Unpopular Opinions Thread!

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Unpopular Opinions Thread! Anonymous Thu Dec 8 21:49:59 2016 No.9281889 [Reply] [Original]

I'll start.

I actually like the newer AP releases. I don't have much interest in chasing the older stuff anymore like when I first got into lolita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:16:51 2016 No.9281967 I'm okay with unnatural hair colors in lolita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:20:35 2016 No.9281975 I actually really like Kawaii Goods.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:20:50 2016 No.9281976 I'm fine with people smoking in brand, even if it's around me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:22:06 2016 No.9281979 File: 45 KB, 540x720, 13592840_10206234812541513_1849403266259195979_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9281976 Do you mean cigarettes or weed?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:22:10 2016 No.9281980 I don't care if you want to make a goddamn grocery bag out of your burando. It's your dress. It does not belong to the community. That "she ruined MY dress" mentality is one of the most bizarre things about lolita.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:22:22 2016 No.9281983

>Clean, styled natural hair almost always looks better than a wig when it comes to lolita
>Big old veils look dumb
>OTT lolita never looks good and always looks like a tryhard, tacky clusterfuck
>Larme hair styles look like shit with lolita
>There's a reason brands don't make bigger sizes and it's because the fashion looks bad on whales

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:23:00 2016 No.9281984 >>9281979 Cigarettes. Weed is disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:23:42 2016 No.9281986 I don't like bonnets in lolita

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:24:06 2016 No.9281987 File: 131 KB, 636x1019, RepentSinner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9281984 u nasty

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:26:27 2016 No.9281993 >>9281979 Is that a kitty paw oil rig? cause geez that's cute My unpopular opinion is that I'm fine with people smoking weed around me but if you light up a cigarette around my brand prepare for death you nasty fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:28:05 2016 No.9281996 File: 990 KB, 1276x1920, holy lantern in light blue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9281986 Me either. There are very few coords where they look okay in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:29:54 2016 No.9281998 >>9281993 >Is that a kitty paw oil rig? It is! That person makes all kinds of kawaii rigs. >>9281984 What country are you in? I like knowing what kind of demographics hate weed still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:31:05 2016 No.9282001 I like when people expirament with unconventional colors and pieces in Lolita. It feels refreshing to see someone try something new. I also don't like weed or cigarettes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:35:30 2016 No.9282022 File: 373 KB, 600x855, this is cute af.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282001 did you agree on this coord that it's actually good and is experimenting with colors?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:37:16 2016 No.9282028 >>9282022 Different anon but I really like this. I feel like with experimental things they have to really get the "not-experiemental bits" (like hair/makeup here) perfectly spot on or it'd look like a hot mess.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:41:11 2016 No.9282036

>>9281993
This is how I feel. I've severely allergic to cigarette smoke and just smelling the scent will make it hard for me to breathe, but weed smells and smoke don't bother me at all. Also weed smoke doesn't cling to and stain things like cigarette smoke.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:45:28 2016 No.9282047

I really don't like angelic pretty and never have. Never understood the appeal of the brand to lolitas and why people would sell kidneys just to get something from them.

I also stay away from angelic pretty warshipers as they tend to be the most obnoxious people at meets. Constantly displaying the "look at me I'm a princess" attitude is disgusting .

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:46:30 2016 No.9282051 >>9281983 Thiiiiis

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:47:19 2016 No.9282053 >>9282047 >warshipers uhh

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:51:25 2016 No.9282064 >>9282051 Those aren't really unpopular for cgl.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:55:39 2016 No.9282071

I love most BTSSB lace monsters and wedding dresses

I prefer nicely styled natural hair in lolita when possible

I love toy prints (including dreamy baby room)

I don't really mind when pinks don't match on other people

I hate those lacy under-the-knee socks that everybody seems to have, don't have a picture but someone may know what I'm talking about. They make most people look stumpy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:56:07 2016 No.9282072 >>9281986 Oh, ditto. But I absolutely haaate bonnets with sweet especially. I feel like nine times out of ten, it looks infantile. I dunno.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:23:25 2016 No.9282132 >>9282072 Agreed. I'm sweet, but whenever I see a sweet coord with a bonnet (ESPECIALLY with a toy print) I cringe a little. Gives off ageplay vibes

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:29:35 2016 No.9282154 >>9281984 >thinking weed is nastier than cigarettes lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:30:23 2016 No.9282156 Lolita "lifestyle" jobs like working in a cafe or a tea house are just waitress gigs and I think they're trashy. I get embarrassed hearing grown women talk about serving coffee like it's their dream job.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:30:30 2016 No.9282157 I actually like LovelyLor. I think she's a little cringy sometimes, but I also admire how accessible her style is, and I think she's a good role model for beginner lolitas. I also think she seems like a genuinely nice and funny person.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:30:53 2016 No.9282159 >>9282053 No no, this is good, I like it, keep it. AP warshipers.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:33:13 2016 No.9282168

>>9282156
yeah my night job is waitressing, it's not glam. Though to be fair, it would be so much more chill and cute working at a tea house, but those are never bumping, no matter what the prices on the menu are.

Unrelated, I just had the most fucked up capcha of connect the dots, what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:35:53 2016 No.9282178 >>9282156 My only defense for this is they could be making a fuck ton in tips. I'm seriously considering going back to it cause I made more in tips than at a fucking desk job...

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:36:07 2016 No.9282180

I think flat tea party shoes, in any color or style, look dumb and infantile in a coord. I don't mind other flat lolita shoes, like those strappy jane marple boots, or RHS, but tea party shoes just look like they are for age play, and ruin the elegance of an outfit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:36:24 2016 No.9282182 >>9282053 angelic pretty x kancolle collab when

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:37:08 2016 No.9282185 File: 276 KB, 500x385, yue feels bad man all these feels.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282180 someone finally fucking said it, I feel so validated

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:38:31 2016 No.9282192 I actually dislike comm culture. Maybe it's because my comm is exceptionally terrible, but I prefer making lolita friends through online interaction, and having irl friends be non-lolita but accepting of the fashion.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:39:11 2016 No.9282196

>>9282154
I mean, where I live people really like both. I actually like the smell of cigarettes and wouldn't care if someone was smoking next to me in brand as long as they didn't get any ashes on me. I used smoke them but I stopped because they had a weird effect of making me hungry, like even if I just ate.

Weed on the other hand doesn't do that to me because I mostly smoke sativas and I used to smoke in my brand all the time but quit recently to pass a drug test.

sage for off topic.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:40:18 2016 No.9282200

I feel like /cgl/ is way too anal about natural hair and colors matching exactly. Also I hate the navy and black meme.

Weed and vaping is totally fine, cigs are OK too just be considerate and don't smoke around non-smokers. I don't like the attitude here that assumes everyone will be reselling their clothes. I will do what I want with my burando.

I also agree with the OP that new brand releases are more fun than chasing old meme dresses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:40:20 2016 No.9282201 >>9282047 Worshipers not warshipers. yes I can't spell. I also don't know warshipers was a word so autocorrect didn't catch it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:40:35 2016 No.9282202 >>9282168 I worked at a tea house and it sucked. Not easy work. Protip: don't work for Chinese people if you're not Asian.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:42:46 2016 No.9282212 >>9282180 I don't like them personally, but I also don't expect sweet lolita to look elegant. That's not the aim most of the time so

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:42:53 2016 No.9282213 >>9282156 Some people find customer service really rewarding, money is not everything

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:43:26 2016 No.9282215 >>9282200 Oh, the navy and black meme, how I hate you. I think the navy and black haters would have a stroke if they ever ventured into the nanchette threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:45:52 2016 No.9282223 I don't like tea, it just tastes like hot leaf water. I don't like tea party shoes. They are cute but look like baby shoes and I would never wear them. I don't hate furries. I don't like most prints.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:46:08 2016 No.9282224 >>9282201 mobile posting is pretty much a language barrier. Stop being butthurt about it and laugh because it was actually an amusing typo. Everyone else was having fun with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:47:49 2016 No.9282232 >>9282196 I can understand people disliking the smell of weed smoke I only have the hang up on cigarettes bc the smell lingers so intensely, my bff smokes and my normalfag clothes/hair smells so bad, even when she smokes oustide

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:48:22 2016 No.9282236 File: 414 KB, 1132x1225, wicked.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282200 You sound pretty chill, anon. I'm surprised gulls like you exist. maybe I'm not the only one after all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:48:27 2016 No.9282237 >>9282224 Okay I wanted to correct my mistake even if it was funny. Got a problem With that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:48:52 2016 No.9282238 >>9282202 no fucking shit, Chinese bosses are fucking cruel

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:49:51 2016 No.9282243 >>9282180 Amen.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:51:00 2016 No.9282246
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>>9282213
I laughed for 5 minutes

No one finds customer service rewarding, except maybe the bored housewife in her 50's who has a rich husband and has nothing better to do with her time

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:51:20 2016 No.9282248 File: 56 KB, 446x400, laughing lolis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282237 >Got a problem >With that? just put your phone down already, damn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:52:02 2016 No.9282252 >>9282237 I just have a problem with your shitty mobile posting desu

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:52:30 2016 No.9282254

>>9282246
Uh, face to face customer service is a totally different ballgame than over the phone customer service.

over the phone stuff was really fun for me. Plus if it gets out of control for some reason, you can just tell the person you have to disconnect because they can't keep it together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:54:55 2016 No.9282264 >>9282237 >got a problem >With that? Bless you anon. I needed a good laugh.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:55:32 2016 No.9282266

>>9282192
>I actually dislike comm culture.
I'm actually in a really decent accepting comm and I feel like the girls there want to be friends with me but... I don't care for it. I don't have anything in common with anyone there and it's like they all just pay to hang out with each other? Plus no one ever wants to talk about the dresses it seems. I've brought up stuff a few times and only had one success with a girl who was very broken english and she was cute but I don't know how to be friends with someone where lots of things just get lost in translation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:56:01 2016 No.9282267 >>9282248 >>9282237 I think you need some midol because you may be starting your period. Why so salty over a spelling fix?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:56:06 2016 No.9282268 >>9282254 No one was even talking about phone customer service.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:56:25 2016 No.9282270

>>9282022
I liked this too, it's a tacky-ass dress to start with and I think it'd look worse if you tried to coordinate it in a matching, tasteful way.

