/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Personally didn't like Belvanie 12 year. I know it's generally received well as a non peated scotch but to me it just resembled a decent Tennessee whisky that did not deserve the price it asks for.

>>11365596
Looks peaty AF.

>>11366195
Dude, it is peaty af, you should buy a bottle.

Glenlivet is shit, glengoyne is the real deal.

>>11365596
Don't buy single malts with no age statement, unless you have evidence that they're good. (Occasionally they are, but sometimes they're just crud that's not ready for sale).

Anything that comes out of this distillery tastes like liquid shit.

I bought a bottle to try and it was a struggle to drink, I ended up mixing with Coke.

>>11366404
How do you get 80 proof liquor without distilling?

>>11365596
All my favorite scotch is from the south of Islay, like Laphroaig. Very peaty

>>11366404
That label looks like it tastes bad

>>11365596
Jack Daniels. Any non-trailer trash drinking that garbage should be hanged.
Also anyone spending more than $100 a bottle ought to be castrated for being a cuck

>>11366195

Dude, NO.

It's not at all, NO peat. No earthiness or smoke. It smells a bit like vanilla and cream before you taste it, then its a microsecond of watery caramel followed by bitter alcohol after taste and its not smooth at all. Its weak to taste and harsh going down.

>>11366339

Got it.

I just wanted to just pick something out, but i should have researched.

>>11366404
yeah the jura superstition is also terrible imo

>>11366472
Nothin wrong with jag dagnels

>>11365596
>>11365602
>>11366404

whisky bottles should not curve. It looks like fucking cough syrup

any speyside.

>>11366422
the only other way is to freeze something that has alcohol in it and remove the ice, the remaining liquid will have a higher alcohol content. HOWEVER this doesn't allow you to remove the methanol so have fun going blind.

>>11366449
stop judging whiskey based on how the bottle looks

>>11365596
I'd suggest trying a few different whiskeys at a bar, it might seem expensive but it's cheaper than buying a bunch of bottles that you end up hating

>>11365596
Not whisky but Hendrick's Gin isn't worth the price.

On to single malts. I can usually find something to like about any single malt, but tbhwydesu Oban was pretty disappointing. So was Glenlivet's Nadurra.

Probably the worst blended scotch I've ever tasted was Cutty Sark. Smells exactly like nail polish. J&B is the same price and much more palatable.

Stay away from any bottom shelf whisky that's "blended." Those are cheap young bourbons cut with grain alcohol and water.

>>11366819
by blended I'm assuming you mean blended american whiskey, right? I've had some fantastic blended malts, and Michter's American is pretty good

>>11366827
yes. i mean bourbon cut with grain alcohol, and NOT a blend of single malt scotches or properly barrel aged bourbons.

>>11366838
ah, then yeah I'd agree with you. That's probably one of the issues with why a lot of Canadian whiskey tastes pretty mediocre

I wasn't impressed with tincup. I don't regret buying it on discount for 18$ but I'd never pay full price for the gimmick.

>>11365596
>>11366404
I know shit about whiskey, but I wouldn't have bought either of those, simply because the packaging looks like that of a cheap perfume.

>>11367118
>i buy things or not because of the packaging
way to out yourself as a big dummy, anon

Glenlivet is usually pretty good, and that particular style of blue may have been trying to compete with Johnny Walker Blue Label. I'm sure it's crap though. Their usual whiskies are top tier, I don't know how much rarer it can get.

>>11367123
>way to out yourself as a big dummy, anon
You mean to say that me starting out that I don't know shit about whiskey wasn't the part that outed me?

So I want a good whiskey to get hammered on for this weekend playing RDR2. What's something good that can be mixed and not break the bank.

>>11367169
>mixed
Literally the cheapest. If you wanna be fancy, buy Red Label.
Dont waste your money on anything even a bit expensive if youre just gonna mix it.

>>11367178
Well then non mixed. I've had all the glenlivets and others like it. Nikka looked interesting. Like to be buzzed to get immersed.

>>11367183
>Nikka looked interesting
Spoiler: it's not.
If you get Nikka from the barrel for 30$, then you might think about buying it. In here its over 60$ and totally not worth it. For a cheap whisky its good, for a expensive whisky its bad.
Try monkey shoulder, really good stuff. Pretty generic, dried fruits and vanilla, but they pull it off really well. Nice and smooth

Bushmills is trash

>>11367136
that's actually the opposite of what you said you extra big brainlet

>>11365596
>>11365602
I like both of these but I agree that they do not deliver what the pricetag implies.
I'd have them a lot if they were $20 a bottle.

>>11367253
>..and it goes into an argument
Seriously, how autistic are you?

>>11367242
Bushmills, is what it is.
What did you expect.
It is a nice, smooth blend.
Black Bush is much more flavour, but it is not a single malt.
It most certainly isn't trash.

>>11367319
It's the Bushmills, little fool (little fool, little fool)
What you see is what you get (what you get, what you get)
What the hell did you expect?
Four bourbon roses
Wet puppy noses

>>11365596

Glenlivet 12 used to be really good and cheap but I guess they couldn't keep up with demand so now they offer this no age statement swill as their budget offering.

Why the hell is this 80 bucks a bottle? I got it as a gift and was really underwhelmed by it

>>11365596
I wholeheartedly agree

I recommend not to buy Chivas Regal 12, the first time I've tried it I wondered whether they served me the wrong thing, it was worse than lidl's mid level €8.5/bottle scotch

I want to get my American father in law a good bottle of whisky for Christmas, I live in Scotland but don't drink it so have no idea what's good and what isn't. What would you recommend? Price isn't that much of a factor, just as long as it isn't obscenely expensive.

