/ck/ - Food & Cooking

STOP LIKIMG EHAT I DONT LIKE!1

Vegan food can be as simply as a diet of vegetables, whole grains, legumes, and fruits. How does that taste bad?

>>10435854
>crab pussy

>>10435854

Neither crabs, nor pussy, nor pussy crabs are vegan.

because if you're a bleeding heart faggot you might as well go all the way

>google search indicates

crab pussy is delicious you cunt

>>10435854
More people are going to google vegan shit because vegans have to desperately search for something they can scavenge whilst vegetarians can buy food anywhere.

>>10435854
So Vegetarians eat veggies and Vegans eat Vegetarians, right?

>>10435854
vegetarianism is for fucking pussies. commit all the way or just eat meat like a normal person.

>>10435854
I notice two things about vegans.
They have a cult-like behavior and guys who do this usually do it for they batshit insane girlfriends.

>>10435854
Bait, that article's logic is flawed.

>>10435933
Eating pussy is vegan as long as the person whose pussy you're eating has consented. Veganism is more focused on ethics than a true distinction between what is considered an "animal product". As a vegan, should you come across an unfertilized egg that was abandoned by a chicken that didn't live in captivity you could eat it. I've never heard instances of it, but fairly certain that if a vegan came across the carcass of an animal that had died a natural death they could eat it. Most probably would opt not to though.

>>10435977

Most vegans I know are heavily against zoos, but many of them have pets. What if you have a chicken as a pet? Is it unethical to eat their eggs?

>vegan this
>vegan that
>vegan vegan
O B S S E S S E D

>vegan food
Always makes me laugh when retards post that shit on /ck/. Fucking learn to cook.

>>10435938
This.
Looking up "vegan" doesn't make me vegan.
Hell, some of those searches may be people looking for a vegetarian recipe but they type vegan because they're lazy or they can't spell.
Complete non-article.

>>10435988
I believe some vegans actually do raise their own chickens and eat their eggs. In a case like that the ethical dilemma would be centered on whether or not chickens should be kept as pets.

It's unironically just a fad

It's just hype I think. I'm a semi-vegetarian (I eat only eat 2-3 servings of meat/fish a week) and I know several vegetarians and semi-vegetarians/pescatarians but I've never actually met a vegan.

I don't give a shit. Fuck vegans and their silly attention seeking.

>>10436290
>this is totally better than that thing I never tried because I'm poor!
dem sour grapes

>>10435854
These kind of people are getting more and more extreme and start to guilt trip vegetarians into becoming vegan because "you might as well be a meat eating nazi if you use anything animal"

Nonvegan food is just salty, greasy grey goop

I honestly feel bad for anyone still on an omni diet.

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>>10435874
Not bad, but pretty damn boring.

>>10436799

>>10436808

>>10435854
funny you should ask
island of inbred cucks

>>10436794
>>10436799
>>10436808
>>10436811

>more people are searching for the word vegan than the word vegetarian
>Clearly this means veganism is becoming more popular and has nothing to do with the vegan rage clickbait from the last month

>>10435854
>google search
>relevant proof of anything

>>10436811

It's only boring if you are boring.

>>10436817

"food"

>>10436829
Even you couldn't say no to that.

>>10436829

>>10435854
God, I hate picky eaters.

>>10436836
It's pretty easy when you break the social conditioning. You start to think of dead animal parts as to what it really is. It's no more appetizing than seeing roadkill.

Also, even if I did find it appetizing. My morals are more important than the pleasure i'd get out of it.

>>10435854
>one single year
Are you implying there were no vegans in the UK until last year?

>>10436867

>>10436867
Every living being dies.
Better not let it go to waste.
Now, if you criticise mass animal farming, I can understand that, which is why I buy my meat only from butchers and not supermarkets.
But death is by no means a bad thing, it's merely non-existence.
Dying is shit, but most animals are butchered in a very fast and painless way, which is better than what a lot of humans get.

>>10436896

The crispy, shortcake-like outside and the moist filling, with a cup of hot chocolate made with rice-milk was the perfect cozy food on christmas.

>>10435854
>vocal minority controls the image of a group much larger than itself
every time

>>10436917
but they live in captivity for the sole purpose of being slaughtered. They're bread and fed with that purpose in mind. It's a perversion of nature. I'm not entirely against eating meat per se but I'm for hunting it.

>>10436813
Why is it cookie monster?

>>10436823
>vegan cheddar
>>10436829
>carrot salmon
>>10436867
>grilled squash
Stop trying to make vegetables "meaty".

