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10683937 No.10683937 [Reply] [Original]

How bad can the hygiene with street food vendors be? I saw some youtube comments complaining about how a hot dog cook wasn't cleaning the tongs after each use.

>> No.10683959

how do these people not die
https://youtu.be/c7gDBVmgIRA

>> No.10683960

That shit is retarded. You only need to clean them after cross contamination or dropping them. People literally have no idea what food safety rules are making up rules in their head.

>> No.10683969

>>10683960
That's what I was thinking. It's only touching the food, which doesn't touch anything else except the hot fucking grill. I mentioned it to a friend and he seemed to think you could get parasites or something lmao

>> No.10683978

>>10683937
If you're dumb enough to touch street "food" then you deserve every disease known to man. Third world shitholes should be nuked.

>> No.10683984

>>10683978
What about first world countries, though?

>> No.10685024

>>10683937
that picture shows bacon wrapped hot dogs, both cooked and not and they're stacked together.
i wouldn't eat one that's been sitting on top of a 75 degree raw piece of bacon. fuck that shit.

>> No.10685473

Street vendor food is honestly the most disgusting food available, literal trash.

>> No.10685481

>>10685473
I've had street vendor food from Israel, Jordan, Romania, and the U.S.

You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. Please educate me more with your PHD in bullshit.

>> No.10685483

>>10683937
If you're buying hot dogs on the street you lose your right to talk about health and hygiene

>> No.10685484

>>10683937
>How bad can the hygiene with street food vendors be?
desu it's not that big of a deal if you aren't a pussy

>> No.10685485
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>> No.10685493

>>10685485
You can feel his dominance over the eggs.

>> No.10685515

>>10683937
>hygiene
>street food
You're doing it wrong, if you are worried about hygiene then you have no business eating in the street, even the cleanest looking, procedure following, street vendors do some nasty shit.

>> No.10685523

>>10683978
fucking immunelet, I've had my fair share of street food and never gotten sick

>> No.10685527

>>10683937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkqeiKradak
hope you like a little oil in your bread

>> No.10685588

>>10683959
>flip cuisine

>> No.10685597

>>10683978
Grow some balls, you fucking girl. Live your life. Stop being such a frightened little bitch.

>> No.10685943

>>10685588
>the 20 cent meal the poorest of people eat is representative of flip cuisine as a whole

>> No.10685944

>>10683937
I shat and threw up constantly for 48 hours in Vietnam so i guess pretty bad

>> No.10685986

>>10685944
Did you eat salad or fruit? That is a sure way to make you shit water when on a holiday.

>> No.10686012
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>>10683959
jesus christ

>> No.10686864

>>10683959
this is why aliens wont come down and say hey to us. we are such a waste of species on a beautiful planet. look at these cretins going thru trash like rats, piling up trash everywhere like filthy scum cockroaches. everything non-white was a mistake. why have we not killed these people yet.

>> No.10686874

>>10686864
take it easy there champ

>> No.10686882
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>>10683959
jesus fucking Christ this is sickening

>> No.10686890

>>10683959
Human body is pretty fucking tough

>> No.10686903

>>10685944
I got really sick in Cambodia, but that was after eating kebab. I never had a problem with Thai/Cambodian street food.
Moral of the story is, never trust a t*rk.

>> No.10686991

Back in the day, I was stationed in korea and liked eating at pojangmachas (street stands). One night after eating and binging I got diarrhea that became a clear liquid every 30 minutes so probably dysentery. Went to the medfags and they gave me mega antibiotics and something like immodium that knocked it out. Never puked though.

>> No.10687083

>>10685485
How does he wash his eggs

>> No.10687134

>>10685527
Does the guy fucking give newspapers for the customers to clean their hands with? Jesus Christ.

>> No.10687152

>>10685485
how
does
he
get
out
???

>> No.10687163

>>10685527
I wouldn't mind getting honor killed for that hijab qt at 2:50

>> No.10687223

>>10683937
>cleaning the tongs after each use.

