Otome Kei

[Anonymous No.8230079]

Looks like the otome thread died. I'll post what I have, but I'd really like to get some new content in here too so self posting encouraged!

[Anonymous No.8230081]

[Anonymous No.8230083]

>>8230081

[Anonymous No.8230086]

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[Anonymous No.8230088]

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[Anonymous No.8230089]

suggestions/pics for otome headwear other than hats?

[Anonymous No.8230090]

>>8230088

[Anonymous No.8230096]

>>8230089
Hair accessories such as clips or bows work well, pic related. I'll look for some more examples for you.

[Anonymous No.8230098]

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[Anonymous No.8230099]

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[Anonymous No.8230100]

>>8230099
Not 100% sure this is otome but hair ribbons like this could be cute too.

[Anonymous No.8230101]

>>8230096
>>8230098
>>8230099
thanks!!

[Anonymous No.8230102]

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[Anonymous No.8230127]

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[Anonymous No.8230129]

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[Anonymous No.8230161]

Can I request some plus size (or just sort of slightly more chubby) girls? I'd like to get more into otome but I'm about a UK size 12 and I'm quite pear shaped with thick legs, and I never really see any bigger girls in otome.

[Anonymous No.8230173]

more otome help requests: what kind of purses do you wear with otome? what brands should I look at (outside of etc, jm, milk which I can't always find in the right color at the right time).

pic related: I want to buy this bag for otome but I'm not sure if my gyaru is showing too much

[Anonymous No.8230181]

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[Anonymous No.8230188]

>>8230181

[Anonymous No.8230202]

>>8230173
you can just mix and match items with otome and gyaru. Axes Femme and Amaval items are easy to use between brands.
The bag in the pic looks like it could work, but with any other item it depends on the rest of the outfit. For otome, you typically look at the bag as a way to make the outfit more quirky.

[Anonymous No.8230217]

>>8230202
okay that makes sense. I ambjust looking for a bag I can use with a bunch of daily coords as I build up an otome wardrobe (gyaru doesn't really fly in the workplace). I'll see if I can find something else purse wise or find some quirkier accessories to fill the gap

[Anonymous No.8230240]

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[Anonymous No.8230241]

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[Anonymous No.8230245]

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[Anonymous No.8230248]

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[Anonymous No.8230250]

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[Anonymous No.8230252]

>>8230250
okay, I'm maybe reaching a bit now

[Anonymous No.8230270]

Are there any other affordable otome brands other than axes femme?

[Anonymous No.8230356]

any good otome blogs or tumblrs? I need inspo

[Anonymous No.8230430]

>>8230270
requesting more westerners in otome

[Anonymous No.8230447]

Maybe a stupid question but I have a fairly big lolita wardrobe and want to wear it for work. Is it ok to use lolita in otome? I know some brands cater for both, otome and lolita but I am not sure how acceptable it is.

[Anonymous No.8230514]

>>8230356
I'll post some I follow after work! Also mine is grandma-kei.tumblr.com but I don't have any coords yet. I reblog otome content daily tho, and post shopping finds.

[Anonymous No.8230526]

>>8230514
cool blog! but its kinda hard to see anything when your header dips down so low.

[Anonymous No.8230542]

>>8230447
Yeah of course. I wear lolita dresses to work all the time in a more otome way.

I wear IW chocolate fountain with a red sweater and some flat shoes and call it a day. Basically, if it looks good as otome (and you call it otome) you'll be fine.

I could seem some girls getting uppity if you styled a lolita dress as otome without a blouse and so on and then called it lolita.

[Anonymous No.8230548]

>>8230542
I'm kind of doing the same thing. I've just never been into the really OTT lolita styles so all my coordinates are really simple and more otome styled/influenced.

[Anonymous No.8230596]

>>8230161
bc axes femme doesn't come in size landwhale

[Anonymous No.8230646]

>>8230596
Axes Femme Paris have items in bigger sizes, though, even if it still isn't plus-sized.

[Anonymous No.8230663]

>>8230596
12 isn't landwhale anon.

[Anonymous No.8230668]

>>8230663
so it is

[Anonymous No.8230837]

>>8230526
Haha yeah I need to hunt down a better theme, but I haven't been able to find one I like more. I wish I could resize the header but I'd have to resize all the stuff inside it too urrrgh.

[Anonymous No.8230900]

>>8230668
Whatever you say anon. The 'UK' part is important.

[Anonymous No.8230912]

>>8230668
>>8230900
even in amerifat size 12 isn't that massive. too big for most otome brand without sheering, but definitely not land whale

[Anonymous No.8230947]

hey, im a newbie to the jfashioney threads round here, so i thought id jump in with some otome related questions.
>does hime and himekaji count as otome, i know its a subset of gyaru which can be incorperated into otome.
Also??
>thoughts on otome being more or less brand intense than other fashion types (is there prefrence towards certain brands or do you think otome doesnt have that focus)??
Its hard to get info on this stuff, it gets confusing. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.8231385]

>>8230356
Okay I'm off work! Here's all the otome blogs I follow! (some are also lolita, but they post otome too!)
http://lundora.tumblr.com/
http://dollhouserose.tumblr.com/
http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/
http://kairii.tumblr.com/
http://sheemasherry.tumblr.com/
http://lemontree11.tumblr.com/
http://angiiichan.tumblr.com/
http://tart-an-sweet.tumblr.com/
http://littlegaly.tumblr.com/ (jfashion hair and makeup tutorial translations)

[Anonymous No.8231388]

>>8230161
Plumprimo has a few things that could work for otome, and then modcloth has some things too. Sorry I can't really post any coords, I can't find any. I'm a chubby girl getting into the fashion too, the only brand stuff I'm looking into getting is skirts since I have a small waist.

[Anonymous No.8231654]

>>8230947
Hime/himekaji are separate from otome. Some sweet gyaru brands make things that work for otome and other fashions but their main focus isn't otome.

[Anonymous No.8231677]

I am trying to build up a list of shops that sell otome-able tights / good tights in general. Any suggestions? Thank you!

[Anonymous No.8231684]

Boy has Otome got popular now, a lot of lolitas in my comm have started adjusting their wardrobes for it. Is it the case in most comms?
And if so, why is it getting more popular?

