/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11005705
Can you imagine how insufferable it must be, to be around someone who seriously does this...

Its much more polite and effective to let them know your Yelp Elite

>>11005705
Enjoy the spit in your food
I guarantee that person never did this because its just a plot from cheers

Jesus, that's fucked. Kinda pushed the tip meme too far

Imagine only being able to afford a $5 tip on a meal for two.

>>11005714
no it was a plot from third rock from the sun, and they don't steal plotlines from third rate sitcoms my dude

>>11005705
No one's going to bust their balls over 5 bucks, not even a tipcuck. You'd need those to be twenties or at least tens to have the kind of effect you're looking for and even then, I'm not sure a rando waiter is going to get what you're doing at first.

It works if the waiter took the pledge

>You play your cards right, and you can earn five ENTIRE dollars, but if you slight me, it's all over for you. The money will disappear so fast it will make your little server head spin. You have been warned.
I bet that dudes skull is fedora shaped.

>>11005725
Who gives a shit

>>11005732
fans of good television do!

>>11005705
Nice bait thread.

Just for shits and giggles, I wouldn't do this. Not because I give a shit about the server, because I don't want to send the signal of being a judgmental, condescending cheapass douche to my date.

>>11005739
Also, if you're in a restaurant where a 5 dollar tip is supposed to be exceptional, it's too cheap to impress anyone anyway.

>>11005739
it's an alpha move. the roastie will be impressed.

Five dollar tips means their bill was less than 25 dollars for two people.
Did they split one entree ? Then no apps or drinks?

>>11005747
going by the standard white tip, that's a $33.33 subtotal... I don't know my man, you can tuck into that easily if the girl is fine.

>>11005753
That was my first thought, seems like a poorfag move

>>11005705
Must have been a black couple

>>11005749
Believe it or not, there's a difference between an alpha and an asshole and this is right into asshole territory. You're not showing the server who is boss, you're just being an ass about it.

>>11005753
>he fell for the 20% tip meme

>>11005762
it must be tough being poor.

>>11005753
>>11005754
For this to really work and get the sort of service it implies you will, it would need to be more than another average tip, it would need to stand out.

>>11005705
I love the seething rage from waiters any time someone refuses to bend over and grovel for their fine service.
REEEE ONLY PAYING ME $5 TO CARRY A PLATE 10 FEET?
Less than human, really.

>>11005705
Stuff like this is part of why I think tip culture is retarded.
I would much prefer waiters got paid by their employer at some set rate like just about every other job in existence, and instead of needing to try to manipulate them into giving you good service through the threat of less money or the reward of more money you just leave quality assurance to their boss.

Do Americans really tip or its just a meme to mock them

This is asinine. I guarantee that your food would get spit in at the very least. Restaurant workers are pretty creative when it comes to faggots like that though.

>>11005794
They won't even pay servers minimum wage in some places.

>>11005806
Wrong. Stop believing the propaganda. Federal law dictates that if a server's wage + tips do not equal minimum wage, the employer must make up the difference. Wait staff never ever legally make below minimum wage.

>>11005729
Some of these are pretty awful, but most of them are more about bettering yourself and choosing a job you can feel proud of, so I assume the idiotic ones are purely projection. Is this considered completely satire nowadays?

>>11005753
>apps
hi there reddit

I worked as a server, and would intentionally give the worst service possible if someone did this. Good nights were $100+ in tips, I'd be perfectly happy with $95 if I could make some self-important dipshit suffer

>>11005791
It's a necessary evil.
Waitstaff are absolute degenerates, and only provide halfway passable service because they're greedy and have successfully guilted everyone under 40 into tipping obscene rates.
In Europe service is piss-poor compared to the US, the waiters will just lounge in front of the kitchen chatting instead of taking orders or bussing. You're expected to call for their attention and still get waved off two times before they come attend to you.
Tipping prevents this in the US. The money they "earn" from tips would otherwise just be worked into the price of the food, so I don't particularly mind it. If a waiter is rude or does a shit job (or is a thot obviously flirting for tips) I have the opportunity to give them a middle finger in the form of no tip, and chuckly on the way out imagining smoke coming out of their ears because their "hard work" didn't get the money it "deserved"

>>11005794
Unfortunately it's not just a meme and you're expected to tip for all sorts of services.
Any sit down restaurant is the most common example of a place where tipping is the norm and if you don't tip you're almost considered a thief who stole money from waiters.
You're supposed to tip for taxis.
Uber used to be really good about insisting tipping was neither required nor expected, but then they got new leadership and caved in to greedy drivers so now there's a tip feature inside the Uber app and you need to use it or the drivers will give you bad passenger ratings.
Pizza delivery drivers expect tips.
The little deli place that operates inside the building I work at and sells us food so we don't have to do delivery every day even prompts you to make a tip when you pay on their debit / credit car machine, and they can see if you didn't select a tip option because you turn it around to use it and then they turn it back around to finalize the transaction.
You're supposed to tip for haircuts at barber shops.
You're supposed to tip your bartender.
You're supposed to tip the guy who does your valet parking.
You're supposed to tip your maids, like at hotels.
Basically it's worse than you could even imagine. I don't even care about losing extra money, I just hate having to be put into a situation where I'm supposed to do some additional unofficial payment instead of the sane approach which would be for all these businesses to simply pay their employees what their employees should be making and put 100% of whatever I should pay in my actual bill.

>>11005815
>people never break the law

Wage theft is incredibly common and you'd know if you ever worked as a server. Not only do you have to keep records of tips which you will not be given time to do if the restaurant is busy, a lot of places will 100% fire you if you start trying to collect on that. As long as they don't admit that's why and just say some bullshit about you not being a good fit or whatever, there's not shit you can do.

