Otome Kei - Fall Edition

[Anonymous No.8556465]

Let's get into the fall mood and post some inspiration. What releases are looking forward to the most?


Blatantly stolen from a previous otome kei thread:

Main otome brands:
>Jane Marple
>Emily Temple Cute/Shirley Temple Cute
>Leur Getter
>MILK

Misc brands:
>Amavel
>Fint
>Axes Femme
>Peppermint Fox (indie)
>Lois Crayon
>Mina Prehonen
>Ank Rogue
>Franche Lippee
>Melantrick Hemlighet
>bortsprungt
>Q-pot
>Excentrique
>Grimoire (mainly their accessories and Verum line)
>Candy Stripper
>Wonder Rocket
>Cath Kidston
>Lolita brands like AP and IW. (some of their accessories, legwear, bags, and sometimes their mini skirts + boleros work)

Normalfag:
>Modcloth
>Dangerfield
>Sock Dreams
>Melissa Shoes
>bait footwear (vintage inspired designs)
>dkode shoes (quirky but mature. Might work with mature outfits?)

[Anonymous No.8556468]

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>>8556514
Short socks coord.

OK, I think that's the end of my dump.

[Anonymous No.8556569]

>excited for darker colors and layers
>still have about 2 months of 100+ degree weather

Even cooler otome outfits are too hot. ;_;

[Anonymous No.8556616]

I'm finally reaching the point in life of having grownup jobs in offices so I'm hoping to transition my wardrobe into otome office wear. My one problem is that I have a bunch of OTT sweet lolita (not to mention a decade's worth of normalfag clothes) in my closet taking up space and I'm hesitant to part with them. Lately I've been spending time on auctions buying up otome pieces for 1,000 yen or less but I don't know what to do when I physically run out of space for new stuff in my closet.

[Anonymous No.8556641]

>>8556468
fuck this is so beautiful

[Anonymous No.8556666]

https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/boards/cgl/img/0066/33/1361254104768.jpg
Was lurking in otome threads of many moons ago and found the otome starter pack. (Phone won't save pic sorry for the link)

[Anonymous No.8556777]

>>8556470

Can anyone post some more tartan/plaid otome pieces?

>>8556616
Take the pieces you don't want to keep, and put them in a box or separate them from the rest of your wardrobe. The ones that have not been worn or that you haven't thought of in six months to a years time, you can get rid of.

[Anonymous No.8556787]

>>8556616
Those space bags that you can vacuum seal are the best. You can put your summer stuff away for the season then switch it around, and they even work on storing coats.

[Anonymous No.8556842]

I want to be better at coording otome items but I always end up too matchy-matchy because I'm used to lolita. Any advice on how to avoid this?

[Anonymous No.8556923]

>>8556842
some of the common ways to coordinate in otome style is to use 'color popping' where a less prominent shade featured in say a jsk, is used in the accessories etc (pic related). Complimentary colors are also used rather than just say, exact color matching.

Patterns can clash as well, a good guide is not to mix say, stripes with stripes and instead combine with spots/dots instead.

I would recommend looking though otome galleries in general to help you absorb more of a sense of otome style and how it works. It's not really the sort of thing you can just learn in the form of a guide.

Otome often has a slightly quirky or whimsical look about it, if your outfit doesn't have a slight hint of quirky storybook character about it, there is a chance you may have missed the mark slightly. Plainer combos exist but even then, you'll often see a cute hairstyle used or slightly unusual (ie not 'normalfag') jewellery and shoes.

[Anonymous No.8556931]

>>8556666
Will post for you so other people can see it more easily.

[Anonymous No.8557088]

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[Anonymous No.8557090]

>>8556470
I know it might be a long shot, but sauce on these dresses?

[Anonymous No.8557095]

>>8557089


>>8557090
Pretty sure they are both Jane Marple.

[Anonymous No.8557097]

>>8556923
Not the anon you were replying to, but very much in the same boat, and this was really helpful, thank you!

[Anonymous No.8557099]

>>8557095
Ahh, I thought that but I wasn't sure. Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.8557103]

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[Anonymous No.8557133]

I was going to post this in the stupid question thread, but I feel like there's a better chance of getting an answer here. What does it mean when Emily Temple Cute pieces are listed at 160cm? I sort of assumed their pieces are all designed with a 5' - 5'4 person in mind, so I'm a little confused.

[Anonymous No.8557137]

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>>8557133
160 is just like the largest kid's size. I have a Shirley Temple piece that is size 160 and I think it's the same size as standard adult ETC.. But this is coming from someone with no boobs.

[Anonymous No.8557140]

Anyone have examples of coords made with a solid dress (no print/pattern)?

[Anonymous No.8557143]

>>8557140
I hope it's OK for socks to have patterns...
There's not a whole lot of coords like that out there since a lot of otome is to play with patterns.

[Anonymous No.8557148]

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[Anonymous No.8557154]

>>8556465
>Wonder Rocket
their stock lately just seems really normie and not otome (or anything specific) at all. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.8557155]

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[Anonymous No.8557159]

>>8557143
>>8557148
Patterns coming from anywhere else in the coord is perfectly fine. I was actually trying to form a coord based around a pair of tights, but the perfect dress I found for it was solid so I didn't know if it could really have the otome feel.

[Anonymous No.8557168]

>>8557154
Agree completely.. It makes me sad. They used to be a bit more mori like too. I hope they'll switch back eventually.

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[Anonymous No.8557174]

>>8557159

Anddd it's time to say good night now.

[Anonymous No.8557178]

>>8557174
One more! Almost everything in it is it lolita, but I think it can count as otome too with a small petti.

[Anonymous No.8557181]

>>8557178
Thank you for all the inspo, anon!

[Anonymous No.8557213]

>>8557178
Sauce on that cardi oh my god
It looks like it should be Baby but I can't find anything about it

[Anonymous No.8557331]

>>8557089
Thanks for all of those pictures anon!
Does anyone know where this dress is from?

[Anonymous No.8557356]

>>8557106
This dress is gorgeous! What brand is it?

[Anonymous No.8557417]

>>8556931
Jesus, who made this? Most of this is really hideous normalfag shit. It looks like what noobs try to use as "loliable".

[Anonymous No.8557692]

>>8557213
Metamorphose Teddy Cardigan.
That coord inspired me to get that cardigan too. It pops up every now and then (but I've only seen it in black). Good luck!

[Anonymous No.8557696]

>>8557331
Sorry anon, I couldn't confirm 100%, it's probably JM though.

>>8557356
Jane Marple. It's a skirt and bustier. It comes when you search Jane Marple エンブロレースタータン.

[Anonymous No.8557871]

>>8557692
Ahh I recognise it now, I believe a girl in my comm has the same one. Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.8557884]

>>8556842
>>8556923
I think of it as a modern take on mid-century girls clothes - checking out vintage kids' book covers and girls' manga from the 60s and 70s is a good start for getting the aesthetic in your head. Also, take a look at some of Junichi Nakahara's art as another touchstone. Studying vintage color palettes is key to combining colors in a way that makes sense in otome.

Making a mood board or two is always good too - no images of clothes, just photoshoots, movie screenshots, etc. I make a new one every time I change theme and it's really helpful in keeping my purchases on target.

And as always, Sharon Kinsella's Cuties in Japan is helpful for an English-language cultural framework on how Japanese-style cute works. It's nice to have a bit of the cultural background and history to understand the overall aesthetic goal of an otome outfit. It also helps in figuring out what works from non-otome brands (although I like to think otome isn't entirely childish in the way the paper talks about cute. In some ways, it reminds me of Prada's "intellectual dressing" when at its most creative)
https://webspace.yale.edu/anth254/restricted/Kinsella_1995_in-Moeran.pdf

[Anonymous No.8557967]

>>8557884
That article makes me nostalgic, I was reading quite a few of her articles when I was researching for my papers in University.
Back to the topic, I seem to be seeing more JM in these threads recently. Could we have some cute ETC coords in here as well?

[Anonymous No.8557972]

>>8557884 #
That article makes me nostalgic, I was reading quite a few of her articles when I was researching for my papers in University.
Back to the topic, I seem to be seeing more JM in these threads recently. Could we have some cute ETC coords in here as well?

