, Lor, as their profile pic).

>> No.10574444

>>10574408
Ugh these are SO cute but I hate that ugly dot tulle lace at the bottom. Would be so much better with cotton lace.

>> No.10574451

>>10574444
The OP has cotton lace but I don't like the cut as much.

>> No.10574455

>>10574451
can somebody spoonfeed me pictures of the OP please? i've gotta know

>> No.10574458

>>10574406
>>10574408
the pale colors are so low-contrast it's hard to see the embroidery, and the black is so high-contrast that it's hard to focus on the embroidery. The red has the best balance of values, but I'm not sure I want such a bold color. I wish they had done bardeux or a darker pink or even a chocolate brown since it looks valentines-y. Still want it tho.

>> No.10574470

>>10574438
>It also probably implies a lot about how the sissy views other humans in general
>humans
I think you meant to say "women", anon. That fetish is inherently misogynistic because scrotes see femaleness and femininity as something humiliating due to the lack of respect they have for us.

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10574474

>>10574455
Here you go anon.

>> No.10574476

>>10574438
Said it before, but I think the benefit of embroidery could also be to rerelease screenprinted things as embroidered or with a combo of embroidery and applique instead like PC or even cotton screenprint pieces. Would allow for rereleases without messing with the value of the original and AP could get a feel for it and start making more new stuff with it. The Moco Moco Bunnys cutsew OP is definitiely the most interesting of all of those lately because of the added applique (even though the bunny looks a little derpy), I bet AP could easily come up with some other cool things like that.

>> No.10574479

>>10574434
baninabear deserves it for her fetishist pandering. some people claim that's why her petti peeks out all the time or she is often taking jumping shots, but I hate her for that cow coord where she used hucow tags. it wasn't even like meme/year of the ox related it was a while ago and I gagged, she legit panders to fetishists on purpose and deserves this

i'm indifferent to/dgaf about k8 so i don't feel good or bad either way. this sissy is complete cringe though, he did lor dirty using her pic as his profile image too

>> No.10574481

>>10574408
just got my spot for the red one heck yes

>> No.10574483
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10574483

>did my research
>feels need to tell I wear the fashion to imply I'm not a lolita at heart, which often means they are
>What's a coord?
What kind of research did she do? It's one of the first things you'll find in all these beginner lolita guides the internet is flooded with, geez.

>> No.10574484

>>10574458
I agree. To be fair though, the dress photos seem a bit overexposed, the pink embroidery looks better in this photo >>10574394

>> No.10574486

>>10574438
>note they are even using a third Lolita, Lor, as their profile pic
I could honestly see a sissy mistaking Lor as one of their kind, but why is he trying to pass off K8 and baninabear as men?? Neither of them look masculine at all in this photo. Is it like a play-pretend thing and he’s just attaching random photos to his made up storylines?

>> No.10574487
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10574487

close up of the white x pink limited colorway

>> No.10574520

>>10574487
that is so pretty up close, and the cotton lace looks 10x better. see you gulls in the bloodbath

>> No.10574538

>>10574486
because if he used photos of actual men, it wouldn't look good kek

>> No.10574541

>>10574538
I feel kinda bad for Lor desu. But really any lolita posting pics of themselves is at risk of this. Between photo stealing sissies and cgl, I will never post pics of myself in lolita on my sm

>> No.10574545

>>10574541
I’m kind of amazed they used lor seeing how hideous she is.

>> No.10574549

>>10574545
I think he used her because she is homely looking so he could convince himself he looks just as feminine/female as a real woman (when despite not being pretty, Lor is still pretty clearly female)

>> No.10574555

>>10574283
kind of ironic this creature says that people stealing photos will suffer legal ramifications considering all it's photos are stolen from other people.

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10574557

>>10574555
dropped photo

>> No.10574559
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10574559

>>10574557
and here's the rest of it's social media as well, in case yall wanted to maybe report that too

>> No.10574563

How do you guys deem something to be vendetta?

>> No.10574616

>>10574563
When someone consistently posts the same person, especially if they don’t deserve it

>> No.10574617

>>10574616
this is a shit description of what vendetta posting is

>> No.10574633

>>10574563
usually if bringing up a person feels out of place/if their comments are a-logging or something similar.

posting someone consistently to the ita thread because they're an ita? toes the line, but if they're an ita then they belong on the thread. constantly bringing up somebody who's well-dressed and doesn't have any drama (or stale drama from like 5+ years ago) in a negative light? probably a vendetta

>> No.10574645

>>10574633
yeah but you wouldn’t know it was the same person doing it if it was at different times, right?

>> No.10574647

>>10574633
Isn’t a-logging a term used by chris-chan wkers?

>> No.10574649

>>10574563
nitpicking the face/body (not make-up/fit) of someone whose coords are clearly very popular (i.e. candy, fannie), posting a meh but not ita coord to the ita thread along with a description of unrelated things (i.e. she posts pics of her ugly bf to insta, her plushie collection isn't aestethic, her apartment looks small, she's allegedly "rude" but no actual milk), or posting the same old ita pic of a legitimate ita even though it's stale

>> No.10574664

>>10574645
You van generally tell who is who by the way they type, even when they try to hide it.

