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Baroque goth-loli/Rococo punk historic coord general? Where's a good place to start? I have absolutely fell in love in the period and style.

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Sorry I don't have many pictures to start with. Lots of Reenactors though.

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>> No.9389394

I adore historic inspo coord too. You might have better luck searching "royal lolita" tho.

>> No.9389396

There's something about this picture that makes me feel really sad for the guys in it.

>> No.9389407

Guy in the back needs a better wig, that one doesn't suit him at all.

>> No.9389413

Who is the handsome man on the far right? He's like a dapper Jamie from Outlander.

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I beg to differ, it's fabulous.

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>> No.9389430

Holy shit I love these.

Why is there so much pink cupcake and so little of this out there?

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probably because it's more expensive and harder to pull off decently as well as being pretty damn impractical for daily wear, which is mad unfortunate

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>> No.9389490

What colorway of FA is this? I loved it as soon as I saw this pic of her but I can't figure out what color it is?

>> No.9389543

Pardon me, but just curious: I have seen a huge upswing in 18thC fashion interests, and this particular style of lolita lately. Any particular catalyst why?

For those not in the know, I work at an 18thC Living museum. Lots of lolitas come for photoshoots.

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>> No.9389680

Why must you hurt me?

>> No.9389690

Are there any good, not-tacky Marie Antoinette inspired coords? I'd love to see a really OTT one that doesn't look like shit.

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Hey /cgl/. My gf does historic loli like this and talked me into getting dressed for a tea party. Would it be inappropriate for me to wear a suitably fancy sword as part of the outfit she's making for me? Obvs going to be at a private party, and not in public. Just for fancy looks.

First time poster hope this thread is correct. Thanks!

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>> No.9389809

I feel like it would be a nice touch as long as your coord is more dandy or Aristocrat. What's your hair length? If you do a colonial style ponytail or braid, it would look even better.

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Ok, assuming that the venue and party is OK with it, it looks nice, you're not a sperg etc, I have advice for you, as someone who has to wear a sword around women in poofy skirts for a living: Don't. It is a monumental pain in the ass.

There is a reason there are countless macaroni prints (18thC satire comics) of men accidentally lifting or tearing skirts with their swords at dances or knocking over teapots. There is a reason that part of a boy's fencing lessons is how to walk and sit while wearing a sword. Taking it off is not an option either, from a safety standpoint of not having direct control at all times.

I know they look cool, but its just a liability in the end. My professional opinion.

Just out of curiosity though, is the pictured smallsword what you were planning on carrying? Its a pretty costume piece.

>> No.9389850

Just finally got long enough for a pony tail.

Thats all really good info for a tripfag. If I do still wear it do you have any pointers to wearing it safely? Pic is not mine, but similar to what I am looking at.

Got any pics of yourself? Bros in frills?

>> No.9389924

It's a replica of FA from yolanda.

>> No.9390003


I’d suggest practicing wearing the sword first before inflicting it on other people. It’s actually pretty bad when the clueless cosplayers just strap on a sword and then proceed to knock into other people with it all day long, you don’t really want to do this with girls wearing $300-dollar dresses who will throw a fit (or a fist) if you wreck their dresses.

Find/set up a cramped space, preferably with clutter that you can actually knock over . Then spend a day or two just wearing your sword and navigating it, trying not to knock things over. Figure out how to sit down, stand up, kneel/pick things up from the floor, etc, in that cluttered space. Invite your gf over and have tea, have her sit on your left (the side with the sword), then figure out how to reach for the sugar, pour tea, etc without accidentally poking her. Spend at least 3-5 hours per practice session, it’s very easy to keep your concentration for 10 minutes, but a tea party generally lasts a few hours, make sure you can keep attention on where your sword is for at least that long.

Historically, the higher your rank, the more other people give you space to move with the sword. But, it’s 2017 and you’re wearing it to a lolita tea party, not a re-enactment scene, so there’s going to be a fair number of girls crowding around not giving you space, hence the practice with cramped spaces. Usually you’ll find it easier to keep the sword as close to your leg as possible so it doesn't stick out or swing around knocking into other people/things.

On the note of cosplayers, you might get a little bitching for carrying a prop around (same kind of bitching we give to girls carrying scepters and giant cutlery). It’s nothing really big, and if you’re cute no one cares. Do run the idea by your gf first and see how she feels about it first, though.

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While I do like the occasional tea party, I just throw on what little nicer 18thC civilian clothes I got to be super honest. Most of my stuff is military uniform, which I have yet to try and incorporate.

>> No.9390008

Oh, and biggest question, what kind of hanger or belt do you expect to have?

All solid advice.

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when will this meme die

a sword with dandy would look ridiculous. ouji sure, aristocrat maybe. dandy, no fucking way.

>> No.9390314

Piss off

>> No.9390340

>good info for a tripfag

>not knowing who Gropey is

Your new is showing.

>> No.9390411

You are nothing like what I pictured you as. How tall are you? Just curious.

>> No.9390576

>guys who are into this look
Oh my frills~

>> No.9390653

I am new.

>> No.9390682

I'm a guy and I'm super envious of them. They look like they're having fun.

>> No.9390737

I've been lurking for four years and have never seen that trip before.

>not saying that for any reason other than who the hell is that guy

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As someone outside the fashion, I can understand the use of the word dandy in this case from a period point of view. You basically have three "Power levels" of male fashionista in the 18thC.

The first is level "dandy". A Dandy avoids laborious or strenuous activity that isn't of an amusing nature (such as yard games). The primp and preen constantly, and dress formally and fashionably at all times. If they were to go on a party hunt, they would be wearing a designer made hunting outfit and designer boots.