>>9282071
>I don't really mind when pinks don't match on other people
I actually kind of like coords which are all-pink but where dimension is added by having a bunch of different shades rather than just one or two.

>>9282157
Not even a sweet lolita and I agree. The hate she gets for her appearance is out of all proportion to her (completely fine and basically average) looks. The way some gulls talk about her you'd think she was deformed, I don't get it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:57:24 2016 No.9282275

>>9282254
I'd love to know what phone job you are working at, every call center I know you'll get in a lot of trouble for disconnecting or hanging up on difficult customers

>mfw this old woman called me the devil bc I wouldn't waive her cell phone charges
>would make people cry daily working for call center with fedex because I had to explain their packages weren't going to make it in time
>didn't understand I wasn't fedex, just a person sitting in a call center, no actual control over the mail
>felt like my soul was being sucked out

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:06:31 2016 No.9282291

>>9282268
I get that. I'm saying in my experience, over the phone was better than face to face.

>>9282275
I'm a dispatcher. I talk to some rowdy people sometimes. I also have a friend that worked for apple at one of their xerox call centers and he said he rarely had angry folks on the phone but I guess his coworkers were asshats so he walked out one day.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:08:02 2016 No.9282294

>>9282275
Oh man I worked for Sony call center in the video game department and had to deal with the PS4 launch fiasco. People claiming they received a broken console and couldn't give us a proper serial number to back up their claim. Then had one idiot put a Xboxone game into the console and couldn't figure out why the game was playing.

Here was the conversation if I recall:
>them: "hello my PS4 won't play my game. I think it's defective"
>me: "okay what the serial number of your console?"
>they give me a valid number
>"and what game was it you where trying to play?"
>" uh titanfall"
> I mute my mic and start laughing
>"sir that's a Xbox game. PlayStation can't play it"
> "aren't the consoles cross platform?"
>"no sir."
> "but they both have the same software to stream"
>" yes but they are not cross play"
>" how do you know? You're a girl. I bet you don't know what the difference is in the consoles and are talking out your ass"
> "sir, I'm not the one that tried to put an xbox one game into a PS4"
>he hangs up. I tell my boss and we laugh about it for months.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:14:25 2016 No.9282299
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>>9282200
>colors matching exactly
man, this coord is cute, and I KNOW it's cute.
but the cgl in me wants to look at her socks and go "ugh, they are a shade off and they look pink instead of white and don't go with the rest of the coord!! AND WHY IS SHE WEARING WINGS FUCKING COSPLAYER UGH IF THIS WAS A WHITE GIRL SHE'D BE IN THE ITA THREAD REEEE"

but I hold that shit in cause she's fucking adorable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:16:13 2016 No.9282301 >>9282299 >they are a shade off and they look pink instead of white they look pink instead of white because they ARE fucking pink instead of white, anon. It's literally a different color.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:23:05 2016 No.9282305 >>9282301 yeah but in the coord they should be white but instead they are pink. Thanks for confirming the thing that I hate. She's still cute as fuck btw.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:24:55 2016 No.9282311

>>9282156

.....this is lolita lifestyle job now? I always thought the perfect lolita lifestyle "job" would be more like being a trust fund baby (or having a rich hubby, whichever works), travelling the world attending tea parties, hiring a photographer to follow you around so your tumblr shots are always good, and getting a brand new dress set from every major brand every month.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:28:17 2016 No.9282314 [DELETED]

Fatties over an 80cm waist will never look good in lolita no matter how hard they try to ~flatter their curves~ or whatever
If your bust is >100cm you're not busty anymore, you're just fat and will look like shit with your boobloaf
Brands make clothes to fit thinner frames because that's what the clothes look good on
Fatties get so bitter about the truth and explode whenever someone criticizes their weight as being the worst factor of their clothes. Obesity is ita af

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:30:48 2016 No.9282317 >>9282200 I am so sick of the 'all colours must match' mentality One day someones going to post a Shiro coord and get torn to shreds for not matching their whites

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:32:09 2016 No.9282319 >>9282317 one day? that shit has happened since daily_lolita

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:32:31 2016 No.9282320 >>9282223 Tea parties look like clown shoes on essentially everyone, I think it's because they raise and round the toe area

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:33:14 2016 No.9282321 >>9282299 Yeah, your cgl senses are tingling because this looks gross. If I saw this in person, I'd struggle to not make a disgusted face or laugh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:35:11 2016 No.9282323 >>9282321 >Yeah, your cgl senses are tingling because this looks gross but having them at all is not good. people only act this way on this board.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:35:48 2016 No.9282324

>>9282299
>>9282305

......uh, thanks for confirming your colour blindness, I guess?

I mean, there's pink embroidery on her dress that matches her socks exactly, and her plushie is wear the same matching pink, too. So yeah, I agree her coord is cute ...because her pink socks are not not matching...?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:36:13 2016 No.9282325 >>9282314 This is a popular cgl opinon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:37:30 2016 No.9282328 >>9282157 Same. Don't think there has ever been any drama with her, she only gets hate because she is "ugly" and still became popular. She does seem nice and she is relatable to most girls since she isn't perfectly "kawaii" looking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:37:46 2016 No.9282329 >>9282319 All the getoffegl drama I remember was just about fat shaming. I guess the color coordinating stuff never actually made it to stupidfree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:38:48 2016 No.9282332 >>9282324 I'm not though. I can see that they are pink. I have always noticed. I just don't think it hurts the coord that much. I think only people here on this board get their panties in a twist over shit like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:40:31 2016 No.9282335 Taobao models are prettier than Kera models. The princess lace-sack look that's been popular with baby and ap in recent years looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:43:11 2016 No.9282338 >>9282332 The way you typed it made it sound like you thought they were white that looked a bit pink. Stop getting mad people misunderstood you. You're the one with panties in a twist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:46:27 2016 No.9282342 >>9282338 I think the reason she used them is because they are such a light pink she thought she could pass them off as matching. also way to go with typical "nah, ur the one who is mad"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:46:50 2016 No.9282344 >>9282168 capcha is getting more creative. I had some selection tool one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:48:16 2016 No.9282345 >>9282328 I don't think she's ugly just looks like she hasn't slept in years which makes her look quite concerning. What I don't like is how she pushes her YouTube on people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:50:07 2016 No.9282350 >>9281984 Both are pretty disgusting imo. Then again, weed makes me nauseous so I may be biased.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:50:52 2016 No.9282351

>>9282342

Maybe it's differences between our monitors, maybe it's because I know what those socks look like irl bu. those socks do not look like a light-enough-to-possibly-be-pink-tinted-white pink. They're straight up pink. She'd have to be colorblind to think they're pale enough to look white.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:57:55 2016 No.9282356 >>9282022 I feel like that blouse would be better if it wasn't for the washed out pastels. But the colours together are great

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:59:32 2016 No.9282358

>>9282351
>Maybe it's differences between our monitors
I've said this a million times in CoF threads because the amount of people trying to guess shades through monitors is astounding.

Everyone's monitor is calibrated slightly different. WYSIWYG applies to printers. Not monitors. Unless you've seen the coord in person, there's no reason to speak about whether the colors match, hence the mass amounts of frustration behind people arguing about it non stop.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:02:47 2016 No.9282361 >>9282358 But what else are we supposed to bitch about when we are jelly? Don't be a party pooper and just let us be the salty cunts we are. It's like therapy so we don't have to cut a bitch for sneezing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:06:20 2016 No.9282363 >>9282361 What makes you think I don't come here to do the same? Not my fault everyone here is an unoriginal fuckhead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:07:51 2016 No.9282366 File: 107 KB, 588x800, 1471827210688.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282361 Why are you jealous anyway? Are you actually inferior?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:10:51 2016 No.9282369 >>9282325 You say that but every time someone has a problem with a whale's ill-fitting coord the other whales here sweep in to defend their bullshit. It feels like /cgl/ has gotten weirdly accepting of boobloaf too.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:13:56 2016 No.9282375

>>9282275
Call center jobs are fucking hellish. I worked for Disney's call center and pretty much quit almost imemdiately after training because the job itself sucked so much.

btw Floridafags if you ever see an opening at the Disney call center it's worth it just to go and quit after training desu. You get a lot of cool freebies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:14:58 2016 No.9282376 >>9282369 All the more reason to just drop it. It's always going to be the same back n forth. Like do you seriously think you're going to get anything new out of this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:15:56 2016 No.9282379 >>9282236 that piece is so beautiful but looks like it'd tip over and shatter into a million pieces if I looked at it for too long sage for ot

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:18:56 2016 No.9282383 If you can wear brand you're not 'plus sized'

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:28:21 2016 No.9282392

Cgl is not a hugbox but it's also not the salty spatoon that it's made out to be either
Cgl can give good basic advice but after that a lot of it is personal taste. Come for the foundation leave for experimentation
Lolitas seem to not grasp the concept of body diversity even with the same measurements.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:29:51 2016 No.9282394

>>9282379
Yeah, I've seen a lot of pieces like that. There's a glass shop here in town that makes all kinds of intricate pieces that are like $5000+ but I think it's no different from lolita in that you are buying something worth a lot of money that you then have to spend money to take care of. You wouldn't be reckless with CTP like you wouldn't be reckless with that piece if you were gonna smoke out of it. ie, don't smoke so much kief you can't pass without dropping something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:30:35 2016 No.9282396 >>9282314 >tfw 77cm waist 100cm bust wew >>9282383 Technically most people can "wear" brand, but properly fitting it is another story.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:30:36 2016 No.9282397 I like sack dresses

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:31:09 2016 No.9282399 >>9281996 >There are very few coords where they look okay in my opinion. And that certainly isn't one of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:33:59 2016 No.9282404 >>9282366 My jelly comes from when someone outbids me for something and then wears it with converse and a mini top hat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:36:10 2016 No.9282405 >>9282342 Even if they were white, they wouldn't match at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:37:57 2016 No.9282407 >>9282404 lol, sorry you're poor?

