Finland thread

[Anonymous No.8768421]

I don't know, Frostbite in a month or so.

Drama and shit

[Anonymous No.8769798]

There's the ECG thing in the Frostbite. Who are going to participate and who will win?

[Anonymous No.8770136]

Damnit Finland, we can't lose to the Sweden thread. Keep posting.

And why do Finthread OPs always pick the most irrelevant OP images? No wonder Finns won't notice these threads.

[Anonymous No.8770151]

>>8770136
By all means, post something related to subject matter.

How's your cosplays for Frostbite doing? Ready, almost ready, nowhere near ready?

And I'd say that character that's supposedly Finnish is at least somewhat related

[Anonymous No.8770584]

>>8768421
Just post the Finnish flag or something, I almost flew right past this post.

Sooo, who's even participating in ECG? Rimppu and Majo at least, as a group. I don't really know any singles.

[Anonymous No.8771276]

The twins, Rullarinkeli & Sonoko and Elzy & Aselea are participating in the group competition.

[Anonymous No.8771402]

Besides all the drama, Hellocon will be held again. What do you guys think about rose theme?

[Anonymous No.8771674]

https://desucon.fi/blogi/2015/12/lauantain-loppuillan-teehetki-iltabileet/

[Anonymous No.8771682]

>>8770151
>related

finnish character?

[Anonymous No.8771711]

It's sad how there's really nothing to talk about, except maybe for that one sad looking Saber Bride cosplayer.

[Anonymous No.8771713]

>>8771711

Dropped pic.

>mfw even the photo is equally bad

[Anonymous No.8771730]

ITT: Finnish cosplayers who don't watch anime

Aila ;__;

[Anonymous No.8771786]

>>8771713

I don't see anything wrong with that. Stop with the unnecessary Ilona hate already, her costumes are decent and she knows how to pose.

[Anonymous No.8771793]

>>8771786

Moo

[Anonymous No.8771818]

>>8771786

Hi Ilona

[Anonymous No.8771839]

>>8771818

Now that's very mature, claiming that anyone who disagrees with you must be the target herself. As shocking as it is, people can have different opinions and the fact that you think Ilona's costumes are bad doesn't, surprise surprise, mean that it's a fact.

[Anonymous No.8771868]

>>8771713
She really doesn't have the body nor the skills for cosplays like these.

>>8771786
>>8771839
Get out Rimppu.

[Anonymous No.8771884]

What the fuck. Can't you get a discussion going without calling who the poster is? Get your heads out of your asses. Or dunno, go out and get drunk

In before I get called out for being someone who I'm not

[Anonymous No.8771891]

>>8771884
By all means, do start a discussion. Just stop whiteknighting and samefagging already.

[Anonymous No.8771897]

>>8771891
Nah, I'm busy getting drunk instead

[Anonymous No.8771906]

>>8771891

Sayin one's opinion = whiteknighting but bashing cosplayers = discussion? Just deal with the fact that people think differently.

[Anonymous No.8771907]

>>8771897
*ensisihaus*

[Anonymous No.8771909]

>>8771906
What the hell do you come to /cgl/ for? Civilized discussion? You're just mad the gossiping concerns the wrong person.

[Anonymous No.8772706]

>>8771713
Change the con name from Frostbite to Frostsalt

[Anonymous No.8772892]

Soooo who deleted the Ilona picture? Did some salty bitch report it?

[Anonymous No.8772913]

>>8772892

I think I know who reported it.

[Anonymous No.8772918]

>>8772892

Salt on salt, it was probably both of you.

[Anonymous No.8772921]

>>8772918

So Ilona? You can find her out shoveling salt before and after every con.

[Anonymous No.8773110]

Petition to name the future Finland threads Ilona thread vol. X because that's all you seem to be able to talk about.

>>8770151
My costume is nowhere near finished and I swear I'm gonna punch myself if I end up doing embroidery during the Christmas dinner with my family.

[Anonymous No.8773208]

so... what is so amazing(ly bad?) about this Ilona person that she gets all this attention? never understood it.

>>8771402
seems interesting. i'll have to remember that

[Anonymous No.8773227]

>>8773208

Basically, she joins cosplay contests and would write long salty hate blogs about how she deserved to be the winner when she loses. She sucks up to people and she wants to be the center of attention the whole time. She makes mediocre costumes and goes for characters who she just doesn't have the face and body for. She's a huge laughing stock and lolcow in the Finnish cosplay scene.

[Anonymous No.8773435]

>>8773227
you are mean and probably, also, stupid

[Anonymous No.8773445]

>>8773435

>going to 4chan
>expecting a safe space

[Anonymous No.8773466]

>>8772921

You two would have a tough competition

[Anonymous No.8773675]

Y'all make me feel ashamed of being Finnish.

[Anonymous No.8773736]

lmao all the Ilona posts are getting deleted. Fuck you whiteknights.

[Anonymous No.8774327]

You really want to make this thread into another SCP hugbox? Nice going pussies. That still doesn't make us like Ilona.

[Anonymous No.8774337]

>>8774327
There's no point in posting here if these cows just report everything negative unless it's a person they don't like either. I doubt they want to actually talk about their costume progress or plans here, they're here for the gossip just like everyone else..

[Anonymous No.8774415]

>>8773675
So, when are you leaving the country?

[Anonymous No.8774661]

>>8770151
>nowhere near ready
Yup, it'd be that one.

I have some of the things I need, but nowhere near finished. I don't know if I can do it for Frostbite. I could go with my last summer Desu costume, but even that I'd have redo a bit.

[Anonymous No.8774673]

What do you think will be THE cosplay trends in Frostbite?

[Anonymous No.8774743]

>>8774673
Love Live? At least people have been recruiting for tens of LL groups...

