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9890818 No.9890818 [Reply] [Original] [rbt]

Can we have a thread for gothic coords where the main piece/the majority of the coordinate isn't black? I'm especially interested in purples/wines if you've got 'em, but anything is welcome.

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>> No.9890823 [DELETED] 

This is classic. Nothing about the themes or how it's cut looks gothic.

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I'll dump what I got OP

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>> No.9890877

I find it so hard to make a Goth coord in white with pieces from brands other than MMM...

Anyway, this is gorgeous.

>> No.9890904

this jsk is basically my one true love. I hope to fit it one day, with minimal alteration

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>> No.9890982

It's not classic either, looks more like sweet/ hime

>> No.9890985

Yes Mana I Will Plz Bless

>> No.9891039

if this was on someone else the girl would be posted to an ita thread. that wig looks like shit as do her tights.

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>waahh i don't like it so it's bad
It's not even close to ita. I swear some of you cunts on here just throw words around.

>> No.9891066

People just like nitpicking.

>> No.9891232

True, but her makeup and hair bring the entire look over to goth. She looks like one of the goth girls in the frilly dresses at WGT; not a typical look, but still gothic.

>> No.9891233

I love these threads. It's so embarassing how many people think

any other color=classic

Recently I wore a sweet coord in navy to a con and took part in a lolita panel. The person running the panel introduced my look as "Classic" and I wanted to scream.

>> No.9891240

It's just a sign that anons are either new or never dropped the "basic" telling of every substyle that they read when they first discovered lolita; either way it goes to show that they don't really know what they're talking about. Fashion and aesthetic is a lot more fluid than they realize.

>I wore a sweet coord in navy
>The person running the panel introduced my look as "Classic"
That's so absurd it's hilarious, though if I were you I'd definitely be screaming internally too.

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She also said this dress was classic, because it was coorded in a Marie Antoinette style.
Apparently anything that doesn't look like age-play sweet or looks a tiny bit mature is now classic.

My """"classic"""" dress was Sweetie Violet btw coorded with pastels.

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Good to know the good old "blind leading the blind" phenomenon is still a thing. Yikes.
>pic unrelated

>> No.9891723 [DELETED] 

I have a dress like this, wine with cream lace, can I get suggestions for goth-ing it up besides a giant bat purse?

>> No.9891724

I have a dress like this, wine with cream lace, can I get suggestions for goth-ing it up besides a giant bat purse? I thought I would only ever be able to coord it in a classic way.

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This is probably going to start some arguments but I feel like the accessories that are basically fetish-wear are very goth.

>> No.9891806

This one bugs me. Moitie op or not this looks more like pinup than Lolita. Not a fan.

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>> No.9891844

>accessories that are basically fetish-wear are very goth.
anon. ANON.

>> No.9891882

I've been trying to find the gothic in this aside from her hairstyle and I'm drawing a blank.

>> No.9891902

Couldn't agree with you more anon. Would perfectly fit WGT.

I never get why certain people only look at the dress to determine which style the compleet coord is. Things like headpieces, hair, makeup, blouses, thights, shoes and accessories can change the overal feel so much.

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here are more coords to argue about

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>> No.9892011

Idk, the hair isn't "necessarily" gothic, and works for Lolita. That leaves just the makeup, and I just can't accept that gothic makeup makes a coordinate gothic. Not even trying to nitpick, just makes sense to me.

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>> No.9892014

I'm sure it would, but from a Lolita perspective this is sweet dress, sweet headdress, sweet shoes, ambiguous tights and hair, and then gothic makeup. Gothic makeup doesn't make a Lolita coordinate gothic. Nonetheless, I like it and it looks cool, but I myself wouldn't call it gothic necessarily.

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end for now

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done for now once more

>> No.9893679

Anyone know what shoes those are?

>> No.9893683

This dress is my nemesis. I want it so much it hurts.

>> No.9893688

Sorry for the stupid question, but since there's no stupid question/beginner threads right now...

Is there actually such thing as "pastel goth", whether in Lolita or other jfashions? I see the term a lot associated with aesthetic pictures I like, but not so much with actual fashion. And unfortunately a lot of the associations with pastel goth seem to be ddlg/Melanie Martinez types. Are there any gothic Lolita looks that work with pastels?

>> No.9893755

I think the closest you'd get is the "bittersweet lolita" style. So just sweet but in black colourways. with pastel prints and such.

>> No.9893762

Gothic lolita brands don't produce clothes in pastel colorways.

