/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10467674
Modern liberalism is a mental illness

>>10467674
The sign? Yes. The post below it is nothing but fatty guilt. Nobody can rationally argue that eating five cheeseburgers is eating well.

>>10467691
I don't think you know what liberal means.

>>10467674
People are retarded.
>>10467691
Yes it is.

>>10467703
Neither does the left. It's not my fault that that's what it's become.

If being fat is ok, why do you have to crusade about it online? It's not like being gay or a woman or a furry or something where you'll get gassed and bombed in public over it.

>>10467768
>let's make shit up and pretend it's fact
Yeah, but that part IS your fault.

>>10467817
Fat acceptance is a movement that spawned from the left, idiot

>>10467811
Amerigan here. Who pays for fat people's medical costs?

>>10467821
That's like saying racism spawned from the right, idiot.

I don't understand where fat acceptance comes from. I was morbidly obese when I was 18 and all I ever felt was physical body pain. Trying to sleep was like waiting to die since it was just unbearable. You're always tired and never up to do anything. Losing weight is a positive thing.

>>10467817
>let's make shit up and pretend it's fact
Its funny because that's your dogma but you're too blind to see it

>>10467854
People don't like taking responsibility for their own failures.

>>10467855
Tell me more about how you know more about me than I do, kek.

>>10467854
It's (mostly) women that don't want to accept the consequences of over eating and they're too lazy to better themselves so they try to warp society's standards instead of losing weight which in a way would force them to admit they made a big mistake

>>10467865
Okay. You're gay and no older than 22 years old.

>>10467891
0/3, keep going champ.

>>10467854
Gues what: I comes from women.

>>10467821
>the entire Obama administration is Michelle touring the country fat-shaming obese kids and taking away their deep-fried chicken tendies
>claims "fat acceptance is a liberal thing"

>>10467865
nigger faggot.

>>10467927
You can't be this dense.

>>10467876
But isn' t it sad that these people have the power to do so? They fuck it up for everyone else.

The internet and social media was a big mistake. Right from the beginning it should' ve been regulated according to having a job and a steady income.

>>10467927
>Only one thing can ever happen, ever.
>The left or any group is homogeneous

>>10467821
>obesity rates are highest in the Midwest/southern states

>>10467939
Why are you still here?

>>10467674
Friendly reminder that fat positivity started off as an elaborate tumblr troll and real fatties came out of the woodwork and outnumbered the trolls.

>>10467920
Denial is the first step, legal

>>10467946
That's not the same thing. Fat acceptance is (usually) sjw women claiming there's nothing wrong with being obese or claiming that it's healthy so they never have to take responsibility or improve their lives.
Midwestern hamplanets just don't care

>>10467927
But it is a liberal thing. Fat conservatives don’t flip out acting like being fat is healthy. They just don’t give a fuck. Liberals are the ones who are always screaming about feelings. Conservatives don’t even have feelings except for hate and anger. If we actually felt normal human emotions, we wouldn’t be conservatives. Liberal faggot

are we being raided? There sure are a lot of retarded left apologists in this thread.

>>10467961
>insult doesn't work
>tries another one

>>10467960
Source on that?

are we being raided? There sure are a lot of conservatards in this thread.

>>10467960
I thought it started off as a way to prevent anorexia by criticizing the media's use of perfect photoshopped women, and then mutated into straight up promoting another, more common eating disorder.

>>10467979

>>10467995

>>10467979
We've been getting raided by leftist for years now. This is a conservative site, you're the intruder. Literally, unironically go back reddit.

>>10467674
if she knows that 'eating well' is subjective like she claims.. why is she throwing such a bitch fit? go 'eat well' ya fat cunt, no one cares.

>>10468001
>implying he's not just a falseflag troll
/ck/ has a lot of them

>>10467983
I think it's part of today's highly toxic "everyone is a winner" mindset. No, not everyone is beautiful. Or athletic. Or smart. Or anything else for that matter.

>>10468001

>>10467674
Eating well for gym people is eating at least 2k calories

>>10468021
>the leftist slogan

>>10467840
You

>eating well is an offensive statement
>but also eating well is a good thing by my own definition

>>10468021

>>10468039
I can't even handle the irony...

>>10467674
If you are eating 5 cheeseburgers in one sitting you are not eating well or healthy. If you are doing this you don't respect your life or your body.

My question is what was a blubbernaut doing at a gym in the first place.

>>10468001
>This is a conservative site
Actually it's a weeaboo site.