[Anonymous No.8774775]

>>8774743
Wouldn't mind, actually.

As long as people do different outfits. There's ton to choose from.

[Anonymous No.8774853]

>>8774775
...just hoping there's at least one good group. Or decent? Or few who actually put some make-up on their faces.

[Anonymous No.8775040]

>>8774853

I feel the same way. It seems like people cannot be bothered to put on contact lenses, makeup and false lashes

[Anonymous No.8775081]

My costumes are at the point I'm sure I'll be having my share of all-nighters in the next few weeks.. really excited about the con though

[Anonymous No.8775157]

Me too! I'm super excited of desucon I just need to figure out how to get there. Train or bus..

[Anonymous No.8775169]

Siistii... mäkun ajattelin että täällä ois käyty järkevää keskustelua... Noh... Oon ollu aina sitä mieltä että suomalainen community on perseestä... Liitty se sitten mihin tahansa... Mo

[Anonymous No.8775228]

PERKELE VITTU SATAANA

[Anonymous No.8775258]

Satoko ulkona. :3

[Anonymous No.8775775]

>>8775040
Finns are always all about "natural beauty" and other shit. They're too shy about using good amount of make-up and kinda forgetting the fact that they're supposed to be someone else while cosplaying.
And then some defenders say they have "sensitive" eyes so they can't use make-up. Bad excuse. There are make-up suitable for sensitive eyes.

[Anonymous No.8775913]

>>8775775
I don't think it's about "favoring natural beauty", it's about girls who never learned to put on make up refusing to learn now and come up with excuses.

[Anonymous No.8775919]

>>8775775
me and my mum have both struggled for years trying to look for makeup that works for us (half of the sensitive-skin ones are not ok) so it is sometimes that bad. now she's using baby cream and I think we both use Lumene for mascara so
1) I disagree in that everyone can use said sensitive skin makeup, but
2) Finland has so many good local alternatives that it should be an issue in very few cases

[Anonymous No.8775922]

>>8771402
I wish it was a little bit more spesific maybe. There will lots of random roses slapped everywhere and it's kinda booring. I hope the replica ban will stick and we will have a brand guest! Last year there were girls with replica teaparties and I can't remember but maybe bags so it needs to be supervised better. The other one was Namiko tho so she didn't probably care enough.

[Anonymous No.8775935]

>tfw Finland is pretty cool, but they're pretty racist so I don't know whether they'd appreciate tourists

[Anonymous No.8775954]

>>8775935
The only tourists we hate are 30 yo Iraqi guys.

[Anonymous No.8775957]

>>8775775
Everyone has their own opinion etc but I honestly do not like the look of false lashes and circle lenses. It makes pretty girls look like aliens, and uglier girls just look like bugs.

[Anonymous No.8775999]

>>8775957
It's still more accurate to look like an alien while cosplaying an anime character than to look like a washed out potato. I hate it when cosplayers use just the regular foundation + mascara look because they just look like themselves rather than the character.
Although I do agree that circle lenses and lashes should be used in moderation, and you have to take the way the character looks and what fits your features into consideration. Badly done makeup is still bad regardless of if it's over the top lashes and lenses or just the run of the mill mascara and foundation.

[Anonymous No.8776007]

>>8775922
>complaining about replica tea parties and bags

I don't know about you but I don't have baby sized feet...

[Anonymous No.8776174]

>>8776007
So replicas are an only option? And some brand shoes, actually most, fit 38 which is finnish average. I don't get why you can't get some eBay shoes for 25e for one day and use replicas for the rest of the day if you have bigger feet.

[Anonymous No.8776291]

>>8771402
Am I the only one who thinks the typography in this poster is shit awful?

Sage for no contribution

[Anonymous No.8776325]

>>8776174
I'm size 39.5, usually have to go for 40. I'm not going to pay out of my arse for shoes which won't even fit me properly, sorry

Replica bags and shoes are pretty much accepted everywhere across the western world though, you're literally the first person I've ever heard complain about those. Sure if it's a certain brand's event wearing a replica of their items is kinda shit but
>implying brand events happen up here

[Anonymous No.8776346]

>>8776291
Now that you mentioned it.
H and N looks like the same. L letters won't match. Neither does O.

[Anonymous No.8776377]

>>8776325
Hellocon had a replica ban last year. I said use the fucking replicas as much as you like for the rest 364 days of year but don't bring them to Hellocon if there is a ban again. Unless you ment 25e for ebay shoes are much but then you shouldn't probably come in the first place. And btwshoe and bag replicas are illegal in Finland so no I'm not the first one. What is so different about them compared to prints beside art theft? And last brand is not only option. To Alice or generic Taobao shoes. Why is it so hard to live without replicas even when there is many options available nowadays? And it's required only for a one day if you are going.

[Anonymous No.8776408]

I wonder how many lightly dressed cosplayers will be at Frostbite next month? I think some people would be freezing their asses off again literally and figuratively.

[Anonymous No.8776418]

>>8776346
Phew, thought I was the only one.

[Anonymous No.8776536]

>>8775922
lol, lolita should never be about who has the most money

[Anonymous No.8776587]

>>8776536

But it is a pissing contest after all to show who is the most princess-like. There's no such thing as a princess without money, desu.

[Anonymous No.8776987]

Happy birthday Finland

[Anonymous No.8777285]

>>8776536

Lolita is about collecting (expensive) fashion pieces. It always takes more or less money.

Inb4 "BWAAAAH U MEAN ELITIST"

[Anonymous No.8777286]

My costune is half way done and I haven't started with the props yet.. I also have a plan b costume but that needs some tweaking also. I might just end up recycling old stuff. Do you guys have experience on how long will kankaita.com ship their stuff? If I order after xmas will the fabrics be here before the con :'D

[Anonymous No.8777327]

>>8777285
This was about replicas. You don't have to spend as much money as brand just don't show up with your replicas to Hellocon.

