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Dumping what I've got

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>> No.6797030

>>6797019
>>6797015
>>6797016
>>6796982

hnnnnngg. i like well dressed men with good looks. not so interested in half naked men.

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>> No.6797049

The muscle guys are nice, but I prefer skinny cute guys like >>6797022
More like him?

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>>6797049

My folder is terribly low on skinny cute guys right now, I'll have to seek out some

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>> No.6797079

>>6797074
no.

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>>6797020
no

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>>6797079

Why not?

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>> No.6797120

>>6797111
that hulk
> why

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That's it for now bros, taking a break. Peace out.

>> No.6797175

>>6797028
He looks like a 12 year old, that's disgusting

>> No.6797178

>>6797104
No

>>6797132
I'm just going to pretend that his sexy-ass isn't shopped.

>>6797165
Hnnnnnng, the two guys in this photo, particularly red-hair. Sorry I have nothing to contribute, ladies.

>> No.6797191

>>6797175
>Implying I'm not into shotacon
Ha! Ha! Ha!

>> No.6797194

>>6797136
I legitimately thought this was my boyfriend at first glance. Turns out I was wrong, though. Sideburns are the wrong color.

Also, hot!

>> No.6797195 [DELETED] 

>>6797166
>That's it for now bros
Confirmed faggot thread / supported by tumblr femnazis who do this just to pretend females actually fap to any of these pics.

>in b4 some tryhard saying "im female and i fapd xD"
You're not female unless your a tripfag.

>> No.6797197

>>6797054
sick drawn-on abs

>> No.6797198

>>6797020
pls no. get out.

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>>6797195
I did not fap although i am female because i do not masturbate to scantily-clad muscly men.

what kind of girl actually does that?

>> No.6797213 [DELETED] 

>>6797210
>what kind of girl actually does that?
Exactly none. As I said this thread only exists because it's created by cancer SJW from tumblr who want to pretend women can as worthless losers as man can be.

No they don't. Women never fall as low as the neckbeard fedora wearing virgin.

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>>6797165
red hair is indeed cute. the cuter of the three imho.
>>6797178
here's more Kaname for you all.

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>>6797213
well

I can bet that there are plenty of girls who sink well below the fedora-wearing neckbeards. Hypothetically speaking of course.

>> No.6797219

>>6797081
Mmm, hairy men, my favorite.

>> No.6797227

>>6797214
>>6797210
You're making me so happy by posting these pics.

Moar of Cloud oh god hngh.

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>>6797227
ok

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>>6797165
>>6797178
>>6797214
That red head swimming anime guy is Mika who used to trip on here. Not sure if he still does or not, but he is HHNNNNGGG.
Pic related.

>> No.6797281

>>6797210
>>6797213
You people need to get out more. What's so bad about fapping?

>> No.6797328

>>6797165
moar pictures of him.

He has a beautiful face.

Is he half Asian or full?

captcha: spanairds mestinur

why yes he does kind of look like a Spaniard captcha~

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Holy shit if you asshats shit this thread up with any sort of sjw or anti-sjw faggotry I will find you all and defecate into your mouths.

Just post hot dudes. No one gives a shit if you fap or not.

>> No.6797367

>>6797339
His face is a nose.
His whole face is a nose.

>> No.6797368

>>6797339
>Fap Thread
>No one gives a shit if you fap or not.

Well at least we know who's OP - it's this fugly Chink harlot right here. Are you going to cry, you little bitch?

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>> No.6797510

Could I politely request more suits/uniforms? There's something really hot about good tailoring.

>> No.6797514

>>6797506
This is a real dude, right? Please god let this be a real dude.

>> No.6797527

>>6797514
Real dude, thank god: http://lost-happy-soul.deviantart.com/art/Germany-328951898

>>6797510
Agree

>> No.6797528

>>6797514
its a ftm

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>> No.6797533

>>6797528
;_;

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Do they even lift?