>>11005815
>Thinks corporate America unfailingly obeys all employment laws

Who's the one falling for the propaganda again autismo?

>>11005832
>It's a necessary evil.
It's tipping's reckoning, here to end the borrowed time that waitresses have all been living on.

>see people are only going to tip you $5
>literally half as much as average
>give them shit service all night
>well worth the $5 to ruin their evening

LMAO

>>11005837
>>11005838
So the fact that employers routinely break the law is the consumers' fault? If you're working for someone that's stealing your wages, that's a much bigger and much different problem than someone that doesn't tip.

>>11005845
No, it's a shitty system all around, but you shouldn't take it as an assumption that if you don't tip, the employer will make it up because they often don't despite that being illegal.

>>11005845
Yeah, that's pretty much the whole essence of tip culture right there.
Service employees and their employers are all sorts of fucked up on the pay issue and they've memed into existence an expectation that you, the customer, will make up the difference.

>>11005851
If you and your fellow servers are not being paid minimum for your job on any given day you should do the american thing and sue for compensation, you will earn more money that way and a shitty business will learn its place.

>>11005845
>If you're working for someone that's stealing your wages
Not everyone works for the government, Anon.
Especially waiters

>>11005857
And where exactly is someone who isn't even making minimum wage supposed to get the money for a lawyer? And what money are they supposed to live while the court settles all that?

>>11005857
Minimum wage is an unconstitutional price-floor on labor, it's Marxist, and it's un-American

>>11005818
A lot of young people, regardless of whether they lean left or right, seem more disillusioned with wealth inequality and the dreariness of boomer wageslavery and how they fetishize meaningless toil.
Especially Mike Rowe, who's had cushy TV host jobs for his whole life, yet pushes a beyond-parody "grrr you kids just gotta give em a good firm handshake and do your work"

>>11005863
Their lawyer can be chosen by the state, he will be given the wages and the hours worked, and the minimum wage per hour in their state, it doesn't take a scientist to do that math.
>>11005871
That's exactly what a commie would say, you fucking commie

>>11005845
Doesn't change the fact that servers are routinely paid less than minimum wage, which was my original point you fucking autist.

>>11005880
You're helping to drive that illegal behavior by rewarding it with your own money.

>>11005874
Reminder that despite his public image, Mike Rowe is an opera singer

>>11005882
Well it's specifically allowed in the legal code, so it's not exactly illegal. Tip-workers are basically just like commission-based workers like salesmen; that is, their employers simply give them a venue in which to perform their job, while their income comes from the client side.

>>11005882
Wrong again autismo, I'm just aware of the situation. I haven't eaten in a restaurant since I last worked in one.

>>11005895
>Well it's specifically allowed in the legal code
No it's not. The whole point is that the legal code states that wait staff can never earn less than minimum wage. It is illegal for the employer to not make up the difference.

>>11005895
No where is this true and backed by laws, waiters and servers are not commission based in any way/shape/form.

>>11005902
If they're not earning enough tips to make minimum wage, they should unironically find other employment. Skilled waitresses often make hundreds of dollars a night while they're still young enough for the paypigs.

>>11005705
I can't even imagine what kind of a vile piece of shit does this.

>>11005906
Not the point.

>>11005910
If you are not able to earn enough to live without the government coming in and saying someone HAS TO pay enough for you to make a living, you are indisputably bad at your job.

If your skills were in demand, people would voluntarily pay for them. If you're not making money as a waitress, quit and find somewhere else to wageslave.

>>11005906
Not only is this not the point, but it moves the goalposts to now assume the server cannot make minimum wage on tips alone, which is why the employer (the one who hired her to do this job after reviewing her skills) must pay her at least minimum.
>>11005921
Then why the fuck was she hired? Oh right, because you have bad nights where no one tips no matter the service.

>>11005926
If you're unable to control your budget to have some cushion for bad nights, find another industry, sweetheart. It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools, and a poor waitress who blames her customers.

>>11005935
What's the alternative to a slow night where the 5 or 6 people stopping in order one or two items and don't tip?
>Hurr durr she's not a good waitress
Whether or not she is good, they don't tip, what then?

>>11005757
>blacks
>tipping at all
but I'd rather receive no tip than get this boomer treatment

>>11005940

>>11005943
I've never faced this "redditor telling people to go back to riddit because he has no argument" phenomenon before, and it feels as good as I thought it would. If you ever rely on people to help and make up for any shortcoming you will always be disappointed.

>>11005940
Is your reading comprehension really this poor? I already said it in my previous post. You should be earning enough in your 'On' nights that you can afford the hit of 'Off' nights such that you're averaging a good enough wage overall. You should have enough of a financial cushion that you can afford your bad nights. If you aren't, that means you're averaging more 'Off' nights than 'On', and that can only happen if there's something wrong with the restaurant that's pissing off customers, or there's something wrong with your service. Either way, if you don't like it, leave.

>>11005833
I was staying at a hotel once and my mom tried to tip a guy for opening the door to the lobby luggage store room. It's not like he carried the luggage out for us; he just scanned his keycard on the door and turned the handle.

>>11005954
>something wrong with the restaurant
which in turn is being blamed on the waitstaff?
>there's something wrong with your service
which, since you're making hundreds of dollars on a good night, is being punished by making minimum wage (at worst $60 for a full 8 hour shift here). Not even $100 let alone the hundreds you're making on a good night, which in turn are affected by the restaurant itself? So it's fair to pay people less than minimum because people working at successful restaurants are making bank?

>>11005972
No one deserves anything. No lives matter. You have no inherent right to anything, especially materially. You're a part of the slave caste, a servant, and you will take what your boss' customers are so magnanimous as to give you.