Next is the "fop". Fops tend to the somewhat prissy and stereotypical "noble" behaviour, and dress in a more feminine and gaudy manner. The fop is the one who's wearing his wig and embroidered coat to the hunting party.

Finally, we have the "macaroni", which refers to the avant-garde, over-the-top Italian styles that border on the ridiculous. The macaroni is the one wearing a two-foot tall powdered wig, silk stockings, a rhinestone studded coat, five pounds of makeup and platform shoes to the hunting party.

Pic is an accurate reproduction of an actually macaroni from the 1760s.

5'11" ish. Why?

Find yourself a fancy gentleman!

Come join us! We can fence, and play cards and drink tea.

You're not missing much. Don't worry.

>> No.9390789

when will this meme die

Well, it hasn't died since the late 18th century. So good luck.

>> No.9390851

Are you having a seizure?

>> No.9390858

He is always in the LARP thread and pops up whenever there are historical costuming threads. He knows his shit and he's been around forever.

>> No.9390861

Holy shit. I am in love with macaroni fashion now.


And clowning. He gave half of /cgl/ a clown fetish and dreams of joining the circus.

>> No.9390863

wasn't he the same guy who would give stage makeup tips in the shironuri thread, too? or am i thinking of someone else?

>> No.9390869

The photo is so shaky and blurry -> seizure.

>> No.9390878

Yup. He made a complete makeup on how to do perfect clown white years and years ago, and people still use it.

Or just a shitty pic.

>> No.9390886

Please look: >>9322411

>> No.9390892

Cool, thanks! I've never lurked the LARP threads so that would explain it.

>> No.9390901

Boystyle has been openly antagonistic about historic inspo male coords in my experience.

>> No.9390915

Calling lolita loli is what causes people to conflate it with fetish

>> No.9390935

This is obviously a thread full of new people. Correct politely, and try not to be a raging bitch.

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Old pic, and shitty old phone without image stabilizer. That, or I vibrate for your pleasure. Take your pick.

>I am in love with macaroni fashion now.
Were I not a man of uniform, and had I the personal means to afford such frivolities, I would certainly have a fine suit of a macaroni nature.

We call it larp thread, but it covers larp, historic recreation of all periods, SCA, renfests, historic martial arts, and prosthetic makeup.

>> No.9391010

Neat! How is that sword worn?

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Depending on the style of scabbard, either a strapped or paneled (as in the pic) sword belt, worn under the waistcoat.

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And straps/chains.

>> No.9391656



I learnt a new favorite thing today. Thank you!

>> No.9391773

>As someone outside the fashion, I can understand the use of the word dandy in this case from a period point of view
your infodump is appreciated, but in this case, the egl-communitu use of the term arose from a misinterpretation, a la kodona, to refer to a companion style for lolita fashion. when someone suggests "dandy" for an EGL meetup, they think they're suggesting a Japanese fashion, not a thriving global subculture that has 0 ties to lolita.

it needs to die as an empty term for male lolita-like jfash because people who use it alongside "aristocrat" and "ouji" (and god help us, "kodona") have no earthly clue what they're talking about

>> No.9391776

>confirmed for not even reading the thread

gull pls

>> No.9391841


I think we should ditch dandy and start calling it fopstyle or macaroni style.

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ouji is pretty macaroni already, without being conflated with a preexisting historic non-japanese non-lolita related fashion, desu

lolita has the worst name for a fashion and it doesn't get half the attempts at re-classification that ouji does. idgi

dumping baroque/rococo inspired ouji for OP

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>> No.9391923

>Ouji is just 21st century Macaroni.

This thread is trippy in a good way. I need to make an outfit and go to Gropeys museum now.

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>tfw ywn have a meetup at Gropey's
drawfags in the audience pls help our dreams take form

(also /ouG/ has had brief macaroni discussion in the past! the wigs, makeup, silly hats, it all fits.)

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You just gave me a trap card to play against my husband. There is no way for him to say no to dressing in coord if he gets to have a sword.

Can you suggest some decent swords for the ouji aristocrat look?

He's in Colonial Williamsburg right? Im in Maryland. We could totally get a meetup set up with Gropey as our special guest!

>> No.9392080

For a general out and about look, this idea is dumb, unless staging a photoshoot. You'd either look stupid for carrying a cheap plastic sword around with an expensive outfit, or get your backside hauled off by the cops for 'carrying bladed weaponry'. You don't need a sword to wear aristo. End of.

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>lolita has the worst name

Actually I think the Japanese tried Alice kei, but Alice Deco only lasted a bare handful of issues. The new Eternita magazine also bills itself as being for "adult Alices", so I guess you could support that. Or maybe we could just up and call ourselves Alices from here on out.

The Western side had Candy Violet calling her fashion Quaintrelle instead of lolita. She was kinda somewhat batshit, though.


No recs for the sword, just thought the LARPers might actually have a better idea where one can buy a pretty, fancy sword >>9374808

>> No.9392143

>isn't hostile
>still gets labeled as a raging bitch
okay anon

>> No.9392234

>saying "piss off" rather than explaining
>not being a raging bitch.

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You're welcome

Im down for macaroni style.

That coat doesn't look like it fits him.

I would totally be down for a get together. I get together with a little group occasionally for tea, lawn games, cards and other amusements. I even just polished my tea silvers.

>Dat pic
>Wearing Venetian breeches low at the calf

>Wearing Venetian breeches low at the calf
>Off the shelf oxford shirt
>Fucking Kmart loafers

I like the colors, idea and hat, but the execution is crap.

Not bad.

I want that coat. Good look over all.

>Can you suggest some decent swords for the ouji aristocrat look?

Firstly, whats your budget? Look to spend at least $120+shipping on a nice dress-only piece. Pieces of a more robust nature will cost more.