[Anonymous No.8777380]

>>8777286
It takes 3 weeks max. 1 week waiting for payment and handling the order. Rest is just shipping time.
Though I hope you ordered some samples first because it's really about luck to get the right shade.

[Anonymous No.8777505]

I wonder if we're gonna get any snow for Frostbite..

[Anonymous No.8777533]

>>8777505

Maybe we won't. I hope we do. Snow is better than rain and darkness.

[Anonymous No.8777782]

>>8777380
I ordered samples. And my GOD did it take long to deliver them! 3 weeks is kinda long though.. Ugh.. Gotta keep looking from Eurokangas palalaaris and little fabric stores.. If I only had the money to go visit estonia.

[Anonymous No.8777785]

>>8777782
I somehow understood that you were talking about the sunken ship and was kinda lost for a moment there.

[Anonymous No.8777834]

>>8777785
am estonian, kek'd

>>8777782
is it really that bad over there, or am I missing some big secret estonian fabric store? abakhan and the other random store I've visited have kinda meh selection aside from fleece, very thin cotton and for some reason fake fur

[Anonymous No.8777839]

>>8777834
I don't get why people praise Tallinn for its fabric stores either. The prices are about the same as they are in Finland and the selection isn't that amazing.

[Anonymous No.8777916]

>>8777834
Kanga Dzungel has sales like every month. And these days stundents get some sort of sale too.
Abakhan has nice deal of leftover fabrics and it's cheaper there than here.
Karnaluks is just... Karnaluks. Here satin ribbon costs over 1e /m. In karnaluks it's like 0,20e? Same thing with lace.

T. Lived in Tallinn for 2months and hoarded enough of stuff.

[Anonymous No.8777919]

>>8777834
I praise Kankaita.com though. Yes it might take few weeks to arrive but it's cheap as hell and good quality.
I plan my cosplays way early anyway.

[Anonymous No.8778728]

>>8777916
Only cheap store from your list is Abakhan (only fabrics, especially the ones what are leftovers).
But most of their crafting stuff (D-rings, lace, ribbons etc etc) is marked 2-6 times up. You can find better prices from Abakhan stores what are not near the harbor.
Kanga Dzungel gets most of their stuff from China and you can find them many times cheaper from ebay. Also better prices in stores what are not near the harbor.
Karnaluks is just Finns trap. All the stuff is available for cheaper prices but you have to find right place where to buy them.
If you are looking cheap materials and such then you should try finding places like Trixel, Rosemary AL or Rivet in Tallinn.
There is also Kangas ja Nööp what has some high end fabrics, but the prices are pretty high.

[Anonymous No.8778884]

soo whaddaya think, will those nyymis from ylilauta get any con pussy with their brand new invention: the con wrist band?

[Anonymous No.8780153]

BTSSB will be at Hellocon!

[Anonymous No.8780211]

Reika will be the guest of honor at Animecon 2016.

I am really interested, Kaname at Cosvision has been the best GoH (had a good and long conversation with him) so I guess Reika will be really good as well.

[Anonymous No.8780237]

>>8776346
It's like that so you can read it upside down too.

[Anonymous No.8780281]

>>8778884
I really hope I see some retard wearing one at Frostbite just so I can laugh my ass off.

[Anonymous No.8780431]

>>8780211
A terrible choice for a GoH. How about getting an actual professional next time?

[Anonymous No.8781480]

>>8780431
haha 1/10 troll, nice try

[Anonymous No.8781651]

Frostbite finally soldout.

[Anonymous No.8781673]

>>8781480
Is it that hard to believe that most people don't give a shit about Reika?

[Anonymous No.8781692]

>>8781673
Still better then last years GOH

[Anonymous No.8781772]

>>8781673
A small percentage.
If you don't like it, don't go or make your own event instead. Your small lesser opinion isn't going to change anyone's mind.

[Anonymous No.8782005]

>>8781772

I understand your point but it isn't going to come across: this is a place where people come to whine about stuff, not hoping to change things. If you feel the negativity here is hurtful, just ignore it. It's kinda the point and I don't think being all "tee ite parempi" helps. At all.

That being said, I'm not too mad about Reika. I'm a bit disappointed tho, at first I kinda had my hopes up for a seiyuu (they had this guessing game and the first clue worded it that way) and the next thing I know it's a cosplayer. Shouldn't get my hopes up with Animecon, I guess.

[Anonymous No.8782231]

I've already bought sewing machine and fabric but haven't even started making my costume for Frostbite. Is it too late? I'm a boy btw and it's my first time making a costume.

[Anonymous No.8782253]

>>8782231
In 20 days you can still do pretty much anything (especially if you don't have to wait for any orders f.ex. a wig to arrive), so it's mostly a question on whether you'll spend the necessary time on the cosplay or use it doing other things, leaving the cosplay to the actual last minute and ending up fucked, not finished or just with a rushed cosplay that you might not be satisfied with. So be smart about your time and you'll be more than fine.
Good luck with it!

[Anonymous No.8782360]

>>8782005
Also a place where no one cares about your salt.

[Anonymous No.8782840]

>>8782360
Just shut up and stop being mad that not everyone gives a shit about cosplayers as GoH's.
>>8782005 is right, this is a place for voicing opinions regardless of if they're positive or negative, and people don't actually care if someone gives a shit about their "salt" when they just want to vent. If it bothers you so much you should follow your own advice and stop talking because no one cares if you're upset that people don't agree with you.
Reika a cute but she's way too overhyped, and a cosplayer as a GoH anywhere else than a cosplay convention is a cop out.