>>10467674
Holy shit talk about being sensitive about eating disorders.

>I'm offended at a sign that praises people for taking care of themselves.
Not sure if this is a fatty or a person defending fatties, but the fat left, I mean far-left need to re-evaluate their lives. No one was attacking you, this is just a pathetic attempt to justify what you know to be wrong.

>>10468073
Obviously there to virtue signal.

>>10468073
>what was a blubbernaut doing at the gym
getting the free donuts of course

>>10468088
>implying weebs aren't right-wing

>>10468099
Planet fitness does free pizza and donuts every time you come in, there's pics of people eating pizza while on the machines.

>>10468115
kek.

>>10468115
>Planet fitness
Does not really count as a gym.

>>10467674
the interesting thing is that the sign doesn't specify what "eating well" means. It's entirely possible it's intended to mean eating what feels good. The comment below is seeing fat-shaming where there is none.

>>10468136
>>10468120

>wanting to lose your subscribers after they lose their 5 lbs

Do you even business?

>>10468073
my friend eats and drinks like 3-4 big in n out burgers and neopolitan shakes but he needs the calories to maintain his powerlift regiment

>>10468146
found the jew

>>10468146
Let's not act like that's is unique to PF. They can pack in 50:1 subscribers to capacity with a $10 subscription, but an actual gym can do 15-20:1 with a $30 subscription.

Just because their model of catering to gluttons works as a business doesn't make them a real gym.

>>10468167
>being successful in business is exclusive to Jewish people

>>10468177
being absolute scum to other people for money is exclusive to jewish people.

>>10468183
>being a scumbag in business is exclusive to Jewish people

You don't become successful without stepping on a couple of toes m8.

>>10468183
You've never met Hmong businesswomen have you?

>>10468206
>trump
>successful
kek

>>10467674
No, not really. There's a point where eating well (i.e. healthily) becomes more objective than subjective. There is literally no conceivable reality where "5 cheeseburgers from McDonald's" is ever good for you.

>>10467865
>a leftist completely lacking self awareness and projecting wildly
Wow, something new and different. Doublethinkin' ain't easy.

>>10468292
>a right-winger completely lacking self awareness and projecting wildly
Wow, something new and different. Doublethinkin' ain't easy.

See how that works?

>>10468235
You can say a lot of things about Trump, but he is a successful business man. At least if you judge success by accumulation of money, which is sort of the standard test of business success.
Now whether that success is a the result of his own business acumen or not, or if that business success translates at all in to ability to lead a country, those a whole different set of questions.

>>10467674
Why even bother going to the gym if you're not going to eat well?

>>10468671
I think the problem is just bad education on fitness. Most fat people just sign up for the gym whilst keeping their eating habits the same. They think the hour of them barely learning how to workout leads to a guilt free meal.

>>10467674
>am literally on a 1000 calorie a day, low carb diet in order to lose weight
Though to be honest I have more energy and feel lighter on my feet, so it's valid. Fatties gonna be criticising me for eating healthy but then they complain and whine about a single flight of stairs or a few yards of walking. Like okay shut up. You can eat as many burgers and twinkies as you want, but deal with the fucking consequences of it--runny awful pants shitting gut health, being unable to perform daily basic functions, beetus, painful knees and back, etc. I bike commute, I'm too poor to be fat. Aint' got a car to take me doorstep to doorstep and run 500 trips to mcdonalds and walljew for 20 flats of soda. I have to carry groceries home 2 miles by foot. I literally cannot become fat. So, check your fat privilege? It's literally socioeconomically impossible for me to become fat as an independent poorfag non-driver who has to bike up to 25 miles a day (usually just 10).
Also how tf do you afford that much food, oh my god food is so expensive.

>>10467946
Yeah no black people there

>>10468021
It's a little better than some of the shit i've seen "Stop liking what I like" Somehow i'm not special enough to like the things they like.

>>10468001
>4chan
>Conservative

4chan has historically been left or whatevver 4chan itself can be contrarian to.

>>10468643
>yfw you learn he could have invested his "small loan" in an index fund and have higher net worth than he has as a "successful businessman"

>>10467946
And the democrat-voting minorities are the most obese in those states

>>10470166
That's obviously untrue for the same reason that investing $10k into an index fund when you're 20 doesn't guarantee that you'll retire a millionaire. The market returns on average 7% a year (inflation-adjusted), so your investment approximately doubles each decade; in 50 years that's only a 32x increase.

Turning ~10 million into well over 1 billion dollars is obviously way more than 32x.