Secondly, brass or steel furniture? I would suggest to stick to various styles of 18thC smallswords, and avoid military designs. I can give links if desired.

>get your backside hauled off by the cops for 'carrying bladed weaponry'.

In Britbongistan, sure. In the US, any adult can legally open carry any length of blade anywhere that is not government property or private property that has a posted no weapon policy/you are requested to not carry.

Further, you get more leeway when dressed in clothing that can be mistaken for reenactment garb.

Its still an inconvenience though, from a practical standpoint.

>Actually I think the Japanese tried Alice kei, but Alice Deco only lasted a bare handful of issues. The new Eternita magazine also bills itself as being for "adult Alices", so I guess you could support that. Or maybe we could just up and call ourselves Alices from here on out.

>The Western side had Candy Violet calling her fashion Quaintrelle instead of lolita. She was kinda somewhat batshit, though.

I learned something today!

>> No.9392308

It depends on where you live. Where I am you can't carry knifes, let alone swords, concealed or not.

>> No.9392309

That wasn't me

>> No.9392311

Where do you live? Because again, in America, we may have a racist cheeto as president, but we can carry swords.

>> No.9392320

Not going to lie, I kind of love this name

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>> No.9392328

Which one

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Various European countries have different laws anon.

>> No.9392408

I know that. But I'm not stating which country, just that in my country blades carry isn't permitted.

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>tfw Gropey concrits Rococouji/macarouji

dude you're a bro

also let's just call lolita "oujo" already

>> No.9392428

Whatever happened to candy violet, anyway?

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also what's wrong with low-calf breeches? are they just supposed to be mid- or upper-calf?

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dunno about the coat but ships on your head is a very Court of Versailles touch

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How are you supposed to duel or defend yourself from brigands?!

>tfw Gropey concrits Rococouji/macarouji
Is that a good thing? Remember, im looking with an 18thC fashion eye.

>dude you're a bro

Its ok if you want to look like a child who's wearing his brother's hand-me-downs.

If the have a wide cuff, that cuff is to fit tight to the calf. If not, such as your pic and my pic here, itbus to be fitted at the knee. A man's muscular and shapely calf is downright sexy in 18thC fashion, showing he dances, rides horses and fences. It was such a big deal to the ladies, that padded calf falsies and special workouts were in vogue.

Excellent pic BTW.

Both of these are nice.

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>Is that a good thing?

kind of a fan of yours already so this is extra cool

i also like aspects of the 18th-century-style ouji more than the Victorian-style ouji so knowing better how to get that aesthetic is always appreciated

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one more before i hit the road, this thread is swell

>> No.9392477

>Excellent pic BTW.
also, that pic, this one >>9392476, and this one >>9391940 are all made by Kelsey of I Do Declare. get on her about making shit for Euro-sized men, she has a good eye for this aesthetic but her models are usually slim androgynes

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Im happy to answer any questions.

Also, the couple in the pic look cute.

I am shaped like a brick. Even working my pudge back off, I am a freaking rectangle with arms. I drive the tailors freaking insane at work.

I have no room to tell others how to fit clothes.

More inspo: Italian Carnival costumes are almost exclusively 18thC based.

>> No.9392584

I have learned so much. Great thread Gropalope.

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Baroque ouji for life. Victorian a shit. A. SHIT.

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Not my thread, I just like to babble about cravats

>> No.9392856

Bump? I want more 1700s fashion history.

>> No.9392884

Can you link a few cheaper swords? Looking good is more important than being tough. Im curious.

>> No.9392911


This is the 1st time I heard someone suggesting lolita be called oujo & I love it??????

Oujo + ouji styles

Can we finally take out the multiple unnecessary titles for the fashions? Please & thanks.

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What do you want to know?

Cheaper as in...?

I am on my phone, but I'll link a few IIn general, Deepeeka and and cold steel are the most readily available, and don't look like shit. Way too heavy and not suitable for anything other than being man-jewelry, but won't drive you to the poor house. The terms you're going to want to look for are "smallsword" and "Colichemarde".


Again, outsider, but I find rococouji and macarouji hilarious.

>> No.9393123

Maryland lolita here. Do you have email to share? Some of us want to come to the williamsburg museum in coord and meet you!

>> No.9393137

Ojou style describes a different thing already, though. Feminine, pastels & neutrals, slim fit, immaculate hair and makeup. The old money look.

I'm sad "KERAkko" (Kera magazine-style, close to synonymous with what people now call #jfash) never caught on in the West. It's very dated now that social media has beat out magazines, but was a good word for talking to people who wouldn't hear "lolita" well.

On more topic and speaking of old shit, does anyone remember a recurring (seasonal? yearly?) party in NYC with a rococo theme that was a big deal in the LJ days? Blasphemina's Closet did fashion shows there. If anyone else remembers or is better at Google than me, amazing coords came out of there.

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I want to jump that man and ride him off into the sunset.

>> No.9393148

Not Gropey, but a richmond lolita. Is this an open invitation?

>> No.9393162

...the other anon is talking about 皇女 oujo as a counterpart to 皇子 ouji, you are talking about お嬢様 ojou-sama fashion. Two entirely different things.

>> No.9393170

Oh yeah you're right lol

>> No.9393186

screwloosecircus AT gmail DOT com

I will make it known that it would be best scheduled on a day off rather than visiting me while working. If I am super pretty in dress uniform and have my hair styled and powdered, I am in the middle of some fancy program or with special guests.

90% of the time, I am going to be in some state of field uniform, covered in dirt and sweat, and smelling like gunpowder. I will also probably be yelling at people. I have lots of pics of me looking hot and disgruntled while yelling.