[Anonymous No.8231692]

>>8231684
>why is it getting more popular?
I think it's because it's a lot easier to pass it off as generically cute normalfag clothing. Also, lolita is a bit of a commitment in that it's not something you can slap on and rush out of the house, whereas otome, if you have enough pieces, you can get away with that because it's a lot less "I bought these specific shoes for this specific outfit and these tights can only be worn with these three dresses."

[Anonymous No.8231794]

>>8230430
Gathered some stuff for you!

[Anonymous No.8231798]

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[Anonymous No.8231805]

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[Anonymous No.8231807]

>>8231684
I feel as I get older I still want to be able to use my lolita clothing but be able to wear it to the office or whatever... I'm almost 30 now and I'd like to be able to keep wearing my shit and look GOOD in it for a long time to come.

[Anonymous No.8231808]

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[Anonymous No.8231829]

>>8231822
And that's all I saved, hope you enjoy!~

[Anonymous No.8232468]

>>8231684
Can't speak for anyone else, but for me, and another lolita I spoke to, I'm getting older, trying to focus on my career, so I don't have much time to go all out dressing up. The only reason I can justify spending such ridiculous amount on frilly japanese dresses is if I can wear them more casually. Otome is very close to my daily, girly style, and I prefer the quirkyness over the matchy-matchy ness that's so prevalent in lolita.

[Anonymous No.8232570]

>>8231684
Otome makes me feel more comfortable, both in the 'not having to be that frilly weirdo' sense and in terms of physical comfort. I don't have to spend as long getting ready or be as fussy with how matchy my outfits are. Not to mention lots of pieces are much cheaper than lolita second hand so I don't feel so precious about wearing them.
Also otome doesn't have as many politics as lolita, which makes wearing it more fun.

[Anonymous No.8232574]

[Anonymous No.8232576]

>>8232574
I want this dress so bad. Also, what does everyone think of Leur Getter in general? They don't seem that popular, which is baffling to me because I love pretty much everything they put out.

[Anonymous No.8232578]

>>8231692
>"I bought these specific shoes for this specific outfit and these tights can only be worn with these three dresses."
putting it that way, lolita sounds autist as fuck

[Anonymous No.8232581]

>>8232570
This. Otome is so much more wearable, not just because it looks less out of place in public, but also because it's cheaper, less bulky and doesn't make you have a panic attack every time you put together a coord. it's more of an aesthetic that I wear than a hobby/community and it makes it a lot less stressful on the daily

[Anonymous No.8232583]

>>8232468
>>8231807
Yeah but the funny thing is, a few of these people making the adjustment I've seen are in their early twenties, even 18 and 19 year olds.

[Anonymous No.8232600]

>>8232576
Oh gosh that print is so cute

>i need sweets
>i need this dress

[Anonymous No.8232677]

>>8232583
I'm >>8232581 and I just turned 22. however I have a full time office job (burando has got to come from somewhere). you don't have to be 30 to need a more mature, wearable look than lolita. honestly lolita for anything even close to daily wear only works for certain professions, part time workers and/or college students.

[Anonymous No.8232812]

>>8232576
They're pretty new, I think they just celebrated their first anniversary. I love all their stuff too though, one of my top dream dresses is by them.

[Anonymous No.8232929]

>>8232570
This, i feel this is a legit reason to why a lot of people look into otome. Even the girls who wear the 'holy bible' of otome, Jane Marple, are not stuck up brand whores like some AP ladies.

Also you'll find for the same price as AP, alot of otome brands are 'made in japan'.

In the end, Otome = Easily, fun colours, simple.... and you actually get your monies worth out of an item since you'll prob wear it more than once.

[Anonymous No.8232939]

>>8232929
Along that line of thought, otome pieces are easier to incorporate into non-otome outfits. I wore a JM skirt last week with a turtleneck and flats to a family event. Everyone loved it, and I felt like I got some use out of my expensive j-fash items. I just have trouble seeing the value of building a whole wardrobe you never wear.

[Anonymous No.8233024]

>>8231684
Basically what everyone else has already said.

I've moved onto otome although I'm still holding onto a majority of my lolita items that fit my style. I used to admire those that wore Jane Marple but I could never afford it; now that I have a decent paying job and I've moved in with my boyfriend, I finally have the funds to buy the more expensive brands firsthand.

Also, otome is definitely more practical without bordering costume territory to normalfags. There's less weird accessories (plastic jewelry, headpieces shaped in animals/desserts/veils), less "rules" (nobody bitches at you for not wearing a wig or your skirt being too short/not poofy enough), and more freedom to mix and match themes/colors. I wear it to work so I'm getting more uses out of the dresses instead of having them sit in my closet for months untouched.

I've also grown tired from the lolita community and keeping up with the latest updates.... AP was my first love and I'll always have a soft spot for them. I'm getting older but I don't want to move onto classic like most lolitas do when they outgrow sweet, so I've settled with a more mature version of sweet lolita in otome. I'm going to be wearing cakes and chocolate until I die, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.8233565]

What are some good places to get into the fashion with? I've been a jean and a t-shirt kind of girl for a long time but I've always wanted to wear dresses and stuff. Hand me downs from a pack of boys prevented me from doing so.

What are good online stores, brands, and even maybe some eBay and aliexpress links to look into?

[Anonymous No.8233605]

I don't know much about this fashion, what makes an outfit otome? What elements are nedded? It doesn't need petticoats, does it?

[Anonymous No.8233655]

>>8232583
I'm 18 and I have a much bigger otome wardrobe than lolita. Because I don't have a ton of money, I'd rather spend what I do have on clothes I can wear every day. With the way lolita's evolved, it's really hard to wear outside of meets and cons.

>>8230430
I'll try, anon, but most of the westerners who post a lot have really iffy taste.

[Anonymous No.8233666]

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[Anonymous No.8233672]

>>8233666
I think this girl's white.

[Anonymous No.8233676]

>>8233565
Honestly, if you've never worn a dress before, just go to a mall and find a nice basic dress that you like in H&M or F21. See if you like it. Then you can go online and buy more stuff.

[Anonymous No.8233677]

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[Anonymous No.8233681]

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[Anonymous No.8233684]

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[Anonymous No.8233685]

>>8233676
Oh I've worn dresses before and it makes me feel like a princess. Jeans make me feel icky. That's why I'm so interested! I don't think I would like all the accessories and rules that come with lolita and it's why I want to try out otome.

