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Last one is autosaging! Let's start it off with one of my favorite lolcows.

>> No.7237051 [DELETED] 
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>> No.7237054
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>> No.7237058

>>7237050
Its like she didn't know whether to be decora or Lolita.

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>>7237058
Decololi is/was a thing though and can work. She just has shit taste.

>> No.7237065
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A whole group of ita's (except for the girl with the parasol).
Does anyone know which comm this is btw?

>> No.7237066

>>7237065
is the girl on the far right... Tempest page??

>> No.7237067 [DELETED] 

i want to fuck you all yes even the ugly and fat ones. And after i cum i want to wipe my dick into your curtain clothes.

>> No.7237073

>>7237050

Isn't that valkyriesummat?
Bitch be cray-cray besides ita.

>> No.7237074

>>7237066
Bingo!

>> No.7237077

>>7237074
must be a pretty old picture! man, they all look so bad

>> No.7237078

>>7237077
Probably, I don't think she even wears lolita anymore.

>> No.7237081

>>7237065
That girl on the left... looks like she would literally jump on anyone's dick who offered.

>> No.7237083

>>7237081
she looks so damn familiar...
>>7237078
yeah she doesn't, so this picture is at least a year... or two years old

>> No.7237145

>>7237065
So many of them look like they're not wearing bras.

>> No.7237173

>>7237065
I beg to differ, she ain't wearing a blouse.

>> No.7237176
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Her bodyline dress finally came!
SO RORI!

>> No.7237177

>>7237176
Well it's not the most terrible thing ever? Just plain and blackxred is such a hard combo for a newbie to pull off well. Eh I don't hate it

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>>7237177
Well it's just that she finally makes an order from bodyline (after like a year or two) and it's not even from the lolita section of the store.

>> No.7237183

>>7237176
>>7237177
That dress is such a mess, I don't see anyone being able to make it work. Dresses like these are the reason I always warn newbies about Bodyline; when you haven't developed a feel for the fashion yet, it's easy to buy something that's just a big mess you're going to regret.

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Why? Just WHY?

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>> No.7237190

>>7237065
Girl with a parasol seems lonely.... and I know that feel erry'day :(

>> No.7237191

>>7237183
Yeah, I try to steer newbies away from F+F and BL, but they never seem to want to listen. I guess because taobao is intimidating, and indie brands tend to be more expensive than they're willing to go, but that also leaves secondhand brand... It seems most ita newbs these days want to either make it themselves out of cupcake print quilting cotton and rickrack, or buy something from Bodyline's separates sections. I don't even know where their idea of "lolita" is stemming from, it's like they're stuck in the late 90's stylistically, but most of them didn't even hear about the fashion until this year.

>> No.7237194

>>7237191
Well i doubt most of them seen it the first time from a well dressed lolita but very most likely either from
a. anime
b. browsing online at cosplay/anime store

>> No.7237195

>>7237050
Fuck. I just got this dress.

>> No.7237199

>>7237179

I don't understand, with the right outfit she could look so cute!
She understands the basics but then does everything wrong that can be done wrong. What a waste.

>> No.7237200

>>7237185

??
What is that red thing OVER the JSK? A top? Some kind of corset? Why...?

>> No.7237204

>>7237050
The shrek make up really pulls this outfit together.

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>> No.7237208

>>7237179
It's like she used an ita checklist. All she's missing are striped socks.

>>7237187
Aw, she's going for oldschool. Sure she failed, but aww. She looks cute in a derpy way.

>> No.7237210

>>7237209
That bodice looks like it's about to blow

>> No.7237213

>>7237200
It's a corset over the JSK, god knows why it's there though.

>> No.7237215

>>7237209
Hooooooooly shit!

>> No.7237216

>>7237179
>>7237183
Ah OK I am seeing the tacky details now. I just thought it was a plain black jsk with a tiered skirt portion. I'm not familiar with BL aside from their shoes.

Those terrible studs along the neckline blah

>> No.7237218

>>7237209

Filename sums it up. Also, dat hair. Makes her look like a clown...

>> No.7237220

>>7237195
That's okay anon, it's a lovely dress when you can make it work. Unless you got it in yellow, then forget it.

>> No.7237222

>>7237220
Nah I got it in black exactly like OP. Well at least I know how not to coord it.

>> No.7237229

>>7237065
Rochester comm.

And yes that is meow_tan. Although this must be an old picture. This is before she gained weight and started doing crazy clown wigs.

Her style isn't lolita anymore. It seems she's taken to the shaved eyebrows/tumblrite look. I think the only reason she's even remotely involved is because of her mom goading her into continuing that overpriced lolita hack shop she has.

>> No.7237235

>>7237229

Pics?

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>>7237235
Most recent.
Doesn't seem she's taken a picture of herself in lolita since October.

>> No.7237266

>>7237265
god she's so gross now. And she's got the crazy SJW thing going on to boot. I know people disliked her way back when but at least she was cute to look at and she was young so she had an excuse for her behavior.

>> No.7237268

>>7237266
Well, best to get the gross phase out before you hit your early 20s when people expect you to be classier. I myself wasn't really good at being self-aware until I was almost 21.