I drink to get drunk, not for the taste. It's not a classy hobby to be an alcohol snob, it's just as trashy as smoking cigars. Just admit you like to get fucked up.

>>11365596
We bought this for my brother for his bachelor party and it was honestly too nice to enjoy. The flavor is extremely light, super smooth, no unwanted lingering flavors. It's very nice, but it almost has no character because it's so balanced, but I am biased towards cask strength whiskies.

>>11368135
>I drink to get drunk, not for the taste.
sounds like you're the one with the problem lmao
what's wrong with drinking something delicious that also makes you a bit tipsy? food is ultimately just for sustenance too, yet you wouldn't criticise someone for wanting tasty food

>>11368288

I recommend platinum label if you can find it, smooth but more flavor towards smoke.

Is this good? I've never tried whiskey and this is available in my store in a small bottle at at the lower price range, so it's not a huge commitment.

how's macallan 12 faggots

>>11369351
Yes it's considered good. It's a buddy of mine's favorite. I haven't had it.

>>11365596
I remember buying a 60 dollar single malt to dip a toe into whiskies besides black label and it just tasted like charcoal because of the cask.

>>11369351
Pretty good stuff.
Might be a bit much for someone who isn't used to whisky, though. I like it and drink it once in a while but I'm not sure it's what I'd recommend to a newbie. That goes for something like Laphroaig as well.

>>11369530

Im gonna try Highland Park now.

>>11366422
Math and Chem double major here. You can use molecular sieves. Distillation can only take you to 95% before an azeotrope is formed. Sieves can take you to anhydrous Ethanol.

>>11369539
I live in a smaller town and the selection isn't that great, and I don't wanna buy large bottles in case I hate it. Talisker is the only 20cl on they have, and it's cheaper than the 50cl bottles.

The other potential and in stock ones are
Peter Dawson Special 35cl
Bell's Original 35cl
Fireball 50cl
The Famous Grouse 50cl
Jameson 50cl

Any good ones there? Jameson and Fireball are only ones I've heard of, and I know Fireball isn't a "real" whiskey. The rest are too expensive and big to justify buying for now.

>>11369588
Jameson looks like the only palatable one

Bushmill Red Bush is awful. It tastes like a bourbon that's confused on whether or not it wants to be a bourbon. 3/10

>>11366422
just buy some more ethanol and pour it in

>>11369588
You must be Scandinavian, norsk maybe? Anyway, Talisker 10 is the best out of the ones you mentioned by a large margin. Peter Dawson is a cheap peaty blend, dont bother with fireball, Jameson is all right and I'm not familiar with famous grouse and bells other than them being cheap blends as well.

>>11369780
Haha yes, har du memorisert utvalget på polet eller?

I'm probably going for the Talisker. Even if it's rough for a beginner it's a small bottle so I'll just finish it and see if I end up liking it.

ITT: cucks who know nothing about whiskey

>>11369819

>>11369802
Ikke bare det, but Peter Dawson is more or less a scandic exclusive. Talisker 10 is a good choice but it's expensive to get drunk on. You should try one of the blends for that purpose and for comparison.

>>11369351
Yes it's nice. Touch of smoke, pepper, sea-salt.

teacher's was put forward as a decent budget blend with a "good malt backbone". It was supposed to have the highest malt-whisky % of any of the affordable blends (bells, famous grouse, whyte&mackye etc).

it was total shite. I bought 2 bottles 3 years apart and its total shite. Didn't even taste particularly like whisky.

I've drank lots of whisky and bourbon over the years, some of it not great some of it fantastic.....teacher's is the only one that i've found nearly undrinkable.
Apparently it was better in the olden days.

>>11369886
Ah, that's why I couldn't find shit about it on the internet. I'm not really looking for something to get drunk on, I'm not a big drinker so I just want something I can occasionally enjoy on a Saturday evening. I just need to have something other than milk and coffee in the house.
Also I'm moving to a house in the mountains with a fireplace soon so I need to complete the aesthetic.

>worst single malt I ever bought.

Bought it because it was dirt cheap at the supermarket. smelt like damp sheep. yuck.
Still drank it because im not a fairy

>>11369964
Mmm. Did you sip it while jacking off thinking about rubbing your cock on a cute sheep boy? Very nice.

>>11369971
t. aberdonian

>>11365596
Pappy van winkle 10 year old was bad when I had it this past summer. Had to fight go finish the glass my friend bought me out of politeness. I usually go for Irish whisky or domestic ryes. Not a big fan of corn mash and it seems the older and more expensive the bourbon the less I like it.

>>11369351
can't recommend it to a newbie, it's good but too salty for my taste and I think that would overshadow a good portion of the rest if you aren't used to whisky, or if you aren't used to (decent) alcohol at least enough not to feel the alcohol burn in your throat
if you like salty though it's worth every penny imo

>>11369351
if you're unsure you can likely go to any bar and get a glass of it for a fraction of the price of the bottle, talisker is a common whisky

>>11370170
you had to fight to finish an ounce of liquor?
you should have just mixed it with your Soylent and downed it (fgt)

>>11370338
It wasn't a shot you mong. If I would have done a shot it would be a dead give away I didn't enjoy it.