If you truly disagreed with the above, if the above were not true, you wouldn't still be employed as a servant prancing around for tips. You can beg the customer for money, or you can beg the state to force your boss to give you money, but ultimately you're still not in control of your destiny and rely on the magnanimity of men greater than yourself.

>>11005705
A whole 5 bucks as tip for a couple, are they in dennys or something?

>>11006004

Holy shit.
Someone hired you, meaning they guaranteed appropriated compensation in return for you doing a "job". A "job" is something that you will give your time and effort to for someone else for the sole purpose of making money for both them and you. This is not a slave, they are different in that a slave is forced into this labor whether or not it is agreed upon. This is illegal, as of the Civil War in America. If you enter a contract with someone that says you will pay for them for doing this job, it is not legal in any way to not pay them for that job, whether or not they receive help from the people that come into and spend money at your establishment. In this unique situation, you can say that the customer will pay a better amount of your paycheck, but if that amount does not equal the amount of money governed by law, then you will pay that extra sum, according to the law. You agree to and know of this when you open and begin hiring people in this situation.

>>11005705
Peak Boomerism

>>11005833
I refuse to tip at fast casual restaurants ever since the one I worked at had the owner pocketing all the tips and then saying it was because he let all of us eat orders off the menus during our breaks for free. Later I found out he was charging all the employees who had been there less than I had for their meals. Needless to say the place went under soon after I left.

It doesn't even make fucking sense to tip there anyway because no one is actually "serving" you beyond taking your order and calling your number. I am so fucking happy fast casual is destroying shitty sit down chains now.

>>11005776
Imagine thinking not needlessly giving away your money makes one poor or cheap. You Americans were conditioned well.

>>11005729
Are people satiring general good life advice nowadays?

>>11006087
It's like those 'mosquito alarms' that only people under-30 can hear. If you see nothing wrong with that image, you are a boomer who's blind to the issues of the [current year].

>>11005729
most of these are actually fine, the shit about being passionate wageslaving at taco bell can fuck right off though.

>>11005722
>being able to afford a $5 tip o
imagine thinking you're entitled to other peoples money
get a new job

>>11005837
>Wage theft i
and that's not my job to fix or care about
get a new job

>>11005776
I tip 10$ on 100$ meals. Just enough to not get marked as bad customer.
Why FOH mooks who bring plates from A to B deserve tips when 95% of customer facing jobs don't is beyond me
Heroin is expensive I guess

>>11006124
I mean back when I worked shitty jobs like that generally the people who weren't complete shit slacking off all the time went on to make something of themselves. But that might be kind of a chicken-egg thing.

>>11006342
I tip a flat 10% on everything, except delivery. I tip 2$ for delivery no matter what, unless the person gives me a polite greeting and smile you won't get more than that.

I had some fat mexican tell me "that's it" when I tipped him 2 dollars, for 3 pizzas and 2 sides. Prior to handing me the receipt to sign he made an unnecessary commend of "you must have a big family" or something similar, when all of the pizza was just for me, barely 100lbs at the time. I was extremely offended and never ordered from papa johns again

the entitlement is insane, and delivery drivers actually make a lot of money, i know a delivery driver part time, he gets paid 1.5k or more a day to add to his job, just part time.

>>11006354
ah yes, he makes >$390000 a year delivery pizzas

>>11006424
>part time
>delivers every day, even holidays, when the store is closed

>>11005725
That was a great show, liked it more than Seinfeld and that 70s, and the drew carrey show.

>>11005776
Being absolutely serious here, I can't imagine tipping 20% on every restaurant meal even if I was rich. You're already paying 100% for your meal which is already marked up quite high, snd then another 20% on top of it for good will towards servers who may not have even done anything exceptional towards you. For me the whole point of tipping is when you really liked a person's service and wanted to show your appreciation, not an expectation for every transaction.

>>11005883
I can see it. He has a great voice

>>11006465
>your meal which is already marked up quite high
Good point. A successful restaurant will keep food costs at or below 30%, so you're paying between three to four times what it cost to make it. Like hell I'm also paying an extra 20-25% gratuity on top of it.

>>11005705
What kinds of shit restaurant is that where 20% of a meal for two spis $5?

Anywhere halfway decent these days has professional salaried staff anyway

Minimum wage is unironically a living wage.

>>11005754
>33.33 for 2 people

Yeah nah maybe if each meal is 25-30$ a peice its something to sneeze at, otherwise you're chain tier eating. Not impressive at all.

>>11005754
>I’m white therefore I’m not a loser
said the white loser who thinks red lobster is fine dining

>americans tip
>they belittle you for not tipping
>literally thinking they are alpha because they give money away for no reason

So, to be more alpha than americans, I'd have to roll a few cigars on yuro bills and wipe my arse with cash? Is this the only thing cuckold fetishists (i.e. americans) have now to assert their "masculinity"?

>>11005705
This is the shit you see in family sitcoms followed by the sassy grump father being thrown out of the restaurant

>>11006878
Exactly. I think its up to the restaurant owners to treat their employees well financially, we're already more than doing our part as customers money wise. Expecting large tips from everyone is simple greed if you don't care about the good will that comes with it.

>>11006453
It's better than 70's and drew carrey but fuck off Seinfeld is so much better

>>11006453
Thank you. We're glad you enjoyed it!

>>11005776
>>11006335
>>11006338
While the OPs image is a joke and incredibly insulting; people saying 'get a new job' sound like some jerks with everything handed to them.
Most waiters/waitresses are working on the side to make ends meet or are uneducated or 16 years old.
>'get another job'
Yeah, like the macdonalds or the walmart.

>>11006981
>that pic
is that percapita or just total numbers. Something tells me that they're just total numbers.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/porn-cuckold-giantess-popularity-uk-surges-study-pornhub-a7511866.html
What you failed to mention was that giantness was 4x more popular than cuckholding....