>> No.7237282

>>7237265

Wow, what the fuck is going on in that pictue?
Also, these leg warmers... Why do people still think they are a good idea??

>> No.7237291

>>7237265
I think the green wig looks gorgeous on her and her bow and necklace is adorable
The rest is really awful though

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>> No.7237325

>>7237185
I dislike the color combination and of course she needs hair and makeup, but I actually like the corset over the jsk.

>> No.7237332

>>7237185
why would anyone cover up the bodice of this jsk, it's the cutest part! and don't get me started on the color combination

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>>7237065

>> No.7237350

>>7237213
its the shittiest corset ive ever seen. looks like its waaay too far pulled up, oh god.

>> No.7237357

>>7237191
Depends on the newbie. I've seen newbies who have no problems choosing proper things, or take some time to do a little research. You just have to know what won't look awkward, and what looks like something from an anime that doesn't translate well into real life (some of BL's stuff and some oddball older items on F+F) Bodyline's fine for a beginner as long as they take the time to learn. Keep in mind that a 13 year old newb may be quite a bit different than a 28 year old newb.

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>>7237341
Never fear meow_tan, your future wig powers will save us all~

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>>7237350
>>7237213
looks like 18th century-style stays to me.

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so rori

>> No.7237398

>>7237065
The one of the far left has some seriously wasted rockabilly chick hair...

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>>7237065

I thought the girl on the far right looked okay, until I realized she was wearing rainbow-coloured butterfly wings from a kid's costume. Wtf

>> No.7237521

>>7237387
iellwen?

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>> No.7237576

>>7237560

"Huh, the girl's outfit isn't that bd - OH GOD the person on the left what the fuck"

>> No.7237582

>>7237576
>>7237560
Fedora lolita
it's finally happened

>> No.7237585

>>7237582
To be fair that is a man.

Won't be official until it's a girl

>> No.7237592

>>7237585

"You ignorant fuck, how can you assume that person identifies as a man?? Maybe they identify as a woman?! OMG just shut up and die!!!"

>> No.7237598

>>7237560
Mr. Yan and Novala Takemoto's gothic lovechild.

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>>7237582
>Fedora lolita
>it finally happened

NO

Shut up, this outfit is nowhere near Lolita, and Fedora-Loli will never happen. NEVER. Please. Let me have some faith in humanity.

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>> No.7237637

>>7237632
Not a bad coord, just fat.
Learn the difference between an ita and a fatty-chan, anon

>> No.7237640

>>7237637
>no wig
>frizzy hair
>that bag

I'm not the person who posted her, but...

>> No.7237641

>>7237173
No blouse=/=ita

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>> No.7237647

>>7237282
She is a raver now and there is worse shit at raves.

>> No.7237648

>>7237357
hence why I said "ita newbs" and not "all newbies".

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>> No.7237654

>>7237640
>durr natural hair makes somebody ita

>> No.7237657

>>7237654
Unstyled hair does.

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>> No.7237663

>>7237653

isnt that the steampunk-fail girl?

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>> No.7237676

>>7237662
hmmmm
i'd say. different blouse/cutsew, some tights and better gloves/hair/makeup and she would be fine. A least her colors match... And she has a purse so at least she is trying :3c

>> No.7237690

>>7237653
I think it's funny that I don't even recognize her by her face, but by the fact she's always wearing spats.

>> No.7237706

>>7237657
I don't see any problems with her hair, it actually looks styled.

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Fresh from the happy stories thread. Had to preserve it before the janitor cleans that one up.

>> No.7237723

>>7237653
I rage everytime I see this girl, I can't help it. GOD.

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>>7237714
Lmaooooo, this comm is a wreck.

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dumping my favorite lolcow, ipukekawaii

>has a brand called "indian pussy"
>often wears sneakers with her dresses
>likes to stick everything and anything into her godawful hair

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>>7237746

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>>7237747

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>>7237749

>> No.7237755

>>7237050
This girl is in my comm. I seriously think she has the ugliest face and doesnt fit lolita at all

>> No.7237758

>>7237755
I think if someone dressed her up nicely in classic she'd look rather pretty.

>> No.7237759

>>7237061
Whatever happened to this girl? Is she still around? I haven't seen anything from her in a while.

>> No.7237771

>>7237669
>"The bust doesn't fit me."
Mmmhm. That's what I used to tell myself when I was a fat kid.

>> No.7237774

>>7237746
>>7237747
This girl is in my comm. She doesn't have the best outfits, but she is improving.
I feel bad whenever she gets posted in these threads. She's really sweet and does so much for our comm.

>> No.7237775

>>7237755
She isn't ugly, but she doesn't have a cutesy face. She has strong features. I bet she would look nice in classic or gothic.

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>>7237774
isn't this girl in you're comm too?
the
"I'm a strong sjw who don't need no petticoat" girl?

>> No.7237778

>>7237774
Do something for her in return by teaching her how to dress.

>> No.7237784

>>7237759
She's still around, but school has kept her pretty busy, along with travelling a good bit. Her outfits are still incredibly beautiful, and it's good to see that she hasn't lost her creativity.

>> No.7237801

>>7237755
>>7237758
I agree, she'd look wonderful in a classic outfit.

>> No.7237804

>>7237747
>I find this really cute.