[Anonymous No.8782849]

>>8782840
>Reika a cute but she's way too overhyped
This. I have nothing against her but she's in no way GoH material. Cosplay guests are dull in general and I was disappointed for the same reason as >>8782005 . Reika's only specialty is that she's famous, I doubt that's enough to make an interesting guest. I'd rather have a mangaka or a director or a voice actor again.

[Anonymous No.8782877]

Desucon had that one random cosplayer as a guest this summer. She had some program and then sold her stuff. I saw her wandering alone or just alone selling her stuff.

Though she wasn't GoH. She was just an invited (?) guest there.
Seemed like a sad case.

Reika might not be the same as that cosplayer but what more she brings to the con since she's GoH? Shitty make-up tutorials so everyone can contour awfully?

[Anonymous No.8782892]

>>8782877
As far as I know she wasn't invited either..? I have no idea what was the staff's deal with her. As for Reika, a lot of people don't even know her or care about her. Nobody cared about Shappi at Yukicon or Kairi at Cosvision. Cosplay guests just don't work here because the community is so small and people who don't cosplay don't care about cosplayers.

[Anonymous No.8782976]

>>8782877
>Shitty make-up tutorials so everyone can contour awfully?

Oh lordy! THIS! She's a mediocre cosplayer who has shitty makeup skills. IDK why she became famous in the first place. Maybe because she's Japanese and the wapanese are eating it all up simply because of her nationality?

Reika aside, Seiyuus or people who ACTUALLY works in the industry would have been a whole lot better.

>tfw you'll never meet Norio Wakamoto at any Finnish con because wapanese keep calling for shitty cosplayers

[Anonymous No.8783045]

>>8782976
I want Ryukishi07 and few others wants him too seeing Twitter. And I think many con goers would like him since lots of Finns like Higurashi and Umineko.

[Anonymous No.8783046]

>>8782976
>people who ACTUALLY works in the industry would have been a whole lot better
If we're using that argument, I really wish we'd get more guests who weren't VA's. I agree that they bring way more content than a cosplayer or a western youtube personality (seriously wtf was up with that), but at the end of the day VA's can only tell you what they themselves do for work rather than how anime is made. And as much as I'm sure that everyone loves to see their favorite VA in person, the only programs they ever seem to get are Q&A's which always consist of the same boring questions of "what was your favorite role" and "what do you need to be succesfull". I'd rather we get animators, directors and script writers and have their programs consist of the guest talking about their work rather than a Q&A session. Mangaka are also interesting, even a magazine editor could provide a lot of insight on how things work over there. Basically just anyone who actually does something other than voice a character because even though it's important and an admirable job to do, it just doesn't really give you much information on the industry as a whole, unless the program lets the VA themselves choose what to talk about or they do a proper interview with someone who's actually capable of hosting such a thing. Actually if we're going the VA route just invite a couple of people who've worked with something together and have them chat away about their experiences because that'd be endlessly more entertaining than the Q&A panels and interviews with hosts who don't know the first thing about the guest or their job.

Desucon is the only con I have hope for in the GoH aspect and even they've been relatively disappointing, not because of the people they invite but how the programs are planned. I'll never stop being bitter about GoH programs being wasted on the contest entries from the con goers because that's just absolute bull.

[Anonymous No.8783376]

I wonder if the merchants' hall would have anything interesting this year?

[Anonymous No.8783406]

>>8782840
Speaking of being mad, that's a lot of salt you have over a tiny thing.

[Anonymous No.8783495]

>>8782976
Wakamoto was at a Finnish con.

[Anonymous No.8783508]

>>8783495

I wasn't able to make it that time due to family reasons. Please dont remind me.

>tfw missed the chance

[Anonymous No.8783554]

this thread :^D
>you're salty!
>no, you are salty!

[Anonymous No.8784061]

>>8783376
The merchants are always the same.They've been pretty much the same since I started going to con 2007.
I always check the hall for once only since everything is overpriced and you could get everyhing online much cheaper.

[Anonymous No.8784064]

>>8783554
You and all the salt shakers can join the discussion instead of bumping nonsense

[Anonymous No.8784073]

>>8784064
LOL

[Anonymous No.8784177]

Has there been any info of a flea market in Frostbite? I haven't seen any.

[Anonymous No.8784254]

It's sad how there's really nothing left to talk about in Finnish threads because of whiteknights and reporters to the mods. There's worse drama in the Sweden thread but this is just too tame. Everything is deleted because people need their safe spaces. Boohoo. Why can't we talk about our lolcows?

[Anonymous No.8784299]

>>8784254
Hush anon, we want to talk about our mundane cosplay plans and con activities to keep everything nice and friendly!

[Anonymous No.8784301]

>>8784299

This is not SPC but it feels like a more harshly monitored version of it

[Anonymous No.8786317]

How do you guys prepare for a con and get into the 'con mood'?
Do you catch up on the most recent series? Watch old panels on youtube?

Or how do you cosplayers get into the mood to work on cosplays? Have you started early? Still haven't started? Do you watch/listen to something while working?

[Anonymous No.8786412]

>>8786317
The only time I watch anime is when I make cosplays. It's mainly brainless slice of life moeshit since it's the only stuff I can watch while painting or doing hand sewing.

[Anonymous No.8786720]

>>8784301
then gb2 lolcow site

[Anonymous No.8788957]

>>8786720

Sach edgy

[Anonymous No.8791316]

>>8784177
Now there is https://desucon.fi/frostbite2016/uutiset/2015/12/kirpputori-tulee-taas/

[Anonymous No.8791638]

>Frostbite in two weeks
>I'm nowhere near ready
>I only have really one week left on working on stuff, the actual con week is way too busy for me
>maybe not even that

Maybe I should just throw the fucking thing away and be done with it

[Anonymous No.8794307]

So yeah there's a Finnish... "cosplayer" in Playboy. Torilla tavataan?

