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10310510 No.10310510 [Reply] [Original]

Is meat meant to be consumed by humans?

Just wanna hear people's opinions.

>> No.10310519

Yes.

>> No.10310526

no. we have incisor teeth to cut the branches off trees if we lose our hands but notice how all our teeth are flat? that is because we are herbivores

>> No.10310532
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10310532

Yes

>> No.10310534

no, meat is meant to pull on bones to provide motor function in living organisms.

>> No.10310535

>>10310526
>all our teeth are flat
mutant

>> No.10310549
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10310549

Humans are omnivores, vegans and vegetarian fags can fuck off with their retarded feels logic. Pro tip for you vegans and vegetarians, plants can feel pain and distress and know when they are being eaten, checkmate faggots.
>Mfw this is some basic ass knowledge and most people don't know it.

>> No.10310574

>>10310549
I'm actually surprised people haven't caught onto that sooner. Plants are living things, so of course it would have some sort of biological reaction towards being eaten.

>> No.10310590

>>10310534

Fucking this. I hate retards who use the word “meant” with regard to nature.

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>>10310590
although I guess strictly speaking it's not just pulling on bones that provides motor function, but OP posts a steak and my mind immediately went to cow and vertebrates.

>> No.10310670

>>10310510
Nothing is "meant to" anything.

>> No.10310733
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10310733

Basically we have under developed canines and jaws because we don't need them to kill prey and cooking makes it easier to chew, our system is extremely good for digesting meat compared to a chimpanzee for instance(who wills till eat meat whenever it can to the point that some troops actively hunt other monkeys and go to war with other troops)

>> No.10310748

>>10310510
Yes, humans were meant to consume meat, but that doesn’t mean we have to or even should.

Humans also have penises that are shaped to plunge out cum from precious male partners

>> No.10310749

>>10310510
ancient humans were mostly scavengers so yes.
we definitely aren't supposed to eat as much meat as the average american currently does though.

>> No.10310892

Of course it is. Before we had agriculture we were hunter-gatherer-scavengers. That's literally how we existed for thousands of years. Just because some asshole figured out how to bake a loaf of bread doesn't mean we're just not able to eat it any more.

>> No.10310900

>>10310733
a sheep is 75% stomach

>> No.10311029

>>10310748
>precious male partners
what did he mean by this?

>> No.10311137

>>10310510
>have teeth for chewing meat
obviously a vegan diet is the most healthy and natural

>> No.10311468

>>10310510
Meat is not 'meant' for consumption by anyone. Our physical features are meant for it instead.

>> No.10311955

>>10310733
>Gaul Bladder
Watch out for Asterix there!

>> No.10312003

>>10310510
>Is meat meant to be consumed by humans?
Humans are very close to being obligate omnivores. We need some meat (or dairy) in our diets unless we're super-careful, just as we also need vegetables as well. Our bodies are adapted to work with mixed diets.

It's probably not a good idea for us to have too much meat in our diets; we're not as good at detoxifying all that protein as true carnivores. Flip side: being a vegan is also very difficult to do without serious malnutrition from lack of key vitamins and amino acids. (Vegetarians that still have dairy or eggs are still having mixed diets.)

>> No.10312070

>>10310510
If we are not supposed to eat meat, why are animals so tasty

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>>10310749
>ancient humans were mostly scavengers
Sounds like someone's been listening to niggers too much

>> No.10312464

>>10310510
Yes.

>> No.10312476 [DELETED] 

>>10310549
Humans are as omnivorous as you are talkative with a woman that isn’t your mother

>p-plants feel pain
If that were even true youd still be killing less living things

>> No.10312518

Tribes living in northern Canada and parts of Africa don't have a choice but to eat mostly meat for their diet. The environment matters for what people eat.

>> No.10312527

>>10310646
Squid have a single bone through the middle of the body to which most of their muscles anchor.

>> No.10312540

>>10310532
what have you done

>> No.10312545

>>10311029
he likes cock obviously

>> No.10312568 [DELETED] 

>>10310510
Protein proves we're evolved to eat meat, due to essential amino acids, of which only meat and dairy would have been a viable source. Even today, with our perfected farmed strains of vegetables, only meat and dairy is considered a complete protein.

You literally wouldn't have been able to survive or develop without meat. It would have been impossible to aquire the variation and quantity of vegetables required to substain yourself, or develop from childhood.

>> No.10312580

>>10312476
it is true and no, you wouldn't

>> No.10312599

>>10312527

To drunk to google, but I’m pretty sure squids don’t have bones.

>> No.10312600

>>10310510
Protein proves we're evolved to eat meat, due to essential amino acids, of which only meat and dairy would have been a viable source. Even today, with our perfected farmed strains of vegetables, only meat and dairy is considered a complete protein.

You literally wouldn't have been able to survive or develop without meat. It would have been impossible to aquire the variation and quantity of vegetables required to sustain yourself, or develop from childhood

>> No.10312616

>>10310510
Its not a matter of opinion, humans factually evolved to eat meat

>> No.10312687
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10312687

I asked the creator and he said it's ok.

>> No.10312801

>>10310510
meat is food for humans.
many humans eat too much meat.
small amounts are healthy.
you can survive without meat.

>> No.10312900

The fact that we can survive by eating the flesh and fat of our own kind shows that we are biologically opportunistic by nature and denying that makes us disingenuous.
Can humans evolve into strict herbivores in the future? Possibly, but at the expense of what other traits? It's unlikely, though, because nature doesn't give a shit about your moral views and since vegetarian diets are mostly prevalent in industrialized societies, the moment that privilege goes away, we quickly revert to eating critters and the strict vegetarians self select out of the race to the void.

>> No.10312940

>>10312476
Don't you dare try to tell me what I do, this is a forum for discussion, not a playground for your bunny fart fantasies.

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>>10312476
That's completely untrue, how many calories can you get out of a slaughtered cow? Hundreds of thousands, mostly protein. Enough to sustain anyone for weeks without needing to kill again.
Meanwhile pic related is what the average vegan consumes every day just to stave off death (malnutrition is a lost cause)

>> No.10312978

>are humans meant to eat meat
>eating meat caused the brain growth we have today from early humans

I'll let you figure that one out

>> No.10313098

>>10312957
>Meanwhile pic related is what the average vegan consumes every day just to stave off death
i dont know about raw vegans(and i doubt they do it) but normal ones dont eat huge amounts of lettuce

>> No.10313111

>>10312978
>effect came before cause
t.brainlet

>> No.10313188

>>10310510
No, but it's not not meant to be consumed either. We can eat it to get energy, but that doesn't mean we should eat it or that it's optimal.

>>10310519
>>10310532
>>10310549
>>10310574
>>10310749
>>10310892
>>10312600
>>10312616
>>10312801
>>10312978
retards

>> No.10313208

>>10310510
Meat isn't "meant" for anything, nothing has intrinsic meaning except for what it's given by intelligences like ourselves. So, basically, meat is food because we eat it.

>> No.10313209

>>10312957
I can't even imagine what its voice sounds like.

>> No.10313220

>>10313208
Agreed. It's like asking 'what is the meaning of life?' when the word 'meaning' can have several interpretations.

>> No.10313271

>>10310510
If we weren’t suppose to eat meat, we wouldn’t have been hunters when we were a primitive species. Our intelligence evolved from thinking of methods to use tools to kill animals to eat.

>> No.10313276

>>10313188
>people are suppose to be vegan
>just look at this vegan sponsored infograph
>everyone who disagrees with me is retarded
>my moral beliefs should be interpreted as scientific facts

>> No.10313302

>>10310526
Herbivore teeth are thicc. We're omnivores. Really, we're quite adaptable and outside of being malnourished (not necessarily food amount but nutrition), diet changes are a game of incremental optimisation.

>> No.10313317

>>10312580
>>10312957
What? Are you two being retarded on purpose? If a cow eats 100 calories of grass, it produces far less than 100 calories of meat. That's very common knowledge.

>> No.10313318

>>10310510
>closest non-human relatives eat meat
>every human culture eats meat
Gee I don't know sped, that's a hard one, I know you really hate your daddy and the podunk midwestern town he made you grow up in, but try to engage your brain for a second before you ask stupid fucking questions.

>> No.10313320

>>10310510
>Is meat meant to be consumed by humans?

I think the word you're looking for is 'should' Humans eat meat and the answer is probably not.

I don't think the rate at which we produce meat for consumption is economically or environmentally viable. If we were living like animals or cavemen then it would be in our best interest to take advantage of every single resource available to us, but as a modern society meat should really be handled more like a luxury and less like a common every day commodity.

Cheese, Eggs, and at one point Fish (rip Fish btw, I think cod are still extinct in Canada and Tuna are on their way out- they get smaller every year) should be acknowledge and encouraged as more responsible sources of animal-protein until we can get those meat-cloning factories up and running.

>> No.10313334

>>10313317
I don’t see where he said “every calorie a cow eats will equal a calorie of cow flesh.” You’re the retard here. Once again using your morals to disregard science. Veganism is no different from any other religion. Who needs science when we can just believe all this bullshit! It’s only stupid vegans who say we aren’t suppose to eat meat. The intelligent ones say we don’t need to.

>> No.10313336

>>10313188
t. soyboy

>> No.10313340
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>>10310510
Yes

>> No.10313455

Yeah in moderation

>> No.10313476

>>10310510

Meat has more essential aminoacids that plants on average. At first humans did not eat meat, but they changed their habits from collecting fruits and herbs to huting and eating animals. More nutrices meat made our brains bigger and our bodies stronger.

There is also no what is "meant to be" in nature. Animals adapt and evolve trying new things to climb up the food chain and survive.

>> No.10313532

>>10313476
>At first humans did not eat meat
Source?

>> No.10313537

>>10310510
We are omnivores so yes we can eat meat. Do not let anti basic science vegans tell you otherwise.

>> No.10313548

>available
>tasty
>doesn't make me sick
>won't kill me any faster than anything else edible
Seems like a yes to me, OP.

>> No.10313568

>>10313537
I think the vegan message is that in modern times much of the world has evolved beyond eating meat purely for survival and that we can obtain our protein and whatnot from other readily available sources so why not do that instead of butchering other sentient being.
I mean, I wouldn't like to be slaughtered.

>b-b-but nature!
Sure, wild animals would eat us if they could, and they were hungry enough, but we're not wild animals any more. Except in the bed room, if you know what I mean. Raarr!

>> No.10313875

>>10313276
Literally the opposite of what I said moron

>> No.10313910

>Is air meant to be breathed by humans?

