/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.9028682]

>ITT: Lolita Chasers and Male Fans of Lolita

Why are almost 90% of all male fans fucking skirt chasers? I thought I met this really cool guy at a local Con and not even 10 minutes into the conversation he asks me if im into Daddy roleplay. Its LITERALLY every time I meet a guy who says they're "real big fans of Lolita Fashion". How do you even weed out the liars?

[Anonymous No.9028723]

>>9028682
Sounds like they do a pretty good job of weeding themselves out if they outright ask you something like that.

[Anonymous No.9028729]

>>9028682
Im a lolita chaser, but Im not into the cringey roleplay.
I have a decent knowledge and interest in the fashion, I just like getting down and silly with the frilly.

[Anonymous No.9028730]

>>9028682
Ask them about brands or their favorite style, print, or dress and why they like it. But honestly they'll probably tell you really soon in the conversation. I don't care if they keep it to themselves, but they pretty much never do. Say you like it or think it's pretty or cute or whatever but please don't tell me it makes you hard and that I "have the perfect body for a little girl rp" or ask me about ddlg.

[Anonymous No.9028771]

>Male Lolita Fans


You should have said you wanted to adDRESS the situation.

[Anonymous No.9028782]

>>9028682
Don't hook up with anyone at Anime conventions. Ever.

[Anonymous No.9028790]

>>9028782
Idk about that anon, but I just want to make a convention acquaintance. The only guys that approach me are exactly like this. I try to keep everything as platonic as possible anyway, but no matter what they bring up sex. Never even just sex always ageplay and ddlg.

[Anonymous No.9028797]

>>9028790
I know theres one guy here (who got kicked out of CoF) who is highly opinionated on coords. Looked like someones wood-chopping uncle or something

[Anonymous No.9028818]

>>9028790
I don't know a lot about Lolita, but I do like it a lot and when I see someone in a very nice coord, I want to talk to them/compliment them. But then I worry that they will think I am just trying to hook up with or something. Saw a girl in a nice chocolate coord yesterday, but could not say anything.

[Anonymous No.9028836]

>>9028797
The guy with the beard right? Did something happen on cof? I was away for a while right after that.

>>9028818
I'm >>9028730 I don't care and I appreciate a compliment. My bf likes it too, but he's respectful and doesn't see it as a fetish thing. If you can avoid mentioning sex for at least a day you'll be miles above most guys. Just be aware even if you're polite some girls will probably still be a bit wary. You might be the only one like that they've ever seen or will see.

[Anonymous No.9028841]

>>9028682
Because guys are horny and desperate. The dresses stand out and make you a target.

[Anonymous No.9028870]

>>9028836
>The guy with the beard right? Did something happen on cof? I was away for a while right after that.
Aye, another lolita and him were bickering together about that nurse "coord" posted awhile back, he posted a screen shot, and they removed him from the group over it.

[Anonymous No.9028891]

>>9028870
Haha! Goodbye, beard-chan.

[Anonymous No.9028903]

>>9028891
He is still in the /cof/ threads, you can tell by the army terms he uses.

[Anonymous No.9028936]

>>9028836
I don't understand the whole lolita fetish and I don't want to. Unfortunately, I am a bit shy and worry a bit too much about them misunderstanding me. I just want a friend who can teach me more about lolita. If I see that chocolate lolita today, I'll try to muster up the courage to say hi.

[Anonymous No.9028937]

>>9028891
>>9028903
I thought i felt my ears burnin.

[Anonymous No.9028944]

I was really lucky with my SO, since before I even got to know him better he was legit interested in jfashion and attended panels at cons. When he talked to me about lolita, we talked about what substyles and themes he liked. When I decided to share my pics, he even gave me decent concrit haha.

I think they keypoint is to see the difference between admiring the fashion and being attracted to it. They can't just "like" it, they have to understand what elements they like or don't like, and not just how it's eyecatching and "looks cute".

[Anonymous No.9028945]

>>9028936
If you lurk first you'll have more to talk about, but I wouldn't expect much. Unless you're in a convention or something similar most random strangers aren't going to talk for long periods of time or exchange numbers. Especially when usually the longer you talk to a guy in lolita the bolder they tend to get.

[Anonymous No.9028981]

>>9028945
>Especially when usually the longer you talk to a guy in lolita the bolder they tend to get.

Theres a reason behind that. The longer you talk to them (if they are a coord cutter, anyway) the more it seems like you are interested in them. If they ask for your opinions are you are met with mmhms and yeahs, they are just gauging on how much of them you can tolerate, and in their minds are thinking they are building a report with you. If they bring up ddlg in a very light way, at all, you should pop smoke immediately

[Anonymous No.9028996]

>>9028981
Even if they go "Can you believe those people with that daddy fetish?". Theyre looking for your reaction and will then go off of it, and theres no other reason to bring it up in conversation. Male Lolita fans know exactly how much of a cliche' it is and know how the community feels about it

[Anonymous No.9029005]

>>9028996
>>9028981
Yeah, that's what I mean by they'll reveal themselves pretty quickly. It's like how if they just came up and asked how you felt about sissies. No matter how "subtle" it's still pretty obvious. Not to mention they almost always use that certain tone and facial expression.

[Anonymous No.9029019]

>>9029005
>Aayyeee how yah feel about me rippan up dat petti.