>>11007133
>cuckporn being pushed by the jewish mindgeek porn conglomerate at increasing rate
>it gets more popular
Whoda thunk it?

>>11007143
I'm not reading that novel of an image. Please go back to /pol/.

>>11007221
>*block his ears with his hands*
>lalalalalalala I can't hear you
>le pol le pol xDD
Didn't expect anything else from the normie/female/non-white containment board honestly.

>>11006035
Indentured servitude is still slavery. Go read atlus shrugged a few more times you spoiled little rich kid who hasn't done anything of value in your entire worthless existence.

>>11007253
What the fuck are you talking about anon.
You sound like a stark-raving imbecile wearing a tinfoil hat.

>>11005903
It's an analogy, autismo.

>>11006051
unironically this

>>11005705
I wouldn't do this first and foremost because money is fucking filthy. Only cell phones and sponges have a higher content of bacteria, not to mention all the other contaminants that have been rubbed all over it, especially $1 bills, your meal is probably sharing table space with bills that have been up male stripper's buttcracks and up dope fiend nostrils.

>>11007369
>Snorting coke through a 1 dollar bill

Poor nigger.

>>11005705
I can already smell the salty ragie wagies-
>>11005714
like clockwork
Daily reminder you aren't entitled to tips just because you choose to get fucked in the ass making two dollars an hour from Mr. Shekelberg.

>>11007285
>the equivalent of saying "Huh?"
Keep going soyguzzler.

>>11007398
>>11007253
>>11007143
You can't go a sentence without screaming buzzwords and crying about normies.
>can't think of a response
>better just double down
Nice anon. I'm sure the folks in your discord love you.

>>11007429
>responds to my post with "ur retarded lol"
>I belittle him for it
>says I can't come up with a response
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

>>11006087
Most of that is not good life advice. You think it builds character but really its just employers exploiting you and you having low standards.

>>11005926
You're missing the final piece of the puzzle. Sure the owners might pay them once if they can't meet minimum wage, but if the poor performance continues they'll just conjure up a reason to fire that waiter/waitress in favor of someone who is more charismatic or cuter that can get the tips.

>>11007466
Anon that's not what I've said at all.
I do find it extremely ironic that you would link psycho projection.

>>11006096
What mosquito alarms?

>>11007480

In this fantasy you've made up, sure.

>>11005824
This. You know from the beginning that you're going to get a shitty tip at best. Might as well fuck them over so they won't come back and waste your time again.

>>11007497
>he says ">can't think of a response"
>anon that's not what I've said at all
Wel I just feel a bit bad now, you might actually be mentally challenged or black. It's alright bro.

>>11007221
>doesn't read
>afraid to investigate
>afraid to question
>afraid to confront your prefabricated opinions
Yea, /pol/ is dumb amirite.

>>11007541
Shut the fuck up strumdrumfper, go be racist somewhere else.

>>11007513
>Restaurants dont fire waiters that customers dont like

You're finished. The curtain falls.

>>11007538
>broken record 'cant think of a response' posting
>think you've got some moral highground for /pol/ memeing and being unironically 'woke'
oookay.

>>11007577
>broken record = stop reminding me of my posting mistakes
>le pol le pol evrything i dun liek is le pol
Is this what your kind refers to as "cringe"?

>>11007545
A) who is being racist?
B) why is racism bad?

>>11007619
Dude can you get the fuck out of here? We don't care about how your weenie is small.

>>11006124
Are you too good to work at taco bell?
If you take a wage slave job, that is your decision.
Do you take a job with the idea of resenting it ?
Do you take a job with the idea that you will not do your best?

>>11005705
Seeing wagies screaming about this based behaviour is hilarious

Nothing brings out internet tough guys than someone with the guts to btfo wagies, they freak out about how they'd TOTALLY SPIT IN HIS FOOD AND SPILL HIS DRINK and everyone would clap

>>11005714
>Enjoy the spit in your food
enjoy getting written up when I inform the manager

I got a starbucks employee fired for complaining after I threw a drink at them. The customer is always right.

>>11005722
imagine expecting a tip at all

>>11005802
>I guarantee that your food would get spit in at the very least. Restaurant workers are pretty creative when it comes to faggots like that though.

I guarantee you people will be out of a job when I inform your manager.

You'll be hearing from my attorney. Contaminating food is a federal offence.

>>11006924
obscure furry stickers, i can't fucking find the artist

>>11005824
>I'd be perfectly happy with $95 if I could make some self-important dipshit suffer

I hope you're happy with unemployment if that's your attitude. Customer is always right.

>>11007679
>implying you can prove you didn't spit on it yourself

>>11005837
>Not only do you have to keep records of tips which you will not be given time to do if the restaurant is busy, a lot of places will 100% fire you if you start trying to collect on that.

based

>>11007658
Why is racism bad? No one has ever answered me. I'm not saying I'm racist, I just want to know why it's unethical.

>>11006949
salty tears, mmm almost as good as the cheddar rolls

>>11007688
the managers/employers don't have enough sense to pay them properly, how are they going to have enough sense to punish them?

>>11007701
It's a bad thing for the same reason that any other form of prejudice is: it leads to false positives.

>>11007701
because it screws the individual
If a black guy has an IQ of 150 and is a sophisticated non violent person but is treated like a street thug for no other reason than the color of his skin, that person has been wronged and that is immoral

>>11007720
>the managers/employers don't have enough sense to pay them properly
What makes you think they aren't paying them properly? What restaurant ownership or management experience do you have? Because it sure sounds like virgins discussing sex in here.