I mean honestly, it could be sooo much worse. I love black people who wear light wigs, they look so adorable.

>> No.7237806

>>7237755
>ugliest face

I think you're just bitter because she's ita.

>> No.7237826

>>7237647
Newbie ravers are the worst...

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>> No.7237835

>>7237291
>dat taste in wigs/accessories
>thinking spoilers work on /cgl/

bye

>> No.7237841

>>7237297
They look like they just got caught committing a crime.

>> No.7237854

>>7237297
They look like they've seen some shit. Or finally took a glance at a mirror.

>> No.7237872

>>7237632
I don't know why, but the dinosaur made me laugh out loud. He looks like he's poking his head around the corner.

>> No.7237893

>>7237834
My eyes actually physically hurt.

>> No.7237894

>>7237632
I like the picture of the dinosaur next to her. It's like she's twinning!

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>> No.7237905

>>7237297
crotch chain

>> No.7237907

>>7237893
>>7237834
that isn't lolita those look like idols are you fucking kidding me

>> No.7237909

>>7237714

This is really funny.
But I don't think you non-Jews understand how hard it is to keep a Jewfro styled.
Like
Seriously.
Any humidity at all and even freeze spray won't keep it all together.

I wear wigs most of the time, but there are pictures of me after a few hours with my natural hair where it's decided it isn't taking my shit anymore.
I use so much coconut oil.
Having a Jewfro makes everything so hard.

When I'm in my non-loli clothing I just wear a bandana or a hat and look like I've given up on life.

>> No.7237920

>>7237640
She should've taken the bag off for the photo but that doesn't make her ita; it doesn't look like it's part of her outfit. Also, there's no problem with natural hair if done well and most wigs look like shit.

That said, her hair looks awful and she's a fucking planet who didn't dress for her body. She might not be "ita" but she doesn't look good.

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This artsylaurie chick is a goldmine so far photowise, and she's been giving advice to noobs.

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>>7237907
what are you talking about snsd r totally rori!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>7237922
Another one of her at a tea party. Bonus Ichabod Crane at the far right in pleather leggings.

>> No.7237934

>>7237714
I love you and whoever made this.

>> No.7237946

>>7237834
Those are costumes, and not even remotely lolita. They're a k-pop group called Girls' Generation.

>> No.7237947

>>7237872
To me, it looks like the dinosaur is photobombing her.

>> No.7237948

>>7237376
that makes sense. i thought it was just an underbust she pulled too far up. terrifying.

>> No.7237951

>>7237500
omfg

>> No.7237957

>>7237922
Oh my god she is the worst. She's in my local comm and posted this photo of herself back in October to show off her first "coord" that she wore out to sushi and basically brushed off all of the constructive criticism we offered her. That hat seems to be requisite in every "coord" she devises. And that god. damned. turtleneck.

At least this time it looks like she got plain tights instead of wearing ribbed, falling-down socks.

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>>7237957
Dropped my pic, whoops.
And apparently one of the waitresses complimenting her hat means that it's 100% A-O.K. and she is/was planning to incorporate this skirt/blouse into her wedding outfit. ???

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>>7237582
This is fedora lolita. Sorry for the terrible quality.

>> No.7237965

>>7237962
Oh. My. God.

>> No.7237987

>>7237834
Before anyone else bitches, this was probably an accidental cross-post from another board. That has been happening lately.

>> No.7237995

>>7237962
shut it down.

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>>7237960
That *was* her wedding outfit. Not even kidding.

I love her friend on the right just counting down the minutes until she can rip that thing off her head and get the fuck outta there.

>> No.7238000

>>7237998
Oh my christ it actually happened. Bless you for informing me, anon.

>> No.7238007

>>7237998
meh, it's a weird outfit, but if it made her feel special on her wedding day, then good for her.

>> No.7238008

>>7237962
The amount of smug in this picture is terrifying.

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>>7237998
>>7237962

>you will never experience love that true and honest

>> No.7238015

>>7238010
A high school romance led to us speculating about what our wedding would be like. He'd cosplay as Edward Elric and I'd be my FMA self-insert OC. It was going to be majestic.

There is no love like weeaboo love, anon.

>> No.7238027

>>7238015
>here is no love like weeaboo love, anon.
>except when you can't even find that
>shoot me now.

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My local comm has a ton of itas lately. They're all just new to the fashion. So painfully new.
I'm afraid if I posted one of them someone on my comm would know it was me.

>> No.7238036

>>7238028
I feel like Nicole is gradually getting more sensible as time goes on. Nothing of hers is great by any means, but I feel like she's growing slightly above the Bodyline ita phase.
I used to think she was one of those stuck up itas, but I actually did get a chance to talk a bit with her and she is pretty normal.

>> No.7238039

>>7237173
Many people do if it's too hot.

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>>7237065
>>7238028
OH. I thought I recognized that girl. She switches between rochester/buffalo comms a lot. I don't do lolita since I'm a cosplayer, but I'm friends with a few of them on my facebook. Pic related.

From my perspective her outfits aren't great, but with a few tweaks here and there she could have something. Buffalo comm has a few good plus size lolitas too.

