/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>10759670
Best part is when you offer to sharpen them and they get angry.

>have 'friend' visit my house
>he is completely dull

>>10759670
>visit aunts house
>always expected to cook for family gatherings
>knives are dull and pans are scratched even though they barely cook

>visit friend's house
>absolutely no knives
>only has a cleaver

>>10759670
>visit friend's house
>hey anon, wanna play the NEW XBOX?!
>ok!
>I have NBA 2K14, Call of Duty and Godfather...oh wait, that's the movie. which one do YOU want to play?

>>10759670
>visit girlfriend's house
>she only owns paring knives
>"big knives are scary, Anon"

>>10760693
>always expected to cook for family gatherings
Never let on that you're good at something unless you want to be doing it all the time in perpetuity. Never EVER tell old people you're good with computers

>>10760716
Let's be real nobody needs a knife longer than 2 inches, or "military style assault knives" as I call them.

>>10759670
>visit my own house
>kitchen knives are completely dull

WTF is wrong with people, why cant anybody sharpen their knives anymore?

>>10762375
It's a symptom of a broader social ill. No one knows how to take care of themselves or their belongings at all. People don't sharpen their knives, but do they mend their clothes or throw them out when a hole appears?

>>10762375
I wouldn't trust the average person today with a sharp knife. They'd end up missing half their fingers within a year.

>>10760776
>>10762375
>>10762453
oi m8

>>10762390
>washing clothes so frequently you end up with holes
>wearing clothes so frequently you need to wash them
>leaving the house so frequently you need to wear clothes
yeesh

>I find trivial ways to act superior to others because I'm a vile normalfag

>>10759670
>visit friend's house
>"I don't know you, get out"

ugh when a knife is dull I get such negative asmr, I have autism and OCD so I need that satisfying feel when I slice - so I only use knifes just after I sharpen them

it's not like I am a chef, or couldn't make the exact same meal with a dull knife, it's just that after buying my 1000$ japanese, single bevel damascus (folded, hard carbon steel) the simple act of cutting has to justify the price. It just makes me feel special, like I'm competent, in the know and smart. Using this simple hunk of iron makes me feel like a god.

>>10759670
>person who thinks i'm their friend is obviously checking the sharpness of my kitchen knives
>never invite them over again and abandon them socially

>>10763683
>using single bevel to cut things

Single bevel knives are for slicing and shaving.

>>10759670
>Visit own kitchen
>Knives unused because too much takeout

>>10763683
>in the know
Ya except the method for making Damascus steel was lost a long ass time ago, there is no such thing as modern Damascus steel. Look it up. Fsggot.

>>10763683
>negative asmr

>>10764124
jesus wtf

>>10759670
>red normie media
unironically kys

>>10762481
Holy shit I hope they all got fired.

>>10760692
so you make friends with shitty people and still invite them over to your house? Sounds like you have no one to blame but yourself for that, idiot.

>>10759670
your friend probably only owns one of those shitty sharpening grinder things and has never used it

>buy new knives for kitchen before my weekend
>come back from my days off
>they're already fucked
I saw a fucker toss one into the utensil bucket. It's like, no matter how many times I tell these stupid shits, they don't take care of shit. Then they turn around and complain at me about the knives being dull.

>>10764124
>there is no such thing as modern Damascus steel

you can't be this autistic

>>10765478
Why? What do those hand signs mean?

>>10765993
You can google "isis finger"

>>10765993
It's an Islamic gesture related to 'no god but allah', popularized to some degree by ISIS as a kind of in-group salute

>>10765602
Very few people take care of shit that is not their own and that they didnt pay for ... and sometimes not even of that. I regularly sharpen my mothers knives and more often as not I see her the same day, cutting cake on glass platters or a stick of butter on the granite countertop with the newly sharpened knife. I take a look at the edge and it is totally fucked. Drives me bonkers.

Tip: get a belt sander/wheel grinder combo device, with a fluffy cloth wheel with buffing compound instead of the grinding wheel. I can get a knife phone book paper cutting sharp on one of those in literally 20 seconds. If you know what you're doing the belt sander wont fuck up the tempering either. Just be very quick, use super light pressure and use a rough grit (80) to prevent overheating.

