/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:24:03 2015 No.8120163 [DELETED]

I'm a huge fan of Purblind Cosplay but man she disappointed me just now.

On her facebook she just flipped out and posted this.

!!!! TIME FOR AN ANGER RANT
WHAT NOT TO DO AT CONS:
FILM OR PHOTOGRAPH COSPLAYERS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
DO /ANYTHING/ TO COSPLAYERS OR PEOPLE WITHOUT FUCKING CONSENT
https://vine.co/v/M2Ar6vvbDPY
this disgusts me. I didnt give this person permission. I was in a photoshoot. I REMEMBER this person coming behind me and i was extremely uncomfortable and asked them to leave. If you could please report this vine i would appreciate it, because this stuff needs to end. Cosplay =/= consent.
End rant
I find is sad and stupid she would be mad over something like this.
What are your thoughts. on the situation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:25:23 2015 No.8120170 File: 259 KB, 1365x2048, 1423861555687.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She really should a do a nerdy scientist look. Her giant glasses that make her eyes look larger would just be too perfect for that kind of role.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:28:55 2015 No.8120176 So, OP is the one whom she's mad at?

Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:28:59 2015 No.8120177

>>8120163
Honestly though it is disrespectful. The person behind the camera was too inappropriate. I understand it was for a photshoot, but she was doing it in a way so the back wouldn't show and the person filming purposely showed her backside. I can understand the anger, but she went too unprofessional about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:30:41 2015 No.8120183 File: 1.48 MB, 360x202, oh snap.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120176

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:31:10 2015 No.8120184 File: 262 KB, 1365x2048, 1423861493414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120177 We live in a society in which camera's are around us 24/7 and she's mad about a butt shot. It's silly. Also it looks fantastic why be mad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:31:18 2015 No.8120185 better watch out for dem security cameras

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:33:13 2015 No.8120189 >>8120184 Camera's are around us yes, but that doesn't mean you take one out and take pictures/video without consent. It's creepy, and it's been a general rule at many conventions to not take video or pictures without permission.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:34:16 2015 No.8120190 >>8120184 Let it go, OP. Let it go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:35:46 2015 No.8120193 >>8120189 It's a stupid rule. People don't have a right to be not recorded. Having a right to film/ take pictures in public places should be sacred. If you don't want to be filmed don't go to public places.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:37:43 2015 No.8120198 that was smalltime compared to all the videos following cosplayers around focused on their ass I wonder if people would like to know there are candid vids of them out there or not? I've seen a few /cgl/ goers candids.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:39:22 2015 No.8120202 >>8120183 Reading from OP's responses in this thread, pretty sure I'm not wrong about that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:44:32 2015 No.8120210 >>8120193 >People don't have a right to be not recorded. Huh, yes they do. Public servants/officers don't, but other people's right to privacy > your right to be a pervert.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:48:08 2015 No.8120214 >>8120210 This. It's just respectful to do so. I understand you find her attractive and yes she is, but taking video of her rear end isn't exactly a nice thing to do. Especially if she caught on and said to leave. It's just decency.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:49:26 2015 No.8120216 Why didnt she just tell him to fuck off? I mean Im not saying that he's in the right in filming her ass without asking, but some people are assholes and can't be reasoned with. You have to stand up for yourself sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:49:33 2015 No.8120217 >>8120210 There is no expectation of privacy when you're in public though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:51:28 2015 No.8120221 >>8120216 >"this disgusts me. I didnt give this person permission. I was in a photoshoot. I REMEMBER this person coming behind me and i was extremely uncomfortable and asked them to leave."

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:54:36 2015 No.8120224 >>8120210 actually... http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf http://ambientlight.ca/wp-content/uploads/Ontario-Photography-Laws-V1.0.pdf (ontario but most are common to all of canada)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 22:55:07 2015 No.8120228 >>8120221 I guess I can't say because I wasn't there, but 'asking them to leave' is different than telling them to fuck off IMO. But whatever. It sucks that she had a creeper follow her around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:06:40 2015 No.8120249 usually she has her friends or mom around to handle this sort of shit for her. pretty shitty thing to happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:18:41 2015 No.8120260 I don't know why you're disappointed in her. Asking for permission to take a video or photo has always been standard etiquette in cosplay circles, last I checked. Doing that is a dick move and disrespectful, even if it's not illegal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:23:42 2015 No.8120271 >>8120163 I must not have personal space issues if someones taking a pic of I do not care. It's why I dressed up. Hell if I see a camera turning toward me I auto-pose.

Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:24:50 2015 No.8120273

All he was doing was filming what she was showing in the first place. Anyone walking by would've seen the same thing, it's not like he was going under a skirt or something.

If she didn't want to be photographed looking like that she shouldn't had dressed/posed in that way. If you go out in public and do something, there's no reasonable way to act upset when someone gets a picture of you doing that thing. If you're so ashamed, don't do it.

