Stupid J-fashion Questions

[Anonymous No.10691181]

Old thread >>10684855

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[Anonymous No.10691187]

Are you supposed to wear bloomers along with your normal underwear? I do, but I've always wondered if it's normal to go with or without.

[Anonymous No.10691199]

Should you also always wash cloth headwear / hair accessories that you buy secondhand? (E.g. maxipads, bonnets)

I always do, except for headbows cause of the wiring ..although now I'm wondering if I should wash those too.

[Anonymous No.10691226]

This probably qualifies as a dumb question- is EGL wall of shame even active anymore? I left because of the shit moderators (notably S and A) and I haven't really heard any recent drama cause by the group. Was there a mass exodus or something?

[Anonymous No.10691227]

>>10691187
Unless you're a gross weirdo, yes. At least I'd never wear bloomers instead of my usual underwear, if that's what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.10691251]

>>10691187
Yes. Lolita bloomers generally don't have a gusset like actual underwear, so they are unsuitable to use as undergarments alone.

[Anonymous No.10691254]

>>10691181
As for >>10686664 I’d say maybe LaModa? Heard fairly good things about them and their styles seem pretty versatile, could be worth a try?

[Anonymous No.10691280]

>>10685036
Nololita does some occassionally.

[Anonymous No.10691283]

>>10691187
why would you want shit marks on your white bloomers

[Anonymous No.10691284]

>>10691283
Nayrt but do you normally get shit marks on your underwear??? Discharge I can understand being an unavoidable and gross issue, but shit???

[Anonymous No.10691294]

>>10691283
scrote detected

[Anonymous No.10691295]

>>10691294
or too fat to wipe their own ass

[Anonymous No.10691299]

>>10691295
probably both.

[Anonymous No.10691371]

What's the consensus on devilinspired?

[Anonymous No.10691372]

Who is she?

[Anonymous No.10691375]

>>10691371
Fine but overpriced. It's a good catalogue to search stuff up on taobao.

[Anonymous No.10691376]

>>10691371
they're not a scam, but they're very overpriced and the customer service is bad.
You can use their convenient interface to find pieces you want, and then use google image search to find them elsewhere to buy.

[Anonymous No.10691383]

>>10691371
What >>10691376 said, if you're going to buy those items regardless just use the site as a catalogue. If you find something you like it's way cheaper to use google image search to find the taobao page and buy straight from the seller. The devilinspired price hike is just the stupid people tax meant to filter people.

[Anonymous No.10691385]

>>10691372
That is Emi Arisaka, she makes amazing music

[Anonymous No.10691392]

Is there anywhere on taobao to get really cool/elaborate sweet tights? Early 2010s AP vibes. There's cool gothic shops, like yidhra, I want similar quality/cool designs but sweet.

[Anonymous No.10691393]

>>10691385
Thank you, anon!

[Anonymous No.10691395]

>>10691392
rojiroji and sheep puff

[Anonymous No.10691406]

>>10691392
red maria

[Anonymous No.10691431]

is it horrible for me as a newlita to start out with taobao to start building up a wardrobe/understand basic coording, or should i just save up for AP and other burando and have less of a wardrobe?

[Anonymous No.10691433]

>>10691431
When I first started, my main pieces were taobao, and they were "whatever." Once I got my first AP dress it blew my mind. I'd say make a small brand capsule wardrobe. If you end up not liking/not fitting them or your tastes change, you'll have a much easier time selling them also.

[Anonymous No.10691436]

>>10691431
It’s better to have 1 good coord that you can wear instead of a big wardrobe of crap that you’ll end up throwing out eventually, because it’s crap.
You won’t be able to tell what is decent taobao and you’ll look horrible or end up getting ripped off if you don’t know how to use taobao. And don’t buy from taobao resellers, because it ends up being the same price as secondhand brand, and you will get ripped off and/or wait 8 months to receive stuff.
Secondhand brand is cheap and you can basically resell it for what you paid for, if you end up not liking it.

[Anonymous No.10691439]

>>10691431
I’d say buy what you actually like instead of trying to fill your wardrobe quickly with mediocre items. Accessories and shoes from taobao are fine imo if chosen thoughtfully. But if you own brand you really see the difference and it’s hard to settle for less after that. Even taobao costs add up after SS and shipping fees. If you’re smart about hunting secondhand sites you can actually get brand affordably.

[Anonymous No.10691440]

>>10691431
I'd start out with a few brand pieces and use taobao for your accessories, blouses, shoes etc. There's a lot of shit taobao main pieces out there and sometimes it's hard for newbies to find the good stuff. I started with a tiny wardrobe and I still love the burando newlita me picked out but I kind of regret all the taobao I bought because it seems so cheap/ugly in comparison.

[Anonymous No.10691446]

anons who own a hoop skirt & a petti, which one is comfier/do you prefer?

[Anonymous No.10691447]

How much does a full coord usually cost you gulls? If you had to average.

[Anonymous No.10691450]

>>10691447
Roughly $700-$800

[Anonymous No.10691452]

>>10691431
I think it depends on your fashion 'skills'. (ex; do you have a lot of practice buying clothes online, and evaluating how those pieces will fit YOU based on model pics and listed measurements? do you already participate in some other alt fashion or j-fash? how well can you judge quality of construction and materials looking at shooped taobao stock pics? etc. etc.)

I bought a lot of taobao and western indie basics when I first started out, with the plan that I would invest in brand pieces later. But it wound up being mostly junk. I don't regret wasting the money bc I learned a lot from it, but it was a major waste that not everyone can afford. After SS fees taobao isn't much cheaper than brand, AND it's much slower to arrive. By the time I'd get things like a crappy taobao blouse order, I could have found better items on LM or just buying new from a brand.

Another aspect that I realized was that because brand is better quality, it is also easier to wear in normie outfits. Like you can 100% style most brand in a normie fashion and it comes across as a quirky designer clothes. This is vs taobao which usually looks more cheap or costumey.

I think the best approach for beginners is to stick to brand but start with a small capsule. Only buy what you really love, and build a wardrobe gradually over time. And don't fall into the trap of spending lots of $$$ on cheap accessories like socks or jewelry, because those items will drag down your whole outfit and also fall apart more easily.

[Anonymous No.10691453]

>>10691446
hoop skirts are really annoying to sit in but a lot more comfortable to wear in summer

[Anonymous No.10691454]

What should I keep in mind when dressing for an anime con? I've worn lolita plenty, but have literally never been to an anime convention before. Just wondering if I should wear my nicer stuff or not, or if there's anything I should keep in mind about outfit planning.

[Anonymous No.10691455]

>>10691447
$450, i normally wear classic which can be found for cheap

[Anonymous No.10691457]

What does "KC" stand for?

[Anonymous No.10691459]

>>10691457
headpieces

[Anonymous No.10691461]

>>10691457
stands for katyusha, which is japanese for headbow (even though it comes from a russian word that doesn't mean that)

[Anonymous No.10691466]

>>10691447
Around $200 plus int'l shipping costs. I only wear secondhand old school brand

[Anonymous No.10691470]

>>10691199
i honestly tend not to bother unless it's visibly dirty.

>>10691446
i nearly always prefer pettis unless it's really hot. i've seen a lot of goofy-looking hoop skirts, plus there's the issue of flashing everyone behind you more easily if you're riding an escalator or bending over or whatever. i know some people layer them.

>>10691454
wear flat shoes for all the walking, definitely. also carry around bandaids or comfier shoes in your purse, just in case they hurt you.

[Anonymous No.10691473]

>>10691466
how are you pulling this off in the year of our lord 2021

[Anonymous No.10691474]

>>10691466
The only way I would believe this is if you have cheap accessories, don't buy big brand, and/or have shitty taste in jsks/ops/skirts

[Anonymous No.10691482]

>>10691473
>>10691474
I should've estimated closer to $240. I left out my shoes, sorry. But I stalk Mercari, Fril, and Xianyu religiously and frequently find dresses for under $50-100 and cheap blouses and skirts. You can find popular dresses, like from Baby's classical series, for cheap if you look out for them. Most of my wardrobe is Baby and some IW and Meta. Also I don't really wear jewelry

[Anonymous No.10691483]

>>10691473
>>10691474
I should've estimated closer to $240. I left out my shoes, sorry. But I stalk Mercari, Fril, and Xianyu religiously and frequently find dresses for around $50-100 and cheap blouses and skirts. You can find popular dresses, like from Baby's classical series, for cheap if you look out for them. Most of my wardrobe is Baby and some IW and Meta. Also I don't really wear jewelry

[Anonymous No.10691485]

>>10691483
To add on to this, learning how to repair damages will save you lots of money

[Anonymous No.10691488]

>>10691226
Good. I hope the mods saw the complaints about that sorry excuse of a group when threads about it were active.

