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>>11565606
I love fresh chile rellanos. I make pretty decent ones too.

“Real” Mexican food: Barbacoa, carnitas, ceviche, tamales, Chile relleno, enchiladas

Us taco shop food:California burrito, Texas burrito, chimichangas, carne Asada fries, steak quesadilla, hot carrots,

>>11565665
It's funny how people in California think carne asada fries are "real" Mexican food. Ironically New York has a higher ratio of real to fake Mexican food

I'm going to the Mexican food capital of the country (NYC) soon, any places I should try out?

>>11565670
I’m from San Diego CA and I don’t think anyone here really thinks that, but there are stupid people everywhere. I’ve never had Mexican from NYC although I’ve been there once.

There is a huge crossover bleed between Southern California Mexican cuisine and food actual Mexicans in Tijuana eat. People have this misconception that as soon as you step over the border the food is suddenly 100% authentic. I think the closer you get to the border the more “authentic” it becomes. The food in Mexico City is a lot different from the food in TJ. At least in my experience.

>>11565738
*less “authentic”

>>11565738
That makes sense. Food in Tijuana and DF are different but I still count Tijuana food as authentic Mexican because it's in Mexico. And a lot of people from other parts of Mexico live there.

>>11565738
I might have been exaggerating a little bit, but it seems common for transplants from California in NYC to think that NYC doesn't have real Mexican food just because they're too dumb to find it, or because they can't find their super Americanized Cal Mex dishes like carne asada fries. Usually it's more so the former, though.

>>11565748
I mean technically it is. This is why I don’t really care for the “authentic x cuisine” debate in particular.

>>11565752
I see. To be honest if(probably when) I leave California I’ll probably miss shitty taco shop burritos and fries more than anything.

>>11565606
columbian pussy

>>11565774
But we do have a lot of good tacos, tortas, tlacoyos, tlayudas, and various traditional Southern Mexican dishes (which we have less of a variety than we should with our huge Southern Mexican population, but that is improving).

>>11565623
Cheesy Gordita Crunch is the only food.

Does Mexican cuisine use a lot of vegetables or is it one of those cuisines that's mostly just meat and starch?

>>11565606
pipian verde
chiliques
chalupas
chile relleno
torta con milanesa, slachichas y queso
barbacoa
tacos de cabaza
quesadilla con flores de calabaza
tacos arabes
conchinita pibil
pozole
cocktel de camerones
ceviche

>>11565869
>tacos de cabaza
typo. should be cabeza. lengua is good, too

>>11565880
Need a host for your visa? I'm sure we could work something out.

>>11565798
I'm sure you guys do, but I'm looking to move out of a major metropolitan area. Not into a bigger one.

>>11565670
No one thinks that, troll

>>11565780

Tacos de barbacoa of course, made with sheep meat NOT beef.

Tacos al pastor with pineapple, like a true patrician

>>11566062
>Tacos de barbacoa of course, made with sheep meat NOT beef.
Trucked in from Capulhuac, and served with consomme.

>>11565606
It'd be easier to list the ones I don't like: menudo. That is all.

>>11566062
Is there such a thing as al pastor without pineapple?

>>11565738
>food that you literally buy in a city located in mexico from mexicans is not "authentic" mexican food
at some point you have to stop being such a hipster

>>11566399
Kek this. Newsflash Mexico and USA have a tremendous cultural exchange and its all "authentic". Gravy is authentic southern food and its just a tweak to French mother sauces. Authenticity arguments in food so often devolve into no true Scotsman fallacies its unreal.

Brown slop and tortilla, basically everything.

"California burrito fried like a chimichanga"

Had one last night, a friend ordered it and swore by it, it was great.

>>11566432
>Authenticity arguments in food so often devolve into no true Scotsman fallacies its unreal.
True, but there is a real issue behind it. When a cuisine becomes popular it the US it gets changed quite a bit to reflect American taste. We've seen it with Chinese, Italian, Mexican, Greek and Japanese food. When an American wants to distinguish between the American styles of these cuisines and the regional styles in their country of origin the word "authentic" gets tossed around. It's a poor word choice, as Southern CA Mexican is authentically its own thing, even though it has a lot of overlap with the regional Mexican food just over the border. It's still pretty different from the food you'd find in CDMX, Puebla or Oaxaca. Just like Italian American food is different from what you'd find in Naples or Sicily. "Authentic" is a poor word to describe this, but a lot of the time it's shorthand for "not what you get at Taco Bell or the Olive Garden", meaning not the Americanized version of this cuisine.