Once saw a guy catch a shoe to the nuts in Missouri from a lolita wearing sweet, always assumed it was over this kind of nonsense

[Anonymous No.9029104]

>>9028682
>Why are almost 90% of all male fans fucking skirt chasers?
because straight men see the world as their sexual playground and 90% of their reasons for interacting with women at all are sexual reasons, to the point where anything remotely feminine is a potential target for sexual gratification. women = sex.

stick with queer guys, asexuals, etc. they are more likely to appreciate the fashion for what it is, because they aren't part of the women=sex mindset.

[Anonymous No.9029109]

>>9029104
>because straight men see the world as their sexual playground and 90% of their reasons for interacting with women at all are sexual reasons, to the point where anything remotely feminine is a potential target for sexual gratification. women = sex.

Rude

[Anonymous No.9029119]

>>9029104
I'm a male but I would never talk about sex unless the woman brought it up first.

[Anonymous No.9029120]

>>9029104
Maybe I mean, just maybe, behaving like a skank will get you treated like one? The way you carry yourself impacts this greatly.

[Anonymous No.9029130]

>>9029120
>behaving like a skank will get you treated like one
>Dressing like a skank

[Anonymous No.9029131]

>>9029130
please keep that monstrosity in the thread it came from. I would like to keep my lunch in my stomach.

[Anonymous No.9029133]

>>9028818
This is just me, but I'm usually happy when people outside of cons approach me knowing what lolita is. I even had a guy around my age approach me at a bar once to be like "hey, is that lolita? It looks nice!" That was it. It wasn't creepy and felt genuine. I think something like that is probably usually fine, but don't get weird or try to continue a convo if the person doesn't seem into it.

[Anonymous No.9029156]

>>9029119
i am too, and a good percentage of men (especially the type who live in sexual fantasy worlds most of the time via porn and seldom interact with representations of women--let alone actual women--outside of sexual roles) see every interaction with femininity as inherently sexual. women don't complain about this for no reason.

>>9029120
>behaving like a skank
what does that entail, and what does it have to do with OP's question about male fans of lolita being thirsty fools?

[Anonymous No.9029164]

>>9029156
You're confusing "male fans of lolita" with random guys who want some fugg and see a pretty dress.

[Anonymous No.9029165]

>>9029156
If you have to ask what behaving like a skank is like you're probably a skank.

[Anonymous No.9029181]

>>9029164
>You're confusing "male fans of lolita" with random guys who want some fugg and see a pretty dress.
what is your theory for why most straight male fans of lolita are sexually interested in the women who wear the fashion? it is pretty straightforward. a straight man into model trains is going to jizz his pants over a woman who is skilled at and excited for the same hobby. when the hobby is inherently feminine it amplifies the sexual connection with the hobby itself and the women within it.

it is the same deal with cosplay fanboys.

>>9029165
yeah i didn't think you were talking about OP's point but i wanted to make sure.

[Anonymous No.9029195]

>>9029164
Unless they're fans of fashion in general 98% of the time it's because they fap to it. Someone who thinks certain dresses or outfits are cute isn't a "male fan of lolita" they're just someone who likes that particular thing. All of the guys I've gotten that won't shut up about sex already knew about lolita, talked about it almost exclusively, and specifically said they were "fans of the style". They're like clones. obviously guys that fap to it but don't harass lolitas exist, but you won't notice them irl because they aren't the ones that flag you down and jump from AP's newest releases to ageplay.

[Anonymous No.9029199]

>>9029195
What started the correlation between lolita fashion and this daddy-issues roleplay shit?

[Anonymous No.9029204]

>>9029019
... might have been. Being a lolita who was once a part of a couple of Missouri comms, I've seen girls take physical action over a variety of things. At a meet, one dude tried to hike a girl's skirt up from behind and copped an elbow in the face for his troubles.

Those girls don't take shit lying down.

[Anonymous No.9029205]

>>9029195
>Unless they're fans of fashion in general 98% of the time it's because they fap to it
adding to this, my straight male fan who likes lolita and doesn't treat it as part of his sexual fantasy playground also likes feminine and cute things in general, wears makeup, likes male and female fashion, and has crossdressed. he is mistaken for gay because he likes feminine things but isn't always rubbing his dick all over them.

for most guys, interaction with feminine things is inherently sexual. either you want to fuck it, or want to be it (and be fucked), or both. the rare men who enjoy frills and cuteness in a nonsexual way confuse the fuck out of everyone.

[Anonymous No.9029211]

>>9029205
>my straight male fan
friend, not fan

[Anonymous No.9029216]

>>9029199
The name, probably.

[Anonymous No.9029224]

Reading all this makes me wonder how I got lucky. I mean my bf likes me dressing up in lolita and thinks its cute but he's never ever made it sexual, its always just been "cute"

Ive met a few of those men that link lolita to the book lolita though which is how I think >>9029199 got started, people hear the name and see "frills" and go "Oh like that book about the little girl!" all they see is

>cute
>pastels
>frilly
>definitely something only a little girl would wear or someone who wanted to pretend to be a little girl

[Anonymous No.9029229]

>>9029205
>straight
>wears makeup and cross dresses

Kek

[Anonymous No.9029233]

>>9029199
I honestly don't know. I guess maybe they saw pink + poofy and thought it must be a little girl thing? Lolita and j-fash in general gets seen as a costume by normies all the time. And men who watch tons of porn (aka 99% of tumblr "daddies") think literally everything women do is for men. So they probably think it's like a sex costume or something. I do know a lot of lolitas get their posts reblogged by "daddies" that add captions to them and once a few of them see it the rest probably joined in.

