German Thread

[Anonymous No.8695206]

let's try this again.
Austrians and Swiss are welcome as well!

Con season is mostly over, how has it been? What cons are you already looking foward to?

Try keep the shit stirring to a minimum.

[Anonymous No.8695210]

For the Lolitas:

Court of Fables has been founded. A assosiaction trying to help organisating meet ups and maybe more?
What do you think about it?

I have to admit I think it's great to have a site that lists all meetups for everyone to see, hopefully they'll get a link to each comms site, it would make it easier to join a comm.
Also they seem to make a local indie brand list. My hopes are high for this.

[Anonymous No.8695251]

>>8695210
I just really dislike the name. What is it supposed to mean? And why is it in English?

[Anonymous No.8695255]

>>8695251
Looks like the aim is to make it a global thing? With Germany written on it like that.

>>8695210
Logo design is not on point. Close but not quite there. "Germany" is bend too much and the CoF is ugly. And why make it CoF? You gotta think about your abbreviations and making them unique.

[EarthApple !!jykiooct5LD No.8695259]

>>8695206
>What cons are you already looking foward to?

Tbh I was only once on a con, Dokomi 2011. Didn't go to any con after that, because I felt I was too much of a normie watching Anime (no interest in collecting/buying any merch nor doing cosplay/fashion stuff etc). The cringe that can be seen there and on Japantag every year are did their rest.

I miiight consider going there next year though since it is only ~30min away from where I live now and if I can manage to finish a proper cosplay until then. Not for any particiular reason, just for the lulz.

On the other hand I don't want to pay too much for entrance like AniMagic for said reason (normie in disguise). Was living for more than 18 yrs in Bonn, never been to AniMagic.

[EarthApple !!jykiooct5LD No.8695261]

>>8695206 (OP)
>What cons are you already looking foward to?

Tbh I was only once on a con, Dokomi 2011. Didn't go to any con after that, because I felt I was too much of a normie watching Anime (no interest in collecting/buying any merch nor doing cosplay/fashion stuff etc). The cringe that can be seen there and on Japantag every year are doing all the rest.

I miiight consider going there next year though since it is only ~30min away from where I live now and if I can manage to finish a proper cosplay until then. Not for any particiular reason, just for the lulz.

On the other hand I don't want to pay too much for entrance like AniMagic for said reason (normie in disguise). Was living for more than 18 yrs in Bonn, never been to AniMagic.

[Anonymous No.8695273]

>>8695255
>Looks like the aim is to make it a global thing? With Germany written on it like that.

I thought of it as the opposite. It seems to cater especially to german or german speaking lolitas, despite the english name. I feel you on the name choice though, it is a bit odd.

[Anonymous No.8695285]

>>8695273
You wouldn't really have to specify "Germany" if you really only meant it for Germans though, right? I think the English name and specifically saying it's German opens it up to become global.

[Anonymous No.8695302]

>>8695285
I asked one of the founders they said it is for Germany only like French Cafe for France

[Anonymous No.8695308]

I kinda like the name but I really don't give a shit what they call their club as long as they bring lolita events to Germany that don't suck like Hamburg or the Asia Day disaster

[Anonymous No.8695319]

Meine letzte Con für dieses Jahr war die MMC letzte Woche (wo ich mir natürlich nochmal ne ordentliche Erkältung eingefangen hab). Jetzt heißt's erst mal 3,5 Monate Con-Pause, worauf ich mich eigentlich sehr freue. Stoffe für die nächsten Cosplays sind schon da, daher wird in den nächsten Monaten chillig genäht und gebastelt, damit die nächste Con-Season nich so stressig wird. Ma gucken wie gut der Plan klappt, nachdem Fallout 4 raus is....
(Und sorry, aber heut is Sonntag und ich bin grad echt zu faul für Englisch...)