And this is coming from someone who wears similar cosplays to her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:25:16 2015 No.8120276 >>8120189 But it's okay if you do it to creepy people right cgl? Just making sure because y'all are fucking hypocrites. >hot girl WAHHHH VICTIM >weird guy LOLOLOL NECKBEARD

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:31:09 2015 No.8120282 Man, some people here are reasoning on how to they deserve to be a creep..

Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:36:13 2015 No.8120288

>>8120273
Just because she or any other people dress that way, it doesn't mean they did not have the right to refuse their photos/videos being taken when they are not ready or any other reason.

If you yourself wear cosplays like that and liking/comfortable with the attention and actually want people to take photos of you all the time, then just go for it. But don't expect everyone to act the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:52:29 2015 No.8120308 >>8120288 you have a right to say no and they have no obligation to pay attention when you say that

Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:54:44 2015 No.8120312

>>8120288
If something is in plain sight, why would you get mad when people see it. This is the general argument most people hold.
For someone to photograph or record it, it can be creepy or not, that depends on the person and their morals.
There is an separate argument about if you can see it in plain sight and stand in an area where photography/video is allowed (which most events and public spaces allow), you should expect it at some point.

Then again, I am the type of person who victim blame the drunk girls who flash their tits for beads and get mad when a video or picture of them appears online.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:57:34 2015 No.8120319 So did she just happen to notice a presence and ask him to leave after he recorded her without her knowing? Or did she see he was recording and became uncomfortable and asked him to leave a later moment?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 14 23:58:37 2015 No.8120320 >>8120276 Because newsflash, those "weird guys" and neckbeards are usually the one taking creepshots. No girl deserves to be creeped on like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:01:34 2015 No.8120325 >>8120319 She said she noticed him, but didn't say anything and was very uncomfortable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:02:17 2015 No.8120328 >>8120308 >>8120312 Sounds like what rapists would say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:03:37 2015 No.8120331 Sooo where is the clip?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:04:15 2015 No.8120332 >>8120308 Wow. So edgy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:04:31 2015 No.8120333 >>8120331 seems like it was reported enough to get taken down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:05:07 2015 No.8120334 >>8120333 You're telling me nobody snagged it? That can't be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:05:09 2015 No.8120335 >>8120325 I read that, I didn't see the vine. I thought we been through the speak out phase movement for creeps and uncomfortable moments at cons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:07:01 2015 No.8120338 >>8120335 Oh in the vine, she didn't say a thing and just kept posing until they took her photo then she quickly stood up so her cape could cover her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:07:30 2015 No.8120340 >>8120328 Sorry to disappoint, I like to look but not touch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:10:07 2015 No.8120343 >>8120328 except in this case taking your photo without your permission is 100% legal >>8120332 so much edge I can style your wig for you with my bare hands

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:10:42 2015 No.8120344 I feel SO BAD for her. She puts a lot of effort into cosplaying and gets no reward only gross reactions becauae of how hot she is and drama because of everyone being jealous

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:11:14 2015 No.8120346

This banter makes me think of those tabloid pics that will show celebrities kids in a group of other kids at a field trip or birthday party where everyone's face us blurred out besides famous kid. Basically were saying they don't have s normal citizens right to privacy because they came our of a famous vagina.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:11:29 2015 No.8120347 >>8120334 It was only a few seconds of her standing still for the person photographing her but from another angle.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:15:15 2015 No.8120354

>>8120273
She very clearly is posing for the professional photographer in a way that isn't meant to show her ass. I'm pretty sure she didn't take any photos that show it, because she didn't want any shots like that. You sound like the type of person who claims girls who get raped were asking for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:21:52 2015 No.8120364 >>8120354 There are pictures of her in her bra and underwear from the previous day so she definitely does like the show off- she still didnt deserve this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:26:48 2015 No.8120373 The activity itself may have been creepy but the actual result was very plain. From the reactions I was expecting more. It wasn't even a blatant ass shot. It was more from the side.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:33:00 2015 No.8120383 >>8120163 Vine not found. What was it of exactly?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:35:30 2015 No.8120390 >>8120364 post them?

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:37:26 2015 No.8120393

>>8120383
Creep (probably OP) taking video of the cosplayer from behind, specifically a clear angle of her ass (her pose was more of a side thing but not showing her backside). Cosplayer quickly stands back up after photo is taken and tries to cover herself with back of cape. People are saying she didn't say anything (it's not in the video) but she did ask the person to stop and leave.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:39:33 2015 No.8120397 File: 434 KB, 2048x1257, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120390 I could only find two on her page and they have other cosplayers in them but she ran around downtown hamilton dressed like that

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:41:36 2015 No.8120404 >>8120397 Oh yeah, I remember that cosplay now. That was probably the reason why I liked her, that and her jinx cosplay

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:43:47 2015 No.8120409 >>8120404 She's the hottest girl in her comm so thank jesus shes an exhibitionist

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:50:45 2015 No.8120420 >>8120409 I dunno, I'd tap meltyfate, but only if she wore a cosplay, I've seen her natural look. Not a big fan of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:53:08 2015 No.8120424 >>8120397 who's the one on the right tho, anyone know?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 00:54:12 2015 No.8120426 >>8120420 Purblinds has better tits and ass and melty hasnt been to a con since the summer