And while you do that, i'll steal his clothes! Teamwork!

>> No.9393245

Can I email you a picture of my coord? I don't want to get concrit in public.

>> No.9393256

I'd like to know where i can find a crown like this, preferably in a smaller version, in order to complete my baroque coord (with surface spell bourbon dynasty dress). I don't really want to get a tacky ass etsy or aliexpress crown.

>> No.9393829

Go for it.

Target, Spirit and PartyCity carried these during halloween, along with a bunch of other cool metal crowns and masquerade masks.

>> No.9393965

>Target, Spirit and PartyCity carried these during halloween, along with a bunch of other cool metal crowns and masquerade masks.
I'm french
I guess i'll search on ebay

>> No.9394125

Ma faute. Vous habitez dans un paroisse qui célebre le mardi gras? Il'est un grand événement ici dans la colonie Louisiane.

Tout le costumes est sule rabais maintenant!

>> No.9394219

Your French is terrible. Still love you anyways.

>> No.9394318

Its not French. Its Cajun. Its like inbred swamp french.

>> No.9394492

Where is a good place to get buckle shoes for men?

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all you rocolitas and macaroujis ITT will enjoy the costume porn in Beauty and the Beast

let's make 2017 the year we bring back curly, powdered wigs. think of the big sweet 'fros from the reign of OTT Sweet, but with a Rococo twist.

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>tfw Triple Fortune has already done this

because of course they have. and of course a google image search for"rococo punk" would lead to it.

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dear me, the combined powers of Triple Fortune/Brilliant Kingdom and Ali Project have sent me into a visual kei spiral

appropriate for thread?

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Mana-sama refuses to go for Baroque, he's a solidly Victorian kinda guy

>> No.9395066

I will never not swoon at this photo.

>> No.9395105

Fugawee, hands down. I have owned several pairs of their "Concord" rounded toe shoe, and im debating on ordering their new men's heeled fop shoe, the "Leslie".

Mind, buckles are seperate.


Im not excited for a bullshit meme remake where they cast a big ticket actress who can't sing. Still gonna see it, but only because I have free tickets.

The vast majority of Rococopunk is trash. Not even the good kind of punk trash, but just cheap and tacky.

>> No.9395208

You're kind of cute. I expected you to be more "gropey" looking.

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Gropey is a dapper fellow who had a few rounds in the Boystyle Hunger Games despite his lack of brand. cool tripfag imo

>> No.9395391

Im sorry?

Who needs brand, when you have custom tailored clothes?

>> No.9395430

What is this girl's name again? I remember she was a Russian Lolita, but she's moved on to strictly historical now, right?

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>> No.9395457

I love this suggestion. I think ojou fits the style much better than "lolita" ever has.

I quite like the looks in that pic, too, by the way. I'd quite happily join in on these kinds of events if I can wear more restrained historical costume as opposed to the usual foppish stuff that guys wear.

>> No.9395460

Thank you!

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the people in that pic are wearing common ouji style items, though Grandpa Adi is in stuff handmade by his partner. if you can style "restrained historical costume" in an ouji way, do it!

>as opposed to the usual foppish stuff that guys wear.
i don't know what guys you're even thinking of because it's so easy to find pics of rococouji--or even victoriouji(?) but that isn't relevant to this thread--that looks rather restrained.

pic related is one of Ikemen Mode's designs that they have been selling at cons. this is the brand begun by Grandpa Adi and his partner, mentioned above. it is designed by a longtime lolita who could never find ouji that fit her partner so she would just make it, and now they have this brand. it's really basic ouji stuff in basic colorways so far, and it is very similar to existing works by Japanese brands. it always confuses me when people think ouji is all pumpkin pants and mini hats; that style is a specific subset of sweet ouji. it is really common for Western oujis to be closer to 18th-century menswear than the cutesy anime boy doll style.

it really is not that uncommon, and it is easier to find ouji remniscent of 18th century fashion at contemporary meetups than it is to find lolita coords inspired by the same period. for ouji, right now, it's almost the default aesthetic.

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coord collage they made using one of their hats and miscellaneous major brand items

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ah, this is new, an actual image of their gilet. hopefully worn pics will come soon, given Gropey's critique of >>9391937 i am curious how these garments will fit when worn.

>> No.9395494

Oh, I was thinking it was supposed to be "ojou" as in the Japanese word for a young wealthy lady and liked that implication a lot. "Oujo" is effectively "princess," right? I guess that makes sense as a counterpart to ouji.

There are a lot of examples of what I was thinking of in this thread, pretty much anything with a lot of frills or pastel colors. I don't have any real involvement with the scene and the few Lolita events I've been around were devoid of men, so I've only seen what gets posted here on /cgl/.

I like the stuff you posted particularly >>9395485

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ah, i see. i was projecting other people's ouji assumptions onto you, sorry about that

Alice and the Pirates is a good brand to look into for this 18th century style. the Pirate angle of their brand tends to draw heavily from the period

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I'm not surprised to see a lot of cool AatP stuff, they've always been one of my favorite Lolita brands as well. (My ex was a "con lolita" and had a bunch of their stuff.)

I'm doubtful about whether I'd fit into much of their stuff, though, even if I was an unhealthy level of skinny. I was into VK and similar jfash back in the day, and even when I was showing ribs at 5'11" 130lb I just barely fit into size L jrock stuff. I'm trying to work my way down to 160 or so at the moment and I don't think my chances are good of wearing any Japanese brand stuff, even if it's male-specific ouji.

Do you think I could get away with using reenactment clothing like pic related for the stuff where size really matters, and dress it up with accessories, hats, shoes, etc. to make it more ouji? I feel like something toned down to a historical look fits my age (30) and face better, too.