>>11367978
Because Americans are stupid and will buy any bourbon that sounds old and refined because they're predisposed to fall for bad marketing.
>>11368288
Ive tried 300+ whiskies and many blends and I can safely say that JW Blue Label is the most overpriced sub-$1000 whisky in the world bar none. It tastes no better then a $50 blend and the grain is bitter and burnt like cheap crap you'd get from Girvan. Stupid boomers keeping the JW brand alive are such fags.
>>11369998
wew
>>11370170
>Pappy van winkle 10 year old
Old Rip isn't a Pappy idiot. The only Pappies are the 15, 20 and 23 year old. Even then Old Rip is generally better then Pappies except for the 15.

>>11365596
I got a bottle of that for a gift last Christmas and it wasn't bad, just tasted like nothing desu.

I feel bad about not being able to drink laphroaig, I like other islay whiskies but I can't get on with laphroaig.

the rest are trash

>"The Snow Grouse is the first Scotch whisky that is perfectly at home in severely cold conditions and is designed to be served seriously chilled straight from the freezer."

because it tastes fucking shit-cunt rubbish.
If you drink it at room temperature it tastes like a glass of budget vodka that some radge has dipped his bellend in. rank

>>11369964
I like sheep.

>>11366819
Hendricks is acquired taste
Love the herbals in it and the nice juniper
But I concur that Boodles is superior
>>11367169
Buffalo trace
>>11367207
MS is quite bland for me,better for mixing due to its blandness
>>11367978
Because bourbon rarely needed to be aged like scotch due to the nature of its maturation and the climate
Some like whistlepig are really good but is overpriced
>>11368119
Lagavulin is an easy nice peaty dram
>>11369389
Uninspired and a bit harsh with some notes

>>11369351
I have found talisker a bit inconsistent.

Relatedly, highland Park 12 can be hit or miss. But when it hits, it hits good, so I still get it sometimes.

>>11365596
>e. I thought, hey lets try a single malt, start easy, what could go wrong?

You bought a single malt with no age statement. ya dun goofed.

Don't buy scotch without age statements.

>>11371540
Can confirm, bought that exact bottle at a duty free shop coming back from Canada. Apparently that's one of the few places they sell it to hook suckers like me.

>>11365596
Relentlessly shilled by some whiskey reviewers who pretended it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Hits like moonshine and burns, burns, burns. Can't even drink it straight. Ended up basically flushing $40 down the toilet by drinking it with coke, which I could've done with Dewar's.

>>11371575
just get a johnie walker green if you want a sipping blended

WILD TURKEY

>>11371684
gtfo

>>11371704
wait i missread the OP because
surprise
im what, class? that's right. drunk.

>>11365596
So true. I don't drink whisky enough to know the market but have a nice enough palette to know when I've been had. Bought a bottle of this and it was not good at all.

>>11369955
Teachers Highland cream is bad? Damn, that was going to be my next bottle. I have heard people praise it as a good, cheap blended with peat. Is it false, Anon? Should I not buy it?

>>11371684
I tried it because it was on sale a month or two ago. It's glorified fireball, you can't taste anything besides cinnamon flavoring.

Sounds like you're full of shit, op. Real people can describe what's bad instead of just saying "it bad". I'm going to assume your lack of a description is due to the ignorance of your palette.

>>11372699
>>11366558

While it may "sound" like that to you, its painfully clear youre the one full of shit since you didnt even bother to read the thread.

>Screenshot
>Chrome

No, anon, im the one who is repulsed.

>>11366404
agreeing with the general sentiment, but the 18 years old is actually pretty nice

too expensive tho

absolutely worthless

>>11367242
Fenian bastard

>>11372777

Being the op, i feel i should point out, as trash as they are, i prefer them with ice over the Glenlivet that i posted above.

Man this one's real awful everyone should stop demanding it faster than they can supply it...

>>11373409

Goddamnit, anon, i almost bought this shit just now, where were you?!
Wait. Are you saying its good?

alcohol is a social lubricant, and I need it

>>11373449
I'm saying it used to be my go to until the price skyrocketed

>>11373557
>I'm saying it used to be my go to until the price skyrocketed


Godamnit, anon, where were you?

>>11365596
You should Watch out for Black Velvet, really crappy whiskey. Had problems with my vision a day afterwards. Don't have good experience with Canadian Whiskey at all.

>>11370622
hey dubs of faggetree
how big was your big glass of bourbon?
Van Winkle 10 is probably at least $100 anywhere for a 'glass' of it which is a single serving aka a 'shot' to plebs like you and top shelf pours like that are generally measured

>>11365602
I quite like the Balvenie 12 DW for a cheaper single malt (~40)

>>11369389
VERY sweet. Almost reminds me of a liqueur

>>11372512
wtf are you going on about?

>>11365596
Johnnie Walker Red

I bought it for mixing, but still its foul taste shone through the ginger ale. Even Teachers tastes better mixed. Learnt my lesson and now I buy the black label for mixing.

>>11371575
I've heard its meant for cocktails but that just sounds like bull shit

>>11365596

didn't you guys get banned

>>11376713
Black label can be consumed straight, but it's just really boring.

>>11369955
>ywn sit in manx bothey sipping with ralfy

This was $40 dollars at my local store whereas Laphroaig is $45 and Ardbeg is $50. For $40 this is not at all worth it. Tastes like Dewar's but much more thick, almost like a honey texture. Way too sweet for me, with nothing else to offer. Not worth $40, I would maybe spend $30 on it, but at that point i might just save $5 and go for Dewar's whitelabel

It also have e150. You've been warned

>>11369971
>>11369998
thanks for the laughs

>>11369389
sweet but with a very noticeable rough wood note as well

Friendly but with more if you look for it

What makes a bad whisk(e)y?

