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11589759 No.11589759 [Reply] [Original]

>junk food tastes great and easily appeals to the senses
>healthy food supplies the body with vital nutrients but tastes gross

What did they mean by this?

>> No.11589766

Sweet potatoes are good and good for you

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>>11589759
I demand to know what they meant by this too.

>> No.11589788

Healthy food is amazing.
>home made chili
>home made terriyaki rice and lemon chicken
>home made steak and veggie stir fry
>baked salmon and lemon rice
Sounds like you think the only healthy food is shit like uncooked broccoli and boiled chicken. Expand your horizon idiot

>> No.11589796

>>11589759
healthy food can be fucking amazing you just have to know how to prepare it

>> No.11589801
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>"I'd rather die young and have a good quality of life" wheezed the flyover as he inhales another 2L bottle of HFCS and scratches his bedsores with his plastic bedsore scratcher he bought at Wal*mart.

Vegetables, fruits, nuts, dark leafy greens, and good quality meat and dairy come from the coasts and either have a limited shelf life or are bred for longevity and therefore do not taste good. So if you live in New York or San Francisco you can get the good local stuff from the farmer's market and it's self evident that it tastes great. If you live in Dubuque, you'll find tasteless crap that is basically inedible unless you drown it in "baco bits" and ranch dressing.

The stuff that lasts on the shelf in flyover country (HFCS, CAFO proteins, spray cheese, other processed garbage) is engineered to taste somewhat appealing under all circumstances.

If you've never had real food before of course you would think that a plastic bag with a wall of ingredients longer than Beowulf would taste better than real food. And the idea that a vegetable or fruit could actually be appealing to eat would sound like a hoax or a libtard conspiracy to make you feel uncultured.

Flyovers hear "healthy eating" and they think of a kind of suffering to be endured under medical supervision in response to a health scare.

>> No.11589803

>>11589759
>>healthy food supplies the body with vital nutrients but tastes gross

Healthy food doesn't taste "gross", you ignorant fuck. Your taste buds have just been conditioned on processed shit with excess sugars, salts, and fats, which makes the NORMAL levels of those ingredients seem light by comparison.

Eat trash, normal food tastes bland. That's why you should NEVER eat processed foods you don't make yourself whenever possible.

>> No.11589806

>>11589801
>rent free

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>I'll post this meme....it'll be sooooo cooool.

>> No.11589820

this might sound retarded, but if you cut out excess salt and sugar and processed foods, other foods (vegetables, fruits, etc) become much more appealing and, genuinely, start to taste better. Junk food “appeals to your senses” in the sense that it’s loaded with fat and sugar, substances that, in the wild, our bodies were evolutionarily-ingrained to crave. Now that we’ve isolated and concentrated these substances in our foods, we find that our bodies still crave it over everything else. I don’t know how much truth there is to this, but I’ve long heard that abstaining from these substances can “rewire” your taste buds/brain response, yielding a greater affinity for vegetables and fruits and whole grains. In short, you can literally ‘learn’ to like them more.

In an anecdotal example, one of our family friends developed a stupid, everyday habit of consuming soda. For New Years, he gave it up (along with other excess, sugary foods). At the end of that same year, he tried a can of soda and was repulsed by the content. In a sense, his body had been rewired to reject such extreme amounts of sugar.

Maybe this is the case, maybe it isn’t, I don’t know. But I gave all that shit up a long time ago, and I love vegetables

>> No.11589821

>>11589803
Imagine having opinions this gay. Yikes.

>> No.11589822

Spinach is fucking delicious and I will slay all those who disagree

>> No.11589829

>>11589801
Beowulf isn’t very long desu

>> No.11589839

>>11589801
I love that pic.
The headline always reminds me of the news ticker in SimCity 3000.

>> No.11589847

Your body also gets hungry even if you don't need to eat to survive.

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>>11589829
>everything I eat comes with an MSDS

>> No.11589864

>>11589766
Purple sweet potato master race

>> No.11589878

>>11589821
What are you, 12?

>> No.11590310

>>11589766
>dude carbs lmao
retard

>> No.11590327

>>11590310
Can you keto fags fuck off; we’re all incredibly impressed by your mind-boggling state of ketosis, no need to remind us every thread.
>Sweet potatoes are a rich source of fibre as well as containing a good array of vitamins and minerals including iron, calcium, selenium, and they're a good source of most of our B vitamins and vitamin C. One of the key nutritional benefits of sweet potato is that they're high in an antioxidant known as beta-carotene, which converts to vitamin A once consumed.