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:39:57 2016 No.9282410

>>9282405
You mean because of the pattern. If she switched out the socks entirely, for a white pair.. it would just be boring. She's fine the way she is. She made it into a fucking street snap.

You guys always crying over what the street fashion actually is... just... why do you even like the fucking fashion if you disagree with the people who are making it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:41:31 2016 No.9282412 File: 95 KB, 595x394, 1474839385603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282396 You heard anon. Never look good. No exceptions. How dare you just naturally have 100cm boobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:43:18 2016 No.9282414 File: 944 KB, 986x596, AP celestial cutsew.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282397 me too. and I have boobs. someone here is grinding their teeth over that I'm sure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:44:28 2016 No.9282415 >>9282399 are you sure your bias isn't showing? When that was originally posted here in a CoF thread it got a lot of praise. It's a good halloween coord and I don't even like bonnets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:50:25 2016 No.9282426 >>9282396 77 cm waist is still pretty fucking huge, like literally your waist is nearly as big as my fucking tits

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:54:42 2016 No.9282436 >>9282407 Yes poor correlates with jelly because someone fucked up a dress you tried to buy. Flawless logic anon. Bravo.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:54:42 2016 No.9282437

>>9282426
Sorry for your loss itty bitty titty committee
>inb4 landwhale
>inb4 fatty
You'll need an actual explanation for why a reasonable waist size of 77cm is huge not just your lolcow bullshit. Otherwise it just tells me you're foaming at the mouth to get a reaction :^)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:56:30 2016 No.9282443 >>9281984 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:57:58 2016 No.9282446 >>9282437 because anon is probably 103cm and trying to sound like a skinny bitch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:58:10 2016 No.9282448 >>9282414 i love the ap cutsew dresses too

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:58:33 2016 No.9282449 >>9282436 Did you follow that conversation at all? They said that's why they were jelly...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:59:41 2016 No.9282452 >>9282443 thank you for the thread bump lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:00:07 2016 No.9282456 File: 19 KB, 558x402, img.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282426 At the end of the day at least it's defined and I have a healthy waist-hip ratio. RIP apple shapes If it's of any consolation I've been losing weight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:09:08 2016 No.9282474 >>9282426 lol i hate to break it to you but you just have tiny tits then

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:13:03 2016 No.9282481 File: 734 KB, 1280x1531, tumblr_o9jqfwYuEI1sdq62go1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282474 that's pretty coveted in lolita though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:17:04 2016 No.9282485 >>9282452 And yet you do the same thing without contributing. >>9282426 I have a feeling you are the AMA going on right now and trying to get reactions as usual.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:21:38 2016 No.9282494 >>9282485 I was bumping because I'm trying to get the AMA off the front page. Please help and report. I know mods are asleep but come the fuck on.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:31:33 2016 No.9282511

>>9282494
I always report the AMA but the janitors need to get some people that will be up at this time to keep the boards cleaned up.

But at least contribute something like saying " I don't like galaxy prints" keep your post relevant.

Btw I think Galaxy prints are stupid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:33:28 2016 No.9282515 >>9281889 Same, I love the crosses!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:33:56 2016 No.9282518 >>9281986 I feel like bonnets look better in gothic lolita than sweet or classic lolita anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:39:15 2016 No.9282529 >>9282156 My first job was being a barista. I fucking hated it because of the bitchy customers I'd always get. If people consider that ~glamorous~, then try serving a 7 am rush.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:43:42 2016 No.9282540 We really need to come up with something other than just calling eachother fat. It's getting so old

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:53:53 2016 No.9282560

I don't get why people hate flats in lolita so much. As long as they're decent quality and they match the coord, I don't see why people shouldn't wear them.

I've been more excited for Taobao/indie releases than brand releases. AP, BTSSB, and AATP have not been catching my eye at all with prints for the past several months.

I believe fandom prints can be coordinated well if treated like a regular print. The reason why most fandom coords fail imo is because people go overboard on making their coord theme strictly fandom-based because "guise I have a Doctor Who skirt therefore I'm going to wear an entire TARDIS on my head!!!1"

I like browsing /cgl/'s CoF feed a lot more than FB's CoF feed. There's so much hugboxing and asspatting on FB's feed that it'll make me physically sick sometimes. On /cgl/, I don't get as much of that bias.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:57:37 2016 No.9282564 >>9282412 To be slim with a 77cm waist she'd need to be really fucking tall, so I'd be surprised if that anon looked good in most brand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 02:58:58 2016 No.9282566 >>9282437 77cm isn't landwhalishly obese but it's definitely on the chubby side.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:12:25 2016 No.9282584

>>9282511
I think people here actually like her. It's just unfair that no one else can get that kind of attention. You'll get torn a new one for posting your insta in a social media thread, but she gets her own personal ama?

People here are hypocrites. That's all I can chalk it up to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:17:34 2016 No.9282599 >>9282394 I'm just a huge klutz and always have been since I was a kid. I had to get a really thick heavy duty piece because I kept breaking pieces, usually while sober. feels bad man

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:25:07 2016 No.9282615 >>9282156 This is no way a lifestyle ideal. It's stressful and messy. That said, I find waitressing to be very rewarding. It's almost like a game to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:27:19 2016 No.9282622 >>9282246 I'm glad I could brighten your day

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:32:47 2016 No.9282632 >>9282311 That's... not a job "Lolita lifestyle" is fundamentally about bettering yourself and bringing beauty to the world around you, not being a spoiled brat

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:35:26 2016 No.9282635 >>9282311 i always thought working as a brand shop girl in japan was the ultimate lolita job, working at starbucks isnt kawaii, ladies

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 03:38:16 2016 No.9282640

I don't give two shits about colors exactly matching. In fact, I often like the look of different shades of the same color being used in a coord on purpose. This especially looks cute with different shades of lavender and blue.

>>9282560
I think flats with lolita look bad because they throw off the balance in volume. Chunky shoes help balance out a huge poofy skirt. It's the same reason a lot of people think flat, thin hair doesn't look good with lolita.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 04:12:39 2016 No.9282664 >>9281979 Where did you get it? I did some online sleuthing and didn't find anything similar

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 04:12:39 2016 No.9282665

Like a few anons mentioned above, I also hate tea parties, they're just so goofy-looking.

I'm not outraged like most lolitas are when normies think they're age-players/the "other type of lolita". I love this fashion but whether people like it or not, sometimes we look like oversized toddlers. I understand being bothered but you need to take another look if you genuinely can't see why somebody would think you're dressed like a little kid.

I also dislike comm culture. Like >>9282266 mine is decent and the members are nice but I don't really have much in common with them besides an interest in lolita fashion, and I can only talk about that so much before getting bored. I much prefer wearing lolita out on my own or with a friend I have who is also into it. I mostly just see meets as an occasion to wear more OTT stuff comfortably.

I wish people didn't follow the rules so religiously and lynch anybody who dared to experiment. Stuff isn't always going to look good, but it's more interesting than the "formula" for coording people are trying to push.

I could never be bothered to care about e-famous lolitas. I find it ridiculous that people actually care about meeting them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 04:32:17 2016 No.9282675 >>9282635 Working at starbucks is not, working at a cute locally owned cafe, making people smile while bringing them delicious coffee and pastries made from scratch with love is very kawaii

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:01:46 2016 No.9282693 [DELETED]

>>9282437 #

I wa overweight when my waist was 77cm. I'm just into the healthy range now with a 75cm waist. I also have a large bust. 95cm. And that is a 34DD/DDD. When my bust was at the 100cm mark I was overweight. I am of average height. And I am in the process of losing weight. I think Lolita looks best on slim women, not borderline plump women like myself. (Although because I'm not overwight I am still smaller than 2/3 of Lolitas out there. So many people won't notice that I am plump) I do think slim (maybe a bmi of around 20) women look the best in Lolita.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:30:57 2016 No.9282700 >>9282410 Not just the pattern but because of the style of it. Lol, who said she should just wear plain white ones? Yep, this pleb totally invented lolita. Could you be any more of a weeb?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:34:55 2016 No.9282701 File: 279 KB, 1920x1080, 63c2d350-077a-49f4-8c52-35bd8215a134..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9281984 >rat poison is nastier than grass

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:49:42 2016 No.9282707 >>9281976 I smoke weed in my brand with my frilly friends. I also have washing machine and know how to use it, so no nasty smells in my brand. If your clothes stink, it's because your poor hygiene.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 07:46:56 2016 No.9282755

I really don't like prints. Maybe it's because when I first saw photos of lolita when I was young, solid pieces or simple patterns and appliques were common. This doesn't mean I only wear old school, I like a lot of brands newer non-print pieces as well, but I just feel like prints are too busy most of the time

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 09:10:38 2016 No.9282788 >>9282180 oh thank god, people agree. I genuinely like sweet, but teaparties are fugly

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 09:16:56 2016 No.9282791

>>9282246
idk, I do office work for a museum and I regularly volunteer to cover the desk & do tours because I genuinely enjoy being bullshit fake-nice to strangers. it can get taxing sometimes when people are particularly stupid, but that's how you get the good stories I guess...