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:03:09 2015 No.8120440 >>8120320 So double standards are in effect, got it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:03:57 2015 No.8120442 >>8120440 Go back to /r9k/

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:04:42 2015 No.8120443 >>8120397 YO FUCK THE CRYBABY WHO'S THE GIRL ON THE RIGHT

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:08:24 2015 No.8120449 >>8120443 i'm surprised she hasn't killed herself yet

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:08:56 2015 No.8120452 >>8120443 Meltyfate. There was a vendetta thread on the chick once

>>	seig hiel !zkraGArAss Sun Feb 15 01:12:01 2015 No.8120460 >>8120163 cosplay =/= respect just becuase you're dressed up as a slutty video game character doesn't mean i have to buy your prints, "like" your social media drivel or give 2 shits about what others do to you in cons

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:14:31 2015 No.8120464 >>8120452 THAT'S meltyfate?! God damn I'ma go message her on Facebook and tell her I like her face. Chicks dig that right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:16:39 2015 No.8120466 >>8120464 No. Don't be a creep.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:16:56 2015 No.8120467 >>8120464 Of course they do! Go for it dude!

>>	seig hiel !zkraGArAss Sun Feb 15 01:17:27 2015 No.8120468 >>8120464 happy valentines day just rubbed on out to your cute ass face bitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:18:03 2015 No.8120470 File: 2.25 MB, 400x225, 1337430492812.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120466

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:22:06 2015 No.8120477 >>8120470 Jess looks so OLD there wth

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 01:44:49 2015 No.8120492 Conventions have a terms of agreement, which you agree to by attending (also you have to agree to it when you buy your badge). Those terms are your consent to be photographed and recorded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 02:39:03 2015 No.8120572 >>8120163 Not your personal army

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 02:44:17 2015 No.8120578 >>8120163 >Vine not found Anybody save it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 02:53:40 2015 No.8120591 >>8120578 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 02:57:51 2015 No.8120598 File: 2.93 MB, 294x231, _1_biguns_2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Getting butthurt at someone recording you while you're wearing fetish shit in a public family friendly establishment. Coswhores in a nut shell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 02:58:54 2015 No.8120599 She's only mad because she didn't get paid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:05:38 2015 No.8120608 ITT /cgl/ actually argues whether taking shots of someone's ass without their knowledge or permission is creepy or not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:06:52 2015 No.8120611 >>8120608 It's like the 3rd time it's happened in 2 weeks, anon...

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:08:17 2015 No.8120613 >>8120608 A: "Taking pictures of someone's ass without their permission is creepy." B: "It's also completely legal." Thread summary.

>>	Clockwork Loyalty !!AeVd1sjJ70p Sun Feb 15 03:21:39 2015 No.8120629 >>8120424 Brigitte Quinn IIRC

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:27:05 2015 No.8120632 >>8120629 Why are you even alive?

>>	seig hiel !zkraGArAss Sun Feb 15 03:30:32 2015 No.8120637 >>8120477 jess is old late 20's

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:34:56 2015 No.8120642

If you try to reason creepy behaviour (taking innapropiate pictures, following cosplayers, making them feel uncomfortable etc.), you're a creeper. To be honest, you don't even deserve to take pictures if you can't handle courtesy. What is so difficult to ask to take a picture? Are you so socially inept that you can't even do that and instead take creepy photos? Sad to see some people lack basic social skills.

if I catch one of you motherfuckers taking a innapropiate photos of me or any other congoers without their consent I will call you out immedietly and I will not save words by doing so. If you still don't get the hint, I will ask security's assistance and in here where I live, if you don't delete innapropiate pictures you have taken in wordt case you will be thrown out of the con for the rest of the day. Also people don't want their pictures taken by a creeper and since social media is everywhere you don't want to be next "beware this person" on the cons.

So if you want to take a picture, simply ask, if they say yes, then go for it, if they say no, move on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:37:37 2015 No.8120644 File: 80 KB, 500x686, a1qi6hszo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fuck is up with her left eye? She also reminds me of the vocalist from Acid Black Cherry Yasu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:38:58 2015 No.8120648 >>8120642 k

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:56:24 2015 No.8120674 File: 308 KB, 546x700, Back+to+tumblr+you+go+_858953523b683133078dd29278fd2a49.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120642

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 03:58:30 2015 No.8120680 >>8120674 There was nothing wrong with that post. Be a creep and you will suffer the consequences.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:15:31 2015 No.8120712
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Well she sells herself online with sexual exploitation. Who do you think pays for all her fucking prints? The "creepers". Her target audience. If you're going to advertise yourself as a coswhore you should at least own it instead of lashing out at your "fans". We all fucking know what they're doing with your prints and it's certainly not "inspiration" cam whore. It's not like any of them pay for tickets much less their own costumes. They just live off neckbeards, bitch needed a reality check.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:19:43 2015 No.8120721 >>8120712 It's not sexual exploitation. If she cosplays revealing stuff, that's for her sake and her sake only. Would you like it if you cosplayed revealing outfits only to be hit on and creeped on by a bunch of guys? Probably not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:24:51 2015 No.8120729 >>8120712 I don't even get why dudes hit on/creep on these girls. They aren't going to put out, they just want money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:30:24 2015 No.8120736 >>8120721 It's her choice exactly. And those are the consequences for being a trashy slut in a public venue. People have cell phones, and will use them. Deal with it.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:32:22 2015 No.8120741

>>8120736
And if you decide to be creepy about it like take creepshots and post them, people will find out somehow, alert security or staff, and make sure everyone in the scene knows who you are so they can avoid you. Those are the consequences of being a creep to girls. Deal with it.