What I don't understand is that lolita looks absolutely nothing like ageplay/little clothing. This is what the average ageplayer wants and dresses in if they're one of the rare skinny ones. They want actual children's clothes that are practical to play in both non-sexually and sexually. They're also very anal about age appropriate things. Littles are a bit different because they aren't playing a certain role so they could like it and think it fits the "princess role". But like >>9029216 said they were probably browsing through the lolita tag and saw it. Tons of weebs and tumblrinas have gotten into ddlg and ageplaying now that it's cool on tumblr so that probably has a lot to do with it too.

Also for all the complaints of ageplayers mixing ageplay with sweet literally every lolita I saw mixing it was extremely ita and usually into gothic or oldschool. Like classic milanoo ita. They were also usually weebs who saw it as a form of cosplay. Annoyingly enough there was one ita who linked hello lace and some other sites so that probably brought some creeps in.

[Anonymous No.9029239]

>>9029233
Some have gotten more educated unfortunately, but they still manage to be ita anyway.

[Anonymous No.9029246]

>>9029104
I'm sorry but you might need to leave your safe space for long enough to realize that things like men not being attracted to you is a thing. I've had more harrassment from my fellow lesbians who think it's okay to grab my boob without asking than males while I'm in lolita.

[Anonymous No.9029249]

>>9029239
This is the best I've ever seen and it's still not great.

[Anonymous No.9029251]

>>9029239
Is there really a lolita board on fetlife?

[Anonymous No.9029254]

>>9029229
crazy, right? almost as if for some people, femininity is not inherently sexual, and doesn't signify any kind of boner-inducing state at all.

[Anonymous No.9029259]

>>9029239
>Latex Lolita
I cannot even dream of a way that will end any way but terrible.

[Anonymous No.9029265]

>>9029246
still male, as stated previously, so be careful with your assumptions about who is posting what and what their life experiences are.

the existence of lesbian molestors does not change the fact that straight men are used to having their sexual fantasies catered to by multiple industries invested in soliciting their cash, which in turn impacts how they (straight men) relate to women. remember, the topic is specifically straight men who are fans of lolita and why OP feels most of them also direct their sexual desires towards women in the fashion.

also make like a Missourian and slap a bitch next time she goes for the tit.

[Anonymous No.9029266]

>>9029251
More than a few of them. The word lolita is blocked but if you search for fashion you'll find a few. The go onto one of the member's page and you'll find some of the other ones.

It's way more popular on tumblr though. Almost every 3rd ddlg/ageplay tumblr I've seen has reblogged at least some lolita clothing or accessories. Other j-fashions like fairy kei too. This picture is on tons of them.

>>9029259
It's been tried before and turned out exactly how you'd expect.

[Anonymous No.9029267]

>>9029254
he's a gay, just in denial.

[Anonymous No.9029273]

>>9029266
Fairy kei is way more age play-y than Lolita though. It looks like something an actual little girl would wear while a Lolita doesn't.

[Anonymous No.9029276]

>>9029267
visit /hm/ and tell me if you think gay men are all about emulating female fashion.

[Anonymous No.9029282]

>ALL MALE FANS ARE PIIGGGSSS

Just how the fuck are we to prove we're not, with such claims? You'd just say we're well educated predators

[Anonymous No.9029283]

>>9029273
Maybe it's because lolita has that doll vibe, and people associate that with little girls?

[Anonymous No.9029289]

>>9029276
the twinks and trannies are.

[Anonymous No.9029292]

>>9029282
>"almost 90%" (OP)
>"all" (You)

OP may have been exaggerating, but the number is pretty high. it sucks for those of us who don't experience lolita as just another extension of our sexuality, but like people in this thread have said, you can usually tell a man is not into it for sexual reasons if he appreciates other fashion and symbols of femininity without being lewd about it.

i don't think men who are in it for the boners are pigs or are morally inferior, but it would be naive to pretend that there aren't a disproportionate number of them.

[Anonymous No.9029303]

>>9029273
I agree completely. I mean I love it just as much but it's very similar in some coords. I was the anon who posted that outfit and said so before.

>>9029282
Don't talk about sex, ddlg, or ageplay. That's all you have to do and what every guy without in interest in other fashion fails to do.

>>9029292
It's been literally all but my bf for me. My bf even thinks it's lewd, but he doesn't turn it into a fetish thing and knows that's it's solely a fashion. So I'd say it's even 90% isn't that big of an exaggeration.