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 09:29:49 2016 No.9282796

>>9282392
>Lolitas seem to not grasp the concept of body diversity even with the same measurements

this though... it's amazing how a fashion community has such a terrible grasp on how bodies and clothing measurements work. there is more than just bust:waist:hip measurements, and people with those same measurement can look vastly different and require different clothes.

we aren't 13 y/o boys talking about how mega hot our fake girlfriend is. christ.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:11:35 2016 No.9282824

>>9281983
>There's a reason brands don't make bigger sizes and it's because the fashion looks bad on whales
Or because it actually requires more money for fabric bolts, more pattern drafting, and not to mention a business gamble since much isn't known about how well plus sizes sell aside from Chantilly and Maxicimam.
This is just an uninformed opinion.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:28:52 2016 No.9282835

I really enjoyed rufflecon. Maybe this isn't a completely unpopular opinion, but I've heard a lot of people reallllllllly being assmad because of the condition of their hotel rooms/service/the weed smell/etc. I don't know, I guess I just got lucky. I got to spend a whole weekend with some of my closest friends, doing what we love. It's hard to be mad about that.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:30:19 2016 No.9282837

>>9282824
it's also because every extra size made is an additional cost. it's another fit model, another pattern, a seperate line of manufacturing, more stock to inventory. every additional size made is expensive, regardless of how small or large it is.

not to mention, yes, plus size clothes do require more cloth and different pattern styles.

tons of (I'd say most) indie clothing companies don't make more than a few sizes for their lines. and yes, every single lolita company is an indie clothing company.

but sure, live your weaboo dreams. tell yourself every decision made by brand is based on your magical dream vision of high standards land.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:39:35 2016 No.9282843

>>9281986
Likewise. I don't care what substyle it is, I think bonnets look childish, alng with the giant head-eating bows. In Classic or Gothic, a small, well placed bow in a mature hairstyle can look really lovely, but otherwise, I'm not a fan. Rather than bonnets, if the hair or wig is right for it as well as the outfit, I love vintage or historical style hats and hair-dos, such as the look that Lizchen-R goes for. Elegant and sophisticated. Also, don't get me started on the huge-ass veils / mantillas, and Madonna crowns trend!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:45:36 2016 No.9282850 I love veils, madonna crowns and flower crowns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:48:20 2016 No.9282852 I hate pastel/OTT sweet lolita it all looks like ageplayer crap to me desu

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 10:55:04 2016 No.9282856

>>9281993
Agreed 100%. Even when I'm not wearing anything nice I will get up and walk away if someone lights up a cigarette around me. Fuck your feefees, you smell revolting.

>>9282707
Eh my sister says the same thing but her clothes still smell, she's just gotten used to it. When my parents and I try to tell her there is still a weed smell on her clothes (like when she's going in for a job interview) she tells us we're just imagining things. Unsurprisingly she's still unemployed.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 11:06:52 2016 No.9282865

Mary Magdalene and Victorian Maiden aren't really THAT small. I've been 140 pounds at my heaviest, and have still been able to wear every dress in my closet, which is most comprised of the aforementioned brands. If you are able to comfortably wear ap and baby without spilling out and stretching the shirring to timbuktu, then you should be able to fit most MM and VM dresses.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 11:22:18 2016 No.9282880

>>9282865
I don't get this either. If you look at the measurements for unshirred JSKs and OPs from other brands, they're not that much larger than VM's or MM's. Especially when you look at more recent releases, where almost everything hovers around the 90/70 mark.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 11:33:33 2016 No.9282892 >>9282675 I have to agree. Local coffee house is my current job and I couldn't imagine anything better.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:16:59 2016 No.9282922

>>9282314
Had to look that up in inches.

So, I'm 112cm/44" bust, which means I'm fat? Despite the fact my waist is 70cm/28" at 5'9?

Maybe not do broad generalisations, anon. Makes you look stupid.

That being said, I think people who have large busts look ridiculous in lolita (dresses). It is not flattering whatsoever for their shape, regardless of waist measurements.

It's designed for people who are straighter shaped, so on any other body shape it looks faintly ridiculous.

It looks both painful and bad to see breasts smushed under a high collared tight fitting bodice, to the point where they're no longer only in the tiddy section of the dress.

Note: if your boobs have been squished into a rectangle bar sticking out of your chest, that item of clothing does not fit you. Size 0 or size 30, wear something that fits!

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:24:17 2016 No.9282933

>>9282564
Or she can have a different build than yours. Some people do not have lithe, petite builds, and with a 77cm waist, they may actually have a healthy bf%. Some people, no matter how much weight they lose will never achieve ideal tiny measurements unless maybe they go into renal failure.

You can say that person's body shape may not be your ideal one, but you have no fucking clue what that person looks like or how they are built. You're basing the assumption of one build, your own. This is why we have eating disorder issues.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:43:12 2016 No.9282944 >>9282022 I love this colorway and this coord, I don't know why western Lolitas are so fucking opposed to experimental styles.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:49:14 2016 No.9282947

>>9282865
>>9282880

I think it's moreso the fixed size. MM tends to be pretty uniformly 88/68, whereas some AP OPs have the chance of going up to 90+ bust and ~80 waist, and some Btssb comes in L sizes.

VM hasn't been small in awhile, they started doing shirred dresses a few years back. Maybe it's their rep of being small so people stay away from them?

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:50:29 2016 No.9282949

>>9282837
>additional cost
Yes, mentioned that.
>another pattern
Mentioned.
>but sure, live your weaboo dreams. tell yourself every decision made by brand is based on your magical dream vision of high standards land
What the actual fuck, are you high? What does that have to do with anything???

>>9282933
It's just some ugly ana bitch trying to make herself feel better. Anytime I see someone super bitter about fatties so much that they're chewing on someone who just has big boobs, they remind me of jealous high school girls.

Ignore the jelly flattie.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 12:57:04 2016 No.9282954

>>9282036
Allergic doesn't mean that it makes you feel uncomfortable, it means you'll have a physical reaction possibly to the point of death if you come into contact with the substance. Stop saying you have allergies when it probably just sets off mild asthma for you.

Not saying it doesn't make you feel as bad as it does, but it's not an allergy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:00:57 2016 No.9282955 >>9282223 >I don't like tea, it just tastes like hot leaf water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPnZhKRtZ_U

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:01:37 2016 No.9282956 Aristocrat the way the West wears it is just classic lolita/ouji with a lower hemline, half the time. The other half of the time, it's generic Neo-Victorian fashion with nothing Japanese about it at all.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:13:02 2016 No.9282960

I hate when I can see people's bare leg skin. By that I don't mean not wearing socks or whatever, but when they don't wear a pair of skin coloured tights underneath. Especially with underknee socks. Knees are fucking disgusting looking and sheer hose just sorts it all out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:15:20 2016 No.9282962 >>9282922 I'm 5'11 at 36/27 and I'm sure as hell not thin. A big bust/waist discrepancy doesn't mean you're not fat, it just means your fat is distributed less evenly. Also cow tits don't look good in lolita period.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:15:56 2016 No.9282963

>>9281980
Agreed. I was a cosplayer before I was a lolita and it was utterly baffling when I first heard that. Nobody gives a shit if you get a cosplay dirty or tear it up or retire it, even if it's really expensive and fancy. Who the fuck cares? It's not yours. You wanting something doesn't make it yours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:41:43 2016 No.9282978 >>9282963 That's different though because cosplayers make their own stuff, don't usually sell it second-hand, ever, and anyone else could make the same cosplay if they got skilled enough. Not the same as dresses made of prints that came in limited runs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 13:58:27 2016 No.9282989 >>9282311 The fuck?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:02:26 2016 No.9282991 >>9282960 I hate, HATE wearing nice clothes without at least nude pantyhoes. It's one thing when I am wearing athletic shorts or whatever. But a nice skirt? I need some nylons on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:05:15 2016 No.9282992 >>9282954 You're right, it's not an allergy. It's actually severe asthma that puts me in the ER frequently. Sorry for not being specific enough in a post on cgl lol.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:18:23 2016 No.9283000

>>9282954
...allergies are just an immunological reaction to something that other average people don't have. they don't have to be life threatening. you can be allergic to cigarette smoke, it's a thing I promise.

>hold on let me inform my doctor my seasonal pollen allergies are fake because 4chan said so

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:26:33 2016 No.9283010

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or just one people avoid sharing but I absolutely hate seeing excessive body hair on lolitas. Shave your arms and legs or at least lighten them. Plug your goddamn eyebrows. It is so gross seeing someone wearing lolita just covered in body hair.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:28:03 2016 No.9283011

I fucking HATE cosplayers turned lolitas. I think they are the plague that helped this shitty costumey OTT staff, wings, crown trend grow, as well as trying to one up each other on the amount of costume, OTT, lights, wings you are wearing. Yes I know some brands use that in fashion shows, so does Victoria's secret, but you don't wear wings with your lingerie.

Also can't stand that lolita is an anime convention staple now. I love anime, but that's the reason people always ask if it's a costume or a cosplay.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:29:06 2016 No.9283012

>>9282992
Dude, it's just shitty to lie.

>>9283000
>tfw being a microbiologist having immunity explained to them

Go back and read my post again please, you'll notice
>Possibly
Already covered that it isn't necessarily life threatening.

There is no such thing as an allergy to "Cigarette smoke" because it's not one thing, it's a collection of lots and lots of horrible compounds that cause irritation in everyone, like all smoke. Some people are more sensitive to it, they aren't allergic though, it's just doctor speak to explain smoke inflammation in a way that ensures plebs stay away from what's hurting them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:29:13 2016 No.9283013 >>9282949 lmao udder-chan, you do know nobody interested jfash is jealous of your useless fat tits? we literally have gulls here that get breast reductions so that they're an A or B cup but keep thinking we're the jealous ones, fatty :^)

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:32:17 2016 No.9283018

>>9283011
I am interested in both but I at least know ot keep the two separate.

Most of my comm is filled with these false cosplay lolitas now and it drives me batty. All their coords are pretty much costumes and everything they do has to be OTT or with caked on makeup in a very innapropriate style. They even treat meetups like mini conventions in a way, demanding photos every two steps. Everything about it just annoys me.

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Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:36:34 2016 No.9283023

>>9282856
I'm honestly interested in this. I smoke weed everyday, in my room, where all my clothes live. I have never had issues getting jobs... In fact, I'm the kind of person who tends to job hop (after a few months at a job I tend to get overwhelmed and just stop going). I've gotten more jobs than anyone I know my age, and I've gotten more jobs than most older people too. I've even gotten jobs at some ridiculously fancy places and employers tend to comment on how well put together I am. So I think it's pretty obvious that my clothes don't smell like weed or else why would all these places hire me?