There is no reason to do this. Health inspectors and bureaucrats make this shit up to keep busy and justify their own existence, very little of it is based in actual fact.

>> No.10687268

>>10687223
This. How would that even work?. Would you need a wash basin next to your grill?

>> No.10687302

>>10687268
Not that guy, but I've been told that I need to change the sani water or bleach any time a rag or instrument that's come into contact with chicken goes into it.

The ever loving fuck now? You're not cross-contaminating the quaternary fluid. So I'm supposed to kill a rag every time I wipe by tongs? Or never clean my tongs? Or sanitize my knife? My knife is not going through the dish machine you can go to hell.

>> No.10687446

>>10683959

if they cook it properly all the bacteria would be dead right?

so basically they would slowly die of the various chemicals instead, which takes 20+ years i assume

>> No.10687462

>>10687446
Some bacteria and fungi produce really really bad chemicals that can kill you right then and there. Cooking won't get rid of those.

>> No.10687547
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10687547

>>10683960
>>10683969
>>10685515
>tongs touch raw dog
>dip them in bleach
>dip in water
>pick up done dogs
>keep them under heat lamp
>raw dogs are stored cooled

t. sold hot dogs for 8 years.

>> No.10687567

>>10683937
hot dogs are already cooked so thats fine.

>> No.10687575

>>10687462
While that may make for an interesting talking point it's pretty much irrelevant. Those situations are extremely rare.

>> No.10687595

>>10687567
Guess they might be referring to the bacon wrapped around it?

>> No.10687629

>diseased meat eater problems

>> No.10687723

>>10687595
bacon is a ready to eat product dingus

>> No.10687747

>>10687547
bleach? like peroxide?

>> No.10687787

>Worked in NYC for 7 years
>Absolutely love "lamb and rice" lunches from the halal street vendors
>If you haven't seen this, they sell $5 plates of lamb and rice from a dirty cart on the street that's staffed by some Middle Eastern dude who can barely speak English
>I eat this stuff literally 3-4 days a week from different vendors
>Been to about 30-40 over the course of 7 years
>Never got food poisoning once in 7 years

It's fine. Your body is made to handle killing an animal in the forest and cooking its meat over a campfire. You can handle some mild to moderately unsanitary conditions and be totally fine.

>> No.10687795

>>10687787
Halal food is fucking great, I should go eat it more often.

>> No.10687800

>>10683937
depends of the shithole country you live on.
here in chile streetfood is pretty decent

>> No.10687803
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10687803

>>10687787
See pic related.

If you encounter one of these guys, you're about to have the best meal of your life. I keep *extremely* spicy premium hot sauce I got from Amazon in my office. I put some of that on my lamb in rice. I also sprinkle some MSG on top (this actually isn't a joke, moderate amounts of MSG are fine).

GOD DAMN.

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>>10687803
Got $5? Then it's lamb and rice day!

GOD DAMN.

>> No.10687816

>>10687808
I usually asked for chopped up pita bread on top so it's an extra dollar.

>> No.10687818

>>10685481
Israel and US are first world, so street food is ok.
Romania is... Questionable but if you made sure the vendor was white, you may be ok.

Try eating Chinese street food. And then say what happens

>> No.10687830

>>10687800
I'm gonna be blunt and say that I would be wary of Chilean of street food, like I would Brazilian or Mexican (in non-tourist areas).

Teach me, friend. Chile is pretty fucking based. But I still have prejudice when it comes down to things like hygiene

>> No.10687836

>>10686864
Jews.

>> No.10687840

>>10687803
Fuck off with your bullshit.

>> No.10687851

>>10687816
I'm the guy who goes to these places 3-4 times a week.

Let me give you some pro advice. First, find a favorite truck. Some are much better than others, the operators actually make their own "white sauce" most of the time and have some discretion on the choice and quantity of veggies.

Then tip your operator $1 each time you order. No need to converse or anything. After a few days he'll recognize you and silently double your meat free of charge. This works EVERYWHERE. Just be chill and mildly friendly, tip $1, go to the same truck at least once every couple weeks, and BAM you're getting tons of meat with your order.