>> No.9395600

For clarification, I have no idea who this man is nor do I care. My opinion is purely based on historic knowledge and personal taste. YMMV.

There is already no taper to the waist or curve bias to the breast, so like the last picture, the overcoat is going to hang of f his frame like an oversized tube.

I would also be warey of wearing actual medals, as that looks like a real award rather than a costume piece.

And again, using a modern fucking oxford shirt. Get a goddamn bloused shirt.

Beware of James Townsend products. They are overpriced for the quality.

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possibly, yeah. another thing tall dudes do is buy the vests and supplement the rest with off-brand. or if you are too broad for the men's size vests, some OTKs or a bag might help ground the coord in the realm of ouji rather than reenactment. basically, you do you, senpai. creativity shines brightest when you are under limits and constraints. stick a feather in your cap and be the prince you want to be!

also, you probably know this but Fan+Friend has some AatP dupes, and indie brands like the mentioned Ikemen Mode could also work. both these brands have a larger range of sizes than Japanese brands do.

you could also check out what technotropism does. he wears a lot of AatP but has to get creative with trousers and blouses at times. if your frame is similar to his you might be able to gauge which AatP items could fit you.

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>There is already no taper to the waist or curve bias to the breast, so like the last picture, the overcoat is going to hang of f his frame like an oversized tube.
since i imagine women are among their core buyers, this would be an especially problematic design flaw.

>pic unrelated, the thread just lacks femme macarouji

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more rococouji

>> No.9395624

>Beware of James Townsend products. They are overpriced for the quality.

Yeah, they seem like they would be, given the price and what they look like. I only used his site because I knew him from his youtube cooking channel.

I'd be more likely to get a pattern and make it myself, I can sew decently well as long as I don't try to do insane trims.

I'll check out some of that stuff, then. I was thinking that headwear, bag, etc could do a lot to make it less reenactor-ish.

I notice that a lot of the guys who I see in these pics tend to be pretty young and babyfaced, and that's part of why it's a bit of a struggle to envision things. I have the more mature and rugged kind of face, and look better with a beard - think of a low rent Jake Gyllenhaal and you're not too far off.

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>I notice that a lot of the guys who I see in these pics tend to be pretty young and babyfaced, and that's part of why it's a bit of a struggle to envision things
yeah, there's a lack of precedent, and people without pretty faces tend to A) be less inclined to share pics, and B) be less likely to have their pics saved and shared.

Isobe (CEO/designer, Baby/AatP) wears AatP's 18th-century style stuff to events, and has a squarer/maturer sort of face than one usually sees, but he is still Japanese. you could be the hero ouji-bros are waiting for, anon.

>> No.9395646

If you're like me, don't try to go for boyish. Aim for the look of a gentleman.

>> No.9396709

Digging that coat he in the pic. Got the original?

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I'll forever hate you bitches for bullying vivcore into closing. Yeah she was a lolcow but her dresses were amazing!

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>> No.9398253

You have a weird romanticized view of her store. She stopped doing lolita on her own, moved away from the fashion to pinup.

Her dresses weren't that amazing, hence the years and years of research situation.

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>> No.9398263

Well her dresses weren't amazing but she wasn't terrible compared to every other western brand at the time, and her quitting lolita was partially due to the backlash to that review, though I admit she handled it horribly and was very oversensitive.

I owned some of her candy violet clothing, she was my favorite of the western brands at the time.

>> No.9398268

She more or less dropped out of the lolita scene after the YEARS AND YEARS debacle, her shop started focusing on 1950s and old hollywood inspired fashion, she closed up shop when she moved with her husband and never re-opened. Now she sells pole dancing clothes and is a pole dancer. I think she got divorced too.

>> No.9398271

I'm still so pissed I missed this on Lacemarket. It think it sold for like $40.

>> No.9398273

I may have found a relatively cheap source of pre-made chemise a la reine dresses ($80-$100 each depending on your size). I ordered one, should be here in about 3 weeks, would anyone be interested in a review?

>> No.9398274

Please, help me as new anon, what's this called?

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>> No.9398287

Yes please!

>> No.9398374

I want this dress ahhh

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more visual kei Rococo

sorry i am not enough of a creep to have kept it beyond its usefulness in a forum game :(

the brand is Fan+Friend if you want to start there when lolibrary returns

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Holy crap, this thread is still going.

My gf has given honest thought to making a bunch of nice cotton 18thC basic shirts and cravats in western sizes to sell at cons, but I doubt she'd make booth money back.

Its a heinous and amature design flaw.

Reconstructing History is my go-to for patterns

She's cute, and the outerwear and hat are good, but the short sleeves ruin it for me.


Hard to tell from that pic, but his waist coat is ok, though is shirt leave so much to be desired. Why isnt it fitted at the collar? It looks like he has a bunch of limp toilet paper at his chest.

Wool velvet with gold silk lining. I miss that coat.


>> No.9399981

>at cons
yeah, not for anime cons. a webstore with visits to steampunk and lolita cons may work better

>> No.9400010

We do not talk about that filth.

>lolita cons
I have never seen a lolita specific con in my life. Gaming, tabletop, anime, etc, but never a specific lolita con.

More usually, most "anime" or "gaming" cons, tend to merge together a mix of general nerdity, with vidya gaming, tabletop, lolita, anime, larp and all that at once, with panels to match.

>> No.9400014

Please don't get this dress, anon. I owned it at one point, and the fabric quality was so shit that I sold it almost immediately.

>> No.9400216

>We do not talk about that filth.
money is dirty bro, you won't get anywhere by playing it clean

non-fashion-specific cons are unlikely to get your gf any profit if she only does quality 18thC blouses, most attendees are broke or young or only interested in fandom merch. a con like RuffleCon might be up her alley more, but diversifying the product would still be recommended

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>> No.9400365

Im just not interested in merchanting at all.