>> No.7238042

>>7238040
WHO IS THAT GODDESS IN PHANTOM MERRY-GO-ROUND

>> No.7238045

>>7238042
Sorry anon, I have no idea. I'm only familiar with the people to the middle-left of the group.

>> No.7238050

>>7238040
Those three girls on the right all look great. The left side of the group is lookin like no-man's land.
Shit, that was a really bad accidental pun. I'm keeping it, though.

>> No.7238054

>>7238040
I... I thought the one in the middle wasn't wearing a skirt at all at first glance.

>> No.7238059

>>7238040
>dat Vierge Vampur print
I'm a little jelly...
Also I like that group dynamic. It's like all the itas and well dressed lolitas separated like oil and water lol.

>> No.7238071

>>7237784
I miss seeing her outfits. I want to see new outfits she's put together. Still to this day when I put together outfits I think "would Mintymix wear this".

>> No.7238098

>>7238071
So do I anon, so do I.

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>>7238045
I've been waiting for an excuse to use this.

>> No.7238111

>>7237669
>>7237771
She doesn't even look big at all by her arms/neck/face, how the hell is that an XL...? Juniors XL?

>> No.7238123

>>7237909
Yeah... Either wigs, hats or hair up in a tight style. Leaving hair down is basically impossible.

>> No.7238139

>>7237362
I want that wig.

>> No.7238144

>>7237749
>>7237754
oh no i want it

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7238213

>>7238071
>>7238098
These are some of her latest outfits. Sorry to kinda derail the ita thread with this.

>> No.7238225
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7238225

>>7238213
Should've said "more recent", not "latest", in the last post. All of these are from this year, though.

>> No.7238231

>>7238213
>>7238225
Oh god she's adorable.

>> No.7238234

>>7238225
>>7238213
Augh, she's such an inspiration to me
One time at a con she called out to me from her AA table and said my coord was cute, I melted into a puddle and had to be mopped off of the floor
Sage because not ita.

>> No.7238237

>>7238213
>>7238225
whats her tumblr?

>> No.7238245

>>7238040
That ita shit in my dureamo Vierge Vampur.

I've been saving for it for ages, but everything keeps happening to drain my savings.

I will have you some day, my love.

>> No.7238246

>>7238225
Arghhh, I miss Minty-Mix. Yeah, all her rings and things I ever bought from her broke off the bases, but she was the cutest human, and eh, that's what E6000's for. God, she's cute. Has she got a Tumblr now?

>> No.7238249

>>7238237
>>7238246
As far as I know, she doesn't have a Tumblr.

>> No.7238252

>>7238213
>>7238225
Thank you for these! Cute like always.
I love her Merry Making Party outfit. And I just got a pair of white stripe tights like that too.

>>7238237
I don't think she has one. At least she didn't the last time I looked into it.

>> No.7238253

>>7238249
blog then?
where does she post these things?

>> No.7238257

>>7238253
She has a flickr, but it seems to be really spaced out on when she puts photos on it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohchalua/

She also has two Facebooks, but one is personal and friend locked, and the other is more a Facebook for her store so no photos of her on it.

>> No.7238258

>>7238015
thank you for sharing this

>> No.7238260

>>7238252
Sure! It's a shame she doesn't post often, so I try to save pictures when I see them popping up or when I can get a picture of her myself. She's always been a huge fashion inspiration for me, even to this day, and I really love that she seems to be just as enthusiastic about lolita as she was when I met her at a con years ago.

>>7238253
I think she has a Flickr account still, but I don't know how often she updates that. A friend of mine shared these with me over Skype when we were talking about lolita a while ago, so I don't know the source.

>> No.7238286

>>7237754
This doesn't look bad...

>> No.7238434
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>> No.7238435

>>7238434

Is this... really meant to be Lolita...?

>> No.7238440
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7238440

>go to any cosplay site
>type in lolita

oh god my eyes

pulled this off of ac paradice

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7238443

>>7238440

>> No.7238456

>>7237637
its bad because she didnt actually pick a dress her size so it looks revolting...

>> No.7238468

>>7237755
Is she as rude and self righteous in person as she is online?

>> No.7238475

>>7237657
>Unstyled hair makes you ita hurr
No it doesn't! We've had this argument so many times. There's a checklist of things that ruin a coord, a couple of them are:
>Unstyled hair
>Bad colour coordination
>No petti
>No makeup, bad hygiene
>Tacky or outdated anime accessories etc

One or so items from this list make it a bad coord, but you have to actually see the image and feel pain in your retinas for it to be ita.

Some of the last threads had a decent introductory post that wrote out just 'meh' coords, those threads were a lot more interesting.

>> No.7238481

>>7238475

You really have to include ill fitting clothing. Lolita is meant to be flattering at least, and the person here clearly doesn't know what measurements are best for her. Shoving yourself into brand does not guarantee you not being ita. Knowing how you generally fit really should be clothing 101, not just lolita.

>> No.7238482

>>7238040
The girl second from the right, holy shit, she's perfect.

>> No.7238488
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7238488

>>7238481
Ita is for ill coordinated coords.

not fat girls, not ugly girls, not for girls without wigs, not for plain coords

>>7238475
this, I'm sick of having to say this too.

>> No.7238491

>>7238488

Not saying fat girls are ita. I'm saying fat girls who don't know how to into fitting are ita.

