/ck/ - Food & Cooking

The round theme this time is SANDWICH!

There are no constraints on what type of sandwich to make (see the sandwich alignment chart for an idea on this) but you'll have to convince anons that it's a sandwich to win their votes.

So far we have 1 submission from Tiki Doomer and another anon who I'll need a timestamp of the dish from >>12141092 . 1 week remains in the challenge so get in the kitchen and make me a motherfucking sandwich!

Past Challenges: http://ckchallenge.blogspot.com/

Thread Archives:

Round 1, Thread 1 >>/ck/thread/S11988786
Round 1, Thread 2 >>/ck/thread/S12049363
Round 1 Voting Thread >>/ck/thread/S12073266

So far the following submissions have been put in:

Tiki Doomer (Bourbon Tri-Tip Sandwich)
Moose (Classic French Sourdough Baguette Sandwich)
Sakeanon (Moussaka Sandwich)
FPM (Kung Fu Chicken Sandwich)
Quaff (Salmon Lime Cream and Pickle Mini Sandwiches)

If I missed any please let me know so I can correct it!

>>12164603
My vote is for the Impossible Whopper

>>12164614
Take your beet juice shit back to Canada.

>My vote is for the Impossible Whopper
>>12164653

>>12164614
>>12164661
Why don’t you just make an impossible burger and enter into the contest?

Gentlemen, let me introduce to you the carnitas styled pulled pork sandwich, with a spicy orange based barbeque sauce with home made buns with and a honey butter glaze.

Recipe will likely come tomorrow.

Guys, I’m doing it...I’m actually making bread..rn

Vote for real or fake

>>12165866
>honey butter glaze
I'm already very interested in that recipe, would love to use it once Summer comes around!

>>12166497
>honey
>butter

This shit ain't rocket science bro.

how do i make a collage pic for my submission?

>>12166771
image editing program. Photoshop, gimp, etc.

>>12166771
I use MS paint that's why they look like shit. Also I drink a lot

lets see how this pic turns out

>>12167009
Should have just lied and said you made the sauce then shitpost everyone else’s entry to make yours look better. Never done this before?

>>12167019
i am a man of principles.

>>12167009
Timestamp?

>>12167172

What the fuck is up with all the French bread? I can’t think of a worse bread to use for a sandwich.

>>12167209
Cheers!

>>12167230
i was going to make ciabatta but i didnt have the right flour like i though. baguette is perfect bread for sandwich.

>>12167242
Too dense.

>>12164614
>>12164661
Why are the BK shills in full force?

>>12166120
Well, it was my first time, and the crumb is absolute shit and the crust was too hard, it was more like a thick bread and butter dinner loaf than soft, airy sandwich bread. I'll just try again this weekend.

here's my sandwich submission; kind of want to re-do but may not have time.

>how do you cut soft bread without crushing it?

>>12168219
Uh, a sharp serrated knife?

>>12168219
is this literally a bread sandwich?

>>12168382
No. It's a toast sandwich.

>>12168382
>>12168429
Exactly

>>12168219
Crap I forgot I buttered and lightly toasted the sandwich bread idk if that’ll make a difference or not

>>12168219
>>12168429
>>12168514
Literally the most pretentiously overdone shit I've ever seen. It's a piece of toast between two pieced of crushed white bread and some beef burnt to look like a dogs chew toy. Don't even try and pretend its anything more.

>>12168546
Yikes; strong reaction there. Thought I did ok last round; sorry for trying to have some fun this round

>>12168219
The absolute madman.

>>12168219
Probably the only appetizing toast sandwich I’ve ever seen.

>>12168546
I gotta agree with this. If even one person says, "but he used bread in two different ways" i will puke. With the balsamic reduction this is basically a crouton sandwich.

>>12168219
Fucking kek. Well done anon.