[Anonymous No.8557985]

>>8557972
I struggle to find more fall/winter looks from ETC.

Also wish ETC didn't suck so much now. Pretty much all they do is re-releases now. The original releases are really not that great. Obviously Leur Getter is much better, but I kinda feel like something is lacking a lot of the time still?

[Anonymous No.8557987]

>>8557985
Japanese mama livin' the life.
I hope I can maintain this lifestyle after having kids too.

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[Anonymous No.8558037]

I know this isn't really the place to ask as much as the help thread would be, but I've been trying to get into otome and I find a lot of my co-ords end up looking more casual sweet lolita or too matchy-matchy in general. I was wondering if anyone wouldn't mind giving me a bit of advice please? Somehow I always end up asking other lolitas rather than other otomes for advice on this and I don't know if it's not helping or I just really suck or some combination of both. I've been lurking for a good while, and I thought I had the hang of it as some of my more recent purchases have been less sweet, but I clearly still don't fully grasp it just looking at my wardrobe. Does anyone have any co-ording advice or future purchases advice for me? I don't want to be a notome forever. Will dump random otome images below as thanks

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>>8558037
Do you have any examples of your coords? Maybe if you show us, we can give you some advice on how you can improve. Thanks for the image dump, anon.

[Anonymous No.8558198]

>>8558037
A lot of the dresses have prints that lean sugary-cute rather than vintage-cute. Taking off bows and large embellishments where you can and not using the neck ties would tone them down, as well as investing in a few more solid color cardigans. Though the v-neck sweaters might also not be the best shape- round neck works better, as well as going for stronger colors.

Also, the shoes look extremely Lolita. You could invest in a pair of t-straps, brogues or boots. The little details really make the difference.

[Anonymous No.8558263]

>>8557143
i love otome in greyscale. i've only seen max five coords done like this. it makes me so happy.

[Anonymous No.8558321]

>>8558100
Forgive the incoming fatty-chan so (large boobs + bad angle + weighty). Here is yesterday's and today's outfit. Yesterday I was at a lolita BBQ. I wanted to try and wear the love nadia dress as otome but after failing to match a single brown with any other brown in my wardrobe, I gave up and threw pink over it as the girl on the print is holding pink flowers and there was pink on the bag. It ended up casual sweet and somewhat ita. Today is a super lazy daily wear thing with the meta pop swinger dress.

>>8558198
I actually have a rainbow lot of solid colour cardigans, but I didn't include them as they're just normal high street ones. But valid point that I do need otome-specific cardigans, I've just been hesitant as high collars tend to add on quite a bit of weight. Also thank you on the shoes, I hadn't really noticed but they are quite lolita. I'll definitely look into some more toned down ones in future

[Anonymous No.8558372]

>>8558321
For the first outfit, definitely change the shoes. That's what screams lolita to me the most out of this. Other than that I think you're not too far off. I'd change the pink cardigan for some shade of teal but that's a personal preference, though it would help with the matchy-matchy-ness.

[Anonymous No.8558444]

>>8558372
Teal is a great idea! To original anon, a lot of lolita works in analogous colors when it's complementary colors that make otome really pop.

[Anonymous No.8558939]

>>8556468
fucking hell

[Anonymous No.8559147]

>>8556468
It's a pretty series but the wine color looks muddy. The green and the blue seem to pop a lot more.

>>8558037
I'll give it a shot. I can be a bit blunt, so sorry if I sound like a dick.

>Bodyline main pieces miss the mark
I feel like you're trying to shoehorn these into otome. I'm sure someone can make them work, but to me they seem too lolita.Maybe you should hold off using them until you've fleshed out the rest of your wardrobe and got a bit more experience?

>Cardigans are alright, but need some work
There's nothing wrong with the current ones you have. I think simple, loose cardigans, can work well in the fashion, but buttoning them up like you did over here >>8558321 isn't flattering and makes the cardigan look cheap.
Do you own any cropped cardigans? I think they work well in the fashion and they'd be far more flattering when butoned.

If you want to make your coords more interesting you should think about adding some details to the top half of your outfit. At the current stage the cardigan is a visual block that dominates your coord. Adding some details to your cardigans like new buttons, a removable collar, brooches, etc, will help solve this problem.

>Shoes are alright, but can be improved
I don't mind the shoes you have (save for the Bodyline wedges) but I think adding some more adventurous colors or styles into the mix will give your coords the pop they need.
I'm a big fan of brogues and Melissa shoes. I know the latter can be expensive, but the quality is quite nice and they frequently go on sale. Keep in mind that a small heel is more flattering than a 100% flat shoe. The slight lift they provide helps make a coord look more mature.

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[Anonymous No.8559159]

>>8559147
2/2
>Legwear collection needs expanding
You've made a good start with leg wear but getting some more pop pieces will improve your coords. I struggle with legwear to, so I know how hard it can be!
Have you considered something with either horizontal or candy cane-like stripes? I think they'd work with your non-Bodyline main pieces.

>Bags are little too cutesy
The Rilakkuma and Arpakasso bags could be fun in lolita, but they're a little childish to fit the maiden vide of otome. The other plain bags you have are fine.

>Accessories are important
I'm sure you've got a heap you haven't pictured, but I can't see many in the coords you posted. Remember that it's quality over quantity, and less is more.
If I'm wearing shortsleeves I like to focus my accessories on my hands and arms, and if the top half of my coord is simple, I like to go for a statement brooch or necklace.
I generally avoid plastic jewelry but that's up to you.

And some general rules:
>Quality over quantity
Try to invest in a few nice peieces you really want, rather than lots of cheap ones you're just 'meh' about. It makes a big difference to the quality of your wardrobe, and truly loving a piece can show through in a coord.
>Think kitsch rather than straight out cutesy
Otome fashion is cute, but the designs and cuts lean towards kitsch (that's the vintage-cute vibe that people sometimes talk about.)
>Not all lolita pieces will work
Sure, some pieces can be versatile across the two fashions, but trying to shoehorn something in looks naff.
>Be careful with offbrand
Some pieces can work in the fashion, but if you're consistently making bad purchases then you're wasting your money.
>Use a color chart
It sounds stupid but try using a color chart to help you pick interesting color combos for your coords.
>Surround yourself with inspo
Get on tumblr, insta, the Japanese coord apps, and follow people that inspire you. It'll really help you improve.

I hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.8560051]

>>8558321
I think the way you button your cardigans is really unflattering. Either button the first button at the top, or leave it open, it does nothing for your chest, either.

>>8558037
I think your wardrobe is very "lolita" right now. The bodyline dresses seem too busy for otome, the balloon bear and bunny skirt might be alright. I'd also invest in more interesting-looking cardigans, pic related is just a random one I grabbed from Leur Getter, ETC makes them too, and you might have some luck with offbrand. I'm mainly talking about neutral prints, ribbon details and stuff like that. Go for round-collar rather than V-neck.

[Anonymous No.8560082]

>>8558063
Sauce on dress? I am absolutely in love with it!

[Anonymous No.8560085]

>>8558037
Hey Wardrobe anon! Sauce on that light yellow dress you have with the little bunnies in teacup print? That shits precious as fuck!

[Anonymous No.8560175]

>>8560085
Not that anon, but it's from the Chinese Indie rand Honey Honey.

[Anonymous No.8560198]

>>8560082
it's Innocent World

[Anonymous No.8560234]

>>8560082
Innocent World

[Anonymous No.8560281]

A huge pet peeve of mine is when people call sloppy or lazy lolita "otome". Sure otome is closer to normal clothes in silhouette, but JM, ETC and LG are more expensive than lolita and it's the tiny details that matter. Offbrand, foreign made cardigans usually don't look good because the material is very stretchy over the boobs, the length is too long, the buttons are made of crap, and pilling starts to happen very soon in the armpit areas. Try to look for cardigans in working womens (aka more expensive stores). The details will still be shit but the cuts may be better. Think boxy and 60s, not tight and gaping at the buttons.

[Anonymous No.8560314]

>>8557133
160 means it's designed for someone who's 160cm tall. Japanese kidswear sizing usually corresponds to height in cm.

