/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>12215457
No. At least since the early 90s England has produced some of the best chefs and best restaurants in the world

>>12215457
What cuisine?

The UK just gets an unusual amount of attention because of jealousy and bitterness. If the UK wasn't so powerful and rich, and didn't have such a glorious history, no one would bat an eyelid at its admittedly pretty average cuisine. Unfortunately, over the course of its history, England has defeated, dominated and/or humiliated such a large number of countries that it has accumulated a huge and varied following of perpetually butthurt people from all around the world. There are whole communities of people whose online lives revolves around criticising England, often for acts centuries old, so it's no wonder that attitudes towards its food aren't that favourable despite it being at worst nothing to write home about.

>>12215633
This, the amount of anti-English butthurt on this site is staggering

>>12215457
The food is worse in the American Deep South and Midwest.

>>12215457

UK food is fine, it's basic and a bit utilitarian, but given the right ingredients it can be wonderful.

The problem is it's become infected with the Untied States' obsession with profit, fast food and supermarkets. People here don't cook anymore, just warm products up, while some of our really awesome ingredients are shipped abroad for profit, and we ship the same type of food back in at a lower quality to make money.

If you want to taste good English food, you need to eat with someone in their early 70s. They're the last generation that made everything from scratch. My grandma can make the most amazing pies and cakes and puddings. Not to mention prepare veg with no extra ingredients, but prepare, season and cook them just right so the flavour is amazing. Not everything needs salt, sugar and oil.

>>12215457
English cuisine is the worsr, anyone who says otherwise is a butthurt bong

>>12215457
Agreed. What fucking nigger-like animal eats Beef Wellington? Any civilized human eats Beef MediumRarington.

>>12217655
I live in Indiana and I’ve been across the country and world. its the same food all over America, man.

>>12217712
I too live in Indiana and share the same sentiment.

>>12217712
Kek, the Midwest assumption that whatever you consider normal is what's normal to the rest of the country. Breakfast pizza is not normal.

>>12217730
I'm the second guy and I grew up along the west coast. It's the same except for a few regional ingredients. Less seafood, more beef and milk in indy for example.

Only thing that took me a while to get used to when I moved is that people are more likely to dip breadsticks in cheese than marinara here and that fucks with me.

>>12217738
If you're talking chain restaurants and what's available at the supermarket I'll agree the country is pretty homogenized. But there is still food culture in the US, and it does vary by region. Most major cities do OK because affluence and immigrants both make for good eating. People tend not the eat much of the kinds of foods you'd find at church potlucks. But in the South and the Midwest those kind of American foodgore dishes are considered normal to a much greater extent than they are around major coastal cities.

>>12215457
English Cuisine has some of the best stews, pastries and deserts in the world. The issue is that a lot of the culture around food has been lost because of the World Wars, and the effect can still be felt today. It's slowly coming back but goddamn it's taking a long time.

>>12217775
I will admit I may be a little biased bc I live in the Indy suburbs, which has almost exactly matched my experience living in san diego suburbs.

Even visiting rural family and friends I've never encountered "flyover" food. I guess it's just not in my family becuase I know it exists. (We are white, before you ask)

>>12215457
Fuck off you fat American deep fried cunt.

>>12215457
Aside from english brekkie and fishnchips, yeah.

>>12215457
Someone has clearly never had a toad in the hole

>>12215590
pretty much this.
i really don't know enough dishes to say anything about their cuisine

>>12217798
>Even visiting rural family and friends I've never encountered "flyover" food.
Or you just consider it normal, so you don't notice it. Do you use ranch dressing as a condiment for pizza and fried food? Have you eaten casseroles where the ingredients included one of the following: canned soup, tater tots or "mixed vegetables"? Desserts made from breakfast cereal or Jell-o? Have you put pic related on pasta? Used potato chips to scoop up a mixture of sour cream and dehydrated onion soup mix? If not then your affluence has sheltered you.

>>12215457
Traditional English cuisine is fucking great.