>>	seig hiel !zkraGArAss Sun Feb 15 04:34:23 2015 No.8120744 >>8120729 it's only the really young dudes who don't know that these women aren't worth giving the time of day to

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:38:53 2015 No.8120756 >>8120712 there are 2 type of girls in this world. Girls you wanna be with, and girls you wanna get with. She is really just someone you want to get with really, nothing more

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:41:30 2015 No.8120762 >>8120470 you should send them that gif and say "this is what happens when I see your photos" you'll be a hit

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:41:48 2015 No.8120763

If you feel worried or concerned, you should! You're running around half naked amongst thousands of fetish driven neckbeards or worse. That's not the publics fault, that's your own consciousness telling you to put some fucking pants on kek. If you walked around naked, people would record you. Same thing. You wouldn't expect the naked individual to start yelling at the spectators then try to get THEM arrested it's the other way around, it's inappropriate and unsanitary, so why do cosplayers expect to be treated any differently?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 04:43:44 2015 No.8120765 Don't go to cons if you don't want to be recorded or photographed.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 05:02:02 2015 No.8120788

Reminds me of that Red Sonja cosplayer that tried to get that mentally disabled person arrested for flipping up her flap to find she hadn't been wearing underwear all day and had been flashing people whenever she used the stairs. That's nasty. Std's probably get transmitted easier through conventions now so be careful where you sit. That's a health hazard and security should have told her to change. Even thongs are pushing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:05:00 2015 No.8120809 File: 1.52 MB, 1065x902, 1416098038176.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120788 >STDs get transmitted through sitting on things American education.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:08:04 2015 No.8120812 >>8120763 >>8120788 Dear samefag, are you a Mormon or Islamist? It's hard to tell those two apart on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:13:33 2015 No.8120817 >>8120809 Yes, they can. You can get a vaginal infection from a public bathroom, for example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:16:43 2015 No.8120820 >>8120817 http://www.med.nyu.edu/content?ChunkIID=157008 Anon pls I know this is /cgl/, but step up your b8 game a bit

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:28:28 2015 No.8120834 >>8120788 If mentally retarded people cannot control themselves from sexually assaulting girls they should be banned from cons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:47:37 2015 No.8120866 File: 500 KB, 480x480, redirect.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't want pictures taken or videos by horny men don't wear slutty clothes in front of them. Here friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:50:58 2015 No.8120870 File: 32 KB, 424x393, 1392772266405.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120866 >creepshots are the same as asking for pictures /r9k/ pls

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 11:55:00 2015 No.8120875

>>8120866
Jesus, that's it? What a whiner. She's on a staircase in a hotel lobby, she's shoving her ass out at everybody behind her, and she's complaining because somebody looked at it.

She can't even say that the guy had to climb through bushes or up on a wall like that one Stocking cosplayer did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:09:58 2015 No.8120889 >>8120193 > It's a stupid rule It's not a stupid rule to try and be polite when taking photos. In fact you might just get better photos out of it as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:18:11 2015 No.8120902 >>8120866 Is that the video she was talking about? I thought it would be much worse than that. Like, lower angle, under the cape or something.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:20:37 2015 No.8120905

>>8120288
>, it doesn't mean they did not have the right to refuse their photos/videos being taken when they are not ready or any other reason.
it does when she's strutting around in costume in a public forum. i dont put on miniskirts and tube tops when i go out because i know the type of attention it brings, and i dont want it, so i DONT dress up like a ho out in public. its really that simple. its like movie starts complaining about everyone being up in their business- getting pissed at the people paying your overpriced paycheck when you're lucky to be getting income being nothing more than an over glorified wanabe doll

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:23:38 2015 No.8120913 >>8120712 You do realize that Vera is a camgirl and entertainer right. As in she is doing a job and everyone involved consents to it. Comparing that to a barely legal girl who's cosplaying for fun p. much qualifies you as a creepy motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:25:36 2015 No.8120915 >>8120608 if you're rude enough to let your ass hang out in public, on display for all to see and stupid enough to not understand why guys are taking photos, you may be too stupid and a frankly a lost cause

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:28:55 2015 No.8120920 It may be legal to film someones ass but it can also be against con rules.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:28:59 2015 No.8120921