>> No.10687862

>>10687840
What's bullshit? Their lamb and rice is seriously absolutely top notch.

If you disagree, you got a shitty cart. It happens. The good ones are just mind blowing with some top shelf hot sauce and some MSG sprinkled on top.

I'm aware this sounds strange, but that shit is the best thing I've ever eaten.

>> No.10687872

>>10687851
Thanks anon, I'll try this if I ever get the chance.

>> No.10687888

>>10683937
Okay, let's look at this this way. Hotdog vendors cannot leave their post. If they do, their pepperoni carts can be stolen, so they have to be at their cooler for hours ... without shitting, or urinating?

The closest thing these degenerate chefs have to defecate into are their pop soda coolers. Let that sink in for a second.

>> No.10687898

>>10687888
They might defecate into the soda pop coolers. They might go into the open sewer grate.
Either way, they're handling your food with shitty hands.

>> No.10688011

>>10687888
>>10687898
This is ridiculous. In NYC, most of the mid-level carts can be barricaded. See the pictures earlier in this thread.

When the operator needs a break, he barricades the cart temporarily and goes into a nearby store to use their bathroom. I've seen it happen plenty of times and have asked them how it works.

>> No.10688310

>>10687888
>>10687898
I refuse to believe people this stupid actually exist

>> No.10688413

>>10688310
I refuse to believe you fell for the bait.

>> No.10688478

>>10687787
That's because, no matter how filthy the Mud is, his ingredients are probably coming from a local store, and the bacteria all around him, you, and the food is local to NYC. Your body can handle this shit because it's had time to adapt to it. What really gets people is when they go to a foreign country and eat the filthy street food, because the bacteria there are slightly different and your body doesn't know what to do and needs time to adapt.

>> No.10688500

>>10687795
>>10687787
>>10687803
Though honestly I could never morally bring myself to eating Halal food in a western country regardless of whether it'd make me sick or not.

>> No.10688512

>>10687462
They're not as rare in tropical countries though.

>> No.10688519

>>10688512
Meant for
>>10687575

>> No.10690010

>>10688478
Are you sure about that?

>> No.10690036

>>10687888
As an adult I can go 8 hours without shitting or pissing myself.

>> No.10690049

>>10683978
>he gets sick from eating street food

lmao fucking subhuman trash. Kys yourself so that you can't pollute the gene pool even further

>> No.10690058

>>10683959
someone please kill and eat that chicken

>> No.10690076

>>10683937
I dunno, I ate a ton of street food in Thailand and I guess the mantra is that those vendors would go out of business if their food made people sick, also that since they dont have fridges or freezers with them obviously, they have to buy veggies and meat daily in the morning instead of something sitting in a restaurant cooler expiring from lack of customers.
I guess this doesn't apply to North America since the restaurants have decent standards to operate but I've gotten food poisoning like 5 times in my life. Just be smart with what you choose. I fucking love street food.

>> No.10690083

>>10687787
makes me wonder wat the fuck the guy who gave me salmonella was doing

guessing he used something that touched raw meat

>> No.10690389

>>10687547

mmm love bleach dogs

>> No.10690396

The times I've gotten bad food poisoning (you've probably had food poisoning without knowing it) was from 2 chain burger places which generally have very strict quality control when it comes to food safety and a nice oyster bar which had a batch of norovirus contaminated oysters, literally nothing anyone could have done about it. I've never gotten sick any of the times I've had questionable looking street food or hole in the wall taquerias.

>> No.10690404

>>10683937
>oh no germs and bacteria in my mouth

yea the whole point of the digestive system is to take in foreign material and turn it into usable energy. It's got safeguards in place to neutralize threats. Unless ya boi shits in his hand on a bad day and rinses it off with blood-contaminated piss, non-pussies can eat it just fine.

>> No.10690445

>>10687547
>raw dog

huh?

>> No.10690501

>>10690010
Yes. Foreign bacteria are the main cause of vacation shits.