>> No.10313919

>>10311955
I chuckled

>> No.10313924

Yes, in moderation, we are omnivores after all.

>> No.10313939

>>10313568
So by that logic we shouldn't be having sex with each other either? Just donate sperm and ovules

>> No.10313962

>>10310510
My personal belief is that all humans should die of starvation as soon as possible.

>> No.10313969

>>10310510

Nothing is "meant" there is no "supposed to", things adapt to eat literally what they can and just that, though not built for hunting many herbivores are opportunistic carnivores.

If you are lucky enough to be one of the people on this world to get your hands on a steak, you should eat it.

>> No.10314135

>>10310510
>Is meat meant to be consumed by humans?
Not necessarily, but humans are meant to consume meat.

>B-b-but muh herbivorous great apes
>muh incisors
Bonobos and chimps are opportunistic omnivores who not only catch, kill and eat smaller animals when they can but have been observed to engage in cannibalism.

>> No.10314177

>>10310733

>man
>survival without animal protein: impossible

>> No.10314358

Yes because it's the most calorie-dense food we can get. Nowadays we eat too much meat but that doesn't mean we shouldn't eat meat.

>> No.10314363

>>10313969
What this guy said

Anyone telling you that animal X was "meant to" this or that was obviously home schooled by evangelical christians

>> No.10314385

>>10314177
That's essentially correct. B12 in particular is produced solely by microorganisms found in animal guts. The only natural ways to obtain it are by eating meat, having a rumen, or eating feces.

>> No.10314392

>>10314385
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? You think those B12 pills they sell at Rite-Aid are dug out of animals?

Where do people get this shit?

>> No.10314397

>>10313188
Explain

>> No.10314405

>>10314385
They get it from eating plants. Most meat isn't grass fed anymore. The b12 is literally added to their food so they absorb it

>> No.10314418

You can eat meat. If you were starving the high calories would keep you alive. You aren't starving, you're eating meat for pleasure which is weak and decadent.

You would get optimal health eating a whole food plant based diet.

>> No.10314427

>>10314392
>>10314405
Do you guys not know what natural means?

>> No.10314433

>>10314427
So a steak from the local Kroger, raised by Cargill Meat Solutions in a giant factory farm somewhere in the midwest, is "natural" and therefore good

But a Centrum pill is "artificial" and therefore evil

Is that about right?

>> No.10314443

>>10314433
I have no idea where you're getting good and evil from.
In the wild, without access to industrial fermentation technology to grow B12 in a vat or synthesize it in a lab, you must either consume meat, feces, or food contaminated with feces to live for very long. That's all I'm saying.

>> No.10314449

>>10314443
You said:
>That's essentially correct. B12 in particular is produced solely by microorganisms found in animal guts. The only natural ways to obtain it are by eating meat, having a rumen, or eating feces.
That was in response to:
>>survival without animal protein: impossible
So I guess what you are saying is, humans live without access to industrial fermentation technology, or any sort of agriculture, commercial or otherwise

>> No.10314487

>>10314449
I'd argue that OP's original question concerned humans more broadly. But sure, yes, for a minority of people living in the last few decades, it's perfectly possible and healthy to survive without protein that literally came from an animal's body. Almost any creature can survive an otherwise fatal diet with the right supplements.

>> No.10314492

>>10314487
You keep skirting the issue here. Eating commercially farmed meat is no more "natural" or "normal" than eating beans and rice and popping some pills.

Those animals would not be commercially viable if not for industrially fermented B12 supplements, and all the B12 you get from eating them came from those same kinds of supplements you can buy at Rite-Aid.

>> No.10314511

Yes, God gave us dominion over everything. God also hates vegetarians, read up on Cain and Abel.

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>>10314511
>God gave us dominion over everything
>we fucked it up so we had to make an everything simulator in the form of an industrialized agriculture system that gives us beetus and heart disease
We'll get it right in a few generations I'm sure, but for the time being I have no qualms about shitting on people who mistake Kroger for the garden of eden (or Garden of Eden grocery store on West 23rd Street)

>> No.10314535

>>10314492
Well of course, most of us don't live in nature any more, so "natural" goes out the window in any context other than evolutionary biology, i.e. ancient history.
I have zero problem with taking a supplement instead of eating meat that took the same supplement. We didn't evolve fermentation chambers in our stomachs, but we did evolve the brain to build artificial ones.

>> No.10314536

>>10310510
Op doesn't want opinions. He wants a debate. Kek i grow my own rabbits and chickens. Delicious

>> No.10314554

>>10310510
if you don't die/get sick when eating something, or find it whole in your excretions, then who are we to judge if you're meant to eat it

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>>10310510
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

>> No.10315125

>>10310733
>man
>jaw movement
>not rotary
What the fuck? My jaw moves in all directions. Smells like some butthurt meatcuck made that infographic a little biased.

>> No.10315145

Also omnivores and carnivores don't develop heart disease by eating meat, I think that's a surefire way of nature saying don't eat animals.
And please research whether the eskimos or masais had atherosclerosis as an "argument" for a carvinorous diet: they had atherosclerosis and very much so.

>> No.10315196

>>10313317
>hurr durr I don’t know what efficiency actually means

The calories in grass are shitty, useless calories that humans can’t use. The efficient way to get calories from grass isn’t to eat giant piles of it like a fucking moron(but I bet those shits would be epic), it’s to feed the grass to livestock that can turn the calories into food we can actually digest.

>> No.10315234

Herbivore humans are always entertaining. It's always about feels. Domesticated food animals only exist because we eat them. If we didn't eat them, they wouldn't exist. Yet they act like the non-existence of a species is a solution to anything. "Cows get eaten, so it would somehow be morally better if they just didn't exist." Right.

>> No.10315245
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As a proud, pure-blood, aryan True Vegan, I am comforted in the fact that my race has the discipline, self control, and mental superiority to not need to depend on eating meat like all the shitskin niggers.

It's literally what makes us better people than those savages.

>> No.10315247

>>10312900
came here to post this. Vegetarianism is a privilege.

>> No.10315252

Morally I'm fine with eating an animal as long as it's done humanely. That means quick and painless death after years of giving the animal tender love and compassion. Think about it, if I got to live the life of luxury, and then suddenly dropped dead one day without even knowing it, that'd be pretty sweet. Go ahead and use my body to make some starving families happy. You gave me a good life, why should I care what happens when I'm dead?It's called not being a hypocrite.

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>>10315245
>veganism is literally what makes us better people than those savages.

>> No.10315264

>>10315245
>I am comforted in the fact that my race has the discipline, self control, and mental superiority to not need to depend on eating meat like all the shitskin niggers.

What about dot indians? Not feather indians.

>> No.10315283

>>10315264

Indians from India are only vegetarians because their retarded ass backwards religion teaches them a cow is their granmother. They're literally too stupid to realize cows are food, not your fucking daddy.

They have no moral fortitude or true virtue because they're just not eating meat cuz they're dumb. Not cause they want to do good in the world.

>> No.10315298

>>10310510
This is such a fucking stupid question. Humans started to eat meat way way way back and now (and for a long time) we have been omnivores. At one point we were not omnivores and that's why people for some reason like to say we're "not supposed to eat meat", which is fucking stupid because it's ignoring a huge part of our evolution. We weren't created with a set of things we should eat and a set of things we shouldn't, we have, as any other animal, learned to survive and eat what works.
So the short answer is yes, we are supposed to eat meat.

>> No.10315302

>>10315283
Probably the two most retarded paragraphs of text I have read today.
You're a double shitcunt for Reddit spacing them as well.
:)

>> No.10315311

>>10315298
Rape is also a huge part of evolution. It is literally coded into our DNA that a man should get aroused at taking a woman by force. Those are the genies that get passed on. So is what is quaintly referred to as "infidelity". There is no reason why a woman should not want the genes from the strongest, but the resources from the wealthiest. Having a "strong" immune system can kill you better than a "weak" immune system (see: Spanish flu pandemic)

Point being, you're making the same logical error that the people who say "we're not supposed to eat meat" are committing

Unless you believe God controls it all, the only "supposed to" that is logically consistent is the one that promotes the propagation of your genies. Since eating meat or not eating meat is basically neutral in that area, in this day and age, it's strictly a matter of fashion. Are you a strong self-reliant cave man rrawwrr or are you a refined holy man who doesn't need to kill to satisfy his base urges. That's it. Pick your tribe and fling shit but it's got nothing to do with oughts and shoulds.

>> No.10315320

>>10315283
>They have no moral fortitude or true virtue because they're just not eating meat cuz they're dumb. Not cause they want to do good in the world.

This. I don't consider them to be true Vegans (which they aren't, they still do all sorts of shit that harms animals.) They're just brainwashed retards.

>> No.10315457

>>10315311
That was my point.

>> No.10316002

Humans are herbivores, but much like other herbivores, you can still pass chunks of meat through your system. This is a function that comes in handy during times of food shortages, ice ages, whatnot. Sure, you'll end up like the Eskimos and be malnourished, but once you can start eating vegetation again, you're dandy. If you're in an environment like the arctic, or desert Africa, then you'll have to resort to eating meat more. If you're in some place where agriculture or vegetation is abundant, like India or Okinawa, then you wouldn't need to rely on your emergency food. That's just my opinion.

>> No.10316059

>>10315311
I don't believe rape is coded into us. Maybe some, but certainly not a majority of men. You get aroused by taking a woman by force because your body just responds to it like normal sex. Your hormones and bodily functions can't tell the difference between consent and non. The main culprit on that is a healthy mental state vs a non healthy mental state or the culture you're born into.
At least that's how I look at it, but I know there is rape all over the animal world so I could be extremely wrong

>> No.10316108

>>10310733
Virgin vs Chad posts should use this format

>> No.10316116

>>10316059
You don't have to believe that 2+2 is 4 if you don't want to, but...

>> No.10316124

>>10310510
Modern man evolved into his current state BECAUSE our ancestors ate meat. Cooking meat is what made us us.

>> No.10316131

>>10310670
this, a million times this

>> No.10316139

>>10316124
Using fire and tools did that. Not precisely eating meat, but eating meat and things like starches are what can be attributed to be effects of our development

>> No.10316187

>>10315245
How's your farm going Boer?

>> No.10316214

>>10315311
sup reddit?

>> No.10316255

>>10316116
Claiming all men enjoy raping is a bold statement

>> No.10316262

Nothing was many to be consumed by anything except for milk which is explicitly created for the purpose of feeding to the producer's offspring.

Asking if something was meant to be consumed by humans is the dumbest fucking thing, humans literally evolved to their current state by eating everything they weren't supposed to.