[Anonymous No.8233689]

>>8233684
obligatory

[Anonymous No.8233696]

>>8233024
Yeah, i have the same thoughts about otome. I won't quit lolita because i'm getting serious this year with more pieces and with sweet and some gothic. I dont like to go into classic, it's too mature and granny like while otome is way cuter and it has sweet prints with food or bunnies/bears/cats and of course more pratical and cheaper. But still, i feel i struggle to find for cheap cardigans/bolero.

[Anonymous No.8233708]

Can i coord this AP salo in a otome way? I have already a red loliable cardigan, a straw bag with a sequined bow in gold, ivory tights with strawberries, flats or lolita shoes and a blouse or a AP cutsew. I will try to do a collage later.

[Anonymous No.8233709]

>>8233708
Ops i forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.8233722]

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[Anonymous No.8233724]

>>8233684
>>8230542
>>8230447
Requesting more lolita dresses being worn as otome-kei

[Anonymous No.8233745]

>>8233685

If you want to get into otome, it's a lot more than putting a cute dress on. Pic related is just literally putting cute things on, and doing nothing in the way of coordination, makeup, or hair. It looks terrible.

Otome is a weird balance of looking effortlessly put together. I think it's actually harder than lolita, where guidelines generally steer you in the right direction. Otome on the other hand is a feeling. While you don't need to look regimented and have to worry about different shades of pinks, you do need to pay very close attention to details that make or break the coordinate. I don't think a lot of newbies get this, and that's why so many 'otome' coordinates are so fucking blah.

You also need to look well groomed as well. Put on some makeup, comb your hair and do whatever to make it look presentable, or else you'll look way too casual even for otome and you'll get washed out by your clothes.

Anyways, welcome to otome. And just remember, these are tips to look good - if you just want to enjoy it, you don't have to do all that, but keep in mind if you post you always run the chance of getting criticized.

[Anonymous No.8233747]

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[Anonymous No.8233751]

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[Anonymous No.8233776]

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[Anonymous No.8233784]

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[Anonymous No.8233794]

>>8233784
transitioning into
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[Anonymous No.8233798]

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[Anonymous No.8233814]

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[Anonymous No.8233824]

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[Anonymous No.8233849]

>>8233794
thanks anon!!

[Anonymous No.8233862]

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[Anonymous No.8233949]

What are some key words I can use to search up good otome dresses and skirts?

[Anonymous No.8234080]

>>8232929
I wear JM and am a stuck-up brandwhore

[Anonymous No.8234094]

>>8234080
You're just a special c*nt.

[Anonymous No.8234455]

>>8233745
new to j-fash but a considerable veteran of normalfag fashion. I've done enough lurking to get the general idea down (think a solid two years of lurking--I'm extremely thorough).

have any tips for newbies who know how to do hair, makeup, develop color palettes, etc? are there any obvious newb mistakes that aren't solved by a simple knowledge of fashion basics? I don't know, I feel like I'm going to fuck up here

[Anonymous No.8234911]

>>8234455
Different anon. Anyone can give any advice for someone on what to look out for when shopping for otome kei dresses/skirts in mainstream normalfag stores? I want to integrate some normalfag dresses into an otome kei wardrobe, but I am not quite sure if it will pass as otome kei.

[Anonymous No.8235057]

>>8230514
WOW, I am so flattered by how many of y'all that have followed me! I'm even more inspired and nervous to put my first coords together now ahaha...

Also be honest with me, I've been looking into fully shirred/elastic waisted skirts from JM, ETC, and Leur. With an 88 cm waist could those work for me or should I save my money? I don't expect to fit into any brand ops or jsks, but I'd love to buy some form of brand!
(If nothing else I'll hunt down brand shoes/accessories, at least I've got small feet!)

[Anonymous No.8235138]

Here's the brand list from previous threads:

Main otome brands:
>Jane Marple
>Emily Temple Cute/Shirley Temple Cute
>Leur Getter
>MILK

Misc brands:
>Amavel
>Fint
>Axes Femme
>Peppermint Fox (indie)
>Lois Crayon
>Mina Prehonen
>Ank Rogue
>Franche Lippee
>Melantrick Hemlighet
>bortsprungt
>Q-pot
>Excentrique
>Grimoire (mainly their accessories and Verum line)
>Candy Stripper
>Wonder Rocket
>Cath Kidston
>Lolita brands like AP and IW. (some of their accessories, legwear, bags, and sometimes their mini skirts + boleros work)

Normalfag:
>Alannah Hill
>Modcloth
>Dangerfield
>Sock Dreams
>Melissa Shoes
>bait footwear (vintage inspired designs)
>dkode shoes (quirky but mature. Might work with mature outfits?)

[Anonymous No.8235157]

>>8235138
And here's an updated version of the tumblr list:

-General Blogs
http://axesfemme.tumblr.com/

http://emikyuforever.tumblr.com/

http://emilytemplecute.tumblr.com/

http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/

http://otomestyle.tumblr.com/

http://otomeclub.tumblr.com/

-Individual Blogs
I've put a little description of each, but most of them are a lolita and otome mix.

http://sugarypinkcupcake.tumblr.com/(More quirky otome styling - Plays with colour and pattern, owns/wears ETC, JM and Q-pot)

http://xylia-x.tumblr.com/ (Mainly classic lolita, but is posting more otome outfits)

http://pinkstrawberrytea.tumblr.com/ (OC coords. ETC and AP)

http://altered-imagery.tumblr.com (OC coords and hauls. ETC, AP, and IW)

http://endless8.tumblr.com/ (OC coords and hauls. ETC, JM)

http://fannyrosie.tumblr.com/ (A bit of a grey area, but her outfits can be quite inspiring. Classic lolita brands and offbrand)

http://kaya-kueh.tumblr.com/ (very casual, plays with colour and pattern. Wears ETC, JM, AP)

http://sinneddonuts.tumblr.com/ (wears a lot of choc/cookie stuff. ETC, AP, JM, other different brands)

http://spaceandroid.tumblr.com/ (Uses mainly off brand, rather inactive)

http://herajika.tumblr.com/ (Obvious inclusion but not very active. ETC, lolita brands)

http://sapphira-doll.tumblr.com/ (Another grey area. Wears mainly lolita brands)

http://angiiichan.tumblr.com/ (Darker colours to pastels. ETC and AP)

http://sakuraimayura.tumblr.com/ (Very inactive, but they have some cute outfits in their archive. ETC, JM and lolita brands)

http://mademoiselle-iona.tumblr.com/ (More lolita than anything, but their outfits are nice. Mainly IW.)

http://lilythdark.tumblr.com/ (Lolita and otome OC, full body mirror shots)

[Anonymous No.8235497]

I wish Girlonsunday would post more otome kei outfits because she has a lot of pieces for it and appears to wear the style almost on a daily basis.