>> No.10574674

>>10574408
>>10574409
Does baby usually do an in-store preorder period first?

>> No.10574752

>>10574645
i mean it's usually pretty obvious, especially if they make the same complaints/use the same insults every time. gulls aren't that slick

>> No.10574767

>>10574674
For pretty much every release, yes. They do a pre-order in store and then the general online reservation a week or two later. Special colorways may be storw only though!

>> No.10574825

Any anons know if the official measurements for Gathered Chiffon are accurate? How does it fit? Kinda want to buy one.

>> No.10574844

>>10574021
kek. The black one is up to 25,000 now.

>> No.10574845

>>10574825
sorry to say it won't fit your cowtits

>> No.10574847

>>10574283
Look at Lor front and center. AGPs are the worst.

>> No.10574849

>>10574428
How the fuck is it okay for this scrote to use Lor as a profile pic? Tyler needs to do a video and terf the fuck out on this moid.

>> No.10574857

Fuck anons help me. I bid on an item on LM but now I don't want it anymore, what do?

>> No.10574859

>>10574849
Sissies have been doing that forever. I fucking can’t stand it. I remember there were some sissy accounts on tumblr wayback in the day, that used a bunch of lolita’s pictures, without permission, with made up captions about them being boys forced to dress as girls. No amount of reporting to tumblr ever got them removed either. Disgusting.

>> No.10574872

>>10574849
Because Lor would assume they don't mean it and worry if she uses the right pronouns for them. Then she would get mad at Tyler.

>> No.10574873

>>10574857
Hope you get outbid, try to resell it, give it away if it's cheap?

>> No.10574900

>>10574857
Message the seller. Maybe they'll be forgiving? This happened to someone on my auction, but they were outbid in the end. Sometimes a bid convinces someone else to bid as well.

>> No.10574907

>>10574298
>>10574331
Sounds about male

>> No.10574910

>>10574873
Yeah I might have to resell it. Luckily they're just socks just like got drunk and started bidding on shit lol

>>10574900
That's a good idea! I'll let the seller know maybe in the end someone will outbid and I don't have to worry about it but if not I can at least let them know. Thanks anon.

>> No.10574911

>>10574428
Lmao the sissy's description isn't wrong though

>> No.10574915

>>10574910
>inb4 dreamy pony socks

>> No.10574924

>>10574872
Then Lor deserves to get lumped in with the perverts, disgusting handmaiden.

>> No.10574927

>>10574924
Are you just saying this because she has an unfortunate face or do you have an actual criticism? Is there anyone in this community who actually deserves to have their photo used like this? No matter who the victim is it seems pretty shitty

>> No.10574947

>>10574927
It's nothing to do with her face, I'm saying that if she's going to side with degenerates in favor of someone who has her back, she deserves the degenerates.

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>>10574915
Nope, thankfully I'm not into sweet haha. I feel bad for sweet-chans, the market is not in their favor. I don't think the prices will ever fall.

>> No.10574995

>>10574297
>Bob and Jimmy

>> No.10575016

What are the best second hand sites currently? I mostly check fril, mercari and Lacemarket, but I feel like I‘m missing out on good deals elsewhere.

>> No.10575021
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10575021

It's kinda sad when you're product is so weak that in a fashion full of delicate stuff where people are used to have to handle things carefully you still need to warn people your products breaks easily.

Makes me feel like they where too cheap to find a better way to make it sturdy that doesn't need a warning 2,5 times the size of the description. I'm guessing the "tin alloy" is a mixture of cheap metals honestly. For 4200 yen you would think they could afford stronger metal.

I already heard MMM quality dropped after Wunderwelts topcompany took over, but this is just sad.

>> No.10575041

>>10575021
Yeah just skip this. I bought the Candelabra charm few years ago and it broke already. Not daily use and it was stored away for like a year. It bended from just hanging from my neck and when I bended it back it snapped. It's ridiculously soft. I'm so disappointed and annoyed because it's such a simple design and cost something over 30€, too much to get like 10 wears out of it. However, it would be a nice design for casual wear. I don't think I'm returning for new Moitie, the socks I bought at the same time were really cheap looking too.

>> No.10575069

>>10575041
I want to keep supporting mmm but not when their last couple ops use the same exact pattern/fit save for some details.

>> No.10575106

>>10574859
In my report to Flickr, I mentioned that many of the people in his photos are underage. I hope they would take child porn seriously. Since he's posting actual pics with dicks in them also, it's not hard to see it's a fetish. They still haven't taken action so we'll see.

>> No.10575251

>>10575106
I just reported it too.

>> No.10575261

>>10574408
Anon-chans help! I really, really want two items from this release but I've never done a Japanese-only lottery before. I emailed Tenshi and used a Tenso address to fill out the form, but am I missing anything else?