[Anonymous No.9029306]

>>9029292
Oranges and Apricots

[Anonymous No.9029316]

>>9029303
>It's been literally all but my bf for me. My bf even thinks it's lewd, but he doesn't turn it into a fetish thing and knows that's it's solely a fashion. So I'd say it's even 90% isn't that big of an exaggeration.
i wish that the few straight men on this board who enjoy lolita without popping a boner over it would read posts like this more seriously. it took me a long time to accept it because i felt personally attacked when the subject would arise, but my experience and the experience of my comm and other anons has been a depressing wake-up call.

if any anon reading is in the 10-or-whatever-percent of straight men who both a) like lolita, and b) don't see lolita as inherently sexual, the thread isn't about you. the stereotype isn't fair, and it poses barriers for entry into the community, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

[Anonymous No.9029329]

>>9029104

[Anonymous No.9029344]

>>9029316
>>9029316
It is why I don't bother sometimes. I don't blame the girls, I know that it is the other creepy guys that make them feel that way. Life is just unfair.

[Anonymous No.9029348]

How about brolitas who are skirt chasers?

[Anonymous No.9029353]

>>9029348
All brolitas are gay.

[Anonymous No.9029355]

>>9029316
>if any anon reading is in the 10-or-whatever-percent of straight men who both a) like lolita, and b) don't see lolita as inherently sexual, the thread isn't about you. the stereotype isn't fair, and it poses barriers for entry into the community, but that's just life and life isn't fair.

We are quite aware the stereotype isnt fair, but we still catch shit for it from Lolitas who see an adams apple and screech MAN-THINGS REEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.9029358]

>>9029344
it sucks because it can feel like:

>women are uncomfortable around you
>men treat you with contempt
>nobody will accept your fancy frills

>>9029348
pretty well covered ITT i would say, i think anons are including them with "fans of lolita."

[Anonymous No.9029366]

>>9029355
Can you honestly blame them? I've said I don't have a problem with the ones who don't but you can't like we're all liars making up things to spite the poor men. Literally no man I've ever met not into other fashions but is a fan of lolita hasn't been a huge creep.

If you wear some kind of j-fashion or even normie fashion you'll be fine. Hell guys in half-assed coords with beards get literally 100s of likes. If everyone hates you there's probably a reason.

[Anonymous No.9029368]

>>9029273
I love wearing fairy kei and I'm not into age play at all, but it does look a lot more like little girl clothes than lolita, I agree.

[Anonymous No.9029374]

>>9029366
Creepiness is warranted, baseless accusations on personal character are not.

[Anonymous No.9029378]

i just had a thought, also:

men who like lolita for nonsexual reasons are very likely in the closet about it and insecure because of the high probability of being shamed for it. the anxiety/insecurity means we magnify signs of rejection when we venture into the world of lolita, and we have more incentive to put it off (i waited years). women in lolita are more likely to encounter men who feel at ease sexualizing lolita because those men have incentive to seek out lolitas in the real world.

when you fear rejection, and don't have the fantasy of sexual gratification to guide you, you are probably more likely to stay in the shadows and over-interpret or take too closely to heart what female lolitas say and do, both to you and about men in general. for me, the issue was also a way to procrastinate gitting gud because i could always say "no one will accept me even if i try."

so, this nervousness skews perspectives all around.

[Anonymous No.9029381]

>>9029378
My SO likes it in a non lewd way because it looks "refined". I can assure you he isn't gay, so maybe rethink your statement?

[Anonymous No.9029383]

>>9029381
I am pretty sure he means they are in the closet about liking lolita, not liking guys, silly anon.

[Anonymous No.9029385]

>>9029374
Again being wary of a stranger isn't pointless, especially with such an obvious pattern. If they're doing it even after they've gotten to know you either you're a creep or you're in an entire comm full of judgmental bitches. I'll let you be the judge of which is which.

[Anonymous No.9029386]

>>9029381
did you mean to reply to someone else? i did not mention gayness in this post.

[Anonymous No.9029389]

>>9029385
Not in a comm, despite looking aint one around here, theyre all up in KC

[Anonymous No.9029393]

>>9029383
also this, yes. maybe using the closet metaphor was confusung. i mean that men who like lolita for nonsexual reasons have a lot of reasons to keep this hobby hidden from others, or to enjoy it from afar, whereas men who get erections over it have a really powerful reason to go out and get involved.

[Anonymous No.9029401]

>>9029393
>i mean that men who like lolita for nonsexual reasons have a lot of reasons to keep this hobby hidden from others

My wife pesters me about it if im on /cgl/. If my family found out it'd be a verbal massacre

[Anonymous No.9029408]

>>9029389
Then who is judging you? If it's strangers it's not you specifically it's making an educated guess based on statistics. My instant reaction is that someone who claims to like it is a creep, yet that was one of the first things my bf and I talked about and we've been together for 6 months. I don't have a problem with men into it who aren't creeps, but if you ask my general opinion I'll say most are.

[Anonymous No.9029412]

>>9029408
>I don't have a problem with men into it who aren't creeps, but if you ask my general opinion I'll say most are.

Ok.

[Anonymous No.9029422]

>>9029412
Most doesn't equal all. You still didn't answer my question and seem to have ignore the part where I have a bf into it. Honestly I think you'd be better off posting on tumblr if you're so offended by statistics and expect all strangers to immediately love you.

[Anonymous No.9029434]

>>9029422
I feel sorry for your boyfriend

[Anonymous No.9029436]

>>9029412
note that all it took for her to move her now-bf from the "most" who are creeps to the few who are not creeps was talking about it with him.

conversations and interaction are great ways to set yourself apart from the "most."

[Anonymous No.9029443]

>>9029434
Here's your last (you) from me.