>>8120642
> try to reason creepy behaviour (taking innapropiate pictures, following cosplayers, making them feel uncomfortable etc.), you're a creeper
im actually a chick thats gets creeped on a lot, hence why ive learned and understood that when you go out in public, its best to put on clothing and cover up what the public has no business seeing. creepers will exist no matter what, thinking you can magically tell them to go away is retarded.
>What is so difficult to ask to take a picture?
there's no reason to ask because they're letting their ass hang out on display in public. normally you'd have to ask because respectable chicks dont walk around in public with their ass's hanging out. have you guys just never been creeped out on unless your in your full whore garb or what? is this a new feeling that you dont understand how to approach?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:32:11 2015 No.8120925 >>8120866 wow she's being a crazy bitch. that shit wouldn't even make most boners twitch are you kidding

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:33:28 2015 No.8120928 >>8120397 Is she crosseyed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:37:57 2015 No.8120936 >>8120920 So? Literally, so what? All they can do is ask you to leave. It's illegal for them to try and take your camera or anything like that, even if they'll try to anyway.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 12:53:24 2015 No.8120962

One last time, if you try to reason creepy behaviour, you're supporting harrasment and you are a creeper, end of the fucking discussion.

Trying to get this to your head is like arguing with a little kid who just a tantrum. It's sad that many of you can't see people as a human beings with feelings and not objects of your own desire. I think men should not be in this board at all if their input is trying to reason creepy behaviour and harrasment, not to mention how they already refer women as sluts. It's not us, it's you. And con safety should be top priority of all.

If someone makes you feel uncomfortable by taking pictures of you, gives a innapropiate comments or is a shit in general, call that person out, ask help from congoers, staff or security.

>inb4 go back to tumblr weh weh posts
If you don't care about safety others, I don't care how "humiliated" you feel after being caught on act and all attention is centered on you. You deserve that.

*English is not my first language, so there might be some spelling and grammar errors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:02:08 2015 No.8120988 >>8120928 I think she is...but she's still adorable. I followed her cosplay page thanks to this thread.

>>	t'challa the marvelous captain(...) Sun Feb 15 13:10:17 2015 No.8120999 File: 113 KB, 553x720, hail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120163

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:13:04 2015 No.8121005 >>8120460 Tharja isn't a slutty video game character, though.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:15:38 2015 No.8121015

>>8120492
From a random Canadian con's policy page:
"Photography of all other aspects of the Event is allowed as long as it does not disrupt events, the flow of traffic, and the subject does not object to the photo.
Please be considerate and ask first before taking pictures of guests, other patrons, or the general public.
Please be advised that you may be video recorded and/or photographed by the Event for promotional purposes."

This is all well and good, but do you think anyone ever makes sure they have the consent of people in the background? It isn't even possible because it's a public area with a high volume of traffic. If cosplay =/= consent only applies to the main subject of the photo, it's a bullshit standard. I've never seen people snagged in the background of pictures complain, even though they never consented verbally — because they consented by fucking going there. Really, the actual idea behind the concept is that particular cosplayers want to control the way they're seen and publicized, despite the fact that people can just look, remember really well, and crank it to the memory, if we're talking about 'being creepy'.

>>8120224
>>8120193
These for sure. Someone on her FB said "Unfortunately, it's not illegal to photograph/record someone in public without their consent." How do they think security cameras work? That's definitely without people's explicit consent. How did people find, let's say, the Aurora shooter so quickly? Partially because everyone was recording what happened and I definitely didn't see anyone in those threads complain about being recorded.

Perhaps the issue is "don't publish without consent", but that still only has the main subject in mind, so it's a useless platitude. I don't like creep shot threads on /b/ at all, as an example of definitely invading someone's personal space, and the secret ass footage of cosplayers is weird/discourteous. But this video isn't anything invasive in particular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:21:50 2015 No.8121024 >I'm a huge fan of Purblind Cosplay but man she disappointed me just now Are you twelve years old

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:23:46 2015 No.8121027 >>8120962 >everyone needs consent!! >but it's all the men's fault actually >ignores posts like >>8120921 and >>8120273 which are from women >thinks 'you are a creeper' is a legitimate argument Remember when /cgl/ used to be cool?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:24:48 2015 No.8121029 >>8120928 She is. Her cosplay page name came from her having extremely poor vision and being cross-eyed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:25:38 2015 No.8121031 >>8121027 It's called growing up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:26:06 2015 No.8121032 >>8121029 Oh, that's actually really cute.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:33:14 2015 No.8121043

>>8121031
Growing up means blaming everything on one gender and shutting out valid points? I guess I need to go through a couple more Huckleberry Finn life journeys to understand that. I never said it was okay to be a creeper, but this doesn't even fall under that. You know when the Kony 2012 guy was jackin' it in San Diego, chimping out naked from car top to car top, everyone recorded him? Don't give it to the public if you don't want the public to have it.