>> No.10316282

>>10316255
All men like fucking

>> No.10316290

>>10315245
>It's literally what makes us better people than those savages.

True. Only evolved cultures choose to be vegans because of humanitarian reasons, even though we can afford all the meat in the world.

It's a true, self-less sacrifice for first-worlders to give up meat.

>> No.10316323

>>10316282
Correct. Not all men are willing to rape

>> No.10316351

>>10316323
All men are willing to fuck
whether it's rape or not it's inconsequential
I don't care if you've been in a monastery for your entire life and being abstinent is your number one priority, you're not removing the urges and nature doesn't care whatever the fuck you do

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What's actually the argument for being a meatcuck anyway?

Occassionally a few get triggered irl (when I refuse chocolate repeatedly, I don't go around preaching) and start lecturing about veganism being unhealthy and so on while being fat, acne covered and short.

I don't actively work out apart from cycling on the weekends, but am 6'6", have great skin and far past the average meatcucks fitness level whenever anything which compares it comes up e.g. jogging to an exam when I was at uni.

Maybe it isn't as healthy as some ultra specialist diet, but I find it real hard to believe it's somehow worse than the average omnivore diet just through comparing my body/fitness and the few other vegans I know to the average carncuck.

>> No.10316414

>>10316351
Fucking isn't rape.

>> No.10316466

>>10316351
>Rape is also a huge part of evolution. It is literally coded into our DNA that a man should get aroused at taking a woman by force
Is there a source for this by the way?

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>>10315125
You can not chew horizontally without grinding your teeth - a very destructive action for both humans and carnivores. Just because your jaw has some extra horizontal free play doesn't mean it isn't for some other purpose, for instance the force needed to break the jaw from a side impact increases a great deal because our lower jaw isn't a fixed hinge.
Something else to consider: your eyes are in the front of your head. Stereo vision has only one purpose and that's to estimate distance. To prey. Which are eaten when caught. If humans were true herbivores we would have eyes on the side of our heads and carry a wider range of vision.

>> No.10316493

>>10316366
Nice blog, tumblerina

>> No.10316500

>>10315125
Yes, it can rotate. But that is not how we chew. Sheep, cows etc. rotate as they chew in order to grind their food. Humans don't do that.

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10316556

>>10316493
as I expected.

>> No.10316569

>>10316466
I'm not the same anon
>>10316414
You agree that all men want to fuck
You say that not all fucking is rape
But all rape is fucking.
Therefore all men will fuck.

>> No.10316574

>>10316500
Humans grind food, actually, we don't cleave it. That's what utensils are for.

>> No.10316587

>>10316569
I agree with that statement. I disagreed with the rape is literally in all men's DNA and that every man would be able to do so.

>> No.10316596
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Humans are omnivores, we need a healthy balance of meat, fruits, and veggies

>how can you justify killing a po defenseless being?
Because they're tasty and complement my veggies really well.

>> No.10316606

>>10310510
i don't think anything is really "meant to be consumed by x"
that being said, i do think humans are omnivores

>> No.10316665

>>10310526
but we have canines you nigger

>> No.10316687

>>10310519
fpbp

>> No.10316971

>>10310510
God's instructions to Noah and his family after the deluge.
(Genesis 9:3, 4) 3Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. Just as I gave you the green vegetation, I give them all to you. 4Only flesh with its life—its blood—you must not eat.

>> No.10317647

>>10313939
Do you kill your sex partners after you have sex with them? Be honest.

>> No.10317765

biologically yes, ethically no

>> No.10317831

yes. for 1 million years yes.

>> No.10317868

>>10317765
>ethically no
lmao

>> No.10318653

>>10315283
God damn this is retarded. Nice reddit spacing faggot

>> No.10318672

>>10315283
fun fact; chickens aren't cows

>> No.10318684

>>10315311
>all men are rapists
cryptofeminazi detected

>> No.10318687

>>10310510
>meant
Take your teleology back to >>>/his/

>> No.10318689

>>10315283
Retard

>> No.10318708

Meat evolved from plants so no.

>> No.10318727

Do you think vegans taste like cow? This would be a good resource in the inevitable future dystopia.

>> No.10318775

you retarded vegans wouldnt be having these conversations if it were not for meat being cooked

>> No.10318863 [DELETED] 

>>10318775
>OP asked about meat
>you wouldn't be having this discussion if meat didn't exist

>you wouldn't be reading this if didn't type it

>> No.10319051

>>10317868
its true and if you disagree you're either stupid or you haven't read enough

>> No.10319070

>>10310510
only by sub-humans

>> No.10319122

>>10310526
>>10310733
organisms adapt whatever morphology they have for its purposes. the fact that we have gill-like structures doesnt mean that we have to breathe water through our ears
>>10313318
our evolutionary relatives don't mean shit. Penguins have wings, but that doesn't mean that they're meant to fly. Their evolutionary relatives are ally using wings for flying, but they aren't. Their wings, which are usually flying implements, are adapted for swimming.

>> No.10320378

>>10319051
Humans are omnivores, it is ethical to continue to use animals as food sources for our livelihood.

This will never change and there is nothing you can do about it.

>> No.10320404

>>10310510
>Is meat meant to be consumed by humans?
who the fuck cares?

>> No.10320428

>>10312527
The cartilaginous "pen"

>> No.10320435

>>10315283
>They have no moral fortitude or true virtue because they're just not eating meat cuz they're dumb. Not cause they want to do good in the world.

If indians didn't have their religion, they'd be ass backwards carnivores, so I don't give Indians a free pass. Besides, they eat dairy and harm plenty of animals.

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>>10316478
Ha!the nigger didn't reply!

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>>10313188
>have teeth specially for cutting meat
>have saliva fit for starting meat digestion
>have stomach acid fit to break down meat
>have bacteria in the gut specially for meat
No, obviously we're not meant to eat meat at all.

>> No.10320454

>>10310748
Ignoring your typo that's not even true.
That argument it destroyed by the fact that we have foreskin

>> No.10320455

>>10310510
80% plants/vegetables + 20% everything else = god diet

>> No.10320476

>>10317647
Not him but sometimes

>> No.10320528

>>10310510
definitely not in the amounts we eat, but yeah, chimps and bonobos eat mainly fruit with a decent portion of small animal meat and they are genetically adjacent to us.

>> No.10320876

>>10314511
Yes, and what responsibility do we have to keep that domain in glory to God?

>> No.10321109

>>10310549
>>10310574
A lot of plants get eaten though, and some even depend on it for survival and have evolved to deal with it. Also, they likely don't feel pain as they don't have brains and nerve centers the way we do

>> No.10321351

>nature has intentions

LOL

>you can look at some organisms biology and infer what it 'ought' be eating

LOL

scientific illiterates..

>> No.10321380

>can eat raw beef (steak tartare)
>can eat raw fish (sushi)
Yeah

>> No.10321402

>>10321380
You can also eat plastic

>> No.10321406

>>10320378
Humans are biologically herbivorous, thats an actual fact and doesn’t mean you can’t be a fat cuck that eats meat

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10321409

Unnecessary to live in most places, but clearly a plus to consume like anything, in moderation.

>> No.10321582

>>10321402
And digest it so that your body will receive nutrition?

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>>10312518
It's pretty much all fish though and they eat it raw to conserve vitamin c. They still get to forage plants during the short summers as well.

>> No.10321723

>>10320455
This.

>> No.10321771

>>10316002
This is a bad opinion.

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>>10316366
>A frogposter bragposts, claiming to be a healthy, attractive vegan
We're hitting levels of cancer that shouldn't even be possible.

>> No.10321787

>>10310510
yes. but you do whatever the fuck weird shit you want.

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>>10321409
>A reasonable opinion on 4chan
How did you get here? Why did you come here?

>> No.10321801

>>10310510
Humans have been cooking meat over a fire for a million years.

>> No.10321889

Yes. The only reasons that we lack the super short intestines and pure rip and tear teeth of carnivores are because of our omnivorous diet and the fact that we basically jump started our evolutionary shift and sped it up by several generations by eating meat in its more easily digestible cooked form which allowed for very little physiological change. There is not a single ape species on this planet that will forgo some form of meat or animal based protein when the opportunity arises. Vegans that disagree with this are objectively retarded.

>> No.10321900

>>10313188
>but it's not not meant to be consumed either. We can eat it to get energy, but that doesn't mean we should eat it or that it's optimal.
With that logic you could say the same thing for vegetables you stupid nigger.

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>>10320476
found the kiwi

>> No.10322432

>>10321406
Omnivores

>> No.10322437

>>10322432
Habitually, not biologically

>> No.10322449

>>10310519
fpbp

>> No.10322456

>>10322449
Please stick to your containment board, cancer

>> No.10322458

>>10322437
Your teeth say otherwise faggot.

>> No.10322459

>>10322437
>what are teeth

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>>10322458
>>10322459
Oh yeah those 4 blunt teeth we have sure make us omnivores!!!

are you gonna tell me this isn’t herbivore either because MUH TEETH

Fat fucking retards

>> No.10322515

>>10322469
>this fanny flustered vegan on a Cambodian basket weaving forum

kek

>> No.10322529

>>10322515
>get utterly annihilated

>y-you mad

Dairy fairies in a nutshell. Try not lactating through the tears, chubs

>> No.10322544

the moment anyone talks about domesticated lesser animals as if they're just like humans is the moment they admit they're equal to lesser animals, literal subhumans. it is wrong to kill a man, but not to kill lesser animals. Cannibalism is wrong because it is wrong to eat other humans, but not eating lesser animals. If anything, eating meat on the mass industrial scale that we do now symbolizes and signifies man's place as ruler of this realm, second only to God

what of the "ethical and moral" vegetarians/vegans then? cowards who choose to place themselves equal to brainless lesser animals , because they probably are brainles lesser animals themselves

Eating meat is dominion and strength, not submission and equality

>> No.10322570

>>10312518
and that's fine if you are genetically descended from those tribes, who mostly have all sorts of problems from not being able to handle starch anyway.

agricultural people need no more than 4 oz meat per meal. veganism is also dumb

>> No.10322574

>>10322544
Youre a fat fuck insignificant retard. If a sky fairy gave a shit about you, you wouldn’t be a cringey retard preaching on a cooking board on a hentai forum you pathetic fuck

>> No.10322582

>>10321889
actually you're retarded. You're attributing solely to meat that which can be attributed mostly to enhanced calorie gathering and cooking.

also you should eat meat anyway, your logic is just wigger

>> No.10322658

>>10322544
>Cannibalism is wrong because it is wrong to eat other humans, but not eating lesser animals
Fun fact; when you die, bugs and worms are gonna eat you. How does this make you feel?

