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>>12553798
Most foods are acidic; even milk is acid-producing.

Some of it is getting enough minerals.

Arginine is really great.

"Certain food groups are considered acidic, alkaline or neutral:

Acidic: Meat, poultry, fish, dairy, eggs, grains and alcohol.
Neutral: Natural fats, starches and sugars.
Alkaline: Fruits, nuts, legumes and vegetables."

>>12553841
15g of vitamin C is a lot of oranges, which is sorta why the information is so important.

>>12553844
>[pasta]

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>>12544351
Cholesterol biosynthesis is obviously quite expensive, and "the rate-limitation of steroid production is transporting free cholesterol from the cytoplasm into the mitochondria".

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>>12403150

.01% is about 500mg / day – 5x the RDA; and .4% is about 15g.

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>>12390936
>You
[Not an argument].

>only proven dietary methods
Another was literally just posted (>>12390854 (You)).

>fasting
Logically, far surpassed by anabolism. This is evidence-able anecdotally: great dieting for about five days, where skin is really healthy; then fasting for a day or two – it vastly decreases quality of smoothness and other characteristics. "How much more, then, musculature in greater-than-sedentary lifestyles … "

>the leftover …
That suggests sub-par nutrition and fitness, e.g., water, omega 3s, quality / types of food (and amounts) …

>cured meats
This also seems a nutriment problem, specifically antioxidants (nitrites / nitrates are NO producers, which is technically a free radical), but especially vitamin C, which increases NO potential, suggesting healthily (it's also an antioxidant).

>alcohol
Moderation is obvious, but effects are actually associated to levels of hunger (keywords: hypoglycemia, ghrelin), allowing smaller amounts, and cycles of hungry + alcohol calories …

>fiber
Having enough fiber for displacing sugar suggests carbs, which are also sugar.

Replacing carbs with protein, specifically powders, is still really healthy (even simply for the GH gains, but there are so many other benefits).

>>Muh vitamin C
>excess
It's similar to other water mixes, and the acidity is counter-able with bases, e.g., L-arginine (which increases NO and GH).

Also … [image] evidences that in non-biosynthesizers, .01% (about 5x the RDA) was non-effective in producing the blood metrics (and, in the article, QoL) of natural producers, whereas .4% (about 15g / day) was effective.

So, there's way more evidencing the necessity of such supplementation.

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>>12390936
>You
[Not an argument].

>only proven dietary methods
Another was literally just posted (>>12390854).

>fasting
Logically, far surpassed by anabolism. This is evidence-able anecdotally: great dieting for about five days, where skin is really healthy; then fasting for a day or two – it vastly decreases quality of smoothness and other characteristics. "How much more, then, musculature in greater-than-sedentary lifestyles … "

>the leftover …
That suggests sub-par nutrition and fitness, e.g., water, omega 3s, quality / types of food (and amounts) …

>cured meats
This also seems a nutriment problem, specifically antioxidants (nitrites / nitrates are NO producers, which is technically a free radical), but especially vitamin C, which increases NO potential, suggesting healthily (it's also an antioxidant).

>alcohol
Moderation is obvious, but effects are actually associated to levels of hunger (keywords: hypoglycemia, ghrelin), allowing smaller amounts, and cycles of hungry + alcohol calories …

>fiber
Having enough fiber for displacing sugar suggests carbs, which are also sugar.

Replacing carbs with protein, specifically powders, is still really healthy (even simply for the GH gains, but there are so many other benefits).

>>Muh vitamin C
>excess
It's similar to other water mixes, and the acidity is counter-able with bases, e.g., L-arginine (which increases NO and GH).

Also … [image] evidences that in non-biosynthesizers .01% (about 5x the RDA) was non-effective in producing the blood metrics (and, in the article, QoL) of natural producers, whereas .4% (about 15g / day) was effective.

So, there's way more evidencing the necessity of such supplementation.

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>>12188480

•The most powerful antioxidants (according to ORAC testing) are Sangre de Grado and astaxanthin. These are especially beneficial because it's possible taking L-DOPA for epinephrine and dopamine (even potentially producing consistent effects of caffeine / coffee), and – for melatonin and serotonin – 5-HTP. Antioxidants are great, especially with other nutriments, for actually feeling well and intense.
•Even if having shelved flaxseed for the phytoestrogens (which are debated anyway, though evidenced actually lowering estrogen production), those lignans are carbs; so oils are an option. Furthermore, ALA has conversion correlatives, specifically, some nutrients, n-6:n-3, and the limitation of trans-fatty acids, alcohol, and excess insulin. Fishoils were shown often oxidized from the amounts of EPA and DHA listed; and flaxseed oils are flavorous and great in recipes.