>>12169905
whats the difference between a crouton and a well-toasted piece of toast other than form?
>>12169630
>>12169926
thanks but i wish i did better with the bread on the outside; i used a serrated knife as per >>12168339 's suggestion but the toast was too crusty and i couldnt cut through it easily

>>12170140
I just straight up don't think that qualifies as a sandwich. If three pieces of bread stacked ontop of each other van ne considered a sandwich then i should be able to submit two plain white piece of toasted bread on a plate and call that an open faced toast sandwich. Forget the balsamic bullshit because this isn't a balsamic onion reduction contest. I mean why even have a theme at that point. Just have everyone submit whatever the fuck they want and see who wins if we're going to make this much of a mockery of the theme?

>>12170140
I just straight up don't think that qualifies as a sandwich. If three pieces of bread stacked ontop of each other van ne considered a sandwich then i should be able to submit two plain white piece of toasted bread on a plate and call that an open faced toast sandwich. Forget the balsamic bullshit because this isn't a balsamic onion reduction contest. I mean why even have a theme at that point if we're going to make such a mockery of it? Just have everyone submit whatever the fuck they want and see who wins.

>>12170181
yeah some got into the whole sandwich definition in the first thread
see:
>>12119968
>>12124972
>>12131833
>>12137475
>>12137795
>>12138723
I figured since its recognized as a sandwich on wiki, it would qualify for the theme >>12168514
you can give me a 0/5 on theme if you want, i just wanted to have fun and didnt want to make a "regular" sandwich this round

>>12170181
funnily enough, open faced sandwiches arent on the alignment chart but using >>12131833 this definition, i think yes; two pieces of toast would technically be an open faced toast sandwich depending on how you define "cover"

>>12170181
>Just have everyone submit whatever the fuck they want and see who wins.

Yes, that's the idea.

>>12170207
For what its worth i think the chairman royalty fucked up by allowing such incredible ambiguity. In my mind a person should be able to look at an entry and know that it's a sandwich without any ambiguity. I'm sorry but no one should have the leeway to make something that literally requires explanation as to why it should be considered a sandwich. Let me put it another way. If i orde re a club sandwich minus everything but the bread is it still a sandwich? I don't think so and i don't really see any difference between that and your entry.

>>12170207
>you can give me a 0/5 on theme if you want
Sure but this brings up the same problem i addressed last thread. If you can take a zero in theme and still max out the other categories you still get enough points to win or at least come very close to winning based on last rounds scoring. If that's the case then why even have a then if it can be so easily dismissed or even ignored? Wither make the theme category worth more points so its weighted heavier in the overall scoring or get rid of it completely because currently it serves no real function.

>>12170207 #
>you can give me a 0/5 on theme if you want
Sure but this brings up the same problem i addressed last thread. If you can take a zero in theme and still max out the other categories you still get enough points to win or at least come very close to winning based on last rounds scoring. If that's the case then why even have a theme if it can be so easily dismissed or even ignored? Either make the theme category worth more points so its weighted heavier in the overall scoring or get rid of it completely because currently it serves no real function.

>>12170227
>>12170247
i think if there's at least one thing between the bread its technically a sandwich but things get confusing when you start to include "open faced" sandwiches. and in terms of scoring i'd argue if someone straight out fails to meet the theme requirements, they should be awarded 0/5 on originality since the competition should be about using the theme ingredient creatively or interpreting the theme creatively. you could also argue they/i should receive low scores on appeal because if for example you order a steak at a restaurant and the waiter serves you a bowl of soup instead, it would not appeal to you. so if a contestant makes a stunning dish and completely ignores the theme a max of 5/20 is fair imo
>give me a 5/20, it was still pretty tasty and fun to make

>>12170227
>If i orde re a club sandwich minus everything but the bread is it still a sandwich?
That's the point of the theme though. Submissions can be unique but how voters give their interpretation of what a sandwich is makes the challengers entirely at the mercy of /ck/. Its chaotic and fun that way.

>>12170140
>whats the difference between a crouton and a well-toasted piece of toast other than form?
Don't French people call whole slices of toast croutons? I'm sure I can remember seeing some dude on tv make onion soup, say "and add the crouton", and just whip out a fucking slice of baguette from the grill.

>>12170482
Crouton is derived from a French word meaning crust so kind of.

>>12165866
Probably gonna lose points for not having some green stuff in it, but that's a picture perfect bun, it's like a cartoon.