[Anonymous No.8560455]

>>8560281
Same. I compare some of my old lolita pieces with otome and there's no comparison.

And you can sometimes get sweaters monogrammed in the more upmarket shops, which at least gets you a little bit of detailing. Printed knitwear is so cheap looking, people need to stick to intarsia designs, embroidery, or plain. I'd go further and say synthetic fibers in knitwear don't have the right look at all.

[Anonymous No.8560522]

I feel like sometimes otome and lolita overlap so much. I'm not sure when I'm wearing lolita and when I'm wearing otome. Is otome typically mlre toned down colors?

[Anonymous No.8560602]

>>8560522
They look really distinct to me. Think a lot of the problem is people repurposing lolita dresses as otome. Compare someone wearing a typical JM summer dress with someone wearing a comparable Baby or IW dress and the cut/styling/fabric stand out. A lot of images in these threads tend to be wearing lolita in an otome way.

[Anonymous No.8560631]

>>8557178
>dat cardi
>need more of this
Why no one replicate a similar cardi *coughtaobaocough*? I saw this on auction only one time, sigh.

[Anonymous No.8560640]

>>8560602
I love JM, ETC,etc but I cant justify spending more on those than on lolita. Maybe I'll get on the auction sites or closet child or something. Any tips on where to find otome brands for less than retail?

[Anonymous No.8560695]

>>8560640
I've seen stuff pop up on lacemarket, closet child, and grand bazaar (rakuten)

[Anonymous No.8560743]

>>8560640
Auction sites are probably your best bet, yeah. Especially if you start with basics or the less iconic prints.

Cath Kidston's sleeveless dresses hit closer to the mark and are a lot more affordable, though you take a hit on quality in comparison to JM (and they have lining and pockets, which is nice)

[Anonymous No.8560757]

>>8560640
y!A and mbok are the obvious choice.

[Anonymous No.8560800]

Wardrobe-anon here. Thank you so much to everyone who responded. Especially the double post anon, that was really helpful! I really appreciate it. I've been lurking long enough that I've been noticing my own co-ords aren't otome which is definite progress as it means I'm getting a better feel for it, but I still have a long way to go and I'm having trouble identifying exactly what I need to do next to get better. I was about to start investing in more accessories like shoes and cardigans which is why I decided to do the wardrobe post, so it's great that I got that feedback on what types I should be focusing on. And to the anon who posted about the bags, don't worry. They are basically con bags as they both hold a surprising amount. They don't see much use outside of conventions. I'll definitely work on more tights, but does anyone know where you get those candy stripe tights? I've only seen one pair of red/white ones from mufish.

>>8560085
It's Bunnies Tea Party by Honey Honey. They ended the pre-order on June 2nd, and what they have now is a sale of their leftovers so if you like it I'd suggest going for it now before they're sold out again. I had quite a bit of trouble trying to get my hands on it.

[Anonymous No.8560827]

>>8560800
You take concrit really well anon, I hope you luck in your future endeavors for otome.

[Anonymous No.8560848]

Anyone have any brands to add to the list up top?

I would like to submit Orla Kiely for consideration for their full skirts, coats and accessories, especially if you go for a subtle early '60s vibe.

[Anonymous No.8560888]

>>8560848
I'd say no. The overall aesthetic is too normalfag for otome, imo, although they have some suitable pieces.

[Anonymous No.8560897]

>>8560888
That's what I was thinking, mainly the coats. Some of the prints remind me of Mina Perhonen with a stronger colour palette.

[Anonymous No.8560910]

>>8560897
Yeah, I can see the coats and cardigans mostly.

What do you guys think of bonne chance collections? I think their sleeveless dresses could work pretty well. The stock photos are ugly, but I like the ones I've seen on people.

[Anonymous No.8560959]

>>8560910
I've bought dresses from them before. IMO the quality isn't great and they have a weird fit almost like it's girl's clothing vs women's clothing.

[Anonymous No.8560982]

>>8560910
I feel like a few of them can work. I know I've seen people talk about using the dresses with that one cat print for otome.
I have one dress from them (that I want to try to use for otome but I think it's too sweet) and didn't experience fit issues aside from the armholes being a little too small.

[Anonymous No.8561008]

>>8560959
You mean like junior sizing in terms of how it's cut for a straighter figure? And what do you think of the length on the dresses? They look a bit above the knee, but that might be image compression.

[Anonymous No.8561026]

>>8561008
I'm pretty small and short (5' and 32a-24-32) and the dress I bought had a very awkward fitting bodice, it was tight but still loose if that makes sense, and the bodice was a weird length. The waist of the dress was huge and very unflattering. As for the length of the dress it was a little bit above my knee.

[Anonymous No.8561106]

I love Fanny Rosie's style, is she considered otome? If it is, are there any other bloggers who wear that kind of toned down, mature style?

[Anonymous No.8561123]

>>8561106
No she's definitely a classic lolita.

[Anonymous No.8561762]

>>8560800
You're back! I'm double post anon and I was worried we'd scared you off.
Candy tights and socks are hard to find but ETC ones come up on auction.

>>8561106
I like her outfits as well but I wouldn't call them otome. She's in the grey area between lolita and otome with a vintage twist thrown in.

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[Anonymous No.8561911]

>>8559147
>>8559159
Different anon, but as far as normalfag cardigans go, altering them is definitely the way to go. I know there's a tutorial for cropping cardigans that's rather simple floating around somewhere, and adding your own embroidery or other small details can really make the cardigan pop. Detachable collars are also nice.

[Anonymous No.8562600]

Could I have some advice on how to coord this skirt from JM?
I've been doing really simple coords with it-cream blouse, green tights, brown Oxfords. But I'll really want to try something more creative!
Would appreciate some coord advice, kind anons.

[Anonymous No.8562698]

>>8562600
Have you thought of adding mustard, wine, or navy? Although wine might be a little Christmasy

[Anonymous No.8562844]

>>8562600
That's a beautiful skirt, anon. Such a great collection.

If this was IRL, I'd probably style it, whole outfit, as:
>Rose pink cardigan or sweater. Needs to be the exact shade of rose pink, though.
>White/cream blouse with peter pan or scalloped collar.
>Pin worn at top button. I'd probably go for something floral to go coordinate with the feel of the stain glass.
>Horn rim glasses, roundish. Pearl glasses chain, I'm thinking similar to the chains JM has released.
>Mid-brown brogue boots.
>Satchel-style bag to match, must have a vintage professor-ish look. Or a bag that looks like a book in that similar color palette.
>Bonne Maison printed socks, either one of the French floral designs or Dark Spire. Something with an Old World feel.
>Hair in braided updo with dark blue velvet ribbon where needed to accent.

[Anonymous No.8564223]

The 30th ribbon dress looks fun to coord with the amount of patterns on it.

[Anonymous No.8564673]

>>8562600

Wow anon - I've never actually seen my dream skirt in real life! If you don't mind my asking, would it be possible for you to let me know how you managed to get it (retail/auctions/private sale etc.)? I've been searching for it since release and I've never seen it anywhere beyond JM promotional material.

For coord advice, it depends on what colours suit you. It sounds like you already lean towards warm tones, so I agree with the anon above who suggested bringing in some rose pink. You could also introduce some gold accents with the pink while keeping the browns and creams.

You could also go the other way and take it darker; when I had the green OP I liked coordinating it with Bordeaux. You could keep the cream blouse, try a Bordeaux jacket or blazer, and add a structured hat like the ones VM release each A/W. I also like ankle boots and granny style/Victorian style boots with JMs medium length skirts, but I know that's very much a YMMV thing. This pair by JM are actually Bordeaux (excuse the bad photo) and I find that they work really well with this skirt length.

[Anonymous No.8565743]

>>8562844
Woah, not that person but that sounds on point.

[Anonymous No.8565855]

/r/ing the sweetest otome coords you have! More like >>8557972

[Anonymous No.8566095]

>>8565743
Thank you! The stained glass made me think of my alma mater's theology library, so I used that as a reference. Might also be cool to include a stronger rose/vine motif (maybe vine print blouse?) to evoke cathedral ruins or blue accent color and more prominent JM logos for an angel theme (ymmv depending on where anon lives).