>>10436942
they can't into indian food so they spend the rest of their life looking for analogs

>>10436917

It's not a justification for me to kill, or contribute to killing. Animals are being bred to be slaughtered, so if there was no demand for it, there would be no meat to be wasted in the first place.

I was at that phase when I justified it with the humane and local part.
Look, I grew up around a farm and went to pig slaughters since I was like 6. Even about two years ago I'd bring lots of meat products from home, that I knew were kept and slaughtered by family members and from people and places I knew. The last meat dish I ever ate was deer that my friend hunted.

At the end of the day, there's no reason to kill an animal other than taste preference, which is essentially just a form of entertainment.

I wouldn't kill a dog, a cat or any other animal for no reason, so it doesn't make sense for me to do it to other animals, when the difference is only down to perception. While they don't all have the same abilities and intelligence,the way they sense the world around them, feel, fear and suffer is the same.

You could really justify any sort of violence or ill-doing with the same logic, that nothing really matters and everything dies anyways.

>>10436942

>spices
>sauces
>herbs

Stop trying to make meat taste like plants!

How the hell is grilled squash meaty anyways?

Why are you upset that people can enjoy the same tastes as you, without causing harm to themselves and the animals?

>>10435854
As humans evolve, we will become multiple species. Their fate yet unknown, one descendent is clearly an herbivore.

>>10435854
>people not knowing about veganism so they google it means it's more popular

>>10436933
>It's a perversion of nature.
Nature doesn't give a fuck about what we do.
And animal farming is part of our nature, it's how we adapted to our environment. Because it is much more efficient than hunting and increases our chances of survival.
Just like the lion rips his prey apart, we have realised the merits of captivating certain animals for food, to carry out certain tasks or to accompany us.
I don't recommend applying this to intersocial behaviour, but when it comes to survival, might makes right.

>>10435854
Vegetarian is a diet, and vegan is a political ideology, and you know how popular ideologies are these days.

>>10436867
Considering the fact that veganism is a neo-marxist application of critical theory, and marxim is the reasoning for the worst atrocities of the 20 century, it's hard to assume you have much of any morals at all. See, morals are a principles thing, and ideologies are a high ideals, low principles thing.

>>10436999
stronger predators makes stronger prey and in turn stronger predators removing natural selection from the process entirely is a perversion of nature.

>>10436516
Man, you're reeeaallly got be stretching shit to think romaine lettuce cores, toast, and some garnish is expensive shit. The only thing making this non-poverty food is the pretension of being prepared by a fancy chef.

>>10435874
What are you cooking the veggies, grains, and legumes in? Piss?

I could eat vegan for maybe a week but cooking is no longer a joy when you're vegan. Before anyone goes "NUH UHHH TRY THIS RECIPE XD", nah. I've cooked for vegans. Outside of roasting vegetables the fun and artistry of cooking is muted.

Most vegans I know don't know how to even boil water let alone cook for themselves. Most even are vegan to hide behind the fact they had a bad experience with food poisoning and think being vegan will keep them from getting sick (it won't) or they have an eating disorder and other mental issues and use their diet to mask it.

Oh and before anyone tries to put words in my mouth, no. I don't care about animals. I don't care about animals just about as much as a vegan doesn't care about Mexican drug cartels running the avocado industry or Chinese chillens putting together their iPhones.

you need animal protein or you'll go crazy. proven fact.

>>10436977
>Why are you upset that people can enjoy the same tastes as you

Because we know that those people are either lying to us and/or to themselves and we are calling out BS when we hear it.

It doesn't bother me that some people choose not to eat meat. But once they start to make silly claims like "it tastes the same" , "it's just as nutritious", or "it's better for the enviornment" then I don't hesitate to call BS.

I agree 100% that the average westerner eats an unhealthy amount of meat. And that the modern factory farming industry is wasteful and enviornmentally harmful. But proposing a "no meat" solution is swinging the pendulum too far the opposite direction. The healthiest and most enviornmentally friendly diet is a locally sourced LOW meat diet. Not a "no" meat one. And certainly not a no-meat diet that depends on overuse of chemical fertilizers, pesticides, and smoke-belching transportation of produce from long distances away.

The old-fashioned small farm diet is by far the best. The synergy is incredible: you eat mostly crops. The inedible (to humans) part of the crops get fed to animals, whose meat, eggs, and milk you consume sparingly. The animal's waste is the fertilizer for your crops; the animals themselves can reduce the need for pesticides and even do "work" on the farm. (i.e. chickens eat the insect pests from the vegetables, and do a great job prepping fields by eating weed seeds & tilling the ground for new planting while they scratch & dig for bugs) It doesn't get any healthier or enviornentally friendly than that.