>>12171887
Why? Nothing says sandwiches need to have greens. That’s totally arbitrary.

>>12171887
pulled pork sandwiches never have greens. what mongoloid country are you from that doesn't know that?

>>12171913
I'm just offering a forecast of the whims of the gallery, not making a sandwich law decree.

>>12171988
"Never" is strong, it seems pretty common to have some sort of vegetable foil in there.

>>12172637
Ok true, never might be a bit over the top but from where I’m from I’ve never had a restaurant put greens or coleslaw on a pulled pork sandwich.

>>12165866
And now the Recipe!
There are 4 recipes involved. One for the pork, the barbecue sauce, the buns and the honey butter glaze, although the glaze is literally just Honey and butter heated up.

For the Pork:
Cut up Pork Shoulder into small 2-3 inch pieces. try to cut off the excess fat from the pieces of the shoulder (we'll redistribute it among the masses like the commies we are.)
Place into Bowl
For spice mix you'll need, Cumin, Kosher salt, Pepper, Cayenne, Chinese 5 Spice, Cinnamon, 4-5 cloves of garlic, a few bay leaves, a little bit of maple syrup, a decent amount of olive oil, and the juice and peel of 1 navel orange
(For best results, marinate overnight. It really intensifies the orange flavor.)
Place shoulder chunks into baking dish. Remember the fat from earlier? Chop that up and redistribute among all the pork pieces.
Cover with 1 sheet of heavy foil (2-3 if you're using lighter foil. )
Place into 275 F oven for 3.5 hours
It should be fork tender when you remove the foil.

Barbecue Sauce:
In sauce Pan medium/medium low, melt three tablespoons of butter. Add about a quarter of a White Onion. Let it cook until golden.
Add Brown Sugar, Apple Cider Vinegar, black pepper, tomato paste, orange zest, and the juice of one orange to the sauce. Add a good bit of cayenne and salt to the sauce to taste. Once the sauce is at a sufficient bubbliness (I added quite a bit of brown sugar to mine which made it quite thick), remove from heat.
Pour sauce into a food processor and blend until smooth.

Buns and Honey Glaze recipe will follow in next post with a cute picture of the buns post bake

>>12172883
Are you adding the gloves of garlic whole and are you cooking the pork in the marinade or just removing the pork from the marinade and putting it in a bare baking tray?

>>12172883
For the bread:
Take 3.5 cups flour, 2 tablespoons sugar, 1 cup of warm water, 1 packet of yeast, 1 large egg, 2.5 tablespoons of melted butter and a bit of salt.
Knead until it becomes a nice dough. It's a pretty basic sort of bread recipe.
Let rest, rise, then pat it down, separating into 8 buns.
Squish and shape as needed
Place in pan with slip mat / parchment paper and let rise.
Take 1 egg and 2 tablespoons of milk and whisk together for the egg wash.
Lightly brush top of buns with egg wash
Bake in 375 F oven for 15-20 minutes until golden and beautiful.

For the honey butter glaze:
Melt 3 tablespoons of salted butter with about 3 spoons of honey. (Use the good stuff.)
Whisk in medium / medium low heat. Don't let it get too hot.

When the buns are out of the oven, immediately brush with the honey butter glaze.

>>12172942
cloves should be whole I have pic of it when it came out of the oven.

>>12172942
Here's what it looks like after cooking in the pan.

>>12172975
buns look delicious

>>12172991
Have you tried the confit thing where you jam all the gaps with extra pork lard?

>>12174052
That would be dangerously close to just becoming carniatas.

>>12168546
>most pretentiously overdone shit I've ever seen.
The guy was just having fun anon.

>>12174171
He's just trolling ignore that fag.

>>12172883
Damn good looking bread anon.

>>12174153
I kinda thought that's what you were going for with the flavourings. I'm not too familiar with the venn diagram of the slow cooked pork universe though.

Can you submit something now, if you didn't submit anything for the last rounds?

>>12175822
Yes, you have until tuesday at midnight.

>>12168219
Never stop posting.

>>12175822
Yup, first three rounds are open.

Here is my submission: Hamburger with caramelised onions, in focaccia.

