/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>11723976
I used to drink alcohol because I thought it made me cool, making a gigantic fool of myself in attempt to drown out my sorrows. It was also a way of trying to fit in with the people around me. Glad I was able to grow out of that phase. Sobriety is great.

>>11723976
>Actually drink some and its better as fuck

>>11723976
Are you familiar with the concept of an "acquired taste?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquired_taste
Hope this helps! Thanks for stopping by 4channel's /ck/.

>>11723988

I meant "bitter". Must be making me drunk already lmao.

>>11723989
This. Alcohol isn't for everyone. Like how coffee isn't for everyone.

What am I supposed to do with the rest of this bottle?

>>11724037
Could cook with it? Or give it to a homeless person.

>>11723976
I do because I’m a depressive alcoholic and booze has literally destroyed my life. If you don’t like it stop while you’re ahead I beg you.

>>11724037
How about you get with the times, gramps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsJgPA3cgYU

(Just use it in a stew)

>>11723976
>can't appreciate bitter flavor profiles
Underage b&

>>11724047

It's one of the few times I've drank alcohol. I've had stuff like vodka before, and I get it even if I don't really like being drunk. But I tried some wine and it's just more of that bland nastiness. I was hoping for some kind of fruity taste.

>>11723989
"Acquired taste" is a made up phrase invented by abusive Chinese parents who beat their kids into actually believing that they like the taste of shark penis and century eggs.

It's also what posers say when they're trying to fit in by claiming they "like" beer.

Nobody likes beer. You're just faking it like everybody else.

>>11723976
There are several options OP:
- wine should never be bitter, maybe you got a bottle of shit merlot (even if it was an expensive bottle it could have been stored wrong)
- you didn't serve it at the right temperature
- there are many different wines, maybe try a lighter and sweeter variety to get started
- you drink mostly soda and your tastebuds are accustomed to overly sweet beverages - sorry, drinks for grown ups are not for you

Wine sucks. I don't recommend it.

t. alck

>>11723976
>Why the fuck do people drink alcohol?
Mostly a combination of tradition and not knowing any better. Alcohol was probably the first psychoactive compound known to man, and as a consequence there's been tons of cultural history centered around drinking alcohol as a socially acceptable mind altering experience. It's a bottom rung drug and there are many alternatives that are either far more pleasurable, far more interesting, or both, but most people either aren't aware of that fact or else don't bother pursuing non-alcohol drugs because of concerns about legal repercussions or not knowing how to get access to them.

>>11724077
My father must have been some kind of ultrahipster.
Faked his way through something like 30 cans a day for decades.
I really wish I hadn't found that out just now. Not sure I can respect the old man now that I know he was a poser.

>>11724069
>I was hoping for some kind of fruity taste.
They do make alcoholic drinks like that where you don't taste any alcohol and the actual flavor's genuinely like whatever it's being advertised as. Mike's hard lemonade and the different other flavors that brand offers are one example. Wine's usually not like that because wine snobs actually want it to taste like it's been fermented and not like it's grape juice.

>>11723976
>>11723995
>>11724037
In Japan, people who don't enjoy the taste of alcohol find umeshu tolerable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umeshu

Umeshu (梅酒) is a Japanese liqueur made by steeping ume fruits (while still unripe and green) in alcohol (焼酎 shōchū) and sugar. It has a sweet, sour taste, and an alcohol content of 10–15%. The taste and aroma of umeshu can appeal to even those people who normally dislike alcohol.

>>11723976
Merlot is a mass appeal grape, people like it because it’s plain and does everything you want a red to do. You probably just don’t like red wine but you could try like pinot noir or dornfelder.

>>11724106
At 30 cans a day he was obviously going after the effects of alcohol and not the taste. Nobody drinks 30 cans a day of a fluid that doesn't have a drug effect built into it.

>>11723976
never had sex, have you?

>>11724140
>not doing gomad

Do not help OP.
Let him flail around like a fucking idiot and be laughed at when adults are talking.

>>11723976
If you don't like it don't drink it. What you definitely shouldn't do is piss and moan about being a tastelet you insufferable twat.

>>11724077
>$250b industry

Fucking retard

>>11724077
You must be a peach to be around.

>>11724077
i like light lager

>>11724159
Anon, a gallon is not 30 cans.