>>11566538
completely misinformed.
>>11566432
I agree for the most part, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. I've been to someone Americanized Mexican places that served food so far removed from actual Mexican food that i couldn't call it "authentic".

>>11566596
I feel like I need to use the word authentic to prevent people from using taco bell tier stuff as examples

>>11566609
Exactly. Even though it's kind of a meaningless word it's tedious to say something like "very much along the lines of a regional style you's find in (country X)". Which is what I think you mean.

>>11566062
Barbacoa is made from goat tho

>>11566399
But Mexican cuisine in the U.S. Is Americanized. They use a lot of cheddar cheese and cumin when those two ingredients are pretty much rarely ever used. Also Mexican restaurants only serve a handful of variations of certain dishes

>>11566609
taco bell IS mexican food. or are you telling me mexicans didn't invent tacos, nachos, burritos, pico de gallo?

>>11565606
I never really ate Mexican food, but the last few weeks I tried making tacos and quesadillas
Tasted nice, but could be improved
Thought about making some queso for corn chips next
Anyone want to share a recipe?

>>11566638
Goat is looked down on as poverty food in CDMX, and most of the time sheep are used. I was talking about this with a goat farmer down there a month or so ago. He has trouble selling goats for meat - he makes his money from the milk and milk products. Most of the barbacoa eaten in Mexico City comes from sheep raised in Hidalgo, that are then trucked down to Capulhuac where they are butchered, cooked and sold in the city on the weekend.

>>11566655
>taco bell IS mexican food.
It's a corporate American riff on Mexican food. It's informed by Americans' fantasies of what Mexican food is, and not any particular regional Mexican cuisine.

Chicken & Cheese Quesadillas

>>11565606
I was down in Mexico back in August and they had this everywhere. I thought it was wierd, didn't like it.
Enchiladas or chicken in pipian sauce was amazing, had some good moles, actually almost everything I had was delicious. Went for two weeks mostly to try food, visit ruins and museums and sample mezcal, was a great trip. Easily some of the best food I've ever had while travelling. 9/10would do again.

>>11565835
It seems heavy on the meat and corn, but they use a fair amount of carrot, onion, peppers, tomato, cabbage and squashes. Don't see a lot of leafy greens except cilantro.

>>11565606
Chilaquiles with an over easy egg, for breakfast.

>>11566386
Fucking this. I hate menudo.

Mole enchiladas

>>11566707
I went for similar reasons in the spring and had such a good time I went back again this fall. The food is generally amazing, and with the dollar's strength against the peso unbelievably cheap. Now is definitely a good time to go.

>>11565606
I just had a chorizo breakfast burrito it was nice

>>11566726
Mom?

Chilaquiles are the GOAT.

>>11567624
Absolutely when they're verde with some crema, onion, cotija and pulled chicken. Even better when jammed into a torta roll for double starch overload!

>>11566667
I much prefer lamb/mutton over goat, so that makes sense.

>>11566723
those sound like mostly flavoring agents rather than vegetables eaten for nutritional value, though.

>>11568868
I prefer goat, so it made me kinda sad to hear that from a goat farmer. Especially when I thought it would be easy to find tacos and consomme de chivo, but it was pretty much all sheep all the time on weekends in Mexico City. Still delicious though.

Until you have eaten beans/rice/handmade maize tortillas every day for a working week, you can’t say shit about Mexican food. Also, fuck you if you have to Google. huitlacoche

>>11565606
Tacos and burritos.

huitlacoche and ceviche are probably my favorites, too bad they're nearly impossible to find in the US

>>11568964
>huitlacoche
Can pretty much only find canned in the US, because it's seen as a crop disease here, and not allowed fresh.
>>11568964
>ceviche
Mexican ceviches (and cocktels) are easily found in coastal cities with Mexican populations. Just harder to find inland.

>>11568964
I had Mexican ceviche in NYC. It was sooo good. Great tasting fish ceviche on a tostada

>>11568983
yeah, I can find plenty of ceviche and coctel here in NYC

bump

>>11565606
Tortas are pretty dope

Cocain

mexican girl's soles

>>11565665
>let me tell you about my knowledge of REAL Mexican food

which moles are the best?

Quinqueladas with extra limes

>tfw wanna eat mexican street food but dont want to die from food poisoning
What do?

>>11571429
Recently spent 10 days eating street food there with no ill effects. Before the flight home overpaid for an airport sandwich at 6AM before flight. Was sick for the next three days. I'd trust the street food over what's for sale at the airport, that's for sure.

>>11571429
Pay attention to what they're making, then travel back to your non-shithole country that isn't a and cook it yourself

>>11565665
>enchiladas
>literally just mexican lasagna
what did they mean by this?