Does your sister smoke joints in her room without airing it out? Does she smoke really crappy, cheap weed? Does she smoke blunts? Blunts are partly tobacco and that's why they smell like absolute hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:39:03 2016 No.9283026 >>9283010 >shave your arms What..? Girls do this? I thought only chicks with like, dark ass or super thick arm hair did this.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:41:48 2016 No.9283028

>>9283023
>Does she smoke blunts? Blunts are partly tobacco and that's why they smell like absolute hell.

It's because they're made of cigar tobacco, not because they're tobacco. A blunt wrap is a cigar wrap in different branding. Rolling tobacco smells nice, kind of like liquorice.

Also everywhere else in the world, a joint is part loose/rolling tobacco part weed, they smell fine. America is the only place (And obviously the places which take slang directly from america) where "joint" means only weed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:44:09 2016 No.9283031 >>9283028 Errr I disagree. I think rolling tobacco smells like shit. I think all tobacco smells like shit. Tobacco smoke seeps into shit and never leaves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:48:37 2016 No.9283038 >>9283031 Oh, I meant unsmoked/unlit. If you smell an unlit cigar or wrap they still smell absolutely disgusting, which is why they smell so gross when being burned. They're just gross.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:50:13 2016 No.9283041 >>9283038 Okay, I agree with that. Unlit tobacco does smell kinda like licorice whereas unlit cigar tobacco always smells like butts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:53:03 2016 No.9283043 I like HWC.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:01:17 2016 No.9283055

>>9282180
I've never bought any because they look uncomfortable, though I'm admittedly really new to the fashion. I've had a really difficult time figuring out what I should wear though, when regular flats are out, and my knees are bad with heels. I don't want to look like a kid, I just want to look cute or nice. I think boots are the only thing that have worked so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:04:25 2016 No.9283060 >>9283043 I hate the anons who reply to her a thousand, thousand times more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:09:01 2016 No.9283062 >>9283055 I find my bodyline tea parties to be pretty comfortable. No lolita shoes are good for really heavy walking, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:11:14 2016 No.9283064 >>9283060 The people who keep bitching about her are the worst though, they accuse everyone of being her and are the reason she shitposts so much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:11:55 2016 No.9283065 >>9282949 It could also be a fat bitch who hates herself so much she insults other fat people. I know because I'm really fat and I call lots of people on this board fat for the same reason.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:13:06 2016 No.9283067

>>9282962
I wouldn't describe it as fat either. Especially since it's breast tissue and fat cells are two separate things. Cramming boobs into things that aren't big enough/don't have stretch is a sure fire way of damaging and malforming them.

Lolita isn't designed for breast. It's designed to make you look childlike/Victorian doll (on the whole).

There are more flattering style for the well endowed.

Unpopular opinion from me for cgl, fat and body tissue/bone structure are not the same thing

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:13:54 2016 No.9283068

>>9282314
>MFW my measurements are like 102/92/122 :(
>less than they were, but still just sitting around sad and trying to lose enough to wear this fashion - not gonna touch brand no matter what people have said I could get away with
>still shaped like a fucking washboard with a garbage bag for hips/ass, probably even if I lose the weight

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:17:58 2016 No.9283071 >>9283068 >those measurements Fucking disgusting. And yet I'm still fatter. Please encourage me to either starve or kill myself. I don't know why I haven't done either yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:21:38 2016 No.9283076 >>9282180 Yup, tea parties are just so infantile looking, and inelegant. They do look like toddler shoes, agreed. I'm not sayign that any old footwear is fine for lolita, but you don't need to wear lolita specific brand footwear.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:25:43 2016 No.9283082 >>9283068 It's not worth killing yourself over weight. >>9283076 Tea parties don't look like toddler shoes at all (Mary Janes are much worse for that), but they can look like clown shoes, especially in red.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:44:44 2016 No.9283109
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The Livejournal era of lolita wasn't perfect, but that was the last time the community felt truly unified. Lolita has been on a decline ever since, mostly because of Tumblr/Facebook, and GLW making girls want to be efamous.

Larme Kei is just gyaru 2.0 and most of the trends in Larme are sold by normie stores. Most Larme brands are just overpriced Forever 21 clones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:46:46 2016 No.9283111 >>9283023 Same here. I often quit jobs to avoid drug testing. No problems getting hired really. But I also wouldn't be stupid enough to smoke weed inbetween jobs, cause I know I have to pass a drug test.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:53:39 2016 No.9283117

I think most comms are way too accepting of guys trying to get into the group and they should be much harsher. Only a fraction of the "brolitas" we have trying to join actually turn out to be brolitas, rather than sissies or creepy normie dudes that want to hang out with "lolis". I would happily join a comm where dudes were flat-out banned unless they were established in the fashion, or that had a rule that guys over 30 couldn't join, even if this would disadvantage new guys that genuinely want to get into the fashion. Middle-aged guys that aren't socially maladjusted recognise that, even if they're genuinely interested in lolita, it's weird for them to go on group outings with girls half their age. The very fact that a 45-year-old dude wants to come to meets is a giant red flag that he's got no social skills and is probably a creep. It pisses me off that girls IRL are so caught up in being fake-sweet and accepting that ~anyone can be a lolita~ that they ignore warning signs like this and endanger their younger members again and again.

I know a lot of lolitas IRL who feel the same so maybe it's not an unpopular opinion, but none of them will say it publicly. It's a pity that comms can't institute a policy like this without people kicking off and saying they're being reprehensible. I'd actually be considered SJW by 4chan standards but apparently it's horrible to not want to hang around with dudes twice my age in Milanoo dresses at meets because they "might be genuinely interested!"

Whenever comms do have a dude like this going to meets it causes an obvious drop in meet attendance as so many girls don't want to be seen around the guy, but know they'll get crucified if they say it outright.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:53:56 2016 No.9283118 >>9283071 You'll just get fatter if you starve yourself, but I'm not stopping you. I'm probably skipping just about every sweet this christmas, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:54:27 2016 No.9283119 >>9282294 this is a good post, i had a giggle

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:55:19 2016 No.9283120 >>9283082 It was >9283071 that wants to die over their weight, not me. I'm sad, but at least I'm doing what I can over it. Just sucks is all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:56:37 2016 No.9283122 >>9283018 Yes the photos! The cosplayers are so used to trying to get attention and photos that many meets become a photoshoot like it's some kind of costumed thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:57:50 2016 No.9283126 >>9283120 You're right, I replied to the wrong post. I meant >>9283071 Slow and steady, anon! Gradual progress and genuine lifestyle changes is the easiest to sustain and the least likely to leave you with saggy skin at the end of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:57:55 2016 No.9283127 Jojo poses in lolita are the worst. Why is this shit a trend? Especially when we are doing a group photo after a nice meetup someone suggests this, half the girls get excited and the other half doesn't know wtf to do.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:58:36 2016 No.9283128

>>9282700
Not a weeb, I don't really watch anime and I don't pretend to read moonrunes.

But this attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. I know that girl didn't invent j-fash, that's fucking absurd for you to even jump to that conclusion.

She is one of MANY girls on the streets of Japan wearing j-fashion. They lead by example. We follow their trends.

I didn't say PLAIN white ones either. Stop trying to poke holes in things where there aren't any. You're practically trying to put words in my mouth, hence, you must be fucking trolling.
They could be white ones that went with the coord. That would still be boring. Because everyone does that shit in the west, and not over there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:00:02 2016 No.9283132 File: 42 KB, 600x374, 1325407065923.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282314 >when you see a whalord with a corsette pushing her boobs and fat up out the top of the shit and looks like a flesh version of surface tension

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:01:39 2016 No.9283135

>>9282791
This, I like having a good story to tell which is why I stay in customer service.

I'll never forget the guy telling me that quote "These cab companies.. well, they're cab companies" I seriously didn't even know what to say to that guy but it was fucking hilarious.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:04:50 2016 No.9283140

>>9283117
I am mostly on your side and I am a dude over 30 who wears brand. Talk to the comm mods, and if you know others well enough, encourage them to do so also.

If my comm was mostly teenagers or even under-21s, I wouldn't go to most meetups, but there are a lot of lolitas my age and they tend to be who I talk to. 30 isn't technically middle aged, but it's still fucking weird for a 30-year-old man to seek out teenage friends in a non-mentoring capacity. The power gap between an adult male and a young adult or teenage female makes it almost impossible to interact as equals and puts the girl in an uncomfortable position.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:05:20 2016 No.9283141

>>9283128
>They lead by example. We follow their trends.
This hasn't been true for a long time desu. These days the Western community overwhelmingly follows brand trends and are influenced by street trends from other jfashions like CPK. Since there's such easy availability of coord shots from westerners online now, fewer and fewer people in the west buy the GLB as they don't need to pay for Japanese street snaps to see coords and get release news online. Websites like TokyoFashion only post lolita occasionally, and most Japanese lolitas are fairly private and don't post pics online. The main exposure Western lolitas get to Japanese trends is from scans of brand spreads and the accounts of brand models, not from girls organically wearing lolita on the streets.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:05:37 2016 No.9283142

>>9283126
That's the goal, thanks for the encouragement! Thanksgiving fucked me up, so I'm gonna be stronger willed this Christmas. I eat fairly healthy when my family isn't rocking the boat by guilting me with homemade things. There's no getting around the fact that I'll need skin surgery at the end, but at least a lot of that won't show under clothing if I can just get down to a decent enough size to wear what I want. OTL

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:06:16 2016 No.9283145

>>9283126
Thanks. I hate being fat, and I bring it up a lot, and I'm kind of a bitch about it, but I need to keep hearing that. It's true, I just need to make lifestyle changes, which I've already done. I just need to remember that weight loss takes time, which I keep forgetting. Thanks for reminding me not to give up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:06:47 2016 No.9283147 >>9283067 >breast tissue and fat cells are two separate things. That explains all those mega milk female olympians >oh wait

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:07:09 2016 No.9283148 >>9283127 because it's fun it's ok if you don't have fun with them or want to opt out

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:08:53 2016 No.9283149

>>9282992
You sound like those people that are suddenly allergic to cats when they see one in their presence and they start sneezing uncontrollably.

its fucking embarrassing to see someone fake sneeze btw.

not only that but one of my goth friends used to pull this shit at parties when it comes to me and my other friends smoking weed and she'd cry until we opened a window or a sliding door.
I've seen her been around people smoking now and she's fine. She's just a fucking special little butterfly that needed some kind of control over a situation where something she didn't like was happening.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:09:12 2016 No.9283150

>>9283147
Orrr girls with giant tits never get into sports because them flopping while you run is uncomfortable and, beyond a certain point, a sports bra won't help? Girls with small tits are probably more aerodynamic as well, making them better at advancing in the sport. Seems like you're confusing cause and effect.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:10:44 2016 No.9283151

>>9283145
I'm the anon with the gross measurements, and hang in there. In my experience, sugars and carbs are your worst enemy; finding foods that make you full will sustain you longer to actually lose the weight. Don't hate yourself. We'll eventually get there. I get pissed about my body too.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:15:50 2016 No.9283160

>>9283140
It is difficult because I know there are dudes who really just like the fashion, and I don't want to bar them outright since I've met some pretty chill brolitas, but they're definitely a minority among the guys that join comms and at some point it seems like it'd be less hassle to ban upfront. At the moment I live in a small comm with literally no brolitas, apart from some femme/androgynous-presenting FtMs, but the same comm has had about six sissies join and lurk and another guy who treats lolita as a hilarious, edgy joke and doesn't seem to care what he wears as long as it looks funny.