>>11724126
or he could just mix vodka and gatorade like a normal high schooler

>>11724160
I'm going to help OP now just to spite your normie alcohol loving ass.
>>11723976
>Is it literally "oh look it gets me drunk lol" is the only reason people drink this crap?
Pretty much, yes.
>>11724077
>I tried some wine and it's just more of that bland nastiness. I was hoping for some kind of fruity taste.
Pinot noir's what you're after. It's known as the red wine for people who don't like red wine and that movie Sideways even brings up repeatedly how Merlot in particular is bad and Pinot noir is the better choice. It's also known for tasting less alcohol-esque and more fruity. For high quality but a little expensive there's Beaux Frères. For affordable you can go with Broadley Vineyards Willamette Valley or something else around the $20-$30 range. Less than $20 and you start to risk buying something awful.

>>11724077
Imagine being so outside of the loop that you actually believe the ENTIRE alcohol industry is just predicated off of people trying to be cool

>>11724376
not him but thanks i'm picking up a bottle of pinot noir for my fren who desperately needs to widen his horizon

>>11723976
>first time drinking
pro tip: it's not water so don't drink it as such, unless it's beer.
the more you sniff the alcohol the more intense it will be. scent enhances flavor.
when you take a sip, key word: sip, let it linger in your mouth for a moment , and open up your gullet and just let it fall down to your stomach. especially important for liquors.
start with "girly" wines, ones that are more sweet than dry and bitter (less tannin)

wine and other alcoholic drinks have quite a bit of variability in flavor. You can get flavors ranging from grapefruit to leather and everything in between in wine, and beer and spirits are wholly different worlds. Just keep drinking stuff until you find something you like, then keep exploring.

>>11724316
Or, he could just not be a drug-addled degenerate in the first place
Stop trying to addict people into your cult

>>11724140
Why beer, though? There are plenty of easier ways to get the same amount of ethanol in you if you hate the taste of all of it.

>googling how to drink alcohol
cringe. Go outside you neet

>>11723976
Wine is more about status that quality. Its all image based. A lot of alcohol is actually good though

>>11723976
No one likes their first beer or their first cigarette. It grows on you. Also merlot is shit, I don't even know why it exists. It's basically pinot noir for toddlers

>>11724534
>There are plenty of easier ways to get the same amount of ethanol in you if you hate the taste of all of it.
Almost all other normal ways of getting alcohol in your system involve more alcohol with less water, and most people don't like the feeling of dumping that much alcohol into their system that quickly. It's not because beer tastes great (especially when we're talking about someone drinking a 30 pack per day), it's because beer keeps it entering your system at a more comfortable rate.

>mfw looking at all these fools that can't appreciate a fine vintage

>>11723988
BOOMERS IFFY UH
JANNIES GETTING STICKY UH

>>11723976
try some real wine

red wine and Cesars/Bloody Marys are the only two adult drinks I never grew into. It is especially weird since I strongly prefer dry white Wine's so you think I'd like a Merlot but nope. I dont hate it like I hate those vodka V8s, but it is kinda meh. that being said saying one particular type of one particular drink based on fermented grapes is all of alcohol is a bit retarded anon. Like saying I hate salmon, so why the fuck do people eat food?
>>11724077
>>11723989
I think part of it is just your tastes change with age and it is confused with "acquired" like when you are a kid you love super sugary sweet shit, but as an adult you start to like dry stuff and more bitter stuff. But also acquired taste is not necessarily just subjecting yourself to something till you like it. It is like drinking Mocha Fraps, to Mochas, to then liking Coffee with lots of sugar and creme, to then exclusively drinking black coffee, which before the path you hated. Or drinking lagers, then say pilsners, and maybe pale ales, until IPAs start tasting good and then your pallete is refined enough to enjoy a good stout. Kids dont just start forcing themselves to drink Imperial stouts at like 15 until they enjoy it 10 years later, it is more the refinement of your pallette.

>>11725283

>>11725294
ok

>>11725287
boy

WINE POWER RANKINGS
Napa Valley>BC>>>>>>France>Argentina>Chile>Australian Goon>Italian.

>>11723976
>first alcoholic drink
>fucking merlot
At least get some cabernet you fucking pleb

It's okay kid. Just start pounding back the moscato and in twenty years you will be calling Merlot grape juice for kids.

>>11723976
Belgium beer is great compared to the pisswater out there
Wine sippin limp dicked boomers and their merlot can fuck off

Isn't it basically all but confirmed that alcohol is attractive only to depressed people?

>not much of a drinker
>family harasses me to drink whenever I visit
>they always eventually get butthurt or start mocking me
WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE

>>11724099
DUDE

>>11723976
I drink alcohol to kill social nerves and it makes me good with girls, but the catch 22 is when I drink a lot I can't get hard.