[Anonymous No.10691492]

What do you gulls do when you get a friend request from an ita?
I've gotten a number of requests mostly from brand itas who get weird when I post a coord with pieces from their fav brand and I can't decide whether or not to accept for the milk or deny because I don't want want them to get weirder than they already do in the comments.

[Anonymous No.10691496]

>>10691492
Get weird? How?

[Anonymous No.10691500]

is wunderwelt more reliable than lacemarket? in terms of quality and price for secondhand.
i could be wrong but it looks like you can get better deals and quality on wunderwelt than you can on LM,.

[Anonymous No.10691514]

>>10691447
I also mostly own oldschool secondhand brand and it's about $350 for me. My main pieces were all $200 max w/o any fees, I prefer a simple style with very few accessories and mostly wear offbrand shoes and bags, also I often incorporate thrifted vintage items (blouses, jackets) into my outfits.

[Anonymous No.10691555]

>>10691492
Just don't accept it if you don't want to, easy

[Anonymous No.10691563]

>>10691500
Wunderwelt is really overpriced and the website rn is a shitshow

[Anonymous No.10691584]

what the fuck is a clolita
>capcha was JP JSK

[Anonymous No.10691587]

>>10691584
Chinese lolita

[Anonymous No.10691589]

>>10691584
clolita is chinese lolita. a colita would be someone who wears chinese lolita. and chinese lolita means brands that are styled a certain way. cheap taobao poly chiffons and costumey crap. or terrible "goth" that isn't goth at all. some chinese brands aren't necessarily clolita. but chinese brands that look vastly different than japanese ones are clolita.

[Anonymous No.10691595]

>>10691589
Well explained. I support this message.

[Anonymous No.10691740]

does anyone else feel they look frumpy in lolita compared to their normie clothing? I love my coords, but my motivation is waning because I look so much better in lacy normie dresses with no poof. When I’m wearing lolita, it looks like I’m a child wearing my mom’s dresses? Like there’s too much cloth and my body gets drowned beneath it all. The few dresses that look good are long sleeve, low frill, button down OPs. Is there a certain body type for lolita? I’m a short, thin rectangle and feel like crap in a JSK+blouse

[Anonymous No.10691742]

>>10691740
Honestly your body type seems perfect for lolita. What substyle/brands do you wear? You might just want to try more toned down looks.

[Anonymous No.10691758]

>>10691740
If you are too short lolita makes you look stumpy. This is my personal opinion and aesthetic, but it sounds like you agree with it in general. I think 5'4" is the sweet spot and the shorter you are the more you have to fight not to look childlike.

[Anonymous No.10691777]

>>10691758
>>10691740

Hard agree. Once you're very short you'll never have the issue of being too tall for a specific piece of course, but many items start hitting at not quiiiite the right spot at this point. Since the lolita silhouette is already quite fussy in itself small mismatches in proportions throw the whole look off. I'm 5' tall and look pretty decent in OPs but the jsk + blouse combo makes me look like I'm drowning in fabric (I'm a normal weight for my height, not super thin either).
>>10691740 if I were you I would look out for jsks that are shorter than normal. What style do you usually wear? I can tell you what I found out looks good on me through trial and error.

[Anonymous No.10691788]

>>10691777
>>10691758
Unless they're intentionally longer cuts from brands much lolita is totally fine on shorter girls. Its a fashion made primarily for young women in Japan where average height for even adult women is around 5ft. Some cuts may be more flattering on some people's specific body types and long cuts can be overwhelming on shorter people depending on the style you prefer but to say lolita becomes unflattering if you're short is the dumbest newb shit I've ever heard in my life. Obviously you'll have an easier time in old school or older sweet finding good lengths on things if you're petite but to say that the fashion is somehow harder to wear when you're short is a ridiculous stretch.

[Anonymous No.10691795]

>>10691788
It's fine yeah, but I would honestly say that being a little bit above 5' looks better with most dresses. I'm guessing that what anon was trying to say is that you always hear from girls despairing over being too tall for things so it makes you think that there's no way to be "too short" for a specific piece or coord.

[Anonymous No.10691797]

>>10691742
I mainly wear sweet. Closet has AP sweet prints from early-mid 2010s, and Meta. The meta prints are very toned-down, and I think they look good on me. The AP OPs with rectangle necklines can be kinda hidden by a cardigan and look ok. But the JSKs just make me look frumpy. It’s like there’s too much going on in the neck area with the lace from the blouses and lace from the dress. I look exceptionally bad in a jsk + low Peter Pan collar + short or puffed sleeves. It makes me look like a living doll, in a dangerous sense. I’ll get a cutsew and see if that’s any better

>>10691758
I’m inclined to agree with you. I’m 5’0” and thought my height would be a boon, but it’s been a constant struggle to strike a balance between the sweet elegance that drew me to the fashion, and the fact I kinda look like a child. I hear tall lolitas have it rougher, though

The sad part is I really like sweet motifs.

[Anonymous No.10691808]

>>10691758
i guess the grass is always greener on the other side. im 5'5 and I feel like anything i wear from ap is waaay too short, a lot of those dresses be ending really close to my thighs........and it especially looks weird on sweet prints, god i wish more brands had tall size options

[Anonymous No.10691824]

I’m the anon from >>10691797, forgot to mention that all my meta dresses are OPs

>>10691777
Agree with everything here! OPs look pretty decent, but it’s the JSK blouse combo that make the neck and bodice area look overwhelming, I guess? The jsk by itself is a little overwhelming at times if it’s an all-over print, but border prints are a little more manageable. It’s weird because I can wear tealength floral prints in normie fashion. It might be the double whammy of poof and loud patterns

[Anonymous No.10691827]

To the anon who asked about which skirt Momoko is wearing under the heart apron, it's this:
https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-gingham-check-tiered-skirt-2004

[Anonymous No.10691871]

>>10691824
>OPs look pretty decent, but it’s the JSK blouse combo that make the neck and bodice area look overwhelming, I guess?

I suffer from this too. I’m glad I’m not the only one, everyone seems to prefer jsks. I think because I have really narrow shoulders and a small head? I’m not particularly skinny anymore, I just have small bone structure. The jsk blouse combo eats me alive. Peter Pan collar/puff sleeves is particularly bad for me too, my head looks too small or something.

General (not lolita) jfashion has been a blessing for my narrow shoulders otherwise.

[Anonymous No.10691873]

>>10691187
absolutely yes. i wear normal underwear + biker shorts + bloomers in that order, but normal underwear is the bare minimum

[Anonymous No.10691875]

>>10691873
Why do you wear biker shorts under bloomers, don't they essentially serve the same purpose?

[Anonymous No.10691878]

>>10691873
Why the bike shorts too? That sounds so unnecessary

[Anonymous No.10691880]

>>10691875
im a bit anal about sweating on my lolita or risking sweat stains because of hyperhidrosis, so i like to have shorts + a dress shield(?) under everything. just normal underwear + bloomers should be fine for most people though, might have worded my above reply a bit wrong

[Anonymous No.10691911]

>>10691880

What is a dress shield? A slip?
I feel you anon I also get very sweaty and also wear a protective layer under my burando.

[Anonymous No.10691914]

>>10691740
I am also thin and short, perhaps not a rectangle, but what I found helps reduce the frumpiness on my end is get dresses with corset lacing, and go for shorter dresses like the other anons said. I'm particular abt corset lacing as it gives me more control over the silhouette. If I'm super cinched at the bodice even if I'm wearing a super sweet print I find it doesn't look too childlike.

[Anonymous No.10691917]

>>10691911
hey same hat anon! and it's kind of like a crop top but with padding in the armpits. picrel

[Anonymous No.10691931]

>>10691827
Bless you anon

[Anonymous No.10691948]

do i have to wear wigs to be a sweet lolita? i've been dong research for months and months about lolita and i see a fair share of natural hair, as well as wigs. i know it's a must in OTT but casual/normal sweet are wigs necessary?

[Anonymous No.10691949]

>>10691948
No

[Anonymous No.10691950]

>>10691948
>it's a must in OTT
hard disagree. if you can style your own hair and know how to use a curling iron, there's nothing about natural hair that's any worse than a wig. Personally I find that natural hair color goes with everything, so I've never had the urge to buy a wig for the color alone. I can see the appeal for that aspect, though.

[Anonymous No.10691964]

>>10691871
I'm in the same small head and shoulders boat. Old school style blouses where the collar goes part way up the neck don't suit the look I'm after but the collars on everything else go all the way to my shoulders and make me look like a toddler playing dress up

[Anonymous No.10692003]

>>10691950
People who say this usually have shit hair.