>>12217827
Sure, it's delicious. But it's an outlier rather than the norm.

English cuisine is not that bad, ours is worse.

T. Dutchman

>>12215457
Not even close, stop your memeing. British food is at least recognizeable, I can tell what is beans and mushrooms and sausage. British food is also prepared and eaten hygienically, with knife and fork.

Now compare that to the slop that comes out of any African country. This is Ethiopian - just a plant leaf covered in various unidentifiable slop plops - might be veggies, might be monkey meat, who knows! And of course you just scoop it up with your unwashed hands and shovel it into your toothless mouth, mmm-mmm! Nah, white people cuisine has a LONG way to fall before it reaches the level of black "cuisine".

>>12218168
Hardly

>>12215457
as much as I laugh at english cuisine I can't agree
there are far worse "cuisines"

>>12218371
>>12218387
this is what I mean

>>12217701
>If you want to taste good English food, you need to eat with someone in their early 70s.
good god no, that generation grew up still using rations and have awful, awful taste in food

>>12215457
nah it's got some really nice dishes actually

Fuck off its easily the best. Meats, gravy, roasties.

You have bad examples over there. I once ordered a shephards pie in usa and it was covered with melted mozzarella.

Try a crusty bottom pork pie. I dare you

>>12215457

A fresh fish, battered, and deep fried, served on a roll of newspapers with steaming hot fried chips doused in vinegar, and a side of mushy peas is still one of the best fast food combinations one could ask for.

>>12215457
Incorrect. Filipino food is the worst, followed by Thai.

OP must live a sheltered life to think British food is the worst when things like >>12218371 exist. How much humans feces is in British food, because there's a lot in that slop.

>>12217890
None of those.

My less affluent parts of the family tend to grow their own food and are big fishermen.

Can't say anyone lives in a trailer park so that may be it.

Midwestern USA food is worse than English food

midwestern shit is absolutely not the same as other american cuisine
Nobody makes your disgusting flyover food except for people with fucked up, kraft-cheezed-out pallets who are originally from those states
Please for the love of god go to Texas, or New England, or Louisiana or anywhere in the states with a definite, and separate cuisine, I beg you holy shit

>>12215457
That's because they were too busy creating and running the civilized world to waste time on being the world's housewife. That was France's job.

>>12218798
>OP must live a sheltered life to think British food is the worst when things like >>12218371 exist.
No, you're missing the other option where people know Ethiopia exists but nobody takes it seriously enough to count it in the running for anything.

>>12218932
OP didn't qualify that in his post, he said "THE WORST." Can't go around making those kind of statements without appearing foolish.

>>12218943
You don't need to say Ethiopia doesn't count. It's always implied they don't count.

>>12217775
coastcuck cope

>>12217827
Why is everything in England brown?

I think the best English food line up is

>Full English for breakfast with tea

>Cornish pasty for lunch with tea

>Carvery at the local with ale

>homemade trifle at home with tea

>>12219006
you don't have to put extra spaces on 4chan like you do on r*ddit

>>12218356
>Dutch
This. Dutch cuisine was devised to be carbs without pleasure.

>>12218371
How is that bad? It looks pretty delicious for a light, regular meal.

>>12215633
But putting biases aside, English food in the 20th-21st century is genuinely lacklustre. It's telling that many of the best restaurants in the country are serving other culture's cuisines or combining British cuisine with others; England is a place with great raw ingredients, but mediocre cuisine.

>>12218590
You mean Melton Mowbrays? You can get authentic examples everywhere in the UK; I've tried them, and personally they're satisfying but not much to write about. You can only get so far with jellied cured pork in a pastry crust.

>>12219022
Mmm, I sure do love eating miscellaneous mush with my fingers.

>>12215457
Tough going saying that since Brits immediately turn into a gaggle of angry fags whenever you criticize them regarding anything.