>> No.10690684

>>10690501

oh yeah all those people who get the shits traveling to Nordic and European countries and the USA. no wait that's only dirty brown people countries like India, Mexico, and Brazil

>> No.10690758

>>10690684
>ecoli, norovirus and salmonella outbreaks in the US daily
>w-we was kangs and shite!

>> No.10690774

>>10685485
How does he get out without breaking all the eggs?

>> No.10690783

>>10687163
Bro she is like 12

>> No.10690826

>>10683937
>>10685944
>>10686903
I have witnessed many street food vendors in indonesia handing the customers metal cutlery and just wipe it clean with a towel after use. Only to put it back to the clean cutlery. enjoy.

>> No.10690842

>>10688500
Moral issues with halal food? Wtf are you talking about, brainlet?

>> No.10690850

>>10683959
>BBC News
Aand now i think this is completely blown out of proportions or simply fake just to make good goys feel bad.

>> No.10690867

>>10683959
>>10683978
>>10685473
>>10685944
>>10686991
if you live in a first world country, you are likely TOO clean right now, you wash your hands too much and you weaken your immune system by doing so. I'm not telling you to go to china and eat gutter oil, but you guys are actually such insufferable fags

>> No.10690879
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10690879

>Tasty street food

>Hygiene

Choose exactly one. Maybe one.

>> No.10690884
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I ate a raw chicken breast on a 50$ bet once, didn't get sick at all besides my reaction to the gross raw chicken, once it was actually in my stomach I was fine. I think a lot of people are just oversensitive about shit. You can get away with a lot more than you think.

Pic unrelated

>> No.10690919

>>10690842
obviously he's a bigot.

>> No.10690926

>>10690919
Oh, yeah.

There's nothing objectionable at all about hanging an animal upside down and slitting it's throat and leaving it to hang for 12 hours to drain out completely.

He must be islamaphobic!

>> No.10690931

>>10690884
I ate raw chicken liver once. I was very sick for around 3 days.

Yes I am retarded.

>> No.10690935

>>10690926
how is this objectionable? You don't bleed out an animal when you kill it? You should...

>> No.10690941

>>10690931
IDK what to tell ya bud? Maybe because it was the liver? That's pretty weird.

>> No.10691004

I grew up getting sick all the time. Like twice a years it was always 'a bug going around' Pretty sure it was my mums poor hygiene in the kitchen.
Only time I've been sick since leaving home 20+ years ago was either from copious amounts of alcohol or this one time after eating at a Thai restaurant.

>> No.10691044

>>10690926
>literal pussfag , proud of the fact he tortures immigrant children, but doesn't even know how to dress and butcher a large animal.
Your 56% ancestors would be laughing at you.

>> No.10691069

>>10691044
Did you mean this?
>>10690935
I'll admit the only animal I've dressed was a pig. It was dead before we bled it, but it was hanging from a tree when we bled it, I guess I still don't see the objection... how long is it going to take for an animal to die hanging upside down with it's throat cut? I assume it's not very long.

>> No.10691128

>>10690684
>Led in tapwater poisons thousands
We're just as good as those dirty socialist EU countries guys, I promise!

>> No.10691211

>>10690884
Yes if you eat raw chicken you will likely be fine, but there is also a not insignificant risk that you will become violently ill and require a trip to the hospital. That's how statistics work.

>> No.10691255

>>10690884
>"I crossed a busy highway blindfolded once and didn't get run over" post
Really anon?

>> No.10691307

>>10687547
Hot dogs arent sold "raw."

t. human with half a brain

>> No.10691317

>>10691255
Good point. I still stand by my opinion tho that the human body is mostly germ resistant and you have to really do something stupid to make yourself sick.

>> No.10691346

>>10690926
I’ve stood 2 feet away while a goat was slaughtered this way. Once the throat is cut they die extremely fast. Even the involuntary twitching after they lose consciousness only lasts a minute or two. Also it bled out 30 minutes max and we were eating it 2 hours later

>> No.10691372

>>10687803
>If you encounter one of these guys, you're about to have the best meal of your life.
It's a coinflip you retard. I can list to you every cart in the financial district that is utter shit and cut corners by giving you a plate of oil or bland old meat. They aren't all good fuck off. Some do try harder than others though.