>> No.11590547

>>11590310
>carbs are bad
>carbs fueled the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Chines, Incan, Mayan, and Persian empires for centuries
You faggots are worse than vegan scum.

>> No.11590563

>>11590547
>anything people did 3000 years ago must automatically be good
Obvious keto false flagging

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>>11590563
>I have no legitimate response so I'll just post some stupid shit for attention

>> No.11590593

>>11589759
>What did they mean by this?

It's code for "I can't cook worth a shit". There's no reason why healthy food can't taste delicious.

>> No.11590722

>>11590578
That was my first post in this thread. Your argument was stupid. The Roman empire ate out of lead-glazed vessels too, you want to argue for that now?

>> No.11590744

>>11589759
It's related to evolution and relatively scant availability of sources of fats essential amino acids and salts which are essential for survival and normal cell function.

>> No.11590757

>>11589822
>sautees in butter cheese and salt

It's *BBBBUUUUURRRRPPPPPPP* fucking delicious guys! *piss stain on sweatpants intensifies*

>> No.11590763

>tastes gross
Learn to season you stupid fuck.
There's literally a ton of vegetables you can use and season to make indistinguishable from some meats.

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Imagine being a cucked anti-carnivore garbohydrate addict in 2018. Pathetic. I eat steak every single day and all you garbniggers can do is find some way to bitch and complain about it. Lmaoing at your lives fuhmilia

>> No.11590793

>>11590769
m8 you can do whatever you want, I just don’t think that much red meat everyday is good for your prostrate but, hey, go for it

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>>11590793
>I just don't think
Correct.
The difference between cucked beta omnivore/garbovore/herbivores and alpha chad carnivores is raw conviction. I know what I'm talking about with absolute certainty. You don't quite seem to be sure.
>falling for muh red meat bad kike propaganda
Sucks to be you.
>prostrate
Prostrate yourself before your king, peasant slave. Meat heals (dot com), and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

>> No.11590847

"Healthy food" means minimally-processed food. I.e. not frozen tv dinners, imitation products (vanilla, honey), and other shit like that. You can eat healthy and not be restricted to lettuce and root veggies.
And besides, eating less is infinitely better for you than eating healthy.

>> No.11590849

>>11589821
my 13 year old sister (who I have fucked) types like this
are you 13?

>> No.11590853

>>11590831
Oops I meant ‘prostate.’ Keto does sound fun though, I’m all for a little role-play. If I eat keto can I also tell people I’m a chad online? How long until I see these kinds of effects?

>> No.11591017

>>11589801
If you've actually ever read that article, you'd know she basically shits on OG in the nicest way possible.

>> No.11591701

>>11590547
Half of those did not rely on carbs, they were ketofags who ate 75% fat have you never heard if the Mediterranean diet
Retard

>> No.11591718

>>11589759
Homemade versions of junk food can be both healthier and tastier. Healthy food can be delicious with the right combination of ingredients and techniques.

>> No.11591737

>>11591701
To my knowledge, all of those consumed large quantities of carbs aside from the ancient greeks

>> No.11591819

>>11589759
Because we didn't evolve in the modern environment. We love sweet and fatty foods because in pre-historic days those were the most energy-efficient foods around. Come the industrial revolution we found ways to manufacture "distilled" versions of these foods that taste even better but are too much for our bodies.

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>>11589759
>they
You mean God, right?

>> No.11591953

>>11589759
Actual reason here, we need a lot less of shit like sugar than shit like iron and whatever, and sources of it in nature are more rare, so we've evolved to go after food that contains good tasting shit that we dont need a lot of first, then the shit that is easy to find and has the boring stuff that we need lots of
now that sugar is available in infinite supply to everyone it isn't such a great adaptation but that's how it goes

>> No.11592067

>>11591737
>aside from the ancient greeks
Athens imported grain from Egypt....just like everybody else.

>> No.11592074

>>11590310
carbs cause diabetes faster than sugar.
but lol carbs are bad fags deny this as they fatten up.

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>>11591953
>actual reason
>evolution
thanks neil degrasse tyson but pseudoscience isn't an actual reason

>> No.11592098

>>11591701
Mediterranean diet is very low on animal fats, none of your “Dude, steak xdd”

>> No.11592683

>>11589821
>states facts
>Calls them "opinions"

>> No.11592729

>>11589801
I am a flyover and have a local farmer's market and buy livestock annually and deep freeze it, none of that is possible or financially feasible on the coasts. I also get two deer a year minimum with ducks, geese and whatever else I feel like going for. If I fished I could get my own salmon and stuff too, but I dont. You cant do any of that on coasts as easily as I do in Michigan.

