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[Lolita General - Mana's Back E(...) No.9521280]

Old thread: >>9515524

Current thread is an embarrassment.

Last time on Lolita General:

>RoseMarie Seior and why they're invited to brand events
>Favourite lolita models
>Ouji + RHS
>Haggling on Japanese sites
>Old AP releases vs New AP releases
>Casual lolita vs otome vs soft lolita
>AP's Sweet Bakery
>Is AP ripping off Meta?
>Moitie releasing Neo Gothic Arch

[Anonymous No.9521283]

>>9521280
>title in the name box
both threads are an embarrassment

[Anonymous No.9521293]

Are there any lolita channels that are actually interesting or informative?

[Anonymous No.9521417]

>>9521293
Sadly, i feel like anything that's informative is only for noobs, and if you actually are a lolita there really isn't that much info out there.

[Anonymous No.9521470]

>>9515839
If you're talking about The Tea Party Club and Street Fashion Europe when you ask why RoseMarie Seoir get invited to lolita events, it's because Ayumi has a good relationship with the organisers. Plus she's really sweet in person and a lot of these events are officially jfash-related events and have other non-lolita vendors (e.g. TPC had a vendor selling plushies last year and SFE has fairy kei vendors).

I don't like RoseMarie Seoir either but their stuff is popular - they only take up one vendor table and sells a ton of stuff every year so it wouldn't make economic sense for them to drop her. Sometimes I wonder if Ayumi pays her own expenses, she shows up so often.

[Anonymous No.9521967]

>>9521824
I tried with info from my friends book but Idk what I did wrong. I'm awful with this kind of stuff. I didn't find scans of that book anywhere tho.

[Anonymous No.9522041]

>>9521280
has anyone received any answer from IW?

6 days since my order, and nothing

[Anonymous No.9522044]

>>9522041
Aren't they usually slow?

[Anonymous No.9522046]

>>9522041
7 days and counting. Here's hoping for both of us, anon

[Anonymous No.9522047]

>>9521280
You are an embarassment for not even making a proper thread.

[Anonymous No.9522048]

>>9522041
Six days isn't very long to wait, especially since they just had a sale which makes order processing slower.

[Anonymous No.9522066]

>>9522047
This is still the superior lolita general. The latest one doesn't have a summary of the old thread.

[Anonymous No.9522075]

>>9522066
>This is still the superior lolita general. The latest one doesn't have a summary of the old thread.

When did this even become a thing?
There is no rule a generel has to include anything like that. I remember last year people were linking many other threads like the BST or Taobao thread in the OP and people complained when this was forgotten. But this practice didn't last long and the bullshit summary thing will also be soon forgotten. At least linking other threads made sense, but who needs a fucking summary. New thread, new rules.

[Anonymous No.9522080]

>>9522075
I know, but this is the right thread

[Anonymous No.9522082]

>>9522080
There is no such thing as a right or wrong thread on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.9522083]

>>9521417
I'm interested in discussion about trends and things that have influenced lolita.

I remember someone used to blog about reading GLBs. that was pretty interesting for people who already know everything about lolita because she talked about the differences between issues and stuff.

[Anonymous No.9522086]

>>9522082
There is tough.. on other boards the other lolita generals would've been deleted by now. This one was made first when the previous thread went into autosage, therefor it's the right one.

[Anonymous No.9522089]

>>9522086
other boards don't even have that 'there can only be one general' or 'don't make a new thread for this' thing going on. This is not how this works. The people decide which thread to use and the other one will simply be archived.

[Anonymous No.9522092]

>>9522041
I got my answer the next day, but it was only to tell me that my order was sold out, so if you haven't heard anything yet, then they've probably got your order on queue and you'll be fine. The longest I've ever had to wait was almost three weeks.

[Anonymous No.9522094]

>>9522089
Oh is that why there are 5 fr on int and 5 metal on mu?

[Anonymous No.9522164]

>tfw spent hours trying to find measurements for mystery dress and someone bought it while I was researching

I hope it was a fellow oldschool gull who enjoys it.