Will forever be jealous of Infiniteneeya's Jane Marple hauls.

[Anonymous No.8235599]

>>8235057
I think you're gonna have difficulty anon cause the dresses have 88cm busts usually. Skirts tend to be smaller in the waist than the dresses. You could probably get away with some of the sack dresses ETC releases or high waisted leur getter JSKs. I could measure stuff for you later and check.

[Anonymous No.8235629]

>>8235138
>Alannah Hill.
No.

[Anonymous No.8235645]

>>8234094
Well tbh I don't see the Otome comm as any different from the Lolita one. There is just as much hate and brandwhores in both.

[Anonymous No.8235728]

>>8235629
It's slim pickings atm, but they often have suitable cardigans, blouses, and accessories. I wouldn't recommend them for main pieces though.
I normally mention their history of knocking off designs (namely ETC and Meta) but I figured the otome thread regulars were sick of hearing about it.

Pic related is some of their current items that would work in otome outfits.

[Anonymous No.8235898]

I'm thinking of ordering a Balmoral from Christy's, but I measure 58cm - right between Medium & Large. Is it better I go a size up or down?
particularly http://www.christys-hats.com/women/special-women/gift-ideas-for-her/for-her/ladies-balmoral-navy-moleskin
>tfw there's no local haberdashery for fine handmade English hats to try on

[Anonymous No.8236186]

>>8235599
Ahhh alright, I'd appreciate measurements of your stuff! I want to wear the fashion as a comfortable daily thing so I'm not interested in wearing things that absolutely don't fit like I see some plus size lolitas doing. I saw some people on lacemarket write that some skirts had a waist range up to 100cm though, so I thought I'd look into it. I know I fit into US Large skirts when they're only fitted at the waist.
(pic is AP but it would be so cute in a red x blue otome coord)

[Anonymous No.8236299]

>>8236186
This skirt goes up to 100cm, but it won't look so good if you're anywhere near the max.

[Anonymous No.8236311]

>>8236299
I'm at 88cm so I dunno how that would be.

[Anonymous No.8236315]

>>8236311
It sounds like you shouldn't draw attention to your waist.

[Anonymous No.8236324]

>>8236315
I'm a fatty (sorry if you didn't catch that), my waist is the narrowest part of my body. But anyways I'd appreciate any skirts recs, but I also understand if I'm just out of luck with otome brands.

[Anonymous No.8236456]

>>8236324
I have this skirt and I'm at a similar waist size, it doesn't look very flattering. The stripped front part won't be wide enough to reach your side where it's supposed to be, and the waist band kinda digs in. I stopped wearing it for not until I lose enough weight.

[Anonymous No.8236506]

>>8230079
Blogs you recommend for Otome inspo? I love Un Gatto nero!

[Anonymous No.8236527]

Request for otome kei coords in darker color ways? (Preferably black)

[Anonymous No.8236676]

>>8236456
if you are looking to accentuate a smaller waist (regardless of size), large panel waists are a terrible way to go. sick with something with a smaller waistband

[Anonymous No.8236713]

Where are some good places to buy otome secondhand besides auction sites?

Is there a western secondhand community?

[Anonymous No.8236794]

>>8235138
source on that dress? i don't even care if the scallops are as wonky as they look in the pic, i need this on my body

[Anonymous No.8236825]

>>8236794
same. actually that whole coord. like 10 minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.8236853]

>>8236794
>>8236825
Leur Getter

[Anonymous No.8237275]

>>8236456
Alright thanks for the headsup!

>>8236676
I've actually got some stuff like that I'm fond of, like this plumprimo skirt. (Which isn't otome I know) I appreciate the advice though!
sage for being OT

[Anonymous No.8237621]

What're some cute glasses styles that suit otome?

[Anonymous No.8237732]

What is your favorite bag to use in otome coords?

Pic related, I can't let go of these biscuits.

[Anonymous No.8237789]

>>8236713
Lacemarket, EGL comm sales

[Anonymous No.8237851]

Please help me shop, I'm bad at making decisions. About to make a closet child order but I'm having a toss up between two cardis and dresses. Max is 20000 and I want some warm stuff since I melted my favourite jacket cooking. I'd love the AP chocolate coat but I'd want the macaron dress to go with it, and since there are so many on the site I could probably get it at a later date without worrying about it selling out. Stuff isn't necessarily to go with the specific dresses but I think the red cardigan and red riding hood dress could be cute together. Both would fit fine in my wardrobe, empire waists look good on me.
Not sure if this is something more for the coord help thread but since it's not making a coord...

[Anonymous No.8238280]

>>8237851
Personally I'd get the red riding hood dress with the red cardi + the white jacket. That way I get pink, red and white coloured items instead of all pink.
That's the way I shop anyway, I try to get items in other colours instead of sticking to just one.
Aesthetically tho, I'd get the pink jacket. I don't mind the white, but pink has more structure... but if white is cheaper, I'd still get that one.

[Anonymous No.8238376]

>>8238280
Pink is 1400 cheaper, and thanks for that!

[Anonymous No.8238454]

>>8238376
Got the pink fluffy jacket, rrh dress and red cardigan. Also tacked this jacket on for...reasons.

[Anonymous No.8238460]

>>8230079
Does that ribbon the cardigan go all the way around the back? I think I might DIY it.

[Anonymous No.8238470]

>>8238460
quote the wrong person? You may wanna lurk more before posting, fyi.

[Anonymous No.8238471]

>>8238470
Uh, no.. look at the girl on the right.

[Anonymous No.8238472]

>>8238470
Not that anon, but I think they're asking if the green ribbon on the cardigan, on the right outfit extends around the back.
Stop being so condescending.

[Anonymous No.8238477]

>>8238470
someone needs to learn to read more fyi

[Anonymous No.8238479]

>>8238472
shit sorry I missed that, I'm on mobile and that picture is washed out.
More helpful: Definitely continue it around the whole collar, it would look awkward cut off.