>> No.11592736

>>11589759
They meant you need to have a balanced diet.

>> No.11592774

>>11589759
You are something that is easy to manipulate. People rave about local food all over the world that tourists need to eat. Recently I bought soem San Marzano tomatoes and these are likely the most commercially available example of what proper food cultivation means to a food. Buy a can of those, and buy a can of dollar brand tomatoes and open them and see which tastes better. Look at the nutrient profiles. I bought a whole pig this summer raised on no soy. Easily the best meat I have ever had in my entire life. Nothing at the grocery store can or will compare nutritionally or taste wise.

Unfortunately, (Im american so pol shitposters can miss me) American diets are horrible by design. Corporations make money when you eat. Its all designed bottom up for their benefit.
>breakfast is the most important blah blah blah
It isnt, and the industry has most meals as carbs and sugars, which make you hungry faster (willing to spend more money on shit).
Attacks on meat and dairy over the years are you make you more dependent on easier to produce food.
DV on sugar isn't shown (around 10 grams is right, one can of 12oz soda had 40+)

>> No.11593987

>>11592729
what are you talking about, I live in new hampshire and lots of people do that stuff as well. I'm not defending any attacks on midwest or whatever flyover means, but to say you can't do that easily here is completely disingenuous.

>> No.11594017

>>11589801
>roastie toasty coastie
>thinks meat and staple crops come from the coast
>thinks beowulf is a long book
Roastie coastie oh so toasty. Why so toasty, coastie?

>> No.11594029

>>11590757
>not eating spinach directly from the soil, leaves, steam, root and all

>> No.11594163

>>11593987
Sorry to tell you but New Hampshire is flyover, anon. You guys have, what, 5 miles of coast?

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>>11591864
god isnt real

>> No.11594270

>>11594163
the only people flying over us are going to or from maine, which is probably even better for all that stuff.

>> No.11594282

>>11593987
portsmouth reporting in. there are a lot of faggots among the younger people downtown but otherwise it's a fine place. where you from?

>> No.11594408

>>11591701
Mediterranean diet relies heavily on Wheat and not much meat at all

>> No.11594411

>>11592067
And when that wasnt enough they even went as far as Ukraine to make their own wheat producing colonies

>> No.11594463

>>11589759
Back in my human evolution class, one of my peers was researching how/why our taste evolved the way it did. Can't remember the exact term, but what we can make with junk food are "hypertaste stimuli" or something. In other words, our monkey brain knows sweet tasting things means high concentrations of vitamin C, something we can't produce on our own the way other animals can. We also look for salty, as salt is required to live. We find their sensations pleasurable because we know we get good stuff/nutrients from them. The problem is that the amount of detectable "sweet" in a pear versus a soda is unnaturally different, meaning the soda will win in the taste battle because it takes advantage of how we've evolved our taste to be important selectors/judges in what's nutritional or not.

>> No.11594466

>>11594463
But I've never been to college and already knew that from Wikipedia. Was your peer wasting his time?

>> No.11594475

>>11594466
In college "researching" means copying wikipedia/a source from wikipedia and changing the words around with a thesaurus.

>> No.11594559

>>11591953
>so we've evolved to go after food that contains good tasting shit that we dont need a lot of first, then the shit that is easy to find and has the boring stuff that we need lots of
"boring" food is a modern problem.

>> No.11594562

>>11594463
>collegefags learning common sense in exchange for thousands upon thousands of dollars a year

>> No.11594575

>>11591819
Hopefully all the trash who can't get enough pizza and hot dogs will die out before passing on their genetics

>> No.11594579

>>11590310
natural starches aren't bad in moderation. Main thing to worry about is processed wheat , etc

>> No.11594634

>>11594017
>Beowulf
>Book
How's that flyover public education treating ya?

>> No.11594639

>>11589829
>>11589854
Are we talking about parts 1 AND 2? Because no, it's not modern-novel length, but it's more than a 20 minute story.

>> No.11594657

>>11594207
Says the sinner.

>> No.11594791

>>11589788
>teriyaki rice
>teriyaki is mirin, sugar, soy sauce
>sugar and sodium on rice
>healthy
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11594845

>>11594017
>Roastie coastie oh so toasty. Why so toasty, coastie?
This is America, speak English or get out.