A few notes:
>The veggies in the meat patty are to give it a little crunchiness, otherwise the whole thing would be very squishy. Focaccia is not very crusty, and toasting freshly made focaccia is a waste. You can't taste much the vegetables, unless you look for them.
>You can knead the dough by hand just fine, but I'm lazy.
>The focaccia takes several hours to make, but most of it is waiting time. Active preparation time is maybe 20-30 minutes
>Presentation is lacking on purpose. It's not a sloposhit, so fuck off with your bullshit.

>>12176516
Is that burger raw?

>>12176516
that’s raw

>>12176530
>>12176529
People serve burgers rare now. Places around here still ask because it freaks some customers out, but it's not bad.

>>12176557
we didn’t say rare. we said raw.

>>12176529
>>12176530
>>12176564
It may look that way because I fucked up when cutting it and much of the onion went on the side. But it's not raw, it's ok.

>>12176516
You made making the focaccia way too complicated, its a simple flatbread. I used Paul Hollywoods recipe and it was half the work and Im pretty sure the only thing better about yours is the fresh herbs

>>12176516
Nice bread. Focaccia burger's pretty original, or at least it's new to me.

>>12176516
You didn’t even grind your own beef? In the trash it goes.

>>12176591
I saw it on a menu exactly once, about 15 years ago.

>>12176578
Dunno, I got this this recipe from my mother, supposedly it's done this way traditionally.
From the picture, yours looks quite a bit more dense, so the extra waiting time in mine might have helped.

>>12176598
I just worked with what I had at home, to spend a lazy Saturday afternoon. I often grind my own meat, make pork sausage too.

>>12176614
>full damage control mode

>>12176645

Vertical for >>12153595

>>12177134
this belongs in the nightmare food thread >>12169832

>>12177134
Presentation wise it's fine but I really don't think smoked salmon belongs on a traditional sandwich.

>>12177373
Why not? Salmon in a bagel is very common, and cured meat in general, (ie. ham) is a standard sandwich filler.

>>12177134
That bread looks nice

>>12178700
Maybe in Latvia but not in the civilized world.

>>12178859
You've seriously never seen salmon on bread.

>>12178891
The closest thing I've ever seen to your sandwhich was when i had lunch at my czech hockey coach's house and they ate a salad topped with ketchup wrapped in a pita. Your submission reminds me of more eastern bloc food. Who the fuck wants to eat raw red onion? Disgusting.

>>12178914
T. Literal flyover

Cured salmon on bagels is common as fuck.

>>12167209
did you really put onion pieces the size of a quarter in your meatballs?

>>12178914
Well it's really common around here. Like every coffee shop that sells prepackaged sandwiches has smoked salmon and cream cheese ones, and breakfast places all do eggs royale for example. Same with thinly sliced red onion in salads, you should try it.

>>12167009
Given how shit your prebaked shaped loaves look idk how that bread turned out so well, gj anon

48 hours remain.

bump

Got one comin in, just gotta do the infograph

Bumperoo

>>12176645
And your response isn't? Letting bread rest allows the gluten to relax, reducing elasticity

"Borderline cake coffee sandwiches" is the name, because that is what I though of when I was assembling it. The idea is that they are like tea sandwiches but for coffee

The "bread" is a sponge, the white is vanilla and orange, the brown is brown sugar, honey and spices. I have less than a kg of bread flour and in my country it is difficult to find, so I al saving it for another round
The fillings are plum and whipped cream for the horizontal one, and white peach with spiced berry marmalade in the other one. The coffee is Mexican "café de la Olla" served ice cold.
The bread, coffee and marmalade are all home-made, I have the recipes if anyone is interested

>>12168219
Unironically love it

>>12182146
>Unironically love it

>>12182146
thankies; it was pretty tasty imo, the chips were nice despite looking like dog food. think i'll soak and dry the toast next time to amp up the beef flavor
>really liking the idea of a layered coffee cake turned sandwiches

>>12170227
>chairman
That's a bit rich of a term. I've really disliked the retard who does these threads since the first time they talked about it; they're just not very smart or thorough.