>>10437026
>being this based

>>10437029
I don't doubt you but I would like to see some evidence if you got any you wanna provide.

>>10437036
...continued.

Sadly, people's desire for MOAR BURGERZ and out-of-season veggies has had a lot of impact on that system, and now we factory-farm animals, grow plants with all sorts of chemical pesiticides and fertilizers, and ship it all 'round the world on smoke-belching ships, trucks, and planes.

>>10437026
Oh. Bread and baking is nice but I have Celiac disease so I can't even eat regular flours. Shit. I would kill someone before I made them eat a gluten free bagel.

>>10437038
I think he is a bit confused and is referring to vitamin B12 deficiency. One of the symptoms of that is indeed mental problems.

>>10435951
lol some people have health conditions and being vegetarian is a great balance compared to all meats or all vegi diet.

>>10437045
Ah yeah. I don't know any vegan who supplements their diet with a vitamin. I know - just by touching her fingertips - that my vegan friend has been anemic for years (even before she went vegan) but she doesn't address it.

>>10436808
yeah but it tastes like shit

>>10436808
"Crispy"

You might as well go back to eating bacon after ingesting all of the cancer in your tofu from the American (assuming American) tofu fermentation process and the vegetable oil you used to fry it in.

>>10437036
BTW, modern monculture farming is just as bad for the enviornment as the factory meat industry is. Nowadays, the enviornmentally friendly practicies of crop rotation or letting fields lie fallow exist only in small scale farms. Supermarket produce depends on a massive amount of industrial chemical production.
"Organic" is no better--it still uses chemical pesticides and fertilizers, just different ones. GMO crops can be grown with fewer pesticides and herbicides, but they are still used.

A side effect of all this is that our meat and our crops don't taste very good either. Everything is bred for maximum growth and yield, and durability during shipping. Flavor is a 2nd tier concern, if it's a concern at all.

>New royal prince generation will be vegan and soylovers

>>10437068
This is why I opt for grass fed or at least local farmers meats. I can't even stand how conventional ground beef feels after eating grass fed for a few years. I was almost unable to afford it until recently.

I dumpster dive for produce behind trader Joe's. Lmao

Seems like a good place to ask. My friend said factory livestock is fed grain that isn't suitable for human consumption. I worked as a produce wagey for a while and was under the impression that livestock ate what the farmers initially deemed not up to standard to ship to stores/markets/retaurants. Other people have told me crop is literally grown just for livestock. Is it both?

>>10437095
It honestly depends. Feedcorn and hay are grown as specialized high-yield crops to provide biomass to livestock. Sometimes if a farmer has a bum year due to odd weather, a drought, or other issues, they will sell the subpar crops (typically corn) as feed. This functions as a kind of insurance against partial crop failure. The sold crops are edible, but not up to the discerning standards of American consumers. There are exceptions, such as pigs being fed spoiled food; such exceptions are still rare in commercial-scale operations, however.

t. worked on a ranch in flyover country

>>10437120
Guess that makes sense. I assume some of Monsanto's subsidiaries are solely for animal consumption.

>>10435854
That isn't accounting for all the hate googling people are doing
>why are vegans so gay
>whats bad about a vegan diet
>why are vegans so smug
>why are vegans sick all the time

>>10436867
>morals

Better stop eating plants then as they too are living beings and know when they are being attacked/killed.

>>10437134
>why are vegans so smug

This is the real reason I hate vegans. Being vegan in and of itself doesn’t bother me. It’s when a vegan goes, “Heh, at least I’m not a MURDERER!”

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>>10435854
I didn't even think you guys ate vegetables in the UK

>>10437391
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>>10437380
>literally ifunny tier mEmEz
absolute state of vegans
back to r*ddit you go

>>10437422

>>10437422
>back to redot
Wow how original, you must be new here

>>10435854
What's wrong with crab pussy, bitch? A little butter and hot sauce and you're eating in style.

Omg no don't eat poor animals you know they have to die for that?

Lmao who is against abortions. Only a piece of shit would not want to kill a baby. It's only a cluster of cells even if you hack it to pieces in the third trimester.

>>10435854
>google search indicates
>translation: Jewgle, a search engine that can easily be "bombed" with fake search criteria concludes that a random fad is more popular than what over 1.5 billion of the world's population has as their diet .