>> No.10322667

>>10310510
What the fuck does "meant" to do even mean man. Seriously. You weren't designed to do anything you're just a continuation of millions of years of weird shit. If you can eat meat and you like eating meat do your thing.

>> No.10322689

yes because you can survive eating it unlike eating concrete or cardboard

>> No.10322690
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10322690

Omnivore

>> No.10322714

>>10322469
primates are omnivores dude. they eat insects and birds and shit. most monkeys practice cannibalism. gorillas eat each other's young. read a book. go outside. have sex with someone.

>> No.10322740

>>10322714
You seem to still not understand the distinction of habit and biology. For example, you huff paint because youre a failed abortion, huffing paint isnt biologically advantageous or even neutral. You seem to be under the impression that herbivore means vegetarian, it doesn’t. Its a heavily plant based diet which most primates are. Their meat comes almost entirely from insects, most do not practice cannibalism that is a recent anomaly and not remotely a common practice

How about you lose your bitchtits and scold your mother for drinking too much during pregnancy to make you such a retarded JRE listening fat stupid fuck

>> No.10322746

>>10319122
>'should we be flying? The penguins don't and they don't ever crash into windows.'
I'm not even that sold on the point but faggot come on.

>> No.10322835

>>10321109
>evolved to deal with getting turned into my shit
Cunt plants

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>>10322740
you being this mad is making me kinda horny

>> No.10322933

>>10320378
sounds like you don't know a thing about ethics. read some philosophy brainlet

>> No.10322948

>>10322740
Hahahahahaha holy fuck

>> No.10323059

>>10322933
there is literally nothing unethical about eating non-humans whose entire existional pupose was explicitly made to be eaten. Otherwise, if they weren't made to be eaten not as much of them would have been born, with the wild varients STILL eaten by other apex predators

>> No.10323077

>>10323059
Literally the most retarded thing I’ve ever read on this website. I’ll skullfuck your hollow head then eat you because youre nonhuman, faggot

>> No.10323079

>>10322658
I feel indifferent as I would have died naturally beforehand, having lived a nice long life of eating meat. Bugs and worms weren't the cause of my death, because I die when God deems it necessary, not to the whim of extremely lesser animals like insects

>> No.10323089

>>10323079
Ebin bait

Im your only God, go eat a tide pod, fag

>> No.10323118

>>10323077
It is funny that you use such violent language against me, yet at the same time disagree against violent onto lesser animals for the purpose of meat. Truly if anything, you are just anti-human in favor of lesser creatures and that says a lot about the state of your kind in general.

>>10323089
Exodus 20:3

>3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me

Save your tide pods for yourself, I am sure your nutritionally inefficient if not outright deficient diet needs it

>> No.10323131

>>10323118
Its funny how you feign superiority as a human when youre barely anything more than a blubbery fat faggot who worships a kike on a stick

You’re as insignificant as the toilet paper i use to wipe my ass. You arent human. You mean nothing. Youre the remnants of your father failing to pull out fast enough

As your lord and savior i command you to fuck yourself with a rake you retarded fat worthless fuck

>> No.10323135

>>10323131
jesus christ dude, go have a wank and get high. you're starting to embarrass yourself.

>> No.10323144

>>10323135
Yeah im so embarrassed by the fact fat fucking retards like you have a 99% similar DNA structure to me

Ill get high, fuck your fat whore mother, then finish with a wank on the bible. Fuck you

>> No.10323161

>>10323118
Funny how the only way you can elevate your sense of self worth is to look down on other people.
Also, if you can justify killing other animals by viewing them as "lesser" beings then you have the capacity to extend that mentality onto other people whom you may view as "lesser" people, or maybe not even people at all.
Got a gun?

Finally, enjoy telling yourself that eating other people is wrong while you eat the body of Christ this Sunday at church you hypocritical child molestering faggot. Then burn a cross and sacrifice a virgin because they're "lesser" than you.

>> No.10323179

I've been eating meat my entire life and have been able to extract nutrients from it so... yes?

How can vegans possibly claim humans are herbivores when humans have been eating meat basically since we've existed?

>> No.10323181

>>10323135
DUDE WEED LMAO

>> No.10323184

>>10323131
>>10323144
Honestly I feel sorry for you. No doubt I will include you into my prayers, you need it.

>>10323161
I do not look down on people; in fact I celebrate them. It's the whole reason why I think people have dominion over lesser animals the same way God has dominion over humans.

>Also, if you can justify killing other animals by viewing them as "lesser" beings then you have the capacity to extend that mentality onto other people whom you may view as "lesser" people, or maybe not even people at all.
Some people ARE lesser people, but nonetheless because they are people then it cannot be justified to kill them. They are just to be left alone and prayed for, since any PERSON can always find salvation later in their life if they repent.

>Got a gun?
Yes, plenty. I go out hunting on a regular basis, as it is a great way to bond with my children.

>Finally, enjoy telling yourself that eating other people is wrong while you eat the body of Christ this Sunday at church you hypocritical child molestering faggot.
Christ is the son of God, so it is known that he had transcended humanity. There is no hypocrisy when the body of Christ symbolizes his place in divinity, not humanity. And as I had said earlier, divinity > humanity. Furthermore, you bring up the sin of pedophilia not knowing how much of it occurs in secular public schools, which includes atheists. The only hypocrisy here is from you, and that is quite sad.

>Then burn a cross and sacrifice a virgin because they're "lesser" than you.
The only burning here on the stake is fresh steak. As for virginity, I am married with children; I doubt the same can be said of you.

>> No.10323286

>>10323184
>I feel sorry for you.
>I do not look down on other people
Uh.
>I celebrate them
What does that mean?

>> No.10323301

>>10323286
feeling sorry for others =/= looking down on them. I feel sorry for them, because I know they are better than that.

>What does that mean?
It means that I value people over lesser animals, which is why I see no conflict when it comes to eating meat that's meant to be eaten by people.

>> No.10323319

Of course. If it wasn't, our bodies wouldn't be able to properly digest it or use its nutrients. If it wasn't, then cutting it out of your diet without supplementing with lab-made supplements wouldn't be an issue.

>> No.10323320

>>10313939
False equivalency

>> No.10323364

>>10323184
I already heard your prayers. Youre a fat faggot and I as your God command you to raise your test levels to not be a passive aggressive little faggot

Just imagine being such a low IQ retard you think any sky wizard cares about you and your blatant hypocrisy and disobeyal of his sandy kike book when its led to you being a fat psychotic miserable faggot preaching on a hentai cooking forum

>some people are lesser people
Lol are you your own God or something you dried cumstain? What a retarded hypocrite piece of shit you are. Ill be sure to pray to sky jew so your sins are absolved!!!

>> No.10323377

>>10323301
There’s nothing in the book i use as a cum rag that says anything about killing animals because they’re lesser. I dont consider you human and I consider you lesser. You have no legitimacy to disprove me

>> No.10323416

>>10316282
Nope. I like masturbating more than actual sex. But i got death grip and girls in real life would never let me fuck them in the ass, let alone gape them wide open.

>> No.10323421

>>10323364
>raise your test levels to not be a passive aggressive little faggot
as opposed to hysterically posting like a woman on her period tonight? Ah, you are very funny.

>Just imagine being such a low IQ retard you think any sky wizard cares about you and your blatant hypocrisy and disobeyal of his sandy kike book when its led to you being a fat psychotic miserable faggot preaching on a hentai cooking forum
I am not preaching, only explaining. The irony of "low IQ retards" seems lost on you, considering you are the one posting unimaginative ad hominems here, not me. It's almost entertaining if it wasn't so tragic, but you choose to do it anyway, so I might as well laugh at the situation.

>>10323377
>There’s nothing in the book i use as a cum rag that says anything about killing animals because they’re lesser.
I did not say animals are to be killed specifically because they're lesser; they are killed because they serve the greater animal of man who are made in his image.

>I dont consider you human and I consider you lesser. You have no legitimacy to disprove me
I couldn't care less about what you consider me, for it is God that I am concerned about, not the likes of people like you.

>> No.10323437

>>10310510
Yes. You have canine teeth. You are an omnivore. Eat the meat.

>> No.10323440

>>10323421
No, as opposed to being a passive aggressive fat bitch who considers himself holy and righteous while making backhanded remarks about how superior of a human he is because of his nonexistent moral arbiter judgment

>i am not preaching
Yes you are you retarded fat fuck. Nobody asked for some obese faggot who needs a spiritual crutch to justify how much of a retard to spew his sand kike fairytales to justify his hypocrisy and psychopathy. As your God, I command you to shut the fuck up and take a frying pan up your ass

>its almost entertaining if it wasn’t so tragic
Whats tragic is that you’ve devoted your entire retarded life to being pious yet can’t even pass up a cheap snide remark. Or was Jesus as much of a fat faggot as you? I don’t recall him every talking about “lesser creatures” or “lesser humans” but then again he was a sneaky kike who has an entire following of sneaky psycho fat fags like you

>> No.10323445

>>10323437
Monkeys have canines. Theyre herbivores

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>>10323445
what kind of vegetable is this?

>> No.10323461

>>10310510
No, from a purely biological standpoint, nothing is "meant to be" eaten by humans. A better question would be if humans were meant to consume meat. The answer to that is yes.

>> No.10323471

>>10323459
If you give a monkey a condom it’ll eat it. Doesnt mean much

>> No.10323472

>>10323471
If I put it a condom on a Penis you'll eat it, doesn't mean much

>> No.10323474

>>10323471
Chimps go out of their way to find and eat meat, they hunt smaller monkeys, some troops even go to war with other troops specifically to kill and eat other chimps, and they systems aren't nearly as good as ours when it comes to digesting it either

>> No.10323476

>>10323440
>because of his nonexistent moral arbiter judgment
So where do your morals come from then?

>Yes you are you retarded fat fuck. Nobody asked for some obese faggot who needs a spiritual crutch to justify how much of a retard to spew his sand kike fairytales to justify his hypocrisy and psychopathy. As your God, I command you to shut the fuck up and take a frying pan up your ass
Anon, you are nobody's God. I doubt you are even the God of yourself and your surroundings, let alone running a family, because you sound like a mess based on your incoherent speech. Once more, all very tragic stuff if it wasn't almost entertaining.

>I don’t recall him every talking about “lesser creatures” or “lesser humans”
It's called a bit of critical thinking, given that we are made in his image, not farm animals. Farm animals by the way, that we tamed and domesticated for our purposes to serve God since before Biblical times. The constant parallel between shepherds and sheep is clear all throughout the Bible too: man tends to his flocks the same way that God tends to man. If God is above man, so is man above lesser animals.