>>11724037
DRINK IT YOU FAG

>>11723976
People who enjoy wine have a much more refined palate than most people. Just in my experience with people I have met so far in my life the most adventurous eaters I find drink wine because they like the taste, with or without food.
And people who drink beer either drink it to get a buzz, or drink appropriate beers because they enjoy the taste, but most likely would rather a glass of wine.

Spirits are mainly for social drinking, people who enjoy whiskey and scotch are just a breed of their own.

>>11724077
>Am I out of touch?
>No, it must be literally everyone else who is wrong

I like taste of vodka and cheap whiskeys. There's something about that "raw" taste.

>>11723982
are you literally me?

>>11724148
Awwww look at the little baby

maybe it's just something to drink.

>>11723976
When it comes to drinks that arent too strong and go well with certain food e.g, ales, wines beers etc; theres a certain ritual to it that adds to the enjoyment for many

>>11723976

Depends on how you feel about alcohol in general. I'd drink wine even if there wasn't any alcohol in it, because I like bitter and fruity things.
If there was no alcohol in alcoholic things, it would be half the price and I'd buy twice as much of it.

>>11723976
people of refined taste (not you) actually enjoy it.
you can stick to your coca-cola and other junk food.

>>11724159
GOBAD

>>11726547
>that "raw" taste
aka alcohol

>>11723976
I'm ADD and autistic. It calms me down.

>>11723976
Wine is for pretentious faggots who want to look cool. If you want enjoyable alcohol, then get a cold beer or some irish whiskey.

>>11726990
cringe

>>11723976
Look, kiddo, if you don't understand it then by all means don't drink wine, but humanity has loved wine and other forms of alcohol for literally thousands of years. Jesus loved wine. Do you really think you're the only one not pretending to like it? Your American tastebuds are fucked and desensitized from shoveling garbage down your gullet. Normal adults like bitter as a flavor.

>>11723976
Maybe pinot grigio is more suited for your baby palate. Adults like astringency and alcohol can release different flavor compounds

>>11727127
One time I was at a restaurant with some girls from work I ordered a pinot gris but fucked up and accidentally said grigio instead.
The server's smirk made it clear that he thought I just didn't know how to pronounce it.
This was years ago and it still haunts me.

get this Op, my 12 year old niece loves it.

>>11724423
>>11724376
Try honey muscats from hungary, It's called muskotaly here. You'd enjoy the delicious bittersweet taste.

>>11725148
>30 pack per day
Was his father André the Giant?

>>11727134
if the girls didn't notice you got off easy

>>11727183
I've worked with a lot of alcoholics and I can tell you that 30 beers a day, which is about 10 liters of beer, isn't even close to what our hardest drinkers went through. I can see building the tolerance to alcohol but it always amazed me that they could manage the sheer volume.
I'd be very hard pressed drinking ten liters of water in a day, let alone beer. But it happens. And it's not even that rare with serious alcoholics.

>>11727203
I'm a beer drunk myself, I usually end up around a 24 pack and that's as far as I can go. My stomach is all stretched out and distended as a result though, massive stretch marks scars all over my beer gut

>>11724037
chug it or cook with it, gravy or stew would be my bet for first time use

>>11723976

Is sherry supposed to taste line wine?
I got a bottle and it tastes closer to old vermouth than anything.
I didn't think it would go bad at 17.5%, but it doesn't seem like it's drinkable on it's own.

At my worst the most beers I could drink was 11 and that is when I'd usually black out.
I weigh 130 lbs though

>>11725403
literally came here to post this

>>11723976
The only logical reason not to get drunk every night is to get shredded.

>>11727561
Cringe

>>11727561
Dorian is a fag name

>>11727209
That's called liver disease. Your liver is secreting fluids into your abdomen as it slowly dies. Soon you'll turn yellow, and start passing out from just walking up stairs and your shit will look like clay.

Good luck!!

>>11727566
Name one (1) reason to not get drunk besides getting ripped.

>>11727603
You'd be surprised just how durable people are. It takes some real fucking work to get jaundice.

>>11726030
???
Literally every functional adult drinks alcohol at least occasionally. Are you okay anon?

>>11727645
Yup. Until shit hits the fan.
The liver is what doctors call a non complaining organ because of the daily beating it takes. Chronic alcoholics can be walking around with a liver in heavy fibrosis state, and then poof one day it just says no more.

>>11726036
They just don't want you to be a pussy/weirdo anon. Drinking is a social tradition, and it's normal to try to encourage your family members to engage in social norms with you.

Basically all I'm saying is find a drink you can at least sip while in their presence, and you will make everyone more comfortable, as well as finally earning the respect of your family.
Faggot.