[Anonymous No.8566119]

>>8564673
Not OP but I got very lucky and found mine through a 2nd hand site. This series is so hard to find, I'm glad other people love it too!

[Anonymous No.8566325]

>>8566119

Thanks for taking the time to reply; I really appreciate it! I'm really bad at keeping up with second hand sites - I'll have to try to do better on that front.

It's honestly just great to know that the medium skirt actually does exist and isn't just a figment of my imagination! I think that a lot of the reason why it's so hard to find this series is because it was released prior to JM having much of an online presence. I was able to get the OP via retail, but only because I found a picture of it posted on a social media site somewhere. I never found a picture of the short or medium skirt online, so I wasn't able to request it with my shopping service at the time.

[Anonymous No.8566602]

Dropping my pic for concrit. I'm a fatty-chan but on the low-end/borderline of plus-size still I'm quite busty and the bodice of this dress wouldn't really come down all the way... I don't think it looks too noticeable though and at least it wasn't so tight that I was uncomfortable.

Anyways outfit rundown!
--
Dress: ETC Bunny Handkerchief
Bag: Swimmer
Everything else: Offbrand

Btw since I was under the impression that Otome is really quite casual I thought it would be okay not to wear a blouse, so I didn't is that acceptable? Or is a blouse essential to Otome like it is to Lolita?

[Anonymous No.8566612]

>>8566602
Ugly as fuck

[Anonymous No.8566613]

>>8566602
Dropping two more pics so you can see the coord better.

[Anonymous No.8566614]

>>8566613

[Anonymous No.8566616]

>>8566602
>>8566613
At least wear a bolero... that dress does not fit you bro.
Why would you not lift up the straps of your bra/the dress before taking the pic wtf.
Is this a vendetta post?

[Anonymous No.8566618]

>>8566612
K. What about it makes it so ugly anon?

[Anonymous No.8566620]

>>8566612
That's not very nice
>>8566613
No blouse is fine but I'm afraid that cut isn't very flattering on you, it's cutting your bust in half. I suggest looking for the lower waisted cut, I had it and it had back shirring to, but I prefer empire cuts on myself.

[Anonymous No.8566623]

>>8566614
Are you wearing... orthopedic shoes....
I'm not sure what to tel you but everything about this awful except for the dress.
Even then the dress doesn't fit you so you're making it look awful.
Look at more pictures of otome before trying anything again.

[Anonymous No.8566634]

>>8566616
Nah I tried to fix the straps but it wouldn't budge, I've since realized that I definitely will be needing to invest in a strapless bra for this one.

Yeah I image the cut of the bodice wasn't very flattering on me, but other then fit how's my actual cording skills for Otome? The colorway of the dress is the white x blue version so I paired it with a red bow and red heart Swimmer bag along with grey tights and black flats. Since I know Otome is all about trying to use contrasting colors and creating sort of a whimsy and quirky look rather then the matchy-matchyness of Lolita.

How'd I do on that front?

[Anonymous No.8566638]

>>8566634
*imagine not image

[Anonymous No.8566645]

>>8566634
Ah... no, it all seems a little too plain and random. I think you need to learn normal fashion and aesthetics first because you're not getting it. Quirky =/= no fashion sense. Blue stripey socks, bright yellow accents, polka dot patterns, even red or brown shoes.
Also the idea of opaque tights and summery no blouse is no to me.

[Anonymous No.8566659]

>>8566645
So should I just ditch the red bow and swimmer bag then? Or just add in what you listed?

[Anonymous No.8566677]

>>8566614
>>8566613
>>8566602
I wouldn't say its that bad, only borderline Notome not fully crossing into it. You have the right idea, the only thing that really makes this look bad are the tights, shoes and general fit of the dress.

Please consider getting a ETC dress that actually fits you, I find fit might even be more important then coordination in general, cause really no matter how much you try to work an outfit, if that shit don't fit its just gonna look awkward no matter what you do. If you're still hell-bent on wearing this dress no matter what consider binding/sports bra, losing a few pounds or taking the dress to a seamstress and altering the bodice.

Again its really the fit that's the main issue for this coord right now.

[Anonymous No.8566682]

>>8566659
Try getting a dress that actually fits first.
Good lord how did you go out in public like this? What a terrible mess

[Anonymous No.8566702]

>>8566682
How do all the fatty-chans manage to go out in public squeezing their sausage bodies into too small as shit J-fashion? She's definitely not the only one whose done this, I'm starting to think its a fatty-chan staple or something: "Trying to fit things that don't fit" are they really so delusional that they think that if they push and pull enough it'll get on? Why do they do this to themselves, are they such brandwhores that they feel they're too good for custom-made Taobao stuff made to flatter and fit them? Or does it just give them some sort of weird self-esteem boost to try to squeeze into tiny tiny clothes made for "uguu thin and kawaii" Asian girls?

Someone please explain to me this phenomena because I literally cannot with all the fatties being posted here day after day with the same shitty-ass excuse that kills their outfit: "Shit that don't fit!"

[Anonymous No.8566733]

>>8556923
Thanks anon! Sorry it took so long for me to reply to you. Your comment about color popping helped me look more critically at coords I liked on others and coords I've worn and disliked.

I had fallen into the habit of making coords with two colors, which honestly made them look one dimensional and flat. From looking at others' otome coords, I can see that usually the best coords are made with at least three colors or with one main color and small pops of other colors. With the secondary colors complimenting those already present in the main piece, of course.

However most of the coords posted are fall and winter coords, where adding a jacket or cardigan is an option. It is too hot for most of the year to do that where I live. Does anyone have summer coords they'd like to share?

[Anonymous No.8566764]

>>8566602
that poor dress, you're such an ugly fuck please quit j fashion forever and go back to the pleb weeaboo/cosplay cesspool you probably came from.

[Anonymous No.8566782]

>>8566614

Other anons have already covered this, but the JSK doesn't fit you. It's cutting your bust in half, and when you're able to get the straps up on to your shoulders they are cutting into you pretty obviously. If you want to wear ETC pieces make sure to go for their low waist styles, as pictured. In addition, make sure to actually fit the straps of the JSK to your body. You can move the buttons one the straps, and you're going to need to extend the length of the straps significantly. You may end up needing to add extra fabric.

Whether or not you want to wear a blouse is your choice, but if you don't wear a blouse you should wear a cardigan or a bolero. Just a JSK with thin straps alone isn't going to be flattering on you.

Coording the JSK with red is fine, but consider adding a white blouse, a red cardigan, white OTKs or tights, and red shoes to make the outfit more cohesive. Right now everything is very unbalanced: you have a light coloured JSK with nothing up top and very dark accessories on the bottom. I know what I suggested sounds a bit staid, but simple is better when you're finding your feet.

Feel free to ignore me on this one, because it may be my own personal preference bleeding through, but I'd also ditch the headeating bow. You generally need to balance those with voluminous hair, so the one you're wearing looks a bit awkward on you.

Good luck.

[Anonymous No.8566787]

>>8566764
Vendetta? The fit is unfortunate yeah but that's a common problem with a lot of fatty-chans, she's certainly not doing anything super-special awful. She's just your average run-of the mill ill-fitting fatty that tends to get posted here a lot.

I personally find her face cute as fuck! As fat as her body is, she lucked out with her face not being a ham-planet. Thus making her one of the more qt fatty-chans I've seen on her, she definitely fits the whole "Marshmallow girl" motif. I think Otome suits her facial features perfectly, she just needs to look for stuff that actually fits her.

[Anonymous No.8566810]

>>8566782
ETC Handkerchief fatty here! Thanks anon, I shall invest in all things you listed here and ditch the dark colored bottom.

I actually would've tried to go for a low-waist ETC dress the problem is very few low-waist Otome fits me since most of my weight is concentrated in my belly, I generally find empire-waist cuts to be much more comfortable even if they aren't as flattering. Plus I absolutely adore the print on this dress and I saw it on LaceMarket for only $70 bucks so I figured hell why not?

I'd still like to make this dress work despite my weight so I think I'll do as you suggested and take it to a tailor to add in some extra fabric before wearing it again.