>>11007722
not really, he has no expectation of being treated like a gentle genius as the default interaction

>>11007663
>Am I too good to work at taco bell
Lmao fuck no of course not but at the end of the day you NEED a job to survive. The protestant work ethic meme needs to die

>>11007721
What is unethical about not wanting to live around people of different races? What is wrong with false positives? If you always lock your door you don't need to worry about burglaries. If you only live with your own race you don't need to worry about racially motivated attacks.

>>11007722
Why should I care about that individual? Take the color away from the 150 IQ person. Why should I care about them if they are of a different group of people and my group of people has dozens of 150 IQ individuals?

>get into restaurant
>make my order to go
>Get my food
>They still want me to tip them
This shit has gone too far

>>11007730
>he has no expectation of being treated like a gentle genius as the default interaction
Clearly he shouldn't be lauded as a genius as a default interaction, but he shouldn't be labeled a thug either, unless he exhibits thug behavior.

>>11007744
He will not be labeled as a thug if he stays with his own people.

>>11007739
>What is wrong with false positives?
>What is wrong with wrong?

> If you always lock your door you don't need to worry about burglaries
Nope. Burglars can kick in doors, pick locks, break windows...

>>If you only live with your own race you don't need to worry about racially motivated attacks.
Correct. But you also lose the benefit of other race's culture, food, perspectives, and so on.

>>11007749
Expanding, he will thrive amongst his own kind>>11007752

>>11007722
>Nigger
>150 iq
>Non violent
Bring him to our next unicorn polo match, we'd love to introduce him to Nessie and Sasquatch.

>>11007742
>Why should I care about that individual?
Because golden rule. It could just as easily be you rather than our hypothetical individual that we are discussing.

Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Would you like it if someone wanted to incarcerate or otherwise punish you for being a 4chan user because "all 4chan users are degenerate hacker pedos" when you are not (presumably) a malicious pedophile?

>>11007681
it's from nowandlater

>>11007749
So what?

no because I dont tip if I eat out with someone else because they will probably tip

>>11007752
The burglar thing was a metaphor, you retard, dont be deliberately thick. If you look at it objectively there is nothing I've found that is unethical about ethnic nationalism. Why is it bad that I was wrong about an outlier? Is the outlier entitled to interact with me? Am I as a racist entitled to interact with anyone I want?
I cite Ruby abridge as an example often. A racist lives with his family alone on a mountain. Who are they hurting?
When it comes down to it, every argument about race has always assumed racism is inherently wrong without questioning the assertion.

>>11007755
And now you see the immorality.
You do not believe this anon exists , yet statistics insist he must.
When you see him, even if he is in a suit and tie and has a better command of the english language than you do, you are going to imagine you are his better.
You are not.
You are commiting a sin.

>>11005722
that tip is fine if the two meals are $50 or less

>>11007742
Why are you so insitant on own group preference ?

>>11005753
>tipping 20% unless for exceptional service
what's next shlomo? next year 30% will be the norm?

>>11007764
If they are imprisoning me for being a 4chan user it's easy to explain why it is unethical. Forcing people to do things they dont want to do is bad, would you not agree? Just because you're racist doesn't mean you're violent. It's not a justification for slavery.

>>11007781
Ten percent is an insulting tip

>>11007773
>Why is it bad that I was wrong about an outlier?
>Why is it bad that I was wrong?
Being wrong is bad. No more, no less.

>>A racist lives with his family alone on a mountain. Who are they hurting?
Depends on the specifics, really. Best case scenario? Only themselves. Most likely: others.

>> always assumed racism is inherently wrong without questioning the assertion.
We've already been over that. It's wrong because prejudice of any kind leads people to make mistakes. Perhaps those mistakes only affect you, but they are mistakes nonetheless.

>>11007774
>sin
Does not exist either. Fuck niggers and your church, jesuscuck

>>11005705
>Can anyone confirm? Does this work.
It looks like a good way to come across as an asshole, where people might tamper with your food. It also demonstrates a type of sociopath mentality. This is your passive aggressive tendency to violate others with no remorse. Tipping levels will happen by you, at the time you choose to leave, irregardless of whatever mind games you play with yourself as you hope to judge another person without their knowledge. This demonstrates nothing effective for better service except your personality sucking so much that you regularly get bad service everywhere you go. It'll be your vibe. It's all you, sir, and no game is going to fix the problems with you. If you haven't figured out yet, that to get what you want, you give what you want, then, you will never be satisfied.

Keep in mind that rich Leona Helmsley was never satisfied in her help and their ability to perform services. But, nice people don't often get slighted. Your level of service, forgotten things that you don't actually take core of by communication skills, can be indicative of you, or things out of a servers control like overworking, not enough help, etc. You can also try finer dining when service matters to you, where there are 2 helpers for every table, not just your official waiter. Bussers, asst waiters, managers circulating, as well as sommelier for your topped off wines. Once you find businesses that service well, you become loyal. If you take care of a particular waitress well each time you go, you get repeat performances on subsequent visits.

not only do I limit the amount I tip to $5 or less
but I will also subtract what ever the in house ATM fee is from my tip

if they have a problem with it I tell them to take it up with the owner to get their money

>>11007787
Because I believe a sustainable society requires common values. Multiculturalism opens the society for any sort of values that may be subversive to the values of another group and make taxation unjustified.

>>11007794
$0 is an insulting tip, 10% is fine.

>>11007793
>If they are imprisoning me for being a 4chan user it's easy to explain why it is unethical.
How is that any different than labeling someone violent or degenerate simply because of their race?

>> Forcing people to do things they dont want to do is bad, would you not agree?
Not necessarily, it depends entirely on what that something is.