[Anonymous No.8695329]

I hope that this years ChisaiiCon will finally be a little better than the previous ones. I still have hope guys. I mean it'd be so much better if they had less expenisve sellers, not so much fake stuff and yeah, it's Sunday what is English? Want to go to more cons, but they're expensive and far away and I don't really get something for attending far away expensive cons except for massive cringe complexes and an empty bank account, cause of all the travelling fees

[Anonymous No.8695707]

>>8695329
I know your suffering.
Nothern germany sucks con wise and I don't get why. It's not like there is no demand for it, we do have enough cosplayers here.
Same with Lolita comms, they are not very active either and I don't think nothern germany has any less lolitas than other areas.

[Anonymous No.8695727]

>>8695707
There are actually a lot of fashion and cosplay people up here even in Schleswig Holstein there are so many of them, and the only con we have is this gammel ding von chisaii con

[Anonymous No.8695735]

>>8695210
As someone who visits twice or more a year and have been having a hard time finding events im really excited if this takes off. Im having a hard time joining dunkelsuess and the other website for lolitas and everything seems really out dated.

[EarthApple !!jykiooct5LD No.8695807]

>>8695735
>dunkelsuess

When I started reading here in /cgl/ a few weeks ago, I was quite curious how many comms are active in the German speaking area. Aren't there really any other active comms besides dunkelsuess?

Besides that, their online presence seems somewhat "very serious". Aren't coms more open and chill about the whole thing? Or just the typical "Vereinsmeierei" here?

[Anonymous No.8695810]

>>8695807
dunkelsuess is a site, not a comm

[Anonymous No.8695860]

>>8695807

Anon you quoted here.
There are the handfuls of facebook comms but a lot of them are itas asking questions such as is taobao safe, where to buy wigs and i see very few meet ups being posted. I assume that its mostly private events or that possibly there arent really meet ups.
I want something where i can see comm/event photos. I only found things like that on dunkelsuess and something like animexx or something but the photos were from 3-5 years ago.
Hopefully this can be a part of the court of fables?
I mostly just want to see what the Koln comm is like since ill likely be spending much of my time there.

[Anonymous No.8695904]

>>8695319
Ah, Fallout 4. Darauf freu ich mich auch schon sehr.

War dieses Jahr auf gar keiner Con (Studium etc.), dafür bin ich nächstes Jahr wieder am Start. Stoffe wurden auch gestern auf dem Stoffmarkt gekauft.
Also ja, ich freu mich!

[Anonymous No.8696944]

>>8695727
And this is the point I don't get, if we are that many why isn't there a decent convention?
And why don't we have an active Lolita communtiy? The FB group isn't that small yet there were only about 3 meets this year and most have been attend by the same 3 to 5 people. It so sad.

[Anonymous No.8697059]

>>8695251
I think its to prevent from creeps... they got a lot of requests from old men and stuff due to "lolita"

[Anonymous No.8697112]

>>8695308
just out of curiosity what happened in Hamburg?

[Anonymous No.8697150]

>>8696944
I guess because there's so many beef, especially in the fashion/vk comm here. It's full of blatant assholes and egoists

[Anonymous No.8697153]

>>8697112
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.8697214]

>>8697112
I guess this about the Hamburg Teaparty which was a collaboration eith anime matsuri. Long story short organisation was a disaster, not only before even while the event was held. If you want the full story search the archives, we had very detailed threads about it.

[Anonymous No.8698019]

>>8697150
Is it still that bad? I thought they had beef years ago.

[Anonymous No.8698637]

>>8698019
Still bad. Ok, some of them went off to glorious nippon and the ones who are left are shattered into small evil groups, fighting/avoiding each other out of known or unknown reasons. I'm all for a huge and nice j fashion com, since there are still many people around, but you can't do anything if they don't want to because of their antisocial roots or whatever

[Anonymous No.8698940]

>>8698637
>the ones who are left are shattered into small evil groups, fighting/avoiding each other out of known or unknown reasons.

This is why I won't even concider joining a com here. So much drama potential.

[Anonymous No.8698977]

>>8698940
I always here that the Hamburg Lolita com is the worst of them all (in Germany) can someone here tell me more? Since I hear the same thing, that it's worse, since around 4?6?years.

[Anonymous No.8699793]

>>8695904
>gestern auf dem Stoffmarkt
>d.h. Samstag
>mfw ich da ebenfalls war
jetzt erzähl mir noch du bist auch aus DD und ich flippe meinen shit

[Anonymous No.8701236]

>>8699793
Kleine Welt, hm Anon?
Aber ja, fast. Bin fürs Studium in die Nähe von DD gezogen und deshalb hin und wieder dort.