>>11377833
i'm not sure if i can adequately describe it, but for me there's this unpleasant bite in the fumes as it's going down that kinda make me gag
Jim Beam is a borderline example here. sometimes i can take, sometimes i can't.
if it's too harsh i'll just mix it. soda water can be a good disguise, but some kind of cola, generally Coke is better at masking harsh flavors

>>11377833

What the other anon here >>11378044 said is pretty much it. There are pretty strong whiskeys but an overpowering alcohol fume flavor is unacceptable. Mostly for me, its a lack of balance, there are different profiles for whiskeys and they are all good, fruity, earthy, smokey, etc. Its all about subjective taste, but youre looking for something rich and balanced in whatever corner you chose. That can be very many combos. Woodsy/fruity, salty/smokey, sweet/earthy, whatever. Something smooth and balanced will always be welcome even if youre not in your particular comfort zone, you appreciate the thought and care thats clear from the experience. If i mix something for being too harsh, i often go with something that has lime or ginger, particularly with burbons. Most bad scotches i can just have with ice.

>>11374374
Black Velvet a SHIT
>>11373409
Talisker 10 tastes like vomit, literally. I have no problem with peated whiskies, in fact they are my favourites. For some fucking reason Talisker 10 tasted unbearably bad.

I also haven't had any sherried whisky that has beat the Naked Grouse. A 30 eurodollar bottle of blend whips bottles over twice the price. I don't know what black magics the makers practice, but I know this: it's fucking delicious.

>>11369351
I was going to post this bottle for this thread. Easily one of my least favorites.

>>11374374
>>11378971

So Black Velvet and Talisker 10 are good, got it.

>>11378971
>Talisker 10 tastes like vomit, literally

I'll keep it in my cabinet for when I have a bulimic girl over

>>11369351

I've never had the 10, but the Distiller's Edition is fantastic.

>>11376713

Red Label by far the worst drink I have ever tasted.
After doing a search for reviews to see if it was bad or I just hated, I found a review where the person conducting it put literal trash on the table to compare.

>>11365596

Auchentoshan 12 is great, but I have to give a no to their American oak. It fails as both scotch and bourbon, and it basically tastes like bubblegum and knives. Sharpest whisky I've ever had.

has anyone tried this yet? what's in the bottle, black or red?

>>11379956

If its red thats pure evil.

>>11365602
Balvenie gang
Rum cask is goat

>>11376713
My granddad used to love this stuff, he would fill a Collins glass about a quarter of the way up then add some ginger beer he then would taste it and usually add some more whiskey

>>11380691
back in the day red label was decent

now it's still. I still remember how pissed I was when a well-meaning friend of a friend bought me a drink at a function, and knowing I like all sorts of whisky, asked for scotch. of course he asked the barkeep for non-specific scotch, so out comes fucking red label...

didn't want to be a dick so I drank that fucking garbage, and what a bro for buying me a drink in spite of not knowing me that well, but fuck red label...

>>11380747
I still keep it around kind of in his memory and I do drink it from time to time, its bad but it reminds me of him and no matter how bad it is it cant be as bad as some of the other rotgut booze I had as a teen. Where I live every one drinks from about 15 and at that time I used to buy johnny walker off an friend to drink and I didn't like it back then but I though that since my granddad drank it it must be good.

>>11371112
I don't get the pic....Is that supposed to be trash whisky's, orr?

>>11372777
ima have to stop you right there with that 18 year. Shits one of the smoothest whiskeys i've ever tried.

>>11381110
Yes, a large collection of cheap blended skotch... and Laphroaig 10. You'd think more people would fall for the bait by now.


>>11378971
Naked Grouse, eh? I hope you're not pulling my leg, Anon. I'm buying a new bottle this weekend and am considering this now. Was going to get Teachers but after reading statements on here I am not sure anymore.

>>11381993
To each his own, I suppose. The Naked Grouse is great in my opinion, but it lacks the robustness of the whiskies I like the most. It's surprisingly smooth and sweet, wine gummy, maybe hints of cocoa and oak at the end. I googled and it says that it's a mix of Macallan and Highland Park, both of which are reputable whiskymakers. But as I said earlier, it's only about 30€ around here, which is pretty damn cheap when it comes to whiskies. So, even if you don't like it you won't have lost much. Atleast you'd learn whether you like sherried whiskies or not.

>>11365596
I had to force myself to finish Glenmorangie 10 yo, I just didn't find it good to sip on or mix

>>11382318

Ok, so Glenmorangie 10 is also good stuff, good to know.

Actually noticed reviews online saying how much better it is compared to Glenlivet.

>>11371575
Compass Box is better for vatted malts. Try No Name and Flaming Heart if you get a chance.
>>11371684
Wild Turkey is literally one of the only good budget producers.
>>11378971
>I also haven't had any sherried whisky that has beat the Naked Grouse
Literally any sherried dram above 45% ABV is better then Naked Grouse and I don't even mind Naked Grouse as an inexpensive table whisky.
>>11379956
Its apparently better the Red but its still trash.
>>11382494
What garbage reviewers do you read? Both of them are crap because they're watery tarts. At least Glenlivet makes cask strength whisky while Glenmorangie does nothing above 46%.