>>10468144
>It's entirely possible it's intended to mean eating what feels good.

it was posted at a gym.

>>10469872
4chan has been historically, on neither side, literally trolling both, & still doing it

>>10469872
This.>>10469872
I come on here for cooking, and all it is is more /pol/ shit. All of you need to fuck off back to whatever stormfag or Fox comment section hole you faggots crawled out of. It used to be one containment board years ago. Now it is the entire site. Literally every other board is an iteration of the containment board now. Every last one of you should be shot in the streets.

>>10467965
You faggots sure get your panties in a bunch about people having different opinions then cry about it on cooking boards. I used to think the left was full of the whining babies until this last 2 years.

>>10468001
>4chan is a conservative site
Welcome, newfag. Now go back to >>>/r/eddit you don't seem to understand this website at all and probably hopped on the train from The_Donald this time last year.

4chan is contrarian and has always been contrarian. It's political beliefs will be opposite those which are seen as normal just because. In fact, the fact that you faggots apply political labels to the community makes you far more reddit-tier than the "liberals" you claim to be "reddit"

>>10470252
that's what happens when you ban speech you don't like everywhere else. blowbacks a bitch isn't it? if they could speak their mind on more popular platforms they wouldn't be here. i don't blame them at all

deal with it

>>10468001
The scariest part is that more and more of this website is going to agree with this as time goes on and there's no way to stop it. One day you'll no longer be allowed to disagree as is already often the case on some boards.

>>10470282
You talk like we were the ones censoring you on other sites. We were minding our own fucking business and you faggots decided to come shit up our site because you lack the skills to make your own. You're parasites.

>>10470299
>you faggots
i ain't one of them keep your panties on
>they lack the skills to make their own
why it would just get taken down or sued into oblivion

>>10470319
>why it would just get taken down or sued into oblivion
Yet 4chan still exists, proving your statement false. Face up to it, they run rampant here because the nature of this site makes it impossible for the moderation team to corral them to the boards where they would be on topic (How I wish we were all on IPv6 so evading a ban would mean they would need to buy a new phone). Which wouldn't even be necessary in the first place if they just had the decency, maturity, or mental capacity to contain themselves. And before you think to say "free speech zones" or similar, remember that people from /ck/ aren't going to /pol/ and making threads about Waffles Vs. Pancakes, or shitting up the threads there by trying to derail them in to discussions of French cooking techniques. Boards exist to be containment for the topics they are relevant to, which is why people complain about /pol/ leaking out in the first place.

>>10467674
fake caption

everyone in this thread who believed it is a retard

>>10470269
fucking this
I never really noticed the sjws they cry about so much but these desperate goons crop up everywhere for some reason

>>10470398
>which is why people complain about /pol/ leaking out in the first place.
the main issue is that /pol/ runs too hot to actually discuss anything. it's like yelling into an abyss. it needs to be adjusted somehow to accommodate it's traffic because you can't actually discuss anything over there and be heard. so the outflow funnels into slower boards where you will be heard. of course a no one is going to post waffles vs. pancakes on /pol/ because it'll be bumped out in 10 minutes whereas it'll stay up here for 8 hours.

>>10470415
>go into regular thread
>someone posts some shitty bait right at the beginning
>in full caps no less
>....
>25+ authentic replies
>Long multi paragraph responses attacking the bait in full faith and sincerity
>go back to tumblr/gb2 reddit a plenty
>I'm the only person who sees and ignores the bait for what it is
It's bizarre. It's like people completely lack self awareness and critical thinking whenever it suits them.

>>10470441
At any given time there are at least 10 threads up about the same hot-button topics on /pol/ and plenty of discussion gets done in them. /pol/ leaks out and instead of discussing cooking on /ck/ seeks apply some pseudo-political meaning to everything (like the soyboy shit) and then goes from thread to thread derailing it into argumentative drivel. I'm all for shitposting but it's the same song and dance in every fucking thread. This is the most boring and predictable this website has ever been.

>>10470441
>so the outflow funnels into slower boards where you will be heard
That is not a valid reason to shit up other boards by derailing threads with off topic trash. You don't have a right to have your posts seen. That said I would like it if there was a solution found that would allow people that post on /pol/ (or other fast moving boards) to feel like they had a chance to actually have a discussion of ideas.
>of course a no one is going to post waffles vs. pancakes on /pol/ because it'll be bumped out in 10 minutes whereas it'll stay up here for 8 hours.
You seem to have missed the point. To put it bluntly I don't let my dog shit it your yard, so pay me the same courtesy and keep your dog out of my yard. And no, your yard being full of shit already is not a valid reason to go shitting in the yards of others.