Also, this seems to be a thing North American cosplayers cooked up. Any non-SJW euro-seagulls able to weigh in on this, on the actual attitudes of their local cosplay community towards this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:34:46 2015 No.8121048 >>8120184 >"Also it looks fantastic why be mad?" "Hey girl, don't be mad I objectified you without permission! I think you look fantastic! You have no right to be offended by my unwanted and intrusive comments and/or actions!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:35:39 2015 No.8121051 >I'm a childish, socially retarded asshole >anyone who disagrees must be on of those crazy feminazis the internet told me about >g-go back to tumblr! Holy shit the fedora is strong in here

>>	Mark "Immabanyou" TRAN(...) !vFj9FfbsFc Sun Feb 15 13:36:48 2015 No.8121054 Let me get this straight: This is the community that thinks Tom is creepy for taking foot photos from CONSENTING models, but this dude creeping on Purblind without her permission is totally okay? ok.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 13:55:02 2015 No.8121087 >>8121051 Please don't use the r-word, visit http://www.r-word.org/ and learn to be more respectful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:08:19 2015 No.8121110 File: 68 KB, 468x830, comiket-86-day-2-2-95-468x830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >MEANWHILE, IN JAPAN..... We in the West are such prudes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:09:35 2015 No.8121113 File: 74 KB, 600x450, comiket.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8121110

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:12:45 2015 No.8121120 >>8121113 I love that what we'd call 'creepers' here get their faces censored out. So much for that public shaming? It does come with the territory of Comiket, though. Western conventions aren't ready for this sort of thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:18:30 2015 No.8121128 File: 80 KB, 640x960, 1414019497197.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:19:37 2015 No.8121131

>>8121120
The fact Japan allows it at all only describes the strong fetishization of the female form over there. Let's not joke around: A ton of Japanese otaku are pandered-to manchildren who think shit like this is okay because their anime fantasy worlds inform them too much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:20:23 2015 No.8121133 >>8121128 I sure hope he consented to having his dick grabbed and to be photographed of having his dick grabbed!

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:20:38 2015 No.8121134 >>8121128 Genuinely consensual. Got a problem?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:22:45 2015 No.8121137 >>8121131 You must be thinking that they haven't already consented by being in the cosplay & photography-only areas. Because you're not allowed to cosplay or take photography outside of those areas. Also, implying fujoshi aren't as bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:23:46 2015 No.8121139 >>8121134 Proof of consent or it's sexual assault.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:29:19 2015 No.8121146 >>8121139 A posed shot with high-quality publication from two known cosplayers who are public friends and no incident? Yeah. I think that's good enough. Go away, troll.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:31:04 2015 No.8121150 >>8121087 seriously?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:45:08 2015 No.8121180 File: 798 KB, 480x360, Ug2SyLv[1].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lol feelings, amirite guys XD?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 14:54:45 2015 No.8121193 >>8120477 Tanning is a hell of a drug.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:03:21 2015 No.8121204

I'm a photographer that has shot with Purblind. Every time, random people walk by the shoot and want to snap quick pix with their cellphones, etc. She's always happy to do it for polite people. If she asked this person to go away, it was probably for a reason. So the anger is justified, imo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:04:15 2015 No.8121205 >>8121204 things that didn't happen/10

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:04:36 2015 No.8121207 >>8121110 No, more like we girls in the west don't put up with that fucking shit. Thank god. I'm sure that girl would love to have the "rights" we do

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:07:49 2015 No.8121215 >>8121205 Most attractive girl cosplayers will have their shoots interrupted at least once by a cell phone person. Why is that so hard to believe?

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:08:14 2015 No.8121217

I think the argument is now divided on two fundamentally different aspects, now. Previously, the idea that the "Consplay =/= Consent" crowd was trying to focus on was that, essentially, sexual predators were using photos to exploit their targets. Both sides have agreed that this is an actual thing, and have nominally said that they wish for this to stop.

The opposing side, of which I belong, wants to bring into light the obvious sexual connotations for dressing up in "sexy" clothing. The terms are tied together - if you are wearing sexy clothes, then the intent is to be sexually attractive. While some of my... well, I certainly won't call these dribbling semi-lucid fucks my "peers", but those that share this viewpoint get distracted by the varying degrees of sexually appealing clothing some of these women wear and ignore the heart of the issue.

Men that attend these events in costumes and clothing that is meant to be sexually appealing know that they are entering a place where people will grant them varying degrees of attention for their antics. Take the Pokemon Men group, for example - almost all of them are nearly shirtless, and, let's face it, other than that Ash and Pikachu fuckin' none 'dem bitches ain' pretty. And yet, there are tons of videos of them out there, and in some of those videos you can see people randomly wandering in and out of the shoot trying to grope muscles, playfully poke abs, stroke Misty's beard, etc. While, in this instance, it is considered "play", this brings about the crux of the point I'm making:

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:09:20 2015 No.8121219 >>8120184 I wonder where she got her shoes from. They're cute.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:09:38 2015 No.8121221

>>8121217

If you enter a place where this kind of behavior is not only accepted, but also encouraged, do you have to surrender the right to be photographed in otherwise compromising positions that you are not comfortable with outside of cons? While the argument about this topic could potentially hinge upon whether or not someone's obsessed with fiction has led them to accept certain behaviors as a social norm when they are, in fact, not, the main pointe is actually whether or not a convention is the proper space for such antics just because there are socially fuckawful nerds there. Some would say that yes, it's a gathering of people who live in their delusions. Others would say that it's a public place like any other... except, it's not, you have to purchase your ticket. It's a private showing.