How high a chance do we have that Baby will sell this from their website/online store??

sincerely,desperate anon

>> No.10575264

>>10575261
>>10574142

>>10575069
Yeah I've been really bored by all the dresses they've put out for a while. They haven't even rereleased anything I'm really into.

>> No.10575312

>>10574825
>>10574845
More like the official measurements for Gathered Chiffon change a lot between different releases anywhere from 82 cm to 92 cm bust according to Lolibrary, and for a non-shirred dress, I'd really like it to be fitted and not fit weird. Kind of like how the Elizabeth OP measurements changed over the years but the fit of the dress itself hasn't afaik?

I have 88 cm Baby JSKs that are actually bigger than 92 cm Baby JSKs, so I don't know whether you can trust the official measurements.

>> No.10575325

>>10575021
To be honest I have older Moitie jewellery which also bends easily and looks thin and cheapish. Tin is a very soft material to begin with. I have Alchemy Gothic jewellery made out of that which tends to bend and break like in this description and to be fair it's not only 30€ for some pieces. Better Moitie is open up front about the material and spoon feed stupid noobs before they start crying their precious jewellery broke. Just be careful with your shit but still accidents can happen.

While I too think that Moitie has serious quality issues, I don't agree with that it's WW's fault. Moitie had issues a way before WW took over.

>> No.10575333

Gulls each go leave a comment on each of this weeks secrets just posted challenge. Help us fuel the old BTB revival, bring back the golden times <3

>> No.10575368

>>10575021
The Candelabra charms have always been terrible quality. Even the old ones bend and break easily. Must say MmM charms have never been that great. I have an old cross bracelet and the cross charm broke instantly. It felt fragile and cheap to begin with and never survived its first wear. Luckily it is still cute without the cross.

>> No.10575374

>>10574408
crying and hoping I managed to get an SS in time

>> No.10575411

>>10575374
same

>> No.10575415

>>10575374
I thought you didn’t need an SS for BTSSB?

>> No.10575438

>>10575415
Obvs , fuckface?????

>> No.10575444

>>10575415
For normal releases, but this is exclusive store only + lottery release so there's no chance for anyone not physically there at the moment

>> No.10575451

>>10573152
>Chocolate icing stained my dress an hour before I got drenched in blue blood and a pinch of magic. When we stood to leave, I saw the blob and shrieked. Every head in the fancy Italian restaurant spun to gawk at me as I ran for the back with my best friend close behind. Distraction gripped me. That’s why I’d dropped birthday cake on the cream-colored skirt of my favorite dress. And I had no trouble blaming the creepy old woman for my mistake.
Jesus Christ

>> No.10575465

>>10575444
Are you sure? I know that there's 2 store-only colours, but Baby always does early store lottery releases for things that eventually go for online reservation. Even Elizabeth with its insane popularity came to the webstore reservation.

>> No.10575469

I haven’t found any scans of the spring AP catalog. Anyone else?

>> No.10575484
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>>10572911
i wouldn’t wear lolita to a wedding BUT
>me thinking about losing weight for a wedding
>me thinking about losing weight to fit old ap better

>> No.10575499
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10575499

What do you guys think about the new Alice and the pirates x McDonald's collaboration

>> No.10575505

>>10575499
Needs a nice OTT hat.

>> No.10575507

>>10575499
hamburgler would have been more on-brand

>> No.10575516

>>10575499
I thought that was a joke. Are you for real???

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>>10575499
I hope they sell the shoes too

>> No.10575532

>>10574406
These are pretty, but I actually like the standard colorways better? Usually I'm a slut for limited colorways but these aren't doing it for me.

>> No.10575541

>>10573152
>>10575451
>I’m Julie, a 19-year-old autistic & demisexual book blogger, ailurophile
>And I’m Mary, an 18-year-old biromantic asexual bookworm with ADD
>My doll-like appearance facilitated my ultimate goal. I wanted to keep the world at bay to shield my porcelain heart from more pain, loss, and grief.
>My biceps retained the firmness of room temperature cream cheese when I flexed, but overconfidence told me I could stab someone with it if I ran into trouble on my way home.
>The two giggled as they took uncoordinated steps and plucked medical tubing from weeping orifices on their chests, arms, and legs.
>“Hugo, you’re so strong.” His thick, heavy voice rumbled like a troll’s. “So strong now. Such big gains.”
>As far as I could tell through puffy lids, my pastel pink home looked the same as when I’d left: Perfectly adorable. But not me. I didn’t.I was covered in gore.

Almost foam adventure-level cringe here holy shit.

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>>10575541
>>The two giggled as they took uncoordinated steps and plucked medical tubing from weeping orifices on their chests, arms, and legs.

>> No.10575556

>>10575333
Shut the fuck up

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>>10575516
It's fake

>> No.10575559
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10575559

AATP - POSTMAN ~Letters Guide Destiny and A Plot~
>https://twitter.com/BABY_THE_STARS/status/1370188643860553729
>https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/987/

>> No.10575560

>>10575559
Train Conductor-kei

>> No.10575566

>>10575558
This entire board has down syndrom

>> No.10575571

>>10575559
Omg that’s so cute. I’d buy it if I weren’t saving my money for Jelly Candy Toys

>> No.10575621

>>10575541
Okay. That's worse than Twilight. Which is something of an accomplishment.