>>11571507
Not even close

I wonder why Mexican food never took off in Europe. Everything looks so tasty.

>>11573174
No Mexicans to bring it over.

>>11565869
Tasty list, anon.

>>11573253
Damned right iit is. Thanks.

>>11565606
Torta milanesa
sincronizada
any kind of mole
any kind of taco
gordita de chicharron

>>11573174
what the other guy said, barely any Mexicans in Europe.

>>11568964
Lots of ceviche here along the Texas coast

>>11570458
Notice the quotation marks dingus

>>11571453
Why is airport food so shitty?

Tamales Oaxaqueños > Regular tamales

Quesadilla de chicharron con Queso es el mejor.
Prueba que estoy equivocado

>>11576380
Top tier dish

>>11575836
what is the difference, banana leaves? I ordered one of the other day and it was pretty good, I coult taste the banana leaf flavor in the pork

Do Mexicans eat any vegetables?

>>11565869
Based pipian poster

>>11576480

>>11576542
those are mostly used for flavoring rather than having vegetable matter in the dish. Tomatoes, limes and avocados aren't vegetables anyway

>>11576582
heres your you

>>11565606
The one with the meat, beans, rice and cheese assembled with a bready wrapping, I forget the name

>>11576599
don't play stupid. limes, tomatoes, avocados are not vegetables and onion, garlic, and cilantro are used for flavor rather than getting a serving of vegetables.
>>11576603
>knows nothing about Mexican food

>>11566399
>I get to decide what Mexicans consider their own cuisine to be
You remind me of this episode of Chef's Table where a Thai woman and her white hipster husband claimed they were preserving "real Thai cuisine" selling avant garde gastronomy to white tourists in Bangkok

>>11576616
yeah ok, let me get my Mexican cookbook and go through every recipe pointing out the vegetables for you. autistic troll 1/10 for getting another reply.

>>11571507
Whites turn everything into a casserole, enchiladas never go to an oven (only a salamnder)

Pastel Azteca is the real Mexican Lasagna

>>11576616
http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/2144-mexico-s-leafy-green

https://survivingmexico.com/2016/07/16/fruits-and-vegetables/


or just image search "vegetable market mexico"

>>11576616
>Ignoring the chayote and nopales

I love living in New York, we have sooo much good Mexican food. There are also a lot of taco trucks/taquerias in some of the nightlife areas, eating good tacos when shitfaced is so enjoyable

I don't eat give a fuck about bagels and pizza, that's such an outdated stereotype

>>11576654
Agreed. I've been getting a lot of tortas lately, they're based. Pizza is so boring

Making some grilled carne asada tacos with all this veg sounds like a good idea right now

Fajitas are mostly veg as well: Onions, jalapeno, three types of peppers

alambres, if youve never heard of them look it up and you will not be disappointed

>>11565665
Shut your fucking mouth Ricardo

>>11576639
Wow two vegetables

>>11577481
That's one more than Americans eat.

>>11565606

>>11577491
Potatoes
Carrots
Broccoli
Celery
Cauliflower
Lettuce
Pickles
Tomatoes
Onions

>>11565606
My favorite Mexican dish is the steak chalupa

>>11577503
>Eat
You only eat the potatoes though.

these delicious motherfuckers that look like baby throw up

>>11576473
The corn used to make them is prepared differently than the regular tamales iirc

>>11573238
>>11574394
How many Mexicans are there in Canada? Did it take off there like in the US?

>>11578990
three or four

>>11565665
>ceviche
>mexican

Elotes is a very very basic and delicious Mexican dish, but the sauce you make for it is incredibly underrated. One of the best things I ever cooked was fish tacos with elote sauce:

>saute some white fish. set aside
>make pico de gallo
>>cilantro, diced fresh tomato, diced white onion, 1 clove minced garlic, lime juice, salt, pepper, 1/4 tsp sugar
>sliced avocado (optional)
>make elote sauce
>>1 part sour cream, 1 part mayonnaise, lemon juice, diced cilantro, paprika and cayenne pepper powder (make it speckley red and spicy to taste)
>fry corn tortilla in a very hot skillet with corn oil
>assemble taco

Note: cilantro = coriander herb for all of you living outside USA and Latin America

la pinata in san leandro california serves tlalpiquena, strips of steak coated in chile powder (chipotle), sauteed with peppers. its a plato similar to Carne a la tampiqueña, a signature dish from the 40s, but spicier.

>>11579515
>$6 for a taco
This is the problem with the Bay Area.