>> No.7238500

>>7238482
same man i wanna do her

>> No.7238513

>>7237297
It's like she's cosplaying that comic of the gothic lolita who gets yelled at by her dad. Now I regret not saving it.

>> No.7238518
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7238518

Decided to check up on this lolcow today, and guess who finally posted their "lolita" they got from milanoo? It's sooooo high quality you guys, we were all just being too judgemental!

>> No.7238524

>>7237960
Obviously the waitress is Asian so she knows much more about lolita than the white piggu in your comm, gosh.

>> No.7238528

>>7238518

Is that her kid?? That poor thing...

>> No.7238531

>>7238528
Her kid always looks a little dirty, like smudged with dirt, like she never bathes... Looking at the parents, I just wish I could spirit that child away from them and let her grow up clean and well-cared for by parents who wouldn't show up to a parent-teacher conference in cybergoth dreads or whatever

>> No.7238536

>>7238481
Yeah and what of girls that are just way too tiny to wear certian things? I mean I see plenty of very small Japanese lolitas wearing AP and it hangs off them like a sack. Clearly they must be ita as fuck with that logic.

Also, "not fitting" is more than measurements. Plenty of times you fit well within the listed measurements and it doesn't look right due to the bodice not being cut to accommodate a larger cup (For example, Innocent World). There's boobloaf caused by a dress being too tight, and boobloaf caused by a dress not being cut with enough curve in the bodice, but it will stretch around you fine without risk of damaging it. There are ways to work around it, but I don't consider that ita, so much as needing to invest in proper shapewear/undergarments. Same as say, needing to invest in a better pair of shoes that coordinate better. It's something that can make an outfit not look as great, but it's not ita.

>> No.7238541

>>7238524
>because asians pop out of the womb with full knowledge of lolita

this is what tumblr actually believes.

I would love it if a group of japanese girls got together and said wearing lolita without a petticoat is cultural appropriation.

>> No.7238542

>>7238518
Her and Milanoo deserve each other.

>> No.7238549

>>7238541
No need to drag tumblr into it. This is something itas and weeaboos have always believed. Everything Azn is always superior and Asian people cannot be bad lolitas or bad cosplayers ever because they invented it omg!!1
Some of the biggest itas in my comm are two Chinese girls who refuse to take advice from anyone. They say it's instinctive, that we will never understand the fashion like they do because it's in their heritage. Some of the weebier newbies have latched on to them because they are obviously queens of lolita, despite being severely overweight and wearing ill-fitting shit from Milanoo with skirts that start at crotch-height. I wish I had pictures of them and their little fanclub.

It's bad enough when people idolize the Japanese like this, but when they include EVERYONE from Asia it's just... I'm never going to a Chinese restaurant with them, that's for sure.

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>>7238513
?

>> No.7238587

>>7238518
god she looks like she wants to eat her kid.
That whole family looks like it needs a shower...I hear soap's a lot less expensive than Miladoodoo.

>> No.7238585

>>7238561
>IMMA COUNT TO TEN
Gets me every time.

>> No.7238595

>>7238213
>>7238225
Ahhhh, it's so good to see her again.
I discovered and became interested in lolita fashion because of the wonderful photos that were on her flickr.

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7238598

>>7238040
>fat girls are actually well dressed and the skinnier girls are ita

>> No.7238603

>>7238040
>>7238598
this is just fabulous.

>> No.7238604

>>7238434
To be fair, it's not like that skirt could be helped.

>> No.7238617

>>7237653
Oh, Hildekitten... you never fail to make me facepalm.

>> No.7238625

>>7238617

Wasn't she into this fashion for years and yet has never improved?

>> No.7238627

>>7238246
I have a necklace I bought from her at Momocon in probably 2008 or '09, my first convention, and I still have it and the sticker she gave me. I never wear it, but it always reminds me of her cute ass self. I'm not into sweet at all, but she will always be my favourite lolita.

>> No.7238629

>>7238549
I firmly believe Asian weebs, or just Asians that make a huge fuss about being Asian are the absolute worst.

>> No.7238640
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7238640

Some girl posted a video on the Lolita tag on Tumblr. New Lolita fashion YouTube channel... Joy!

Anyway, the entire video she had her skirt hiked up over her legs, and her blouse was gaping open.

So rori.

>> No.7238647

>>7238640
>pizza
>spaghetti bolognese
>that blouse gap
So rori.

>> No.7238650

>>7238042
Only record of her is a submitted post on gorgeouspluslolita: http://gorgeouspluslolita.tumblr.com/post/63014064745/my-gothic-coord-taken-during-a-tea-riffic-party-atn tumblr:

>> No.7238664

>>7238625
Yup, that's her. She's been posting on egl since 2004. One would think that after nearly a decade of being involved with the fashion, she'd have a better sense of coordination and what is "lolita" vs. what is not, but then again, who am I to judge?

>> No.7238683

>>7238040
the girl second from the right is incredible
like whoa

>> No.7238703

>>7238640
but don't you know Anon that lolita is about ~*creativity, freedom and expressing yourself*~ with none of that restricting modesty and elegance bullshit

>> No.7238716

>>7238040
I love when one girl outshines the rest in a group.