Thanks so much for helping this newfag on babby's first Otome coord!

[Anonymous No.8566816]

>>8566764
>That poor dress
>poor dress
>poor dress

Thin poor-chan detected! I know you're jelly that my fat ass can afford burando while yours can't but too bad so sad, that's life! Try getting a job if you really want to outdo us richfag fatties in our brand, would you like some cream to go with that butthurt? ^:)

[Anonymous No.8566836]

>>8566810
Why don't you just lose some weight before butchering the dress

[Anonymous No.8566850]

>>8566733
>Sorry it took so long for me to reply to you

Your politeness levels are unprecedented anon.

I'm glad the advice helped. A bit of extra info using >>8556923 pic again for reference, when 'color popping' I think it works best to use say, two main items (in this case the cardigan and shoes) where the accent color is in the form of a soild block of color. If say the beret was also red, whilst all matching perfectly well, it would start to have a 'red shoehorned in' type appearance and would generally fall a little flatter and be less visually interesting - the eye would be less drawn to the other details in the coord. The tan beret helps break up the colors whilst echoing (although not exactly matching) the gold in the print and buttons of the cardigan.

Summer appropriate coords attached. Think chiffon or light cotton short-sleeved OPs or jsks worn with light chiffon blouses or boleros. Light socks rather than tights, or if high socks are still too hot, cute pattern or frill ankle socks.

It is possible to go blouseless and sockless but make sure the headwear, bag, jewellery etc keep the bold and quirky element of otome. Only do this if it's really damn hot out.

Hair accessories could include summer hats such as straw boaters, bow hairbands, flower corsages and quirky hair clips.

[Anonymous No.8566867]

Please stop saying otome is casual lolita ffs

[Anonymous No.8566911]

>>8566602
>>8566613
>>8566614
That dress does not fit you. Even if you add extra fabric, the cut looks bad on you. Also, that reply >>8566816 is cringy as fuck.
If you really love the print, turn it into a skirt.

[Anonymous No.8566938]

>>8566850
>Summer appropriate coords attached. Think chiffon or light cotton short-sleeved OPs or jsks worn with light chiffon blouses or boleros. Light socks rather than tights, or if high socks are still too hot, cute pattern or frill ankle socks.

I think I can make some summer magic happen if I accessorize a little better. I think I need some more ankle socks in wider colors and some chiffon boleros. I appreciate the suggestions

[Anonymous No.8566946]

>>8566602
Chiming in with everyone, the fit is not flattering. Even if the bodice was bigger, empire waist isn't flattering on a large chest.

Otome is for everyone, but it has to look good. If you look at otome brand dresses, they rely on box pleats and tailored bodices. Since the overall effect is more tailored, fit becomes much more important. You can't just hide bad fit behind massive amounts of fabric and lace like in lolita.

[Anonymous No.8566948]

>>8566836
Because I don't plan on ever selling it? I keep all my Lolita and Otome dresses to myself, they're like collector's items for me and are my prized possessions. I don't plan on ever selling them, even when I get too old to wear them, so sorry no brand for you jelly-chan! Its my money that I bought it with so its all mine to do with what I please forever, not everyone treats their J-fashion as a public closet to be passed on around the community.

And I love sweets too much to lose weight so I doubt that'll ever happen.

[Anonymous No.8566950]

>>8566946
Oh? I was always told empire waist is the most flattering cut for apple shapes such as myself, just so long as they aren't in Lolita where you need a petti for that poof which turns into emphasizing that wideness instead of hiding it.

Would binding or a sports bra get my bust down enough to make it look acceptable?

[Anonymous No.8566973]

>>8566950
I've got big boobs and actually find a pushup bra works to strap me down a bit (counterintuitive I know, but pushup bras work by pushing the boobs in and up) - I can usually lose about an inch and the extra lift helps with maintaining an elegant line (especially since Japanese dresses are usually made for a shorter frame and thus shorter torso, so the bust darts will be higher). Definitely a case of needing a blouse to cover any resulting cleavage though. The Freya plunge bras are nice for a model that's not padded.

Since sports bras just push the boobs in by whatever means necessary, you tend to just get an unfeminine monoboob effect from them. As a last resort though, they could be worn under something non-tailored.

As for cut, maybe something A-line? I tend to find empire waist adds a lot of volume. Could see a longer empire bodice working, but it needs to be defined under the bust first before extending out into the skirt part.

[Anonymous No.8567007]

>>8566950
Who told you that? I'm an apple too, empire waists make you look pregnant, especially if you have a gut. A-line just-waist cuts are more flattering, high waisted is also passable. You won't be able to achieve that with JP brand high waisted cuts, because they will not cover your chest.
Honestly, just give up on the dress or turn it into a skirt.

[Anonymous No.8567013]

>>8566911
This. Also speaking as a seamstress it's not possible to add fabric to that dress to get it to fit right. The only way to make it fit would be to turn it into a skirt.

[Anonymous No.8567020]

>>8566950

The thing is, since your bust measurement is larger, the empire waist cuts on ETC JSKs are cut too short to accommodate you. ETC bodices are cut short to begin with, and the bodices on their empire waist dresses are extremely short. When you wear it, the whole dress gets pulled up because the bodice is accomodating more volume than it is designed to. However, because of this, an ETC low waist JSK will fit you as if it was an empire waist JSK. So, if you prefer the way an empire cut looks on you then the low waist version is the way to go when shirring is involved.

Since you want to keep your dress you should definitely see what moving the buttons on the straps will do for you, but you will probably need to add more fabric to get that bodice to sit better. You might then run into the problem of the neckline of the JSK sitting too low on you, and need to cover that with a cardigan or a bolero. If you have an alterations place near you, take the dress in and see if you can have a chat to someone to get a feel for whether they'll be able to help you out.

[Anonymous No.8567026]

>>8567020

I mean adding more fabric to the straps to lengthen them, not adding more fabric to the bodice. Sorry if that wasn't clear above.

[Anonymous No.8567028]

Does anyone know the maximum for half-shirred ETC skirts? And axes femme too, while we're at it.

[Anonymous No.8567047]

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k189025710
>現在の価格 : 131,000円

well I guess I don't really want this dress anymore.

what other otome pieces go for this much?

[Anonymous No.8567050]

>>8567047
None AFAIK though some JM pieces go for a little less than half that.

[Anonymous No.8567052]

>>8566613
>>8566612
>>8566602
Jesus Christ I have no words how bad this is. You don't think it looks noticeable how small that dress is on your body? I can't believe there are people this delusional about how they look. Can you really not see how awful you look when you look in the mirror?

The dress not fitting is one thing, but that messy hair, the lack of cardigan to hide those straps, those ugly as fuck shoes. You are actually calling others jelly of you?

The fact that you actually posted this on /cgl/ yourself just blows my mind.

[Anonymous No.8567056]

>>8556470
>>8557133
>>8557137
I've been hunting for one of JM's tartan OPs for ages with no luck. My kingdom for this shit.

[Anonymous No.8567060]

>>8567020
>Bust measurement is larger then the waist

Really it is? That's... actually extremely reassuring to find out, I always thought I was the biggest right in my belly/waist but now I find that my bust is actually the biggest? Does that still make me an apple then or an inverted triangle/rectangle? (Whatever that shape is called for when you're heaviest in the bust.)

[Anonymous No.8567063]

>>8567047
Red jsk just went for half the cost of that. Look into the other colorways anon, don't give up. Blue is most popular followed by red then yellow

[Anonymous No.8567066]

>>8567052
>Messy hair

It wasn't like that when I first went out, I just picked the wrong time to take the pics. Those pics were taken when I was already starting to sweat from running around the mall all-day and my being extremely kinky/curly due to me being Jewish tends to get messed up like that from even just a drop of exposure to sweat.

[Anonymous No.8567067]

>>8566948
>My dresses are not for sale ever and I'll always be into this and keep it forever and ever and selling is gross

I talked to a newbie Lolita about just selling dresses that don't work out and she gave me that long childish speech. The dumb bitch sold her entire wardrobe on Lacemarket and Buy/Sell threads here two years later.