[Anonymous No.8701260]

>>8698977
>Hamburg Lolita com is the worst of them all
I used to be friends with a Hamburg lolita, she'd tell me plenty of stories about the meetups, the drama, the "muh burando", how them and the Berlin lolitas hate each other, etc.
Best part was when she said that she hates people who talk shit, but then talk shit about her close friends for the next half hour.

[Anonymous No.8701352]

>>8698977
>>8701260

Hamburger here. We may come across as elitist or secluded but it's just that the interest in putting effort into creating (and attending) meets is low when you already have your small circle of lolita friends you rather meet up in private with. Generally, everyone is nice to each other (or silently polite) at meets but it's clear that everyone has their small group of people they prefer to hang out in the end.
Though many girls stick to each other, others try to interact with newbies, so nobody ends up alone (but it doesn't always work out). I'm personally not close with many girls from that comm and if there is any drama or shit talking, it takes place behind the curtains.

Also the vendetta between Hamburg and Berlin was long ago and it were mostly rumours anyway started by insecure newbies and jealousy of some girls who owned more brand at a time when owning more than a handful of brand items was rare. But that's literally ages ago, we have nothing against girls who wear offbrand or indie brands, as long as the outfit is good.

[Anonymous No.8702213]

>>8695210
I've heard so much negative things about one of the organizers, so I'm quite unsure what to think of it.

But I guess time will tell.

[Anonymous No.8702220]

I was at 2 austrian cons this year. I went both days of Nippon Nation in Vienna and i was really a nice small con. The organisation, the program and a lot of the cosplays were good, will mostly go there again next year.
The second con was Akicon in Graz, and it was a shit fest. The location was nice, there were "a lot" of people but the organisation sucked balls and the cosplay were fucking shit. Most of the attendees were young weebs and the cosplay contest was the cringiest thing i ever witnessed.

[Anonymous No.8702436]

Any interesting cosplay drama recently?

[Anonymous No.8702518]

Omg Found some Hetaliweebs and.. I feel so ucomfortable as a german person when I see stuff like this.

Another User Commented: I love it! I'm getting the eagle on my left shoulder. I have the iron cross on the other with the date 1701 so I know the feel of wanting to show it off but fearful of showing it too

[Anonymous No.8702540]

>>8702518
WHY THE ACTUAL FUCK?? ppl don't have history lessons at school?

[Anonymous No.8702619]

>>8702540

More like they learned to cope with their own stupidity. There are lots of people, in and outside of Germany, not giving a fuck or not even knowing what this is supposed to be.

I'm too dumb to read, what is standing there in the bottom?

[Anonymous No.8702625]

>>8702619
"Königreich"

[Anonymous No.8702631]

>>8702619
Nothing stands there, as tattoos don't have legs. But it says "Königreich [something]", I'm guessing Prussia.

I honestly don't care if someone who is in no danger of being mistaken for a nazi (someone who might be female and middle class and American for example) gets a Prussian eagle tattoo. You guys need to chill.

[Anonymous No.8702639]

>>8698940
Same here. Even though I'd love to meet up sometimes but the drama really scares me off. Being a lone Lolita is the better choice in this case but I do envy my friend who has a really great comm with meets nearly every month.

[Anonymous No.8703163]

>>8702631
First time I hear that those factors prevent that one is seen as a nazi.

[Anonymous No.8703185]

>>8703163
Yeah, the stereotype does seem to be working/middle class caucasian male... An ethiopian neo-nazi sounds like an interesting chracter.

[Anonymous No.8703190]

>>8703163
If a black hipster in Berlin wears a Boy London tshirt it's apolitical fashion, if some white trash in an American prison gets a tat of the same eagle on his back he's showing off his association with white supremacy gangs. Context matters.

>>8703185
Black skinheads look pretty swell. Obviously not the same as neo nazis, just talking about visuals here.