>> No.10575631

>>10575559
I wonder if now that the election is over lolitas will stop being all "support the post office" now that they've gone back to losing a good 3% our secondhand burando, or if this will spark a resurgence in appreciation for postal services and the aesthetic since they basically bring lolitas one of their few sources of joy.

>> No.10575634

>>10575541
I thought you were joking. Nope. Actual excerpts

>> No.10575635

>>10575559
I eat sleep and breath postal motifs but that letter appliqué is not working for me at all. Otherwise I’d buy

>> No.10575643

>>10574187
no, the mods just take years to approve. i suggest lurking so they don't power trip on you whenever you get in.

>> No.10575661

>>10575541
This disgusting gore is supposed to be YA?
Anyway, why are you paying into this autist’s pocket by buying and reading her trash book?

>> No.10575663

>>10575559
This is friggin adorable. I wonder if aatp was inspired by the western comm’s post themed coord trend.

>> No.10575705

>>10575516
>>10575558
Jesus seagulls are so dumb

>>10575559
I would love this JSK without the ugly applique

>> No.10575730

>>10575661
Someone posted a link to the free excerpt upthread, nobody is buying this

>> No.10575801
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10575801

>>10575559
It's a pocket

>> No.10575811

Has anyone got their Enchantilly Lucky Pack yet?

>> No.10575820

>>10575801
So cute

>> No.10575885

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/kawaii/20210312/2025139/?cid=wohk-fb-org_site_ki_fky-202103-001

It's so sad NKH thinks a cow like Kelly Eden is the best guest they could get to represent "the future of kawaii".

>> No.10575886

>>10575885
They've done the contest so many times, and probably it's hard to find non Asians that aren't lolita and look good with a large following. A girl I follow does super cute decora rainbow style and even had her shirt design win an ACDCrag Harajuku design contest but I don't know if she'd ever win a kawaii.i contest cause she's Asian (Filipino) and has a much smaller YT and ig following than Pixielocks or Kelly Eden did.

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10575888

Complete non-issue in the great scheme of things but as someone who's been into EGL for 7+ years doesn't the dilution of 'dream dress' from 'one or two items you would buy on sight, no questions' into 'dress I like, I guess' feel bad man?

>t. the post in a recent thread saying "I'm thinking of making CDC my DD". I know it's not important enough to take up space in a human brain but that's super not what a DD is.

>> No.10575901

>>10575888
Yeah

>> No.10575914

>>10575888
yeahh, I've already got basically every true dream dress, and the ones I never ended up getting aren't dresses that I feel like I'd buy on site anymore

>> No.10576177

>>10575888
>>10575914

I thought I was done with hunting dream dresses, there was one I didn't get, and when I finally had the chance to buy it I just sat there looking at it thinking "meh, I don't really want this anymore".

Then AP dropped DDC and suddenly I had a DD again.

(In case you think I'm exaggerating about a brand new release being a sudden DD. I got two SS to get different colourways for me, set alarms for myself to storm the webshop and actually did get something because I spent the entire weekend refreshing the page long after everyone else gave up (I couldn't sleep anyway. The release ate my brain) Then also bought some other stuff in the MTO (mainly wristcufs and accessories that I was too slow with). DDC was a very serious crush for me, even if it was just a new release).

So, eh. Life has its ups and downs, including dream dresses, I suppose.

>> No.10576183

>>10575705
Excuse you, the applique is a functional pocket and it's cute as hell.

>> No.10576184

>>10575661
Excerpt is free on the site linked above. I'm not buying that autistic trash. I get enough autistic trash on 4chan.

>> No.10576190

>>10573920
I ordered with Muuh and it arrived last week via Yamato. FYI I have the original release apron skirt in ivory and this time got the OP as MTO and quality is almost identical but new is slightly more white in both cotton print and lace. That or my older one has aged in color.

>> No.10576233

>>10575465
I did say "at the moment"

>> No.10576251

>>10576177
Ofc a dress can become a DD on sight, it's not so much whether the piece is new or old (although people posting WTBs for their DD when it's something that came out so recently it's still in the online shops is kind of not the spirit of the thing). When you fell in love with DDC you immediately dropped everything to get it, right? That's the DD aspect of it, if someone calls all her WTBs 'dream dresses' it just seems like she hasn't actually found a piece she likes that much yet.

>inb4 "I don't buy DDs on sight bc I can't afford them" - not relevant, specifically talking about people with "dream dresses" they make no attempt to purchase or save for or differentiate from the rest of their WTBs

>> No.10576269

>>10576190
Hmm maybe I should contact Tenshi. Or maybe she is waiting for all the orders to be ready for pickup since she has to travel to Tokyo.