And death to cogfop.

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>> No.9401268

Anyone have a styling guide or a source to buy tall wigs like this?

>> No.9401360

that image is from a tutorial for making a nicer 18th century wig out of a costume wig, maybe it would help!


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Im so happy this thread is still up! I am in love with mixing history and lolita now.

Can we talk tea? Whats your favorite? Any guides to hosting? Do you have a tea set? What do you have and do aside from tea?

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>Whats your favorite?
Pick related. Its a mild Bergamot Pekoe. I prefer it with a dash of rose water, white sugar and cream.

>Any guides to hosting?
Amazingly, no. I really should look some up.

>Do you have a tea set?
Yup, and a full silver tray serving to go with it.

>What do you have and do aside from tea?
Depends. If its just tea, then cookies, cream puffs and dried fruit/nuts are the order, though an ajoinment offering of hummus or cheese and crackers may be on the table. If its a luncheon tea, then the sky is the limit.

As for the "do" part, a game of cards is always welcome. I'd love to have a poetry reading or music recital.

>> No.9402458

>rose water

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Has to be the film version of Amadeus for me. It's so wonderfully 80's that it almost seems right for the Rococo vibe. I recently bought some volumes of 'Patterns of Fashion' - they translate insanely well for Lolita clothing

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>a man who is into historical fashion as much as I am

>> No.9402938

He has a girlfriend. Shes fat.

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I think AP and Baby both releasing this many poofmonsters this/last year might be a factor as well -- most of the dresses look more at home in a historical setting than a candy store/graveyard, so with all the girls that bought these dresses, makes sense to schedule some photo opportunities at a place where the background fits the dress.

>> No.9403096

So this is a long shot, but do you think it's possible to find regency (or other eras I suppose) *inspired* maxi dresses suitable for summer without going full-blown reenactment? I just want to look elegant and cover my legs in the summer without dying of heat stroke in the desert.

>> No.9403295

One of my favorite movies, with amazing costuming, if a super inaccurate story.

Maybe. Have you read any works by the Marquis du Sade?

Im fat, and we're workout/fencing partners as well, both working together to lose weight.

And you're a cunt.

I can't wait to see the explosion in the fashion that happens after Harlots premiers on hulu

>> No.9403333

I like you and your advanced knowledge of men's fashion, which is one of my favorite things.

>Lolita has the worst name...
I've been assuming it refers to the length of the skirt. Young girls were meant to wear knee length skirts, Teens/ young women wore 3/4 skirts, and married women/women of a certain age wore full length skirts. Anything else was considered scandalous back in the day.

Let's just start doing that and make it a thing.

>> No.9403712

>Have you read any works by the Marquis du Sade?

I've seen the movie... Im guessing you're into kink? If you wear that leather coat...

>> No.9404351

>regency (or other eras
get thee to another thread, there is enough material for different threads focused on different eras. no need to derail.

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bunch of shit i somehow didn't already post incoming

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>AatP in charge of making it a fashion, not a costume

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not sure what Fidel David's coord (on the left) fits most into, as far as historic inspo goes. some of his ouji designs feel a bit early Baroque, which is unusual but still relevant to the thread. not a common era of design inspo for ouji, for sure

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back to 18thC

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>> No.9404429

Is it weird that I have no interest in this style, but I am dying to hear what Gropalope has to say about these coords?

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not weird at all

thanks for the (You)s

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same ouji years and years later at the Ikeda Riyoko exhibit. this pic is just for the aesthetic, and for how it illustrates the relationship between the Rose of Versailles and lolita (but particularly ouji) fashion.

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front view. to show an old-ass coord and not provide a recent one felt unfair to Door-chan

>> No.9404480

>I like you and your advanced knowledge of men's fashion, which is one of my favorite things.


>Let's just start doing that and make it a thing.
Seeing as I had literally had no preexisting knowledge of a name for this, I approve.

Quills? Yes, and sure.

Early regency is 1795+. Its should be fine.

I'd have to see it worn, but it looks good.

Not bad, but those baggy pants ruin it.

Blech. Looks like closet cosplay.

Both look cheap looking in general in both fabric and construction. The white lacks any good definition and the breeches look like poorly tailored underwear due to the crotch pull. Black and red needs a date with iron and some sort of texture.

...How is this historic influenced at all? Looks less baroque, and more like a hot topic employee going to a Dresden Doll concert.


The whole bat ears and nose paint make it a little goofy, and I can't judge the clothes too well with how washed out and over exposed the pic is.

At the risk of pissing off gulls, this is the worst in my eyes. NOTHING these guys wear fits them, and it looks cheap and chincy. Every accessory looks thrown on without care, and cluttered as fuck. This is the worst kind of "rococco punk" bullshit.

Not terrible, but as said before, the baggy slacks ruin it.

Not bad.

Nice. A little tailoring to the breeches and maybe some gloves, and he's set.

Yes. Its weird. You're weird.

FUCKING. MODERN. SLACKS. Would be great otherwise.


Pretty good.

Swap the pants for breeches, do something with the hair (que or curl) and add a good hat to balance the fivehead and make this good.


PUGGILLY PUG PUG /10. Cannot see enough of the clothes to comment.

Everything but the boots is good. The chunky/round toe just robs the militant feel.

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yo bro thanks, you're a bro among bros

but the OP did specify Baroque and Rococo, and i have a lot of Regency and Victorian, enough to give fodder for a new thread. even including something Baroque-ish like pic related makes the topic feel dizzyingly broad, because it starts to encroach on that Jacobean/Renaissance flavor

but i am not a mod sooo

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the thanks was for your commentary btw, not a sarcasm thing. i am sometimes reserved with praise. do appreciate your efforts

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>> No.9404515

Please don't use such foul language in good company.