[Anonymous No.8703221]

>>8703185
>>8703190
There was never a mention of skin color in the original post. Would be kinda weird seeing nazi insignia on anyone other than whites, well, at least weirder.

[Anonymous No.8704367]

>>8702518
This is so fucking weird. If a german does it it's really inappropiate and wromg and if a non-german does it it seems stupid; like does the person even know the implications? Like when Bleach or Kuroshitsuji uses german/nazi references it seems so wrongly laid-back.
Just.. don't do it.

[Anonymous No.8704370]

>>8704367
I personally wouldn't wear any nation's symbol on my body, dead or alive. But it's just Prussia, not a Swastika. It's not worse than wearing British, Russian or Japanese coat of arms.

[Anonymous No.8704390]

>>8695210
This sounds cool and all but holy shit the logo is bothering me so much. Mainly because of choice of Typography and how squished it looks.

[Anonymous No.8704419]

>>8695319
Oh Anon, ich fühle mit dir! Hab mir auf der MMC wohl auch etwas eingefangen, jedenfalls bin ich seit Mittwoch nach der Con krank. Die Con selber fand ich auch recht enttäuschend, die Orga in Sachen Workshops war echt besch...eiden.

>>8695206
I'm mainly looking forward to Animaco, in hopes that it won't be so boring like MMC. All I did was go from workshop to workshop only to wait at least 15 minutes, because too many people showed up/lists got mixed up/equipment wasn't ready. In my free time I was wandering around and mainly helping out at a booth.

[Anonymous No.8705706]

>>8704419
Hah, bei mir gings am Mittwoch nach der Con auch los. Bin immernoch krank, aber es ist schon fast vorbei. Gute Besserung dir!

Also ich fand die Workshop-Orga jetzt nicht so schlimm. Hab die 2 Workshops der Partyvengers besucht und den Japanisch-Workshop (letzterer hat mich so unglaublich an die Schulzeit erinnert...) Hat alles relativ pünktlich angefangen und aufgehört. Nur zwischen einigen WS hat die Orga vergessen Pausen zum Abbau/Aufbau einzubauen... das natürlich blöd.

[Anonymous No.8705732]

>>8705706
Oh wow, wir sind wohl verlinkt. Ich bin eigentlich auch schon fast gesund, hab in meinem Attest noch den nächsten Montag entschuldigt (für alle Fälle).
Vielen Dank und gleichfalls~!

Hmm also am schlimmsten war die Orga beim Chameleon Pen WS am Samstag. Der WS davor hat überzogen, zu viele Leute sind aufgetaucht, es gab zwei Listen (und eine davon war eigentlich für den nächsten Tag gedacht) und das beste: Der Workshop selber musste pünktlich Schluss machen. Es war einfach nur unverschämt. (Ich hoffe sehr, dass die Orga mal nen 15 Minuten Puffer zwischen den WS einplant).
Der Synchro WS hat auch sehr verspätet angefangen, weil das Equipment erstmal aufgebaut werden musste lmao (hat trotzdem echt viel Spaß gemacht)

Aber hey, wenigstens hat mich die BILD nicht gefunden.

[Anonymous No.8706495]

Was für ein Würstchen...

[Anonymous No.8706567]

>>8706495
Hey Anon, ich glaube er spricht indirekt von dir..

[Anonymous No.8706604]

I just found out there will be a tea party at Dokomi this year. Is it true that they are featuring Putumayo as their main guest? Where can I get more information?

[Anonymous No.8706753]

>>8706604
https://www.dokomi.de/de/angebot/tea-party/

google is a great tool you know?

[Anonymous No.8706802]

>>8706495
>Disco
Oh my, people having some fun, that's completely the same as shitposting!

Reminds me of those plain Janes that are proud they aren't spending time on shopping, drinking and clubbing like their peers but instead are reading or whatever. Sure, no wonder they have no friends or SO.

[Anonymous No.8707286]

>>8706495
literally never heard of him... but now I looked at his stuff and it's actually decent. Also recognized some friends. He's not very well known, isn't he...

[Anonymous No.8707289]

Seagulls, should we discuss German photographers? Who do you prefer to work with?