>>11365596
Most construction workers I know drink this shit.
It's pretty bad. But then again, it's construction workers, and I'm pretty sure they only buy this shit because it's $15 a handle.
They also have a caramel version that drowns it in enough sugar for it to be vaguely palatable.

for me, its rich n rare, the best plastic bottle whiskey

More than a few people told me this was peak Canadian whisky. It's not horrible, but not great either, more for cocktails than drinking neat. Incredibly overrated.

>>11367207

The bottle of MS I got tasted like laundry

>>11382918

For $15 you cant ask for much. For $15 i might try it, worst case i mix it with ginger beer.

>>11383109

Ive had this, someone gave it to me as a gift, like a show of gratitude.. I agree its not great at all. I drank it with ice. I wouldnt buy it for myself but i know of someone who does and drinks it tequila shot style after i had him try it. I obviously gave him the bottle, nothing redeems a bad buy better than a happy regifting. It was hyped to me as well when gifted the first time. I dont have experience with canadian whiskey.

>>11369956
> I need to complete the aesthetic

Sounds like Talisker is the right move for you

>>11383363
>>11383109
Crown is not for drinking neat, it's for mixing, what retard buys crown to sip on, I mix it with sprite/coke at my camp and eggnog during winter

If you're going to sip canadian whiskey straight or on the rocks, you have to be spending atleast $35+ on it, bourbon is about $25+

>>11383109
Lot40 is an excellent Canadian whisky that gets nowhere near the credit it deserves. at 35$USD I recommend you give it a go.

Pendleton 1918 is decent too.

crown Royal is Canada's answer to Johnnie walker, nothing but marketing

>>11365596
Dalmore 64 Trinitas tastes like sewer water mixed with paint thinner. Don't waste your money on this shit.

>>11383497
>64 years

>>11369351
>Not the Dark Storm edition

>>11367207
>Monkey Shoulder
Cheap piss that bars/clubs serve to try and look upmarket when they don't have a proper drinks selection
Its unironically Glenfiddich/Jack Daniels tier

>>11366664
It's the meh of wisky , but extreme to call for blood but ya if someone says it's good has not had even above average wisky. So fuck jack off daniels

I got some cheap grocery store whiskey the other day.
Tasted like gasoline but it did the trick.

>>11383691
Don't you be shitting on Glenfiddich, now.

>>11367207
>>11383691
Pretty sure Monkey Shoulder is marketed as a cocktail ingredient, and I'm sure it's fine for that purpose.

>>11369552

This was good.

>>11367207
>mfw I can't find this

>>11387247

Dude. Look harder, seriously, its pretty well distributed.

t. Guy in a caribbean island that can find this in his grocery store's liquor section

>>11387247
I can find this in rural michigan i'm confident you can figure this out

>>11370973
what would you recommend over blue label? I actually liked it quite a bit

>>11387704

Not that anon, but i prefer platinum label over blue label. If you can find it.

>>11371112
Thanks, their it is fucking Bell's. Just nasty, tastes like your uncle Gregory's home made whiskey

All whiskys taste the same to me.

>>11387966

Impossible. Maybe all cheap whiskey.

>>11387993
Rum tastes better.

>>11387966
Peaty single malt scotch definitely taste different from non-peaty single malt scotch that taste different from blended scotch that taste different from Irish blended whiskey that taste different from bourbon.
But I also agree that craft beer has more obvious variety than whiskey in general.

>>11377833
A good whisky is one that is able to hide the alcohol flavor well, a bad whisky would be vice versa. Alcohol is toxic and humans are genetically predisposed to hate its taste but people drink it anyway because it makes them feel good. A perfect whisky would have zero alcohol flavor.

>>11371112
laphroaig tastes like a bonfire forced his burning wooden cock down your throat. not a fan.

Dickels Barrel Select is completely unremarkable with an off putting cask harshness that just is so inferior to other bourbons at its price point.

>>11388773

Laphroaig has a website dedicated to sentences like that that they use for advertising.

>>11388825
link?

>>11388545
Seeing how many people drink vodka puts pay to any notions of veracity in your claim.

PSA from your friends at /ck/....

>>11365596
Every single Scotch that has been aged in Sherry casks tasted disgusting to me. I've learned to just avoid them. I'm not even an Islay fag, I like sweeter ones when they have vanilla, honey and toffee notes but miss me with that fucking grape shit. It's so overpowering and I just hate the taste, it might as well be bourbon, it's so bad.

On the same level as Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. Absolute gutter trash.

>>11388975
Vodka is cheap, it doesn't bite much and it doesn't have that revolting medicinal taste that cheap whiskey has.

>>11389182

Agreed. Well, as bad as it is, i feel JD is still worse. That goes for Gentleman Jack and JD Honey. All worse than Makers Mark which isnt good.

>>11389251
Yeah, it's nigh impossible to get worse than Jacks. That was the disappointment talking because Maker's Mark actually gets recommended by some people.

>>11389263

It does...i dont know why though.

>>11389166

I dont want to agree with you because i dont feel ive tried enough whiskey, but im starting to, and i might be turning into an islayfag as well.

But he always there for you.

Overrated trash.

Poorfag college student, my only exposure to whiskey so far has been along the lines of Black velvet and Evan Williams, what are the absolute worst bottom shelf brands? The first bottle I ever bought myself was Old Crow and I kinda liked it in a wood flavored gasoline way

>>11367242
Fuck off. It's about the best cheap blend whiskey you can get.

>>11389182
I've never had that, but Jim Beam and Jack Daniels is good.

>>11389899
>I've never had that, but Jim Beam and Jack Daniels is good.

>>11389919
What's wrong?