[Anonymous No.10692022]

>>10691950
It's not about colour. If your natural hair is thin and slick to the point the accessories won't stay in your hair and slide off, maybe it's better to wear a wig after all. You rarely see ott being worn with natural hair for the very reason that you're putting a bunch of stuff on your head, wigs will give you more space and structure to work with.

[Anonymous No.10692430]

help a stupid ita with sock ideas with this Baby dress

iirc there are no matching OTKs or anything like that, what kind of socks should i go with?

[Anonymous No.10692433]

>>10692430
Baby's basic white lace topped socks would be cute

[Anonymous No.10692437]

>>10692430
Maybe something like these to match the ribbon motif, if you're set on printed legwear

[Anonymous No.10692439]

>>10691950
I have suuuper thick wavy res hair that holds pigtails, bangs, and curls well. I still buy wigs for a specific look, and they're convenient if my bangs are being uncooperative. I can smell your greasy flat hair through my phone kek

Does everyone universally agree that storage wigs in bags is totally fine? I have mannequin heads in my closet but my god they take up so much space

[Anonymous No.10692442]

>>10692439
>I can smell your greasy flat hair through my phone kek
what? where did you get that impression at all? i actually have fairly dry, thick hair and get keratin treatments so that it doesn't get frizzy. no need to be a weird, rude cunt just because i don't think wigs are 100% necessary for OTT

[Anonymous No.10692469]

>>10691917
Omg anon YES i have this exact same thing! Except mine is more like picrel. It works wonders!

[Anonymous No.10692472]

>>10691284
You get that in normal underwear too (not the shit part though. Someone needs to wipe their ass)

[Anonymous No.10692473]

>>10691500
They're expensive now

[Anonymous No.10692778]

Have the brands ever collaborated with each other? Like a baby/angelic pretty collab? IW and victorian maiden?

[Anonymous No.10692800]

>>10692778
Krad lanrete and Baroque (?) have collabed with Moitie

[Anonymous No.10692802]

>>10692778
I want a BABY/AP collab. A BABY dress with AP pockets.

[Anonymous No.10692814]

>>10692802
other than personal taste and stylistic/art differences the lack of pockets is the single thing stopping BABY from being objectively superior to AP.

[Anonymous No.10692887]

>>10691873
Biker shorts sound like a good idea on period days

[Anonymous No.10693094]

>>10692778
those are direct competitors... it would be like pepsi and coke doing a collab. no point

[Anonymous No.10693339]

>>10685512
>>10686542
Just got my pair in, following up on this. So the color is actually more of an ivory (which I needed, and it's nice) and I ordered these through clobba because I had another order open at the time. My pair was made with 0.5cm added to all straps because I have high arches and I wanted enough room to wear a range of socks with it.

Good points:
- The pleather used is pretty soft and it's not stiff on the leg at all
- Zipper is extremely solid
- Relatively comfortable for its height, could probably be better with a comfort insole
- Fits my somewhat wide feet nicely at my normal shoe size
- Construction's somewhere between sosic and iris corolla

Could be better:
- The middle two straps are bigger on my leg because of the extra cm. Not a dealbreaker, but I did try to ask if the additional cm could only be applied to one or two straps but it's an all or nothing situation.

The additional cm is great for my foot and for the top strap being comfortable but yeah, it's otherwise made for a foot and leg that doesn't really have much change in overall width. I don't regret getting them but I'd highly recommend carefully measuring your foot and leg to determine if extra length is needed on the straps or not for your foot size.

[Anonymous No.10693359]

Just bought my first AP dress (MTO sugary carnival op), and I noticed on the tag that it says that the dress must only be washed by a professional dry cleaner. Can I really not wash it myself? It's just I worry that if I wear it all day and I get some sweat/deodorant/food stains on it and I can't immediately wash it after, the stains will stick before I get a chance to take it to the dry cleaner the next morning. Advice?

[Anonymous No.10693367]

>>10693359
They always say not to wash it yourself because of stupid customers putting it on high heat wash or something. You can ignore it mostly.
i’ve always hand washed my pieces in cold water or washed on delicate cycle cold without issue. The only time you should worry is for red prints or delicate older stuff like puppet circus.
do a spot test in water first. But it shouldn’t bleed or give you issues unless you have red in the print (red can bleed easily for older prints)

[Anonymous No.10693373]

>>10693367
ayrt my sc op is the black colorway so I hope that wouldn't cause problems on a cold delicate cycle, also there's no real reds in it just mostly pinks, hopefully it should be fine? ill try spot testing first though

[Anonymous No.10693376]

>>10693367
>>10693373
black can bleed as well. get some color catchers. use them even if you don't think the dress will bleed, just in case.

[Anonymous No.10693384]

Am I about to get scammed?
I just sold a jsk on lacemarket. Everything was going well until the buyer paid the invoice. They're located in China and the address they gave me is different from name and address on their paypal, the invoice was also paid by an email which was not the email I sent the invoice to. The buyer also asked me to mark the cost of the item down to avoid customs.
I haven't shipped out the package yet. Am I just reading too much into this or is something fishy?

[Anonymous No.10693431]

>>10693384
Only ship to the address on the paypal or they can file a claim saying you never shipped the item. Read the LM rules anon. Refund the buyer and tell them it needs to be the same paypal address.
For international shipping sometimes the address doesn’t show up on paypal, but it shouldn’t be a different address.

[Anonymous No.10693434]

>>10693373
I mean if you really want to risk SC go ahead. Black bleeds as well and you'll end up with a fuzzy line around all your marshmallow pieces of the print. I can almost always tell when some idiot on LM washed something wrong from the way my print looks.

[Anonymous No.10693439]

>>10693434
Wait so is the livejournal totally wrong

[Anonymous No.10693445]

>>10693439
nta but is there a good general guide anywhere on how to wash lolita pieces?

[Anonymous No.10693446]

>>10693445
Yes there is. Google it.

[Anonymous No.10693452]

>>10693439
just because it didn't bleed for one person doesn't mean it won't bleed for you
also, this is probably talking about the 2009 or 2011 version, the MTO is a different dress and might act differently upon washing.

[Anonymous No.10693517]

how long does it take lacemarket to manually verify accounts now?
a dream item came up for a great price and im scared it will get sniped just cause i want to use a diff paypal email

[Anonymous No.10693520]

>>10693517
Could be hours, could be days

[Anonymous No.10693521]

>>10693517
took mine about 2 days. best of luck nonny!

[Anonymous No.10693533]

Are the juliette et justine boots made of real leather or is it PU? I can't find info on it and i really don't want to spend $$$ if it's fake leather

[Anonymous No.10693575]

Is old atelier boz hard to come by? If Im searching for their pieces from 2001-2002, how much can I expect to shell out? $300-400?

[Anonymous No.10693581]

>>10693575
all of it is now because they closed but their stuff generally sells for retail+ no matter what age it is.

[Anonymous No.10693582]

I just received some items that look like they've faded in certain areas over time. Is there a way to fix uneven fading like this, or do I just embrace it and wear as is?

[Anonymous No.10693585]

>>10693582
Not much you can do, honestly. It's probably not as noticeable as you think, but I feel like anything you can do to attempt to fix the color will just fade it more.

[Anonymous No.10693663]

>>10691181
Anyone know what taobao shop this ring is from?

[Anonymous No.10693667]

>>10693663
Maybe cats tea party?

[Anonymous No.10693724]

>>10693517
Contact the seller and ask them to hold it for you while explaining your situation

[Anonymous No.10693758]

>>10693663
store:
L.花時季

item description:
【L.花時季】*草莓绵绵兔* Lolita原创塑料片 项链戒指呲甜手作

idk if it's still available. i had it saved to my wishlist.

[Anonymous No.10693787]

>>10693758
modern day AP could never

[Anonymous No.10693806]

>>10693724
If they're still waiting for approval, they can't send messages either.

[Anonymous No.10694222]

>>10692430
hi i'm back being a slightly colorblind ita

do you all think the dark pink AP tea parties would work with this dress due to the darker pinks nearing the hem? 2hk8v

[Anonymous No.10694225]

>>10694222
It might look a little odd because the teaparties are more modern dainty styling and the dress is kinda oldschool. But the color would work.
You can also just do black or white chunky shoes like picrel.

>but the dress doesn’t have black
Oldschool didn’t care about that since it’s more casual in the styling rules and used white or black shoes. They didn’t have many color options back then

[Anonymous No.10694227]

>>10694225
this wouldn’t be considered ita in this day? i love the idea of black chunky or even brownish to go with the violins…

i’ll look into it for sure though, thank you anon! i love old school sweet

[Anonymous No.10694229]

>>10694227
Nayrt, but I think brown shoes will look super cute with the OP! I would also consider chunkier off-white shoes before the pink tea parties, or heels for a more princessy vibe

[Anonymous No.10694233]

>>10694227
Nope, it’s not ita at all because the dress is obviously older styling. See picrel. Its just something about oldschool that black or natural color shoes go with it, even if there’s nothing else black. Brown would also be nice like the other anon said.
(It would look pretty ita however if you took some pink ruffly princess thing that baby released in 2021 and tried to wear chunky black shoes)

[Anonymous No.10694236]

>>10694227
You can use the AP tea parties. The old school anons are just polluting this board. Sweet lolita is still a thing, despite their desire to lean towards classic lolita. Hahaha.