[Anonymous No.9522184]

Why cant mana speak :/

[Anonymous No.9522210]

>>9522184
Because his voice is fucking deep as hell and it ruins the illusion. He has been recorded speaking from waaaay earlier in his career (like the 90s), but when his fame started to build, they got the "interpreter" gimmick going. I don't think anyone has caught his voice on record since then.

[Anonymous No.9522232]

>>9522184
His voice is too heavenly to be heard by filthy mortals.

[Anonymous No.9522285]

I want the neo Gothic Arch print but I can't decide on a cut. They're all nice.

[Anonymous No.9522301]

Fresh from RC.

[Anonymous No.9522306]

>>9522301
Where is she from?

[Anonymous No.9522307]

>>9522301
>I'm not a large lady by any means
>I have an 84cm waist
>84cm waist
>not a large lady

Somehow this is not adding up.

[Anonymous No.9522311]

>>9522307
You're just uncurvy and unnatural~

[Anonymous No.9522312]

>>9522311
I know you're being sarcastic but it's frightening for me that someone with a waist only 2cm less than my bust considers theirself a normal size when i feel fat. People that delusional scare me.

[Anonymous No.9522319]

>>9522301
Really hope this is a troll post. I'm judging the people who liked/hearted it.

[Anonymous No.9522335]

>>9522285
I would kill for a hybrid cut, like the crossed-over lace on the waistline from the OP with a JSK cut. I don't like short-sleeved OPs and the JSK is so plain...

[Anonymous No.9522361]

>>9522285
I don't like any of the cuts and I'm probably too fat. Do you think a 92 cm bust would fit the jsk?

[Anonymous No.9522392]

>>9522312
lol same, it's so weird to me how people like that consider themselves 'curvy' when actually they're more like one big blob up and down, and don't realise that no matter what flattering terminology they come up with, they're just fat. She didn't mention anything about being too tall for lolita so I doubt she's some amazon for who an 84cm waist would only be slightly chub.
>hint: if the 'curve' at your waistline is convex instead of concave, you're not actually curvy

[Anonymous No.9522518]

Are there any prints similar to daydream bed but on a skirt?

[Anonymous No.9523368]

Remember when people at Omnia Vanitas complained about Victorian Maiden's sizing? They just made a fully shirred skirt with 'sleeves' you can adjust, and I bet none of those wankers is going to buy it.

[Anonymous No.9523370]

Remember when people at Omnia Vanitas complained about Victorian Maiden's sizing? They just made a fully shirred skirt with 'sleeves' you can adjust, and I bet none of those wankers is going to buy it.

[Anonymous No.9523371]

>>9523370

[Anonymous No.9523372]

>>9523370
Of course not, they want a Tardis dress that gives them that slender A-line small torso'd cut yet still fits around their wide girth. A dress that stretches to their actual measurements won't give them that aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.9523525]

Do any of you go to crystal cafe?

[Anonymous No.9523529]

>>9523370
>>9523371
Never been to Omnia Vanitas and I appreciate VM's willingness to expand their sizing but... this is kind of ugly. Personally I'd just be happy with wider shoulder sizing for VM's pieces, even if only by a cm or two.

[Anonymous No.9523530]

>>9523370
Nah people just like the feeling of moral superiority they get for confronting a "skinny bitch" brand about their "size oppression". I doubt most of the people who complained would actually buy VM even if it fit them.

[Anonymous No.9523539]

>>9523530
The sad thing is they actually asked the designer directly to change the sizing at that event

>>9523529
I think it's pretty but I never wear anything so long.

[Anonymous No.9524721]

>>9522307
Her waist is as big as my bust and I wear a G cup.

[Anonymous No.9524893]

>>9524721
How, unless you're 5' tall and have a proportionally small ribcage? I'm a 28F at 5'4", which is an unusually small band size, and that's still 86-87cm bust.