>it's still fucking weird for a 30-year-old man to seek out teenage friends in a non-mentoring capacity
This is the bit that really gets me. Mods want to treat people as innocent until proven guilty, but even if they're not being actively creepy, an older guy joining a group about dresses because he wants to hang around with young girls is basically guilty by association. There's nothing in common and no reason to be in the same social groups.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:18:14 2016 No.9283165

>>9283151
Thanks for the kind words and advice, and sorry I called you disgusting before. I said that out of self-hatred. I'll try not to hate myself so much. I've learned that hating myself doesn't make it any easier for me to lose weight. All it does is make me think I have an excuse to be mean to others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:19:27 2016 No.9283167 >looking through larme magazine, 90% of larme has no defined aesthetic and is basically normie fashion >the west fixates on the 10% of larme that looks most different to other fashion >this 10% is basically Japanese nymphet

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:20:03 2016 No.9283168 >>9283127 Because the new jojo fans are cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:22:16 2016 No.9283174 >cosplay is boring and so are most cons outside the US >I only like shit-tier cosplay where it's obvious people are just trying to have fun with their friends at a con, and excellent 10/10 perfectly executed cosplay >everything in between is garbage

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:27:34 2016 No.9283183 >>9283111 it's really easy to pass drug tests and never stop smoking if you know what I mean fampai

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:31:07 2016 No.9283185 >>9283167 agreed I fucking hate larme and everything about it and I want Risa to stay out of my lolita

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:31:43 2016 No.9283186 >>9283127 It's just a joke, anon. It's something fun to do. Lolita doesn't always have to be serious business.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:32:34 2016 No.9283189 >>9283148 No it's not. Save that shit for anime cons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:34:21 2016 No.9283193 File: 12 KB, 142x172, 1481301439776.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283167 >>9283185 Absolutely disgusting. I hate the fetishization of the ~sad girl~ aesthetic anyway, it's total cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 16:59:35 2016 No.9283211 >>9283167 Aww is someone sad they're too fat to fit into any Larme brands? Go back to Lolita sweetheart.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:00:27 2016 No.9283212 >>9283141 Uhh, stuff like photo shoots doesn't count less in my book or something? And I agree with you but still. Remember when Risa went blouseless and there was an uproar here? That's the kind of shit I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:03:37 2016 No.9283215 >>9283211 kek. I fit larme, doesn't mean I don't think it looks absolutely disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:05:46 2016 No.9283218 >>9281984 both are disgusting. inhaling smoke of burning shit is disgusting.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:06:30 2016 No.9283219

>>9283183
Depends on where you work. Someone I know quit for two months and still didn't pass. I smoke every day so I have to stop and immediately start drinking water from the time I stop. I also start exercising so I can get ride of those fat cells that are holding metabolites.
Some places will test for detox kits and from my understanding, if you try to dilute your system, they will count that against you and not hire you.

I'm talking about jobs working in companies involved in medical stuff and working at the airport where I had to take an observed drug test. I couldn't just bring in fake pee with me. I couldn't just down a detox kit.

Sure, it's easy to pass a drug test and work at a grocery store and it's easy to pass a mouth swab if you don't smoke a day beforehand. I've done that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:09:52 2016 No.9283221 I love the way aprons, heart-shaped glasses and even cat ears look with lolita coords aesthetically, but I won't wear them and can't see them without cringing because they have such strong associations with other things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:10:01 2016 No.9283222 >>9282156 I'm a barista by choice. i really like it. it's rewarding and fun. I make great money especially when you add the tips, and it's not even a bad job since I get healthcare, 401K, etc. But it has nothing to do with being a "dream Lolita job".

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:12:46 2016 No.9283223
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>mfw I quit smoking

Also a couple:

I tend to like when dresses are a little on the short side. I realize I'm a bit biased, as my first dress was a 2006 AP dress so it was pretty damn short. However, it's the first dress I really loved, so.

And I don't mean super short, but I can do 3 inches over the knee or something. Most people seem to get their panties in a twist at 2 inches now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:13:18 2016 No.9283224 >>9283221 I love cat paws and want to wear them but won't because everyone would just lose their shit. I'll just get them and wear them in photographs for myself I guess..

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:14:01 2016 No.9283226 >>9283211 Like >>9283215 I fit larme as well, except I wouldn't be caught dead in it It's like fetish wear for normies who think they're ~totes edgy~

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:16:56 2016 No.9283229 >>9283221 What's wrong with heart glasses?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:18:20 2016 No.9283230 File: 65 KB, 290x417, lolita_poster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283229 well for starters...

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:19:59 2016 No.9283232
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>>9283167
I like Larme, but the fanbase is delusional that it is some rigid and super special super hard to grasp fashion. And how Larme hates Swankiss because it's ~tarnishing our preshush mature fashun!!!!~ is laughable.

Fact is, Larme is the bastard child of neo-Gyaru and soft sister/amo style from 2012, right down to the nymphet inspiration.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:21:37 2016 No.9283236

>>9283229
Iconic prop from the film version of Lolita, destroying any attempts to tell people that lolita is not about dressing like a "precocious" child that wants older men.

>inb4 someone tells me "but lolita the book is about abuse if you read between the lines!"
I know, but the film massively romanticizes it and portrays the girl as much more of a sexual agent than she was in the book. It's a big part of where the idea of Lolita as a character deliberately seducing older men comes from, rather than her being a child who was the target of an older man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:21:40 2016 No.9283237 >>9283229 Not that anon but it's been associated with nymphette fashion and was I think used for a film adaption of Lolita. I love them anyways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:22:40 2016 No.9283240 >>9283232 Very much this. The neo-gyaru influence is strong, right down to it being very close to normie fashion but with a slight aesthetic twist.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:24:44 2016 No.9283245
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>>9283232
The threads here for it are so fucking irritating. I posted a girl with "stickers" on her face once and they insisted that oh, that makes it not larme but swankiss larme like it's this different side project thing.
Then I posted this and they tried to tell me it wasn't the same? THEY HAVE FUCKING STICKERS ON THEIR FACES.

It's cute/mature right? Looks cute/mature to me and so did the other girl who had stickers on her face and was wearing larme aesthetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:26:34 2016 No.9283246 File: 14 KB, 448x287, lolita97_04.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283236 I'm dead sick of people just mentioning the book. THE FILMS ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:30:05 2016 No.9283249 >>9283246 yep. normies don't even read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:35:33 2016 No.9283257 File: 80 KB, 700x700, w-02042-00.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283221 Cat ears are cute if they're made well. BTSSB has some nice pairs. I don't get the hate for aprons though. They're an old school staple.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:35:51 2016 No.9283258
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>>9283245
I don't understand the rage boner for Swankiss. It's the most interesting Larme brand in terms of putting out interesting designs. I'm sorry, but every other Larme brand is just putting out exactly what Forever 21/H&M/TopShop/Nasty Gal are selling! Why bother paying more just because it comes from a Japanese brand?

But no, Larme totally isn't normie!!! It's a totally special Japanese alternative fashion!!!!

Larme is for girls who grew out of Lolita and want to dress normie now but can't admit it. And I have no problem with the clothes themselves, they're cute, but the amount of sperging over anything interesting looking is ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:40:01 2016 No.9283268 >>9283258 I agree. I usually don't care about larme, but I love Swankiss because it's different.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:40:27 2016 No.9283270 >>9283257 Aprons look great but the association with maids and anime meido costumes is impossible to shake. Kind of a pity when it's not like servants were the only people who wore aprons historically.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:47:29 2016 No.9283281 >>9283211 I'm a former gal. most larme brands ARE brands I wore. doesn't mean I'm not bitter my favorite companies turned to trash for quick money. >I may be a whore but at least I'm not ageplay cancer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:54:43 2016 No.9283291 >>9283165 No hard feelings, I do understand. I have a thick skin coming on here, but I had to learn it. You'll get better at it! I'll be rooting for you!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:15:59 2016 No.9283320 File: 102 KB, 960x960, 13615209_1046920708694772_8442876388381458374_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I actually like lolitas like Claire and Hello Batty... I don't get the consistent bias towards their coords.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:19:11 2016 No.9283321 >>9283320 Same anon. I just keep my mouth shut here since I don't want to get screamed at.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:21:50 2016 No.9283325

>>9283320
I think they just try to hard to be efamous. Other than the poofy skirts their aestethic is not quite the traditional lolita one which makes me feel like they are reaching for both lolita community and the general cute alternative fashion community. It makes them look a bit forced.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:23:10 2016 No.9283328

>>9283147
Simona Halep - tennis - she actually had a breast reduction because it was hindering her career
Natalie Bulbus - golfer
Anna Semenovich - figure skater
Vojislava Lukic - tennis
Torrie Wilson - wrestler
Bianca Cruz - baseball player
Clair Video - snowboarder

Sports women with breasts.