>> No.10691374

>>10685588
water sandwich must be the apex of the western cuisine

>>10686864
u ok /pol/?

>> No.10691378

>>10687851
I don't want double meat these meals are bad enough as is and have 0 shelf life to eat tomorrow

>> No.10692229

>>10691255
You could literally eat raw chicken daily for a year and not get ill. Its like less than a 1% chance. That being said a gamble is a gamble.

>> No.10692257

>>10686874
"taking it easy" is what got us here in the first place

>> No.10692278

>>10683959
depressing

>> No.10692298

>>10692257
>got us here
you mean not having a world war every 25 years? Yeah, boy I sure do hate peace and prosperity if it means we have to be tolerant of different looking people

>> No.10692308

>>10692298
the only reason there hasn't been another one is because of nukes
now we just have little wars all over the world constantly instead of having one big one

really nothing changed, except you got tricked into thinking you were living in an age of """peace""" and """prosperity"""

>> No.10692316

>>10690758
?

>> No.10692343

>>10692308
So if nothing has changed then what are you complaining about with this whole “got us here”

>> No.10692353

>>10692343
got us here as in, into this false sense of security that everything will be ok if we pat ourselves on the back for being so tolerant and progressive and diverse

>> No.10692371

>>10686864
Yep, it has to do with what the poor do to stay alive and not about the other problems that cause them to remain in that state...

>> No.10692373

>>10683959
They're like animals with clothes and cookware...

>> No.10692380

>>10683937
Restaurants are worse. At least street vendors are transparent about their shit quality and don't hide it behind decor.

>> No.10692689
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10692689

I'll just leave this here
https://youtu.be/zrv78nG9R04

>> No.10692829

>>10690758
>implying nobody gets sick in your country
btw there's more than 300 million people in the US

>> No.10692838

>>10691128

the led in tapwater is from socialist policies and mismanagement of the copious amounts of money scammed by those policies

>> No.10692852

>>10687223
Touching raw meat
Touching cooked meat.
Congratulations, you just invalidated cooking it fucktard.

>> No.10692862

>>10687808
That does look good.
>cooked lamb
>pale meat
What?

>> No.10692865

>>10690404
This guy is preeeeeeety dumb.
Enjoy your norovirus.

>> No.10692873

>>10690826
Indians at a cafe I used to work at (in a western country) used to do that too. Or just run them under cold water for two seconds.

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>>10686864

>> No.10694709

>>10691374
>something people ate a century ago, and still managed to make out of actual food
>compared to eating out of the fucking garbage like a rat to this day
Great comparison.

>> No.10694747

>>10687134
I once say a vid of a fat chick wiping big mac sauce off her face with the bag her order came in, we're basically animals.

>> No.10694778

>>10690010
100%

It's why you never get Ice in your drink unkess you're in a 1st world country. 3rd world just use frozen tap water, same as we do, but they don't put flouride in their water and you will get the shits.

Even UK to Spain can cause problems.

>> No.10694996

>>10694778
Even in 1st world countries this rule holds. Put your health in the hands of underpaid, overworked, undervalued, resentful service people, fuck that. I'm eating at home.

>> No.10695128

>>10694778
There have been numerous tests that indicate the cubed ice even at upscale bars and restauraunts in the US are loaded with food poisoning inducing bacteria. One study found 60% of fast food ice contained more bacteria than their toilet water, ffs. When will ameristan move up to the 1st world?

https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/eats/restaurant-ice-dirty-secret-article-1.3632922%3foutputType=amp

https://amp.businessinsider.com/ice-is-dirtier-than-toilet-water-2012-10

>> No.10695225

>>10692689
what the FUCK

>> No.10696654

>>10685485
What does the pajeet closest to the cam eat? He's hogging whatever it is down like it's payday

>> No.10696697

>>10692862
The file name says it's chicken you fucking mong, learn to read?