Seriously, if you're from the past. Ignore these old schools anons. It's advice, but it's newfag advice and the tea parties are fine so long as the color matches. Overall, do what you want/love. The oldschool stamp is boring, bland, and lacks creativity because they don't realize they are dipping into classic lolita.

[Anonymous No.10694239]

>>10694236
And sweet shoes with a sweet dress isn't boring, bland, and doesn't lack creativity? I think the suggestions above look far more fun and in no world does brown automatically make something classic.

[Anonymous No.10694240]

>>10694236
This post is dumb but I agree the tea parties would be fine. The dress doesn't even seem to be old school (pre-2006) and could easily be used for modern sweet

[Anonymous No.10694242]

>>10694236

What
>’oldschool is boring bland and lacks creativity’
>suggests teaparties that everyone and their mother has
>suggests a newfag ‘do what they want’ when they are coming on here for advice to not to end up looking ita

What are you even on and how are teaparties less ‘boring and bland’ than the oldschool option. The goal isn’t to look exciting, it’s to look good

[Anonymous No.10694246]

Would these shoes work for sweet? Or are they too loafer looking and only for classic or sweet-classic?

[Anonymous No.10694260]

Hey has anyone had a problem with Closetchild being unable to e-mail them? Just got a DHL confirmation for my order but no email from CC other than the auto-confirm. This also happened in the past where they were trying to contact me but couldn't. Since I got the auto-reply though, shouldn't my e-mail address be fine? Idk, I'm at a loss.

[Anonymous No.10694496]

Does anyone have the picture of those Meta dresses one black and one white with those little half shoulder capes? I can't find them of lolibrary anymore

[Anonymous No.10694498]

>>10694222
there are shoes in old glbs that look almost exactly like tea parties idk why everyone says they don't work

[Anonymous No.10694502]

>>10694246
It depends, I wouldn't pair them with sugary carnival but they could look good with a suit styled cord or a dress with a regimental style to it.

[Anonymous No.10694508]

>>10694496
Can you be more specific this is extremely vague

[Anonymous No.10694510]

>>10694246
i only see sweet in these, not classic, unless you can remove the top set of bows. but the loafer design makes it academic themed. i think a lot of the academic designs are colors like navy that go better with brown, but you know your wardrobe best. the shoes in this coord pic i have saved look similar.

[Anonymous No.10694511]

>>10691181
Do corsets/shapewear help bring in back fat near the bust? Usually things fit me at the waist fine (even if it doesn't hurt to bring that in too) but not the bust.

[Anonymous No.10694512]

Can someone tell me wtf japonica is saying here? All the items were marked as 'won' so I don't get what they're trying to say and I don't wanna agree to something I'm not fine with

[Anonymous No.10694524]

>>10694502
i was kinda hoping they would go with my SC haha, but i have actual teaparties coming in soon too

>>10694510
I did get the brown colored ones! i don't have anything academic themed yet but i can wear the shoes with my more normie clothes at least. my wardrobe is classic or gothic but i want to branch out

>>10694260
they should give you an email, i've always gotten an email. Are you using a @gmail account? that one shouldn't have problems. Also, check your spam

[Anonymous No.10694527]

>>10694512
If you order five items and one is sold out, they’re asking if they should still buy the other four items in that situation.

[Anonymous No.10694530]

>>10694527
Does that count if the items were marked as won and sold out to them? or are they saying for future reference? I would understand if one item wasn't purchased yet but since they managed to buy all of them I wasn't sure if they mean for THIS order, or for future orders

[Anonymous No.10694534]

>>10694530
I believe they’re asking for a future situation, at least that’s my understanding!

[Anonymous No.10694537]

>>10694508
>>10694496

[Anonymous No.10694541]

apologies if this is the wrong thread for this but i just bought a bunch of stuff from someone on lacemarket, everything was completely fine but after i sent them the payment through paypal goods and services they asked me to send them the cost of the paypal fee which i know is against the rules. what am i supposed to do here? i'm just worried that if i don't respond they'll give me a negative review or something.

[Anonymous No.10694542]

>>10694541
Tell them no it’s against the LM rules and that they need to cover the cost themselves. See if they accept it or it they will just refund you.
If they leave you a negative review, get the LM mods involved (the mods can remove negative reviews)

[Anonymous No.10694543]

>>10694542
the thing is they've already sent out the package so i don't think that simply refunding me would be an option.

[Anonymous No.10694546]

>>10694543
It’s literally against Paypal’s ToS, tell them no.

[Anonymous No.10694549]

>>10694546
ok, will try doing that. i'm just really anxious since i've never had a bad experience buying on lacemarket before. the seller was really kind and helpful and i feel bad for saying no (even though i know i'm right in this instance) especially since i don't know how they'll end up reacting.

[Anonymous No.10694553]

>>10694549
Just word it nicely, like "I'm sorry but to my understanding it's against both the LM and PayPal ToS to have the buyer pay for your seller fee". Try to be polite. Either way, not on you to pay it.

[Anonymous No.10694562]

>>10694553
thanks so much, i don't think i'd be able to word it as nicely as you did. honestly i'm still freaking out but i just gotta do it, thank you again anon

[Anonymous No.10694575]

>>10694562
If you tell them it's against ToS, they become more scared of you than you are of them. I never sugarcoat it and I haven't had an issue yet.

[Anonymous No.10694577]

>>10694575
alright, just replied to their message saying that's against the rules, hopefully the seller will be understanding. i'm a bit confused on how to contact the mods if i end up having to get them involved though, would you know if sending them a message through the facebook page linked to in the lacemarket faq is the only way? again thanks so much for your help.

[Anonymous No.10694589]

>>10694577
Worry about it if it even gets to it. I can almost guarantee this person will back off immediately.

[Anonymous No.10694610]

. sweet lolita => std free
. sweet OTT lolita => chlamydia
. fairy kei => herpes
. ????
. ? => full blown aids

Help me complete the list

[Anonymous No.10694614]

Is 5’5/16cm too tall to wear lolita? Specifically sweet lolita

[Anonymous No.10694616]

Is 5’5/165cm too tall to wear lolita? Specifically sweet lolita

[Anonymous No.10694618]

>>10694616
No

[Anonymous No.10694621]

>>10694616
That's like the average height of the western lolita and not tall at all. The only weight what could stop you from wearing it is your weight and freaky body proportions.

[Anonymous No.10694622]

>>10694610
gothic lolita >syphilis
old school >mold
taobao/tiktok lolita>full blown aids

[Anonymous No.10694625]

>>10694622
>gothic lolita >syphilis
I like your style

[Anonymous No.10694626]

what do you guys recommend for stretching out shirring?
I just got a really cute skirt, with the shirring stretched out all the way its even too big for me but the shirring is super tight so the skirt is really uncomfortable to wear

[Anonymous No.10694627]

What is Chocochip Cookies quality like?

[Anonymous No.10694630]

>>10694627
Crap, but most of the old school styled things are.

[Anonymous No.10694631]

>>10694626
when this happens to me i either replace the elastic with one that stretches more easily or put the piece of clothing on something wide like a chair or side of the table and leave it there to stretch out for a few days. works with some pieces,doesn't with others

[Anonymous No.10694633]

If i replace the medieval potato string with cute ribbon, is it going to make this actually cute and wearable? I like the rest of the dress

[Anonymous No.10694634]

aristofag here I've always wanted to get something sweet, just one semi-decent coord at least to see how it looks and feels on me, but I don't wanna go very sweet
How do I even find something classic-y but also sweet-ish that won't cost me as much as my aristo stuff? AP's chocolate-y stuff is probably my best bet, but do I really wanna invest money on an AP piece that may or may not make me look like that scary Anaise man....?

[Anonymous No.10694636]

>>10694633
Still looks like a potato sack

[Anonymous No.10694637]

>>10694634
There are ap regimental pieces on mercari for $100 rn
Also it’s ap so you can just sell it. And you will look like anaise if you don’t have a cute wig and if you’re built like a tree trunk, but wear it if you like it.

[Anonymous No.10694660]

>>10694633
no. don't blame the tassles and stuff, the dress is shit regardless.