That really salts my watermelon.

The internet was a mistake.

>>10437599

>>10437599
>The third most requested recipe in the world is some t*rkroach slop
I dont habeeb

>>10437430
Let's get some real factual information and stats here instead. Here's 100 grams for each soy and beef. Note that there's slightly different results for different cuts of beef. The website used is,

http://nutritiondata.self.com/

Note that I included both raw (blue squares) and cooked (red squares) results. Also keep in mind that many chemical changes occur when food is cooked. Some nutrients are completely lost while others are created or made more bio-available after cooking.

>>10436977
loaded question

treat vegetables like vegetables, they are often full of starch and tannins and acidic fluids, you can either break them down gradually into flavors like you are supposed to or you can do silly shit like flame grill it then try to mask the mess by mixing it with wood shavings and overseasoning it which I am 99% sure you are doing

>>10437678
>nutritional facts doesn't examine data based on bioavailability
Brainlet

>>10437937
>not realizing that was simply an explanation of why the numbers are different between the cooked and raw versions of the same food and no bearing on how the data was attained

>>10435854
are you retard?
all that means is more people searched for vegan.
Probably because everyone knows how to be a vegetarian. You just eat chocolate and pasta like a fat fucking cunt.

>>10436516
Pretty sure everyone, even the poorest nigger in Africa, knows what leaves and bread tastes like.

>>10437937
>facts don't agree with incorrect, unsourced image
>muh bioavailability

>>10437022
it's also incredibly outdated

>>10437412
Owned

>>10437607
Muh jooz

>>10435854
Eating delicious, fatty cuts of beef and pork 1-2 times per week but keeping mostly vegan otherwise is the most patrician diet. Prove me wrong.

>tfw true omnivore and eat both vegan alternatives and meat
a true cave man doesn't give a fuck about diet - he is instead impressed by how passable the substitutes are. I actually like the fake meat over real stuff because its more consistent - just a shame it isn't cheaper.

>>10435854
That's not what that indicates. It indicates that it is harder to be a vegan so they need to do more research about what they can and can't eat. Vegetarians can just ask "hey is there meat in this" vegans have to ask that and also "is there butter, milk, worchester sauce, honey, eggs, something a pig once touched..."
That's a retarded article

>>10436811
I just had a boner

>>10436290
That looks so terrible, is that truly a Micheline star restaurant? Uncooked toast, a parmesan crisp, raw lettuce, and some sauces - arranged awkwardly with no clear way to eat these things together. Do you use your hands? Do you individually break off pieces of parmesan and bread to eat with a fucking huge piece of lettuce? Why are these things on a plate together. Fucking hell.

>>10436867
I find dead animals appetizing, I slaughter and butcher my own meat and when I see a gutted pig I salivate thinking about the delicious food awaiting me

>>10435854
>How the fuck are there more vegans in the UK than vegetarians after one single year?
There aren't. They simply don't understand what these numbers mean.

>>10435854
>google search indicates

>>10440197
>I actually like the fake meat over real stuff because its more consistent
Tastelet detected. I bet you cry when you have to eat meat off the bone or get a piece of tendon stuck between your teeth.

>>10440197
I know this feel. I saw pic related on clearance while shopping a few days ago, tried it last night and it was actually really good. All the meat substitutes that use a vital wheat gluten and tofu blend have a really satisfying texture to chew. It definitely doesn't taste like meat but it's still enjoyable every once in a while.

As for OP, I'm neither vegan nor vegetarian but if you can't manage to make good food without relying on meat, eggs or dairy then you're a shit cook.

>>10441818
Meat substitutes would be fine if it wasn't for the soy monoculture it promotes, which is shit for the environment and for human health. I love vegetarian food but there's a whole world of high-protein grains and legumes out there that can be put together in a huge number of combinations with different vegetables. In addition to being more interesting, it promotes better agricultural practices.

That being said, I'll never give up homemade chicken stock because it adds a certain mouthfeel to soups that can't be replicated.

Fun Fact: Brits invented veganism. In other countries, vegetarians have no problems eating honey and eggs.

So this is the power of veganism... woahhh

>>10435854
I'm always googling vegans to see what crazy shit they're up to this week.

Nasim is why

>>10436867
>My morals

you dont have morals lmao
you are just a coward who is indoctrinated with shame and guilt to the point of denying his own predatory nature

>>10435854
vegetarianism is for religious purposes, veganism is for everything else.

>>10435854
why would you ever care about this?