>>10759670
>visit friend's house
>Paring knife, orange knife, apple knife, passion fruit knife, mango knife, pineapple knife

>>10760806
The pain of not knowing how to sharpen a Wuesthof that could shave my forearm hair wehn new is unbearable.

>>10759670
>go to friend's house
>they have 14 8" chefs knives in a drawer

>>10767252
>they have 14 8" chefs knives in a drawer
WTF, 14? OK I have more then 63 chef's knives myself but I am a collector and I have them on display in my room, most of them still unused. But having them in a drawer sounds like they are acctually usinng them for cooking. What do they need 14 for?

>>10767215
Get a decent stone and a cheap shit knife to practice on, watch some youtube videos on sharpenning (Bob Kramer, Korin Knives, Japanese Knife Imports, Burrfection) and get good. Shavin sharpness wll be a bit difficult to achieve without a loaded strop, but it is neither needed nor useful in a real kitchen anyway.

>>10767206
Not sure if you're joking but I have actually fucking seen this.
She was a well educated woman and I'm pretty sure she did actually cook for herself. Fucking hell, though. Plastic knives with pictures of fruit on them all over the goddamn kitchen.

>>10767380
I'm partially joking, I only have like 4 knives in my drawer, steak knife, one big knife for mincing, deboning, cleaver for when I'm butchering at family gatherings, and one small knife that does all the fruit stuff

I go shopping for auxiliaries and I see some sort of paring knife that sells for $30.00 when all you need is only need 1 knife

>>10767415
I also do all of my cooking in 1 pan or vessel, must be an Asian thing or something

>invite friend over
>he rummages through my cupboard

>>10765993
it's like sieg heil for islamists

>>10767361
They bought in bulk, but idk why he opened all of them and kept them together in a single drawer

>>10764124
why

>GF won't cook dinner at my house anymore because my main knife is my spare K-Bar
It's sharp as hell but it doesn't have the weight of a real chef's knife. I've gotten so accustomed to it that I don't see the reason to buy one. One time I was cooking something and couldn't find my parking knife so I used one of those wallet knives I sharpened pretty good.
>You really are hopeless
But dinner was good and I got her into shooting. She actually bought herself a .22 Target Pistol has gotten good. She's never fired bigger than a .38 but she's only 5 foot maybe.
She can also cook.

>>10765993
It means 'upvoted'.

>>10759670
My grocery store will give you a special bag to put knives in and bring them in to be sharpened by the butchers for free.
>tfw all knives are dangerously sharp

>>10769184
>to be sharpened by the butchers for free
I bet those butchers are overjoyed at having to to that shit, probably without extra pay. And how do they sharpen them anyways, any butcher I have ever seen just slams his knife on his steel and rapes the shit out of the edge.

>>10770078
Why would they pay an hourly worker extra to do his job? I go to a very nice grocery store that has a huge meat department. I would also never go there with knives to be sharpened without buying shit. The grocery store I go to prides itself on service and quality. There about 6 or so in my town and it's the only one that bags your groceries and asks if want them help you out to your car with your shit. Granted they don't ask me often because I'm a young guy that obviously needs no help, but anytime ive ever been behind an old person they always ask. Go to a better store you poor regard.

>>10770078
They probably just have the teenage temp have at it with a whetstone for eight hours a day. Or probably just an electric sharpener lmao

>>10770296
how the fuck did you go from sharpening knives to bagging groceries, and why?

>>10770372
Because they pride themselves on service and quality? A spotless store with friendly employees that go the extra mile for the customer. Are you stupid?

>>10760806
That's nearly every knife in my house, but, to be fair, I have one knife in my kitchen whereas my roommate has dozens. He also has one of those shitty knife boxes. It has a cleaver which I swear is less than a pound. I tried using them once to cut onions and peppers. Never again.

The thing is I'm a chef, and my only kitchen knife at home is a six-inch deba that's the wrong hand for me that I got for free from another chef who wanted an upgrade. The thing keeps a blade like only a cheap ass knife you find at an Asian market can. It's heavy as shit, and it rusts at rusts at the sight of moisture. Still, debas are precious for most prep work, and I'll probably have it 10 or 20 years from now. I'll finally be adding a second knife as I retire my chef's knife for a new one once those Black Friday deals drop.