>> No.7238723

>>7238703
Oh right I totally forgot thanks for the reminder.
I guess I'll just wear lolita with my bra straps showing from now on because that'll be totally "unique" and "Comfortable-kawaiii!"

>> No.7238755

>>7238664

I don't think she has the slightest idea.
It doesn't even look like she is wearing a petticoat in this picture...

>> No.7238781

>>7237747

She looks like Myrtle Urkel but that is a definite improvement. I'm so glad she's wearing a wig, and a cute one at that!

If she keeps at it and continues to build her wardrobe, she'll be out of her ita phase by the end of next year.

>> No.7238847

>>7237559
I think... that that's a dude. Nothing against brolita, but when it's done wrong it looks almost silly. Or its just a really bad outfit on a girl with a terrible wig.

>> No.7238852

>>7237727
Some of the girls in this dont look too bad. But for the ones that do... *shudders*

>> No.7238857

>>7238561
is there an entire set of these or is this the only one?

>> No.7238859

>>7238040
mfw the Phantom OP had the same idea for a coord as I did, but I didn't do it 'cause I was afraid of it looking wrong.

Aww yeah. Looks like I'm pulling those tights out after all.

>> No.7238860

>>7238008
She was extremely proud of her outfit while simultaneously very dismissive to every one around.
>I bet these girls don't even know who Rush is.

>> No.7239046

>>7238225
Holy shit.
I met her when she was in D.C. for the Hello Kitty for president thing, before I started dressing in lolita.
She was like a goddess to me that day.

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>> No.7239343

>>7237922
>>7237930
>>7237960
>>7237998
Her description:

"Hi! Just thought I'd introduce myself. ^_^

I'm Laurie. I'm 30 years old (for another month yet!), I have 2 small kids, 4 cats, and the worlds' sweetest Fiance evar! (Seriously, this guy is great and he's ALL MINE! Sorry!) Lol!

I'm an Illustrator, and also finishing my last year at Kendall College of Art and Design to get my BFA in Illustration. Not that a degree is needed to get paid to draw lovely pictures, but going to Kendall was a dream I had since Kindergarten. ^_^

I have a ton of interests, which you can tell from looking at my profile. I'm sure I probably forgot a few things!

I've recently gotten into the Japanese fashion called Lolita. It's cute and frilly, and being a tall lady sometimes I feel I'm missing out on being little and cute. Having a very tall guy helps, I can wear my tallest shoes and still not be taller than him! ^_^ I'm still building a basic wardrobe, but I want to get some pics of what I do have.

Tuesday I got my mini hat I ordered. It's the Fire Balloon Adventure steampunk mini-hat from Fanplusfriend Garden. I wore it to class Wednesday and Thursday, and I got a ton of compliments. I even gave the name of the site to a couple ladies! Maybe I sparked a new lolita or two for my area. ^_^"

those poor kids.

>> No.7239357

>>7237185
I couldactually see this working, if the corsetwas pink and not red.

>> No.7239370

>>7237960
Oh my god, I didn't even see the hat until after reading your comment

>> No.7239447

>>7238531
to be fair, kids tend to get grubby damn fast.

>> No.7239784

>>7239343
Why do people like this reproduce then get into this fashion. Stop. She sounds like an immature teen.

>> No.7239785
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7239785

Sorry for small pic quality, but I'm pretty sure this is Yaya
Is this Wa loli attempt?

>> No.7239841

>>7239785
eh, unless she said she was going for sexy ero wa-loli, i think it's just a fetish outfit.

>> No.7239851

>>7239785
looks more like wa-whory

hahahahahaha

>> No.7239876
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7239876

>>7239343
>^_^
>Not that a degree is needed to get paid to draw lovely pictures
>and he's ALL MINE! Sorry!
>^_^
>and I got a ton of compliments
>sweetest Fiance evar!
>^_^
>I sparked a new lolita or two for my area
>I'm 30 years old
>Lol!
>^_^

>> No.7239883

>>7239785
looks like she's in some production
she is actually Asian you know

>> No.7239884
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7239884

Venus at her romantic dinner with Mr. Yan.

>> No.7239886

>>7237632
>dinosaurs so rori

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>>7237834

>> No.7239890

>>7238213
is that a Halloween pail on the left pic...?

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7239892

>>7237930
>Ichabod Crane

>> No.7239893

>>7239884
mr. yan is adorable, i'd totally fuck him

>> No.7239908

>>7237632
I think she looks really cute, especially her hair. She could have dressed more to fit her body shape imo, but 5/10 average would be friends.

>> No.7239910

>>7239883
I hadn't noticed

>> No.7240036

>>7239883
And her Asian-ness has to do with what?

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>>7239252
>dat cleavage
>dat shiny wigs
>that cheap looking clothes
>holy shit is that green lipstick in the back?

I feel bad for the few girls that actually look decent, who are they?
Why nobody is helping them?

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>>7239252
>dat cleavage
>dat shiny wigs
>that cheap looking clothes
>holy shit is that green lipstick in the back?

I feel bad for the few girls that actually look decent, who are they?
Why nobody is helping them?

>> No.7240216

>>7240213

Because Mexico.

>> No.7240277

>>7240216
B-but Misako visit... them?? Why?!