>>12215457
The history behind this is actually kind of fun! It all has to do with original English aristocrats being French, and how early England got started on the colonialism game. Basically from the start, England never had the opportunity to develop its own original "high cuisine" because the nobles wanted replicas of French cuisine, and when they went out into the world and discovered foreign spices and cuisine, it became fashionable to eat that!
tl;dr the English are a parasitic people and should slip into the sea

>>12215590
>Indian

>>12215633
Is this the attitude in Europe? In America we don't think about other countries because... why? It's not like any other countries matter. There was a royal wedding or something last year right? That was the only time anyone in America was even aware of the UK in 2018.

>>12220376
>slip into the sea
someone tried that and we ended up with the worlds strongest navy and a large empire

>>12217890
>trifle is le flyover
Fuck off.

>>12215457
You've clearly never heard of Scottish """"""""""food"""""""""""""

>>12221194
That's because it's not about food, it's about /int/niggers crying about ebul ingerlund. Snowniggers would trump all if butthurt wasn't involved. Probably somewhere like Greenland with a suicide rate that makes Honduras' murder stats blush.

>>12220694
No. What you just witnessed was the typical psychotic rant of an inbred bong retard. They have an inferiority complex + they are riddled with genetical disease so they produce low quality posts like this.

>>12215633
most complaints i hear about uk on the internet are from anglos themselves

>>12218371
ethiopia is literally where coffee originated

>>12221291
S E E T H I N G

>>12221346
Do you know what seething means anon?

>>12218356
What’s so bad about dutch cuisine?

>>12218356
Dual Dutch/Englishman here. Can confirm, Dutch cuisine is generally awful.

Although the Dutch do get stroopwafel and I like an uitsmijter, but the uitsmijter isn't different enough from a Croque Madame that it's really a stand-out Dutch thing.

>>12218371
>a plant leaf

>>12221458
Dutch cuisine is pretty weak. One of the few that can really give the UK and rural USA a run for their money.

>>12218618
Based British-Jewish cuisine. Why are British-Jewish people such Chad/Stacies? Nigella Lawson, Ben Barnes, Jason Isaacs... even the short, not-very-handsome ones like Tom Hollander are based af as far as acting is concerned.

The bugman fears the fry up.

>>12220376
I mean... that's not really unique to the UK, is it? The top brass of Russia spoke French too even around the Napoleonic Wars and were Francophiles cause France was the big powder at the time and fashionable. I've read bits and pieces about the upper brass in China and so on being big Anglophiles for similar reasons.

UK has a shitty food culture first and foremost, not necessarily shitty as sin cuisine, and a lot of tasty stuff really is quite obscure, like potted shrimp and Welsh cake cakes are far from household staples but are really quite nice on toast or with tea/coffee.

>>12221869
Strangely enough I eat Welsh cakes almost every day in my country.

>>12215457
We took over the world for better food

>>12215457
One (1) Gregg's sausage roll BTFOs the entirety of American cuisine. So does Abdul's fish and chips. I say this as an American. Brits eat some weird shit but their takeout is miles ahead of ours and their Sunday roasts are too.

>>12219016
>>12218356
To be fair the reason our cooking gets a bad rep is because of stupid old whores boiling the ever loving shit out of their vegetables and potatoes. It CAN be really good, but it plain old housewives here never could really cook that well. Also I really dislike stroopwafels and hagelslag and don't know why people meme them so often.

>>12215457
Gimmie my pud pud!

>>12223016
Taters are native to the Americas, are you gonna blame us for that too?

Sometimes you Brits come across as niggers because you blame others for your problems. Nobody forced you join that EU bullshit.

>>12218995
Yeah even the people in our country are turning brown

>>12215457
OBSESSED

>>12223336
Don't turn this into /pol/.

>>12215547
but do they cook english "food"?