>>10770395
What shitty knife box? You mean a block? How do you store yours?

>>10770401
In a saya.

>>10770391
Not so stupid that I need to have my knives sharpened, or more likely fucked up, by some other guy, no.

>>10770508
Stupid enough not to understand why someone bring up other free services to point out the quality of a store though.
>having your knives sharpened by a professional for free is stupid
You're funny sweetie. Stay mad at my perfectly sharp knives and have fun shopping at Aldi's

>>10764124
>posted two days ago

>>10759670
>go to friend's house as a teen to cook
>bring a can of tomato paste
>his mom opens the can with a dull kitchen knife

>>10759670
>invite friends or relatives to your home for dinner
>after finishing you find someone in your kitchen who is washing you cast iron skillet with dish detergent and a steel scourer

>tfw you have no friends to visit

>>10770729
Serves you right for not washing everything immediately. They waited while you were cooking, they can wait a little longer while you clean.

>>10767361
>I am a collector and I have them on display in my room
This isn't your every day autism.
This is Ultra Luxury Deluxe, Artisan, Small-Batch Autism.

>>10770742
>on display in my room
>not even out on display with nice lighting and glass cases to keep the dust off
I bet you can't even cook, pathetic.

>>10770544
>why someone bring up other free services to point out the quality of a store though.
Are you really retarded enough to think those services are "free"? Their cost is just rolled into the price of the other stuff you buy there.
And I have been collecting and sharpening my own knives for 30 years, I am pretty sure my knives are sharper than your butcher'steel-raped edges.

>>10770423
Why has nobody demolished this?

>>10770894
Nice not addressing why I called you stupid and moving on to something new. The store I go to will match the price of anything they carry to other stores. Except meat and deli. The only other store that has a proper deli and meat section is actually not too bad but not as good as the one I go to. Its also bullshit bagging your own groceries and dealing with an obviously inferior store. Not as clean, always short staffed, standing in line forever... I don't mind an extra dollar for a steak if it's better. Plus the store I go to carries a much larger selection of everything. They have a fantastic salad/wing bar at lunch that has some of the best chicken wings you can get anywhere. Oh and did I mention everything is absolutely spotless and all the employees are friendly and will stop whatever they're doing to show where something is or tell you about something new. It's a union grocery store and everyone gets paid a living wage. Oh amd their produce is as cheap as anywhere else but better and fresher and presented in a much better way. They also have a flower shop and a chocolate shop where I buy my mom and gf shit from time to time. Oh and they have a chest of bottled ice water when you walk in that's free as well. When Wal-Mart started selling groceries they would sell them at a loss trying to drive the other grocery stores out of business and they only got the dregs from the town to go there. The other stores suffered but not the one I go too. I think the main reason they're able to achieve this is that it's very far from a bus stop so blacks, white trash, and huge families of mexicans all talking gibberish don't go. Oh and the butchers sharpen your knives.
>I've been collecting and sharpening knives for 30 years and my knives are sharper than your knives
Jesus Christ that the best laugh I've had all night here

>>10767516
>be such kind of friend
>thoroughly enjoy rummaging
>always get dirty looks
If only you knew what joy you're taking away from us.

>>10771031
>A 307 word 1609 character eulogy extolling the virtues of your favourite grocery shop on an Alsatian platypus forum to a dude two continents and an ocean away from you
Dude you might need to reevaluate your life ...

Do you have a super close up of those edges on your knives? I'd be interested in seeing what they look like.

>>10759670
>reddit leddit media

>>10760702
Is your friend Chinese?

>>10771209
Is 307 words a lot for you to read. I didn't want to hurt your head or anything.
>super close up photo of the edges
Absolutely not. Let's see that 30 year knife collection. Post one photo of each and why it's special to you.

>>10771589
It's a lot when it's completely without formatting.
I'll sit through something like that if it's Joyce, but you're not Joyce, are you?
Happy belated Bloomsday, just in case.

>>10768035
>.22 Target Pistol
Ruger?

>>10771644
>formatting
you have to go back

>>10771762
don't you mean
>formatting you have to go back

>>10771774
no

>>10771794
So you're not against formatting when you're the one using it.