>>11007795
>Being wrong is bad. No more, no less
Is it wrong to not want to take a chance?
>Depends on the specifics, really. Best case scenario? Only themselves. Most likely: others.
They literally live on a hill with no interaction with anyone else. How are they hurting themselves? Because they've never heard of chicken vindaloo or the dab?
>We've already been over that. It's wrong because prejudice of any kind leads people to make mistakes. Perhaps those mistakes only affect you, but they are mistakes nonetheless.
You can't make a prejudicial mistake based on race if there is only one race of people in your area of influence.

>>11007819
We dont agree that forcing someone to do something they dont want to do is bad? So it's okay to enslave people?

>>11007774
>h-he's better than you because he's black!
lesson in morality from Trayvon Eintein over here

>>11007722
So we should just assume that funny looking black guy coming towards you wants to engage in meaningful discussion about Decartes essays.

Oh wait, that's not how survival works. Prejudice has helped humanity for millenia and it keeps helping them. Niggers as a whole are violent thugs who will beat you up, rape you or steal from you, so if you are prejudiced against them, you might be able to act smart and avoid getting niggered. If you approach every nigger as if he was your friend on the other hand... See video.

To make it easier for you to understand:
>in the forest
>see dangerous predator
>"oh well, I've seen and I've been told that this species is very dangerous and have a lot of confirmed human kills, what do?"

>be prejudiced and fight or flight
>live

>damn prejudices bro, I shouldn't judge this fine dangerous predator, for all I know he could be a super intelligent and friendly criature, hello!
>dies

See how prejudices aid you?

>>11005705
but what if i dont tip?

>>11007752
>Correct. But you also lose the benefit of other race's culture, food, perspectives, and so on.

>you can't share culture, food and perspectives with other people if you don't live next door to them

Like we didn't share books, philosophy, food, spices and recipes all over the world before globalization and white population replacement, you are truly retarded.

>>11007839
It's obvious to those who aren't brainwashed like you and I, but when arguing with a retard you cant go in guns blazing telling them about crime statistics and shouting nigger. You have to ease them into the idea with a neutral colored argument. If they still dont agree with you then it's obvious that segregation would harm their group and they're likely a nigger.

>>11007846
This Right Fucking Here. Just because I want to live in an ethnostate doesn't mean I HATE other races or cultures. It's simply a matter of shared ancestry and values. That's the only way to get a cohesive society.

>>11007846
we did not share cultures and never have. The strong absorb and adapt anything valuable about the weak. Niggers are weak, which is why they are only dangerous in groups or when armed.

>>11007822
>Is it wrong to not want to take a chance?
No.

>How are they hurting themselves?
By missing out on things they are excluding themselves from, like, say, Chicken Vindaloo.

>>You can't make a prejudicial mistake based on race if there is only one race of people in your area of influence.
True, but irrelevant. No man is an Island.

>>11007828
>>We dont agree that forcing someone to do something they dont want to do is bad?
Correct. I thought I made it perfectly clear that it depends on what that "something" is.

>>slavery
That's an example of something that's not OK.

Alright, let me explain something to you. Your job is not hard. You’re lucky society allows it to even exist. You think the customer couldn’t take his plate from the pass and work the fountain?

Your Basic Job
>Toss my plate onto the table.
>Fill my glass when I sit down.

That’s the bare bones of your job. If that’s all you’re willing to do, that’s fine. But know that your salary is commensurate to the difficulty of the task.

Your Real Job
>Place my plate on the table with a smile and a friendly “heeeeere you gooooo. :)” Yes, you need to be bubbly as heck.
>Refill my glass, and anything else I have that needs refilling, regularly, and without me having to flag you down like a goddamn Apache helicopter.
>Ask me midway through my meal if everything is okay.
>Do everything you can to rectify the situation if it’s not.
>Bring my bill promptly, but not before asking if I want to order dessert.
>If it’s very busy and food is slow coming, come to my table a little while after I order and apologize for the situation.

That’s what is EXPECTED of you. If you’re not willing to do that, that’s fine. But all that is what you get tipped for. You get tipped for doing an exceptional job. You get tipped for adding to the experience of the customer. Your job is to make me feel like a KING. Your job is to make me feel like less of an idiot for dropping $30 on $4 worth of food and $1 worth of energy and labor. Your job is to act like your ability to go to the drug store and pick up your baby's ear medicine depends solely on MY enjoyment of the evening, MY generosity, and MY wallet. I am your GOD.

>>11007859
I just can't deal with it anymore and don't have the nerve to slowly put sense in to them. I mean, it is so logical, so natural, that the fact someone doesn't understand it it's an insult to existence itself. I'm not a tardwrangler man, props to those who take the time but from my experience, those that have been brainwashed at a young age have already built their whole worldview on cultural marxism and they can't psychologically destroy his own personality no matter how right the other person is. He becomes for all intents and purposes, a zombie.
>>11007866
They can't fit into their cucked heads that someone can be a white nationalist, love his people, want them unmixed and living on their own ethnospace and read Sun Tzu or some shit in the afternoons.

You have to either be absolutely isolated or straight up sucking nigger dicks, they are basically children in adult's bodies.

>>11007872
>By missing out on things they are excluding themselves from, like, say, Chicken Vindaloo.
Not an argument. Also>>11007846
>True, but irrelevant. No man is an Island.
No, but an island nation inhabited by one race, say Hawaii before colonialism, is going to do just fine.
>Correct. I thought I made it perfectly clear that it depends on what that "something" is.
I need an example of something that is okay to force some to do.

>>11007869
I wasn't talking about niggers, do they even have a culture? Anyway you're right, I was mostly refering to things like books, points of view, foods, seeds, recipes, etc.

>>11007890
The tide is turning, friend. Cultural Marxism is being exposed. Look at the Democrats right now, they're a laughing stock propped up by a failing main stream media.