>>12223379
Yes. Modern British cuisine is actually more innovative and exciting than French cuisine at the moment
A lot of French chefs actually do their training in London now instead of Paris

>>12223392
when you say it's more innovative and exciting compared to french cuisine you're not speaking to what cuisine is the worst.

english food has been historically shit, any change is going to be "innovative and exciting"

french food doesnt need to be innovative or exciting (even though it is) because it already is the worlds best

>>12223407
>english food has been historically shit
>french food is the worlds best
Two flawed assumptions based, I suspect, on memes rather than real experiences

>>12223392
>A lot of French chefs actually do their training in London now instead of Paris
That's not surprising, middle-eastern food is becoming very much "in" for fine dining in parts of America as well.

>>12223417
Why do Americans speak and think only in memes?

>>12223428
>Why do Americans speak and think only in memes?
>Why do Americans
Does your free health care cover irony poisoning?

>>12223028
tfw the humble swede and turnip have been almost eradicated from meals outside of occasional roasts
at least they taste ok boiled

>>12220694
you fags literally bitch about russia and china everyday

>>12223501
?

>>12223428
Because that's all you eurotrash types are capable of understanding.

>>12223698
Check out this OTR one for shits and giggles.

(carrots v onions)
CBS Radio Workshop - 56-09-14 CBS Radio Workshop (34) A Pride of Carrots (Venus Well Served)
https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.com/drama/cbs-radio-workshop/cbs-radio-workshop-56-09-14-34-a-pride-of-carrots-venus-well-served

>>12215457
English food is by no means great but it’s no worse than any other Northern European cuisine,
see
>>12215633

>>12215547
not even close. england's produced a handful of prominent celebrity chefs like ramsay and blumenthal, but no one in the industry takes any of them seriously except for marco pierre white, who literally just cooks french food. blumenthal is the only prominent british chef who does "british cuisine", but no one gives a fuck about fat duck aside from rich londoners. no one in the industry outside of the UK ever thinks about it. compared to france, italy, america, japan, and china, and even second-tier food countries like germany, england is a non-entity.

>>12217712
>its the same food all over America, man.
i've lived on both coasts, in texas, and in georgia, and the food is fucking different 50 miles down the road if you're not eating at mcdonalds.

>>12223978
>celebrity chefs like ramsay and blumenthal
If that's the best you can come with then you're bloody useless.

>>12223978
Your celebs run around like chickens with their heads chopped off like practice targets from Henry VIII.

>>12218770
literal tastelet detected, suck on my 9 inch lumpia

>>12223990
of the nine 3 star chefs in england, five are french, one is japanese, and the other three are blumenthal, ramsay, and white, and aside from blumenthal and the japanese dude, every single one cooks french food. on pelegrino's list, the first UK restaurant appears at #33, and there's more top 100 restaurants in fucking peru than in england. sorry to upset you but no one cares about british food because it's just not that good or exciting.

>>12217588
Well that's what you get when most posters are american. The amount of butthurt they have is staggering. I actually used to quite like americans. 4chan has turned my views on them iranian tier.

>>12215633
this, but I honestly wouldn't even call it average, unless you mean by european standards. It's objectively better than pick an african cuisine, carribean cuisines, tibetan, bhutanese, some central asian ones, and I'd probably say it could give some s.american ones a run for their money. I'd call it middle/low average by european standards, and top 25 at least by world standards.

I'd also note that despite the "english cuisine" part, english cuisine is objectively the best in the british isles. British > Welsh > Irish > Scottish. Just shitloads of butthurt faggots out there.

>>12215457
Most bland? Absolutely. Worst? Not quite. You have Flip food -- some of which is made of actual garbage.

>>12218522
>If you want to taste good English food, you need to eat with someone in their early 70s.
good god no, that generation grew up still using rations and have awful, awful taste in food

This is correct, t. two grandmothers who grew up immediately post/during WW2, and as much as I love them and they do a tolerable job, they're not amazing cooks. Very limited palates, tastes that tend more towards the plain. Rationing had a big, long lasting effect on their tastes and what recipes they instinctively make

>>12215457
Britain has great food and cuisine, it's just the British don't eat out as much as other nations, and therefore the majority of British cuisine is home cooked.