>> No.7240291

>>7238468
Shes opinionated and strong in her beliefs but isn't one of those 'In going shove my opinions on you' types. In real life and at meets especially, I feel like she gives of a professional air. She does a lot for her comm.

>> No.7240444
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7240444

>>7239876
>>7239343
Found youtube. Fat girl voice + autism + "artistic talent."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKYVIJewvao

Which, by the way, check out lauriekerrart.com for her beautiful artwork that she didn't need a degree for.

>> No.7240449

Just saw this on eBay

>> No.7240453
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>>7240449

(accidentally clicked submit instead of choose file)

>> No.7240474

>>7240453
....are the buttons on bow on the front photoshopped on......?

>> No.7240476
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>> No.7240478

>>7240474
*and bow

>> No.7240518

>>7240474
The buttons sure look it.

>> No.7240520
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>> No.7240529

>>7240520
Always love the ita "bow from my Bodyline piece slapped awkwardly atop my head" look.

>> No.7240532

>>7240476
Add a petticoat and maybe it would look a little more legit. Not terrible though.

>> No.7240536

>>7240476
Dat hair. What is going on with it

>> No.7240542

>>7240474
I'm pretty sure I have this dress, except it doesn't have the buttons or bow, so maybe they are photoshopped. But... why? I don't understand the point.

>> No.7240642

>>7240474
Photoshop is too strong a word. Maybe MSPaint...

>> No.7240676

>>7240520
the girl on the bottom looks like lady gaga

>> No.7240721
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7240721

"omg i must look super kawaii next to all these dumb bitches lawl"

>> No.7240737

>>7239884
HER FACE IS BEGGING FOR HELP

>> No.7240738

>>7240721

The vendetta is strong in this one

>> No.7240759

>>7240721
There isn't even a lolita in the picture. I'm guessing you mean the girl in the white tights though since everyone else looks like an average high schooler. You sound like an asshole who is jelly of how cute their friend is.

>> No.7240806

>>7237185
because

>> No.7240828
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>> No.7240831
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>>7240828

>> No.7240844
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7240844

>>7240831

>> No.7240850

>>7239883
What the hell is that even suppose to mean?

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7240855

>>7240476
Looks like Sean Fujiyoshi from Nigahiga

>> No.7240858

>>7240520
They're all such a mess. My god
The girl with the blue hair is especially annoying.

>> No.7240860

>>7237341
waaaaaaaait
am i seeing fairy wings
so much for being the only non-ita in the picture

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7240865

>>7237050
>>7237755
>>7237758
>>7237775
>>7237801
>>7237806

Girls, please. She is wicked witch, wake up.

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7240893

>>7237050
not ita but something from a con where i live.

>> No.7240901

>>7240721
I'm confused. This picture looks like it's from the 90s

>> No.7240902

>>7240893
>fishnets and leather shorts

The fuck

>> No.7240908
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7240908

>>7240893

>> No.7240909

>>7240893
>>7240908
Is this Mexico? She's terrible

>> No.7240910

>>7240902
Leather? Those are just faded denim shorts

>> No.7240912

>>7240910
Still makes absolutely no sense.

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7240915

>>7240909
no, even worse, venezuela
I feel like i'm too white for this bs

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7240922

>>7240915
That's pikachu btw.

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7240925

>>7240922

>> No.7240931

>>7240893
>>7240908
>>7240915
Why are all these photos so grainy? They can't afford good digital cameras there?

>> No.7240936

>>7240925
I think Flan is going to kill them all

>> No.7240945
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7240945

>>7240931
Idk they poor

>> No.7240999

>>7239884
I'm not 100% sure if that's Venus or Margaret. Which reflects badly on both of them.

>> No.7241019

>>7240922
Isb't that supposed to be rosario vampire? It's not that bad.

>> No.7241051

>>7239884
are his teeth... black?

>> No.7241053

>>7241051
Might be from the wine.

Either way, Yan, you nasty.

>> No.7241057

>>7240931
The first two look instagram'd to me

>> No.7241081

>>7239884
Mr. Yan should keep the hat on.

>> No.7241092

>>7241081
Yes he should.

>> No.7241107

>>7240520
I wasn't a part of this meetup, but these are all really nice people. They usually dress better honestly. The girl on the far left is especially nice, and coords very well. I believe that's the first outfit for the girl with the bodyline bow on her head.

>> No.7241140

>>7240476
That is a guy/

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>>7238857
1/3

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>>7238857
2/3

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7241154

>>7238857
3/3

>> No.7241173

>>7241150
Ugh, the rest of them are funny but this one is just so fucking bitter. No one says lolita is about not following rules or the mainstream. When a popular print is released, people go crazy to get their hands on it. And that whole "lolol i bet your skirt isn't even worth $50"!!1!" is lame. People buy their clothes off auctions sites instead of the overpriced shit you see on the comm sales for a reason. Also, I've never heard the term "ita-loli" ever. "Not following the ridiculously precise guidelines for lolita fashion"? What's so hard about it? Why the fuck would anyone wear sneakers with a lolita dress? Sounds like the "ita-loli" in this comic is based off the artist.

>> No.7241176

>>7241154
I love this lol

>> No.7241177

>>7241107
The girl on the left is the only one that doesn't look a mess, tbh.