>> No.6797556

>>6797531
>>6797532
>>6797534
>>6797537
>Male edition
>Male cosplays

Way to miss the point

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>>6797368
Yes, because you didn't post shit you little faggot.

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>>6797560
Suck my dick you slant eyed cunt.

Here's some shit for you.

>> No.6797657

>>6797086
a real life flynn rider. hnnnnnng

>> No.6797709

>>6797068
hnnnngh dem eyebrows

>> No.6797749

>>6797034
>dat filename

made me almost rage, i hope its a trolling attempt and that you don't think this isn't a GI Joe cosplay

>> No.6797753

>>6797749
i guess i did rage because i meant "you don't think this IS a GI Joe Cospplay"

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>> No.6797911

>>6797068
sexy

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>> No.6798000

what the fuck are you doing

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>> No.6798009

Can we just have hot cosplayer thread from now on? I just like looking at good looking people in costume.

>> No.6798080

NO, we cannot have a fucking "general" "hot cosplay" thread. You -could- just go make your own. i'm so sick of seeing cosplay girl threads elswhere i could scream and rip the arms off of every stuffed animal currently surrounding me. so, pussy...GTFO of my motherfucking male-edition fap thread. Please and thank you~.

>> No.6798120

>>6798080
Shut the fuck up, bitch.

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>>6797024
>every fucking time
ridiculously hot

anyway, have some Mihawk

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>>6797506
And here I thought this Russia was the only good looking guy in Hetalia.

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>>6798080
Fapping is what men do, so as far as I'm concerned this is a thread for male interests.

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>> No.6798192

>>6797077
Hottest ones here.

>> No.6798196

>>6797139
>"Sh-shut up, I know I lost the bet! Quit shoving the maid outfit in my face!"

>> No.6798198 [DELETED] 

>>6798192
>That's me

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>>6797510
I have this. Doubt it's an actual cosplay though.

and incoming shitstorm in 3..2...

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>> No.6798221

as if women don't masterbate.
lol.
not everything is male-oriented, neckbeards. 'specially when you're smack dab in the middle of a board halfway dedicated to frilly dresses.
Women besides, good thread.

>> No.6798287

>>6798181
This is a thread which was specifically introduced as "fapping male edition" as in fapping to male pictures. For once that there is one, can't you just leave it alone. A fapping thread with female pictures is more than common. Go there or start a new one.

>> No.6798294

>>6797195
>implying we care about what you think is true or not

Your opinions won't change the facts, why even open the thread if it rustles your jimmies to think that females might have a certain sex drive.

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TMI time

I honestly have a hard time fapping to cosplayers or characters for that matter, particularly if I like or respect the character.

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>>6798287
Impossible for a woman to fap, so that makes no sense.

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>>6798314
her stomach is grossing me out, what is going on with the texture

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>>6798321
Shut up, cunt.

>> No.6798329

>>6798314
Ugh, that stomach. Also, what's with the armor?

>> No.6798331

>>6798328
come on man don't be like that :(

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>>6798314

Boner kill.

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>>6798329
Go power down a cake, fatso.

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>>6797100
.... hnnnng

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>> No.6798350

female cosplays
groce

>> No.6798353

>>6798347
>>6798346
>>6798341
>>6798340
>>6798338
>>6798336
>>6798332
>>6798328
>>6798314
>>6798313
>>6798307
>>6798301
no

>> No.6798354

>>6798080

Every fap thread that anyone makes that this point is going to be spammed with either dude or chicks to piss off OP. Why not get the sand out of your vagina and seek to find a happier medium because it's never gonna happen your way on this board.

>> No.6798358

troll harder

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>>6798354
>Fap; The sound produced when a man masturbates, related to the thumping noise resounding from the hand hitting the base of the penis.

Fap threads are for men. Welcome to the internet.

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>> No.6798412

Remember, images that have nothing to do with the thread's topic and are posted repeatedly in a trolling manner are spam. Report them [all] and move on and hopefully our janitor will do their job and clean up the thread and possibly ban our little friend here.