[Anonymous No.8794399]

>>8794307
Oh dear Lord please no.

[Anonymous No.8794417]

>>8794307
Let's just do everyone a favor and deny she's from Finland.

[Anonymous No.8794419]

>>8794307
Well Anna-Sofia is one of the prettiest cosplayer in Finland. Can't actually think of anyone else since most of the cosplayers look like potatoes (including me too)

[Anonymous No.8794440]

>>8794419
Shut up, with that chin she looks like she was born a male.

[Anonymous No.8794452]

>>8794440
Well who's the prettiest then?
Most of the finns has a strong jaw.

[Anonymous No.8794463]

>>8794452
There's no prettiest cosplayer. Most Finnish cosplayers are pretty to average. There are other options besides a potato and an unrealistic beauty.

[Anonymous No.8794488]

>>8784061
Luckily, there's the flea market. Desucon's flea market had some cheap prices of some video games & figures, expecting the same now for Yukicon.

[Anonymous No.8794737]

>>8794488
>tfw a box of manga and figures for flea market

Hopefully people will buy those. I already have to ship them to Lahti because I can't fit them to my bag, wouldn't want to haul them back home

[Anonymous No.8795112]

>>8768421

>tfw Finland threads are so empty

[Anonymous No.8795154]

>>8795112
Just like the population

[Anonymous No.8795811]

>>8795112
That's because thanks to the whiteknights we're not allowed to talk about anything here.

[Anonymous No.8795820]

I'm actually pretty excited to see the ECG. Competitions are usually well organized in Desucon and the judges seem to be ok. Hoping we don't need to be too embarrassed about Finnish skits again...

[Anonymous No.8795829]

>>8795820

Call me a hugbox circlejerker if you want, but I think Finnish skits are getting better and better every year. Sure, there are cringe-worthy skits almost always, but that's only one or two, but there has been an increase in enjoyable performances. The majority is watchable.

(My opinion might be positive because I'm an oldfag and when I was young we had to sit through numerous yaoi skits and Caramelldancens so the current state of things is actually great to me)

[Anonymous No.8796215]

>>8795829
I think so too, some the skits have been really good and creative recently. Of course, every competition has bad skits but these days there are at least 3 good ones to fill the top trio. Even our representatives' skits have been good on an international level. Not amazing, but not cringeworthy or boring either.

[Anonymous No.8800989]

Only 8 days left! Are you hyped?

[Anonymous No.8801004]

>>8800989
Nngh, there was so much time, were did it all go?

[Anonymous No.8801157]

I just moved to Finland and might go to a con one of these days, how much of antisocial/bullies people are in finnish cons?

[Anonymous No.8801200]

>>8801157
Get one drunk and you'll learn his life story.

[Anonymous No.8801215]

>>8801157
People rarely say anything rude to anyone's face at cons, instead they come to cgl to laugh.
Finnish conventions are one of the few places where Finns are quite social. People might seem reserved but are eager to chat, given you're not a creep.

[Anonymous No.8801618]

Winter surprised Desucon, convention delayed due to cold weather.

[Anonymous No.8801628]

>>8801618
As if weather could affect Desucon

[Anonymous No.8801699]

>>8801618
>>8801628
In all seriousness, I actually dread walking around at Lahti before opening and especially on nights when going to school to sleep.

It's gonna be cold as balls there.

[Anonymous No.8801703]

>>8801699
Take a taxi. If you have 4 people the cost is not going to kill you.

[Anonymous No.8801717]

>>8801703
Look, I don't even know if I have a place to stay on Saturday night. I was dumbass and only got school floor place for Friday night. My friend who lives in Riihimäki said that I could go sleep on his floor, but I'd have to leave pretty early from the party, and I would rather not.

But we'll see. Maybe I can go sleep on a toilet.

[Anonymous No.8801720]

>>8801717
Sorry anon but in that case you can only blame yourself.

I'm old enough that I like to pay for convenience such as hotels and taxis. Makes a con a lot more comfortable.

[Anonymous No.8802625]

>>8801200
>>8801157
can confirm

[Anonymous No.8802723]

>>8801717
I used to drive back to Helsinki sleep every night during last frostbite. It's actually cheaper than hotel. And it's not that long drive either.

[Anonymous No.8802729]

>>8801157
I think it might be hard to get friends in cons? I mean everyone has their groups already and might feel weird if a stranger invades. Though that works in normal life too.
People are friendly. Staff is even friendlier. You just need to do the first move. Go talk to people. People won't bully you.

[Anonymous No.8802763]

>>8802729
Not the one you reply to, but I get a new friend from almost every con I go to. You just need to have good convo skills and be able to spot people with similiar interests. Also say hi to them when you pass by inside the con.

[Anonymous No.8802770]

>>8802729
>good convo skills
>approaching people
Wish it was that easy.

[Anonymous No.8802812]

>>8801157
Don't worry the Finnish scene is full of liberal pro-refugee c*cks who are nothing like Finnish nationalists

[Anonymous No.8802872]

>>8802812
Seconding this. Foreigners have nothing to be afraid of.

[Anonymous No.8802897]

>>8802812
You'd be surprised at how little love many cosplayers have for minorities in Finland. They're oppressed and subjugated and deserve all the pity they can get, as long as they are somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.8802904]

>>8802812
>>8802872
>>8802897
You are misunderstanding me, I am not a refugee. However, for me, it seems everywhere people love minorities as long as they have nothing to do with them.