...Is that dude wearing fucking embroidered slops? Jesus goddamn christ....

>the thanks was for your commentary btw, not a sarcasm thing
No prob, not that I would care if it was sarcasm. I am just giving my two guineas.

This guy drives me fucking insane. If he's making it, he has the skills to sew, and is using decent material, but he insists on baggy ass tubes for his outerwear. What the fuck is going on at the back of his shoulders?! Why isn't it following the slope of the small of his back? Why are his epaulets caddywumpus as shit?


Could use some more accessories or texture, but over all very good.

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more Ikemen Tube 4 u
more Ikemen Mode just for you

>> No.9404526

So who exactly is this dude?

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>when your keyboard fucks up so bad you retype your shitpost as something less shitposty and it turns out both get posted

one last tube

>> No.9404530

Except that is much less tubish, and the fuller, blousey sleeves and breeches help fill out.

>> No.9404532

Grandpa Ouji to /ouG/, Adel or Adi of Ikemen Mode (ouji brand) to the rest of the internet. his partner, Sheri, makes/designs the stuff. i am unsure to what extent he is involved in the design process.

this >>9404527 is the only coord i have found of someone else wearing the brand

>> No.9404535

Then why the hell is he wearing unfitted tubes, modern dress shirts and glorified capri shorts!?

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continuing dump

i imagine those aspects must be his personal taste, with Sheri opting for a better fit for the items that get produced for a general audience. it seems consistent across the things she makes for him (including non-Rococo stuff off topic to the thread), but is not an aspect of what she makes for others.

the mystery endures

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dislike the filters on this, finding gothic historic-inspired drawing inspo from outside the 19th and 20th centuries is difficult to find

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Mar has a kind of kawaii Ben Franklin vibe here

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Maybe a banyan coat would suit him better in his advanced age and comfort.

Pic is good.

Acceptable. Needs headwear.

Looks unfinished.

Very gothic-horror. I approve.

Ehhhh.... The waistcoat and stockings are a little clashy and could use more coordination.


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>banyan coat
fucking need one with a gothic print

looks comfy and swooshy as fuck

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beautiful gothic example here imo, too bad black on black is pita to photograph

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Banyans are literally Orientalism at its purist, originating from Chinese and Japanese robes. Super comfy.

Not bad but for the pants. Dude in >>9404568 looks like the vampire >>9404550 is hunting.

Lefty looks like trash in a tshirt. Lefty isn't bad.

Very good. Love the velvet coat. Should have adjusted septum ring.

Looks good, except the cheap crown.

Very good! I like this one these.

Not bad but for wearing the breeches cuffs too low. A profile shot would help know the fit.

Very well done coat and waistcoat. Would benefit from angle-cut sleeves over straight tubes . Can't tell anything about his pants and his boots look very rubber like

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would sell my mother for this coat

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yo which Lefty is which

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dislike this blonde wig and lack of headwear but dig the basic outfit

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>> No.9404615

Sorry. Dude in white on the right looks passing.

Current picture looks like ass.

I can dig it. Maybe he'd be able to afford better skulls.

I approve.

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could not find a full coord shot of this one, an alternate coord by Ship-head from upthread. i appreciate the level of detail and the eye makeup. a lot of fancy male rococouji skips the makeup, which is a tragedy, especially if you go OTT with the frills and accessories

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this minihat destroys the attempt but the patterned vest and textured jacket deserve a nod

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>the pattern is cats

well i rescind that statement.

shield your eyes for some shirococouji

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dislike short shorts with this look (and most ouji), but love what she does with texture and color

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>Gropey senpai complimented my coord
I am more pleased than I thought I'd be.

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stopping here with an old Buttcape pirate coord because we approach image limit and i am sleepy

give me a hint which one pls

>> No.9404872

it's one of my favourites too, got my husband to watch it with me recently and he's slowly creeping into 18th century style, mwahaha
>du Sade
fuck yeah, I'm writing my dissertation on sexuality within fictional Vampires, could hardly ignore the influence du Sade had on Vampire literature!
I'll go grab the whips and furs.

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>> No.9405276

>DE Sade
The typos are catching!
I don't know if Sade translates poorly or just writes poorly but I couldn't enjoy 200+ pages of repetitive, stilted scenes of children pooping on a consecrated host or whatever. Good outfit inspos at least?

>> No.9405287

OOH! OOH! I know this from french class!
Gropey is a native Cajun speaker, and in informal speech, De is replaced with du, and du with do.

>> No.9405507

Anon, if you're still around could you start such threads? I don't have anything to offer or I would

>> No.9405515

That's Sacher-Masoch, but you were close. I've actually never read Sade's work. In other news, I adore the outfits in this thread.

>> No.9405690

Overall good, but the random costume jewelry chains and watch lanyards are distracting. Maybe if they were higher quality and uniform.

Cool, but hate the boots with giant fuckoff grommets

Thats way more early 20thC than anything 18thC. Doesn't fit in here.

Shitty, over exposed photo ruins any attempts at actually making out the details.


FUCK YEAH. This is awesome. Just needs a hat.

>Gropey senpai
Im sorry.


>got my husband to watch it with me recently and he's slowly creeping into 18th century style, mwahaha


This is classy.

It doesn't translate well, and some work was most certainly phoned in for a quick royalty check. I highly suggest powering through it, as some of his work is amazing if you're into extreme kink or guro.

That is correct, but still just a fancy way of saying "I learned inbred swamp french".