>>11007672
>Throwing a drink at an employee

Yeah, I usually don't respond to clear edge/bait lords like yourself, but SBs would legitimately not side with you. However mediocre of a company it is, employee safety trumps customer satisfaction, because lawsuits you fucking moron.

t. former SB employee that had a guy dump a cup of coffee down my back because I gave him "cold coffee" the day before. I had a conversation with the regional manager and a week of paid time off by the next day. The guy ended up paying ~$1k fine only because one of our regulars got his license plate.

>>11005725
I think it might be from Cheers though, because 1987 was the last time $5 was worth enough to inventivise better service.

>>11007953
based Dick btfoing the weight staff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ReJJkHPTL4

>>11005705
>threatening to take away a measly five dollars from your waiter
>threatening the people who handle your food
Doesn't strike me as a good idea, especially with so little on the line anyway.

>>11007935
imagine being such a soyboy weenie that some coffee makes you cry to daddy shekelberg

>>11007998
t. Shekelberg who doesn't want to compensate his workers

>>11007672
Imagine lying on the internet like this

>this thread

>>11007126
>Most waiters/waitresses are working on the side to make ends meet or are uneducated or 16 years old.

By saying this, you're implying they either have a second, more lucrative source of income, or they don't need the money as badly as someone in the real world, either of which is not a very good argument for why we should be paying them extra for no real reason besides societal pressure.

>>11005705
If I were a server and encountered this I'd basically give the shittiest, low effort service possible. A $5 tip at most isn't worth putting up with retarded assholes who've never eaten at a restaurant before.

>tfw friends tip at 20% and guilt trip me into doing the same
Also fuck pizza companies adding in q "delivery charge" nowadays (that doesn't even go towards the driver) and still expecting people to tip. Why not have that charge go towards the driver so tipping can finally end?

>>11005705
why do americans tip at all? in other countries servers always strive for 100% and don’t even accept tips, but in america it’s like your playing a game.“you want the $5? be a good girl and you might even get extra!”
it’s so demeaning

>>11005705
How to guarantee cum in food 101

>>11006981
Wow it's almost like the US has a significantly larger population or something.

>>11008505
That always annoyed me. Shit needs to be adjusted per capita like gun crime and other statistics

>>11008505
>all of europe together doesn't even come close to 15%
>the fetish is even unheard of in eastern europe
Nice cope, cuckboy. Now we know why you let your slaves roam free.

>>11005876
You're real fucking dumb mate.

>>11007470
it's better life advice than complaining to the gubmint for gibs.
>except when your goal is to exploit employers while performining the bare minimum of labor.
enjoy wearing your 7 peices of flair.

>>11007545
>back 2 toomblar

>>11007688
Customer is always right in retail and hospitality

Customer is never fucking right when it comes to food service

tipping is bullshit because of the entitlement. it's supposed to be for better service, but the little bitches don't even try to hide the fact that they intentionally give poor service if they think someone isn't going to tip. why the fuck do they even deserve extra money for carrying a plate 20 feet and pouring water into a glass? if your job can be replaced by a conveyor belt you should be glad you're getting paid at all. I guaruntee you that the vast majority of people only tip because they're afraid of retaliation. if tips were put in a jar by the door instead of on the table tips would drop to barely anything.

>>11007721
it's a downside, but not the final determination of utility. all attempts at demographics will have statistical margins of error.

>>11007737
compare a wagie to a laotian subistence farmer, and see who has more "protestant work ethic"

>>11008845
imagine thinking like this unironically

Kek, figures the poorfag country with 20 trillion dollars of debt would legally allow its restaurants to pay below the minimum wage and allow customers to use their waitress's wage subsidy as a threat.

>tfw not an americunt

>>11008873
as a customer you can actually hurt the staff if they suck at their job outside of just punishing their boss by not coming back or complaining about them
it's kind of based to see the waitress' face fall when you give them nothing for a job poorly done

>>11008873
>implying you're not an underaged american on summer vacation

Dumb frogposter

>>11008830
>all attempts at demographics will have statistical margins of error.
Sure, but that doesn't mean you can't strive to reduce error as much as possible.

For example, consider >>11007839 's point here:
>in the forest
>see dangerous predator

Instead of using "a black man" as your criteria for danger, why not use "dressed/acts like a thug [regardless of skin color]" instead?

>>11007916
>I need an example of something that is okay to force some to do.
Vaccinate their children
Pay their taxes if they are using taxpayer funded infrastructure
Clean up their messes (i.e. if they contaminate their land with toxic industrial waste they're on the hook for cleaning it up)
Ceasing criminal behavior if and when they are being violent towards others

>>11007839
>Tim Byrne(guy seizing out) went into a brief coma and is still undergoing physical therapy for neurological issues as of May 2018


Fucking niggers, man. At least they were all sentenced. Makes my blood boil.

>>11008942
https://nypost.com/2018/05/23/attackers-dodge-maximum-sentences-after-victims-ask-for-leniency/

and the whi*te cucks begged the courts to let them off, lmfao, you faggots are all heart. it's touching, really.

>>11008967
I'd have asked for attempted murder

Bless them for trying to heal rather than punish, that's the kinda shit that will actually change things. I'm too much of a vengeful fuck though.

>>11008927
Check out this literal communist. This is what's wrong with the world.

>>11008913
>Instead of using "a black man" as your criteria for danger, why not use "dressed/acts like a thug [regardless of skin color]" instead?

because xe is incapable of that. xe wants it to be as simple as possible.

>>there's a big scary dog! run!
a non-idiot can look at body language of said dog and can see right away if the dog is being hostile or just wants to see what's up.