[Anonymous No.8802921]

>>8802897
I can't speak for all cosplayers but at least the "big names" are constantly spouting full YLE tier propaganda.

[Anonymous No.8802929]

>>8802921
Yeah, over the internet. Not when they're not maintaining any persona. Sure, not all of them, but surprisingly many.

[Anonymous No.8802930]

>>8802929
That's even worse. But doesn't surprise me that Finns don't live the way they preach for the sake of being PC and getting ego boost points.

[Anonymous No.8802961]

>>8802897
Who can blame them? The refugees are constantly messing up the place.

[Anonymous No.8802978]

>>8802921
It's the trendy thing to do now. But I'm quite certain that none of them would like to live next to a refugee reception centre themselves.

[Anonymous No.8802982]

>>8802961
The thing is same people are publicly judging people who don't bother being political correct over these issues.

[Anonymous No.8802994]

But that's just Finnish scene in general, everyone pretends it's a big hug box when the truth is something else. And I understand why it's like that, it's so easy to ruin your reputation especially when people get butthurt over the smallest things so easily.

[Anonymous No.8803007]

>>8802904

Cool then. I'm new to Finland myself. When will the first con for you be? I usually go to most cons since I have free time. If you want to hang out then we could. I'll make a throwaway email where we can communicate in if you want.

[Anonymous No.8803212]

>>8802994
that's bullshit. Finns have a lot less backstabbing going on than other countries. The ones who are bitches are bitches to your face.

[Anonymous No.8803540]

>>8803212

Prove it

[Anonymous No.8803558]

>>8803540
Because all the other claims in this thread are backed with solid proof.

[Anonymous No.8803575]

>>8803558
These bitches eat up everything that gives them any reason to bash the popular girls. Anything to the contrary is dismissed with "Hello X, you suck! And that's valid criticism and you have no right to be angry!"

[Anonymous No.8803584]

>>8803575

Well the "popular" girl that was mentioned earlier (whose posts were all deleted) and the other "popular" girl were just terrible people and they were popular in the first place because they are awful people who cause drama and thrive on it.

[Anonymous No.8803597]

>>8803584
What drama have these "popular" girls ever actually caused? Honest question. And no, you disagreeing with them about something doesn't count.

Honestly the Finnish cosplay scene is so devoid of drama that it seems anything vaguely negative is considered close enough.

[Anonymous No.8803631]

>>8803597
Won a cosplay competition without deserving it.

[Anonymous No.8803634]

>>8803597

Let's see... the first one was popular for crying about how she should win all the time and the reason why she's doesn't win is because of *insert accusation here*.

The other one is an attention mongerer who has recently went on playing internet police far too often. She's not funny, the advice she tries to cram down everyone's throats is good for nothing and the way she's desperate to be talked about fills me with embarrassment. People are really alienated by her stupid ego trip she's been on for a while and losing the ancient respect they had for her.

[Anonymous No.8803655]

>>8803634
I probably shouldn't even be replying here but you-know-who posted a rant about losing only once during the 8 years or something they have been cosplaying. And that was like three years ago.

Maybe time to let it go anon.

[Anonymous No.8803674]

>>8803634
That's a lot of pent up frustration you seem to have there, anon. Is there a personal reason you're so upset about someone's personality, and something that happened years ago?

[Anonymous No.8803690]

>>8803674
>>8803655

I was merely answering the question why people are bashing the "popular" girls and why they are "popular" nowadays and to begin with. The discussion about them didnt magically appear out of nowhere you know?

[Anonymous No.8803709]

>>8803690
Yeah, because you've been keeping it on life support for years now. It fires up again every single time X competes or even contemplates it.

[Anonymous No.8803719]

>>8803709

LOL. Are you implying that it fires up whenever X competes because there's one person stoking the flame and holding it up all these years? It obviously isn't the case. It's just that whenever people see X's face that's the first thing that comes to people's minds because it was the most noteworthy thing she has done and it's not something people forget. X's name equates to sore loser because of that event whether you like it or not. That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.8803725]

>>8803719
Yeah ok whatever

[Anonymous No.8803729]

mfw reading this thread atm

[Anonymous No.8803735]

>>8803719
>That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.8803743]

>>8803719
Sorry darling, but to most her name equates one of the most influential people in the Finnish scene, and a really friendly person.

[Anonymous No.8803797]

>>8803743

[Anonymous No.8803807]

>>8803797
That the best you can come up with?

[Anonymous No.8803822]

>>8803797
>>8803807
Fighto, fighto!

[Anonymous No.8803841]

>>8803807

I won't waste my time on your whiteknighting. Go have fun on the Internet, keyboard warrior.

[Anonymous No.8803918]

>>8803743
Now I know you're just baiting, honey. Nobody's this retarded.

[Anonymous No.8803924]

>>8803841
>white knight
>keyboard warrior
What would you call yourself, then?

[Anonymous No.8803927]

>>8803918
Holding the position she does, does make you quite influential in the scene. Are you refuting this? If so, do tell why.
And being a friendly person, is that really so hard to believe?

[Anonymous No.8804479]

>>8803927

[Anonymous No.8804493]

>>8803927
What are you talking about? She's done nothing worth "influential" status. She's brought nothing new as a cosplay organizer nor as a cosplayer, she won the WCS preliminaries because the judges were very obviously biased. She's dull as a rock and the only people she's "influenced" are a few of her friends. Other than that people just don't care about her and/or think she's not interesting.

I'd like to hear what these "influential" things are, her talking about her ass all the time and pretending to be friends with cosfamous people?

[Anonymous No.8804495]

>>8803007
I am not sure which is the first con I'll go since I haven't started any cosplay. Might just go at summer without a cosplay to see how it is.

You can send an email to [e-mail], I'm extremely introverted though and not very friendly but I enjoy talking to people.