[Anonymous No.9029449]

>>9029443
I'm not evem the other poster, but you hop scotch around between "everyone is fine" and "they're all perverts"

[Anonymous No.9029461]

>>9029449
ntayart but that is not what i see happening. i suspect you are misreading.

[Anonymous No.9029463]

>>9029436
Ya'll are getting someone else confused with me, which is also confusing me. Anyway, usually when I meet a Lolita at a con or something I just speak the correct vernacular and the coin drops on its own. I learned very quickly not to say
>You look cute in that
Because its like a submarine klaxon goes off somewhere

[Anonymous No.9029465]

>>9029436
>>9029449
It's not "most" it's literally every single man not into any other fashion that's talked to me. Not just being "creepy" or hinting about it. Word for word "it makes me hard", "it'd be so hot if you called me daddy", that I "have the perfect body for a little girl rp", and etc.

If you'd read you'd see I said men who *aren't* into fashion *at all* and say so but also say they love lolita. I've never had a problem with any of the boystylers or brolitas but those are people participating in the fashion. They aren't fans they're just as much a part of the community as lolitas.

I didn't say every man who doesn't wear it or have interest in any kind of fashion at all. I said literally every man *I* have *met irl* other than my bf has been.

[Anonymous No.9029470]

>>9029465
got it, thanks for the clarification.

[Anon's Sister No.9029471]

>>9029229
Have fun never knowing the joys of being kawaii.

[Anonymous No.9029473]

>>9029465
>It's not "most" it's literally every single man not into any other fashion that's talked to me. Not just being "creepy" or hinting about it. Word for word "it makes me hard", "it'd be so hot if you called me daddy", that I "have the perfect body for a little girl rp", and etc.

they ACTUALLY said that? To your face?!

[Anonymous No.9029479]

Bi guy here.
I've always been a fan of the style. I just think it's elegant and cute. I didn't realize it was a 'chaser' thing but most of the girls I've dated have been weeby lolita fans and I've often helped them when it came to setting up coords and whatnot. Not into daddy/whatever rp but it never even crossed my mind. I sew from time to time and am looking into trying lolita fashion. Does this come off as creepy? Should I just kill myself?

[Anonymous No.9029482]

>>9029473
welcome to the wonderful world of being female.

[Anonymous No.9029484]

>>9029473
Have you never interacted with weebs before? The ones that consider themselves dominants are especially bad.

>>9029479
Nah you're good. Preferences are fine, harassment and demanding to be let in comms to fap are not.

[Anonymous No.9029485]

>>9028682
I had guys come up to me saying that they like my coord and that I look cute/nice which is nice. I feel like most lolitas who complain about most men being creeps are ones who don't know how to interact with other well and use body language as another form of communication along with speech. It is also the same vise versa for a guy who likes the fashion but feels awkward talking about it with someone they just met.

Like yes there will always be that one creep who does want to get frilly with you in the sheets but the ones who like the fashion will like the fashion and idk why most lolitas get their panties in a bunch when it comes to sex and lolita. It's just sex and clothing in the end and nothing more after that imo.

[Anonymous No.9029486]

>>9029479
>Does this come off as creepy?
did you read the thread?

people will be suspicious but you can get past the initial suspicions of most by just being yourself.

[Anonymous No.9029488]

>>9029485
>I feel like most lolitas who complain about most men being creeps are ones who don't know how to interact with other well

>>9029465
>Not just being "creepy" or hinting about it. Word for word "it makes me hard", "it'd be so hot if you called me daddy", that I "have the perfect body for a little girl rp", and etc.

read the thread, we are discussing reality

[Anonymous No.9029491]

>>9029484
>Have you never interacted with weebs before? The ones that consider themselves dominants are especially bad.

Well yes but they act differently around me, being a "chad" looking fellow. It just blows my mind that they would just say THAT MAKES ME HAARRRDD right to your face. Its like coming up behind a guy and going I WONDER WHAT YOUR DICK SMELLS LIKE

[Anonymous No.9029494]

>>9029491
>It just blows my mind that they would just say THAT MAKES ME HAARRRDD right to your face.
this is what happens when men only interact with women via sexual fantasies like porn or hypersexual female avatars in video games. they don't see it as weird.

[Anonymous No.9029500]

>>9029473
Oops I forgot to add something. These kind of guys genuinely think everything women do is for men's sexual attention. If you're wearing what already looks like a costume to normies and cosplay to weebs it's going to be even worse.

>>9029491
Usually after some small talk. Also if you're a guy your experiences are going to be completely different, especially an "alpha" one. I'm 4'11 and scrawny, absolutely no one takes me seriously or thinks I'm any kind of threat.

>>9029485
This anon pretty much said it >>9029488

>>9029494
Pretty much what she said too. Anime especially seems to fuck up people's manners for some reason.