>>11390124

Those are not good whiskeys, their only appeal is that theyre cheap.

Does anyone in this thread actually like whiskey? Almost every post in this thread is shitting on it.

>>11390354

Gee i wonder what the thread is about.
Not a shill thread, anon, were warning each other (in some cases trolling) about what not to buy. If you pay attention youll see both straightforward recommendations and implied ones.

>>11389182
Had it at my in-laws. I was not impressed, but they think I'm a snob for not liking Jack and got that thinking it was higher end.

>>11389655
you know I just bought a bottle of this and while I wouldn't call it trash, it isn't all that impressive either. I read that it was basically higher end buffalo trace, but standard bt hits those same notes for half the price

Whiskey is like wine the more you spend the better it gets. Except for Johnny walker blue label. That stuff is garbage.

>>11389685
johnny walker Red label and teachers come to mind, though teachers isn't that bad if you want to mix it, red label is absolute shit

>>11391407

This is true

What are the best cheaper brands of whiskey? Usually a beer drinker but I like whiskey once in a while and am on a tight budget. Preferably under $30 and also preferably not from a plastic bottle

>>11389182
that was the first whisky i brought. fucking hated it but i got no comparison so i never bought anymore. back to vodka now

>>11391738
vat69

>>11391738

Other than some 200ml and 50ml bottles, are there really any that actually come in a plastic bottle?

I mostly drink rum (kraken). What's a good, inexpensive bourbon, and a whisky I might like?

Thanks friends

>>11391886
elijah craig

its roughly the same price as monkey shoulder where I live and tastes pretty similar to kraken actually

>>11387704
For blends I’d go with Black Bottle or Compass Box Spice Tree. Weymss also makes good blends if you’re in the UK.

>aldi apparently sells liquor
>apparently has a gold medal winning Scotch
>live in Florida
>FL state law says you can't sell liquor in a grocery store
>big grocery stores just out a seperate space in the strip mall they're in and make it a liquor store
>Aldi can't do this
>ergo Aldi doesn't sell liquor in Florida

fuck my life
they have really cheap Amaretto too, apparently. That's what really burns me up, Disaronno is fantastic but fuck me if it's not going to rape my wallet in the long run

>>11391953

How much do you pay for Disaronno? Its like $20 where i live.
No way to mail order Aldi shit? (Never even seen one much less been in one)

>>11365596
Fuck you OP. Here's a good recommendation. Buchanan blended whisky it used to be like 25 bucks but people caught on how good it is and now its like 40 a bottle. Fuck I should have bought like 4 back in the day.

>>11392018

Fuck you, anon, the world isnt for you alone.

>>11383109
I thought people only buy Crown Royal for the bags.

>>11391900
Is there anywhere I could get Black Bottle pre-2013 relaunch? When it was just an islay blend?

Or would this break my wallet?

>>11390331
What would be some good quality whisky at a cheap price?

>>11366404
Looks like a Listerine bottle. Also with a name like Jura, sounds like Indian whisky.

>>11367052
It's a Colorado thing. The only good spirit I've had from Colorado is Woody Creek Vodka. It's superb -- probably the best vodka I've had. Pairs well straight with sprats or roe and crackers.

>>11391886
Four Roses Single Barrel
McKenna Bottle in Bond
Evan Williams Single Barrel

>>11367978
>~premium~ literal hillbilly moonshine liqueur
lol

>>11382318
Same. Had an off flavor to me, almost like jack daniels taste

Tried this (room temp), although I don't usually drink scotch, I haven't detected any off or offensive flavors. Smokey and smooth.

>>11392277
Stranahan’s does it too, but I really enjoy them.

>>11392398
boring and cheap, drinkable not that offensive

>>11392449
>cheap
Why is that an issue?

WHERE THE FUCK IS AL/ck/ THESE DAYS

Thoughts on Wild Turkey Rare Breed?

>>11391953
>aldi's liquor
if it's anything like aldi's liquor in italy, it's shit, really shit
everyone and their aunt sell "award winning" and "gold medal winning" liquor, it means very little
be very ware

Does the glass really matter? I can't find any Glencairns here but I'm sure I can find a tumbler.

>>11392862
alcoholism is not okay friendo

>>11365596
When I was at a festival in Budapest I got whiskey flavoured vodka because it was at the bottom of the bottom shelf literal Hungarian bums where confused about what the duck that crap was and why any store would sell it

>>11392488
Maybe he means it tastes cheap? Where I live that whisky isn't cheap

>>11392398

Its like salty/briney and just a tad smoky. Like the other anon said, its not amazing, its inoffensive.

>>11389655
>$25

You take that back!

>>11365596
all leaf wiskies are junk

dont fucking buy this. i thought i was getting a bargain for $80, since it was an XO.

shit's like watered down floral water. biggest waste of 80 bucks

>>11367242
bushmills is for protestants

>>11368119
pappy van winkle

>>11393170

How does whiskey flavored vodka even work?

>>11391953
Always beware of all alcohol that win 'medals'. They're all bottom of the barrel swill.

>>11393880

>bad XO

Shit thats scary, thats a lot of money to waste.

>>11388773
>laphroaig

It's an acquired taste. Once you do acquire it, it's hard to beat.

So, uh, sorry to show my obvious newfag-ness.
I just turned 21 about a month ago, and haven't really drank any thing yet, but I just bought some Jim Beam so I could cook some bourbon chicken tonight.
Naturally, I poured myself a little to try. While I obviously don't have anything to compare it to, I thought the flavor was quite pleasant, and very smooth, but wow the aftertaste was bad. It was very acrid and not very pleasant.
Is that just the alcohol, or does Jim Beam just taste like that?