>>10470478
>This is the most boring and predictable this website has ever been.
Exactly this.

>>10470472
The caption on the OP photo might have been fake, but it is a realistic depiction of a viewpoint with a large number of followers. I assume that is what people are responding to. Bait can be a catalyst for good discussion.

>I'm the only person who sees and ignores the bait for what it is
I bet you feel super special huh?

>>10470500
How is this good discussion on a cooking board? This is "Food & Cooking" not "Whine about people with political views I don't like".

>>10470478
>This is the most boring and predictable this website has ever been.
Amen.
Do you remember when trolling meant something? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

>>10470505
It's been so long since then. This site used to have a community that somewhat acted in unison. Now it's just filled with these "i troll j00 lololol xD" bait kiddies and "epic memers".

>>10470500
I don't mind this thread much in particular. /ck/ doesn't really have the problem I described. It's much worse on the more popular boards.

>I bet you feel super special huh?
I do. Thanks for the appreciation friendo.

>>10470488
>That is not a valid reason to shit up other boards by derailing threads
Never said it was. I was simply stating the reasoning behind why it happens

>>10470510
I have no data to back it up, but I have a strong feeling the decline coincides with a decrease in the average age of posters.

>>10470514
>Thanks for the appreciation friendo.
No problem, always happy to help.

>be medfag
>constantly have to tell fat patients they need to lose weight and give them a comprehensive list of reasons why
>they'll rather listen to some fat whore on tumblr than me
>obese "fat positive" med student shits on me

>>10470705
every anecdotal situation I've ever seen with a fat person being fat is because the fuckers do not stop eating ever
>eat meal with them
>eat fairly large meal
>damn anon how are you not fat you're lucky
>finish meal, done for the night
>hamplanet polishes off ice cream immediately after eating their "small meal"
>10 minutes later hear potato chip bags rustling
>hour later hear spoon and bowl clanking

>>10470716
i am pretty fat (240) and even i get full, but their stomachs are so expanded that their full is different. Also, they have an addiction to food.

>>10467674
>not eating carbs is a horrible deprivation

I don't understand this meme.

>>10470721
>they have an addiction to food
yeah im aware of that i just cringe at the excuses made by them or others for them. i'm no better or even worse myself being an on and off booze jockey and i do the same when i hear people say i have a disease or it's genetic or basically anything amounting to it's not your fault. of course it is.

>>10468302
Yea you continue to demonstrate your lack of awareness

>>10467674
There is nothing on that whiteboard that the poster should be upset with. It doesn't define what "eating well" means, it just says that it's a form of self respect. Its remarkably tame. All that bullshit theyve written is just projection.

>>10470725
satiety. can't just cut it overnight, the body will continu to act like you are getting "the usual" and you'll feel like your burning and rotting in the inside without it

>>10467674
Nice sign, I want it everywhere.

>>10470838
>All that bullshit theyve written is just projection.
That's because they know damn well that they are a fatass and thus they get triggered.

Fatties might claim to have acceptance of their body image, but deep down inside they know damn well it's unhealthy.

>>10468151
>dirty bulking
Never gonna make it.

>>10467965
>. Conservatives don’t even have feelings except for hate and anger.
Conservative here, can confirm.

>>10467845
Daily reminder that HAES/fat acceptance is a way for liberals to turn their laziness into a social movement and forcibly silence anyone who disagrees.

>b-but there are fat conservatives! Trump is fat!

I know. But only liberals are pathetic enough to make it a social movement and rally in its favor. A liberal would rather attempt to be a """""revolutionary""""" and force society to adapt to their backwards ass world view than develop discipline and work towards a positive goal. Disgusting and pathetic.

>b-b-but I'm a liberal a-and

No. Pic related is what any liberal trying to argue with this thread looks like.

>>10470282
>implying you're not one of them

you people are actually the new bronies except worse because everything that fascists say about jews is fucking true about fascists you're all sneaky little faggots who lie, misinform and weasel constantly.
I wouldn't give a shit if you couldn't help but go into apolitical threads on apolitical boards and fucking derail every single one and then fucking samefag yourselves falseflagging as the most cancerous sjw liberal filth. Even the furfags weren't as bad as that, sometimes, the baitposting is funny but increasingly more and more with you fuckers it's literally unironic reeing about fucking nothing, just stop no-one wants to hear it, fuck off back to whatever hellhole you came from.