I would say that whether or not this behavior is socially acceptable is irrelevant; instead, you need to focus on whether or not the con and con staff are willing to allow or overlook this behavior for that con. I, personally, think that cons are so widespread now that having some cons allow it and some cons don't isn't some random nerdy pipedream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:10:46 2015 No.8121222 >>8121207 she gets paid for that... at comiket, japanese girls who cosplay that kind of shit are 89% of the time, paid models, the other 11% are either wanting to become paid models or idols.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:10:55 2015 No.8121223

>>8121221
Now, the argument has a lot of distractions that we need to stay away from - namely, if the person who is freaking out over buttshots is indeed a whore. That's irrelevant. Her camwhoriness is tied to her own need for self-justification and her financial need to continue living on this fuckin' shit we call a planet. This is a scapegoat - she must be a slut, so it's okay, etc, and then the inevitable counter-arguents that follow - it's all said because you don't know what to actually say to progress the discussion on the issue. Stay focused out there - the issue of the matter is whether or not this is okay to do at a convention, which is not a public gathering.

Like I stated above, I think you surrender certain rights when you enter a private gathering; however, perhaps having some cons that outright ban this sort of thing could really help.

And I don't care if you don't agree with me.

Just... just please. Don't be like Japan.

Oh god no.

Please no.

Don't be like Comiket, please.

An entire nation of sexist jerks gathering their worst examples of sexism into a single place.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:15:08 2015 No.8121230

God shit like this pisses me off. Yes, cosplay is not consent. Yes, it shouldn't happen. Yes, you shouldn't have to cover up just because some creeps are being pervs, but jesus christ, what did you expect? Perverts who want panty shot etc are well known to go to cons, and if you're going to slut it up there, chances are you're going to have unwanted photos taken. Don't like it? Suck it up, or stop wearing cosplays that are revealing in public and do private photoshoots instead. Coming from someone who wears revealing cosplays at cons, you're going to get creeped on no matter what, so choose wisely when going out.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:15:25 2015 No.8121232

>>8120163
>WHAT NOT TO DO AT CONS:
>FILM OR PHOTOGRAPH COSPLAYERS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
>DO /ANYTHING/ TO COSPLAYERS OR PEOPLE WITHOUT FUCKING CONSENT
This stupid cunt can fuck off. She's in a public place. There are ZERO expectations of privacy. If she does not want photos taken of her, she can stay in her house and keep the drapes closed. She sounds every bit like an entitled cunt who thinks she can strut around in skimpy clothing and expect people to cater to her whims. Stupid bitches like her piss me off. "BOO FUCKING HOO I dressed provocatively and someone took a pic I don't like WAAAH". Fuck off back to tumblr you feminazi whore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:16:34 2015 No.8121236 File: 90 KB, 633x352, YourPost.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8120210 >Huh, yes they do. Public servants/officers don't, but other people's right to privacy > your right to be a pervert. NOPE

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:19:56 2015 No.8121244 >>8121230 "yes it shouldn't happen" vs "suck it up, or stop wearing that cosplay in public" you are a hypocrite who makes no sense. try to keep only one argument before your cognitive dissonance ruins your brain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:21:30 2015 No.8121248 >>8121232 not having people take pictures of your ass without consent is an entitled whim I think everyone can agree upon

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:21:34 2015 No.8121250

>>8120642
>if I catch one of you motherfuckers taking a innapropiate photos of me or any other congoers without their consent I will call you out immedietly and I will not save words by doing so. If you still don't get the hint, I will ask security's assistance and in here where I live, if you don't delete innapropiate pictures you have taken in wordt case you will be thrown out of the con for the rest of the day. Also people don't want their pictures taken by a creeper and since social media is everywhere you don't want to be next "beware this person" on the cons.
Good luck you knee-jerking retard. I have a 300mm lens and can snap pics of your panties from so far away you'd never even know it, so you better make sure you wax and shave properly else people will see what a hairy monster you are.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:23:30 2015 No.8121258

>>8121250
as if 300mm even on a crop body is sniper enough to have people not notice you except in the most crowded situations, where panty shots probably aren't even that great. this photograph in question was in the lobby of a hotel. you'd stick out like a sore thumb creeping on her ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:25:55 2015 No.8121263 >>8121215 >attractive >Girl who you can't tell if she's looking at you, or seeing what phase the moon is in Pick on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:27:15 2015 No.8121269 >>8121248 >not having people take pictures of your ass without consent is an entitled whim I think everyone can agree upon You can agree all you want. The law says otherwise. You lose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:27:16 2015 No.8121270 >>8121263 "her knees are sharp 0/10"

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:27:54 2015 No.8121271
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>>8121110
>>8121120
>creepers
>public shaming
You guys are functionally retarded. The girl wearing that costume is an AV actress/gravure model that makes money from selling BDs/CDs of herself posing naked or half-naked.
People take upskirt shots of her? Free promotion and more sales. Japanese cons have strict cosplay rules and seperate photoshoot areas, you'd bet your ass all those photographers would have been kicked out if it hadn't been consensual.
Also, Japanese censor the faces of strangers that are included in their pictures. It's a cultural thing.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:29:08 2015 No.8121276
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>>8121258
>as if 300mm even on a crop body is sniper enough to have people not notice you except in the most crowded situations, where panty shots probably aren't even that great. this photograph in question was in the lobby of a hotel. you'd stick out like a sore thumb creeping on her ass.
Lol yeah sure, Columbo. Oh speaking of Columbo, this chick could do an awesome gender-bent Columbo. Her eyes say "yes".