[Anonymous No.8238490]

I was looking into Lily of the Valley, and wondered what other small, quality indie brands where out there?

[Anonymous No.8238511]

>>8238472
Alright, probably was a little bit of a dumb question! But I remember a lot of knitted tops for example don't extend to the back, like some Aran sweaters so I thought I'd ask.

[Anonymous No.8238533]

>>8235057

You would fit into JM skirts with fully elasticized waists, but not any of the other waist styles, but I don't know if they'd be comfortable. Also, the skirts JM release with fully elasticized waists are most often calf length, so that may not work for you either. JM fully elasticized 'mini' length skirts would fit very short on you, which you also may or may not be comfortable with.

ETC skirts with fully elasticized waistbands would have the same issues as JM minis - they'd sit really short on you. I have the ETC Rabbit Ballerina skirt pictured up-thread and the fit on me is short enough to make me feel uncomfortable, and that's with a 58cm waist. I have a long torso though, which makes my fit issues worse. If you have a short torso you may be able to make the minis work for you.

Maybe try to find whatever JM skirt length you'd be interested in on auctions and just give it a try? Don't buy new until you know they work for you though, because JM items don't hold their value in the Western second hand market so you can't count on selling items that don't work for you. Also, try to aim for items from JM's 'Dans le Salon' line if you can, because the fit on them is a bit bigger.

[Anonymous No.8238546]

>>8238533
You're wonderful, thanks for the honest advice!! I was looking at older used stuff on a rakuten shop called Grand Bazaar, their pricing seemed very reasonable, so I'll grab one or two "tester" skirts from there.
Also yeah I saw the Salon label on stuff, what is that exactly??

[Anonymous No.8238604]

>>8238546

No problem - I'm glad I was able to help you out! My wardrobe can essentially be divided into 'Jane Marple skirts' and 'other' so if you have any questions about specific prints or fits I may be able to answer them.

Grand Bazaar is great for second hand JM and their pricing is very reasonable - picking up some tester skirts from them sounds like a good approach.

Also, one good thing about JM is that they are very consistent in their sizing - if you fit in a fully elasticized skirt from them and you like the way it looks on you, you can feel pretty confident that any other skirts in the same style they release in the future will be fine as well. Watch out for skirts that have solid waistbands in the front and elastic at the back though - the back elastic tends to bunch up and the whole thing sits awkwardly. They don't seem to release many skirts in that style though, so they're easy to avoid.

Dans le Salon is JM's diffusion line aimed more at a slightly older, more mature clientele, so the clothes are a bit more appropriate for everyday wear and work situations. Because the line is aimed at a slightly older clientele, the cuts of the pieces and the sizing is a bit more flexible.

[Anonymous No.8238699]

>>8233672
Depends on what you consider white. She's Brazilian.

[Anonymous No.8238846]

>>8238490
Hey, I was looking into indie otome brands too! So far I've really only found Peppermint Fox, but all the dresses on their website are sold out, really hope they will have a new collection out soon. Would be happy if anyone else could share other brands too.

[Anonymous No.8238928]

>>8237732
Pic related. It's huge, and a threeway bag, it's practical and super sturdy. I'll have to hunt down another one once it dies on me because I use it all the time.

[Anonymous No.8238930]

>>8230079
>>8230090
>>8230098
>>8230099
>>8230248
>>8230245
>>8230250
>>8231798
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>>8232574
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>>8235138
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>>8235497
>>8238490

Can we stop pretending 'nice dress with a cardigan' is it's own style?. Ya'll got any originality or is dress+cardigan the only way to be otome?

[Anonymous No.8239000]

>>8238930
It's the prints, colors, and styling that make it different from mainstream clothing. There are a few coords with shorts and pants but they aren't very common.

[Anonymous No.8239004]

>>8238930
I think they all still have lolita on the brain.
Stuff like no blouse, pants and bare legs are a foreign item to them.

[Anonymous No.8239042]

>>8239000
>>8239004
Alright then, here's a pants pic dump

[Anonymous No.8239044]

>>8239042

[Anonymous No.8239049]

>>8238930
How about you stop complaining and contribute then?
Anyway, dumping what I have.

[Anonymous No.8239051]

>>8239044

[Anonymous No.8239053]

>>8239049

[Anonymous No.8239055]

>>8239051

[Anonymous No.8239056]

>>8239053
These are all Jane Marple ads by the way.

[Anonymous No.8239057]

>>8239056

[Anonymous No.8239058]

>>8239055

[Anonymous No.8239060]

>>8239058

[Anonymous No.8239064]

>>8239060

[Anonymous No.8239066]

>>8239064
/dump ended

[Anonymous No.8239070]

>>8239057

[Anonymous No.8239081]

>>8239070
Okay, I'm out. Have a random one.

[Anonymous No.8239326]

Can I request for some sailor-themed otome coords? I want to be prepared for the summertime.

[Anonymous No.8239348]

>>8238604
Can you give me the average length of the JM mini skirts? And the ETC ones? Also do you think a laceyunderskirt type thing a few inches longer work under them?

[Anonymous No.8239364]

I think i should buy ETC shit rather than AP, also otome could be worn without petti and no problems about unmatching shades of pink, red, whatever. Please can i have more country themed, red or pink ETC coordinates? I'm planning to have a country otome theme in my wardrobe because i don't look good in browns, tans and dusty colors. Also, normalfag flats are ok into otome fashion? I have some pastel warm pink ones that i think would fit.

[Anonymous No.8239449]

>>8238930
bitch if you see dresses with fucking biscuits all over them, polka dot knee socks or purses shaped like tea kettles at your average store come hit me up. otherwise sit your crusty ass down

[Anonymous No.8239468]

>>8239070
you are a god/goddess (whichever you prefer) and my summer wardrobe thanks you

[Anonymous No.8239489]

>>8238604
Also I'm buying this skirt! The length they listed seems plenty long on me, but I'm also only 5' 3"

[Anonymous No.8239491]

>>8239489
DANG. I was looking at that one. have fun :)

[Anonymous No.8239507]

>>8239489
And this ETC skirt, a bit less WOW for me but it's super cheap!

[Anonymous No.8239538]

>>8239507
And finally threw in a JM necklace for fun!! Baby's first brand, I'm excited!!