[Anonymous No.8567069]

>>8567050
40-50k yen is still pretty steep for me. guess I'll never really own JM pieces.

>>8567063
still too much... but I can dream

[Anonymous No.8567074]

>>8567063
That's a goddamned steal.

[Anonymous No.8567081]

>>8567074
I know right?? girl in my comm won it so I'm pretty happy for her.

[Anonymous No.8567101]

>>8567060
You really misunderstood that anon's comment, they only said your bust is larger than what's supposed to fit ETC's dresses.

>>8567069
There's quite a few that for for about the retail price of lolita brands. Considering new JM costs 35k-45k, that's not bad, they are pretty pricey.

[Anonymous No.8567123]

>>8567060

Sorry, I might have communicated my point badly back there. I don't know your body shape - it's not really possible to tell for sure from the photos you posted. If you feel that your stomach is larger than your bust then I'm sure that you're correct - you know your own body. What I meant is that your bust is too large to fit into ETC empire waist cuts, and that that is causing the dress to ride up and sit too high on you: because the bodice is accomodating more than it is designed to it is stretching out horizontally and pulling everything up too high. The same thing is going to happen to ETC low waist JSKs, but instead of cutting you across the bust they should instead sit like an empire cut on you. This may still not be wholly flattering, because the bodice will still be accomodating more than it was designed to and may look a bit over stuffed, but it will look a lot better than a JSK in an actual empire cut.

I'd also suggest taking your measutements sometime so that you have a really solid idea of what your proportions are. If you have some waist definition then skirts or dresses that sit at or cinch in at your natural waist can be very flattering.

[Anonymous No.8567138]

>>8567069
Very few JM prints command higher than retail on the secondary market, and the solids are often downright cheap. I'm growing a collection of JM I've picked up for under $200, including a cute print JSK for 6000Y and a print skirt for 4000Y.

[Anonymous No.8567148]

>>8567138
oh wow!! this makes me pretty happy. I usually spend around $200 for lolita pieces second hand too. thank you!

[Anonymous No.8567245]

>>8567138
It's only the really popular pieces that go for so much. Still as the dresses are commonly over 40,000 yen retail, the prices can be quite high. However I also enjoy looking on Y!J for lower priced JM items. You can always find a steal at auction if you're not looking for something in particular.

[Anonymous No.8567281]

>>8566948
>jelly-chan
Let's not bring lolita style immaturity into the otome thread, please.

[Anonymous No.8567312]

>>8566816
So much cringe....

[Anonymous No.8567336]

>>8567148
It helps that right now the exchange rate is good if you're buying in dollars. Off the top of my head, Library, Royal Stamp, Puss in Boots, Royal Order, Anniversary Ribbon, Lang du Chat, and a couple others JSKs routinely sell for 30000Y or more. A few that used to sell around that price have dropped recently to ~220-25000Y. Most other prints are inexpensive and the solids can be had for a song. I picked up one of my favorite prints (Scotland Scarf) nwt for 16000Y and I almost certainly 'overpaid' in the sense that no one else was interested and I probably could have got it cheaper if I'd cared less about getting it. (The skirt version has been constantly relisted on YJ; I'd buy it if the seller lowered it from 10000Y)

[Anonymous No.8567353]

Does anyone have access to better photos from the Minton release? I never saw the items go up on their site and never saw a consistent breakdown of the items available. There was a cardigan, a long skirt, a JSK, an OP, and a border miniskirt for sure though... I think the colors were ivory, navy, and green but I'm not positive.

[Anonymous No.8567370]

>>8567138
I found a JM print skirt for 14000Y on auction recently. Thank the secondhand market because otome prices are steep for what I make.

[Anonymous No.8567455]

>>8567353
all I have is this

[Anonymous No.8567458]

>>8567455
>granny onepiece

[Anonymous No.8567576]

>>8567458
stay classy JM

[Anonymous No.8567635]

>>8566816
Why don't you use that 'richfag' money to get cosmetic surgery, you're hideous and look about 35, I will see that Aphex Twin grimace in my nightmares. While you're at it, hire a personal trainer and lose some weight you are pig disgusting. Then buy a style coach because you can't dress for shit.

[Anonymous No.8567645]

>>8567635
Sandy vag detected

[Anonymous No.8567649]

>>8567635
>Being this mad

Kek, looks like she got you right where it hurts!

[Anonymous No.8567677]

>>8567052
I put forth this poster possible new queen(though also possible summerfag)? This is classic, I didn't know people were still this oblivious.

[Anonymous No.8567859]

>>8566614
>>8566613
>>8566602
This is one of my favorite dresses by ETC. I really hope you stole someone else's photos and are trolling.

[Anonymous No.8567887]

[Anonymous No.8568170]

>>8567887
This is probably my favorite coord in anything ever.

[Anonymous No.8568550]

A lot of the time, it seems that coords could be considered either classic lolita or otome kei depending on perception. What is the difference between the two in your opinion? In the photos pictured here, the answer seems to be no petticoat in otome.

[Anonymous No.8568555]

Anyone have worn pics of ETC's Donuts and Cutlery JSK?
I own it, but the bust has a pretty weird fit yet and I'm trying to figure out how to coord it best.

[Anonymous No.8568567]

>>8567635
hi isaki!

[Anonymous No.8568638]

>>8566810
i'm sorry but this dress is just not going to work - the empire cut isn't right for your shape, adding extra fabric won't change that. i'd suggest trying a dress that sits on your actual waist, i'm a chubby bunny as well but is absolutely possible to make otome work for your size, but you need to know what cuts work for you in regular fashion first.

[Anonymous No.8568640]

>>8566948
god your attitude is horrific.

[Anonymous No.8568642]

>>8568640
it's ok, she has horrific looks to go with it

[Anonymous No.8568689]

>>8568555
I wish taobao did replicas of ETC's donut stuff.

[Anonymous No.8568696]

>>8568642
Isaki pls go.

[Anonymous No.8568716]

>>8568642
>Horrific looks
>Doesn't have a manface
>One of the most average looking fatties posted on /cgl/

She dresses horrifically yes but the fact that you commented on her actual LOOKS and not just specifically on the fact that she can't dress herself makes your vendetta obvious from a mile away!

[Anonymous No.8568786]

>>8568689
no

[Anonymous No.8568973]

>>8568689
Honestly otome shit is the only brand I would probably buy replicas of. Instead I'll just wait until I'm mid twenties with a decent enough job to be able to actually buy JM. I can't believe that the 4 strap boots haven't been replicated, though, considering that wouldn't even be illegal.

[Anonymous No.8568991]

>>8568973
I own 3 pairs of 4-strap shoes and I rather pay more on real leather shoes instead of some chinese made smelling plastic shit. JM is fucking expensive yes, but you will cherish it when you own the real deal, trust me. Also, you can get them second hand for almost half retail, considering the quality of the shoes that's a steal.

I'm also more than happy that replicas of Otome are basically non existent. There are very few fattys and itas into it and I'd like to keep it that way.

[Anonymous No.8568999]

>>8568991
I bought last years 4 straps and was really disappointed with them, honestly. Luckily my friend wears the same size and bought them from me, but it really put me off buying them, even though the ruffled pair is probably my holy grail of shoes.

[Anonymous No.8569033]

>>8567056
They usually release a tartan line every year so I'm waiting for winter to hopefully get one. It is my dream JM item, especially the one with the eyelet lace collar.

[Anonymous No.8569073]

>>8568999
I've heard that the quality of JM's shoes have gone downhill in the recent years. I think everything JM is still made in Japan though so it's not like they're outsourcing production to China or anything.

[Anonymous No.8569194]

>>8569033
I'm hopeful for this years print too anon! Last years wasn't my style. I really want one of the OPs with white collar and cuffs.

[Anonymous No.8569200]

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f151667336

Anyone else watching this shit to see how crazy high it goes?

[Anonymous No.8570339]

Otome is just classic lolita without a petticoat.

Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.8570345]

>>8570339
Come on, that's tired baiting.

Classic lolita does not use the whimsical prints, color popping and silhouettes of otome (cut of the dress is more than if you using a petticoat or not; quite few otome dresses look better with a petticoat anyway).