>>10771886
Do you mean greentext?

>>10759670
>visit Jay's house
>he doesn't have any condoms

>>10762390
This. 'ending is better than mending'

>>10770391
He is that stupid.
He's also trolling the fuck out of you, so stop arguing with him.

>>10764124
>this is your brain on plastic water bottles and feminism

>>10773754
It's a 2 troll troll off. Although my store will sharpen your knives, I've never done it. His trolling skills are obvious and retarded.

>>10760715
Boring as normies trying to entertain guests

>>10759670
that's right susan!

>>10765993
it just means ALLAH
christians do a variation of it all the time too, lots of fighters and athletes

>visit friends house
>steal his little sister panties

>>10764124
(you)

>>10759670
It's actually a lot safer though to have dull knifes unless you are a professional so many people around here must enjoy hospital bills and hurting themselves trust retards on 4chan to get literally everything backwards there's a reason why knives don't stay sharp theyre designed that way because of safety i don't know why you think that you know best more than the knife makers but you won't be so smug when you cut off a finger fucking retard cunt

>>10776265
>there's a reason why knives don't stay sharp theyre designed that way because of safety
WTF

>>10765482
Just because a someone's dull doesn't make them a shitty person you autist

>>10771589
>Let's see that 30 year knife collection. Post one photo of each and why it's special to you.
I have posted my kitchen knife collection on here several times already, and that was just the kitchen knives, not my other ones, mostly field and combat knives. I have also explained my criteria for collecting them, I dont need a story for each one.

You probably have good reason for not wanting to show your knives. I bet they already have a huge concave hole worn into their profile where they dont contact the board anymore. That is how butchers fuck up every knife they touch, pic related.

>>10776340
What in the fuck
How does that even happen?

>>10776340
they almost look like khukris

>>10776265

>>10776358
>How does that even happen?

That's what happens when you use a "steel" aka "honing rod" too much without ever using a stone. You see the same thing if you ever look at antique carving knives--repeated use of the abrasive or serrated steel rod removes metal from the edge.

Now, you might ask yourself why does the blade only get concave near the handle rather than wearing uniformly along the entire edge? Operator error. When people use a steel they don't realize that their mechanical advantage decreases as you go towards the tip of the blade. In other words, the length of the steel and the blade mean that the steel presses harder at the start of a stroke (near the heel of the blade) and as the point of contact travels towards the tip of the knife the pressure is less and less.

>>10776655
Yeah those ordinary grooved steel are nasty. They are really just files that shave off metal. They leave a shit edge full of nicks and burrs that gets dull again very quickly. The proper way to go about it is to produce a good edge on a real stone and maintain that on a microgrooves or smooth steel, with occasional touch-ups on a ceramic rod from time to time.

>>10776265
this is a troll post but in a sense it’s not wrong

never sharpen someone’s knives if they’re used to dull ones, they will end up in the hospital guaranteed

>>10776265
When we say that sharp knives are safer to use than dull ones we assume that you know how to use a knife in the first place. If you are too retarded for that, well then maybe a dull knife is indeed safer. Buying only pre-cut stuff or using your teeth is even safer anon. Do not take any unnecessary risks!

>I unironically use one of these to sharpen my knives

I don't take cooking too seriously but is using this worse than I think it is?

>>10777090
Those do a pretty poor job, but they are better than nothing.

They only time they are problematic is if you press very hard when using them. That doesn't make them work better, it just removes more metal from your knife.

>>10776234
>christians do a variation of it all the time too
You leave DEUS VULT! out of this.

>>10777090
They remove a ton of metal and you get only a pretty poor edge in return.

>>10777147
Are you describing a knife sharpener or modern-day Metallica? lmao!
But yeah, they're not very good. I have one that I use on my cheapest shittiest knives. Wouldn't take it anywhere near the nice ones.

>>10759670

Fuck are you me? Shit happened to me last week. My friends wanted cut up limes for drinks, I went through his entire drawer until I found a knife sharp enough to cut a lime.

>>10777147
>>10777128

The one I have does a pretty good job desu, I was able to cleanly cut a tomato with a knife I had just sharpened off it.