The girl with the purple punky hair should really wear a wig. Her outfit isn't bad, but the hair really ruins it.

It's really cool hair, but not for lolita.

>> No.7241178

>>7241173
Yeah I never understood this one. It's excusing ita behavior.

>> No.7241209

>>7241173

right, how dare someone wear the clothes they own the way they want to

>> No.7241224

>>7241173
Well she sounds like she has a pretty good grasp of lolita from her comics so I don't think she's the sneaker ita, and they are old comics which is why the slang, ect. is different probably.

>> No.7241227

>>7241209
Hereeeeeeeeeeeeee we go.

>> No.7241236

I find this confusing. Why are 'itas' so maligned? Are people who are into this fashion so deluded that they think itas make them look bad or something?

>> No.7241234

>>7241209

Yeah! My polo shirts and khaki slacks are completely gothic! I'm tired of being told I have to wear black!

>> No.7241239

>>7241234

My 200 dollar piece of asian sweatshop shit makes me a pretty european princess! Stop treating me like a whore!

>> No.7241240

>>7241236
Honestly I'm just a really fucking awful person who likes talking shit about people who wear horrible outfits, and ita threads enable me to say the shit I don't dare say irl.

So should itas really feel maligned? Not really, so long as they understand everyone here is just hiding behind a mask and nobody would actually confront them if they decided to wear their bullshit irl. No1actuallycurr.

>> No.7241242

>>7241236
It's because lolita is a specific fashion, it's a thing, and people are ita because they are claiming to be that thing, but aren't. It's not about dictating how people wear things and what they wear. It's because it's a specific thing, and people think just because it's clothing it can be anything, which makes no sense.

Think if it this way. You really like oranges, and someone you know says they like them too. But then it turns out they think that any old citrus fruit is the same thing. You try telling them, that oranges are a specific thing, and they're not the same just because they're similar. Lemons and limes and grapefruits aren't oranges, tangerines are closer but not exactly.

But wouldn't it be frustrating to try to explain to someone that an orange is the only thing that is an orange. Imagine if someone brought in apples or a cucumber and tried saying it was an orange. It's not.

All we ask is that you only call it an orange if it is. Otherwise call it something else and we're fine.

I don't get how this mentality exists in fashion though, it would seem stupid elsewhere but in fashion people are all up in arms over stifling their expression, if you can't cope with the fact that Lolita is lolita because of specific things then you should go elsewhere.

>> No.7241244

>>7241242
This is the most wonderful thing. Can I just say that.

>> No.7241282

>>7241242

oh, well i always thought that 'fashion as a form of expression' implied that there was subjectivity, but thanks for clearing it up for me

>> No.7241285

>>7240444
holy shit, did her children draw those houses?

>> No.7241295

>>7241242
This is fantastically explained, thank you so much.

>> No.7241318

>>7241282
Well fashion in general is but fashion is different than 'a' fashion. If you choose a specific fashion though you're choosing something that has a predefined look, and that pre-defined look is what makes it different from other fashions, with lolita there are only a few pre-definitions that lolita has, and people are ita for not paying attention to them. Usually though, itas are just as bad if not worse than people who are complaining about them. We're just complaining because they refuse to listen and won't even try to understand because they're too convinced they should have infinite freedom of expression that they can ignore what defines lolita as a whole.

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She was already posted on this thread (the girl wearning cat penises as horns). Hey anon, that posted her on the first time, you are not alone.

>> No.7241442

I blame instagram filters.

>> No.7241520

>>7241383

Hm? This coord doesn't look that bad...?

>> No.7241681

>>7237640
DA FUQ wigs are a requirement now?
GTFO

>> No.7241717

>>7241383
but this coord is perfect. Smells like a vendetta.

>> No.7241776

>>7237297
Is that.... a crotch rosary...?

>> No.7241812

>>7238040
Best part about this is faboulous-chan's lack of cankles. Good example of fat people managing to look fucking incredible.

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ruined my fucking dream dress.

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All of you claiming "my state has the most itas," you are wrong.
1/?

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2/?

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3/?

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4/?

>> No.7242186

>>7241812
>tfw 90something lbs with cankles

>> No.7242205

>>7241952
Is that >>7240520?

I'm faceblind but the hair looks the same.

>> No.7242329

>>7241952
ANON.

ANON ARE WE FROM THE SAME AREA?

THIS GIRL.

It hurt when I saw the ILD photos.

Though I don't actually live in your state.

>>7242205
I'm like 90% sure they're the same. I uploaded the first photo.

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>>7242335

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>>7242340

>> No.7242641

>>7241915

Why did that ruin your dream dress?? It's not a good coord, but it's not terrible, and the dress itself is not ruined too, so... ?

>> No.7242644

>>7242335

Damn, I have a fucking love/hate reltionship with this fucking Haenuli the little prince skirt...I don't even like the book! And the skirt construction seems so wonky! And the colours so unmanageabke!
Still, everytime I see this fucking skirt I somehow wish I had bought it. ;_;

>> No.7242835

>>7241915
The dress itself is fine, the outfit is bad but not eye-wateringly terrible, I don't see your problem?

>> No.7244146

>>7237714
LMAO DENTAL PLAN

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