•Making really great "fundamental recipes" – frostings, fillings, creams, fudges, brownies, cookies, cakes, toffees, etc. – is really simple, even cold-made, amongst casein, whey, stevia, cocoa/ cacao, coffee, and/or egg(s). (Each of these were previously produced and were really great iterations – even quite fidelitous, though usually better because of … being homemade.)

Protips:
•Casein
>frothy
>savory-esque
>fluffy / pillowy
>powdery
•Whey
>crumbly
>cakey
>creamy
>sticky
•Stevia
>There are only-sweet iterations.
>Is some 200x sweeter than sugar, with longer onsets and more lasting durations.
>Has *benefits* to glucose and insulin blood metrics.
>Results with *much* more satiation derived from both food-preparation and meals.

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The biggest problem amongst these things seems botulinum toxin, which denatures at specific temperatures (and/or in acidity).

This is an aspect of why vitamin C supplementation is super beneficial – evidenced as "basically non-effective" at even 5x RDA percentages (.01% by weight to water – approximately 300mg / gal.), but similar to natural biosynthesizers at .4% ( ~ 15g / gal.).

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>>11948757
>>11948780
>>11948801
Vitamin C is evidenced as basically "non-effective" even at 5x RDA percentages (.01% – 300mg), but similar to natural biosynthesizers at .4% (15g). With that much of a dependance on supplementation, fluoride is only minimalistically reasonable (as vitamin C is an aspect of protection, e.g., for proper mineralization).

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Powdered vitamins and minerals are legitimate.

>bioavailability
At-least-usually documented, with specific options each.

http://www.nutrientsreview.com/glossary/essential-nutrients

More specifically of an example is that vitamin C is evidenced as non-effective even at 5x RDA percentages (.01% – 300 mg/gal.), but similarly productive for QoL and blood health at .4% (15 g/gal., though with no inbetween metrics for min-maxing; yet, these amounts are reasonable because even small animals are producing 10+ g/day.). This is only really plausible with supplementation.

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>>11934805
Amongst experiences … of nutritional abundance and ghrelin trends, it's really simple knowing what hungers are near deficits; and min-maxing hungering and T, and optimizing "liking", is really fun.

Protips:

•Protein is so satiating because it's the second most abundant item in the body, only to water.
•It's possible supplementing various aspects of resourcing ketones (such as pyruvate for gluconeogenesis).
•Another really beneficial dietary fundamental is getting lots of choline (e.g., sunflower lecithin – emulsification being a whole niche of preparation) – especially for countering small (periodic) amounts of botulinum toxin; and supplemented by vitamin C, large amounts of which are effecting transient hydrogen peroxide … (plausibly where necessary, when amongst proper antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, liquids, et al.). ".4%" is about 15 g/gal.
•Dietary cholesterol is also productive because it frees up acetyl-CoA, which is utilized in many functions – citric acid cycling, fatty acid metabolism, steroid biosynthesis …

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>>11913954
Things that are reduced by replacing carbs (e.g., pyruvate) are supplementable.

Beyond that sub-topic as a juncture is simply appealing to tradition / authority. The likelihood of "an abundance of nutriments" for controlling factors of that article (and most others) is mediocre. E.g., (especially) vitamin C, which was evidenced as "non-effective" at percentages even 5x the RDA (approx. 300mg), but (and though with no metrics between) equaling metrics of natural production at 15 g/day percentages, which is reasonable because even small animals are producing 10+ g/day. Others are protein (150 g/day), each of the vitamins and minerals …

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>>11894343
… PS:
•Vitamin C.

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•Cheese-making

•Recipe discovery (e.g., combinations with casein + whey; Amazon technically has MyProtein, but it's way over-priced there)

Cacao

Stevia (https://www.amazon.com/CCnatrure-Organic-Extract-Sweetener-Substitute/dp/B07MB8HW1R))

•Health
L-cysteine, vitamin C (for grams / day), 5-HTP, L-DOPA, Sangre de Grado, astaxanthin, and flaxseed oil

•Coffee-making
A strainer is about the only qualifier here … cold-brewing via suspension; warm pour-overs / soaking

… Percolation is of interest.

––

A lot of fundamental items (creamer, protein, etc.) are better (cheaper) locally or on specific sites, but the niche and utility items, and supplements, are often great on there. What's posted in this response is a lot of "feeling great" and exploratory options.

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>>11869451

… Grams of vitamin C.

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>>11862713
… The doses are 500mcg vitamin K and 1g magnesium …

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>>11841709
Warm memo: Most scholarly articles were produced with minimalistic controls (specifically, nutrition). Even vitamin C is evidenced as non-effective for QoL at 5x the RDA (300mg), but (though with no inbetween, for min-maxing) effective of 15g. Even small animals are producing 10+ g(!)/day. … Another is the availability of omega 3s, or potassium.

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