Was never a fan of his work. If you want to get into the Marquis' writings, I highly suggest the Grove Press anthologies, translated by Richard Seaver and Austryn Wainhouse.

>> No.9405967

>Im sorry

>> No.9406115

'cause he's only a man,
do what he can.

>> No.9406202

Do you dance? I need to know for reasons.

>> No.9406682

...We can dance if you want to....

But serriously, dancing is awesome. Folk, ballroom and some latin.

>> No.9406698


>> No.9406723


I want to hear more details about your hatred for steampunk.

>I like rants too much to be healthy

>> No.9406760


Kawaii Ben Franklin is the perfect way to describe this and I feel the strong urge to petition for more Kawaii old pervert best freedom Grandpa.

>> No.9406763

>...We can dance if you want to....
We can leave your friends behind-
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT GROPEY. Thats going to be stuck in my head for the rest of the day!

>> No.9406779

I am not good enough to be anyone's senpai.

When most people talk steampunk, they typically mean science fiction psuedo-Victorian/Edwardian, when in reality, the genera is both widely populated and nebulous with lots of crossover. For the sake of this conversation, we'll keep it narrowed to the psuedo-Victorian/Edwardian mishmash that defines the public image.

This cultural and technological timeframe is heavily involved in the name itself. STEAM refers to the rapid advancement of technology to the point of insanity, with industrialization and change for their own sake, and with little regard to risk involved or research. Unrestrained science and industry, both fantastic and horrifying. Mass produced sulfa antibiotics, at the same time a heroine based baby soothing tonic. etc.

PUNK refers to the social climate. It is the last death throes of classicism as the rule, but not without being taken to extremes. The unrestrained development of technology and war can make and lose fortunes in a night. Upward mobility and falling from grace is not the rarity it was before. For newcomers to reach the levels of the uppercrust, and for the nobles to stay noble, the now industrially supercharged beast of society my be fed through colonial expansion for resources, and increased oppression of those below you to stay on top. The lines of class were both blurring and being cut deeper, and this causes upheaval and revolt. Everyone wants a piece of the pie.

That all sounds really cool, yeah?

99% of "Steampunk" has NONE OF THAT. Its just sepia tones, vintage store bowlers, and hot gluing your grandpa's antique watch from the Great war onto a cheap pair of spraypainted welding goggles. As a fashion, its mishmash bullshit of every modern time period, and nothing looks like it has any aesthetic thought put into it. There is no culture. There is no thought. It is hollow and meaningless as a genre and as a fashion.

Fuck steampunk.

You're welcome.

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Excellent rant, 10/10. Have you by any chance read the "gaslamp fantasy" webcomic/novels Girl Genius? They've got some neat costuming ideas.

>> No.9406805

Never read it. I hate Foglio's art style and "lolrandumb" steampunk humour.

>> No.9406810


The art style is a bit unusual, but I haven't noticed much lolrandumb humor except for a few gags in the background. That was more with their Buck Goodot series.

>> No.9406825

what >>9404532 said, he also just goes to most if not all the popular US / some euro Lolita conventions. There are a lot of pictures of him because he is one of the very few non-creepy older men in the fashion.

You could always take his place Gropey, he's really your only competition.

>> No.9406834

I'm still gonna pass. Its not my bag.

>You could always take his place
I'm too young and proud to be a creep.

>he's really your only competition
I wasn't aware I was competing for anything...

>> No.9406836


Fair enough

>> No.9406868

You're no creeper. All the gulls who met you said you're sweet.

>> No.9406871

>he is one of the very few non-creepy older men in the fashion.
he is also well-mannered and confident. men ITT take note. we can all be like Grandpa Ouji one day. avoid tubular construction and you will be ahead of the game

>> No.9407055

If you lived closer, we'd be dating. This is fact.

>> No.9407172

D'aww thanks.

Learn to dance, read some poetry, don't be a thirsty sack of fuck and carry a clean handkerchief.

While I am sure you are sweet and awesome, there is only one girl I met on /cgl/ that I am 100% that I would date.

>> No.9407176

oh thank jesus im not the only one. my bf is lowkey into steampunk and loves that comic.
the story is tolerable without the art though. had an old coworker lend me one of the novels.

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approaching image cap but could not hold back from posting this

>> No.9407280

>but why those socks though
In general I like her coords but there's always something a little off about them to me.

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Girl Genius anon here, I've heard the novels aren't that well written? Like the plot is nice and intricate but the sentence structure reads like a very YA novel. Can you confirm if I should check it out or not?

It took me a while to get used to the art style and now I'm onboard with it purely for the plot. They'll keep stuff hinted at for years before they pull a big reveal, and I'm digging the aristocratic Paris arc right now.

>> No.9407494

Please take it to a steampunk thread. You're wasting rococcouji image limit.

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Bring Back OTT Male Makeup

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we're gonna need a bigger thread

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Someone awesome. The kind of person who would drive overnight from a state away to bring me an abandoned baby Rosie Tailed Boa that got abandoned at her animal shelter.

>Bring Back OTT Male Makeup
You call that over the top? Do you even Prince Poppycock? He's everyone's favorite opera singing, dragshow macaroni! https://youtu.be/GyFT4LCjk0w

If someone makes a new one, I will provide historic pics and smug historic criticism.

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>> No.9412775

I hate being corny but Marie Antoinette 2006 came out around the same time I got into Lolita, and it was like love at first sight. The pastel color palette, the unabashed femininity and light colors, the flamboyance of it all spoke to me deeply. I know the dresses in this film are not the most accurate, but I still admire them.

>> No.9413794

Not corny at all. It was a gorgeous movie.

On a related not, just watched the first episode of Harlots on Hulu, and I am disappointed.

>> No.9415522

>Marie Antoinette 2006
Same desu.

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