>> No.10576272

>>10576251

ayrt and totally agreed. Mainly put in the paragraph to differentiate it from the other flakers you just described. The DD thread always seems to have some girls who can't seem to differentiate between their shopping list and actual obsession.

>> No.10576281

>>10575888
Yeah. But I'm also/especially sad at newfags fawning over super common (often just badly designed) bodyline calling it their dream dress acting sad they don't have it. Like it cost 30 bucks, go get it if you love it so much.

>> No.10576389
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This is a sad looking usakumya

>> No.10576390

>>10576389
>the tag still attached
jeez

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How are the sizing on these? I'm a US 6 with a high arch. And how about the quality?

>> No.10576763

>>10574563
Vendeta
a prolonged bitter quarrel with or campaign against someone.
In the context of cgl, basically means you have a personal issue with someone and post them in the ita thread because you wana see anonymous meanies tear them a new one.

>> No.10576877

>>10574283
Eyyy he got deleted. That's a win

>> No.10576920

>>10574849
Tyler actually needs to shut the fuck up forever

>> No.10576923

>>10576728
I'm 24.0cm and the L fits perfectly on me. I can't really help you with the arch fit though.
Quality is good, I've worn them and hit then against stair treads a few times, and the marks rubbed off. I haven't had any issues with straps or peeling so far and I've had them for 3 years or so in a cold climate.

>> No.10576930

>>10576920
This. I never followed her so idk if she's still posting shit flinging vids since no drama has come up but nothing she has to say adds anything helpful or of value to a conversation these days.

>> No.10576931

>>10576920
agreed. i laugh when people say things like "i'm telling tyler" "tyler should make a video" etc. because she's such a pussy irl. literally clings to the wall at meets and refuses to interact with anyone, mediocre coords, shitty makeup, gross hair--which would be fine if she were just a normal person who didn't present herself as an internet badass.

>> No.10576990

>>10576931
Is she really a beta cuck? Maybe that's why she had such a bad experience in Toronto. She was just unable to be straightforward with that creepy dude, set boundaries, and tell him GTFO.

>> No.10576996

>>10576990
yes. she has an easier time at large events because people invite her to their table and hang all over her (think people like k8), but at smaller local ones she just shrinks away.

>> No.10576998

>>10576990
That still isn't her fault and no one deserves that.

But her being a fake hardass on the internet just to rehash old bullshit and rile her followers up is still annoying.

>> No.10577000

>>10576990
What do you expect from a liberal white woman?

>> No.10577004

>>10576996

In general I always felt that the atmosphere over glorifying people like Lor, Tyler, k8, and co was a bit weird and toxic. Like maybe part of it is jealousy but it's super weird to be fawning all over these people like they're something bigger than life when they just make videos I guess. It goes the other way too with hate, I'll acknowledge that, but there must be a way to appreciate content creators without going full on crazy fangirl. It clearly gets to their heads and causes shit like this.

>> No.10577005

>>10576931
anon if you’ve been in the Dallas comm please make a secret about Tyler everyone on btb fucking asslicks her

>> No.10577017

>>10577005

I feel like most Dallas comm members besides Tyler just mind their fucking business and wear the fashion and don't care about drama.

>> No.10577272

>>10576990
I thought that happened in Gatineau not Toronto? What happened in toronto?

>> No.10577273

>>10577017
basically this, plus it's not worth making a secret as if it would change anyone's mind lol.

any Dallas gulls remember the new years meet a year or two ago? there was a coord contest with some kind of prize. tyler won even though she had on a super basic coord because she was the only one whose name everyone knew (you had to write your vote). not her fault, just funny and also kind of unfortunate

>inb4 ur jelly u didn't win
i was also basic af, but there were two girls i can remember off the top of my head whose coordinates were extraordinary and actually deserved it

>> No.10577288

>>10577273

Contest winning coords in general are always so bizarre though. Maybe it speaks to the general diversity of opinions in general but it's always a divisive topic? Like it either always gotta be plain, gimmicky, or completely woke (and kind of ita). I have never found a winning coord I like, and maybe it is out of jealousy but I can always think of several coords I liked better (that are not mine ofc)

>> No.10577289

>>10576990
>victim blaming

most embarrassing behavior

>> No.10577299

>>10574408
I really hope the black one makes it to the online store, I will offer a blood sacrifice if I can get my hands on it

>> No.10577300
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Da faq, Rufflechat?

>> No.10577302

>>10577300
I came here to post this. wtf is wrong with people? this is just begging to start drama.

>> No.10577304

>>10577300
i like how she seems to be treating people pretty negatively for not fitting into personal standards.

>> No.10577309

>>10577300
Fuck you, thin lolitas, I hope you die. How do you plan on begging for forgiveness for your body this week? On your knees probably, which I hate you for because they are the widest part of your skinny little stick legs. Now hand over all your brand that doesn't fit my fabulous GNC body, it doesn't belong to you anymore! I plan on turning all of your brand offerings into one massive mumu.
>infinifat communism.

>> No.10577310

>>10577300
Ah now it’s escalated to WHITE, thin, cis lolitas. Cooooool.