Good enough for me regardless

>>10759670
honestly, people who dont cook well (probably 95% in the western world) ALL only own dull knives.
Even the ones that own a fancy 200$knife for status abuse it til its completely dull.
Basically i never cooked at another home, not a single time, where the knife was sharp. Thats the main reason why i mostly wont do it nowadays, im happy to help with prep,seasoning etc but there is no reason to cook somewhere else when you cant show off and it annoys you the entire time cause everything takes 3x the time

>>10777192
>I was able to cleanly cut a tomato with a knife I had just sharpened off it.
It was probably the ragged apex full of burrs that did that, saw-style. Only if you can still cut the tomato after you have been cutting on the board for a while was it a genuinely sharp edge

>>10777197
>people who dont cook well (probably 95% in the western world) ALL only own dull knives.
And also a lot, a real lot of those who do cook well, even professional cooks. I have said it before, it is quite puzzling how knife sharpning has become a "lost art", like it wasn't something anybody could pick up in ten minutes, at least enough of the basics to let you easily cut a tomato.

>>10777197
this. i have never found an actually sharp knife in any other person's kitchen

>>10769184
I don't let other people sharpen my knives. I've found that people naturally sharpen knives towards the best fit for them by noticing what's sharp and what's not. I've had other chefs say my knives are extremely sharp, then try and cut paper to no effect while I do the standing paper test with no effort.

>Here bro, use my stones to sharpen your knives
>It has a valley down the middle because they sharpen vertically down the stone instead of across

>>10777197
Lol it is 95% whites that own the dull kitchen knives. All other ethnic groups know the importance of a sharp knife. Blacks not included.

>>10777399
>ol it is 95% whites that own the dull kitchen knives. All other ethnic groups know the importance of a sharp knife.
I strongly doubt they have sharper knives in their kitchens. And if they do I betcha they use a $1 pull through sharpener.

>>10760679
why would someone angry about that?

>>10767516
>invite friend over
>he brings a near-full bottle of whisky I forgot at his house
>asks is he can have a finger of it
>I'm too polite to ever refuse a guest something
>over the night he drinks 3/4 of the bottle himself
this guy does this shit all the time. I'm convinced he knows what he's doing and is just taking advantage of my hospitality

>>10777879

>invite friend over
>cook him food
>he eats most of it because i am a little bitch
>complain on internet

>>10777399
>All other ethnic groups know the importance of a sharp knife
I'm Korean, and very few home cooks know how to sharpen their kitchen knives. The few that do, usually do it badly. People do know to bring them to a pro (usually a neighborhood cutlery/kitchenware store) to get them sharpened when they become completely dull to the point they can't cut anything.

>>10760776
>trying to cut a big ass onion with a paring knife that cant even reach the center

>>10765602

Make them buy their own knives. Why are you buying knives for the kitchen, so you can watch the bartender use them to clumsily cut limes?
You're clearly not the Chef, as you mentioned having days off, so I'm a little confused by this post.

>>10759670
>drop knife on kitchen floor
>tip bends
>have friend over, he helps me make dinner
>next morning the tip of the knife isnt bent anymore
>he didnt tell me he fixed my knife because he thought i would get mad at him

>>10778079
he could be a manager or something? not sure either

>>10778064

Haha I had to teach this French guy who lied about kitchen experience how to work on the line once. His first day I asked him to dice an onion. I turn around and look back and he is nervously pressing one of our FOH steak knives down on a lone onion wobbling around on a cutting board with no rag underneath. Good times Guillame

>>10778103
>get a text from a friend 11 pm
>hey anon how do i make curry
tell him everything he needs
>how do i chop an onion?
i had to coach him on every single step over text
ìt took him 3 onions to chop one right

>>10759670
>Friends ask me to make Guacamole for their party.
>Says they'll buy Avacados
>Buys dark green pieces of granite
>Still expects gucamole.

>>10777879
That's me, but I also expect the same from friends. If they don't drink most of my alcohol, I feel like they don't like it. Like, asshole, did I write my name on it? No? then, it's for everyone. Keep up and find the bottom of your cup.