To name but a few.

The thing about athletes is they wear sports bras. Also, breasts generally hinders most sports.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:29:10 2016 No.9283332
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>>9283325
This is part of what I don't get?
Why is it considered shitty here to be efamous or to get any kind of attention? (Lets not talk about how someone among us gets all kinds of attention and no one does jack shit about it)
That screams jealousy to me.

Lolita is an alternative fashion itself, please don't forget that.
The only reason I found the fashion is because I was interested in dressing in an alternative way and then I found a Fruits book.

I don't think there is anything forced about using social media within this fashion when that is what most girls and boys are doing with this hobby. And yes, it's a fucking hobby. Fashion can be a hobby.
Some people just have more luck with social media than others. That's just how everything works. There will always be people who are better than others. Just like in this case, there will always be girls who get more attention than others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:54:52 2016 No.9283357 >>9282071 dreamy baby room is my dream dress and im only slightly ashamed, mostly cause everyones a fuckin asshole about it also wristcuffs r dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:59:26 2016 No.9283363 >>9282180 i refuse to wear flats of any kind in lolita. i dont hold other people to it but to me its a rule. heeled tea parties are fucking adorable tho

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 19:02:16 2016 No.9283368

>oldschool sweet looks more like children's clothes than OTT sweet does.

I love oldschool, but I don't get why people consider it a more "toned-down" substyle. Like the other styles, it can range from simple to OTT, and some oldschool looks much weirder to wear around than simple recent AP all-over prints do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 19:18:10 2016 No.9283388 >>9282022 I really like the polka dot shirt with this dress for some reason some how it works for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 19:23:06 2016 No.9283392 >>9282001 I agree trying new things really makes the fashion worth doing , it gets a little boring just seeing and doing the same crap with brand all the time.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 19:40:15 2016 No.9283409

I actually like those holographic ccf shoes in coords
The majority of bssb is hideous
I like unnatural hair in coords
Animal ears can sometimes look cute af
Brand should really have s/m/l options
Electric blue and black look tragic together
Sometimes people can alter offbrand to be a main piece

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 19:54:52 2016 No.9283415

>>9283320
It's more their attitude towards others that people don't like. Batty is very self centered and often puts her foot in her mouth. Claire is pretty rude in person as well. But at least Claire can do her makeup. Batty'S problem is she thinks that those who don't like her are just stalking her when really it's because she spams her shit on every platform she can that you run into it every time. You can't google image search dolly cross without getting a fuck ton of her images all over the place from different outlets. But you are a stalker to her if you know about the shit she absolutely doesn't hide from the public eye. This is what people don't like about others who push their internet fame too hard. You simply can't turn a corner without being faced with them. Claire is much the same but not nearly as bad as batty. Both are pretty insufferable in person. I have only met batty personally in the AP fashion show and she's just loud and obnoxious in person. Uses her sarcasm to mask her own self hatred but it's obvious she's a miserable person. Claire I have heard is kinda bold with her mouth then backpeddles her statements often.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:10:37 2016 No.9283428 >>9283258 But what's wrong with Larme being normie? Yeah for the most part it isn't alternative (excluding the fetish stuff or Swankiss stuff) but that doesn't make it any less cute or Jfashion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:12:26 2016 No.9283429 Wristcuffs look dumb af, especially when worn with short sleeves. I don't understand some people's obsession with having to have something on your wrists.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:15:27 2016 No.9283430

>>9283415
So this is all just gossip until you have proof.

That aside. I see their stuff yet I never hear this kind of thing except for right here on this board. That's what makes me think that this is just a cgl hatred and they're actually just human beings. Everyone is shitty deep down inside. I can't believe you don't know this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:19:53 2016 No.9283433 I hate most printed leg wear, especially with a print main piece, even when they're from the same set it looks too busy.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:37:58 2016 No.9283439
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>>9283430
Here's a cap that was posted in a thread months ago with your proof that batty is rude. Won't be up long enough though since she reports any thing that is about her as "singling out"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:43:36 2016 No.9283443 >>9283439 How are those comments any different from the things people say to each other here? How is it okay for anons to say those kinds of things but not for someone on facebook to?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:45:35 2016 No.9283447 >>9283439 >your mad that's pretty embarrassing though. But seriously. Her coords are fine most of the time and people here just have a vendetta against people like her and Claire and Kate and who ever else has a tiny bit of efame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:47:36 2016 No.9283450 >>9282960 >>9282991 oh francis talk dirty to me

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:48:18 2016 No.9283453 >>9283167 where is the lie >>9283439 What she's saying is true though, she just carried the argument on too long.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:51:05 2016 No.9283454 >>9283325 Batty in particular mixes in generic alt elements and make-up and fetish things way too much IMHO. I don't hate her because I don't mind people doing their own thing, but I hate that sort of edgy accessorizing.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 20:55:30 2016 No.9283457

>>9283447
I don't have much to say about how she dresses honestly. She's had hit and misses. I do think she needs to learn how to use makeup though. She doesn't know how to do winged eyeliner and eyebrows to save herself. It's her personality that I find makes her disgusting. And her voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me. But that's easy to avoid by not going to her channel. I could care less how she dresses. I just get second hand embarrassment when she opens her mouth and says dumb shit like this as a defense mechanism. Am glad she stopped posting all the sjw shit all over her fan page. I can now go there to see actual coordinates from her rather then political bias shit.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 21:07:37 2016 No.9283465

>>9283428
It's not even normie, though. I get just as many comments on larme as I do any other j-fashion.

The individual items of clothing may be available in normie to an extent, but they would never be styled in the way you see in the magazine. And we wouldn't have larme itas if this were the case, but we do. It's just as freakish and weird to normalfags as any other j-fash. I think a lot of lolitas have really lost perspective on what's eyecatching according to normies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 21:10:09 2016 No.9283469 >>9282022 the purse matches nothing, and red shoes would have been perfect.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 21:14:32 2016 No.9283472
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>>9283465
I got something like pic related at F21.

Yes they don't style them the same, but you can still get VERY similar items. I do get lots of compliments when I wear the thing I got from F21 but I never tell anyone its larme or that it's j-fash cause well.. it's fucking normie clothes. I bought it from a normie store.

No one has ever found it weird, unlike when I wear lolita which is fucking insane compared to larme.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 21:23:23 2016 No.9283480

>>9283472
And did you wear it with a choker and fluffy bedroom mules outside? I didn't dispute anywhere that you can buy those kinds of things in normalfag stores, or that you should go around telling people it's larme.

Idk where you live but here knee high/overknee socks are alone are enough to have normalfag teenagers shout at you in the street, and people tell you what you're wearing is inappropriate and should be left in the bedroom. This is the level that normalfags start thinking you're a weirdo at. They can't see the difference between j-fashions or alternative fashion, it doesn't matter whether it's fairy-kei, lolita, larme, mallgoth, cyber whatever. It all looks literally identical to them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 21:34:31 2016 No.9283484 >>9283480 This. While LARME definitely can go the normie route, it can also quickly go into alt fashion territory. I couldn't wear any of those fetish garter dresses without a ton of stares.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:04:35 2016 No.9283512 I don't give a shit if people think I'm cosplaying or if people think of lolita as cosplay. Why does it matter? Lolita seriously looks costumey anyway. People throwing fucking tantrums over being mistaken for cosplay need to get the fuck over it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:11:14 2016 No.9283523

>>9283332
>Why is it considered shitty here to be efamous or to get any kind of attention?

Sometimes it is jealousy, but I think people here bitch because these girls shooting for e-fame are obnoxious. Batty is in my comm and she's nice enough I suppose, but she's insanely try hard and it feels insincere.

There are a lot of forced things when it comes to social media, people shooting for e-fame post widely and aggressively and will post every little thing a lot, making it seem try hard.

Also, taking a look at this pic, that lavender dress is clashing with everything in this coord.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:13:44 2016 No.9283526 >>9283068 lolita is literally the perfect silhouette for you, anon. don't beat yourself up. you probably clean up really nice, just like the rest of us!

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:18:25 2016 No.9283533

>>9283332
I wish she didn't wear circle lenses; she might look better without them. And framing her face with her hair like that makes her head seem squat... She might be cuter with a bob haircut, though.

... As for her e-fame? I've never met her so I can't really judge her. Some of her coords are a little miss-the-mark but this one, for instance, is nice and simple and kind of cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:19:32 2016 No.9283536 >>9281998 I'm in northern Cali and i fucking hate pot. I think it's for degenerates and I shouldn't have to smell it. I also hate cigarettes, but only when i'm trying to enjoy my apartment and the neighbor's smoke wafts in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:20:34 2016 No.9283538 File: 355 KB, 1080x1080, IMG_5735.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283523 At least her hair matches better then it has been lately. Like why wear this and have blue hair that clashes it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:23:35 2016 No.9283540 >>9283023 >>9283111 Many employers consider it a bad sign if an employee has a record of job hopping frequently, so how do you get rehired so quickly? Unless it's shitty min wage jobs

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:25:47 2016 No.9283543 >>9283540 Bullshit your resume

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:27:52 2016 No.9283544 >>9283450 underrated comment

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:27:59 2016 No.9283545 >>9283536 Dude, that's cause you're in norcal. Everyone there is a degenerate. When I lived there everyone was doing meth. I couldn't even find weed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:29:17 2016 No.9283548 >>9283543 This. Who doesn't lie on their fucking resume these days?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:30:32 2016 No.9283549 >>9283223 im also very much a fan of shorter dresses, my first was also 2006 but a meta dress. im 5'3" and feel stumpy and ugly in longer dresses

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:30:51 2016 No.9283550 >>9283543 All of the "grown-up" jobs I've ever applied to check that shit meticulously. I used to be a job hopper until I got a decent paying job and starting saving and investing seriously.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:32:13 2016 No.9283553

i don't care about drama unless it's Anime Matsuri-tier or even Margo Palermo-tier. those are literally the only "dramas" i have followed or remotely cared about. bitching about anything lesser feels like a waste of energy.

even then, i only care about the Palermos because i have an insane stalker mother i have been hiding from for 10 years.

when it comes to people whose biggest "crime" is being an attention whore... i have 0 fucks to give.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:32:35 2016 No.9283554

>>9283548
People who know that most jobs will ring your previous companies to confirm you worked there and how long for. It'll help you get an interview, but after the interview is when they factcheck your resume and can blacklist you if you lie.