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>> No.6798418

>>6798398
Fap=masturbate
Schlick is an idiotic term and nobody uses it. Nobody even makes that sound anyway.

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>>6798181
You're being more obstinate than trolls on any other board I've been to. Fucking hell.

>> No.6798431

>>6798202
what's wrong with it?

>> No.6798437

>>6798431
It's a nazi uniform.

What I want to know is the drama on
>>6797020
him

>> No.6798444

>>6797213
The thing is, we may think about some of these men later when we're actually fapping. Also, there's nothing wrong with enjoying eye candy without fapping.

>>6797510
Also, this.

>>6798202
...Hnnng.

Also, as someone who is bi, I'm okay with the pictures of females in this thread. Save me from having to swap back and forth.

>> No.6798447

>>6798437
I don't believe there's any drama, the avengers/loki random just has a terrible reputation.

>> No.6798461

>>6798398
>"YOU CAN'T WEAR BLUE, THAT'S A BOY COLOR."

Fuck you, we're going to call it fapping whether you like it or not.

>> No.6798469

>>6797195
go back to /b/ mad bro

>> No.6798479

>>6797510
this

>> No.6798490

>>6798181
>"bawwww I dernt like the fact their posting only males in a fap thread, herp derp im not into guys , huuur let me post some girls, I fap to girl, girl must fap to girl as well hyuck hyuck"

you post in a female dom board you gonna be made a fool mate.go back to /b/,/v/ /othermalebasedboard/ where it's safe and get mad some more with your bros.

>> No.6798493

>>6798301
1/10 for making me smirk at your stupidity

>> No.6798494

>>6798447
Please specify on that I haven't heard about this reputation.

>> No.6798495

>>6797115
b-but dats Doctor Fate...

>> No.6798769

>>6798202
Unf. Thank you.

>> No.6798792

>>6798398
First off, men can masturbate to men. It's not THAT uncommon. Fap thread - male edition still works.

Second, I'm guessing you've never heard a woman furiously masturbate. The sound of palm hitting vulva certainly can and does make a fapping noise. Hard for some of us to do, since nails becme an issue at high speeds, but it happens.

In conclusion, suck it.

>> No.6798797

ITT: Crying neckbeard spams a perfectly good thread with bullshit

>> No.6798986

So. Now that the thread has been cleaned up (thank you glorious janitor!) I'd like to request some more men in suits/uniforms?

>> No.6799026

>>6798986
seconded!

>> No.6799071

>>6798986
yess

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>>6799079

>> No.6799086

>>6799079
S-s-s-seiya!

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>>6799083
only one i got that uniform-ish.

>> No.6799104

>>6799079
The ponytail is ruining it for me, it looks like a bunch of shower drain hair was woven together and tossed on his shoulder as a prank

>> No.6799128

>>6798495
No, that's Nova. It's an easy mistake to make from the thumbnail though.

>> No.6800651

>>6798333
>>6798168
>>6797165
>>6797153
>>6797143

What's up with this weird triangle shaped muscle near their dick? How the fuck do you even build muscle there.

>> No.6800676

>>6800651
That's called an Adonis belt and I think it comes with the abs.

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>> No.6800693

Ah, the human experience in all it's infinite majesty. I'm enjoying this, it's like another world (to learn about).

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>> No.6800791

>>6800651
obliques
work 'em

>> No.6801993

>>6799075
Holy crap, is that a Lestat? He looks great...

>> No.6802242

>>6797081
I just wanna hang out with those guys
this pic makes me ludicrously happy

>> No.6802246

>>6797124
I want to ravish him

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>>6802758
jeff pls go

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>>6802750

zyzz iznt cosplay

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>>6802750

10/10 ideal man.

No homo.

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This is a good rendition of feminism

>> No.6802777 [DELETED] 

/fit/ , pls go

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>>6802777
this kills the /fit/

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>>6802785

rolling for natty dubs

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>>6802791

Where the fuck did my Gooby pic go. Here's to a reroll.