>>11724077
>Nobody likes beer. You're just faking it like everybody else.
This is pure autism. I don't like something so nobody else could possibly like it either - if they claim to they're just pretending.

>>11727603
I'm pretty sure its just a beer gut from all the beer, I'm in my mid 20's so way too early for my liver to start failing.

>>11727724
Do you know how many people get liver disease in their early 30s because of their shitty alcoholism in their 20s?
Lots. It's a huge issue in the UK.

Get a liver functions test. Bet you'll fail.

>>11727692
I work at a rehab and I've only seen one case of cirrhosis under age 50 after 3 years working. He was 34 and looked horrific. That said, the more surprising thing is how damaging percosets are to the liver because each one had 500mg of acetaminophen in it. They have since lowered the aceaminophen because of the recreational use. I know a girl with fatty liver from it who has been sober over a year. It would have cleared up but she eats like shit now.

>>11727752
Frankly anon, I'd rather not even know. If my liver is actually fucked, it's too late to do anything. Why torture myself with that knowledge if that's how I'm going out eventually anyways

>>11727752
>in the UK

You can't compare American alcoholism to UK. Your normal is out alcoholic.

It has its applications.
>using it in beef stews
>compliments the taste of red meat while drinking Red wine on the side
>certain cheeses like Austrian mountain cheese

>>11723982
I never understood these people. Do drugs because they get you high, how does the "cool" factor even get involved?

>>11725393
keep spamming that moment of the jew award show you saw and thought was so epic and funny it would become a 4chan meme and everyone would post it acknowledging your comedic genius, faggot

>>11727791
>how does the "cool" factor even get involved?
Because consuming drugs is often a social thing. Very much so in the case of alcohol and weed.

>>11727791
>how does the "cool" factor even get involved
In brains of people who haven't been fully developed yet.

>>11727791
>Do drugs because they get you high, how does the "cool" factor even get involved?

It's cool because it allows me to rebel against my white, patriarchal father.

I'M A REBEL AND AN ACTIVIST!!!!

>>11727791
Again, work at a rehab. Addicts are stupid and maladaptive but it usually starts at age 12-14 before they can think about that kind of thing and most of them have terrible parents. The age an addict begins is the age they remain mentally when it comes to opiates.

>>11727888
>tfw went through an opiate addiction for a little over a year at age 17
W E W
E
W

>>11727880
>It's cool because it allows me to rebel against my white, patriarchal father.
>patriarchal father.

i c wut u did thar

>>11724077
Actual autism

>>11723976
I dont drink anymore , i may still use wine or beer in receipe if i find some to my taste.

>>11723976

>tfw the only decent wine you have tasted came out of a box and every bottle you have touched is just rank grapes

>>11725358
The problem with Bloody Mary's is that the tomato juice has a fuckton of sugar. Make your own or don't buy shitty V8 and it makes a world of difference.

>>11723976
I like the alcoholic taste

>>11723976
Drink port its better

>>11727899
>a year
noob

Young people drink it because they’re stupid and adults drink because their life sucks.

https://youtu.be/igTQoCBwp-4

>>11723976
I'm drunk right now fight me faggot

Some people have a taste for it, it's like coffee, not everyone likes it.

>>11723976
you drink with friends. you celebrate. you drink on special occasions like graduation, weddings and what ever

>>11723989
Acquired taste is bullshit. Literally forcing yourself until you to can tolerate it. Just like fetishes.

>>11730973
V8 isn't tomato juice. It's vegetable mix juice.

>>11732907
Around 90% of the vegetable content in V8 is tomato, stop being an autistic pedant.

>>11724077
I 100% agree with this faggot

>>11732903
this, I only eat macaroni and cheese 24/7.

Try a different wine or try a different kind of alcohol. I need to try more wines but the 5~ times I've tried it I hated it. I'm alright with beer save that it makes me have to piss like a racehorse in a way that water never does. But spirits are great - there's no end of options including shit that is so sugary it makes soda look like plain water - Liqueurs. However I don't recommend those however as you could end up stuck on them and not want to venture outside of that. I can't really name a spirits which I feel is sharply bitter the way wine is. It's more of a burn and a strong overwhelming taste than a sharp bitterness. Personally I love brandy and cognac, but whiskey is good rum is good vodka is good I'm not big on tequila though.

>>11723976
Try different wines. I can't stand reds, or sweet wines. But dry whites go down like water. The more vinegary the better. I love it.

>>11723976
>Actually drink some and its better as fuck
So what's the problem

>>11725877
Tried Leffe and it's tasty, what other Belgian beers available to a European are good?