>>12170255
This is spot on. Not adhering to the theme should mean disqualification for the round.
>hurr I spend a lot of time and money and took a lot of pictures doing this grand wannabe gastronomy
>it's not really related to the challenge but hurr I just wanted to do what I want to do ok
Why should a poster like this take higher scores than someone who tried to adhere to the theme, even if it meant their dish was less inspired? Analogously it's taking a gun to a knife fight.

>>12182214
still think 5/20 is a fair score for a dish that ignores the theme completely. 0/5 for theme, 0/5 for appeal (if you order a sandwich and get a pasta, it wouldn't appeal) and 0/5 on creativity since creativity points should awarded for creative use of the theme ingredient/subject
if someone wins with an average 5/20 score then everyone else must've sucked really hard

>>12182214
Case in point a “toast sandwich” with a pretentious fucking balsamic reduction.

IT’S THREE PIECES OF FUCKING BREAD GO FUCK YOURSELF AND ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT SHIT SHOULD EVEN QUALIFY SHOULD DIE IN A CAR FIRE!

>>12182233
Except they won’t score the other categories a zero, they won’t. It should just be disqualified full stop.

>>12182233
That's really not how the scoring works, dumdum.
Posters judging the appeal and creativity of the dish that is presented, not based on an imaginary RP scenario where you order yada yada in a restaurant.
People are just judging based on what is submitted, and it's going to be quite a lot easier to generate appeal and flex creativity when you aren't adhering to the parameters of the theme.
Someone with a great dish that is not theme related at all could still get 15/20 points, which would tie with someone who got mostly 4/5s.
Legitimately, if OP wants to run this successfully, they're going to have to step up their theme game and step up their instruction. If the challenge is sandwich, lay out in your announcement what will or won't be accepted. Don't leave it up to the thread to argue about for two days.

>>12182166
Wow, just... wow
Are you being serious? I thought this kind of behavior was left on 2018. I now see that I was wrong. But guess what sweetie? At least I am not an Alt-right biggot!

>>12182243
It isa piece of toast sandwiched between two pieces of bread, seems like a sandwich to me

>>12182327

>>12182274
i think if the chairman is going to strictly define the parameters in how contestants need to cook he also needs to clearly define how each category should be judged. if every parameter is so strictly defined i just don't really see the point in participating, it just doesn't sound fun anymore.
I'd prefer some degree of ambiguity to see how far contestants will go in terms of creativity and effort to see if their risks pay off. probably being a bit naive but judging from the scores of the last round, failing to meet theme criteria hasn't paid off when judged among other participants and even if it does in the future then it will end up being a majority decision so oh well, guess that's what everyone else wanted

>>12182366
Like the other anon said
>Posters judging the appeal and creativity of the dish that is presented

Voters pretty much gave a pass to the winner for his “rice dish where you literally couldn’t even see the rice in the final presentation because they thought it looked cool and appealed to the weeb factor. Now people seem to want to jerk him off for literally putting a piece of toast between two slice of white bread. The whole thing is fucked and if that’s what’s going to win then I truly have no need to partipate in this shitshow.

>>12182366
>>12182394
The OP, who is not any form of chairman, needs to make better themes which are more abstract and less fucking pedestrian, for starters.
And if you need "creativity" and "appeal" to be defined for you then you're really not the kind of person any of us wants voting in these things, so please, if you can't read basic English, just close this tab.

>>12182407
>>12182407
i dont think anyone needs to have them defined but possibly defined in context of the competition; i dont think creative elements contribute to points when judging if they don't relate to the theme while others may award points for creativity purely for creativity's sake
>in the end idk why people are taking a cooking competition on a laotian trainspotting forum so seriously

>>12182407
I think the problem more lies in posters here being retards.

Look at >>12176591 Really? Putting a raw hamburger in an unusual bread choice constitutes originality? Bullshit, it’s not original, it’s just stupid. Putting a piece of toast between two pieces of white bread is stupid. Half of these submissions are literally brain dead garbage and the few that actually could be counted as a legitimate sandwich are either ignored or ridiculed. It doesn’t seem like people give a flying fuck about creativity so much as they do weirdness. I’m seriously considering eating nothing but corn and spinach for the next 48 hours and taking a shit on a piece of bread and calling it an open face second harvest sandwich. That should satisfy theme, originality and challenge goals if not appeal. Maybe i’ll age it with some koji to appeal to the weeb factor or make a balsamic shit reduction to dip it in since people seem to like such gimmicks.