[Anonymous No.9029507]

>>9029494
>>9029500
Im fully aware of most problems that come with weebs (Personal SPACE, DAMN YOU), but ive never openly heard anything like this spoken. Fucking mind boggling

[Anonymous No.9029509]

>>9029500
>These kind of guys genuinely think everything women do is for men's sexual attention.
yes, and that ANYTHING feminine is sexual, which is why us guys into lolita get so much shit. women assume we are into it for sexual reasons because of statistics based on their experiences, men assume we must be gay because they can't comprehend enjoying anything feminine in a non-sexual way.

i had to break off a friendship because when the dude found out about my interest in androgyny he saw it as an open invitation to solicit sexual favors from me. i said it before, but for most straight men, the world is their sexual playground. for geeks who spend most of their time indulging in sexual fantasies, they absolutely cannot separate femininity from sex and don't see a problem with "complimenting" someone in feminine frills by saying, "i would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass just to get a sniff of what is beneath your petticoat."

[Anonymous No.9029513]

>>9029509
>"i would drag my balls through a mile of broken glass just to get a sniff of what is beneath your petticoat."

Fucking shot bourbon cola through my nose

[Anonymous No.9029517]

>>9029507
Guys don't do things like this with other guys immediately around them unless they know they'd do something similar. Especially not around any guy that looks even vaguely intimidating. That's why creepers usually try to corner you and take you out of public places. If you weren't paying attention it wouldn't look all that different than a normal conversation.

>>9029509
I'm guessing he was "straight" too?

[Anonymous No.9029518]

>>9029513
lol

i used to frequent /tv/ and they used to be fairly creative at describining the lengths they would go to in order to achieve sexual gratification from their television waifus. some things stick with you

[Anonymous No.9029522]

>>9029517
>I'm guessing he was "straight" too?
apparently only up until that particular point

[Anonymous No.9029523]

>>9029518
Still, my burning nostrils aside, it seems almost unbelievable in its outlandishness

[Anonymous No.9029535]

>>9029522
>Yah bro faggots are weird
>Wanna succ my dikk tho?

[Anon's Sister No.9029539]

I simply cannot believe the things people are claiming men have said to them. Online, yes I can believe it. I've had someone tell me to "grow up" because they called cosplay dress up because I rejected them (even though they acted soo interested in it). In fact people can be especially retarded online when it comes to basic human interaction.

But to someone's face, it seems rather far fetched.

[Anonymous No.9029546]

>>9029539
>Anon's Sister

Again have you never been to a convention or around weebs? Male or female they're both shit. Type up random weeb magnet series in youtube and you'll see tons of people who say this kind of stuff. These are delusion man-children, think chrischan/pamperchu type of people. They honestly think absolutely nothing is wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.9029549]

>>9029539
Just often enough, humans can be as retarded in irl as they are behind their screens.

[Anon's Sister No.9029569]

>>9029546
I've never seen it in action or have it happen to me, that's why it's hard to believe. And it is true, gender doesn't matter since women can sexually harass other women and so forth.

Aside from cat calls and dealing with people who have mental disabilities, it's just never been a face to face issue. For me anyways.

[Anonymous No.9029571]

>>9029569
>I've never seen it in action or have it happen to me, that's why it's hard to believe.
This is going to blow your mind but not everyone is exactly like you

[Anonymous No.9029574]

>>9029539
I dont know anon, ive been told some pretty awful things to my face when dressed up, not at a con though.

But some people are just awful online and in real life or have no filters. A lot of men seem to think that if you're dressed up that maybe youre easy? I dont get why but if im dressed in normie clothes I never get the awful things said to me, only when im dressed up (even just fancy normie clothing sometimes!)

[Anonymous No.9029575]

>>9029539
also, remember we are talking about a SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC of men, as outlined in the OP:

>Its LITERALLY every time I meet a guy who says they're "real big fans of Lolita Fashion".

not guys who think your coord is cute, or guys who compliment your outfit or whatever. we are discussing guys who call themselves fans of lolita fashion. this is a very narrow slice of the population, and for some reason most of those who identify themselves as "fans of lolita fashion" have few reservations about broadcasting their sexuality.

keep perspective.

[Anonymous No.9029577]

>>9029539
I know the Internet has spoiled us, but people being creepy shits offline has been a thing since forever and a day

[Anonymous No.9029589]

>>9029569
Did you ever think that maybe people don't have your exact experiences? I talked about mine and you're ofc free to talk about yours too, but saying I'm lying is as stupid as me saying you must be.

And again what >>9029575 said.

[Anonymous No.9029590]

>>9029574
>I dont get why but if im dressed in normie clothes I never get the awful things said to me, only when im dressed up (even just fancy normie clothing sometimes!)
because of the cultural meme that femininity=sexuality. for many men, it doesn't have to be traditionally sexy (as in revealing, form-fitting, flashy, whatever). if it is making a noted effort to be feminine, it is potentially available to gratify them.

(this is why sissies can get off despite looking like shit. just having or wearing symbols of femininity is enough to excite them, it doesn't have to look good.)

[Anon's Sister No.9029605]

>>9029571
I could have worded that better. What I mean is it's just so stupid that it's hard to believe. It's not an impossibility, but hard to believe.

[Anon's Sister No.9029610]

>>9029589
I never called you a liar.

[Anonymous No.9029611]

>>9029590
Sadly more and more this seems to be pretty true for a good majority of people, even females do it (although I normally only see them doing it not face to face, more that they keep their thoughts to their group of friends and just talk in the comfort of their group)

But I agree most men I meet tend to view anything thats extra feminine as catering to them. I've seriously met men that can not wrap their head around the fact that a woman could want to dress up to look pretty to herself or with her friends and not to hook up with a man.