>>10471440
This may be because you're American, but liberals and conservatives are both liberal ideologies and most other places in the world consider "liberals" as they're referred to in the US as centre-right to centre-left as opposed to left. If you actually knew what the core tenets of liberalism as an ideology were you'd recognize this.

>>10470716
They also don't know even the most basic shit about food.
>explaining benefits of green leafy vegetables
>one woman says "but I already eat potatoes every day, they have a green part with leaves don't they?

>>10467674
Does this particular phrase hold some sort of inherent meaning I don't understand or why is the text implying "eating well" isn't subjective by the creators of said sign?

Seems like someone read way too hard into something totally non-offensive.

>>10467876
This. The social pressure against big girls is a real thing, and it makes perfect sense that they don't like it, and maybe even want to speak out against it. But it makes sense not to accept it in society. Because the life trajectory for these women is just sad. The fat girl becomes the obese woman, then the morbidly obese woman. By that point she ends up with a long list of things she can't do if she hasn't already become disabled as a result. And food, one of the few pleasures in her life ends up tied to feelings of guilt. And her health just declines as the usual suspects plague her ('beetus, back pain, hypertension, acid reflux, depression, etc). By that point her life is pretty much sitting on the couch eating and watching TV - even getting out of the house is a chore. Then she dies from something stupid, like stubbing her toe, and it going gangrenous or some shit like that.

Yeah, that's great. As a society we ought to celebrate that as a good lifestyle choice.

>>10471427
Same.
Let us celebrate our anger with some racist language and shooting guns.
We can later cuddle.

>>10467691
>modern

It's always been shit. Classical liberalism isn't even liberalism.

>>10467845
False equivalence and no it isn't. Stop being obtuse just because someone stepped on your toes over your stupid politics that no one takes seriously. No one, and I mean NO ONE in the present day dissident right wing of the political spectrum is making concessions to fat fucks, it's an idea that's come from the Tumblr and left wing Twitterite crowd which is comprised almost exclusively of progressives and muh equality faggots. Equality/equity/everyone's a loser/whatever the fuck this pseudo-intellectual political paradigm is supposed to be is a left wing belief, branching off of Karl Marx and other communist philosophers. You're either being intellectually dishonest or you're dumb/entry level as fuck when it comes to politics.

>>10472024
"Eating Well" normally means eating healthy. Not necissarily militant vegan or protein-counting bodybuilder tier stuff, but "healthy" in general.

Fatty McFatFat got triggered at the mere hint of this because he/she knows damn well that being a landwale is unhealthy and is already apprehesive and feeling guilty about it. The sign was enough to trigger a FatRage. After getting triggered Fatty McFatFat probably got depressed and then proceeded to inhale 6 pints of Ice cream and 4 large pizzas to make themselves feel better.

>>10472024
Are you unfamiliar with the mating call of the tumblrina?

>>10472134
>>10472140
Right, just regular old over sensitive internet fat people. Gotcha.

Let me tell you guys about the Fat Sign.

The Fat Sign is easy to make. Get some cardboard or whatever and write "FAT" on it in big letters. Or you can print it out on the computer. Point is to make it clear and easy to read. Cardboard is best so it won't flop around in the wind. Keep the fucker in your car, backpack, or whatever. When someone pisses you off, instead of flipping them the bird you whip out the Fat Sign. Giving someone the finger might irritate them for a few minutes. But the Fat Sign ruins their whole DAY.
Obviously this works best on actual Fatties.

However, a lot of women, 'spergs, and soyboys get triggered by it too since they have some weird mental hangup so that they think they're fat even if they aren't.

Make a Fat Sign today. I highly recommend it.

>trying to eat extremely healthy
>bought sale cans of pumpkin on a whim for dat vitamin A
>trying to figure out how to cook them
>even dropping "healthy" or "paleo" as key words only results in 90% desserts full of fat and sugar, and a few shitty soup recipes
>only way I know is to make a smoothie (no blender and don't want that much fruit anyway) or in oatmeal (no longer eating grain)
>probably just gonna heat and eat plain
I realized the average person's definition of "healthy" is vastly different from my definition. Look up "healthy" recipes and get cookies with slightly less sugar and butter than normal, or meme flours instead of the regular shit and that somehow magically makes it healthy. Why are people so delusional? 95% of "healthy" recipes are what I'd consider total junk food.

>>10471440
>Super likes are accidental

Is it because of your sausage fingers?