[Anonymous No.8707294]

>>8706802
>Oh hey, look at me, I am a special snowflake and I am willing to learn new things and I am so much better than the scum trying to socialize and having fun in places I don't like. Eventhough there are many ways to have fun, this can't be one, because I don't like it at all, so it must be bad.


I hate these kind of ppl.

[Anonymous No.8707333]

>>8707289
I only worked with one of those "photographers" and he was so full of himself for whatever reason. I honestly don't know any other ones, not even by name, but I sure hope they aren't a special snowflake like >>8706495 sort of seems to be.

[Anonymous No.8707346]

>>8707333
what was his name? Were the results worth it in the end?

[Anonymous No.8707387]

>>8707346
Not giving out his name but no, not really. They were mediocre at its best. Props to him he shot our entire group one by one (we were about fifteen people) on one convention day. Which was incredibly exhausting, since some members just needed more than an entire hour for 5 different pictures they liked at the end.

[Anonymous No.8708927]

>>8706495
Is this complete tool really bragging about taking an online course designed to tell you how to make people love you more? That shit is completely embarrassing but even more so if you announce it to your fans instead of, you know, anything that has to do with your actual artistic work.

[Anonymous No.8710446]

Best conventions in Germany due to messehunter.de:

http://www.messehunter.de/2015/10/eure-top10-cons-in-deutschland/

Discuss, do you agree with it?

[Anonymous No.8710477]

>>8710446
>wie.mai kai instead of mmc/animaco

really

[Anonymous No.8711760]

Anyone coming to German Comic Con in Dortmund at the beginning of December?

[Anonymous No.8711795]

>>8711760
No, still thinking this is all one big scam. Ticket prices are too low for that sort of event and who the hell organizes a convention that big in just half a year?

[Anonymous No.8711901]

>>8711760
I don't like how agressive the two comic cons advertise, how they deal with their rivalry openly and how they declare themselves as something made by the SDCC. None of them have anything to do with the american original, they are buth just a cheap and overly commercial ripoff.

It's all very unpleasant to watch.

[Anonymous No.8713370]

>>8710446
Wtf is this shit, where are MMC/Animaco at??

[Anonymous No.8713410]

>>8711760
Auch wenn ich kein allzu gutes Gefühl bei der ganzen Sache habe würde ich's mir gerne mal ansehen. Wie schon einer gesagt hat, dieser öffentliche Bitchfight zwischen den beiden Cons war einfach total bescheuert und irgendwie fühlt sich das ganze Konzept seltsam an. Für das was sie da bieten, sind die Preise wirklich zu schön um wahr zu sein (und das ist meist kein gutes Zeichen).

Entweder sind die Veranstalter selber wohlhabend (was nach einer kurzen Suche nach "Cool Conventions GmbH" nicht so aussieht) oder sie haben halt echt richtig viele, dicke Sponsoren an Land gezogen. Oder vertrauen darauf dass die Leute für $$$ die Photoshootings und Autogramme in Anspruch nehmen. Oder nehmen unverschämt hohe Standpreise (ich denke mal die üblichen Händler werden dort einen Stand haben). Oder...

Was mich aber am meisten nervt: 22 Tage noch und das Show- und Panelprogramm ist beschissen (weil nicht existent).

>Sorry, grad mal kein Englisch. Nächstes Mal wieder.

[Anonymous No.8713621]

>>8713410
Ich find die Preise ehrlich gesagt ziemlich hoch für das, was die da bieten wollen:

2 Hallen mit den üblichen Ständen. Ein Haufen Stände wo man teure Autogrammkarten von C-Promis kaufen kann. Und dafür bitte 40€. Why even bother?

[Anonymous No.8714137]

Zumindest sind laut deren Website die Tageskarten für Samstag ausverkauft. Mit Comics kann man anscheinend in Moment Geld verdienen, auch wenn man sonst nichts an Informationen rausrückt.
Hatte sehr kurz überlegt hinzugehen, ist mir aber ehrlich gesagt auf für einen Tag zu teuer wenn ich nichts andres weiß als ein paar C-Promis aus Dingen die ich nicht gucke. Comics und Merchandising kann ich mir den Rest des Jahres auch kaufen.