[Anonymous No.8239556]

>>8239489
>>8239507
>>8239538

cute!!!

[Anonymous No.8239566]

>>8238930
It's not the cut of the clothes that makes it different. It's the colour and patterns which makes it look quirky and whimsical.

[Anonymous No.8239569]

>>8239491
lmao as soon as I saw this I was like "Shitshitshit gotta checkout 'gulls are ruthless!" (Thanks for not sniping me though)

[Anonymous No.8239574]

>>8239569
haha I'm not that cruel, especially if you are specifically looking for full shirring. I'm glad you found some things you liked! I'm just happy to find out about Grand Bazaar... I'm starting an otome wardrobe too and I'm definitely going to be stocking up this weekend

[Anonymous No.8239583]

>>8239574
I just stumbled onto it yesterday but I was sooo happy because lacemarket prices had been making me balk, and there's not a lot of selection. I also saw some other rakuten stores selling second hand JM and ETC stuff, probably worth checking out! I know shipping isn't going to be cheap, but I think it would be worth it if you're getting several things! Happy hunting anon, let us know what you buy.~

[Anonymous No.8239590]

anyone know how wide JM hems are? I'm looking at a used skirt that might be a tad bit short, but if there's a wide enough hem I can take it out

[Anonymous No.8239619]

>>8239590
pic of skirt?

[Anonymous No.8239628]

>>8239619
I know it's wrinkled and worn to hell but I've done better with worse

[Anonymous No.8239645]

>>8239628
it looks like a 1 1/2" hem. so you may have 1 3/8" to 2" of extra.

[Anonymous No.8239651]

>>8239645
perfect. I just needed an extra inch or two out of it

[Anonymous No.8239834]

>>8238604
I had no idea Dans le Salon was their larger line! Is there a way to know which series the dresses are from? Lolibrary doesn't differentiate the two so I bought a dress that is WAYY too big for me - like 5 inches too big in the bust. I was so upset because I have a few dresses from JM that fit me just fine so I thought the sizing was rather strange.

[Anonymous No.8240268]

>>8239081
Hnnnnngg, I need this stupid dress. It's so fucking cute and perfect for an "art pop" themed charity event I was invited to.

goddammit.

[Anonymous No.8240377]

Any one have any good skirt coords pics?

[Anonymous No.8240982]

>>8239348

Hey, sorry for the wait - I thought that taking some photos for you would be the most helpful approach, so I needed a bit more time to get that done.

First, JM gathered minis that look like this (pic) are 45cm long. They're pretty ubiquitous, and there will generally be one available for each print. However, JM will often turn an all-over print into a border print when it comes to these guys, so make sure you know how they're doing the print before you buy.

[Anonymous No.8240993]

>>8239348

Second, for the sake of comparison, are some medium skirts. The Strawberry Label skirt is a 'Midi' skirt and is 57cm long. I'm 164cm tall and it hits me right below the knee. This length isn't typical, and it doesn't pop up much. The Royal Order skirt, at 64cm, is JM's typical length for their medium/long skirts, and these ones are calf length on me.

[Anonymous No.8241001]

>>8239348

Last, the ETC mini I mentioned vs a Dans le Salon mini. Apart from Rabbit Ballerina print I only have ETC fixed waist skirts in my wardrobe these days, so I didn't really have anything else to compare it to. The ETC is 43cm long, while the DLS mini is 50cm.

Generally anything JM marks as 'mini' will be 44.5 - 47cm long, while the next shortest length will be 50 - 54cm long. I don't have much experience with underskirts, but if it's something pretty in a matching colour then I don't see why it wouldn't work. There's just as much material in most JM skirts as there is in a J et J or IW skirt, so it wouldn't be a volume issue.

[Anonymous No.8241005]

>>8239834

If you're buying second hand it can be really hand to tell, unfortunately. The swing tags are different, so if an item is NWT you can see what line it's from (DLS on the right). But otherwise you need to check out the preview and collection books on the JM website before the collections for each season release, because that's pretty much the only place that JM vs DLS is clearly marked.

[Anonymous No.8241010]

>>8239489

That's a lovely choice anon - JM's greens and navy blues are gorgeous in person and I credit them with curing me of my addiction to all black everything.

I'm 164cm/5'4 and that style of skirt hits my right at the knee, so it should be an ideal starting point for you.

[Anonymous No.8241064]

>>8240982
>>8240993
>>8241001
You are such a sweetheart anon this is all so helpful for me!! I feel like the JM minis seem safe, the ETC minis look dangerous without an underskirt, midis would be nice, and the longer skirts are probably too long for my tastes.
I can easily make myself some coordinating underskirts as needed. I plan on sewing a lot of stuff for otome since I won't fit a lot of brand. (So far I've just made an OP, but I've got fabric for two more OPs and a skirt!)

>>8241010
Ahhh yeah the colors caught my eye imediately! The seller already shipped it, I'm so excited to get it in a few days! Fingers crossed it fits, but I think I'll be okay.

And again I appreciate all your advice and knowledge so much anon! I'd really love to see some of your coords or even just more wardobe pictures, you have good tastes!

[Anonymous No.8241699]

>>8237621
Still wondering about this...

[Anonymous No.8241979]

>>8237621
Vintage style frames I guess? You can either go for something subdued (wire/half frame) in brown, gold, etc. which will be versatile and won't take away from your outfit -or- quirky plastic frames (ray-ban, square, round) in fun colours like white, red, pink..

Coming from a person who has plastic black rectangular frames (I hate them. I'm getting new frames soon)

[Anonymous No.8242412]

>>8241979
I already own these, but I'm planning on buying sunglasses and a third pair soon (looove zennioptical and their cheap frames)
I was thinking some brown or metal frames. Either brownlines like you posted or some round ones. Hmm... Maybe I'll try to pick some choices out to ask you guys about.

[Anonymous No.8242493]

I want to start otome but i'm unsure about blouses. No collar lolita blouses like this would work in a spaghetti strap jsk?Or better i buy a simple peter pan blouse? I don't know much which blouses would be good enough for otome.

[Anonymous No.8242947]

>>8242493
Peter pan would be a better starter but something like this would be fine with the neck ties removed I think.

[Anonymous No.8242959]

>>8237621

[Anonymous No.8242968]

>>8231677
please suggestions on this!