>> No.10577318

>>10577310
won't someone please think of the poor whites

>> No.10577319

>>10577300
this is why i dont interact with the lolita community

>> No.10577322

>>10577300
The real tea is the only trans lolitas that get shit on outside of CGL’s baiting are entitled assholes. Not because they’re fat or trans. But because they have shitty attitudes and they’d get the same treatment even if they were thin white and cis.

>> No.10577325

>>10577310
Bitch is racist too? BAN her.

>> No.10577326

>>10577310
What about the comment where they don’t want to call something not lolita because normal lolita might be dysphoric for them? Then don’t wear lolita, retard.

>> No.10577327

>>10577310
Since when is WHITE related to jfashion? It's an ASIAN fashion. She's fucking racist.

>> No.10577328

>>10577300
When I see it I join in

>> No.10577329

Why not post these comments on the thread if you're worried about the cis white girls in the fashion?

>> No.10577336

>>10577300
That entire thread is turning into woke olympics.

>> No.10577337

>>10577322
RC and COF are full of asspats. Where are they seeing these problems? Are they dumb enough to misconstrue sissy hate as transphobic? Have they ever actually interacted with their local comm? OP sounds like they only larp on cgl

>> No.10577340

>>10577337
The real question is when are the SJW’s going to start calling out fetishists in the community.

>> No.10577341

>>10577340
can't do that, it's kink shaming uwu.

>> No.10577346

>>10577300
At least this thread is an excellent reminder of who deserves to be avoided and generally ignored, both in person and online.

>> No.10577348

>>10577300
If you look at the profiles of these people commenting, they almost all the suuuuuper uncomfy gender special types. I don't even think half of them wear lolita.

>> No.10577358

>>10577340
Interesting enough this conversation was probably spawned by a fetishisist?
Fetishist who has posted kink/DDLG stuff tagged as lolita in the past (now claims it wasn't tagged as that, but as far as I remember, it was) posted "no concrit" on COF the other day. Someone "innocently" asked why they said no concrit. They went on a rant about how in the past they've been treated poorly for being a trans drag queen who has a kink account and used to be into DDLG. Blahblah transphobia, blah blah fatphobia. Today, someone else posts this in Rufflechat. The wording is obvious enough that it seems directly pointed at the other person's COF posts.

I really don't think its a coincidence. People weren't being trans/fatphobic. They were calling out a fetishist being gross for """"joking""" about DDLG shit.

>> No.10577369

>>10577327
wokesters pretty much don't count asians as poc anymore for whatever reason

>> No.10577371

>>10577358
GASB

>> No.10577373

>>10577369
Lol they got so woke they turned right back around, slapped their own ass, and turned racist again. They need to stop projecting on the lolita community as a whole bc we have more pressing issues like pedos and minors being exposed to people’s kinks unashamedly. Bet they don’t even have an irl comm so they don’t know shit what anything is like as a trans POC in lolita. I get treated the same as everyone else!!

>> No.10577378

>>10577327
In the west, white lolitas end up as the majority. That’s probably why they pointed it out

>> No.10577380

>>10577369

I remember a thread when Asians tried to explain that size inclusivity doesn't exist in their countries and the woke crowd went reeeeee like wtf do you want? To change entire countries to be more like America? Since they say Japanese brands are fatphobic and shit why don't they stick to indie or taobao? And the hatred is directed specifically at AP for some reason.

>> No.10577385

>>10577348
Them not wearing lolita is a valid criticism of them commenting on the community, but the fact that whenever nb lolitas come up they get referred to in a negative light isn’t a good look. Obviously it’s mostly on cgl but it must suck to be a nb lolita who makes good coords and worry about being posted and trashed by any rando on 4chan, many of whom also don’t wear the fashion.

>> No.10577386

>>10577336
Yep. I don't even disagree with the sentiment but fuck do you want me to do? I just go here bitch.

>> No.10577392

>>10577385
Nonbinary isn’t a real thing, it’s just the woque new way to say “I’m not like the other girls!” And men who claim to be nonbinary are either testing the waters before coming out as MTF - or they’re trying to score woke girl pussy.

>> No.10577406

>>10577300
Trans people should just get the fuck out of lolita. We're not here to cater to sissies and their fetishes and trans men should logically have dysphoria in blatantly female clothes. If you don't have dysphoria you're just a woman trying to be a special snowflake.

>> No.10577420

>>10577392
>>10577406
whatever you say man

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>>10577392
>>10577406

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>>10577420
>>10577427

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>>10577438
Nayrt but...

>> No.10577506

>>10577392
Nonbinary makes no fucking sense and it's not an excuse for people to dress badly

>> No.10577514

>>10576923
Thank you! They come in cm sizes, but it sounds like they run true to size? Good to know about the quality!

>> No.10577519

>>10577310
I wish people would start getting cancelled for blanket-hating caucasian people. By all definitions, it's also racism, even if they don't want to believe it.

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>>10577519
Well, it's easy enough to identify who is racist in these threads atleast.

