/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11517591
Fuckin upsetting m8

It's true. Even Herold Mcgee says it works.

>>11517591
I did that before when I could only use one stove top element because it would take time between draining the pasta and putting it in the pan with the sauce and it would get sticky in the mean time. Don't do it anymore since it goes directly in the pan now.

>>11517591
More people eat at Olive Garden than at Ramsay's restaurants so why are we supposed to blindly follow his advice on how to cook Italian food?

You know what actually work? Stirring them every now and then.

Also, Ramsay is a fucking mong, even for a brit

https://youtu.be/9BVFrwQ1bEI

Why is his Youtube stuff so comfy?

Ramsay is a hack.

>>11517652
But we all know you cant touch the food during cooking.

Considering it requires boiling pasta once without oil and seeing it doesnt stick together it's a bit weird the habit of adding oil still exist.
Did they make different kinda pasta in the 90's from today or something?

burgah

>>11517591
and stops the sauce sticking to the pasta

>>11517607
It does work but it's unnecessary and will stop sauces from sticking to the pasta after. All you have to do is stir it a few times during the first few minutes of cooking and it won't stick.

That! Is delicious.

It stops the water from frothing you retards. That's the only reason your great great nonna did it. Retards like yourselves and gordon are just ignorant sheep.

>>11517591
apparently gordon knows shit about cooking himself lmao

>>11517607
it also helps keeping the sauce from sticking to the noodles. truly genius.

>>11518283
Turning the heat down a little bit also stops the water from frothing while still continuing to boil.

>put oil into water
It fucking swims on top you retarded piece of shit
It does not stick to dry pasta when putting it into the water
Fuck, this makes me so mad
when will this bullshit meme die?

long pasta needs to stand in the boiling water, poke a hole into the top, release and it will fan out in a nice radial motion
it is literally impossible for ends to stick together this way
for every other pasta it is just the motion of the water and stirring
fuck, why ware people so retarded

also, olive oil is way to heavy in taste and does not magically work with every sauce

>>11518325
>It fucking swims on top you retarded piece of shit
100% accurate

>all these people that think they know how to cook pasta better than a chef
Enjoy your mushy stuck together mess

For all you fucking retards saying oil won't let a sauce STICK to the pasta, that's what pasta with actual shapes is fucking for. Who buys spaghetti and angel, fettucini is better and gets more sauce on it.

>be younger me
>not use olive oil
>sometimes pasta would stick together
>be older me
>always use olive oil like nana
>pasta never sticks togeter

Imagine being so stupid that you don't use a basic cooking technique when cooking the most objectively easiest dish in the universe.

You are truly fucking stupid if you don't understand how olive oil works with pasta, why it goes into water, then are insisting on 4chan of all places that other people who don't use oil in their water are

>>11518376

>>11517591
brits cooking pasta

>>11518376
its like the head of Medusa

I used to add oil.
But now I don't since I just stirr it and it doest stick.

>pepper in spaghetti

Please fucking stop.

>>11517591
Probably washes his rice like a dipshit too.

>>11517591
>not just using a steamer basket so the pasta doesn't touch the hot pot

>>11519210
a small pinch really adds a lot

>>11517591
yeah i do this, works good

>>11519392
Know what works literally exactly as good? Not doing it.

>>11518376
>4chan
where do you think you are old men?

>>11519210
>boil pasta in water without oil
>cook it al dente
>add salt, pepper and olive oil
>tastes good enough to eat without sauce

>>11517591
He literally just makes shit up on the fly all the time, much of it contradictory.

boil water
add salt after water boils
add pasta
stir in the pasta
walla
no oil needed

>>11517591
I always put oil in my shitposts to keep them from sticking together

>>11521257
This. I remember an episode of Kitchen Nightmares where he ridiculed the size of a hamburger "How the fuck am I supposed to get my mouth around this?"
Then a few years later he shows how he makes the "perfect burger"... (pic related)

Jos
>>11521771
BURGAH
Also in the uk version of kitchen nightmares he feeds a vegetarian a pizza with some ham hidden in it, laughs at him and says that maybe he'll grow a beard now
Couple of years later he treats people who use chicken stock in veggie dishes like they are the worst scum on earth. Of course that shit shouldnt be done but Gordon is a bitch for acting like a saint when he has done the same shit himself

Oil in boiling pasta is the definitive pleb filter. If you need oil to prevent pasta from stcking you are a shit tier chef.

>>11517733
actually yes, nowadays even with shitty wheat we are able to produce semi-decent pasta which won't release too much starch while cooking
this starch thing was the main problem with pasta produced outside italy which tended to be kinda shitty

>>11517591
Does this man not stir his damn pasta? The mediocre cook that I am, I've never had sticking issues with salt water and pasta.

>>11521257
Of course he does. He does it for entertainment value. When it comes down to it he's an entertainer first and foremost and chef second.

>>11521257
In another video he also said that searing meat helps lock in the juices, when it's been proven that it's only for adding flavor. He's really good at what he does most of the time, but sometimes I wonder if he felt like he didn't have to keep trying to learn and improve because of how popular and successful he got.

>>11522081
That would explain the meme.

I mix my pasta with sauce in a sauté pan on medium to reduce, then I add a spoon of olive oil and mix. Finally, I'd turn off the stove or put it on low and mix in some spices and grated cheese.

>>11518309
>noodles

kys Amerimutt

He parrots multiple old wives' tales that have been proven to be untrue.

Oil doesn't help at all during cooking is actually detrimental if you're going to be saucing your pasta afterward because it coats the pasta as you're draining it, which prevents the sauce from adhering properly.