>> No.10696772

>>10683959
They regularly do.

>> No.10696797

>>10692689
well... at least they boil it

>> No.10698301

>>10687163
Why don't you marry her and save her from eating trash burgers?

>> No.10698318

>>10683937
Some guy on /v/ earlier said he ate bad street food that made him hurl so hard it ripped up some lining in his stomach/heart area and now he can't do very physical activities without being in pain

>> No.10698399

>>10698318
Yeah that’s the story he told his parents so they would let him keep sitting in front of his PC all day playing the pokemans

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10698407

>>10698318
>>10698399
There's a PC version of pokemans? Man I'm out of touch. I've been playing the remake of Doom and Virtual Pinball.

Do health inspectors actually inspect street vendors? I mean, inspectors are usually scheduled, and when they're not they know where to find people. Finding a cart or a food truck seems kinda hard.

>> No.10698411

>>10686864
Perhaps the planet would be more beautiful if we weren't so wasteful and dumped everything in landfills.

>> No.10699495

>>10690867
get the fuck out with that baseless pseudoscience bullshit.Statistically the reason you are alive is because your mother's doctor washed their hands when she gave birth to you. The reason we don't have huge plague outbreaks(like in third world countries) ls because our hygiene is far superior you fucking retard.

>> No.10699512

>>10686864
give us the cringe edgeboy!!

>> No.10699662

>>10690926
>Europeans have stunned animals before slaughter for centuries, effectively pre-killing them
>B-b-but the animals thrashing screams please Allah!
>European butcher shops return to being the screaming abbatoirs of old
>Vegetarians and vegans start circulating all this but without the "Halal" tag
>Meat eventually gets banned in 2045
>Halal and Kosher slaughter still allowed because they don't want to be racist
>Gotta show your Imam/Rabbi signed permit if you want to get a roast beef sandwhich.

>> No.10699705

>>10699495
>Statistically the reason you are alive is because your mother's doctor washed their hands when she gave birth to you.

I realize the simple concept behind this statement, but can you tell me more? I'm legit curious now.

>> No.10699728

>>10686864
I mean, what else are they supposed to eat man? Dirt?

>> No.10699750

>>10687547
Buys bleach instead of 2nd pair of tongs.
What a fucking retard.

>> No.10699804

>>10685024
Bacon is cured dipsht...

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10699824

>>10683959

>STAGE 3 : EATING

>> No.10699947

I've eaten at a few street vendors in Pyongyang north korea on vacation in 2014 that were pretty tasty

>> No.10699958

>>10692298
We're living off of, and quickly burning through, the fat of hundreds of years of violence and brutality to get us where we are. I wonder what will happen when this era of unprecedented and unsustainable prosperity. Surely we won't revert back to the brutal and violent nature we've been papering over with money

>> No.10699990

>>10699947
Was that while you were being "protected" by the NK? What did you get in Pyongyang some dead rat meat which is better than their people get.

You dumb asshole.

>> No.10699996

>>10699958
Fuck off and join a cult where they all kill themselves.

>> No.10700004

>>10699958
Have you not considered the possiblity that if you killed yourself you'd help to save the planet?

>> No.10700008

>>10699996
Don't worry the brown people will lop your head off when their bellies are empty

>> No.10700024

>>10700004
Make the bad thought go away! No think bad thought! Where is my soy IV?!

>> No.10700042

>>10683959
I normally have a really strong stomach for most shit, but this is making me want to barf.

>> No.10700106

>>10699990
Yes it was a guided tour
Why are you so mad? No it wasn't rat meat and there were actually lineups of LOCALS waiting at the street vendors so clearly they can afford it

Maybe open your eyes instead of listening to your demonized propaganda

>> No.10700157

>>10690867
I agree. I mean, I still wouldn't eat that literal garbage, but only due to the psychological factor.
I never wash my hands albeit before I cook and I rarely get sick. All you have to do is look at their surroundings (literally garbage everywhere) and
you'll realize that they're still alive despite that fact.