Anyone local to this girl AND white might want to watch out for her smearing shit on your dress at a meet, just for being white.

She REALLY wants you to know she hates white people.

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>>10577521
Imagine looking like this and thinking it's remotely lolita.

Looks like an ITA screaming alright

"I want clout for being a SPECIAL RACIST"

>> No.10577526

>>10577523
Itas always talk the most shit

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>>10577523
lmfao

what a train wreck

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>>10577523
Damn

Is that a pencil skirt? Does she think this is lolita? LOL

>> No.10577532

>>10577521
People who talk like this on facebook usually aren't people who actually go out in public and fight for the rights they claim to defend anyway. They're keyboard warriors parroting lines they read on twitter, complete with emojis. Ignore them. They don't even speak for actual activists.

>> No.10577534

>>10577532
I get your point, but isolating a whole race is racist. It's not a "ignore them." No.

Actively commenting nasty comments about people in general that they don't know is racist.

That's ALL racist behavior. If you're fighting with activist groups, then you need to start isolating people within those groups who are actively acting like racists.

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>>10577523
It's people like this that make me happy I can afford and fit into brand.

>> No.10577536

>>10577523
Complete with Melanie Martinez hair

>> No.10577537

>>10577535
They made a whole ass server to feel important and have power over something regarding lolita.

Imagine. They look like shit. They just want to feel special for nothing.

>> No.10577540

>>10577288
My comm only had a coord contest once in the several years I’ve been in it. It was my first meet and I wrote the name of the only girl whose name I knew, I didn’t really think she had the best coord or anything. Even funnier she must have moved or quit lolita because I never saw her again.

>> No.10577541 [DELETED] 

>>10575886
I thought the last winner of a kawaii.i contest was Filipino?
Even though that kei club dumpster fire tried to get that black cow leader of theirs the win. Apparently if you were thin you and white you should be ignored based on that alone according to that hive mind.....

>> No.10577543

>>10577322
THIS SO MUCH
I was trying to comment that towards scary baby when comments got turned off because a mod has to babysit the thread and properly censor the thin cis white girl predators

>> No.10577544

>>10577523
must be sad having such an ugly personality and an ugly face

>> No.10577545

>>10577544
>>ugly personality and an ugly face
gotta try to feel special somehow.
Snowflake racist fits the bill.

>> No.10577546

>>10577358
You will also note that when sexy baby starts his victim mental olympics he always leaves out any of this as the actual reason people don't like it. it's always because of his long list of acronyms and bad life choices is why he is victimized by the community.

Never forget if we mere peasants understood old school we would all bow down at the blessed angel of perfection sexy baby is and how great his co*de skills are.

>> No.10577549

>>10577546
AYRT. Right? I said that before sexy baby showed up in the thread, but then they ended up commenting and omitting the important information. It wasnt' about being fat and trans, or even a kinkster. It was about how utterly disgusting those """"joke""" posts were?

>> No.10577552

>>10577546
>>10577549
Any screencaps?

>> No.10577557

>>10577552
>Go to grab cap
>Blessed angel sexy baby has blocked me
;c

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>>10577552
>>10577557
Here you are, my sexy babies UwU

>> No.10577564

>>10577563
Forgot to note, I especially love the second one given the backstory.
>You need to make people afraid of the consequences of their actions
>You see it, you call it out, you tell them what they did wrong, and if they double down, you make them feel bad about it

Yeah? Like calling someone out for posting weird kink shit in association with their lolita accounts?

>> No.10577566

>>10577563
Haha I am one of those *~*famoose*~* GASB commenters. Can't wait for juicy BtB this week.

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>>10577563
Someone feel free to put these on the farm if they are worth it

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>> No.10577577

>>10577570
Sexy baby is so obsessed with getting attention. I want to say I saw it on their last CoF post and they said my need for companionship and attention outweighs something else. If someone can find the cap much love.
Sexy baby needs some therapy to work on that self worth.

>> No.10577584

>>10577568
>comparing lolita fashion to the book
oh here we go

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>>10577577
Another great anon had the cap I was looking for

>> No.10577620

>>10577566
This might finally be the thing that convinces me to return to BtB. I’ve seen a lot of talk about it here between you gulls in the past few weeks and I REALLY wanna see how it gets shitted up after this Rufflechat chaos

>> No.10577636

>>10577591
>my need for attention outweigh
Most cluster B personality disorder behavior. Just block it and move on, gulls. The idiots giving it attention only have themselves to blame when it inevitably sucks them dry and turns on them.

>> No.10577637

>>10577521
>y'all y'all y'all
do burgers really?

>> No.10577640

>>10577300
Never feel bad for treating mentally ill kinksters, as garbage, gulls. If you give them an inch they bite off your whole arm and you might end up dead in a ditch, or only beat around the face with a bloody dilator if you're lucky.

Do not cater to the unhinged feefees of adult men who're probably bigger and stronger than you, especially if they claim they uwu are a little owo girl deep on the inside, in diapers no less. No quarter.