You can call me a hypocrite all you want, I have only explained consistently instead of mindlessly ramble and hurl insults.

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food and cooking

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>>10323474
they also eat insects all the time, they actually use tools to make it easier to eat them, they're absolutely omnivorous as are quite a few other species of apes and monkeys>>10323445
needs to read a book

>> No.10323482

>>10322740
i could live by only eating your tears

>> No.10323489

>>10323476
>where do your morals come from
Not you, you fat psycho faggot. I wasn’t even talking about Skynet. I was talking about your arbitrary judgment of others that doesnt fit any kike fairytale teaching. I learned how not to kick babies in the face from nature. Nature that has nothing to do with folding my hands and jerking myself off pretending Jew Merlin cares about what im saying

Or are you saying youd be an even more passive psycho fuck without some toilet paper scripture guiding you? You must be one of those lesser people

>you are nobody’s God
Im your God. Bend over, faggot, theres a rapture coming. Does being a follower of God include belittling people you think are unfit? Im starting to believe you’re just a LARPER, because even the most retarded of sky worshipping autists like yourself will concede when theyre beinf fat faggot hypocrites like you and give themselves a paddling while straddling their micrococks screaming Jewboys name

>its called a bit of critical thinking
A bit of which youre unfamiliar with evidently. Nowhere in my snot rags does it say “there are lesser humans, there are lesser animals, fuck them”

I as your one and only God hope you realize i dont give shit about your dumb ass and as a result youre lesser than the pigs anus you were conceived in

>> No.10323493

>>10323474
Habit doesn’t equal biology. Humans smoke habitually, it’s obviously not designed for our bodies optimal health however.

>> No.10323499

>>10323482
I could live by fucking your miserable failure of a father in the ass everyday. Which I do!

>> No.10323516

>>10323499
you're gold man don't change

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>>10323493
>Numerous species of ape and monkey known and observed to be omnivorous all over the world
>It's just a habit guys!

>> No.10323522

>>10323489
>I learned how not to kick babies in the face from nature.
...and who hath made this "nature"?

>Or are you saying youd be an even more passive psycho fuck without some toilet paper scripture guiding you? You must be one of those lesser people
The only lesser people here are those who proceed to embarrass themselves online voluntarily as you are doing. Good Lord, I'm certain that it's a sin for me to be laughing this hard.

>Im your God. Bend over, faggot, theres a rapture coming. Does being a follower of God include belittling people you think are unfit?
Not necessarily. You are the one who chose to demote yourself to be equal to lesser animals in this discussion, not me.

>A bit of which youre unfamiliar with evidently. Nowhere in my snot rags does it say “there are lesser humans, there are lesser animals, fuck them"
Nowhere does the good book say that I should stop fools from entertaining others either, but here we are.

>I as your one and only God hope you realize i dont give shit about your dumb ass and as a result youre lesser than the pigs anus you were conceived in
Again, I do not care what you think of me, I really don't. I care about what God thinks, not imposters. I don't know what you are trying to prove here, when there is nothing you can say to me or my family that would stop our everyday consumption of meat and the advocacy of such a delicious practice. I made posts to explain our perspective, yet here you are entertaining me to my great amusement.

And for that I thank you, because I've had a lot of good laughs at your childish banter.

>> No.10323527

>>10323520
Yes. Does the paint thinner you snort suddenly become biologically healthy because you and your sister-cousin do so everyday? You also seem to think herbivore means vegetarian, it doesn’t. It’s heavily plant based.

>> No.10323532

>>10310510
You've got it backwards, humans are meant to consume meat.

>> No.10323539

>>10323527
Chimps are scientifically classified as Omnivorous. You can scream your "MUH HABIT ISN'T BIOLOGY" all you want, you're still wrong, everyone who knows anything about this subject knows your fucking wrong, and your just embarrassing yourself at this point

>> No.10323541

>>10323522
>who hath made this nature
Me. God.

>>10323522
>im certain its a sin
It is. Why would you laugh at and belittle people who you think arent well? Did Nigel Thornhat act like a passive aggressive fat teenage girl too?

>you are the one that chose to demote yourself
Are you God? Who are you to make such a judgment!

>nowhere does it say i shouldnt entertain fools
I guess it does say be a fat miserable on 4chan as your accomplishment for saying hail marys while Father Smith makes your tight end a wide receiver. Youre so obviously full of shit its hilarious you still try to feign piousness. Then again youre no kike on a stick. Youre a fat miserable fuck whod be a pedophile fat miserable fuck serial killer without his good kike book

>i do not care what you think
>as he gives yet another response
You should care Anon. I am literally God and this was a test you failed miserably. You failed to show any compassion for anyone but yourself alongside showing tendencies of being an unhinged pedophile. As a punishment youll have to take a scorching hot lead pipe up your asshole and scream my jew sons name to climax

I command thee

>> No.10323545

>>10323539
Yeah chimps, not every primate. Thinking for even more than half a second is hard when paint thinner and wild squirrels are half the diet innit?

>> No.10323567

>>10323541
>Me. God.
Excellent, then go magically force everyone to stop eating meat. Oh wait, lol.

>Why would you laugh at and belittle people who you think arent well?
Because if I was a bartender, I would have already said that drinking more is a bad idea, drunk. Yet it is done anyway, and well, who can really be blamed at this point when drunks continue embarrass themselves in public.

>Are you God? Who are you to make such a judgment!
I never said I was God either, and it is not a judgement if it's something people claim for themselves.

>I guess it does say be a fat miserable on 4chan as your accomplishment for saying hail marys while Father Smith makes your tight end a wide receiver. Youre so obviously full of shit its hilarious you still try to feign piousness. Then again youre no kike on a stick. Youre a fat miserable fuck whod be a pedophile fat miserable fuck serial killer without his good kike book
I recommend consulting a dictionary to remedy that level of redundancy in your petty insults.

>You should care Anon. I am literally God and this was a test you failed miserably. You failed to show any compassion for anyone but yourself alongside showing tendencies of being an unhinged pedophile. As a punishment youll have to take a scorching hot lead pipe up your asshole and scream my jew sons name to climax
Of course I will give you another response, and I will give you one more, and then another if need be. I'm at work on a long shift, it's a nice quiet night, and this person here is entertaining me. 4chan does not disappoint.

And again, I don't listen to false idols, nor do I listen to someone who continues to spout the pedophile meme despite secular public schools (not churches) also having incidents of pedophilia on a regular basis, atheists included.

>> No.10323577

>>10323567
Are you challenging your God’s powers? That’s very heretic.

>who can really be blamed
You. Unless you think sky kike would approve of this. But of courss youre a hypocritical fat fuck with no moral compass other than the inside of his own asshole

>I never said i was god
So why are you passing down judgment of who or what is lesser if not even stated by my cumrag? Thats right. You’re actually a miserable piece of shit

>I recommend a dictionary
Why not the Bible? Do you subconsciously feel its as much of a shitwipe as I do? Or is it Jesus plan to continuously belittle nonbelievers?

>of course i will give you another response
Of course you will. Youre a pathetic fat faggot that deep down doesn’t even belittle the cringey bullshit he’s spewing. God is still waiting for you to anally violate yourself with a pipe, faggot.

>> No.10323598

>>10323577
>Are you challenging your God’s powers? That’s very heretic.
You are not God, so no challenge needed.

>You. Unless you think sky kike would approve of this.
God gave us free will. You choosing to be silly online is not my fault, lol.

>But of courss youre a hypocritical fat fuck with no moral compass other than the inside of his own asshole
You've still yet to answer me where morals come from, and "nature" isn't much of an answer if God made nature as well.

>So why are you passing down judgment of who or what is lesser if not even stated by my cumrag?
Because it's not my personal judgment of what is or what isn't lesser, remember that this was deduced from God. The Bible does hint about the concept: Shepherds and sheep, man and his relationship with God. I'm sorry it didn't spell it out for you, but it kind of needs people to use the mind God gave them to understand some of the more subtle parallels.

>Why not the Bible? Do you subconsciously feel its as much of a shitwipe as I do?
I think it's good you are being honest with yourself in being open about how much of a shitwipe you are, but no, the Bible is the word of God, whereas the Dictionary is a better collection of words and their meaning. Pro-tip: you can use both at the same time to gain a better understanding and develop your vocabulary.

>Of course you will.
And I do so happily, because you are a very funny person, I will give you that.

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sixty more posts until autosage

>> No.10323618

>>10323598
I am God. You are challenging me. God is in all of us. But irrelevant to that retarded point I literally am God

>God gave us free will
So despits virtue signaling you still decide of your own accord you decide to be a psychopathic pedophile? What a pitiful existence, Me Bless your soul

>youve still yet to answer me
I answer no one. Im God. I created morals that according to you apparently dont even require my teachings. Getting a bit uppity arent we you little
disobedient faggot

>its not my personal judgment
I dont recall ever commanding any kike to write “some humans are lesser than others” thats just you being a miserable worthless piece of shit

>how much of a shitwipe you are
Why do you talk to God like this? I have not taught you to act like this. I command you to fuck yourself with a crucifix you self absorbed cocksucker

>funny
You find the idea of heresy funny? Satan’s gonna have a hell of a time with your asshole, faggot

>> No.10323622

>>10323604
I'm really upset that the most recent editions really pussified all the art work

>> No.10323634

>>10323618
>I am God. You are challenging me. God is in all of us. But irrelevant to that retarded point I literally am God
You can repeat this all you want, that does not make it true. And like I said, if you really were God, then just make people stop eating meat if it bothers you so much. Oh wait...

>So despits virtue signaling you still decide of your own accord you decide to be a psychopathic pedophile? What a pitiful existence,
You are the one who decided to be the fool here, not me, lol.

>I answer no one. Im God. I created morals that according to you apparently dont even require my teachings. Getting a bit uppity arent we you little
disobedient faggot
Again, you can repeat it all you want but that does not make it true. The real God sees through your nonsense.

>I dont recall ever commanding any kike to write “some humans are lesser than others” thats just you being a miserable worthless piece of shit
I don't either, which is why the real God hints it in the Bible. I am sorry if some people really are lesser the same way how criminals, rapists, actual pedophiles (which yes, includes atheists), and other undesirables of society are lesser people as a whole. Frankly I'm thrilled right now at this time of night, paid by the hour. The only one who seems to be miserable and [financially worthless] is you.

>Why do you talk to God like this? I have not taught you to act like this. I
Because you are not the real God, and you have not taught anybody anything. Other than that you're a very silly and funny person, lol.