Also you don't need a lot of water to cook pasta either. In fact it's detrimental as well if you're going to be saucing your pasta properly, because you want the pasta water that you use to be as starchy as possible.

https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/02/the-right-way-to-sauce-pasta.html
https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/05/does-pasta-water-really-make-difference.html

>>11522501
One thing you might want to do is add some sauce into the pasta to stain it.
Then when you plate it and put sauce on top of it its meant to be better as the sauce is infused.

>>11522504
>One thing you might want to do is add some sauce into the pasta to stain it.
That's what happens when you use this method. Check out the second article I linked.

>>11522479
>>>/pol/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79_IsTV8X-c

how do i learn to cook like the guys here? my biggest problem is finding recipes

Gordon has far more authority when it comes to cooking than a bunch of parroting bandwagoners on a hobbyist cooking subforum. To think that you know more than a man that's dedicated his entire life to cooking delicious food is naive at best.

>>11517591
I trust ATK for advice more than I do Romron Gramsay.

>>11523250
I'm pretty sure a nice chunk of his life has been dedicated to his celebrity persona now

>>11522501
There's a LOT of people that wash raw meat off in their sink still just because Julia Child did it.
Surprise! Even people who know a lot can be wrong, or have something once thought to be correct proven wrong later.

>>11520712
Why didn't they keep /v/ and abolish /pony/? If there were a congressman that cared, I'd write a salty letter

>>11517607
Olive oil on strained pasta helps keep it from sticking together. Good if you want to hold until your sauce is ready or refrigerate.
Olive oil in a pot of boiling pasta is useless snake oil like most of Gordon Ramsey's advice.

>>11523306
>Olive oil on strained pasta helps keep it from sticking together. Good if you want to hold until your sauce is ready or refrigerate.
Better just to rinse it if you need to hold it, unless you're going to be putting an oil-based sauce on it

Why has /ck/ been shitting on Ramsay lately? I thought he was /ourguy/.

>>11523343
Probably just because of how popular he got and how people acted like he couldn't do anything wrong, so when he makes little fuckups people jump on it

>>11522555
>Food scientist
Fuck off

>>11523343
He was never mine. It was obvious to me from the start that he's a clown.

>>11523343
Nah /ck/ always hated the cokeaddict shitstain not as much as Oliver but still /ourguy/ is the King of Flavortown

>>11517591
Chicago-style thincrust is currently the most advanced and delicious form of pizza known to mankind.

>>11524604
>>11517591
Fuck wrong thread. I'm drunk go home.

>>11518376
>/ck/ : 60% female
I'm beginning to believe it

>>11522555
>my biggest problem is finding recipes
giallozafferano.it

>>11521925
>>11522121
retards

>>11518210
Who said I put sauce on my pasta?

>>11523250
i'm pretty sure an italian chef knows more about cooking spaghetti than gordon.

>>11517591
>tried watching Kitchen Nightmares US version
>literally the worst show I have ever seen, scripted to fucking hell and back
Disappointing because the UK version was actually very entertaining.

I like these meme threads.

>>11525727
>an italian chef
I'd say an average italian, period. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in Italy ever had an issue with pasta sticking together and I've never heard about adding oil to the water to solve this non-problem. If you're really concerned you just need to stir it once in a while, but as long as you don't overcook it, good pasta will never stick.

>>11517591
pan sizzling hot, olive oil in.

olive oil in pasta water does nothing, if your pasta is sticking together then you're using a shit brand.

Italian here. We do a lot of pasta and nobody put oil in water. I never heard of pasta sticking together

>>11517591
Wrong. Oil makes it impossible for the sauce to adhere to the noodle.

>>11523250
argumentum ad verecundiam
(also known as: argument from authority, ipse dixit)

Description: Insisting that a claim is true simply because a valid authority or expert on the issue said it was true, without any other supporting evidence offered. Also see the appeal to false authority.

Logical Form:
According to person 1, who is an expert on the issue of Y, Y is true.

Therefore, Y is true

>>11523270
Yeah, I wasn't shitting on Gordon by any means. He's still a great chef. There's also a lot of people who take the word of great chefs as gospel and ignore any evidence to the contrary.

>>11523250
Underage or retarded.

>>11522555
holy shit I JUST WATCHED THIS 30 MINUTESA GO

lorenzos pasta won for me

>>11518310
lmao no it doesn't

>>11528661
Yes it does. Higher heat makes it bubble more violently which makes more foam, you only need the water to be barely bubbling which will help prevent foaming because there just won't be as many bubbles forming and frothing up the starch.

>>11517591
>>11517607
>>11518355
>>11518376
Hey guys I have some tiger repelling rocks you might be interested in. If you act fast I'll throw in the charm that wards against volcano eruptions.

>your ancestors were the lucky few that bought snake oil and didn't die of stupidity

>>11523250
yes Gorden is god because hes on media

>>11529270
>world famous michelin star chef is somehow connected to underground olive oil producers and is making a killing shilling for oil in pasta water

The oil helps reduce surface tension and prvents frothing.

>how much olive oil did you put in the pasta?
>none, Chef!
>fucking hell

>>11529452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7SqSd3ZSBU

>>11529452
Olive oil has been shilled very hard the last 15 years.

Don't fall for the italian mafia olive oil cartel.

>>11529452
Can't tell if trolling or retarded/lacking comprehension skills.

>>11517591
I like it a bit sticky though.
Makes you wanna gorge down the noodles.

>>11529270
>claims to like science
>doesn't like the facts brought on by scientific method.