[Anonymous No.8570349]

>>8570339
Er... you are very wrong.

[Anonymous No.8570425]

>>8570339
Things like this make me wish we had a checklist like the mori girls

[Anonymous No.8570442]

Any good otome blogs out there? Either individuals or just aggregates of photos/posts.

[Anonymous No.8570461]

>>8569200
The bags don't go for much over 6000

[Anonymous No.8570637]

>>8570425
JFC we need one

[Anonymous No.8570761]

>>8570637
I feel like the first one would have to be "Has high standards down to the smallest detail."

[Anonymous No.8570817]

>>8566634
You need to work on your buying clothes that actually fit skills, then you can move onto coording skills. If you don't understand when clothes don't fit you, you are always going to look like a mess, regardless of your ability to style an outfit.

Your hair is a hot mess as well, ponytails are notome.

[Anonymous No.8570834]

>>8570817
I disagree on the last part. High ponytail with fringe worn with gingham or one of the ETC doughnut prints for a summery retro picnic coordinate. You'd just have to give it a bit of bounce with a curling iron and also have the right hair accessory.

Putting the awful hair aside, the gigantic headbow is the worse offender here.

[Anonymous No.8570851]

Does anyone have pictures of otome coords without cardigans and preferably with skirts? I know this is hard mode but I'm always looking for more inspiration on those.

[Anonymous No.8570862]

>>8570851

[Anonymous No.8570865]

>>8570862

[Anonymous No.8570870]

>>8570865

[Anonymous No.8570873]

>>8570870

[Anonymous No.8570892]

>>8570873

[Anonymous No.8570893]

>>8570892
Sorry anon, couldn't find a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.8570896]

>>8570893

[Anonymous No.8570898]

>>8570896

[Anonymous No.8570916]

>>8570834
Sorry, you're right. I should have said unstyled, all hair slicked ponytails.

[Anonymous No.8571300]

I've never ordered directly from JM, though I do have a lot of their items. How does it work? Is it basically like the Japanese AP site where you use your credit card and Tenso?

[Anonymous No.8572460]

>>8571300
Never ordered myself personally. But that's how it looks since they don't ship internationally.

Looks like they take credit cards - http://janemarple.shop-pro.jp/?mode=sk#payment

[Anonymous No.8572573]

I recently got the new bodyline sailor dress, and I'd like to make an otome outfit with it, but I'm not sure about having a solid-colored main piece. anyone have any ideas or inspiration?

[Anonymous No.8572575]

>>8572573
Some examples were posted earlier in the thread. Basically, just wear patterns everywhere else.

[Anonymous No.8572576]

>>8572573
You can definitely pull of largely solid dresses, but I don't know how well that particular piece would work.

[Anonymous No.8572603]

I like how this girl incorporates darker colors.

[Anonymous No.8572604]

>>8572603
Creepy purikura!

[Anonymous No.8572608]

>>8572604
I probably shouldn't like this..
The McDonald's french fries is a nice touch.

[Anonymous No.8572611]

>>8572603
Dream dress.

[Anonymous No.8572625]

>>8572611
Hope you get it soon!
There's an expensive mint one on mbok currently.
http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_472911002.html?_SRC=li_i0

[Anonymous No.8572628]

>>8572611
I hope you're able to get it soon!
There's some similar cat dresses on mbok now if you're willing to settle..
http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_472115164.html?_SRC=li_i0
http://www.mbok.jp/item/item_472911002.html?_SRC=li_i0

[Anonymous No.8572641]

>>8572628
Maybe it's time to start a collection of cat prints.

[Anonymous No.8572690]

Do you think a dress like this could be styled in a more otome way? I usually wear it normalfag style or in a slightly more mori way.

[Anonymous No.8572701]

>>8572460
her nails are so cute!

>>8572603
>>8572604
>>8572608
is this all the same girl? definitely needing more

[Anonymous No.8572720]

>>8572690
I think it could. For something simple, play off the pale blue detail with a yellow or powder blue cropped cardigan/jacket with lace collar detail and add stripe tights/socks in coordinating colors, patent t-strap shoes, a brimmed hat with big corsage and bag with an unusual but on-theme shape, like one of those teapot bags.

Or if you can find it, try with a powder blue short sleeved peter pan collar shirt to layer underneath.

[Anonymous No.8572869]

>>8572608
>tartan, polka dots and leopard print
I want to hate it, but I can't, it really works.

[Anonymous No.8572877]

>>8572611
White one is on y!A for 28k yen.

[Anonymous No.8572953]

>>8572720
Thanks, anon!
I was thinking of pairing it with a cardigan in a shade similar to the one in pic related, but I've been having such a hard time finding one.

[Anonymous No.8573187]

>>8572869
It's the magic of otome striking again.

[Anonymous No.8573260]

>>8572701
Her wear account here! http://wear.jp/nannan105/
She doesn't just wear otome, but she wears a lot of other clothes in an otome like way with a lot of clashing patterns.

[Anonymous No.8573282]

I kinda regret not getting the pasta dress. The otome possibilities are endless.

[Anonymous No.8574421]

[Anonymous No.8574425]

>>8574421

[Anonymous No.8574435]

>>8574425

[Anonymous No.8574436]

>>8570896
this is amazing

[Anonymous No.8574439]

>>8574435

[Anonymous No.8574443]

>>8574439

[Anonymous No.8574444]

>>8574443

[Anonymous No.8574595]

>>8574444

[Anonymous No.8574806]

>>8574595
>>8574444
>>8574443
>>8574439
>>8574435
i need all her legwear and all her hats, especially the berets

[Anonymous No.8574887]

>>8574439
I need the socks on the right, they would go perfectly with my wardrobe. Does anyone know the brand or where to get similar ones?

[Anonymous No.8575400]

>>8556468
I just received my OP from this series and the dress doesn't have the Jane Marple tag sewn into it. Is this normal for JM pieces? Can someone who bought items from this series or who owns a lot of JM confirm this? I only own a handful of JM pieces and all other pieces have tags sewn into then so the missing tag is kinda suspicious to me.

Also, I'm slighly disappointed in the OP. I thought the fabric would be thick and textured, but the texture effect is only printed on on a very thin summer-like fabric. The dress is also unlined which honestly suprised me, since the only unlined JM pieces I came across were their cutsew OP's in the 30.000 yen range. For almost 50.000 yen I excepted something else tbh.

[Anonymous No.8575409]

>>8575400
I got the JSK and it has the label sewn on as per the picture. My piece is also lined with a built in petti. I don't own a lot of JM pieces so can't help much more, sorry.

[Anonymous No.8575411]

>>8575400
There's a tag in the photo of that dress and I've never seen a JM piece without a tag. The lack of lining is weird, too, but it couldn't be a knockoff because it's a brand new release. Sounds like poor quality control and possibly slipping quality and corner cutting overall, which would be a little surprising.

[Anonymous No.8575416]

>>8575400
Did you get this OP? Looks like there is no tag sewn on there.

[Anonymous No.8575417]

>>8575400
sorry--I misread that and thought you bought the JSK rather than OP. I only have one JM OP with sleeves, but the bodice is unlined. It does have a tag sewn into the neck binding, though.

[Anonymous No.8575444]

>>8575416
yeah I got that dress

I thought the tag would be placed elsewhere, it's really weird for a JM piece not having a tag at all.

The only plusside is, that I can use it as a summer piece. I'd definitely be freezing my ass off, if I wore that in late autumn or winter. Still a nice print though, I was just expecting something else.

[Anonymous No.8575717]

>>8575444
Check to see if the tag is located on the side of the dress.

And there is no way the dress could have been made with a textured/thicker material with the way it's gathered into a smock dress. Plus it clearly states 100% polyester. Doesn't the skirt portion have lining?

You can easily sell the dress if you're disappointed anon, but I've always been happy with all of my JM pieces that were paid at retail cost. Try waiting further into their autumn/winter line if you want more textured fabrics.

[Anonymous No.8575731]

>>8567148
I just bought this JSK set for $175 USD today. There's always hope anon!