[Anonymous No.10694696]

>>10694633
I remember that post
>medieval peasant kei
oh this board is good some times

[Anonymous No.10694697]

>>10694633
try photoshop, might give you an idea of how it'll look, if you're too paranoid of pirating photoshop (eventhough I'm sure there must be a free verssion by now) you can try googling "photoshop online" and a few solutions where you don't have to register or download anything will pop up

[Anonymous No.10694708]

>>10694616
no im 5'9 and wear sweet without too many problems, you should be fine

[Anonymous No.10694770]

Recommendations for an SS willing to deal with weird requests? There's this Kirby hand sanitizer case I badly want but it comes with hand sanitizer and my current SS won't buy it because it contains alcohol and can't be shipped overseas. I'm hoping another SS will be willing to buy it and discard the actual sanitizer

[Anonymous No.10694772]

>>10694770
Maybe hoyoyo? You can try putting your request in the comments of the purchase. They have always been chill and done my requests correctly but i haven’t tried anything like this with them

[Anonymous No.10694875]

i have another question about shoes
will these be good for sweet? you think they'll go with SC or are they fuck ugly? help me not be ita
it says these are cow leather so i'm into it

[Anonymous No.10694881]

>>10694875
i think they are a bit simple for the inherent "extra-ness" of sweet lolita, i feel like there might not be much balance with how "little" the shoes would do with pulling the entire coord together if that makes sense


imho these would do better for old school sweet and classic lolita

[Anonymous No.10694915]

>>10694881

Are these options better for sweet? i can get a black bow shoe clip for the toe part? i'm leaning towards the pearl pair. but if none of these are it, i'll just suck it up and go with angelic imprint

and thanks, i do see the first pair i posted are very simple. i do wear classic so i think i will get a pair for that!

[Anonymous No.10694946]

Sorry if this is the wrong board but is anyone else into jirai kei/ryosangata?? I’m trying to find more western resources/anything in english about it but I’ve barely found anything.

[Anonymous No.10694955]

>>10694875
>>10694915
you can wear them for sweet lolita just fine. OTT is a different story. if you're going for OTT then you probably need more over the top shoes with more elements.

But seriously, there's nothing wrong with these for sweet lolita. I'm tired of the distortion from what the genre is. Sweet lolita and classic are relatively close in the ball park. (Innocent World comes to mind) OTT is something entirely different.

Old school is just sweet lolita with you guys slapping a hype label on it.

[Anonymous No.10694956]

Were there replicas of AP's Cherry Berry Bunny? Is there a master list of known replicas? I recently received a CBB jsk and noticed the tag is the old AP design that was prominent before 2009. No care tag either but all of the small details and lace checks out so I'm feeling like it could be a sample piece but unsure about it.

[Anonymous No.10694958]

>>10694956
Not a common one. If Oojia made the print, there'd be noticeable differences in the lace, design, and bow crispness.

[Anonymous No.10694959]

>>10694956
Also if you're referencing the tag guide or any lolita resource, a lot are extremely inaccurate because we have people join the lolita community way past that time period and try to be historians.

Being that I was around in 2009, this is the correct tag. I think there was a switch over in tags used that year, but I can't remember 100%.

[Anonymous No.10694961]

>>10694958
>>10694959
It's definitely not a replica from Oojia, as I used to own a few back when she was active. The seller I bought CBB from said she got it secondhand from Mercari. The bows are crisp, the various lace details are correct in their proper areas, and the built in petticoat and overall shape of the jsk feels right. I wasn't sure if there's a possibility that they made and sold sample pieces back in 2009 that might've used leftover tags (and not have a care tag). I haven't had any experiences with AP's sample pieces.. only seen a few sample tags from Japanese secondhand sites.

[Anonymous No.10694962]

>>10694961
Strange. I think both tags are probably correct, since 2009 had the tag switch. Once we got into the polka-dotty tags AP went full OTT.

[Anonymous No.10694963]

>>10694961
if it looks good, the lace is correct, and the shape is right, it's probably the real deal. i know there's some really close 1:1 replicas but those were dresses that came out after 2010 so i think you're ok.

[Anonymous No.10694966]

>>10694962
>>10694963
Thanks for your input gulls!

[Anonymous No.10694993]

looking for an oversized jp uniform type cardigan that isn’t from aliexpress, Amazon, or taobao. yes picrel is from aliexpress because i can’t find anything else

checked the nanchatte OP already but it looks like they didn’t include shop links. pls send help

[Anonymous No.10694996]

>>10694993
Anon you know you can search ‘[shopname] taobao’ on google or if it’s a jo store then. “[shopname] jp’ and it will be the first result normally.
If you want something jp then look at eastboy. It’s much cheaper secondhand

[Anonymous No.10695116]

>>10694993
If you're okay with plain/dark colours, get uniqlo men's cardigans. They're really nice.

[Anonymous No.10695145]

i fell in love with jetj and krad lanrete so i guess i'm selling most of my wardrobe, at least it's kinda fun
>the moitie and mary magdalene i have, will i end up regretting it? i haven't worn it in 6 months and more, i think it's time to give them new home

[Anonymous No.10695171]

>>10695145
I think you're in the wrong thread nonnie this isn't a question

[Anonymous No.10695173]

>>10695171
yeah i know but i realized too late to delete it whoops, plz disregard

[Anonymous No.10695186]

How long does WW usually take to send a payment request for shipping info? (I saw on the checkout + FAQ that shipping isn't included in intl order.) I placed my order last week and they charged my bank card, but I haven't received any message about the shipping cost yet.

[Anonymous No.10695189]

>>10695186
In my experience anywhere between a few days to over a week. Just be patient.

[Anonymous No.10695191]

Is there any place online that you gulls use for lolita inspo that isn't either a hugbox like fb/reddit or filled to the brim with derailing and shit flinging like here? I know some of you use insta but I just wish there was a place that was more all in one location. I just need some middle ground between the extremes please.

[Anonymous No.10695209]

can you iron headdresses? I bought one second hand and its all wrinkled and frumpy looking

[Anonymous No.10695212]

>>10695209
Of course you can, it's just another piece of fabric

[Anonymous No.10695229]

>>10695209
it depends on the fabric. be careful. usually it's better to steam things though.
>>10695212
please kill yourself off the board. thanks.

[Anonymous No.10695231]

>>10695229
Should I take all of my perfectly ironed headdresses with me? Chill out, my response was perfectly fine

[Anonymous No.10695233]

>>10695231
yeah idg anon’s damage, your response is fine. but original question asking anon, if there are any satin ribbons or chemical lace make sure to use low heat because those are basically plastic and will melt or warp if you’re not careful. gentle steaming might be better in that case.

[Anonymous No.10695257]

What are taobao brands that make accessories/shoes that can go with juliette and justine? Like, fancy classical stuff?( Also open to non taobao)
I know mask of baroque, but they’re out of my size currently. And i think yilia has nice blouses?

[Anonymous No.10695372]

Is rakuten express decent or is it shit? Currently use zenmarket and if my initial estimate is right, I think rakuten express would be cheaper since I'm not getting hit with the ¥300 per item fee

[Anonymous No.10695425]

>>10695257
Shoes:
>https://shop569629718.taobao.com/
>https://xiantailangcos.taobao.com/

Blouses and accessories:
>https://shop570111785.taobao.com/
>https://shop564054836.taobao.com/

[Anonymous No.10695426]

I’ve been telling random normies that I’m cosplaying, if they ask me what I’m dressed up for. and i say that i just like wearing it around. (Obviously i know i’m not and it’s my normal egl clothes)
I don’t want to explain gothic lolita because of the ‘lolita’ part that freaks normal people out and a lot of them don’t even know what jfash is. most people seem to understand cosplay though.
Is this offensive to the lolita community? Does anyone else do this?

[Anonymous No.10695427]

>>10695426
It's people like you that piss off the rest of us when they "know it's cosplay". Just tell them it's a Japanese street fashion, you retard.

[Anonymous No.10695428]

>>10695427

>japanese street fashion
I find this makes them want to keep talking to me on what that is…when i want to be left alone, but i will just start doing this.
Also why do you care if normies think it’s cosplay or not i mean their opinion means shit anyway

[Anonymous No.10695431]

>>10695428
don't talk to them then, retard.
>why do I care that my family and friends will get a negative impression of my fashion

[Anonymous No.10695434]

>>10695431
You want me totally to ignore random people coming up and asking why i’m dressed up? Lol
My friends and family know it’s egl.also i’m a grown woman if they don’t like it they can kick rocks. Cheers I’ll just call it japanese fashion from now in anyway

[Anonymous No.10695440]

>>10695434
"it's called EGL, sorry i'm a bit busy but thanks for your interest, bye"

do we really have to teach you autists how to have every basic interaction

[Anonymous No.10695442]

>>10695440
>thinking cgl isn’t full of autists to begin with

[Anonymous No.10695444]

>>10695434
Anon strangers are not entitled to your time. You can politely decline conversation or have headphones in and passively ignore them. If they have a problem with you saying you aren't in the right headspace to discuss or don't have time or don't really like explaining it beyond "Japanese street fashion, egl, or Harajuku fashion", then they're fucking weird and you really don't want to engage with them anyway.