Maybe AP's Halloween prints are more your taste but that's not gothic fyi

>> No.9893997

There is pastel goth fashion, in a way; it's more of a fashion trend than a subculture afaik, and while there are people who still wear it (at least on social media, idk if these people wear their fashion out of the house or just post pics on their sm for likes), it was a lot more common to see in the earlier 2010s, especially on tumblr.
Having said that, pastel goth is not jfash and not goth. It's often equated with creepy cute style, right? That was incorporated into lolita in 2013 iirc, with sweet prints on black or lavender and eyeball bows/bats/plastic pastel cross necklaces but again, it's more of a trend that came and went than an actual substyle, and like anon said, it's not gothic.

>> No.9894002

Posting again to say that if there's no stupid question thread, you can just start one yourself, especially if you have a stupid question to ask.

>> No.9894032 [DELETED] 

You can't really be trying to argue that because her makeup is gothic it makes the whole coord gothic. How new can you be?

>> No.9894041

I'm not arguing anything, but I do think that hairstyle and makeup matter in coords just as much as the pieces being worn. The headdress, OP and tights are very cute and sweet, there's no doubt about that, and the hair and makeup give the entire look a completely different feeling than traditional sweet or hime hair and makeup would've given it. Does that make sense?

>> No.9894043

they do though. both AtPie and Boz have, and Moitie's florals are sometimes pastel. is there a specific definition of "pastel" you are using here that would exclude those?

>> No.9894046 [DELETED] 

>I do think that hairstyle and makeup matter in coords just as much as the pieces being worn

Alright now you're just trolling. You mean to tell me I can slap on pastel vomit and just because my hair and makeup is gothic you'd consider it gothic? Because that coord is very sweet and you're saying it's gothic.

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>is there a specific definition of "pastel" you are using here that would exclude those?
Pic related

Could you refresh my memory though? I'm honestly not sure what pieces you're referring to. Looking up 'Moitie floral' on Lolibrary brings up a pink skirt for example, but that's not pastel.

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And here's a pic of the Moitie skirt I found. Giving you the benefit of the doubt, maybe it's a softer color irl? Even though, I think it would like more classic than gothic in a coord.

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the pink and turquoise in your image seem similar to AtPie/Boz releases, which have the gothic cut even though i cannot locate gothic coords of them.

it is also difficult to say for sure if the pink in pic related is true to color or not, but it is what i would consider pastel. i can see where it might be too desaturated(?) to fit some definitions though

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as for moitie, the cut is still gothic in their releases and coorded gothically maybe half the time, and classic in the other half. this lolita designated her coord gothic and i agree: if the pieces were black, it would not be a question. (whereas if >>9895198's coord were black, it would still be plausibly classic)

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i can also see how these Moitie florals might not fit the "pastel" label, now that i look at them

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they come close though

>> No.9895631


Pastel pink enough?

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And matching skirt

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looking for more examples with white main piece and black accessories/blouse/etc

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>> No.9902232

Why are there so many people ITT that think dark colors and/or heavy makeup automatically means goth? I see a ton of classic and hime in here. Some of the early posts gave me hope for this thread but it turned to crap about a third of the way down. Except for the hime coord at the top, good try, OP. Good try.

>> No.9902377

Colors and the way a coordinate is styled (ie makeup) contribute to the overall substyle it falls under. It's very possible for coordinates to walk the line between classic and gothic, of course makeup would push them more into gothic territory.

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>> No.9902486

Thanks so much anon. I recently bought a white dress I couldn't get out of my mind, but I have very little white considering my entire wardrobe is black, so I needed some inspiration

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>> No.9902502

This really throws me off with the headwear, everything else says gothic to me and then the bow and hat kinda...doesn't as much.

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and I derped with the picture

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>> No.9902717

be specific, link to them directly, help us be better

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Isn't this girl from that one ita band from back in the day?

>> No.9903922

Does anyone know if she has social media?

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>> No.9904113

the way this girl styles herself (piercing, makeup, haircut) is absolutely repulsive

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>> No.9904398

She's goth outside of lolita, I believe. Her styling is more suited to that than Lolita.

>> No.9904545

It's more Western goth than gothic lolita, but I disagree with it looking repulsive. I absolutely love how bold it looks when paired with lolita.

>> No.9905494

I really don't see how her makeup is not considered gothic lolita. the piercing is something you don't see everyday, but her make in op and >>9890821 is similar in style and application to Mana (barring the red lip instead of black or blue)
I don't agree with distinguishing her style as "western goth but not lolita"
it's hands-down lolita i m o

>> No.9905495

Does anyone know which wig this is?

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that looks more classic, sorry gulls

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>> No.9905714

fuck, I love this. Does anyone know what blouse that is?

>> No.9905719

is this girl on social media anywhere? I love this

>> No.9906214

yeah, I was about to be that person but you noticed.
loving that priestly EGA on the guy there, yow

>> No.9906982

Pastel goth isn't jfash.