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>>6797049

>but I prefer skinny guys

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>>6802758
This is fucking fantastic spartan cosplay. Jeff can stay as long as he's cosplaying.

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>>6802246

So do I.

Not only is he hot; he could pull off a perfect Blue Swimmer (Nanase Haruka) cosplay from that new swimming anime.

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>>6797124
Hnng. He could have his way all day.

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>>6797080
Holy shit a jack frost that is actually male and not just ina crappy hoodie?

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Still my favorite Auron ever.

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>> No.6803044

fucking DYELs. Jesus Christ, you hipster landwhales have no standards.

>> No.6803059

>>6803044
nigga you came here from /fit/ too?

>> No.6803063

>>6803044
show me better. Or hold men to the same ridiculous standards that women are.

>> No.6803068

>>6796984
10/10 would cuddle

dont judge me

>> No.6803076

>>6803044
of course we don't - we're landwhales

>> No.6803087

>>6803044
>>6803063
What's a, "DYEL?"

>> No.6803099

>>6803087
When faced with the fact that no one cares about gigantic muscles gym rats type "Do you even lift" to assure themselves they haven't just wasted a large amount of their life.

>> No.6803101

>>6803087

Do you even lift.

It's just some /fit/ faggot that's angry that no one pays attention to him. Just ignore him further.

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>>6803063
>not pointing out the most beautiful body on God's green Earth.

>> No.6803108 [DELETED] 

>>6803099
It's just another hobby you nigger.

>> No.6803113

>>6803101
>>6803099
Ah, ok.

Well, from my perspective, a lot of these guys seem pretty hard ripped.

I'd also like to point out that exercise and fitness is its own reward. Some people enjoy it as a hobby.l

Not me though.
I'm a level 29 video game wizard. I'm just a couple weeks away from level 30.

>> No.6803147

>>6803099
Yeh...hitting the gym for 30-40 minutes 3-4 times a week and eating right is all you need for dem dere "gigantic muscles". Keep thinking that lifting weights and hitting the gym is a waste of time though you fat cunt.

>> No.6803153

>>6803147
Personally, I just want my high school 6 pack back.

Whenever I took my shirt off in high school I would get weird looks followed by, "where the hell were you hiding THAT 6 pack?"

Do sit ups help?

>> No.6803161

>>6803153
The 6 pack is all about bodyfat, soon as you go under 15%-12% it starts appearing. Crunches and core exercises just make it a tad more defined, but they're not a encessity.

>> No.6803167

>>6803161
Well in high school I had phys ed and was far more active.
Not particularly surprised.
In fact I used to be a runner.

I used to be able to do the 100m in about 11 seconds.

>> No.6803170

>>6803147
I think what's funny is that every time there's a naked man posted on 4chan you'll have a /fit/ trip fag whining about it.

>> No.6803226

lol

>> No.6803235

>>6797056
I don't know about his body since we can't see any of it, but this guy's eyes, unnnffff....they just really do it for me....

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>> No.6803626 [DELETED] 

Im a lesbian and now offended.

>> No.6803639 [DELETED] 

>>6803626
No you're not.

Go to the fap thread with images of women in it. Go fuck yourself over there. Problem solved.

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>>6803639
You mean the threads that are constantly spammed with men out of spite from women who don't want to accept male sexuality?

Cool double standard.

>> No.6803747

>>6797134
Can someone please tell me who this cosplayer is?

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>>6803753
if you're gonna post girls pls make them hot at least

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>>6796984
This guy is so cute!

I love brown Asians!

>> No.6803799 [DELETED] 

>>6803666
>You mean the threads that are constantly spammed with men now because some faggot decided he needed to spam the original fap thread for women and they retaliated?
ftfy

>> No.6805204

>>6797544
That's fucking terrifying.

>> No.6805216

>>6803779
I actually went to high school with him, we were bestfriends for a long while. We still talk but he's all about cosplaying and is always busy