>>11394838

Jim Bean just tastes like that. Next time mix it with something.

>>11394886
Ah, ok. So like a Moscow Mule, or an Old Fashioned? Egg nog here in about a month?

The internet lead me to believe that Jim Beam was not a bad bourbon, just not a great one.
Doesn't matter too much, I'll just keep using it as a cooking bourbon.

>>11394838
Learn to drink, homo. Beam is harmless. Try Kentucky Gentleman if you want to experience something challenging.

Did not like this, too bland, watery. Many better alternatives at the price.

>>11394926
The fuck do you think I'm trying to do?
I'm new to this and learning.

>>11394591
i mean its not undrinkable, just very diluted and lacks complexity you would expect from an expensive bottle.

>>11394190
I don't know I just know boys horrible

>>11383109
Bro just buy Canadian Club

>>11394935

Is bourbon even good? I was sold on trying it because its supposed to be on average a cheaper alternative to scotch, but i cant find a cheap good one.

>>11396497
I haven't had many bourbons, but I've definitely had some good ones. Might be just as good as scotch and potentially better value if you're from the States.

What do you guys think of "peaty" whiskey? A friend of mine just had me try it. I can't tell if I hate it or love it.

>>11396539

Its an acquired taste. Earthiness or smoke cant be all there is to it though.

>drinking a Scottish lads piss in a bottle
ISHYGDDT

>>11396707

Better than it be american piss?

>>11371317
>>11383140
>>11383691
>>11385336
I personally enjoy it and it's 4,5/5 in the Whiskey Exchange, with close to four hundred reviews. It's pretty damn good for the price and even "professionals" have reviewed it as a good whiskey.
Of course listen to your mouth, and if you don't like it, then simply you dont.

>>11377833
When you taste for example Johnnie Walker's Red Label and Bowmore 12, you can really taste the difference. You notice the similar flavours (vanilla, flowers, dried fruit) but the first one is way too sweet, unbalanced and alcohol sticks out. Like fake Nike's, you know it's cheap

>>11396497
Bourbon is great but I'd say as a whole it's a lot sweeter than scotch. It's also an industry that is currently seeing growth so a lot of the "higher end" stuff is hit or miss and only has the price point because of availability. Try your basics: Four Roses, Maker's Mark, Buffalo Trace and then move up from there if you want to get into it. Also if you're a huge scotch fan I suggest trying some ryes as they are both relatively harsh drinks.

>>11396895

What's wrong with Bowmore 12?
I've been working my way through all the islay distilleries and Bowmore is one of the last ones.

>>11365596
I think this stuff is not necessarily bad, but overrated.
I've seen people use this stuff as a substitute for cointreau. I've tried doing it myself and it messes up the sugar/acidity/alcohol balance when using the standard recipes because it's much drier, without actually making the cocktail taste better.

>>11397024
Read my post again

>>11397569

Ah, you meant both Bowmore and Red Label. I thought you just meant Red Label when you said "First one"

>>11367207
Do they age this in wine barrels? because that's the aftertaste i get and i like it

>>11392488
I didn't mean it as an issue, one of my favourite vodka's is cheap. It doesn't taste like anything special as I said but i'd rather spend more and actually enjoy my drink, or buy my cheap vodka to get drunk.
>>11393262
How much does it cost for you?

>>11369553
can also break the azeotrope with another solvent like hexanes but ain't no distillery gonna do that

alcoholism out of ten
would recommend to people I hate.

>>11389655
i tried a bottle and it was like the johnnie walker red of bourbon

I'm getting confused by this thread.
Is it a haven for people with shit taste who just can't into whiskey, or are you guys being sarcastic?

>>11399115
You don't like High West or tincup?

>>11399225
I love high west.
tincup's pretty alright.

but this is an anti-recommendation thread, and whiskey has cost me thousands of dollars.
love of it is a curse.

>>11399115

Anon, I've been waiting for you.
Tell me what you hate to drink.

>>11399208

Little bit from column A, little bit from column B and then you'll still fall short.

>>11399115
..that's just the alcohol you don't like?

>>11399371
I understand.
I hate Longmorn 16.

>>11396497
Bourbon and scotch are completely different flavor profiles so you might as well say rum is a cheap alternative to, I dunno, cognac. Also the bourbon market is generally fucking ludicrous right now, it's basically the new craft beer.
That said, Wild Turkey 101 is cheap and good.
And I'll second >>11396970, you should check out some ryes. High West Double Rye is a steal.

>>11394935
I think this is great personally. But ever since I discovered Dewar's I see no reason to ever buy any other mixing whisky ever again.

>>11365596
reminder that scotch whiskey is NPC garbage. get an Irish whiskey and stop being a fucking soyboy

>>11399537
Speaking of. As a Dewar's fan I was getting ready to pick this up as my next dram, either this or Glen Scotia 15. Thoughts?

>>11399540
reminder there are like, 3 good irish whiskeys amongst a sea of "muh auld soil" sentimental mediocrity

>>11394943
Yeah most alcoholic drinks have a disgusting aftertaste. The thing is that once youve been drinking a lot it starts to taste good because your brain associates it with dopamine and all that. Same thing as coffee and beer etc. Im pretty much in the same boat ive been getting drunk for years but i have no palette and think all alcohol is completley disgusting.

>>11399596
Hello, Reddit!