[Anonymous No.8804496]

>>8804493
>>8803927
>>8803918
>>8803743
>>8803719
>>8803709
>>8803690
Who are you guys talking about? I wanna know more finnish con drama.

[Anonymous No.8804498]

>>8804496
The thread will get deleted if we mention her name. All the posts that have mentioned it got curbed.

[Anonymous No.8804499]

>>8804498
Tell me a character she cosplays as. Can do with my googling skills.

[Anonymous No.8804502]

>>8804499
Come on anon, she's a cosplay organizer, a former WCS and ECS representative, she has a cosplay blog and she entered the stupid SM contest as Saber and came in third, it's not too hard to figure out who she is.

[Anonymous No.8804504]

>>8804502
I didn't read the whole thread because I can only get this much into drama. Sorry, anon.

[Anonymous No.8804505]

>>8804495
>[e-mail]

Will email you in a few minutes

[Anonymous No.8804507]

>>8804505
I'm jittery already.

[Anonymous No.8804508]

>>8804507

Email sent. LOL

[Anonymous No.8804536]

>>8804495
I would recommend either summer Desucon or Tracon. The rest are either in the middle of nowhere (Animecon) or just small in general.

But guys! In a week Frostbite will be going on full steam, are you hyped?

[Anonymous No.8804537]

>>8804536
I'm not going because I bought a computer and customs hit my package from Rakuten. I learned about it recently so had no time to plan myself.

[Anonymous No.8804540]

>>8804536

Kind of hyped. I just want to see what I can get from the merchant alley. I hope they have other Japanese snacks besides that cheap Pocky from Thailand.

[Anonymous No.8804598]

>>8804493
>Director of Cosplay of one of the largest cons in Finland, competitions twice a year
>WCS/ECC representative, has kept in touch with the organization/other contestants ever since
>Not influential
Sure, anon.

If the judges were biased, why aren't you complaining about them, instead of her?
How come, if she's so dull, she has managed to make more friends and contacts at WCS than all our other reps put together? And how about you try and prove how everyone is just "pretending" to be her friend? Is that what you do?

[Anonymous No.8804608]

>>8804598

You seem to take this very personally.

[Anonymous No.8804611]

>>8804608
The same could be said about the other poster. I just don't like bullying.

[Anonymous No.8804612]

>>8804611

It comes off as if you were the person in question herself or just a super delusional whiteknight. Best thing to do about this topic is just to stop talking about it. Your responses only extend the convo about her and is not doing any favors for the Desucon discussion.

[Anonymous No.8804623]

>>8804612
Not her, wouldn't even call her a friend either. What personal experiences I do have with her, however, are completely contradictory to most of the accusations I hear here. As for the influentiality, it is not admiration, just stating the facts. For most people, i.e. the average congoer, the head of cosplay is an important person. Personal bias of some salty individual don't change that.
Every time she is mentioned, a shitflinging contest ensues. Why is bullying someone here ok, but defending is not? "Durr whiteknight" is a shitty comeback, and only makes you look like you have nothing to go by.

[Anonymous No.8804636]

>>8804623

Dude, your personal experiences do not reflect the rest of the populace's personal experiences with her. Some people will like her and some people will hate her for varying reasons.

Which part of stop talking about it do you not understand? Will you just shut up now and let the topic die a natural death instead of "Hurr durr I am on the side of Justice" and extending the convo about her?

[Anonymous No.8804649]

>>8804636
>for varying reason
Love it! Great way to say "for no real reason at all"

And why on earth would you think that "stop posting" would have any effect? You don't have to keep on responding either if you don't want to, sugar.

[Anonymous No.8804650]

Oh this is gold.

[Anonymous No.8804659]

>>8804649

So much rabid butthurt on the "X" defense force here. Carry on. Keep us amused.

[Anonymous No.8804664]

>>8804659
Nah, I'd defend mostly anyone. Our Belle is one of the only people I can think of not worth it, because she's a certified grade A scumbag.

[Anonymous No.8804670]

>>8804664
>I'm against bullying! I am siding with JUSTICE here!
>except for that one person, she's a fucking bitch

If I didn't know who you probably are, I'd say you're a 7/10 troll.

[Anonymous No.8804672]

>>8804670
With her, I actually know what she has done to people, whereas X's greatest crime appears to be doing too well on cosplay competitions or cosplaying characters others think do not fit her.

Are you saying these are equal offences?

[Anonymous No.8804674]

>>8804672

>dat blatant, unceasing praising

[Anonymous No.8804681]

>>8804674
You should do some reading
> As for the influentiality, it is not admiration, just stating the facts. For most people, i.e. the average congoer, the head of cosplay is an important person.

Oh wait, sorry, I almost thought you had something to say

[Anonymous No.8804682]

>>8804672
She's also butthurt when she doesn't win with bad or mediocre costumes, tries to ride famous people's coat tails, is two-faced and rude to those "beyond her level", has a huge ego she has to bring out at every possible chance and make things all about her. Do you want more reasons why people don't like her? Because I can go on.

[Anonymous No.8804684]

>>8804672
I'm starting to suspect you're someone who's trying to aggravate people to talk shit about X. Nobody's this delirious.

[Anonymous No.8804687]

>>8804681

This is you

>pic related

[Anonymous No.8804693]

>>8804682
I've also heard she deals crack to her students. Got any proof to back you up? Or care to elaborate? The butthurtness I understand, but afaik it was one instance years ago. I would like to think she's grown as a person since then. I do agree that was rather immature on her behalf.

[Anonymous No.8804701]

>>8804693
>I've also heard she deals crack to her students.

[Anonymous No.8804713]

>rabid whiteknight hates Fia and persistently defends X while calling her "one of the most influential people of the scene" and taking the whole issue way too personally

You sure you're not her herself?