[Anonymous No.8714199]

fucking customs hit me hard.
they got my haenuli dress plus headdress und I need to make postverzollung because the opening hours of my local custom office sucks balls.
Shit is adding roughly another 150€ on the dress. Please tell me I'm not the only one who needs to suffer.

[Anonymous No.8714887]

>>8714199
All my stuff goes straight to custom. I always have to pay, but I buy only stuff under 150€. Otherwise I use a shopping service...

[Anonymous No.8719360]

stoß

[Anonymous No.8719380]

>>8714199
How fucking expensive is shit fuck Haenuli for 30% plus the postverzollgungs fee to be 150€?

[Anonymous No.8720421]

>>8719380
It adds up fast, the dress is 258$ and the Headdress is 65$, shipping is 24$....

[Anonymous No.8720744]

What's your favorite German con guys?

[Anonymous No.8720767]

>>8720421
So postverzollung is about ~50€?

I've been very lucky with things send in envelopes rather than boxes. I've often had that stuff go through unchecked if declared as gift or low value, compared to just about never if it's in a box. Just today I received something that was correctly declared as ~100€ merchandise without paying for it. They even opened the envelope but I guess decided they didn't care enough.

[Anonymous No.8720809]

>>8720767
nvm, it's about 100€ customs, I didn't convert to € in my first calculation. Postverzollung is 28€ (which is ridicoulus, as it was free before)

[Anonymous No.8720813]

>>8720767
yeah, you are just lucky

For me, the last time a parcel that wasn't marked as a gift went through and I didn't have to pay customs for it was like in 2010.

And about 80% of gift declared sendings also end up in customs nowadays. The gift option is not really worth it anymore.

[Anonymous No.8720880]

>>8720813
The gift option works for me as long it's sent from a private adress, which is why I rely on shopping services. Only shoes get stuck every freaking time.
Weird enough taobao packages are hit or miss. I heard taking yanwen for shipping was still a reliable method for not to get hit with taobao orders, but I have no clue about that one.

[Anonymous No.8721275]

>>8720880
Im ordering from taobao for the first time via SS, what sort of marking would you recommend? Under 45€ and marked as a gift or just under 150€?

[Anonymous No.8722335]

>>8721275
German customs are going to open it up regardless of value. Especially parcels from China marked as gift.

-Logistics Anon

[Anonymous No.8722348]

Vienna Comic Con this weekend.

Whos going? Cosplaying?
Cosplays or guests you are excited for?

[Anonymous No.8722562]

Does anybody here have experience at working with Eva Foam? Any tips?

[Anonymous No.8722852]

>>8722335
Thanks anon! Guess I'll just go for the regular under 150€ marking then, should be less suspicious
>tfw my order is actually worth less than 140€ including SS fees and domestic shipping in China

[Anonymous No.8723191]

>>8722562
Get a xactoknife for cutting.
Dremel for smoth edges etc. Pva glue for sealing

[Anonymous No.8723196]

Wo bestellt oder kauft immer eure Stoffe?
Ich bräuchte irgendwas Nähe München.

[Anonymous No.8723396]

>>8723196
Komm nicht aus München, deswegen kann ich nur Stoffmarkt Holland empfehlen. Man sollte bei dem aber schon aufpassen, dass du manche Stoffe nicht total überteuert kaufst... deswegen ist es ratsam, die Preise von den Basic Sachen wie Baumwolle in unicolor zu kennen. Wenn man aber den ganzen Tag auf dem Markt schlendert und die Angebote vergleicht, kann man schon das ein oder andere Schnäppchen ergattern.
Leider taucht der Stoffmarkt nur zweimal im Jahr pro Stadt auf

[Anonymous No.8724277]

>>8723196
In München Mitte gibts den Karstadt, der ist eher teurer und die Stoffbezeichnungen stimmen nicht immer, und Tawakl (beim idee am Stachus), der hatte immer relativ günstige Unistoffe, ist aber sehr klein
Sonst kann ich dir noch das Stofflager in Haar empfehlen, das hat recht viel Auswahl und ist nicht ganz so überteuert wie der Karstadt.
Danke, dass es Internet gibt.