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I'm trying to go vegan. Is soy actually a good alternative to meat in terms of taste and protein density? I've eaten soyburgers before and they really aren't that bad.

General veganism and soy thread?

>> No.10750338

Tempeh, miso, tamari, and shoyu are supposed to be the best if youre worried about phytoestrogens. Isolated soy protein and the sort are unbalanced proteins with weird spikes in certain amino acids that I dont know off the top of my head. Tofu is alright, but edamame is a meme that will cause more problems nutritionwise in the long run.

>> No.10750994

>>10749023

No.

For fucksakes, if you want to eat veggie foods, learn to fucking make veggies instead of faking something you ideologically oppose.

>> No.10751010
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10751010

>>10749023
dont be retarded
be vegetarian if you don't want to eat animals

>> No.10751028

>>10749023
just have a cheat day every now and then. I'm vegan too, but I have a cheat day on Fridays!

>> No.10751059

>>10751028
why arent you vegetarian?

>> No.10753100

>>10749023
Soy is basically edible poison

>> No.10753190

>>10749023
If you have money there are a lot of really good meat alternatives. Soyrizo sausage is great. Also learn to like mushrooms

>> No.10753193

>>10753100
>this is your brain on /pol/

>> No.10753200

>>10751010
what is this yeast-murdering bullshit? fucking monster

>> No.10754029

>>10749023
Just use Seitan. You can make your own for cheap if you buy Vital Wheat Gluten in bulk and add water or veggie broth. You're welcome.

>> No.10754142

>>10753193
>this is your 2 whole neurons on soy

>> No.10754162

Veganism is more of an ethics thing than a health thing. There is a definite way to be healthy without being vegan. Of that purpose is health, look for alternatives. It will be more cost effective in the long run.

>> No.10754264

>>10749023
>taste
No
>protein density
Objective no

>> No.10754372

>>10749023

For health reasons, I went vegetarian for a couple of years and then gradually reintroduced meat into my diet. The issue I was having never returned.

Forget about eating something "like meat". Learn to cook vegetarian dishes. It doesn't have be "like meat" for it to be good. And if you want something "like meat", you probably aren't going to be real happy anyway.

Veggieburgers suck.

If you want a sandwich, try making a spread instead.

When I was a vegetarian, the thing I missed most was mustard simply because everything I was used to putting mustard on was meat based. What I ended up doing was making a bean sandwich.

I would cook the beans overnight in a crockpot along with a whole onion and some spices. The next day, I would take some of the beans and put in a bowl where I would smush them up with a fork to keep them from rolling off of a bun.

Then I'd spread the smushed beans thickly on a whole wheat bun, and top with mustard, pickles, onion slices, and alfalfa sprouts. Those were really great sandwiches. When I make them today, I now add jalapeno slices as well.

There are lots of ways to use the beans.

Another thing that is really good is vegetable tempuras. Learn to make a tempura batter and coat your favorite vegetables and deep fry. You can do this with a wide variety of vegetables including onions, sliced yellow squash, okra, broccoli, and carrots. I used to go to the grocery store (this was in the Houston area) and would buy various sauces to use as dipping sauces. My favorite was one made with apricots.

It's amazing how filling and flavorful some tempura vegetables and rice can be.

For a quick meal, try beans, corn on the cob, and rice.

>> No.10754392

>>10754372 (continued)

So what's your reason for being vegan? To be trendy or some shitty reason like that?

I can see avoiding meats for health reasons or maybe to lose weight. Instead of setting out to be a vegan (which is generally silly) why not just become a more dedicated omnivore with a diet that is mostly grains and vegetables. Eat what you want to eat, not what you feel you must eat because of some crazy notions of veganism/vegetarianism.

Even when I was a vegetarian for two years, I wasn't a fanatic about it. There were times when the only real choices involved meat so I ate a little meat. I was just trying to be healthy, not try to be what some other jerk thought I should be.

>> No.10754448

>>10754372 (continued yet again)

Other things:

Bean burritos. I usually just put in beans and onions (onions are very healthy), but you can put in a number of other things as well.

Chalupas. I used to go to a Mexican restaurant regularly and my favorite meal was the chalupa plate. Rice, beans, and two bean chalupas. Don't worry about whether they were cooked in lard -- if you are just doing it to show off then you deserve to be stuck with food of lower quality.

For desert, my hands down favorite desert is a tangy lime sherbet with sliced strawberries on top. It's quite good made with Kemp's sherbet. Although I prefer Blue Bell ice cream (and generally detest Kemp's ice cream), the Kemp's lime sherbet goes much better with the strawberry slices. If you use a milder lime sherbet like Blue Bell's lime sherbet, forget about the strawberries.

Of course, spaghetti with a non-meat sauce can be very good.

And don't forget Indian food. There are many good vegetarian Indian foods. One of my favorites was a fried patty made with various vegetables that I used to get at a strictly vegetarian Indian restaurant. I don't know what all was in it, but I think that much of it was something like mashed potatoes and chickpeas.

And look at the dosas. They had something called a rava masala dosa which was a medium spicy potato mixture inside a floppy "pancake" made from something like cream of wheat.

>> No.10754494

>>10750994
Standard vegetable preparations lack chewy textures. Stuff like Seitan and TVP fixes that.

>> No.10755260

>>10751028
Friday's has shitty impossible burgers. You're a faggot for presenting this.

>> No.10756847

>>10754448
>>10754392
>>10754372
REDDIT

SPACING