[Anonymous No.8804727]

>>8804713
If I was, I'd be mad stupid to write posts like this. There's vanity, then there's defending yourself online in 3rd person. I seriously hope no one does that.

[Anonymous No.8804732]

>>8804727

[Anonymous No.8804951]

>>8804693
Hey whiteknight-chan, how about offering some concrete proof of what this "Belle" has done instead of bullying her here?

[Anonymous No.8805040]

>>8804951

Hush anon. She can't because it would expose her identity.

[Anonymous No.8805079]

>>8804951
I wish I could use names, but if you remember a certain not-very-liked cosplayer that quite enjoyed Hetalia, used to date her. Cue physical and emotional violence, which lead to depression, self harm and serious abandonment issues. I'm not comfortable with going further into this, as several people who read this board got caught up in the shitshow that followed.

Later on, she has cheated on her boyfriends, and sent even me some rather suggestive private messages in the good ol' irc-galleria.

The latest I heard, before she pretty much vanished, was the issue with the ring and her almost-fiancee.

Of course this alone does not prove much, but I am not willing to drag other people into this discussion.

[Anonymous No.8805084]

>>8805079
Yeah, and where's the proof anon? This could all be exaggerated bullcrap and rumors.

[Anonymous No.8805096]

>>8805084
Let me repeat myself.
>Of course this alone does not prove much, but I am not willing to drag other people into this discussion.

Whether you believe me or not, is completely up to you. For more information, I suggest you go and ask people that were around from '07 onwards.

[Anonymous No.8805157]

>>8805096

>'07

Like seriously? You still haven't gotten over an event that happened around a decade ago. So salty anon.

[Anonymous No.8805214]

>>8805157

Like seriously. She almost ruined this one girl's life and that shouldn't be just "gotten over" and swept under the mat. Especially when she never apologized of what she had done. Not to mention all other not-so-nice things she has done to other people after that maybe not as nasty but rude anyway.

I'm not saying that it always should be mentioned or remembered but it's not something you take lightly. And besides, you asked for what she has done.

She is very beautiful yes but only from the outside. Her inside doesn't match the cover at all.
"Moni kakku päältä kaunis"

[Anonymous No.8805245]

>>8805214

I actually didnt ask for it. That was a different anon. But almost is just almost and it was a decade ago so it shouldn't even be brought up and worthy of being involved in any discussion. It's a dead story. Let it go.

[Anonymous No.8805250]

Well, the good part of all this is that at this rate, we'll get the new thread just before Frostbite starts.

A fresh start.

[Anonymous No.8806190]

Get the fuck over yourselves and your petty drama. Fucking women...

[Anonymous No.8806202]

I-is it just me, or is there really an extensive amount of d-drama in the Finnish anime scene?

[Anonymous No.8806252]

>>8806202
Indeed there is.

And go fuck yourself for posting Maki. I ordered her nendo after Christmas and according to tracking it will arrive to my parents' place tomorrow, just when I'm going to my dorm for two weeks thanks to Frostbite.
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[Anonymous No.8806254]

>>8806202
>>8806252
two posters on /cgl/ sure do equal a lot of drama, especially when the other one is still bitter about something that happened almost a decade ago. It's impossible to find recent drama.

And if you can't handle it anyway, why the fuck are you on /cgl/?

[Anonymous No.8806257]

>>8806254
Protip, it ain't just two.

[Anonymous No.8806263]

>>8805214
is this about fia? o_o (new to the scene, don't know any of this dramu)

[Anonymous No.8806269]

>>8806202
Nah, not really. I mean, it's interesting when we actually have some fresh drama to talk about, but in this thread people are just bickering over several years old stuff as usual. Finnish anime scene is relatively drama-free compared to other countries, really.

[Anonymous No.8806273]

All these people complaining about drama and yet they still go to /cgl/. Could you please just fuck off back to your hugboxes?

[Anonymous No.8806330]

>>8806254

It's actually more than 3 people talking, anon. It's just that certain Saber's whiteknight or maybe that Saber herself just can't let go of a decade old drama in an attempt to cover up for hers.

[Anonymous No.8806388]

Anyone ever cringe when X gets annoyingly sexually charged replies from a certain lawyer whenever X tweets something about cosplay?

[Anonymous No.8806403]

>>8805157
>>8805245
It wasn't just in 07 you know. Shit went on years and years. How new must you be not to know this?

[Anonymous No.8806416]

>tfw in a week Frostbite will be over

[Anonymous No.8806420]

>>8806388

How old is X btw? She looks like she's in her 30s or maybe late 20s.

[Anonymous No.8806438]

>>8806420
31 I think. And she has a kid.

[Anonymous No.8806453]

>>8806388
They've been doing that for years, it's just boring.

[Anonymous No.8806456]

>>8806388
the lawyer does that pretty much to everyone

[Anonymous No.8806462]

This'll be my first time I come to Desu on Friday. How does the ticket exchange work? If I'm at Sibbe 16:00 flat when the exchange begins, do I still have to roam Lahti for an hour, or do they let us in but there's not anything to do before 17?

And I know the line will probably be long and I'll freeze my ass off while waiting, but I'm just curious how it works

[Anonymous No.8806470]

>>8806462
>do I still have to roam Lahti for an hour
Yes.

We are planning to go change clothes at hotel after ticket exchange.

[Anonymous No.8806476]

>>8806438
Not hers, her husband's. "Lainaspawni" is a pretty good clue.

[Anonymous No.8806522]

>>8806470
Darn. I'll be at Lahti right before 12 because there wasn't better train for me, and I didn't think I'd need hotel.

Time to check everything Lahti has to offer, then