>> No.11594869

>>11594466
One would guess they might be researching what specifically is the stimuli to those cravings so they can be turned off, or changed to healthier foods or some such.
People's tastes do change over time, don't know if it can be done on purpose though.

>> No.11594871

>>11593987
Flyovers think industrial monocropping is the only way to grow food

>> No.11595000

>>11589821
That's a yikes mood from me too, friendo, but ok.

>> No.11595275

>>11594475
I don't know what kind of college you attended but trying to do that these days will get you caught pretty fucking fast.

>> No.11595288

>>11589759
Junk food rewires the brain and your tongue.
If you stopped eating junk food, and I mean completely remove junk food from your body, for a month, candy will taste too sweet, and you'll start to enjoy real food like you should.

Trust me, you feel so much better.

>> No.11595318

health = GENETICS

If you have good genetics you can do anything and you'll be fine. If you have bad genetics no matter how much unprocessed food you eat you still gonna get sick/fat.

>> No.11595340

>>11595318
>preventable illnesses don’t exist
Fucking idiot.

>> No.11595386

>>11595318
This is just what fatties tell themselves to justify their habits.

>> No.11595392

>>11595318
Ok fatty.

>> No.11595440

>>11595318
>victim mentality

>> No.11595468

>>11592729
Wrong. My major tech-center coastal city has loads of farmers markets, plus home delivery of farmshare produce, meat and fish. Hunting is also decent if you bother to get out of town.

>> No.11595481

>>11589759
Objectively wrong. Watermelon tastes better than watermelon candy

>> No.11595485

>>11589759
>food
>healthy

yeah naw fatso.

>> No.11595494

Junk food only tastes good if you are conditioned to like it. I went on a health kick four years ago and quit all that shit, and now I can't even eat it. It doesn't take good because it is too sweet or tastes chemical-like. It's all what you are used to.

If you stop all junk food for three or four months, you'll stop having a taste for it, in my experience. The first month was hard tho.

>> No.11595500

>>11589864
Purple potatoes are definitely based

>> No.11595668

>>11594791
>can't EVER eat sugar with anything or its unhealthy
unless he drowned it in sauce, you're making a pretty stupid point anon

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>>11595275
No it won't, I have a 3.8 GPA in state and I'm two years away from my MD. Nobody cares you lying fucking dipshit boomer.

Everyone kill this guy.

>> No.11596935

>>11590327
>including iron
1.5% RDA in a 100g serving
>calcium
0.5%
>selenium
0.3%
>B vitamins
B12 is 0%, B2 is 1%, B3 is 7%, B6 is 14%
>and vitamin C
12%

Seriously, spinach or kale is a much better option. Check a nutrition database, potatoes don't even have as much potassium as you might think.

>> No.11597208

>>11595288
Can confirm this. I can't stand eating most junk food these days, and will prefer fruit over candy

>> No.11597219

>>>/a/

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>>11596935
Where did you pull that out of? Purple sweet potatoes are less, but much more than what you posted. Genuinely confused

>> No.11597296

>>11590310
Legitimately the same amount of obnoxious as vegans. Sorry you cant control your food intake unless you are on a meme diet.

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>>11596123
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism_detection#Software-assisted_detection

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>>11598928
>change sentence structure and words used
>now useless
I don't why you're even arguing because it's obvious you've never attended a college at the same time as the internet existing.

>> No.11599720

>>11599541
Yeah, because the people who develop these softwares didn't think that anyone could possibly think of doing that.
Don't be a lazy thief and instead mark your references and come to your own conclusions.

>> No.11599725

>>11599720
You didn't make a rebuttal, your post was literally just ignoring what I said and repeating what you've already said. I could've made a better argument on your behalf. You're a stupid contrarian nigger with a bad argument, you've never been to a modern college, and you have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.11599735

>>11599725
He didn't need no stinkin' college, he was homeschooled by evangelicals and got all the learnin' there is to be got.

>> No.11599740

>>11599725
I'm not the same person you originally replied to. Also I'm almost finished with my bachelor of engineering degree so yes I have attended a modern college.

>> No.11599768

>>11599740
I guess you should stop writing similar to and have the same exact points of view as total brainless retards then, faggot.

>> No.11599769

>>11589766
literally not true

>> No.11599781

>>11599768
Ok. I'll try to keep that in mind.

>> No.11599784

>>11599781
No you won't.