[Anonymous No.8243072]

>>8242959
Ahh I really like that style!! I know that zenni sells round ones but I think they're smaller...
hmm, do you guys think I could pull off the round glasses? And yes I'm a fatty-chan.

[Anonymous No.8243442]

>>8243072
I think so! You are adorable anon!

[Anonymous No.8243739]

>>8242947
I have two other offbrand blouses (one white, one ivory) that are similar in look but with no neck ties, only waist ties. I saw also a cute blouse very simple and suitable for otome and lolita, but idk how is the quality. Pic related. The taobao shop i think it's called mumu lolita.

[chubcakes No.8243929]

>>8243442
Thank you!!
So I have the choice of brown, black, silver, or gold. I'm thinking gold or brown?

[Anonymous No.8243935]

>>8243929
I vote gold. it doesn't mess with black based coords down the road and I think would compliment your features well

[Anonymous No.8243939]

>>8243929
whoops so much for anonymity

>>8243739
Those look cute anon, I think those would be versatile for lolita and otome!
Pussy bow blouses are another cute style you can use for otome.

[Anonymous No.8243951]

>>8243739
>mumu lolita
kek

[Anonymous No.8244344]

Love these lolita dresses worn otome-style. I wonder how irritated people would get if they weren't cute Japanese girls though(?).

[Anonymous No.8244369]

>>8244344
I think these are very cute and otome, especially the right one!

[Anonymous No.8244513]

>>8244344
They're cute outfits. They'd still be cute on other girls. I really like the left one personally!

[Anonymous No.8244885]

>>8243929
I'm back oops (last time I hope!!), turns out those were way smaller than what I want.
So now I'm picking between these two (in gold)
>http://www.zennioptical.com/metal-alloy-full-rim-eyeglass-frames-653014.html
>Smaller, Oval
>http://www.zennioptical.com/metal-alloy-full-rim-eyeglass-frame-650811.html
>Larger, Not Quite a Circle

[Anonymous No.8244893]

>>8243739
Ooh girl they kawaii. How well fitted are they? I love chiffon blouses, but I always encounter saggy underarms hanging out when worn with a jsk.

Lol that sounds gross

[Anonymous No.8244907]

So in love with the new Jane Marple series

[Anonymous No.8246439]

>>8244885
I like the second one in gold

[Anonymous No.8246459]

>>8244907
It's a remake with an old ribbon pattern of theirs.

[Anonymous No.8247948]

>>8244893
I'm not sure, i wonder the same thing! I can't find the original taobao link or it's sold out, i hope not!

[Anonymous No.8248196]

Are there any active otome groups/communities anywhere online? I just joined otome closet but it seems like posts there are infrequent.

[Anonymous No.8248333]

>>8242412
Just looking around cgl because bored, but I have to say thanks. Never heard of zennioptical before, I am in love.

[Anonymous No.8248339]

>>8243072
Check out a blog called tree-house nation.
The girl who runs it has a chubby face but uses the round glasses alot.

[Anonymous No.8248642]

>>8248333
They're sooo good. I'm also getting these frames as sunglasses!

[Anonymous No.8248644]

>>8248339
Ahh yeah I love that girl! This is one of my favorites of hers (and favorite otome outfits in general).

[Anonymous No.8249275]

>>8230447
Pic not mine
I wore my AATP jsk who killed the cockrobin in Bordeaux with a wine colored knitted turtle neck, black stockings and dark red flats.

[Anonymous No.8249288]

>>8242959
Sauce on these size round frames in a prescription? When they're too small I run the risk of looking like Harry Potter.

[Anonymous No.8249304]

>>8238490
The Black Ribbon has a cute cardigan out right now and has talked about doing an Otome dress recently though I haven't seen any news on that front lately.

[Anonymous No.8249634]

Just found out I completely missed this dress when it came out. Damn, it's so cute too. It seems to be available in white still, though, if anyone's interested? >>8235057 maybe? It's supposed to easily fit an 88cm waist.

http://rococosoul.storenvy.com/products/10621176-rococo-soul-jam-paradise-jsk-pre-order

[Anonymous No.8249667]

>>8249634
Those measurements are pretty big. Is it meant to be plus sized or a large? Even the minimums are like 5-12cm bigger than me and that looks awkward with shirring. I'm really not that small or petite either.
Well I suppose it's high waist but even then 7cm under minimum with shirring might be awkward. Would be a bit short too but that's ok for otome.
Not that anon obviously... I'm still kinda tempted because the print is so adorable and its surprisingly cheap for indie.

[Anonymous No.8249680]

>>8249634
>macaroon

why are people still doing this?

Man, I really want this, and I can afford it, but I have to put my money into responsible adult shit and I already have plans for a small vacation.

I don't get the sizing either. I guess it wouldn't hurt shooting her an email about it.

[Anonymous No.8249689]

>>8249680
I noticed that too haha. I just assumed they meant the chunky coconut ones since you can eat them with jam anyway... well that's what I tell myself because it tends to piss me off.

[Anonymous No.8249754]

>>8249634
Oooh thanks for the headsup, I get paid this weekend if it still has preorders left I just might. My bust is a bit big (114cm) but it should be fine with the shirring?

[Anonymous No.8249786]

Just found this on ebay. I'm buying it and I'll report back in a couple of weeks/months!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261809089105?var=560672284787

[Anonymous No.8249809]

>>8249288
If you're willing to pay there's these
>http://www.framesdirect.com/framesfp/Savile_Row-tekamf/r.html
Otherwise I reccomend these rounded ones from zenni
>http://www.zennioptical.com/women/Frame-Shape-Round/_/metal-alloy-full-rim-eyeglass-frame-650814.html?_windowid=new
>tfw you're getting sunglasses and glasses for less than that first pair.
>Zenni optical is so op

[Anonymous No.8249815]

>>8232576
Do you need that sweet biscuit?

[Anonymous No.8249822]

>>8238930
i love you

[Anonymous No.8251314]

I am working on my first otome coord and I am super excited! My bust is a little too big for brand cardigans though. Any suggestions on where to get nice sweaters? I am looking for a nice cropped one right now, but I would love to fine some with cute details like ETC has.

[Anonymous No.8251321]

>>8238930

>intentionally post bad example of otome
>get quoted as not having a good idea of what otome is

Reading comprehension, you need it.