>> No.10577652

>>10577300
I mean, I don't care. Lolita isn't for everyone, big deal. What is he going to do about me not calling it out? Fatty gonna cry? Tranny gonna throw a fit?

>> No.10577812

>>10577532
As someone actually active in my local lgbt community these discussions are just for privileged people complain about dumb crap. The average trans person I meet trying to exist without being called slurs does not care about some weird kinkster being told gasb for being gross in a niche Japanese fashion. All posts like this do is create an echo chamber of the same talking points that do nothing for actual marginalized groups.

>>10577534
Grow some balls.

>> No.10577881

>>10577514
You're right, somehow I thought it had standard sizing. My feet measure 24.0 cm and I have the 24cm pair for reference. Glad I could help!

>> No.10577905

>>10577521
The RC thread wasn’t even about race. If trans people hijacked a thread about black people to talk about their issues, it would be frowned upon. But somehow this is okay?

>> No.10577910

>>10577591
does anyone here know what diaper baby's actual sex is? i've heard conflicting things and i need to know if they're a man or a woman

>> No.10577989

>>10577910
He’s a dude.

>> No.10578112

Just a random rambling on the subject

Lolita fashion communities do have some traces of racism, homofobia and any other prejudices that you might think of because it isn't deatached to the racist, homofobic, prejudiced world we live in. This is such a simple concept that people fail to understand, and this is also what makes those opression structural and not simply one individual being mean to another because whatever.

Anyway, it is less oppressive than your average whatever normie community, same as almost any other alternative space, and this is good. It's one of the places I feel confortable talking about being bissexual and wouldn't really expect anyone to give me shit because of it.

I understand advocating for your rights and for lolita spaces to be even less bigoted than they already are, but I really don't get it when people are talking about "blatant racism and transphobia inside the comunity", there are never real exemples or discussion about it either. Yes, it happens here on cgl, but this is 4chan, no one should be taking this site seriously and the fact that people are scared enough that they only show bigotry in anonimous spaces isn't exactly what the accountability discourse is about? People being afraid of being assholes?

Also, why is Tyler being considered some kind of demon right now? I saw the video, I don't believe she addressed the subject with the seriousness it deserved and was angry about her total disregard for Lor's wishes, but blatant racism? Enough that people want her to be completely erradicated from all lolita spaces? Did I miss something?

>> No.10578115

>>10578112
Also, I'm tired of the stance people take on those discussions, I get it to some extent, I also have my own oppressions to deal with and I know it hurts and can get emotional sometimes. But it brings no good to act as if everyone was there to get you on a space that is offering dialogue and acceptance. Also, we really need to stop talking about what not to do and start talking about what to do, not simply "stand up" or "taking accountability" we need practical actions.

The fact I'm scared of commenting any of this that could actually create dialogue and solutions on the actual post instead of this shit hole that will have annonymous whinners complaining about SJW or that this is too long is proof that something went wrong.

>> No.10578174

>>10578115
I wish you'd post this in the RC group because damn, it needs to be said. I understand why you wouldn't though.

>> No.10578255

>>10578112
you're missing that LWLN and Lor's lolita blog styles are successful and black itas really want to replace Tyler and Lor.

Lor is wiling to suck off anyone to keep her spot as a blogger but Tyler interfered by publicly recognizing the Lor apology situation as an abuse tactic, rather than let her deep throat the boot.

If you've ever been in an abusive relationship or had a friend in one you KNOW that pulling a friend out or making them recognize its unsafe is very dangerous for your friendship.

They may deny, downplay etc. the mind games and overblown mistakes or transgressions but that is part of how the victim deals with the toxicity. You never want your friend to tell your parents or siblings that you are actually beaten by your bf because abuse is shameful no one wants to admit they are a victim.

Most of all the abuser and their bystanders will be most angry because you interfered with the victim losing sense of when things go too far, and are trying to get the victim help/out of the situation.

>Take accountability
Take down your channel, but first promote my channel on yours, and let me make content that you did for years... and umm? Just let me copy it exactly! Or else I will call it racism/erasure/whatever

>> No.10578335

>>10577910
It's a degenerate scrote.

>> No.10578388

>>10578255
I wanted to know Rose Nocturnalia thoughts on the matter, she seems to be reasonable and I like her content way more than Lor's or Tyler's, but she probably also knows better than to put herself out there for an angry mob to get her.

Since she's thin and light skinned some might use it to make a point that she isn't "oppressed enough" if she disagrees with them, even if she obviously has suffered with racism during her life.

>> No.10578966

The mods left the dumpster fire on RC unlocked for another round

>> No.10579299

>>10578966
Did it get deleted?

>> No.10579318

>>10578388
Thought she said she kinda stays away from online comms (smart girl)

>> No.10579320

>>10579299
Looks like it yeah dam did anyone get any last min caps pointing to why the op would have rage deleted when we all didn't bow down to her?

>> No.10579322

Looks like this thread is in auto-sage names for next one?

>> No.10579465

>>10579322
easter edition?

>> No.10580776

new thread >>10580285