[Anonymous No.9525044]

>>9524893
She's probably being really projected. I measure 35" in the bust, and a 29 underbust, which theoretically puts me in a 30E. But I'm super projected, so I end up wearing a 30FF instead. I quadboob like WOAH out of a 30F or E.

[Anonymous No.9526756]

>>9524893
>>9525044
I'm 159cm tall (just under 5'3")
I have a 32G bra size

[Anonymous No.9526790]

>>9522392
Nayrt or OP, but I'm over 170cm and have an 80ish cm waist. I have a bit of stomach flab because i'm lazy (I also tend to bloat badly so that doesn't help), but I don't by any means look fat.

I'm assuming if they really don't think they look fat then they're tall as well? otherwise yeah, delusional.

[Anonymous No.9526888]

Why does cgl act like they're the lolita police?
Lolita has no rules

[Anonymous No.9526892]

>>9526888
>lolita has no rules

[Anonymous No.9526894]

>>9526892
Like I know it has to look a certain way to be lolita but y'all need to chill

[Anonymous No.9526914]

So...which lolita gen is the true one? We have like three

[Anonymous No.9526918]

>>9526790
I'm ~170cm and my waist is nowhere near 80cm. I have to think you're lying about not looking fat?

[Anonymous No.9526926]

>>9526756
>159cm tall
>81+cm band size
gurl

[Anonymous No.9526953]

>>9526918
They said stomach flab, so yea they're overweight for sure if their waist is near 80cm and they're female. 175cm tall here with 64cm waist. Even my BF that has a slight gut and is 178cm has a 77cm waist.

[Anonymous No.9526960]

>>9526914
This one was made first

[Anonymous No.9526964]

>>9526953
>80cm waist means fatty!!
>My 64cm waist is fine at 5'8"

God please we cannot turn another general into a fucking argument over who's a fat fuck and who's a skinny bitch it makes this entire board look retarded

[Anonymous No.9526966]

>>9526953
>175cm tall here with 64cm waist.
>this is healthy and very normal
I'm 173 cm tall and my waist is only ever that small when I weigh under 49 kgs. Which is often because I'm ana-chan but pls don't pretend this is normal

Sage for anachan pretending she's a healthy human being and implying everyone should aspire to be just like her

[Anonymous No.9526989]

>>9526966
You know people can hold their weight differently, right? Stop assuming people are anorexic.

[Anonymous No.9527011]

>>9522518
Cut up the dress

[Anonymous No.9527020]

>>9527011
I probably will

[Anonymous No.9527022]

>>9526964
>>9526966
Jesus christ, I'm well into the healthy bmi you fatty fats. I find it hard to believe someone my height who admits they have stomach flab at 80cm waist isn't 170lbs+

[Anonymous No.9527219]

>>9523539
I've seen that shit a lot at lolita panels. Usually it's non-lolitas at the convention doing it, who don't know any better, so for that to happen at a lolita-specific event is extra tacking.

[Anonymous No.9527225]

>>9527022
I only ever said that we don't need this thread to turn into a skelly vs fatty thread again can't we just accept that some pieces are made to flatter different body types and move on

[Anonymous No.9527293]

WAIST CHAN IS HERE
This became a meme?

[Anonymous No.9527617]

>>9526953
OP, never said I was thin, just not fat/visibly really overweight. Not trying to derail, just wanted to provide some perspective. Like my waist etc. is all visible/not just a blob, though I'd love to lose some weight and get a flat stomach again, as well as drop some on my thighs.

I have very wideset hips (every woman on my mum's side does) and honestly, my waist was probably about 70ishcm when I was at a good weight.
But yeah, everybody carries weight differently and it's ridiculous to assign one perfect measurement for the variety of body types out there.
>>9526953
By the sounds of it we have very different body types anyway! I'd love to have my waist be that small one day for old school skirts. (though without a corset I can't ever see it happening)

[Anonymous No.9527633]

I know Maxicimam isn't the best but they have really outdone themselves here. It looks like babby's first handmade coord. Is wa lolita becoming trendy again or is it coincidence?