[Anonymous No.9029615]

>>9029605
>What I mean is it's just so stupid that it's hard to believe.
oh my sweet summer child

may your life remain innocent for some time to come

[Anonymous No.9029616]

>>9029610
>I simply cannot believe the things people are claiming men have said to them.
>I simply cannot believe
>claiming

If that really wasn't what you meant you need to work on your phrasing.

[Anon's Sister No.9029630]

>>9029616
It's like bad weather on a parade and someone says "I can't believe the weather today." Calm down.

[Anonymous No.9029638]

>>9029630
I am calm, I'm saying why it sounded like you were saying people were lying. Disagreeing doesn't mean you're angry. At least not when I'm doing it.

[Anonymous No.9029643]

>>9029630
>Calm down.
not that anon but you don't need to be upset to point out why the way someone writes makes them sound a certain way. it seems a common issue for you to be misunderstood here, so be more mindful of your phrasing.

[Anonymous No.9029801]

>>9028729
>Down and Silly with the frilly.
I love you.

[Anonymous No.9029818]

>>9029801
>>Down and Silly with the frilly.

[Anonymous No.9029831]

>>9029615
Lolitas are just too pure looking, which a nice Lolita themed halberd or punching dagger may fix...

>All it takes is a Narutard taking a knife to the neck, no more Coord Cutters

[Anonymous No.9029839]

where do you find a cute lolita?
I want one to laugh at BtB and drama with and scathingly critique other girls' coords so I can experience the hobby vicariously.

also lolita fashion may be cute but it is really unsexy...

[Anonymous No.9029848]

I've never had more people mistake me for being a LG who wants some "Daddy" more than I have after getting into j-fashion. If you're both a lolita and into things like larme or fairy-kei, people just assume a lot about you.

[Anon's Sister No.9029861]

>>9029848
>people just assume a lot about you.
Honestly, as cute as I find sweet lolita, I'd mistake it for ageplay quite easily if I knew nothing about it.

Reminds me of some fashion show in which one of the contestants went for a lolita type look and the hosts bashed her hard because they didn't understand what she was going for. Their idea of attractive went along the lines of >>9029590

[Anonymous No.9029863]

>>9029848
Only Daddy I wanna be is a sugar daddy, so we can both squee over dresses

[Anonymous No.9029930]

>>9029801
Fuck off he's taken

[Anonymous No.9030019]

>>9029863
bro,I like certain prints and cuts as much as the next guy but.....nigga who the fuck squeees

the only good "daddy" is the one that hates your hobbies and you call once every few months to see if he's still alive
>>9029930
Shhhh....your boyfrando is safe from thristy/salty gulls

[Anonymous No.9030020]

Anyone else curious on what the guys look like?

[Anonymous No.9030024]

>>9030020
/r9k/ please

[Anonymous No.9030033]

>>9030024
Just saying... they may be from /fit/ or something for all we know

[Anonymous No.9030046]

>>9030020
From my own personal experience none of the men that have said shit to my face like what people in this thread are saying were ever ugly. Some were kinda "meh" looking but they werent like neckbeards or anything. They usually all dressed well enough for normies and had nice hygiene and all, but no good looks is going to make me swoon for you when you ask if I want to do ddlg or partake in "golden showers" or any of your fetishes that shouldnt be thrown in someones face as first time conversation

[Anonymous No.9030050]

>>9030033
>/fit/ isn't basically /r9k/ but with an even bigger inferiority complex that they have to screech they work out every 15 seconds

[Anonymous No.9030051]

>>9030020
>>9030033
not from /fit/ just a fag chad that dresses in jfash.
aint postin' shit

[Anonymous No.9030052]

>>9030020
>>/r9k/

[Anonymous No.9030057]

>>9029569
lol found the fattty
ive even had guys come up and touch my dresses and had to get mad for them to leave me alone

[Anonymous No.9030061]

>>9030020
Like this

[Anonymous No.9030069]

>>9030061
They probably mean the creeps people in the thread are talking about. Most likely to turn it into "you would like it if Chad did it/he were 6'4/a bodybuilder".

[Anonymous No.9030070]

>>9030061
Or this if they try hard enough.

[Anonymous No.9030077]

>>9030070
And sometimes you get this.

[Anonymous No.9030081]

>>9029839
That's what my bf says. He likes the dresses, on me. He likes to indulge the drama, vicariously through me.
And he thinks it's unsexy.
I find it funny desu.

[Anonymous No.9030103]

>>9030020
>want to post self
>know i'll catch shit for it

[Anon's Sister No.9030109]

>>9030057
>had to get mad for them to leave me alone
Are you trying to prove something or is this some kind of abstract bait?
>fatty
Yes I'm sure you know exactly what I look like. Because people only have 2 body types. Fat and not fat.

[Anonymous No.9030114]

>>9030109
That post just went completely over your head.

[Anonymous No.9030116]

>>9028782
pretty much this. no brainer

[Anonymous No.9030125]

>>9029199
the ignorance of the average person. they know nothing about kinks. they think pedos are attracted to grown women in dresses. they think lolita is little girl age roleplay, despite the main aspect of it ish tawking wike a wittle girlie andw maybwe wewing a dwiprer.