>You find the idea of heresy funny? Satan’s gonna have a hell of a time with your asshole, faggot
It's very funny coming from a person like you, if not downright hilarious

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>>10323184
>I do not look down on people; in fact I celebrate them.
>>10323634
>some people really are lesser

>> No.10323642

>>10323634
>that does not make it true
Stop challenging God, bitch. Nothing you say is true. God can do what he wants.

>you decided to be a fool
And you decided to be a psychopathic pedophile that belittles nonbelievers like an estrogenated teenage boy. Is that kosher or something?

>the real God
I am the real God and I see through your phony exterior.

>God hints in the Bible
Oh so now youre holy enough to just willfully interpret my word as whatever? Are you my idiot kike son that got stuck on a stick? You must be one of those sheep i was talking about, the one retarded enough to follow a cumrag for its word despite it apparently being open to interpretation and discretion by any fat faggot retard like yourself

>its very funny
So you continue to laugh and belittle at such a serious subject about your God? You better pray my fairytales aren’t real because your own psychopathy and self-appointed divine interpretation is sending a pitchfork straight up your ass

Enjoy hell, faggot

>> No.10323659

>>10323641
You seem to imply a contradiction, but there isn't one. The same way how one can celebrate chefs as a whole, but can also say that of course some chefs are better than others.

>>10323642
>Stop challenging God, bitch. Nothing you say is true. God can do what he wants.
Exactly, which is why you aren't God.

>And you decided to be a psychopathic pedophile that belittles nonbelievers like an estrogenated teenage boy. Is that kosher or something?
Not kosher, but believe me there's plenty of salt here for sure.

>I am the real God and I see through your phony exterior.
Chuckled harder than I should have, even though you keep repeating it.

>Oh so now youre holy enough to just willfully interpret my word as whatever?
Clear hints isn't "as whatever"

>So you continue to laugh and belittle at such a serious subject about your God?
I'm laughing at a fool on 4chan personally entertaining me during my late night work shift, yes, and it's still very funny.

>Enjoy hell, faggot
I am no sodomite, but at this point the same cannot be said of yourself based on your language.

>> No.10323670

>>10323659
I am God. Im choosing not to do anything. Impressed yet?

>clear hints
“Clear hints” isn’t “fat fuck retard can interpret hy scripture to his discretion”

But then again you might be right. You just must not realize youre a brain damaged sheep that follows adlibs even his retarded ass can apparently command unto others

>im laughing at a fool
You’re laughing at God. We’re all God. Why would you laugh even at a fool and not help him?

>I am no sodomite
Youre a fat miserable worthless faggot who thinks he’s almighty enough to tell others who’s superior to others while browsing a hentai forum at Me knows what hour

Im actually laughing at how much of a pathetic loser you are and how miserable on the inside you truly are. Me Bless bro! Enjoy hell for not obeying me!

>> No.10323677

>>10323659
>same way to celebrate chefs

>there are lesser lifeforms, like there are lesser humans

>> No.10323690

>>10323670
>I am God. Im choosing not to do anything. Impressed yet?
How original, lol.

>“Clear hints” isn’t “fat fuck retard can interpret hy scripture to his discretion”
It's not my discretion either.

>You just must not realize youre a brain damaged sheep that follows adlibs even his retarded ass can apparently command unto others
I think you're being far too descriptive of yourself

>You’re laughing at God.
That is again, implying that you are God.

>We’re all God.
And this is how I know you're not God, because there is one God not "we're all God". Poor show.

>Why would you laugh even at a fool and not help him?
Because fools can also help themselves, especially at scenarios of their own doing.

>Youre a fat miserable worthless faggot who thinks he’s almighty enough to tell others who’s superior to others while browsing a hentai forum at Me knows what hour
But I don't think I'm almighty at all, I'm not the one claiming to be God here, remember.

>Im actually laughing at how much of a pathetic loser you are and how miserable on the inside you truly are.
Laughter is good, I'm glad you're having a great time too. I'm not too sure about that last bit though, I actually feel great right now from coffee.

>>10323677
I still don't understand what you mean, and I still don't see the contradiction. Some chefs are better than others, and yes, some lifeforms are lesser than others. Even vegetarians consider insects to be lesser compared to say, livestock. And the most stalwart of vegans consider plants to be lesser too, I mean let's stop pretending and point the obvious here when there's a clear hierarchy of what each group thinks is better over worse.

In fact, I'd venture to say that for the ethical/moral vegan-vegetarian argument to have any meaning, they must necessarily say that meat eaters are lesser compared to non-meat eaters. Otherwise, what would be the point if it's all equally "good" in that sense. Fancy that, in reverse.

>> No.10323731

>>10311029
>>10320454
What are you talking about? The glans is shaped to scoop out the semen from previous partners. The second anon must be a mutant if his foreskin stays on during penetration.

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>>10323690
>I still don't see the contradiction
you claimed that you don't look down on your fellow man yet you went on to exclaim that some men are worth less than others. that's a judgement call. one that i don't think you're entitled to make.
see how i just judged you? how does this make you feel?

and let me tell you something else;

the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. and i will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt reach behind them or fail to KEEP THEIR LEGS CROSSED. AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS PHILIP BRAILSFORD WHEN I LAY MY VENGEANCE UPON THEE.

>> No.10323766

>>10312599
semantics
>>10320428

>> No.10323794

>>10323749
>you claimed that you don't look down on your fellow man yet you went on to exclaim that some men are worth less than others
But what I have said is true and remains consistent? I'm not looking down on fellow chefs for recognizing and being aware that some chefs are better than others -- in fact this is the only way those lesser chefs can know there is room for improvement. Similarly, some men really are more valuable than others, some are just lesser in comparison. This is a good thing, because then growth is possible.

>that's a judgement call. one that i don't think you're entitled to make.
It's not so much a judgment call as it is just a matter of fact, independent of my personal judgment that some men are better chefs than others.

>see how i just judged you?
Not really, and if you did then it's a inconsistent judgment.

>how does this make you feel?
Nothing in particular, because the only relevant judgment is one from God. I don't see what feelings have to do with it either.

>and let me tell you something else;
You had told me something else, and it was also of little relevance.

>> No.10323843

>>10323794
>it was also of little relevance.
it was of relevence because it fed you the seeds of your response. you don't know how easily you just got played.

and i don't care to explain because you're always going to have a holier than thou attitude and you're never likely to be in a position to effect the quality of my life, other than losing a few minutes reading the news article about the mass shooting you did.

but you know you're desperately clutching at straws when you relate judging a person's skill level (ie. chefs) with judging the moral fibre of: >>10323634
>criminals, rapists, actual pedophiles (which yes, includes atheists), and other undesirables of society
who are deemed by you as being
>lesser people as a whole.
..and therefor sacrificial.

so much for:
>the path of the righteous man..
>who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper
seems you're not as righteous as you think you are. murderer.

>> No.10323888

>>10323843
>it was of relevence because it fed you the seeds of your response. you don't know how easily you just got played.
But I chose to respond, because I don't mind passing time given that I'm paid by the hour on this shift, lol.

>and i don't care to explain because you're always going to have a holier than thou attitude and you're never likely to be in a position to effect the quality of my life, other than losing a few minutes reading the news article about the mass shooting you did.
But I'm not trying to change the quality of your life either, be what you are, it is God's judgment not mine.

>but you know you're desperately clutching at straws when you relate judging a person's skill level (ie. chefs) with judging the moral fibre
The principle is the same. If morality is established as recognized by God, then it only follows that some are more in line to that morality than others, some people lesser than others.

>who are deemed by you as being ..and therefor sacrificial.
>sacrificial
Lmao, I am sorry but you are completely mistaken if you think anybody is "sacrificial". Remember, I said that anybody can always find salvation and repent, including those same criminals, rapists, and actual pedophiles. God will judge them, not me, there is no sacrifice needed.

You seem to think that if some people are lesser than others, then they should be killed or something. This is not the case, and is why humans are unique, because we have been given free will. A man can always redeem himself from being lesser at any time, whereas a lesser animal will always be lesser, it lacks the capacity of any moral choice. To put it mildly, if a wild tiger kills a man we do not consider it murder of a man since tigers lack any moral choice -- the man is blamed for choosing to place himself in that situation. However when one man kills another in cold blooded murder, he chose to kill, he made a poor moral choice. That property is what makes us above lesser animals.

>> No.10323900

>>10323843
>so much for:
>seems you're not as righteous as you think you are. murderer.

I don't see how I'm a murderer when again, and I say this time and time again, that I celebrate all people. This does not mean that all people are equal no matter what they do, some are lesser than others, because some have made worse moral choices than others. In the end, God judges, and one can only repent while he can.

In regards to lesser animals though? They have no moral choice, so of course they can be slain for meat. They are not people, and certainly not equal to people. They serve us, not the other way around, the same way how man can serve God as a lesser creature before him.

>> No.10324200

>>10323059
>existional purpose
nice teleology babby

please read some more you filthy brainlet, you might realize how much of a dumb little immoral brainlet life youre leading

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WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL HERE

FUCK EACH OTHER OR KILL EACH OTHER JUST GTFO

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.10325394

>>10324821
Because vegans are quite angry

>> No.10325670

>>10321109
They absolutely feel pain

>> No.10325882

>>10325670
No way that can't be true.

>> No.10327099

>>10324200
Yes, existential purpose exists. If I need say, something to sit on, the chair I built's purpose was for me to sit on it as it would not have come into being had I not need a thing to sit on. Lesser animals, like objects, do not have the capacity of moral choice, so when we need food and deliberately breed the most delicious of them into being, then their purpose was to be eaten. Otherwise, they would not exist in the first place.

I think it is you who need to read more, or better yet, think more, rather than proceed to hurl insults at things you do not understand.

>> No.10327129

>>10310549
What about fruits? They are made to be consumed my animals to spread the seeds.

>> No.10327149

>>10310510
We're apex predators. Yes.

>> No.10327164

>>10310510
Name one herbivore that is on the same level mentaly as an equilvent carnivore. Meat is the reason why humans are smart. Complex proteins and shit. Takes more intelligence to hunt then graze.

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>>10322740
>>10323077
>>10323089
>>10323131
>>10323144
>>10323161
>>10323364
>>10323377
>>10323440
>>10323489
>>10323527
>>10323541
>>10323577
>>10323618
>>10323642
>>10323670
>>10323749
>>10323843
Jesus fuck. Your protein deficiency has you all buttblasted. Eat a steak you cranky little woman.

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>>10310510
Meat tastes good and meat replacements don't.
This will only change once some company can create something that tastes good to replace it.