Sorry for low quality topic but I'm trying to move on from the weight watchers posts. No one cares how big or small you are and this happens every thread jfc.

[Anonymous No.9527656]

>>9527633
Yeah, this isn't working for me. The socks that come with it are cute though.

Shame, because I love a lot of what MAM puts out.

[Anonymous No.9527661]

>>9523370
Never been to Omnia Vanitas either, but a gathered rectangle with no print is not a big deal. You do not need to buy brand new full price burando to get this kind of garment.

[Anonymous No.9527673]

>>9527633
How did they get it so wrong? Maybe with the popularity of meta's recent wa lolita series they thought they'd try cashing in on it too...but ouch, what a waste of fabric.

[Anonymous No.9527683]

>>9527633
>>9527656
You guys really need to understand MaM is kind of baby's first lolita or kind of like the weeby impression of lolita. It's not really for "us". I know a million con friends that'd snatch this up in a heartbeat, though.

[Anonymous No.9527684]

>>9527661
You can say that about everything in lolita

[Anonymous No.9527687]

>>9527683
That said, I fucking love their old style of parasol handles. Do they still make those cool curlique ones?

[Anonymous No.9527727]

>>9527661
Do you know what VM normally looks like? What did you expect?

[Anonymous No.9527734]

>>9527683
Debateable. They have a lot of stuff that fits really well for an old-school look. And as someone who loves design elements way more than prints, I find a lot of their shit fits my tastes better than the non-stop print brigade of all the other main brands.
However, I also love Putumayo, so I guess that kind of thing is just to my taste.

[Anonymous No.9527738]

>>9523370
I get so embarrassed when people angrily complain about fit on either end of the spectrum as if the brand is 3v1l and excluding them on purpose. Either brands hate fattychans or they cater to fattychans too much with sack dresses and poorly done shirring. Also it's irritating when relatively new people complain like you haven't even tried to make anything work for you. It just makes us all look like entitled foreigners who are only interested in consuming without putting in work or appreciating the work put into it.

And I agree that not many will buy this VM skirt.

[Anonymous No.9527746]

>>9527727
Something that is more typical of their usual style?

[Anonymous No.9527764]

>>9527738
I will never understand this sense of entitlement. Foreigners aren't brands' target demographic, and foreigners who significantly deviate from their standard sizing even less so. We shouldn't expect them to bend over backwards to cater to us when we only make up a small percentage of people who buy from them. Victorian Maiden especially when you consider that they don't even ship directly overseas.

I'm 5'11 but I don't complain to brands about them making everything too short because I know that the vast majority of lolitas aren't 5'11. But my wardrobe is still mostly brand because I take the time to find long releases and get stuff professionally altered.

[Anonymous No.9527794]

>>9527734
>all the other main brands.
You mean btssb, ap and aatp? Most brands actually don't mainly release prints.

[Anonymous No.9527796]

>>9527746
That's really old

[Anonymous No.9527815]

>>9523370
>tfw you were overweight but getting into classic forced you to work out and get down to a size 8 so you could get into that VM and MM
>tfw people would rather be fat than improve themselves to better suit something they enjoy

Brands should ask for deposits from these fatties screaming 'I would buy if it was bigger'

[Anonymous No.9527824]

>>9527633
Wtf is the triangle in the middle, it would almost be ok without it

[Anonymous No.9527825]

>>9527734
Even their oldschool stuff is always slightly off, I love oldschool but mam is never quite right

[Anonymous No.9527880]

Did any of you buy it? Some of it is sold out now

[Anonymous No.9527927]

>>9527796
>2011
>really old

ok brenda

[Anonymous No.9527956]

>>9527746
That would look awful on someone with a fat gut.

[Anonymous No.9528034]

>>9527880
Link?

[Anonymous No.9528060]

>>9528034
Seriously? Moi-meme-moitie.shop-pro.jp

[Anonymous No.9528076]

>>9528060
Sorry. Didn't know if it was a secondhand listing or what.