>>12182683
You should post this on your reddit site too if you haven't already

>>12182452
If you don't know why then you're part of the problem.
It's a personal issue and a nostalgia thing when some of us complain. These used to be really great with a really great host, fun threads, good cooking.
Now the faggot OP who does these is barely present and has shitty boring ideas. In the thread where they talked about maybe doing it again, they specifically said they'd rather do boring topics to encourage non-cookers to cook rather than doing exciting and inventive themes to really challenge the actual cooks and contributors of /ck/.
It's why you see so much backlash about the rice steak and toast sandwich entries. Boring theme attracts boring contestants that don't want to be outdone.

In the old threads there were themes like "savory berries" where you had to make an entree out of summer berries, and one where everyone rolled a random country and did a native dish. Those were fun, abstract enough not to be pedantic, and exciting enough to pique the interest of people who care, rather than some of the sad posts we saw for "rice."

>>12182697
I have no interest in a cooking challenge where people make trash I would never want to make or eat. Suck a dick.

>>12182716
If you don't like to try new, fun, interesting, inventive, or exciting foods, then why are you on this board?
It's like stomping around /out/ moaning about wanting to read about quiet indoor activities.
Sorry Hiroshimoot didn't make you a shit taste containment board. Instead you could try
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
>>>/trash/

>>12182740
>If you don't like to try new, fun, interesting, inventive, or exciting foods, then why are you on this board?
What like fast food? Don’t sit here and try and pretend like this board is somehow about enlightened cooking. It isn’t. It’s 85% thread about Applebee’s and McDonald’s and the rest is the odd thread where people actually cook. Let’s not go and shit it up any further by holding retarded contests where idiots make inedible entrees out of berries. Sue me for wanting a contest where we actually make edible and enjoyable food rather than culinary memes.

>>12182683
>balsamic shit reduction
this made me laugh way harder than it should have

>>12182755
>hey kid don't u know this place is shit
>how dare u try to make things better
>we like shitting in the street here
Get fucked, newfag parasite.
>inedible entrees out of berries
It came down to things like blueberry in barbecue sauce for some meat. Your brain is so simple that you couldn't even understand how to marry sweet and savory flavors.
>food
>and cooking
You stick to your (((food))) threads and I'll stick to my cooking threads. And I would like it very much if my cooking threads were high quality.

Admittedly haven’t lurked here long enough to participate in the old cooking contests but I’m having fun along with the other contestants (I presume) and would rather stick to these OC threads over the fast food and sip threads. Sorry if it’s not up to anyone’s standard but it sounds like we have a choice between bad and worse. Maybe some of the oldfags can contribute with theme ideas or participate or make another contest (I’d participate in that one too) if they want to see improvement or just hide the thread if it’s really that bad; not like anyone is forcing people to watch. It’ll be over soon enough anyway

lmao at least put your trip on so we know which competitor is getting so asspained about not winning last round

>>12183524
I haven't entered because I think the challenges are extremely boring.

>>12183524
Me either. Fucking insipid drivel.

maybe i just dont understand this mentality; if people find it boring why don't they just ignore the thread along with the other junk threads? or do they expect everyone in their interactive space was put there for free entertainment? if its that's boring submit something interesting; if you don't like the theme, suggest something better; if you still don't like it just don't bother. whats the point of just complaining and not contributing and sucking the fun out of the whole thing when other people seem to be enjoying themselves? sounds like miserable

>>12182873
Well I'm glad you're enjoying! Round 2 has honestly gone as well as I expected and I'm exciting to see how voting goes when it begins tomorrow night!

>>12185064
You suck dicks "chairman".

>>12185211
Cool. Now how about you fuck off back to /b/ kiddo?

>>12184777
Peanut gallery gonna peanut gallery.