>> No.10327831

>>10327816
The problem is that people think it needs to be replaced.
Stop trying to make passable (at best) meat substitutes and instead make something that's good on its own merits without having to imitate something you consciously choose not to eat. If you really didn't want to eat meat, you wouldn't have to "replace" it, you'd just eat something else.

>> No.10327889

>>10312957
Can you imagine forcing yourself to eat 10 pounds of leaves every day?
I've seen the video before, and her(?) gut visibly expands far beyond what looks healthy. I was honestly surprised that the stomach didn't rupture.

>> No.10327965

>>10316323
True but rape is a cultural concept. Animals have no concept of rape, and I'm willing to bet neither did pre-societal humans.

So in that sense, having sex with somebody without consent is as much a part of our evolution as eating meat, and I think that's the point that guy was trying to make.

>> No.10327993

Doesn't the most "optimal" human diet consist entirely of legumes and bugs anyway?

>> No.10328003

>>10327965
>and I think that's the point that guy was trying to make.
The point he's trying to make is that all men have or will eventually commit rape.

>> No.10328007
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Id just like to give my endorsement to a new steak I discovered.

I was short on money. I shop at a retail cooperative called Shur Fine. I wanted some sort of steak.

I found something that was well over a pound, a porterhouse. But it was starting to look a litter rough. Im new to cooking, but it was a deal at only $5.30

I am no steak expert and new to cooking. So I cant give expert opinion, just mine.

I was cautious because it was from Mexico. On one hand, I dont know what their standards are, but on the other, I know they are true cowboys all over Latin America and know beef.

The brand was called Sukarne, which I think sort of means 'your meat".

Anyways, I just wanted to report that it was just fine; very good in fact. It was the biggest steak I ever personally cooked. I am assuming thats why it seemed lighter in color when done to medium (by accident, the light color was confusing me, I was shooting for rare)

So just a vote of confidence for Sukarne if you see it. Was it light after cooking from being so big and thick? I use gas. I thought maybe it was too big for my tools and experience. It tasted fine, it was just odd to see steak light like that. It was fine before it went in, so I assume it was something I did or didnt do regarding heat. I did sear both sides a bit, used some olive oil and seasoning.

I always wanna share pics of my food but never wanna take the time and let it get cold, and never think about it till much later.

Anyways, Mexi-beef seems alright, Sukarne that is. Good deal too.

>> No.10328032

>>10327993
highly doubt that, given that genetics makes some diets more "optimal" to that specific individual compared to others. It's ridiculous to say that any one diet is the best for absolutely everybody, and while there are guidelines on what's healthier to eat in general, the "optimal" just cannot be said for everyone as an absolute due to so many variables that are beyond mere preference.

And this means meat may be optimal for others the same way how dietary vegetarians find that their diet works for them, and them only.

>> No.10328058

>>10328003
His point was to show the absurdity of arguing that eating meat is what we're supposed to do because we evolved that way, when the same argument can be made for rape.
>The point he's trying to make is that all men have or will eventually commit rape.
Quote me the part where he said that.

>> No.10328089

>>10328058
So despite the fact that our bodies are clearly very good at obtaining, eating, and processing meat, as well as the fact that our bodies require nutrients that, for the most part, are not naturally occurring outside of meat, you're saying that humans did not evolve to eat meat?
Not only that, but you're saying that claim is on par with claiming we evolved to rape?

You're delusional.

>> No.10328408

>>10310510
Yes, if it turns to poop. Then yes. If you can't turn to poop then no

>> No.10328449

>>10327099
this is hilariously fallacious, please read something besides aquinas and the bible

>> No.10328942

>>10314177
Many vegans look old people despite being fairly young.

>> No.10328955

>>10315262
kek

>> No.10329264

>>10310549

When you walk across the grass, can you hear it screaming at you?

If so, you need professional help.

>> No.10329303

>>10328449
>this is hilariously fallacious
I'd be interested to hear how so.

>please read something besides aquinas and the bible
At least I read.

>> No.10329328

>>10310510
In a completely literal sense, maybe. It depends on which official definition of meat one uses.

>> No.10329347

>>10310510
it doesnt matter

>> No.10329353

>>10310510
i like to smoke meat if you catch my drift lmao

>> No.10329418

>>10321672
in Canada it's all seal meat

>> No.10329539

>>10316214
I'll never understand why using paragraphs is "reddit". It makes shit easier to read when it isn't greentext.

>> No.10329552

>>10316569
I know that you're trolling but that's obviously a hopelessly retarded fallacy of composition. here's your (you)

>> No.10330307

>>10310510
yes.
I've seen the docs and shit. I know what I'm eating and I probably won't stop.

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>>10328007

Just bought another. T-bones for $6 is addictive.

I like steak not just because its tasty and nutritious. A big part is that its just so easy to make. Its even faster and easier than burgers.

I wish I understood the different types though. I only know of four types; t-bone or porterhouse, rib-eye or delmonico, filet mignon and strip.

I dont understand the attraction to mignon. I dont know what my favorite is. I see things like chuck and sirloin but dont know anything about them yet. I know the difference between the first four but not the others. It was hard enough getting the hang of the other three.

There was this gi-normous chuck steak, huge, and it couldn't have been more than $6. I never learned to cook a chuck steak though, and even I could not eat that much steak in one sitting.

>> No.10330671

>>10330669
Oh my God...how could you eat such a poor defenseless animal? It has feelings you know.

>> No.10330802

>>10310526
> all our teeth are flat?
Why the fuck are all of your teeth flat?

>> No.10330830

>>10330669
>I dont understand the attraction to mignon.
It's the tenderness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XegL32Btzs

>> No.10330907

>beleiving in god
I knew we had some tards here but come the fuck on.

>> No.10331622

>>10330907
>believing that eating meat is immoral/unethical
I knew we had some tards here but come the fuck on.

>> No.10331722

>>10331622
Most vegans are mentally ill.

>> No.10331752

>>10331722
*All vegans are mentally ill.

>> No.10332599

>>10331752
>only vegans can see that murder is wrong
>and that's why they're mentally ill
all in all, it's just another
shooting at school.
we don't need no
education.
we don't need no
thought control.
no 44 magnum
in the classroom
teachers blast those
kids away
HEY
TEACHERS
BLAST THOSE KIDS AWAY
all in all it's just another
indespensible pawn...

someone's gotta teach you villians that murder is wrong
maybe if enough of you get murdered then it might sink in
and you can't eat meat without murdering an animal
ergo, meat is murder.

>> No.10332871

>>10332599
Murder only applies to human beings, not livestock (which are basically just objects and are treated as such). Don't believe me? A dog is a pet, private property of a... human. Lesser animals (re: not human) are property.

>> No.10332881

>>10332871
do you consider slaves to be "lesser" people? property of "real" people? Hence, the slaughter of that property is not considered "murder"?

>> No.10332902

>>10332881
Slaves are human beings, hence they cannot be property, and hence why murder of a slave is wrong. If anything, you only show your hand by how less you think of slaves if you consider them to be animals, instead of people.

>> No.10332915

>>10332902
is a work horse not a slave?

what's your definition of murder?

>>10332902
>show your hand
projection works against you.

>> No.10332920

>thread still being bumped after 300 posts
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>> No.10332923

>>10332915
>is a work horse not a slave?
Horses are not human beings, they lack the capacity of moral agency, so they are property. You can try to blur this line as much as you like, but it is crystal clear to most people who understand that human beings are different from lesser animals.

>what's your definition of murder?
To intentionally and deliberately kill another HUMAN being.

>projection works against you.
Not really, your posts are what's very telling here. Ready for round 2 by the way? I don't mind at all, I'm just starting another shift, lol.

>> No.10332933

>>10332920
New bump limit is 450 now.

>> No.10332962

We all know this isn't a real Vegan right? Just a shitposter role playing as one, no Vegan hardcore/mentally ill enough to unironically spout meat is murder would be caught dead on 4chan.

>> No.10332982

>>10332962
evidently not

>> No.10333029

>>10332923
>killing an animal isn't murder
cool story. go kill an endangered species and present the corpse to a police officer while telling him what you did. then shoot his police dog. you'll be fine, m89. it's not murder!

>>10332920
cheers

>> No.10333035

>>10332933
cheers! good to know.

>> No.10333047

>>10333029
>cool story. go kill an endangered species and present the corpse to a police officer while telling him what you did. then shoot his police dog. you'll be fine, m89. it's not murder!
Lol, that still wouldn't be murder, just property damage. Endangered species are the property of the state, and the police dog is obviously shared property between the state and the policeman. We say "that is officer X's dog" not "the police dog."

Try again.

>> No.10333212

>>10332871
>applying ontological status by historical convention and linguistic confusion

>> No.10333266
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10333266

>>10323888
>I am sorry but you are completely mistaken if you think anybody is "sacrificial".
John 1:9

>if a wild tiger kills a man we do not consider it murder of a man since tigers lack any moral choice -- the man is blamed for choosing to place himself in that situation.
nice. so basically; if a woman walks down a dark alley at night then it's her fault if she gets raped because she placed herself in that situation. it's not the rapist's fault because >>10323634
>rapists,[...] are lesser people as a whole.
who merely >>10323888
>lack the capacity of any moral choice
..by demonstrating animalistic levels of morality. cool victim blaming, brother.

fact is that many animals, that you consider to be "lesser" beings, have demonstrated a higher moral understanding than many humans and can peacfully coexist with all of God's creatures. and i place a higher value on the life of many animals, including my much loved pet cat, than the lives of many child raping priests. simply due to the fact that these simplistic animals have demonstrated a higher sense of morality than those "lesser" humans.
but tearing your statements apart at the seams by focusing on semantics won't change the fact that you consider killing another lifeform to be anything but murder. and even if i could convince you otherwise it wouldn't matter because i'm not even trying to prevent you from eating meat. because i eat meat too. but i'm not conceited enough to ignore the reality of the situation. if you kill something then you murder it. if that means i'm subhuman by your standards (>>10322544) then you have to live with the sin of vanity. not me. which is one of the seven dealy sins. you're literally murdering yourself.

fun fact: suicide is a sin too.
happy child raping, my brother's keeper.

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>> No.10333402

>>10333212
Could you explain further? I am curious by what you precisely mean.

>>10333266
>John 1:9
Jesus sacrificed himself though, so that is the difference and what made him unique.

>nice. so basically; if a woman walks down a dark alley at night then it's her fault if she gets raped because she placed herself in that situation. it's not the rapist's fault
Ah, but it is both the woman's fault for putting herself in an entirely preventable situation AND the rapist's fault for choosing to rape. Women have moral agency too, and that means moral consequences the same way that rapists have moral agency and moral consequences to their actions.