[Anonymous No.8575787]

>>8572690
I actually have this dress and wear it in an otomesque way pretty often! No pics because my cameras broken, but I usually wear a pink chiffon blouse, printed tights, and tan oxfords with it.

[Anonymous No.8575822]

>>8575731
This is gorgeous. Congrats, anon!

[Anonymous No.8576634]

>>8575787
I like it because honestly it could be coorded with so many colors. Plus I have an addiction to crown so win-win really.

>>8575822
Thanks anon! I was trying to buy the socks and then in my searching on Y!J found that the dress was for sale in a different listing. It was good luck all around.

[Anonymous No.8576640]

I saw this auction for a Regimental Stripe OP recently. It's going for like 18500 which isn't bad at all.

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f157533621

[Anonymous No.8576743]

>>8575717
I checked the sides and there is nothing.

The skirt part doesn't have lining. The petticoat layer is actually a separate tulle underskirt. It's just one layer and it doesn't give any poof though.

I might be selling the dress if I find the JSK version, otherwise I'll keep it.

I'm anticipating the upcoming book print, hopefully that turns out better!

[Anonymous No.8576892]

>>8576743
Where do you find out about upcoming JM releases?

[Anonymous No.8577485]

>>8576892
Just check their website/blog everyday.

[Anonymous No.8578192]

>>8575400
>>8575400
I have a similar OP from Jane Marple. The tag should be next to the care tag along one of the side seams. Mine came with a cotton half slip/skirt to wear under it. Bonus: the OP also has side pockets.

[Anonymous No.8578195]

>>8575400
I have a similar OP from Jane Marple. The tag should be next to the care tag along one of the side seams. Mine came with a cotton half slip/skirt to wear under it. Bonus: the OP also has side pockets.

[Anonymous No.8579072]

Kekking hard at the people in the "vintage lolita" thread. All that shit just otome, ain't nobody got to invent a new name for it.

[Anonymous No.8579100]

>>8579072
I don't know, I feel like the aesthetic is pretty different. It's not as quirky and youthful as otome.

[Anonymous No.8579117]

>>8579100
I feel like otome can still look mature though, look at Fanny Rosie. I'll give you the quirky though.

[Anonymous No.8579218]

Noob question that's probably been asked before, sorry. Does otome look bad on taller girls like it tends to with lolita? Im around 5'8" (~173cm) and really want to get in to the fashion, but am worried as my old lolita wardrobe definitely showed a bit more thigh than preferred.

[Anonymous No.8579228]

>>8579218
Shorter skirt and dress lengths are acceptable in otome just use common sense and stick to the otome aesthetic; if you feel a shirt or dress is a little too short you could use a petticoat (doesn't necessarily have to be poofy) or an underskirt (keep it to one tier though if you know what I mean).

[Anonymous No.8579229]

>>8579218
Don't stress about it. Dresses are usually longer than lolita length anyway (I'm 5'2 and JM skirts are past knee length vs AP being above knee), but I've seen girls wear shorts with legwear.

Otome doesn't stress about modesty as much as lolita does, but you should have the appearance of a young maiden.

[Anonymous No.8579301]

>>8579218
I think Otome is very tall-friendly, the skirt length is a lot more flexible. Just make sure you wear tights instead of OTKs if the skirt is shorter, I think that makes it more modest.

[Anonymous No.8579930]

has anybody seen this aussie brand?
http://chiffonrose.com/collections/mulberry-chronicles?page=2

the stuff is cute, but even for an indie they're charging a whole lot.

195.00?? you're high.

[Anonymous No.8579934]

>>8579930
There's a bit of drama about them and peppermint fox apparently? It's not between companies, but basically a lot of people are saying that they're copying pep fox's designs.

Also, apparently their construction in the bodice is wonky. Someone posted a close up photo before and the stitching was off.

[Anonymous No.8579999]

>>8579934
It's just one salty anon who keeps saying they're copying and spamming it. They're friends with pepfox and the designs are clearly different. Also I haven't heard anything negative from somebody who actually owns the dress but idk

[Anonymous No.8580002]

>>8579930
I've recently become obsessed with mushroom printed stuff and I honestly really want that dress but not enough to pay 195 for it. I could buy a dress from an established brand for that much. Hopefully it pops up cheaper secondhand.

[Anonymous No.8580016]

>>8575400
Wow, just printed texture and not real heavy fabric? That's bizarre as I always thought this was a jacquard from pics...

[Anonymous No.8580264]

>>8579228
I love this ETC biscuit print.. I really don't see it enough

[Anonymous No.8580265]

>>8574443
Sauce on this dress?

[Anonymous No.8580274]

Hey gulls, I'm putting together my first otome coord. Am I on the right track or am I completely missing the mark? Suggestions?

[Anonymous No.8580278]

>>8580274
Cute as, are those shoes brown?

[Anonymous No.8580280]

>>8579228
Is anyone else bothered by how she wears blouses under OPs? It just looks like it'd be uncomfortable. If you want to have a cute collar they make detachable collars for that.

[Anonymous No.8580281]

>>8579934
I noticed that in the official close up/detail shot - The stitching between the princess seams and waist were really visible while it was laid flat.
It usually happens when a dress has been stretched out, but they probably used a stitch that was just too wide for a 'structural' stitch.

>That could change on the commercial product, though.

[Anonymous No.8580292]

>>8580278
Thank you! And yes, they're brown. This is a phone camera picture that I snagged off an older shoe thread because they were front-facing in it.

[Anonymous No.8580348]

>>8580280
I think it's cute and if you're layering right it shouldn't be too uncomfortable.
I do love removable collars but if you can't make your own they can be hard to find. The only ones I see use crappy lace and have stupid studs or beading on them.

[Anonymous No.8580369]

>>8573260
Holy shit where can I get something similar to this sheer op?

[Anonymous No.8580389]

>>8567047
Just.. why? I do not understand the high price for this, it makes no goddamn sense, what makes it so enviable?

[Anonymous No.8580407]

>>8580389
Lots of reasons:

>iconic JM print
>the print theme has wide appeal
>color in the print give lots of coording potential
>older women wear JM and tend to have more money to spend
>the competitive nature of auctions puts people into a frenzy
>JM is gaining popularity which is driving up prices for their iconic pieces
>that piece is the most popular cut and I think it's also the top colorway

[Anonymous No.8580504]

>>8567047
The Royal Library OP (in both wine/navy iirc) also went for 100k+ yen on Ya!J few months ago. Bitches be crazy for book prints.

[Anonymous No.8580702]

>>8580280
I think she wears quite light blouses (like Amavel blouses) - cause you can't see alot of bulk around the arms.

In the end it's like the same concept with wigs - We have hair but we put more 'hair' on top. Doesn't it get hot? Not really.

[Anonymous No.8580965]

>>8580280
No, why would it be uncomfortable?

[Anonymous No.8580997]

Anyone have any examples of otome with shorts (or even trousers)? Pic related was posted in an otome thread a year or so ago and I'd be interested in seeing if there are any other examples or are shorts/pants highly irregular?

[Anonymous No.8581058]

Any good coords of this JSK? I just bought it and would love inspiration. I have the pink colorway but anything from this series would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.8581062]

Thoughts on this cardigan romper combo? I know shorter cardigans are usually used in otome, but does it work? Also, sorry for the bathroom shot.

[Anonymous No.8581063]

>>8581058
Dropped my pic. Just found it on google, I know it's not a good coord.

[Anonymous No.8581093]

>>8581062
Sorry anon but I think you'd be better off with a shorter cardigan. That one's making you look frumpy.

[Anonymous No.8581143]

>>8581063
I love this JSK. Clothes or accessories with jars of jam on them... That's my jam.

[Anonymous No.8581163]

>>8581063
The bag on the right would be perfect

[Anonymous No.8581200]

>>8581062
...it might actually look cuter with a striped shirt underneath, like soft color stripes. Drop waists can sometimes be a bit difficult to get the proportions right when you add cardigan..

[Anonymous No.8584066]

I'm starting out in otome and I was wondering where to find vertical striped stockings/socks or "candy cane" style ones that are suitable, the only offbrand kind I know of are those short transparent ones and the candy cane ones pictured from Eine Lilie

Any suggestions at all are incredibly appreciated!