>> No.9907007

Yuck, that's way too short for her. I was so happy to see someone wearing the shirred blue jsk upthread that actually fit it for a change. I didn't realize this dress was that big also

>> No.9907102

anyone know what dress this is?

>> No.9907136

>anyone know what dress this is?
Moitie chandelier print jsk (from 2007)

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I think It's a black peace now blouse. I just bought one recently

>> No.9908841

Nothing here is gothic anon

>> No.9908850

thank you so much. The sleeves are to die for.

>> No.9912981

the shoes and tights at the least

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>> No.9917185

People in my comm who have been wearing lolita for 5+ years still can't tell the difference.

>> No.9917189

That's dusty rose, not pastel. You are colour-blind.

>> No.9917191

Dress is gothic, rest is sweet.

>> No.9917192

Holy man face

>> No.9917785

I hate how every single gothic thread involves so much bitching about what is or isn't gothic. The distinction between substyles is not cut and dry, and essentially boils down to a feeling they evoke which is highly subjective. Some brands/cuts/prints/colors/themes/whatever are obviously more geared toward evoking the gothic feel, but something can have both sweet(or classic) and goth traits and still belong in a thread like this. Nobody gives a shit if a coord isn't gothic enough according to your personal tastes.

>> No.9919428

Yup, RazorBladeKisses

Their music hurt to listen to, and they weren't exactly popular in the egl community. They still have a couple of vids on youtube.

Some of the outfits were kinda cool though, once they'd polished their look.

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i love it desu

it is predictable and makes me kinda nostalgic

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>> No.9926229

Oh god, seeing this dress makes me so damn happy. Hopefully I'll be able to get one one day.

>> No.9926703

lace with ''sharp'' or like pointed esque looks perhaps?
maybe try to wear it with black hair and some more goth-esque makeup?

>> No.9926707

looks like some generic wholesale wig.

>> No.9926739

coord it with gothic jewelry, rings, maybe a black canotier, gothic make/hair. a gothic cameo would look nice.

>> No.9926742 [DELETED] 

theyre the meta platforms

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theyre meta

ill dump some pics that we can fight about as pastel gothic. im not saying they are for sure im just posting some for potential discussion re: your Q

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heres a BAD example

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also i would argue that the styling/makeup makes this gothic even with a classic print

>> No.9927422

this is a bit of a scene mess

this is pastel goth, and it is sweet x goth lolita

not sure if pastel goth, but def gothic lolita

the makeup is more goth than many gothic lolitas do their makeup, but no other elements of the coord are gothic. i like it anyway. it is a good twist

>> No.9927432


I normally don't mind mismatching pinks, but wow, the styling, the tone, and the actual colors of the accessories does not match this whatsoever.

>> No.9927478


Just wondering but is this a man (which is fine), or is this OP just hugely unflattering?

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wrong image, what color even is this

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the boots look like cheap shit, otherwise I like this

>> No.9932590

yikes, this dress does not fit her

>> No.9932601

Imagine being too fat for the L size Moitie made for fatties especially

>> No.9934832

Oooh I like that one.

The hat makes it.

>> No.9934842


I dunno, anon, I'm kinda into the whole image, there. She looks like she would be the vindictive billionaire who stabs you with an umbrella in a JRPG. And I kinda like that. I think the tights would be better if they were just a solid black, though, and maybe some vivid red in the dress. Like a rose instead of the white brooch she's got going on.

>> No.9934849

That's some good shit right there that is

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fuckin dropped fuckin file

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yeah the shoes are sweet, sorry. here is a 100% unambiguous goth coord to compensate for the impurity

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I'll bite. Correct me if any of these aren't gothic - I'm always looking to improve my knowledge

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>> No.9940505 [DELETED] 

This thread is for non black gothic coords. the majority of this is black. are you retarded?

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Think this is borderline classic-gothic

>> No.9940508 [DELETED] 

Read the fucking OP

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>> No.9940513

If you're pulling me up for including pictures where the main piece isn't black but the accessories are, what about the following:

>> No.9940514 [DELETED] 

You're the one that's currently dumping pics you retard.

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>> No.9944383

are you serious, this is awful and barely lolita

>> No.9944648

Wait. Is she using the skirt that >>9940503 is wearing as cloak? Or does there exist an actual cloak with that fabric?

>> No.9944671

I'm pretty sure it's a skirt.

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forgive any repeats my loves

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>> No.9950183

Dusty rose is still pastel. Pastel is indicative of the saturation, not the hue. Words mean things.

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thank you.

also, AtPie has released some pastel tea-length OPs and Boz has a pastel purple one now.

here is indie/handmade (Eat Me Ink Me) pastel goth

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gonna need 100 coords with the new Moitie check dresses senpai

>> No.9955411

>the framed pictures of Mana

>> No.9955425

She said on her blog she had it modified into a cape.

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