>..by demonstrating animalistic levels of morality. cool victim blaming, brother.
But my entire point is that animals do not have morality on the same level as humans, because they do not have moral agency or the capacity to choose. Furthermore, it cannot be "victim blaming" if both the woman and rapists are in the wrong -- it is only justice, because women are just as responsible for their actions as rapists are.

>fact is that many animals, that you consider to be "lesser" beings, have demonstrated a higher moral understanding than many humans
Can you prove it so?

>can peacfully coexist with all of God's creatures.
Is that why wild animals do not hesitate to attack humans?

Oh please, nature is a struggle of dominance. It is only natural that man reigns, the way that God reigns over man.

>and i place a higher value on the life of many animals, including my much loved pet cat
Again, I am not concerned with what *You* place higher value on, I am concerned with God and morality. Given a choice between having to save the life of a human or your pet cat, there cannot be any hesitation that human life is more valuable than lesser animals. I would gladly save your life over your cat, because again I celebrate people, not lesser animals.

>> No.10333430

>>10333266
>than the lives of many child raping priests.
Do you say the same for child raping public school teachers?

>simply due to the fact that these simplistic animals have demonstrated a higher sense of morality than those "lesser" humans.
Again, prove it so. I will be waiting.

>you consider killing another lifeform to be anything but murder.
Plants are lifeforms, and so by eating plants you effectively murder them as well, according to your definition of "murder". In fact, the mere act of breathing "murders" countless microbes in the air. Quite the mass murderer I'm speaking with then.

>but i'm not conceited enough to ignore the reality of the situation.
What situation? There is again, nothing innately immoral or unethical with eating meat. Lesser animals are just property to serve man, the same way that man is to serve God.

>if you kill something then you murder it.
Again, by that logic you would be killing plants too. It is just inconsistent, and quite hypocritical to have such a loose definition.

>if that means i'm subhuman by your standards (>>10322544) then you have to live with the sin of vanity. not me.
You are only as "subhuman" as you choose to be, which is the beauty of being human granted God-given free will. So no, it is not my choice, but yours.

>which is one of the seven dealy sins. you're literally murdering yourself.
Well now you're just being silly.

>fun fact: suicide is a sin too.
Then I pray you shall never commit to such a sin.

>happy child raping, my brother's keeper.
Oh no, I am not a public school teacher.

Try again once more.

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10333449

>>10333402
>>10333430
>so mad he maxed out the character limit

>> No.10333451

>>10313208
it was written in the stars. >>10322544
>because they probably are brainles lesser animals themselves
scary how accurate. the pet of choice. diet of choice. woman of choice is a reflection of the individual

>> No.10333456

>>10313208
it was written in the stars. >>10322544
>because they probably are brainles lesser animals themselves
scary how accurate. the pet of choice. diet of choice. woman of choice is a reflection of the individual. nature is ugly. every living organism eats one another.

>> No.10333504

>>10333402
>Given a choice between having to save the life of a human or your pet cat, there cannot be any hesitation that human life is more valuable than lesser animals
yet if you hold a gun to a police dog and threaten to shoot it the human officer would shoot you to prevent that from happening. he, and by extension; the state, value the life of that "lesser animal" than your life. that animals is, in your immoral world, merely a posession and the police would murder you to prevent you from damaging their posession (according to your definition).
how does this make you feel?

>my entire point is that animals do not have morality on the same level as humans, because they do not have moral agency or the capacity to choose.
>I am not concerned with what *You* place higher value on, I am concerned with God and morality
what you're effectively saying is that you personally have no moral judgement. you're merely acting on what you've been taught by God. your "morals" are merely instructions that you follow.
that's where you and i differ. i'm able to think for myself and decipher the difference between right and wrong. i trust myself to make that judgement.
you have no moral highground over me, because your sense of morality is limited only to what you've been taught. your moral learning curve is finite. while i'll continue to grow as a person and (hopefully) reach full enlightenment, which should qualify me as a worthy recipient of the keys to the kingdom as determined by saint peter.

but you've determined your own fate here on earth. happy hunting.

>> No.10333510

>>10333449
Most of it is just quoted greentext though, so I don't quite see your point

>> No.10333516

>>10333510
i'll show you mine if you show me yours

>> No.10333552

>>10333504
>yet if you hold a gun to a police dog and threaten to shoot it the human officer would shoot you to prevent that from happening.
Once again, it is property damage since the officer would rather not have his or the state's property be destroyed.

>he, and by extension; the state, value the life of that "lesser animal" than your life
Well obviously they would shoot in retaliation, you are the person aggressing on their property. It is only self-defense on their part, since for all they know you might shoot one of their officers as well.

>that animals is, in your immoral world, merely a posession and the police would murder you to prevent you from damaging their posession (according to your definition).
Yes, people defend themselves all the time against aggressors with guns threatening to shoot their property and potentially (for all they know) them too.

>how does this make you feel?
I don't feel anything about it in particular, it makes sense and if I was in their position, I would do the same. People who choose to brandish their guns so openly and point it at things they shouldn't point at should not be surprised if other people respond accordingly.

>what you're effectively saying is that you personally have no moral judgement.
Of course not, morality comes from God not from me.

>you're merely acting on what you've been taught by God.
There is little "teaching," a lot of what I talk about is natural and universal among human beings. People all over the world generally value the lives of human beings over lesser animals, and in fact some cultures would gladly consume your pet cat if they had the chance. Why? Because they value their human sense of starvation over lesser animals, naturally.

>your "morals" are merely instructions that you follow.
These are not *my* morals, but morals from God. And they are not so much instructions as they are moral guidelines; obviously people can and do regularly choose to ignore them, hence rape and murder.

>> No.10333592

>>10333504
>that's where you and i differ. i'm able to think for myself and decipher the difference between right and wrong. i trust myself to make that judgement.
And how is it that you differentiate between right and wrong? With your feelings? Do you understand how inconsistent that is, because if you can decide for yourself right and wrong, so can other people -- a rapist decides that rape is good and not bad, and so he does it absent of any real morality. This is your brain on your morality.

>you have no moral highground over me,
I personally don't have any moral highground, but God certainly does. That is what I have been saying.

>because your sense of morality is limited only to what you've been taught.
It isn't limited at all, because people can choose to break it and do break it all the time. Morality by God isn't by what's taught either, it is by what God provides as innate and universal to the human condition. The Bible is just what helps provide clarify for reference and further understanding -- isolated human groups still have a sense of morality even if they do not fully understand it.

And morality posits that man is more valuable than lesser animals.

>your moral learning curve is finite. while i'll continue to grow as a person and (hopefully) reach full enlightenment,
The only enlightenment you will ever accomplish by that logic is getting raped by a rapist, and while at gunpoint you ask him "why?" he will say: "Because according to ME and MY morals, I decided that rape is perfectly fine, haha!"

Very tragic stuff.

>but you've determined your own fate here on earth.
It is God that determines my fate, not me, I can only pray.

>happy hunting.
Gladly.

>> No.10333596

>>10333552
>These are not *my* morals, but morals from God.
if you have no morals then you are amoral. just a robot following orders. like a police dog. by your own definition you are a lesser subhuman.

or like a mod who manipulates a bump limit based on whether they think they're winning or losing a pointless dickwaving contest.

the enlightened see all.

>> No.10333615

>>10333596
>f you have no morals then you are amoral.
No, I do not have MY morals, I choose to follow God's morals. Thus, I have morals.

>just a robot following orders.
Robots do not choose whether to execute a program or not. Man chooses, and man can choose to be moral or immoral.

>like a police dog. by your own definition you are a lesser subhuman.
Police dogs do not choose, they do not have moral agency. I am not a police dog, so I cannot be a lesser animal.

>or like a mod who manipulates a bump limit based on whether they think they're winning or losing a pointless dickwaving contest.
Now this is just paranoia.

>the enlightened see all.
As you had said it yourself, vanity is a sin.

>> No.10333628

>>10333615
sorry but the time has arrived for me to go do a massive poop

but this really boils down to you following the word of God while i follow the rules of nature. often they differ.

if this thread is still alive tomorrow i'll continue to hand your arse over to you on a platter.cool fetish tho.

>vanity is a sin
only you see vanity where it doesn't exist.

>> No.10333736

>>10333628
>sorry but the time has arrived for me to go do a massive poop
But you have already posted on this thread.

>i follow the rules of nature.
...and who hath created nature?

>often they differ.
In what way?

>if this thread is still alive tomorrow i'll continue to hand your arse over to you on a platter.cool fetish tho.
Ah, the classic cowering out when cornered.

>only you see vanity where it doesn't exist.
Funny, coming from the self-proclaimed "Enlightened One"

>> No.10334759

>>10310510
Humans require vitamin b12 to function and survive, b12 was before supplementation existed, exclusively found in animal fats. Should we eat meat when the rate we produce and consume it at may not be enviromentally stable? That's up for debate but it's not up for debate that humans definitely evolved to eat meat.

>> No.10335102

>>10333736
>But you have already posted on this thread.
i've been trying to wipe the shit out of your eyes.
Ezekiel 25:17
>Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper

>...and who hath created nature?
the big did

>In what way?
with a bang

>Ah, the classic cowering out when cornered.
the true sign of a coward is to attack an opponent during a ceasefire

>coming from the self-proclaimed "Enlightened One"
there's no vanity in accepting a reality. i'm not vain because i'm smarter than you. i'm vain because i'm better looking than you.
even your own mother would attest to that, and you've got a face that only a mother could love.

but enough of this nonesense. unless you have any objections i'd like to settle this debacle right now.

i profess that to kill a life form is to murder that life form. be it an animal, plant, or even a religious deity. in fact the reason God won't kill Satan is because that would be an act of murder which is one of the seven deadly sins. despite your claims that murder only applies to humans and that is alegedly God's word; yet He Himself says otherwise through his actions. Funny how religion is littered with hypocracy. it's almost like was corrupted a millenia ago to be used as a means of controling the masses. even feigning moral principles as rules, and those who blindly obey feel an artificial sense of superiority for following instructions instead of thinking for themselves. they feel pride for being an obedient lap dog. i think it's sad, and as my brother's keeper i hope to enlighten as many as possible.

but right now i could murder a well done steak.

so unless you have any objections, and this remains the final word, then i have to assume that you agree with me and you accept that you've been wrong all along.

to kill an animal is to murder that animal, but that isn't neccessarily a bad thing.

any objections? didn't think so.
/win