[Anonymous No.9030129]

>>9030125
While that may be true we're specifically talking about the guys into both ageplay/ddlg and lolita and making it very well known to everyone around them.

Also for someone complaining about misinformed people that's not an accurate description of ageplay at all.

[Anon's Sister No.9030136]

>>9030114
You're right. If there was a joke I honestly dont get it and I dont understand their point.

[Anonymous No.9030145]

>>9030129
im not an age player, i dont fucking know, but its still more accurate than what normies think.

[Anonymous No.9030151]

>>9030145
Closer sure, but that's not exactly hard.

[Anonymous No.9030176]

>>9028903
Wait, are you talking about that short dude that all the thirsty ones on COF would start drooling over/making the overtly sexual comments to, or are you talking about that random tard who would go in and creep on peoples' posts like he knew what he was talking about?

[Anonymous No.9030253]

>>9030176
the latter most likely. the guy people drooled over was not in the army to my knowledge

[Anonymous No.9030322]

>>9029539
You sound really young and sheltered.

[Anonymous No.9030453]

>>9030020
The ones that have approached me were actually rather average or even good looking. I've never been approached by a greasy neckbeard, but then again I don't often attend events where these types conglomerate.
Being good looking doesn't excuse making creepy sexual comments to a woman you only met three seconds ago, though. Maybe they've been able to get away with it more at parties or something so now they think they can pull it off in regular public spaces as well?

Most recent one, not the most disgusting I've had but definitely inappropriate as hell:
>approached by guy while waiting for the train
>hey I like what you're wearing, it's really cute
>thanks!
>how do you have sex in it though? Like can you just lift it up?

[Anonymous No.9030466]

>>9030020
The only guy that did creepy shit to me that was actually unattractive was a guy that told me he wanted to kidnap me when I was 13. Otherwise all the overtly creepy dudes have been average or above average.

[Anonymous No.9030471]

I have quite the large friend who has a complimentary issue. She has quite the problem with fat fetish people. (She had a name for it, but I forget what she called them.) Men quite regularly approach her and say the most disgusting things related to their fetish like, "I'd love to take you out and watch you eat."

Unfortunately, the same thing is happening to you but in a different fetish. Most daddy/sissy fetishes involve dressing women (or men) in frilly pink outfits. Lolita for them being about a high level of sexual desire.

In normal men, I don't think Lolita brings about strong sexual desire. It's not exactly the type of dress that has men catcalling like a short mini skirt and crop top would bring about. If anything, you are just a pretty woman in a fancy but modest dress.

Unfortunately, daddy/sissy fetish people see it as a sexualized version of the imitation of a little girl. They really think you are wearing that dress for no reason then to appeal to their pleasures. They really think you are going to say, "Oh yes, I'd love to pretend you are my daddy and sex you up."

Just like my friend has men who really think she'll say, "Oh, I'm really going to gorge my face in chocolate cake while you masturbate naked tableside."

I guess what I'm saying is 90% of fans aren't skirt chasers, its just a fashion that happened to attract a strange subset of people. A lot of daddy/sissy porn and underage hentai feature girls in frilly outfits.

[Anonymous No.9030477]

>>9029569
But I enjoy cat calls. :(

[Anonymous No.9030482]

Now for those wondering why exactly Lolita attracts sissy/daddy fetish people.

This is a photo of what those people wear, what they have been wearing for years and years to get sexy in. To them, your brand looks like a really high quality sissy outfit. To then, Lolita is sissy fashion without the terrible satin.

It should be easy to see why they find Lolita attractive.

[Anonymous No.9030485]

Here's another example then I won't post anymore monster dresses. Most sissy clothing looks like an 'ita' dress on hyperdrive. The lace, the petticoats, the structure...

It's an unfortunate coincidence.

[Anonymous No.9030520]

>>9029539

Its a retarded minority in my opinion. But this is a guys opinion so take it with a grain of salt.

Also i don't generally hang out with places where douchebags gather, but i would guess that if you go trough a large city in full lolita wear, you will attract a few douchebags as you will tend to stand out.

You need to kinda realize that you will attract a few douches if you are standing out enough(that goes for anything not just lolita), and lolita definitely stands out.

[Anonymous No.9030525]

>>9030471

Here is the thing. Turning people like that down is the least issue, usually they just let it go if you say you are not into such things, unless they are a really pushy creep.

I have no idea how else they would find someone who is into the same fetish than they are. Even nowadays not everyone is as well versed in the internet as the younger generations. So just asking feels normal to them. Remember the saying? It never hurts to ask.

I'm way to shy to converse about my fetishes or sex life with anyone i don't know tough so whatever, unless i downed a few drinks with that person and the other party initiates the theme.

[Anonymous No.9030530]

Clothes/fashion is only for making youRself more bearable to your mate, pull your head out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.9030535]

>>9030525
>what is fetlife

[Anonymous No.9030569]

>>9028682
I'm a straight male fan of lolita/brolita, and the reason for the existance dumbasses who associate it with little girl pedo fetish shit is because they dont understand its origins. I got into it through visual kei personally so I dont have that problem, ive done my research. Just honestly walk away from anyone who tried to sexualize a fashion.

[Anonymous No.9030578]

>>9030530
silence thyself fool and begone from this thread

[Anonymous No.9030591]

>>9030530
Nice bait.