Like, ofc there's no danger bullshitting stuff from several years back, but I wouldn't do it for anything within the past couple of years, and if you change jobs that often you'll still look like you're job hopping.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:33:18 2016 No.9283555 >>9283332 that rich violet dyejob is gorgeous though. fuck the professional world--I can't WAIT to dye my hair again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:33:21 2016 No.9283556 >>9283526 Not that anon but that was a sweet comment. May you find your dream dress for a good price. >inb4 hugbox I like a little sweet with my salty okay?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:33:50 2016 No.9283557 >>9283550 Where do you live? In the US, the more "grown up" a job, as you say, the less people are going to check. You'll be under more scrutiny when it comes to a retail job than a job that requires a degree, unless we're talking education system jobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:33:51 2016 No.9283558 >>9283553 This is a popular opinion desu, most lolitas IRL don't give a fuck about cgl drama.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:34:51 2016 No.9283559 >>9283409 >electric blue and black look tragic Wait a min, are you shitting on Moitie???? I hope you meant tragic as some sort of gothic compliment.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:35:00 2016 No.9283560

>>9283538
the coord itself is fine. Her make up is whack, I agree. As for the hair thing, it's just nitpick.
But I'm also okay with unnatural hair colors in lolita. I'm not out to just talk about Batty.

We've completely left subject I was trying to address because you guys just want to focuse on an individual. She is not the only person who has a clear bias against her because of "some shit personality"

again, everyone has a shitty personality at their core. You're delusional if you think some perfect lovely lolita actually exists. Everyone has done and said shitty things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:35:16 2016 No.9283561 >>9283554 >>9283550 lol so I guess you guys don't have family businesses you can say you worked at, huh?

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:37:39 2016 No.9283562

>>9283554
>not just having someone lie on the phone for you

I've done it and most people I know do this.
Plus I live in a plus where literally all they are legally allowed to ask is "did so and so work there and for how long?"
That's it. They can't ask why you were fired or how you were an employee there. Easy pickens for me. Sorry about where you live, anon.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:37:49 2016 No.9283563

>>9283557
Not that anon but I'm in the UK and low-end retail/food service/hospitality job I've applied for have been the ones that have made me give 10+ years of job history inputted into an online form with start and end dates accurate to the day. Office jobs are more likely to just ask for a CV and covering letter, where it's easier to obfuscate the truth BUT they have HR departments to fact-check and you can be in serious trouble if you lie. I think you can actually get fired retrospectively if your company find out you lied after you've worked there a couple of years in some places.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:40:10 2016 No.9283564 >>9283430 look at comments on RC:U if you wanna see claire soaking up drama with the rest of them

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:40:57 2016 No.9283566 File: 603 KB, 585x538, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9282396 there's a distinction between being able to fit something and wearing it Pic A can 'fit' brand but pic B can 'wear' it

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:41:32 2016 No.9283567

>>9283562
I mean, where I live they will at least Google the company for contact info and get suspicious if nothing comes up for that name, or if the details you gave are different. I do have jobs for small businesses 4-5 years ago where I can lie about how long I worked there, but that's because it was at a business that didn't keep good records and everyone I worked with moved on to other jobs and isn't available for references, which has actually caused me problems in the past with places I've applied not believing I'd ever worked there at all. I don't know any business-owners who could actively lie on my behalf, or have family businesses I can pretend to have worked at, and I don't think giving a random mobile number and saying it's the contact for a business with no online presence would fool anyone.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:41:41 2016 No.9283568

>>9283564
That's my point though. I feel like everyone in the lolita community is here to get in on some kind of drama except for the ones who actually do stay off line and just wear the clothes and don't take pictures. But that's such a small fraction of the fashion. Really. Everyone is guilty here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:42:55 2016 No.9283570 >>9283568 Please stop projecting. People posting pics of themselves online =/= only being in the fashion for drama. Yes, there are people like that, but it's definitely not everyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:43:09 2016 No.9283571 >>9283567 >put down a reference that was just an associate >don't list managers who still might be there they don't have anything to be suspicious of. I could've worked with anyone. You're over thinking it/don't know how to cover your ass properly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:44:11 2016 No.9283573 >>9283570 I didn't say only in it for the drama. It just comes with the territory. Quit nitpicking.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:47:54 2016 No.9283577

>>9283571
But that means you have to have an associate who is willing to lie on your behalf, and are assuming that the company doesn't keep any records. It's all very well if they call your associate for a reference and go "btw how long was X there", but if they then call that company's hiring department for the evidence of how long you worked there, which is standard procedure for a lot of hires, you're fucked. Also where I live they always want a manager for a reference, why the fuck would they accept a non-character reference from a random co-worker anyway?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:50:07 2016 No.9283580 File: 544 KB, 869x575, 1475731448447.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9281984

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 22:51:26 2016 No.9283581

>>9283577
I don't know but I've had no issues getting by this way. Like I said, where I live all they can ask is "how long did so and so work there?" and that's it. They can only get confirmation for it.

I have people who will lie on my behalf. I'm grateful for these people, trust me. Probably helps that I'd do the same for them.

I don't know what you're applying but are you filling out applications? Because that is very oldschool. I just give my resume to people. I don't waste time filling out forms that requirements.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:01:11 2016 No.9283594

>>9283581
Major businesses in this country will literally not accept resumes if you try to hand them in in person, they'll just tell you to apply online and that they don't take paper resumes. Chains dominate the high street and 95% of chains do not accept paper resumes at all.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:12:15 2016 No.9283613

>>9283594
I didn't hand my resume to anyone unless I was in an interview. Look, clearly we live in VERY different areas. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here but I reply to fucking craigslist ads usually with my resume and when I get a reply back, I go to an interview and then I get hired. I send out my resume to mass amounts of places too. I don't job hop like every six months but I have had quite a few jobs. One was at the fucking airport where they do all kinds of "fact checking" and want ten year history and shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:15:32 2016 No.9283621 >>9283558 well, i use 4chan more than other websites so i am a bit out of touch with what normal lolitas think, i guess

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:16:58 2016 No.9283625 >>9283621 Most people on here are. That's what is so annoying about this place. Like it would be so much better if people just.. had a more level head before typing something into a box.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:23:14 2016 No.9283636 I hate cringe threads. I'm kind of immune to it by now and I'm already a huge bitch irl. I'd rather see people complimenting each other to dethaw my frozen grinch heart, dammit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:26:11 2016 No.9283642 >>9282157 Honestly I looked her up to see what the fuss was about, and I just don't get it. She seems like a sweetheart. And she doesn't get into any drama, and that's brownie points in my book.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:30:57 2016 No.9283648

>>9283111

Kind of a sign of addiction if it's starting to affect your life that seriously. But that's none of my business. I hope you don't do heavy duty shit, because if you get into some accident being high at your job they'll drug test you for worker's comp.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:31:18 2016 No.9283649

>>9283560
>blue hair in a black and purple coordinate
>nitpick

Okay anon. Sorry you don't have an eye for color coordination. That blue hair brings down the otherwise perfectly fine coord. At least she styled her hair this time.

Also we are not just saying it's just her. Many lolitas do this shit she's just the point of reference in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:37:11 2016 No.9283657 >>9283649 >everything is fine but this one thing that's what nitpick is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:37:51 2016 No.9283658 I think that warm and cool toned browns can sometimes work together if done well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:39:33 2016 No.9283660 >>9283648 Thanks for the armchair but I'm not driving a forklift or delivering pizzas for a living. Calm yourself. Also yes, I know jobs drug test for on the job accidents.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:43:50 2016 No.9283664 >>9283657 Nit pick is "I would have gone for a different blouse" not " holy shit blue hair sticks out like a mother fucking beacon and goes with nothing"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 23:49:31 2016 No.9283671 >>9283636 same desu fampai

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 00:39:42 2016 No.9283715 File: 236 KB, 492x448, thanks gene.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9283664 No. It's one thing that doesn't fit with the rest. You're trying to mold the definition to fit your side of the argument. classic cgl.

Anonymous Sat Dec 10 05:14:40 2016 No.9283925
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>>9283715
Not that anon but nitpick is supposed to refer to a coord that's fine, but there are be a couple of little things about it that might've looked better when done differently. Note the word "little".
Nitpick isn't supposed to mean "Only ONE thing doesn't fit in with the rest, doesn't matter how hugely awful it looks, if it's ony ONE thing it has to be a nitpick and nothing else!".
That way people with a decent hairdo and legwear but wearing a horrifying Milanoo lace-monstrosity would only be nitpicks.
It's just not how it works, so please save yourself the effort of attempting to reply with meaningless ad hominems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 06:10:58 2016 No.9283974 >>9283925 Agreeing with this; nitpick is picking out insignificant aspects which doesn't really have anything to do with the outfit what so ever. IE everything is fantastic except that girl has bitten her nails so it makes it absolutely disgusting

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 09:15:17 2016 No.9284093 >>9283128 >pissed off that super sugary sweet OP socks in pastels don't match gothic h.Naoto coord OMG, u must be a trollll!!!1111

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 10:22:58 2016 No.9284138 >>9284093 >posting in a saged thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 14:52:37 2016 No.9284286 >>9281979 TOE BEANS TOE BEANS TOE BEANS

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 10 15:03:10 2016 No.9284291 >>9282254 THIS omg, I'll just laugh and hand em over to my supervisor the second anyone gets snappy with me, we don't take bullshit at my call center (I sell tickets for a popular ticketing company over the phone)

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