>>11008978
Almost an accurate analogy

Niggers are like pitbulls though, they don't show body language until they're chomping at your face or sucker punching you for your phone. Some creatures are simply dangerous and should always be regarded with caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqp9uFGKK-M

>>11007672
First of all, lies. Second, be careful going around abusing wage slaves. I or someone like me will stand up to you for them and generally more follow once someone calls you out. I've made fools of several of you fucking morons and will continue to do so.

>>11008990
>hey don't show body language until they're chomping at your face

If you're a chairbound 'sperg keyboard surfer I can see you having that opinion. If you've been out around people it's utter nonsense. There are always tells, and it has nothing to do with skin color. You can take a gangbanger and dress him up in a fancy suit but his posture, manner of walking, and manner of speaking will always give him away regardless if he's white, black, asian, mexican, whatever....

>>11007935
I imagine this isn't the first time a guy dumped something on you fucking SoyBucks faggot

>>11009030
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

ho-ly fuck, nothing more pathetic than a cuck who thinks he's hard. no one has ever followed your lead, frontin faggot.

>>11009045
I've been out and around plenty of people. The world isn't a sitcom, people who are going to victimize you do not walk around with their pants around their ankles covered in gold chains.

Skin color is an instant tell though. Never turn your back, and always secure your valuables when they're around.

>>11007672
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE FIT SCREENCAP IN WHICH A FITIZEN GETS FIRED BECAUSE A COSTOMER TREW COFFEE AT HIM!?

>>11009057

>>11009059
>Skin color is an instant tell though
So you're asserting that every black you've ever met tried to rob or assault you?

>>11009151
I'm asserting black people grow up in a culture that turns them into opportunistic criminals

>>11005705
unless you and your wife are getting out of a sit down restaurant for $20 or less you can keep your poor asses at the house. No one in that industry wants to serve you and if ever came into my restaurant to try and pull that shit i'd refuse you service and ask you to leave.

>>11007794
I've never understood this percentage meme. It's not as if the cost of a meal equates to the difficulty for the cooks or server to deliver that meal. It's such nonsense.

>>11009156
Woudn't that extend to poor trash in general, regardless of skin color?

>>11008331
I don't tip delivery drivers for that very reason. Fuck that bullshit system.

>>11009167
it's just an easy rule of thumb. Generally speaking, higher cost means more dishes, or in the case of higher end restaurants, more knowledge regarding the dishes

It's almost like it makes the process easier so people and more streamlined for the nonpoors who don't have to worry about a buck or two difference

>>11009167
>It's such nonsense.
Welcome to life. Nobody said it was equitable.

Does it also trigger you that a salesman at an expensive car dealership makes higher commissions than one at a cheap car dealership? Does it require more effort or skill to sell a Ferrari compared to a Ford?

What about sales tax? Does an expensive diamond ring require more infastructure funds than a case of beer?

>>11008927
You got btfo. You want to force people to pay taxes regardless of what the money is spent on including things that are contrary to the values of the individual. If a society has common values then taxation is acceptable, but not when society has no cohesion.
I can get behind pollution and crime, naturally, but your whole system falls apart when you force people to fund things that they seem to be immoral. Close up shop lad, you're finished.

>>11009190
Awww man. I used the wrong image... and on the kill shot. Disappointing.

>>11009175
I don't think so, black role models are mostly rappers that escaped the system of oppression through riches and fame, so self-worth is more tied into not being poor.

>>11009190
>n including things that are contrary to the values of the individual.
I didn't say that at all. I limited my comments about taxation to those things a person actually uses. I would assume that if there were something that a person doesn't approve of based on values then that person wouldn't be using those services/infrastructure.

Who said anything at all about funding things which are immoral? I'm talking about things like roads and bridges, emergency services, etc.

>>11009128
>trolls trolling trolls
how's that fruit thread going my dude?

>>11009188
That analogy is terrible, and you know it. Commission is a set percentage that the dealership establishes. Sales tax is a set percentage to ensure the transfer of goods and services for cash is supporting the government/state, and it only makes sense to get more from larger transfers. But tipping percent? Nothing set there and so there is no standards. Sure, 15% can be seen as a good rule of thumb, but it doesn't account for the difficulty of the work. Some meals are more expensive because of the ingredients being used, and not because of the difficulty in preparation or the dishes needed to be used/delivered.

>>11009217
We're getting off topic but my main point is racism is not immoral/bad/wrong and in fact quite logical and ethical from a societal point of view.

this is funny but i will never tip not my job to pay your bills

>>11009242
Then dont tip, no one is forcing you to.

>>11009224
>That analogy is terribe and you know it
Call me a sperg but no, I don't see how its terrible.

>Commission is a set percentage that the dealership establishes.
How is that different from tipping? Does it matter that the set percentage is set by societal norms rather than a dealership?

>and it only makes sense to get more from larger transfers.
It makes sense that industries which require more use of public services or infrastructure pay more money, but it's silly to have it based on price. My examples weren't arbitrary, they were carefully chosen. That case of beer is heavy. Its handleing puts more wear and tear on roads than a diamond ring does. The fact that it's alcohol means that it requires more government services too (liquor licenses, etc). So why shouldn't it pay more into public funds than a terribly lightweight ring?

>>Sure, 15% can be seen as a good rule of thumb,
Sounds like a good enough "standard" to me.

>>.. but it doesn't account for the difficulty of the work. Some meals are more expensive because of the ingredients being used, and not because of the difficulty in preparation or the dishes needed to be used/delivered.
Sounds exactly like the difference between a Ferrari and a Ford.

>>11009246
you dont need to tell me dipshit thats what it meant when i said i will never tip

>>11009263
K, don't tip dude. It's fine.

>>11005705
>work extra hard to make 5 extra dollars this hour
Or
>serve that table poorly and focus on other tables to get a much better return on tips
Hmm....