>>10472170
>I realized the average person's definition of "healthy" is vastly different from my definition.
The kind of person who looks up "healthy' recipes generally has no desire to eat in a healthy manner. What they're looking for is the same shitty foods they eat anyways, but versions of them that will make them feel less guilty about eating them. This usually means slightly lower fat versions of high fat foods. Nothing healthy about that, really.

>>10472242
So where do I find actual healthy foods? Most traditional recipes I can no longer eat, and other than straight searing meat, sauteed veg, eating plain, etc. Sometimes I want something fancier you know? You're correct, but I'm still mad about it. "Healthy" fucking cake because it uses less butter or whatever, my ass.

>>10467674
Man i hate fat people

>>10468073
>My question is what was a blubbernaut doing at a gym in the first place.
To have evidence when they blog about "going to the gym but STILL not losing weight, must be genetically fat!" later.

>>10472574
The whole notion of foods themselves being healthy is the mistake. The real key is to eat a variety of foods, mostly plants and not to consume too many fucking calories. The problem with first world living is that the kind of foods you're best not eating much of are cheap and widely available. So that's what most folks eat. To try to sidestep that people play various elimination games with their diets, ranging from vegan to keto, both of which can be an effective hedge against the Western diet, but neither are that enjoyable. What I do is just look at what poor people eat in places with good food, which turns out to be mostly beans, vegetables and grains rounded out with a very little fish, dairy and meat here and there and almost no sugar. Works fine for me. But really portion control is a much bigger deal than the specifics of what you eat.

>>10472167
If you don't have visible abs you are fat.

>>10472683
Because they hangout in the juice bar and drink sugar juice and eat muffins.

>>10468779
I bike commute too, and also lift a lot of heavy objects at work, but I'm still fat

>>10472696
>But really portion control is a much bigger deal than the specifics of what you eat.
This.

But sadly people are always looking for the "magic bullet". They want a "superfood" or some special diet that will magically fix all their heal problems. Deep down inside they know to eat less and exercise more, but it's much easier if they can cling to the latest fad diet or blame their obesity/ED/acne/whatever on the latest food bogeyman--in the 70's it was fat. In the 90's it was cholesterol. Then sugar. And now gluten. I wonder what the next cool food fad to blame problems on will be?

>>10473104
>But sadly people are always looking for the "magic bullet". They want a "superfood" or some special diet that will magically fix all their heal problems.
Those people deserve to be fat.

>>10473104
This can be true or false. Portion control is important, but not always the most important thing. If you’re eating lean meat and non-starchy vegetables, portion control means almost nothing.

>>10472167
>the Fat Sign.
fucking brilliant.

>>10472574
>So where do I find actual healthy foods? Most traditional recipes I can no longer eat,

Nonsense. Barring obvious things like rat poison, there is no such thing as a "healthy" or "unleathy" food. What matters is your diet as a whole, not individual foods. There's nothing wrong with eating a big greasy cheeseburger or a huge slice of cake....just as long as that's not all you are eating. As part of a diet with lean meats, lots of greens, and so on that's just fine.

>>10472696
>The real key is to eat a variety of foods, mostly plants and not to consume too many fucking calories
This. End of story.

>>10473151
>If you’re eating lean meat and non-starchy vegetables, portion control means almost nothing.
As long as you stay in ketosis. And that shit is no fun at all.

>>10473169
Okay, try to tell me that mac n cheese is healthy in any quantity. Or cheesecake. Cupcakes. Go ahead.
Obviously and intuitively a salad is simply healthier than any quantity of french fries.

>>10467674
>he

>>10473300
>Okay, try to tell me that mac n cheese is healthy in any quantity. Or cheesecake. Cupcakes. Go ahead.
Why not. Back in the early part of the last century farm folks would have a slice of pie after breakfast, and sometimes after lunch as well. It didn't matter because they burned 3500 calories a day. If you burn 2500 a little mac and cheese, or cheesecake or a cupcake would be a chunk of your daily caloric intake. But if the rest of what you ate that day was pretty austere these things could be part of an overall healthy pattern of eating. Certainly not cornerstones of it though.

>>10473300
Why woudln't it be? Your body needs carbs, fats, and protein. Mac and cheese supplies some of those things. Clearly it would be unhealthy to consume excess amounts of it, but so long as you aren't exceeding a reasonable caloric limit, and you are getting your vitamins and minerals from other parts of your diet then there is no problem at all.

You are still stuck in the mindset of "some foods good" and "other foods bad". That's nonsense. What matters is the total you consume in a given day (or really, a few days), not the makeup of any one specific food.