>>10442878
watch out, we got a badass here

I knew 3 vegetarian kids in my school when growing up. A boy who was raised vegetarian, normal but quiet, liked football, never mentioned it after that first conversation. A girl who was raised vegetarian, hippy parents, wore ribbons in her hair, has her nose pierced in year 5, but honestly never really talked about it.

Then... we have the landwhale ugly glasses bitch who decided to be vegetarian when she was 12. A disgusting unhygienic slob who, despite having no friends was a rude cunt to anyone who was nice to her.

I strongly suspect vegans evolved from proto-vegetarian landwhales.

Reminder That like 80% of prople think that vegan is just a fancy word for vegitarian

>>10437430
Are you not aware of how unhealthy tofu is and how much soy is genetically modified? Soy contributes to deforestation in Brazil just as much as cattle ranches do.

>>10435854
>crab pussy

>>10444111
Reminder that 67% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Secondary reminder, you don't even spell vegetarian.

>>10437048
>all meats diet
No one does that

>>10435854
>How the fuck are there more vegans in the UK than vegetarians after one single year?

they haven't fucking died yet m88 just you watch, it'll all balance itself out

>>10446303
medieval kings

Anyone remember maybe 10-15 years ago when veganism wasn't that much of a thing? At least in Europe it wasn't. And the discussion, if there was any, was about the different kind of vegetarian diets and that you don't have to commit to meatless diets. That there are vegetarians who still eat fish. Others eat light meat like turkey and chicken. In merely about 10 years this completely vanished aside from some fat girls who say they are vegetarians but still eat some meat, and girls who are would be vegan but are vegetarian because there isn't enough vegan restaurants in the city.
I think the vegetarians were overwhelmed by the vegans' militant nature and their shrieking on social media as a vegetarian actually has the same views but are less extreme.

>>10446909
I think a lot of "vegetarians" don't want to call themselves that anymore. I briefly knew a fitness trainer, very buff woman, who was mostly vegetarian, but would eat quality meats or other animal products in small amounts from time to time. She stopped associating with vegetarians as they starting going increasingly nuts.

>>10436867
>mfw recently tried scrapple for the first time and it's delicious

>>10437599
>Trump not on any of the lists
>"how to make slime

WTF?

>>10435854
>after one single year

What, there were no vegans in the UK two years ago?

>>10440671
>parmesan crisp

Not at a vegan meal

>>10436794
>They can eat everything I eat but also other things if they want to
>The poor dears

nah you just salty

>>10437041
>out-of-season veggies

This has zero environmental impact. You produce more CO2 driving to the nearest Whole Foods to get your Local Vegetables than is produced in the entire production chain, shipping included, when I walk down to my grocer to buy asparagus from Vietnam.

Local Food is interesting from a couple of different perspectives but it is definitely not environmentally better.

>>10437391
No it's definitely you. I could elaborate at length but I'm not going to; a meme poster deserves nothing but death.

>>10437607
You're missing the step where the world actually gets enslaved. How did you fucking not notice that you chiourme imbecile

>>10447038
>having an internal combustion murderbox
Cringed

Vegans disgust me.

Because veganism is in right now. Vegetarians are so '90s

>>10436482
That's not 'semi-vegetarianism', that's called having the average human diet before the 20th century. Unless you were a hunter or fisherman, you'd only eat meat once or twice a week because of money or religion.

>Being a vegan
>Being a vegetarian
>Being an omni
>Not eating a Jordan B. Peterson-approved all-meat diet
lol it's like you don't even care about your health.

>>10436306
If they're kept with enough space then why ever not? We do this too, keep them in a shed + "grazing" garden.

>>10447456
reddit also seems to have a large population of people that shit their pants regularly.

anyone ever see a 600lb vegan

>>10437016
Stronger Preadtors don’t make stronger prey

They make smarter ones.

And nature laughs in the face of your morals when it comes to survival

https://youtu.be/kQ_7GtE529M
Watch, as the powerul bison knocks over the caught young, shattering its legs in the process to use it to bait the wolves from chasing after the rest of them

>>10448335
They already have an eating disorder, give them a break.

>>10435854
Because the subhumans go out there why to let everyone know that they are vegan, whereas a vegetarian will just eat their damn food and get on with life.

>>10440671
>Uncooked toast
Do what now? That's physically impossible.

>>10448335
>meat makes you fat
I think people that have eating disorders dont care about what they eat. Do I need to drawn a Venn diagram?

>meat and dairy consumption is rapidly on the rise in china and india

get ready for the world to collapse once chinese people starts eating as much meat as americans