[Anonymous No.10695480]

If I'm size 6 US womens with feet 22.5 cm long, what size am I for antaina?

I am getting conflicting info on this and i might have ordered the wrong size lol

[Anonymous No.10695492]

So I noticed zenmarket doesn't mark down packages to whatever amount you want anymore, now they won't go lower than 10% of the original price. Does anyone that uses zenmarket know if they'll mark it lower through email or am I out of luck? If not then any other ss like zenmarket (cheap, realiable, real-time bidding) that still mark down packages?

[Anonymous No.10695507]

>>10695426
>Is this offensive to the lolita community?
Yes. Stop doing that. You're making us all look bad here.

[Anonymous No.10695508]

Where do lonelitas wear OTT pieces? I'm never going to attend a tea party, meet or other event, so all that's left that feels appropriate are various holidays and celebrations. I own one OTT piece that also happens to be my dream dress, so it makes me sad seeing it just sitting there, wrapped in plastic, in my closet.

[Anonymous No.10695580]

>>10695508
I'm not a lonelita but I still go out by myself in lolita, sometimes in OTT pieces. Normies will think you're weird in toned down shit anyway so who cares

[Anonymous No.10695585]

>>10695426
yes, please don't spread this misinfo
you can try explaining is just like "an alternative fashion"--it also might look weird to other people (and it's wrong to you) that people think you're wearing a "costume" when it's your fashion

[Anonymous No.10695700]

Lumiebre clothing? does anyone know how the quality is? I feel like this outfit set is really cute ( without the headbow thing, i don’t think that matches). i am reluctant to spend $300 Usd without more thoughts on this

[Anonymous No.10695735]

Are maid caps generally well-liked or are they more of an acquired taste?

[Anonymous No.10695744]

Which Japanese shops sell public transport card holders? The type you can put on your keychain or bag

[Anonymous No.10695746]

>>10695735
it’s like anything else, i like them but someone else might find them stupid. but it’s not polarizing like idk, fishnets or gold shoes or whatever else cgl likes to meme about. especially not if it’s from a brand like Baby or Moitie (i think they released some semi recently?)

[Anonymous No.10695747]

>>10695735
I like them in theory but have never owned one and I'm kinda scared that they'd look dumb on my face. Am classicfag

[Anonymous No.10695751]

>>10695735
I personally think they're adorable and I think many others share that opinion just looking at the item by itself, but it can be hard coordinating it without it looking silly. Kinda like those soft full bonnets used in oldschool.

[Anonymous No.10695754]

>>10695508
The symphony or art gallery

[Anonymous No.10695821]

>>10695735
Imo I could never get past the fact that they're heavily associated with grandmas. I blame red riding hood.

[Anonymous No.10695843]

>>10695821
I think of babies, personally..

[Anonymous No.10695957]

What is Girlism?
I thought it was Chinese version of the Gothic Lolita Bible but then they got a store. The store is a taobao reseller but it's in Japanese and I don't know what the fuck is going on there

[Anonymous No.10695966]

Fishnets in lolita- I think burandos have done it before, but what's the consensus? Does anyone have pics of lolitas wearing fishnets? Not in ero pls

[Anonymous No.10695971]

>>10695735
i think they look cute in old school sweet or maid inspired coords like moitie has been doing

[Anonymous No.10696000]

What is the link to the new mu fish taobao shop? I know they changed their name but i can’t remember what they changed it to

[Anonymous No.10696002]

>>10695966
Honestly they're fine and really not that uncommon in gothic

[Anonymous No.10696003]

>>10696002
>>10695966
Cryptkasper especially has a lot of coords up with fishnets but I'll mini dump for you since I especially like fishnets in coords

[Anonymous No.10696004]

>>10696003

[Anonymous No.10696005]

>>10696004

[Anonymous No.10696007]

>>10696005

[Anonymous No.10696013]

>>10696007
This entire coord looks so cheap

[Anonymous No.10696014]

>>10695966
anyone that calls fishnets ita doesnt know what theyre talking about and it peeves me to no end that blogs like lolita advice actually parrot that shit

>>10695735
ive always toyed with the idea to get one but feel like it would look silly
they seem fairly uncommon desu

[Anonymous No.10696016]

>>10696000
I believe it's LovelyLota but it seems to be purses/bags only
>https://lovelylota.taobao.com/

[Anonymous No.10696043]

>>10695957
It is a Chinese magazine, but they also opened a store like a Chinese brand collective thing. It's in Japanese for Japanese customers.

[Anonymous No.10696073]

>>10695700
I can't speak to their clothes but their parasols are very high quality and worth the money. I bought one back in 2016 for a one-off Halloween coord and haven't been able to bring myself to part with it

[Anonymous No.10696084]

Anyone has pictures of that atrocious Marie dress with the menstruation stains?

[Anonymous No.10696114]

I bought this 3 tier jsk recently but when it came I didn’t realize how much of a coral pink it is when compared to the pink in the pictures. Does anyone know where I can get any coral pink accessories to match it or if i should get a different color accessory because all of my pinks are much closer to the pink in the stock photo

[Anonymous No.10696116]

>>10696114
A lot of BTSSB pinks are coral/peachy pinks. This material is very sheer and all though so their cotton headbows and things wouldn't look as nice with it imo. If you check lolibrary you may be able to find similar colored items by just looking at all the BTSSB tag and narrowing it down by material.

[Anonymous No.10696270]

Do Baby's cutsews have much stretch to them or are they actually all like 82cm max? My bust is 89cm, I know I'm out of luck on any brand buttoned front cardigans fitting well but I need something cute to wear with skirts and Taobao doesn't have the style I want

[Anonymous No.10696272]

Does anyone know the sauce on this dress? Saved it from a thread from a while ago and forgot to ask there

[Anonymous No.10696274]

>>10696272
Haha I'm retarded. Literally seeing the text in the bottom of pic just now. Oh well. If anyone happens to know the release year/dress name still please let me know.

[Anonymous No.10696276]

Whats the best way to wash Boz's structured pieces (e.g. Giulietta & their other Nunlita stuff with the big structured collars?)

[Anonymous No.10696280]

What are taobao brands that are good quality? I think i know krad lanrete but nothing else besides that. I’m into gothic and classic
Burando is starting to not fit me. i lost weight and also i don’t like any new releases

[Anonymous No.10696285]

>>10695746
>polarizing like idk, fishnets or gold shoes
Since the other anon asked for a consensus on fishnets, what's everyone's thoughts on gold shoes? I haven't seen much talk about this recently

[Anonymous No.10696297]

>>10696285
i think as long as you are wearing them in a way that makes sense and uses quality pieces you'll be fine. if you wear them with some spray painted bbq skewer crown or with the star truck nuts petticoat you'll probably get clowned on.

[Anonymous No.10696298]

>>10696285
AP, BABY, and Meta, all the main sweet brands, make gold shoes. Like any other color shoes, they just need to make sense in the coord.

[Anonymous No.10696308]

>>10696285

I have a pair from Jane Marple. They make sense in certain coords, especially those with certain themes like books or royalty and warm colors. They're not very controversial imo as a lot of brands have some sort of gold shoe

[Anonymous No.10696340]

>>10696013
explain

[Anonymous No.10696611]

Just got this IW OP delivered, and I was wondering if it would be safe to hand wash this under cold water? Looked up the laundry symbols on the tag (see pic) and I'm not sure if the leftmost symbol means "do not wash" or "do not machine wash".

[Anonymous No.10696614]

Are Vivienne Westwood RHS worth buying new?

[Anonymous No.10696615]

>>10696611
It means do not wash, but unless the dress is made of an unusual material, it will be fine as long as you are gentle with it and air dry it. Washing any fabric will wear it down over time. Id be more worried about color bleeding. I put most of my stuff in mesh bags on the handwash cycle with delicates detergent and I've never had any issues.

[Anonymous No.10696618]

>>10696614
Yes because 2nd hand market is full of damaged ones for not cheap. If you are uk local they do irl sales sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10696619]

>>10696615
Thanks, anon! Based off the fabric it probably wouldn't bleed (it's poly iirc) but I'll see if handwashing the waist ribbon first to see if it'll cause any problems.

[Anonymous No.10696628]

>>10694524
>they should give you an email, i've always gotten an email. Are you using a @gmail account? that one shouldn't have problems. Also, check your spam

I'm using hotmail, nothing in the spam box either. Very weird, maybe I should switch to gmail then.