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:30:07 2015 No.8121279

>>8121244
I'm saying that in a perfect world, no one would ever take photos without permission. Fact is though, we don't live in a perfect world and people need to accept that. Just because people should do something doesn't mean they do. Take your psych 101 degree somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:31:37 2015 No.8121283 >>8121269 ConBravo is taking place on private property with a reasonable expectation of privacy, which Purblind obviously affirmed as per the policy of the Con's organizers. YOU lose. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:32:33 2015 No.8121287 >>8121269 >the law If it's against the con rules to take creep shots and you still do, you can expect to get kicked out :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:32:48 2015 No.8121288 >>8121279 Why should she "accept" that any more than you should "accept" her being angry about it and posting it on her social media? Take your shitty arguments somewhere else, because you're not actually communicating anything.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:34:45 2015 No.8121292

>>8121283
>ConBravo is taking place on private property with a reasonable expectation of privacy, which Purblind obviously affirmed as per the policy of the Con's organizers. YOU lose. Fuck off.
Take it to court and see how that plays out if you're feeling lucky, counselor. You will lose.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:35:51 2015 No.8121296
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>>8121287
>If it's against the con rules to take creep shots and you still do, you can expect to get kicked out :^)
Prove I was taking any. Oh right, you can't. Back to Fuckoffsville for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:36:15 2015 No.8121297 File: 10 KB, 300x241, Top lel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8121292 >court No need for that, con staff can kick you out for behaving inappropriately and there is nothing to do about it.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:37:22 2015 No.8121298
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>>8121297
>No need for that, con staff can kick you out for behaving inappropriately and there is nothing to do about it.
And again - prove I was behaving inappropriately. Good luck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:38:49 2015 No.8121303 >>8121298 Anon, nobody is talking about you. It's about a simple thing - law and "zero expectations of privacy" don't matter on convention premises.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:39:13 2015 No.8121306

>>8121292
The only thing that'd theoretically stop you is to fully charged for sexual harassment? Keep it up man, and you may indeed one day get your wish!!!

>>8121298
LOL... They don't need to "PROVE" you're behaving inappropriately. They have the right to kick you out at any time without proof, without justification. It's completely tyrannical for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:41:41 2015 No.8121312 >>8121306 They can kick out creeps, but can they send them to jail? Force them to delete what they recorded?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:43:15 2015 No.8121317 >>8121312 They can at Camp X-raycon.

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:44:55 2015 No.8121319

I agree things shouldn't be done without consent, obviously, but at the same time when you enter a public space like a big convention you are automatically granting people permission to photograph or film you. Maybe they're sticking a lens right next to your ass, maybe they're standing 50' away, maybe they're actually taking a photo of something next to you and you happened to walk into their frame. However it occurs, the fact is that filming and photos in public spaces are not in any way prohibited and if you want to control exactly who does and does not film you your one and only option is to not appear in public, or at least not appear in public in such a way as to draw attention, e.g. in cosplay.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:45:04 2015 No.8121321 >>8121312 for someone complaining so much about "stupid entitled" people, you seem awfully entitled to the law protecting your stupid behaviour. yeah, you might get away with it. does that change that you're objectively a shitty person? no.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:46:19 2015 No.8121323 >>8121288 When she (or anyone) can change the entire fucking world then I'll shut up. 5/10 troll

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:48:23 2015 No.8121329 >>8121303 >Anon, nobody is talking about you. It's about a simple thing - law and "zero expectations of privacy" don't matter on convention premises. This is a hypothetical. Try to follow along.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:49:45 2015 No.8121332 >>8121298 >prove I was behaving inappropriately You just posted on 4chan

Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:50:49 2015 No.8121337

>>8121306
>The only thing that'd theoretically stop you is to fully charged for sexual harassment? Keep it up man, and you may indeed one day get your wish!!!
There is no such thing as being charged with sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is a workplace thing. Otherwise men could be arrested for simply catcalling a woman in public. Nice try though.

>>8121306
>LOL... They don't need to "PROVE" you're behaving inappropriately. They have the right to kick you out at any time without proof, without justification. It's completely tyrannical for a reason.
So you're assuming that they're just going to kick out a paying attendee based on nothing other than your word. Man some of you people are delusional.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 15 15:51:52 2015 No.8121340 >>8121332 >You just posted on 4chan This would be within the context of a convention.

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