>Have one half decent chef knife
>Roommate has a dozen piece of shit dull colored knives from the 90s
>Immediately loses the blade cover to mine and dulls the shit out of it
Piece of shit motherfucker I dont care if you think YOUR shit is worthless treat mine with some fucking respect

>>10777794
"Because you'll make them dull."

>>10770729
It's shocking how many people don't know shit about cast iron pans.

I even read a story where a worker's restaurant didn't take care of their cast iron pans, and was just going to throw them out. I think it was about $200 worth of cast iron cookware. The guy asked for them since he collected iron scraps (he just wanted the pans). The boss said "go ahead and take them".

At least those pans went to someone who knew how to use them.

>>10777171
>Wouldn't take it anywhere near the nice ones.
What would you say is a "nice one"? $30-$50, or are we talking in the >$100 range?

All you really need is a nice chef's knife, a paring knife, a bread knife and a carving knife, right?

Also, someone recommend me moon chef knives pls

>>10778086
what a nice friend

>>10777879
Hide the booze as soon as you want to call it quits for that bottle. If they go looking for it, mention you want to save the rest for later.

>>10779661
I'm slightly different. I got some nice whisky, or some other kind of spirit. I pour about one finger for each of us. We toast, and he just takes it like a shot out of the tumblr glass.

A shot. Of whisky. Out of a tumblr.

He said it was because of the amount I poured. He thought I was doing a shot instead of a slow drink. I guess people just have different styles of alcohol consumption.

>>10765309
Get out brainlet rudeposter, nobody cares about you here >:(

>>10780013
I'd argue that a home cook needs even less than that.

>>paring knife
Nice for carving fancy little garnishes like high-end restaurants do, but for home cooking there's nothing you really need that for.

>>carving knife
Just use your chef's knife for the rare occasions that you have to carve a roast.

When you're sharpening a knife, you're shaving away dull parts to recreate the blade, right? Do old knives get much smaller from being sharpened so many times?

what fucking autist goes to soneones house and picks up their knives to test the sharpness? they probably think you are about to murder them.

>>10780025
Your friend is drinking to get drunk, dummy. You're trying to have a social whiskey tasting but he's thinking the two of you are partying

>>10781459
>Do old knives get much smaller from being sharpened so many times?
Yes they do.

Pic related is an antique "carving set". Notice how the knife blade is now concave after repeated use of the steel?

>>10781466
I doubt anyone randomly picks up knives. But if I'm at a friend's house and I offer to help with the cooking OFC I'm going to check the knife before I use it.

>>10781524
Neat. Thanks

>>10781466
>not auditing all your friends for compliance

>>10781530
I wish I still had the pic, but it was very telling: A buddy of mine was on safari in africa and the workers who skinned & butchered the animals all had these strange-looking knives. They had a handle like a generic western Chef's knife, but the blades were these tiny little triangles that were no more than 2 inches long. It turns out those WERE full-size chef's knives, they had simply been sharpened so many times over the years there was only a tiny stub where there once was a 10" blade.

>>10781546
>deluging Africans who take care of and keep their tools useful for years
That's what I like to hear

>>10781561
Diligent*

>>10781561
How long do you suppose continental African society will maintain it's already rocky stability once the upcoming troubles in western countries force them to cut off all the aid that's been sent over the past several decades?

>>10781698
Won't really matter because they'll all be in Spain by then.

>>10767516
>know friend for 15 years now
>walk into his house without knocking or telling him i'm coming
>his dog is happier to see me than him
>go directly to his fridge and get cup of pop
>his mom bought thumbprint cookies
>take one too

>>10759670
this was the case for every holiday at my parents house until I started buying them knives myself

>>10781459
>>10781524
this is the same knife bottom one is after 3 years of rough use
apparently they're Masaharu Morimoto's knives

>>10778103
that is Marie's homemade tomato sauce level

>>10781459
If you sharpen carefully and just do occasional touch-ups with a smooth steel or ceramic rod between sharpening sessions a decent knife can last a homecook for decades.

>>10781826
I suppose the Japanese like using high carbon steel rather than stainless steel for their knives. HC steel is softer, so you'd lose more material as you hone it.

No idea what's up with the handle, though.

>>10781900
>HC steel is softer, so you'd lose more material as you hone it.
Stop posting retard

>>10759670
E-celeb faggot