[Anonymous No.10696629]

>>10696628
I know my shopping service has been unable to send emails to Hotmail and Outlook accounts, maybe it's an issue for everyone in Japan

[Anonymous No.10696706]

>>10696297
Just because those of us who live on a mongolian basket weaving forum cringe at an item, doesn't make it bad. Star pettis are fine if it makes sense with the coord, just like gold shoes and fishnets. They look cute as hell with something like Khronos Utopia.

[Anonymous No.10696707]

>>10696618
At their London store? I'll have to give them a visit

[Anonymous No.10696742]

does anyone know what shoes moitie models wear? its always the same shoe

[Anonymous No.10696892]

I have a dress with velveteen waist ties and I just noticed the edges are fraying. Anyone know what method I should use to stop it from getting worse?

[Anonymous No.10696893]

>>10696892
I've never seen velveteen fraying, are they just velvet ribbons? If so, I would carefully trim off the frayed excess with a pair of very sharp scissors and finish them off with some fray check.

[Anonymous No.10696968]

Will leur getter coats like this suit lolita and fit a smaller petti?
Also, is leur getter really out of business?
Is there a spiritual successor besides etc, because i love their style and quality

[Anonymous No.10696996]

Is there a trick to make closing back zippers on dresses easier? When a friend is around, I usually ask them to close it for me, but when I'm alone, I usually end up fighting with them for half an hour before I can properly reach the upper part of my back. This goes for opening said zipper at the end of the day, too. Am I just very unflexible?

[Anonymous No.10697000]

>>10696996
>fighting with zippers for half an hour

You should probably lose weight nonny wtf?? How does it take you that long? Or get one of those zipper helpers. I have never heard of anyone having this much trouble with zippers

[Anonymous No.10697002]

>>10696996
Getting something unzipped is easy so yeah if you are struggling its probably because you dont fit it or really really cannot bend.

[Anonymous No.10697012]

>>10696996
buy a zipper helper, you can get one on amazon or aliexpress, depends how bad you need it.

[Anonymous No.10697014]

>>10697000
>>10697002
Nta anon but I have this same issue from time to time. I have an AP dress that specifically does this and it's a side zipper. It zips halfway then gets stuck under my armpit. There's plenty of room for it to move but I fight with getting it to zip up.

[Anonymous No.10697018]

>>10697014
Usually the zipper may be getting caught in the fabric of the zipper tape where you can't see. This has happened to me a lot with invisible zippers on things that definitely fit. I hate how flimsy and fucky invisible zips are but if your item is well cared for and you are gentle with it it should be okay. Having to pull the zip at an angle (like you may be doing when you don't have help) can worsen it since the pointy bit getting caught is turned sideways into the fabric and stabbing into it or scratching at it, rather than straight down the tubes of fabric around it. If it's already sticking and it is that issue, try to have the zipper replaced.

[Anonymous No.10697036]

>>10697000
>>10697002
My waist and bust measurements sit at 68cm and 85cm, so I don't think I don't fit in the dresses that have this problem for me. After the zipper is finally closed, I also have plenty of breathing and moving room. I believe I'm just very unflexible, in that case? Anyways, I'll try out a zipper helper then.

[Anonymous No.10697051]

>>10696742
Anon.....they're moitie platforms....

[Anonymous No.10697052]

>>10696706
Nah....they're cringe and bad.

[Anonymous No.10697146]

The zipper question has me wondering, are we meant to be unzipping our dresses? I've always just pulled everything on over my head...

[Anonymous No.10697174]

>>10697146
Depends on the dress and your body shape/abilities. I can pull some of my jsks over my head, some I have to unzip, but I always have to unzip unshirred ops.

[Anonymous No.10697235]

does anyone own this? is it shit?

[Anonymous No.10697244]

>>10697235
If you need to ask, then you have taobao tastes and do whatever makes you happy. But yes, everyone else that actually wears *real* lolita will think it's fugly.

[Anonymous No.10697251]

>>10697051
no theyre not, theyre different shoes.
on those moitie platforms the heels are way thinner and less curved.

[Anonymous No.10697565]

Can I wear a petticoat as an underskirt if it's one of those gothic jsk things that has open panels at the front to show skirt. or do i need an underskirt over it? the petticoat is not see through

[Anonymous No.10697570]

>>10697565
You need an underskirt. A petti alone would not look right.

[Anonymous No.10697584]

>>10697244
taobao lolita is still lolita whether you like it or not and chinese lolitas dominate the market even with japanese brands. get over it you fuckin weeb

[Anonymous No.10697596]

speaking of chinese lolita, i want this op from zj story so bad but then i saw this sleeve issue, if i have small tits will it still look like this? Should i not even bother with this dress?
I just want ONE ott marie antoinette dress to live out my dreams.

[Anonymous No.10697607]

>>10697584
NTA but bodyline is also lolita. That doesn't make it not cheap and fugly. Clolita is just the new bodyline. Cope all you want but it's not gonna stop other lolitas from judging you for your poor tastes.

[Anonymous No.10697609]

What are the best proxies to use for Mercari?
I'm pretty new to secondhand shopping from Japan (usually just buy new from webshops) and the only service I used before doesn't deal with Mercari.

[Anonymous No.10697615]

>>10697584
When the originators of the fashion refuse to touch Clolita with a 10 foot pole, it's a bad sign.
Like they even put western indie in their shops over Chinese KEK (eg Mossbadger and Violet Fane in Atelier Pierrot store)
Korea, despite having a fraction of lolita community that China has, and with less access to cheap garment manufacturing processes, has made a much more impressive showing with the few brands put forward, Lief, Baroque, Haenuli
Truly an example of quality over quantity, and also their passion is much more palpable whereas Chinese stuff can't help but feel so cash-grabby and uninspired.
>>10697596
The third bow flopping over so hard it's literally facing the ground is just extra keks.

[Anonymous No.10697618]

I recently bought a dress off of LM described as the shirring being slightly worn out, but it’s completely destroyed. Should I ask for a partial refund? I thought it would be slightly stretched out, not this bad...

[Anonymous No.10697620]

>>10697615
Shit you are right the bow is floppy and sad and the sleeves are messed up. Guess i’ll wait around for one of baby’s marie antoinette sets to pop up. Thanks saved me a few hundred dollars but i’ll probably spend like $1k for btssb version kek. It’s ok it’s my dream

[Anonymous No.10697637]

>>10697620
You'll find something better and be glad you saved the money. You will get the dress of your dreams eventually

[Anonymous No.10697639]

>>10697609
neokyo! might have spelled it wrong but this one is good as the fees are low. you can also try buyee which is more popular!

[Anonymous No.10697640]

>>10697620
Glad you saw the light anon. Chinese lolita marketing is a masterclass in photography and lighting, they're so much easier to get than baby dresses, the price points are night and day. I understand the temptation, I truly do. Just remember that instant gratification won't cover up how shitty the dress feels in person. The raschel lace they're using on the waist bow and sleeves brings me back. The only time I ever had a dress with that stiff shite lace was a my first and last taobao dress. Never again.

[Anonymous No.10697641]

>>10697615
>>10697607
none of this stuff makes it "not lolita." you could call it low quality lolita or whatever but it's still lolita. deal with it weebs
>the originators of the fashion refuse to touch Clolita with a 10 foot pole
ap caters to china like fuckin crazy lmfao

[Anonymous No.10697642]

>>10697641
Think you're misreading, we never said it wasn't lolita. We just called it bad, cheap, and fugly. Not disagreeing whether it fits in the lolita category or not, just bashing it as it deserves.
>ap caters to china like fuckin crazy lmfao
Japanese lolita companies sell TO Chinese lolitas - not disputing that. My point is that:
Japanese lolitas don't wear Chinese lolita and their aggregate stores stock Korean and Western brands, but not Chinese. So, they'll take China money, but they will refuse to put on anything the Chinese makes.

[Anonymous No.10697644]

>>10697641
>weebs
Also, I'm ABC. I hate thinly veiled sinophobic china-bashing as much as the next nuhai, but when it comes to pure discussion about the fashion I can't help but be somewhat dismayed that there isn't ONE quality brand from China. A brand that I could confidently boast about. Like they have such a huge community, buying power and world class garment manufacturing/exporting! How'd they fuck this up?? They had it in the bag. Well, they're the ones making off with the bag. It's working out for them financially to be sure. I just can't advocate for other girls to buy it is all.