>>11565748
>>11565738
>>11565774
>>11566399
>>11576619
>there are retards to stupid to realize there are 3 broad general Mexican cuisines.North, Central, and south
>there are retards so amazed by this they call one more "real authentic Mexican food"

>>11565606
Pork Tamales with green sauce. But I have to monitor and regulate my aunt because she always fucks up the sauce and chooses the least spicy siranos possible.

A medium-cheddar Quesadilla with sour cream, green onion, and some habanero bits makes for a okay snack as well I suppose.
Ceviche is always a good time unless you're buying it from some shithole instead of making it yourself.

>>11565606
Chilaquiles for me

Do yourself a favor and try Mole Poblano, eat it with tortillas, it can be served with chicken or pork
It's fucking good

>>11578990
Not many. When I went to Montreal I didn't see any Mexican food. I've never been to a major US city that didn't have an abundance of Mexican food.

Side note, I was super embarassed because I was taking a dump and a super hot Cuban maid walked in on me in the hotel bathroom because the doors don't lock

>>11579522
>hurr Mexicans are worthless and only allowed to open up ghetto businesses that serve 1 dollar tacos
>>11580088
true, but each mole poblano varies. I've liked some more than others

How is Mexican food NOT lacking vegetables? Onions and Peppers don't count. Then again I guess you can say most world cuisines lack vegetables besides maybe Indian.

escamoles

>>11581382
i assume the troll is pretending only native Mexican vegetables can count in his pretend demand. or maybe he really is an idiot and thinks south of the border a hamburger cant exist.

>>11581382
>vegetables don't count as vegetables

>>11565606
chile relllanos but not covered in sour cream

I love tacos lengua that's covered in salsa verde tho

>>11582401
Caesar salad is from TJ.

>>11582415
Who counts onions as a vegetable?

>eat your onions, Billy

>>11582401
Totally not what I'm implying. I mean vegetables as in vegetables eaten for nutrition like spinach, broccoli, bok choi, carrots, cauliflower, etc.

Not just onions and peppers which are mainly there for flavoring

>>11576402
That looks like a mixto not just camarones
I definitely see pulpo and maybe abalone?
Looks good though I love cucumber in the coctel needs more avocado for me

>>11576635
are you from mexico or southwest usa?

>>11579513
>garlic in the pico de gallo
>pepper in the pico de gallo
>SUGAR in the pico de gallo
>elote.....sauce?
wtf

im so hungry

>>11576433
potzollcalli

>>11583712
Nopalitos, calabaza, tomates, lechuga, cebolla, tomatillo, chilies, papas and cuitlacoche are all popular. So are cabbage, carrots and even peas. Beans and various kinds of corn also figure prominently. In most of the markets the majority of the real estate is taken up by clothes and vegetables. They're also really big on fruits, so it might seem like they don't eat a lot of veggies because a chunk of their plant food intake comes from fruit.

>>11583944
Most of that is not real vegetables. How the fuck is a dusting of lettuce and onion count as a veg?

>>11584237
>squash cabbage carrots peas
>not real vegetables
ok

>>11584272
squash carrots and peas are real vegetables, but let's be real. most of Mexican food is onions and peppers most as vegetables

>>11584285
Hmm depends whose house or which restaurant you're eating at I guess. Bad luck 4 you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>11584289
>hurrrrrr onions are vegetables

>>11584292
when you think about it though, you can't knock Latinos for lack of vegatables when no cuisines besides Asians revolve around vegetables. America and Europe is meat and grains too.

>>11584292
Haha you're pretty funny. Where are you from friend? If you come to visit me I can make you a delicious mexican soup like pic related. We have this every week. And I will take you to the taco trucks where you can have as much sliced radish, cucumber and homemade pickled carrots as you like with your order, they are self serve. Then we will go to a fruteria for some vegetable juice, maybe a vampiro for you if you like beets. I think you will love it.

>>11581370
Ya, they are. Haven't met one good for anything but cheap labor, cheap food, and cheap women.

>>11584349
you're worthless white trash though, who are you to judge?
>>11584318
that's my point though, the vegetables are usually just garnish. putting a radish on a taco is not the same thing as eating a serving of vegetables. I have family in Ecuador who seek after metamucil, I sense it's because they're not eating enough vegetables

>>11581370
>expensive means it's good

Dirt is pretty good

>>11585536
I didn't say that. My point was that Latinos can charge whatever they want, they shouldn't be relegated to ghetto shit

Latinos are probably the most guilty of getting mad at Latino owned businesses for "overcharging", almost like they want their people to be perpetually underclass.

>>11585634
>cheap is ghetto
>expensive is quality