>>11399590
personally, I moved from Dewar's 12 to Glenfiddich 15.
it's not particularly special or anything, but it's a big step up and serves as a great introduction to single malts

>>11399673
whats dewars 12 like? an aged blend seems to be a pretty small market segment. I love dewars white label but i dont sip it, i mix it

>>11372777
This stuff is the best, especially when you pour it down the drain and never let it touch your mouth again.

>>11399690
I don't really remember too well, haven't had it in 3 years, but it was richer and generally more enjoyable than white label. Perfectly good for drinking neat.
I'd say it compares favorably to some weaker single malts, like Loch Lomond or Glenmorangie's "original"

>>11392906
Good
Pricey

>>11399115
there's actually 3 gins, a spiced rum, and a tequila hidden in there.
can you spot them?

>>11389643
Yeah, tried this because it was cheap and some people on /ck/ said it was good. Wasn't impressed, would rather pay the extra couple bucks for Jack D's.

>>11399115
>Two James

My nigga

Just done with my Laphroaig
always a reliable dram for 33 bucks, neighbor also quite likes it

>>11397649
Yeah, I meant just Red Label...? That it has similar notes to Bowmore, but you can taste the difference between the cheap (Red Label) and "expensive" (Bowmore)

>>11399540
t. James Smith, proud Irish American

>>11399540

Hey, anon. I do enjoy irish whiskey too, still have bottles of this and i had some last night. Ill try what you posted.

>>11399895

Ive never even seen one where i live.

>>11366759
True, except for Glen Moray, that shit is surprisingly ok for it's price

>>11396834
>even "professionals" have reviewed it as a good whiskey.
Those professionals are paid reviewers, of course they’ll review Grant and Sons swill well if they get paid in free hotels, whisky and other shit.
>using twe reviews as a basis
https://whiskybase.com/search?q=Monkey+shoulder
Monkey Shoulder is a well below average blend. For comparison sake even Aberlour 12 and Speyburn 10 rate the same or above and those are the same price and actually single malt. The people who review on TWE are mostly corporate shills or lowest common denominator Britbongs.

>>11399115
Is that a Loch Lomond I spot back there?

Has anyone here tried this?

>>11399590
Glen Scotia 15 no brainer. DeWar’s distillery Bottlings are overpriced shit outside of Craigellachie 13 and Aultmore 12, even then you’re better off getting DeWars owned distillate through independent bottlings because their core range stuff is crap.

>>11401205
Monkey shoulder is nowhere near the same price as those single malts.

>>11392862
shit that belonged on /r9k/ from the start

>>11401208
Yes. Only the basic "Original" no age statement.
not very good, tastes a little bit off.
only good for mixing or using as an example of a bad NAS single malt

I've heard that Loch Lomond's higher end stuff is pretty good, though.

>>11401317

Monroy Shoulder is $40-50 aroubd where i live.

>>11401995
Yeah their cask strength stuff is nice, especially peated stuff.
They also own Glen Scotia who make nice Campbeltown malts.

>>11399870
So you've got shit taste in whiskey, got it.

>>11389051
>

>>11367242

>>11397048
Curacao is better for certain cocktails such as the Mai tai, but if a recipe states to use orange liquor stick to Cointreau or if you have some more money to spend then grand mariner

>>11367136
>it has blue packaging,therefore must be competing with whiskey far above its price range with similar colored labels.
I think we all know who the dummy is here

>>11404308

Seriously, that shit was ignorant. I just pretended i didnt see it.

.

Bump for good riddance

>>11365596
Die

>>11405801

Why?

>ask what a good mixer is
>"An ice cube :)"
Why are whiskey elitists so fucking insufferable

>>11406615
You got a good mixer recommendation here
>>11401208
>>11401995

Is tin cup worth the bottle?

>>11408682
only if it's on discount.
it's another MGP sourced whisky with a few additions. I had a bottle recently and while it was solid it wasn't anything to write home about either

>>11369955
My grandpa loves teachers but it tastes purely like peat to me.

>>11377833
No intensity of flavour
Alcohol as foremost flavour
Bitter / medicine aftertaste
Flavour disappears too quickly
Some people think a lack of complexity (too few distinct flavours) is bad. Too me it depends on those flavours. Wood + fruit/valilla = nice (Bulleit Bourbon, barrel aged Pinot Noir), Acidity + minerality (cheap tonic, Sauvignon Blanc) = bad.
And there's other things that are flat out individual preference / peeves. I hate sweet + viscous (honey whiskey).

...so

what buy?

>>11382318
Beat me to it. Glenmorangie is so well reputed too. But it was on a shelf accessible to all my drinking buddies along with Glenfiddich and Glen Grant and went unfinished. It even lasted longer than Label 5. Perhaps it's all of Glenmorangie's weird barrel finishes inflating the name. The price has gone up to 78AUD too.

>>11383681
I had regular storm. It was too young, but otherwise nice. A drinking buddy also said it's nice, but she also thought Ardbeg was too intense (disagree).
I'll probably grab a bottle when it's on sale.

>>11389182
>>11394935
>>11371317 (Buffalo Trace)
40% in Aus. Careful, Careful.
I still like Bulleit though.

>>11409824

Anon, this is a what not buy thread.

>>11372777
Agreed I bought a sample to try and it is terrible. Its hyped up like Crown Royal whiskey where I am from which btw is also shit

>>11369530
>>11369552
>>11387067
Based and blogpilled

>>11394904
I like whiskey sour. Old fashioned is a classic(sic.) and dont underestimate a good-old whiskey+coke.