[Anonymous No.10697660]

>>10697644
Well, there’s krad lanrete who seems to be good enough that they even did a collab with moi meme moitie. And wunderwelt stocks them. I just bought something from them so we’ll see if they’re truly up to par. But i do think it’s just them for possibly being a good brand from china

[Anonymous No.10697723]

is there any reason why moi meme moitie is so expensive compared to other brands? i would love to own something of theirs but i can't justify the sky high price for something so relatively plain. other brands at least have unique prints that can't be easily replicated. is it just because it's founded by a celebrity? or do they just do it because they know some people are crazy/rich enough to go for it?

[Anonymous No.10697725]

>>10697723
Kinda.
New moi meme moitie is kind of ass and they’re coasting (the brand got acquired by another company who is running the quality to shit) and the musician part of the brand always appeals to people. They know there isn’t competition, plus the nostalgia part of it. so they make it so expensive when it kinda looks like baggy shit.
Old mmm if you can find it, is sturdy and the cuts look amazing in real life when you put them on. Yes they are plain. but there isn’t an equivalent for that kind of cut and style. If you like it, then be prepared to pay out the ass.
Black peace now has some similar pieces though for much cheaper secondhand and sometimes miho matsuda has things too, both cheaper than current mmm

[Anonymous No.10697734]

>>10697723
Are you a sweet lolita? Prints arent the only thing that is in a dress that makes it worth a price. Its the fabric, the design and the details. Things like tailoring arent flashy but is costly.

The base price is higher, usually the quality of the poly is much higher. I know ppl hate on poly here but what ap use and what moitie use is very different. They do make custom lace for all their things, its one of their main points.

Obviously some people are in for it because its mana, you cant divorce him from the brand's look but the idea of you are paying for just the name is overstated a lot by people who just dont know fashion enough to get the subtle things.

[Anonymous No.10697736]

>>10697660
That genuinely LOOKS like clolita. Those bottom ruffles have never looked good and along with it being like a trademark of clolita. Also having those lazy poof sleeves or shoulderless tops. Like what really makes this brand stand out? Look at japanese brands, they all have a trademark style. All clolita copies each other, does the same patterns, they all look the same and the prints and patterns are usually cluster fucked. Bad color palette choice, etc.

[Anonymous No.10697742]

>>10697736
yeah it's the washed out colors, off the shoulder sleeves, boring as fuck bodice, and ugly bottom lace for me. look at this and tell me you could coord it with anything else except what's in this set? it's just hideous. all clolita feels like shitty halloween costumes, and this one is no different.

[Anonymous No.10697747]

>>10697742
Yeah, I will never understand why they always do these ugly colors. Like it's pretty obviously not cute and could be easily changed

[Anonymous No.10697748]

>>10697736
>>10697742
Thanks guys it helps me with my taste radar. It makes sense and i always did think the gloves look like shit. And the sleeves are strange too.
So i actually already bought picrel for casual wear . and i don’t think this one looks bad IF i toss the waist ribbon, replace with a black one and the straps with black ones too.
I like the goth jesus print that’s all. Or is my taste still bad even with those changes haha

[Anonymous No.10697763]

>>10697660
>they even did a collab with moi meme moitie. And wunderwelt stocks them.
WW and MMM are under Tanaqro, a Chinese owned company. Of course they stock some Chinese brands.

[Anonymous No.10697782]

How long do I have to wear lolita to stop being a LARPer?

[Anonymous No.10697818]

>>10697736
i like some krad lanrete prints but not really for lolita

[Anonymous No.10697845]

>>10697734
i wouldn't say so, i'm just a beginner lolita lol. i like looking at a lot of ap's sweet prints but i don't think i'll ever own or wear any myself if that makes any sense. i can only justify spending hundreds of dollars on a dress that i can actually see myself wearing and enjoying. personally i would like to wear classic or gothic the most

i don't know if i'm just not well versed enough in fashion to tell how well made something is through the typical stock photos that brands provide, and i've never been able to see or feel something from mmm in real life yet. i really wish i could actually go to their stores and see their products irl.

[Anonymous No.10697849]

>>10697660
Every single krad lanrete dress I've seen has been lazily constructed, busy, fugly, textbook clolita.

[Anonymous No.10697852]

>>10697849
Goes to show that the majority of people defending clolita on here are probably just newbs or strictly only buy clolita.

I don't know why we ever really slacked on quality like this, because even in the early days of clolita becoming available people were praising the quality and they all still had SERIOUS QA issues. But there were some 'good' things and it was cheap.


Now it's not cheap.

[Anonymous No.10697860]

>>10697849
Krad Lanrete has several prints I love and own, but they'd all be better as like wall posters or something. The actual garments are crap and the prints are too busy to look good, just like most clolita.

[Anonymous No.10697931]

>>10697660
I'm so sick of these fucking off the shoulder blouses made from the cheapest looking thin polyester

[Anonymous No.10697934]

is neokyo good for mercari?

[Anonymous No.10698088]

I need some kind of matching headwear for sugary carnival in black and missed out on the mto head bow. Where can i find something for it?
I have been looking on LM and mercari and no luck.
Something black with pastel pink or lavender i think?

[Anonymous No.10698091]

>>10698088
why not just look for any ap sweet print in black? obviously it wont match perfectly but if you're only looking for a black headpiece with pastels mixed in, i can only imagine headbows for that. Unless ur fine with some cheap accessorized headband from taobao or aliexpress, though im sure its still okay as long as it color matches

[Anonymous No.10698093]

>>10698091
I was worried if it’s a different print that it wouldn’t go with it..but that’s a good idea i will do that!
No i don’t want cheap stuff, i want something nice and i just really wanted to be able to wear my SC finally ;_;

[Anonymous No.10698094]

>>10698093
dw too much about it anon! desu as long as your headpiece doesnt have disgustingly cheap lace and it mostly color matches, im sure it'll be fine. if it makes you feel better, i have SC in black and i dont wear the headbow. i make do with just a simple headdress.

[Anonymous No.10698157]

For garments that have a lot of tiny bows, is there a way to secure them so they don't come constantly undone? I'm talking small ribbon bows.

[Anonymous No.10698182]

>>10698157
Ever heard of sewing

[Anonymous No.10698186]

Are taoba dresses worth it? I found a dress I like thru devil inspired, but I am not sure if its worth.

[Anonymous No.10698189]

>>10698186
Go to hell

[Anonymous No.10698191]

How long does it usually take for MK to send invoices for shipping? It's been 6 days since I submitted the shipping form, and it took 4 days last time. I don't want to rush her since I'm sure she's busy but maybe I'll ask about it in a few days

[Anonymous No.10698215]

>>10698189
What a welcoming community. Thanks for the advice fag

[Anonymous No.10698224]

>>10698186
if you really like it, sure. but the quality is usually shit for the price esp when through devilinspired

[Anonymous No.10698227]

>>10698224
>>10698224
I used devil as catalogue. I have eyes aimed at some AP and Baby too

[Anonymous No.10698237]

How or where do you buy shoes?

[Anonymous No.10698276]

what's the max you guys would pay for 2nd hand liz lisa etc? found a dress i've been looking for but its £30 ehh

[Anonymous No.10698333]

Does anyone have experience with the bay area comm? I might be moving there but it seems not active, even though it has so many members. My current comm has about 1 events a week so I don’t know if I would move somewhere without that

[Anonymous No.10698335]

>>10698237
What kind of shoes? What style lolita or jfash? Budget?

>>10698276
Honestly $10 because i only wear it to work. Have you looked on closet child they have a lot of cheap liz lisa

[Anonymous No.10698348]

would i be bullied if I started a landmine/jirai kei thread on here?

[Anonymous No.10698366]

>>10698348
It's a meme at this point, nobody in the west genuinely likes jirai-kei, and it's also about to die in japan anytime soon

[Anonymous No.10698369]

>>10698335
yeah i've noticed even cc are overpricing stuff now though

[Anonymous No.10698370]

>>10698366
I like it. Better than western fashion. What's the problem?

[Anonymous No.10698379]

>>10695744
The word you’re looking for is passcase, and most brands sell them from time to time.

[Anonymous No.10698381]

>>10698369
Lol they do for a lot of things but it’s still cheap to buy liz lisa from cc considering there is no SS fee or shipping fee to the warehouse. did you even check the prices? They still have $10 liz lisa dresses

[Anonymous No.10698444]

Is there a taobao shop that still makes these specific Bodyline shoes?

[Anonymous No.10698716]

Does anyone else keep getting blocked-for-phishing popups on their antivirus when trying to use closetchild now, or is it just my malwarebytes being a mess? Only happens for CC so I'm just wondering.

[Anonymous No.10698735]

when wearing a graphic t-shirt with a pleated skirt.

larger shirt or smaller?

[Anonymous No.10698795]

>>10698735
usually I’d go with larger. most pleated skirts are short and fitted at the waist so it “balances out” the outfit to wear a looser fitting top. or if i wear a tight top then i wear a loose fitting cardigan or hoodie over.