[Anonymous No.8251342]

>>8251314
I've seen cardigans with cute details at Target, F21, JCP (in the ladies, not the shitty juniors), you just have to shop around! They're more common in fall though.
I bought some plain ones I'm planning to add appliques and cute buttons to.

[Anonymous No.8251353]

>>8251342
The pins and buttons idea is great!
I will keep shopping around for the future, but I need this coord for next month so that is a good idea! Thank you.

[Anonymous No.8251426]

>>8251353
Ah I was talking about sewing appliques and replacing buttons, but using pins and brooches is another great idea! Thrift stores are a great place to find those for cheap.

[Anonymous No.8251656]

Wait... Some people in this thread will honestly pay $200+ for a modcloth style dress simple A line dress just because of the Yuwa Fabric pattern?

I really like Otome, but moreso because if played right it has a unique and delicate silhouette. To say you just like it because 'omg it has biscuits on it i am so fat i need food even on my clothes' is fucking retarded. Some of the prints are repetitive and downright boring. (books on repeat, cutlery on repeat, etc) If a print is the only reason to get into an entire hyper expensive fashion style then dude, spare yourself some money and just go to modcloth.

[Anonymous No.8251658]

>>8251656

[Anonymous No.8251745]

>>8251656
>hyper expensive
kek.

[Anonymous No.8251761]

>>8249634
I really wanted this, but my stupid shopping service guy from taobao spree kept responding to me with 'Are you sure you want this, it will take a long time to be made, do you know that?'.
And then reservations closed. I hate Ray from taobaospree so much.

[Anonymous No.8251768]

>>8251761
The reservations are still open for white! Also why do you need a SS to buy off of Storenvy?

[Anonymous No.8251771]

>>8251656
>Yuwa Fabric pattern


Hey so off topic, because no one cares about your shitty bait, but can someone tell me what this refers to? I googled all over the place and couldn't find an explanation of the term. Does it refer to the pattern or the width of the fabric or something?

[Anonymous No.8251791]

>>8251771
It means treats/sweets in Japanese

[Anonymous No.8251796]

>>8251771

>>8251771

It refers to fabric made by the japanese manufacturer yuwa. They have lots of cute prints that are loliable/otome-able.

>>8249634 actually utilises this kind of Japanese print.

[Anonymous No.8251798]

>>8251791
No it doesn't actually. Holy shit that's hilarious...

>>8251771
Yuwa is the brand of fabric.

[Anonymous No.8251823]

>>8251796
>>8251798

That explains the google results I was getting! Thanks. I kept seeing it in reference to really cute fabrics on Etsy, and I was trying to figure out what it was. Looking at the stuff they have, all of it is really cute.

[Anonymous No.8251831]

>>8251823
Yeah it's really lovely. I know a few shops that sell it to the west if you wanted links. They're not hard to find though.

[Anonymous No.8251856]

>>8251823

The fabric really inspires me to get better at my sewing. I just really love all the patterns they put out, whether it's more sweet or classic.

>>8251831

If you don't mind, could you dump the links please? Thanks in advance!

[Anonymous No.8251881]

>>8251856
http://www.jonesandvandermeer.com/categories/Fabric-Shop/Fabrics/By-Motif/Yuwa?sort=featured&page=1
>half and half mix of more trendy styles and good otome selection
http://www.pinkcastlefabrics.com/collections/manufacturer-yuwa?page=1
>bit less selection of otome styles, smaller selection all around

Shabby fabrics used to have some but they apparently had sold out and my other link seems to have disappeared.

[Anonymous No.8251888]

>>8251881

Thank you!

[Anonymous No.8252955]

>>8251881
You just made my night.

[Anonymous No.8253428]

>>8251768
Thank you anon, I saw that but white is really no good for my daily wear. It is beautiful though!
May none of you ever have to deal with Ray.

[Anonymous No.8253459]

>>8249634
I'm so torn now, do I preorder this, or spend money on fabric for making more of my own stuff?? (I'm the fatty chan who's been asking for advice, if that helps. The dress would definitely fit me)

[Anonymous No.8253535]

>>8238460

Hey, in case you're still around, the ribbon embellishment on the cardigan ends at the seams on top of the shoulders on either side. Hopefully I'm explaining that ok. Decoration on ETC cardigans is generally only on the front.

[Anonymous No.8253538]

>>8249634
Does anyone have a taobao link to this exact fabric? I think I saw it there once (or something very similar), but I forgot to save the link.

[Anonymous No.8253653]

>>8253459
depends on how frquently you want to wear otome, and also how much you (honestly) want to get recognized online for it. if you want to wear otome daily, spending money on more things to flesh out your wardrobe might be a good idea. if you want online popularity, brand might be a better fit.

also, otome brands don't resale as well, but you will more likely get back at least some of your money for brand (unlike homemade things)

otherwise it's up to you

[Anonymous No.8253662]

>>8249634
Luckily this is a literal knockoff of Jane Marple's Strawberry Label dress and you can buy that instead.

[Anonymous No.8253666]

>>8253653
Ahh I'm interested in otome as a daily style! If I get recognized that would be neat but I'm really just trying to have fun and dress cutely everyday! I've had a rough year off of college, and I'm going back in fall so I'm excited to put together an outfit everyday.
I don't quite get owning brand for the sake of brand? The brand pieces I admire/want have unique prints or construction. I adore the fabric on the Rococo dress which is why I was considering it!
Also I'm buying/making pieces I want to wear/keep, I don't really have the investment menality, though I understand.

Thank you for giving me pros and cons. I'm more iffy on the dress now hearing that the fabric may? be on taobao.

[Anonymous No.8253667]

>>8253662

It's not exactly a print knockoff though. She just found similar fabric from Yuwa and made a similar JSK. Maybe in design, but come on, simple A-line dresses are a dime a dozen these days.

[Anonymous No.8253766]

>>8253662
It's just a similar fabric, the cut is completely generic.

[Anonymous No.8254704]

Can people post more skirt coords? Please and thank you!

[Anonymous No.8257090]

>>8249634
Uggh I can't find that fabric anywhere. I did find this milk label fabric though.

[Anonymous No.8257090,1]

All right, I know this will probably be controversial but I'll give it a shot. Does anyone have examples of men wearing this? Could it look good at all? And I don't mean femboys, otherwise masculine men but just in this style of clothing. Or is there a masculine counterpart similar to lolita and ouji?