Foreigners that come to the UK get a bad impression because they eat crappy food in their lousy hotels or go to a restaurant that serves mediocre food (usually Italian or low quality fast food)

British food however is delicious when cooked properly. Things like sunday roast, stew and dumplings, beef wellington, cottage/shepherds pie, all the other variety of pies, fish and chips, sausage and mash, apple pie, trifle, scones, sticky toffee pudding, bacon and eggs, chicken tikka masala, christmas dinner, etc.

These are all delicious dishes. And Britain has amazing produce and has been highly influential in global cuisine. I mean the most popular cheese in the world is cheddar and it's British.

>>12224098
flip food can be absolutely delicious if you make it with good ingredients though.

>>12215633
you are larping as americans and No one thinks of you like that anymore. they see you as an american vassal now after the suez channel

>>12217890
>your affluence has sheltered you
That's just it though, poors on the coasts eat the same trash as the poors in the midwest. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.

>>12224092
Look, no one likes dark people, not even dark people, but Caribbean cuisine is popular in England for a reason. Do you see any british restaurants in the Caribbean?

Oh ok, immigration you say. Are there French restaurants in Britain? Ok, now how many British restaurants in France?

There is a lot of bad food out there, and british food is painfully mediocre. It's northern European quality, although I would say Nordic countries have better dishes on average. But even Brits, by their shopping habits, prove that other countries have tastier food.

>>12224173
>That's just it though, poors on the coasts eat the same trash as the poors in the midwest. You're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
that's not true, i'm a poor on the coast and i don't eat any of that shit. i eat a fuck ton of beans and lentils and tortillas and shit like that. the only people i know who eat like that are from the midwest.

>>12224216
>Caribbean cuisine is popular in England for a reason.

citation needed? I live here, and have done my entire life. I have never once even seen a carribean takeaway, let alone a carribean restaurant. The closest I see of it is the small carribean section in the supermarkets w/ salt cod etc, and reggae reggae sauce in the sauce aisle.

I have to wonder if you're confusing having a fairly broad palate as a culture, with not liking our own countries food. I've been to a number of other european countries. They have a pretty shitty and limited selection of foods in their supermarkets. Can you cook french food with the ingredients in the average supermarche? 100%. Could you cook a curry? God no, and I once had a french family make one for mine and it was pretty shite. Liking many other cuisines = a predictable trait for the home of the largest empire in human history, not least when we had a hand in the modern iterations of some of our most favoured, such as indian. I'd also point out that when british restaurants do open, they can do pretty well. Even in paris https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/lentente-paris-restaurant-classic-british-food-oliver-woodhead-shepherds-pie-a8271796.html . We just don't make a whole song and dance over our cuisine

I don't disagree regarding the northern european association, british, nordic and germanic cuisines share similar traits. I'd dispute nordic countries having better dishes, but I could understand why some people might think that. Personally I find nordic food too bland generally - it's tasty, but underseasoned. I'd take a nice venison stew or a pork pie with some stilton over most any nordic dish.

>and british food is painfully mediocre
I honestly wonder how much of it you've eaten desu. Have you even had proper chip shop chips, or a really nice toad in the hole with mustard gravy, or [insert one of many tasty stews here] or steak and kidney pie, or a proper roast dinner with all the trimmings?

>>12223978
>I only know about celebrity tv chefs
Embarrassing
What about Nathan Outlaw, Theo Randall, Skye Gyngell, Clare Smyth etc?
No of course you haven't heard of them, because your views on British food are based on internet memes instead of actually eating in British restaurants

>>12224345
Forgot to include Michael Caines, probably the best British chef currently alive

>>12224115
Americans think cheddar looks like this

>>12215633
>BEANS
>ON
>TOAST
Need I say more britbong. Your heyday was over 200 years ago

>>12224403
There is literally nothing wrong with beans on toast. Americans only think it's weird because their beans are laced with high fructose corn syrup, along with everything else they eat

>>12224403
Beans on toast are really fucking good though. Melt some mature cheddar into the beans as you heat them, lots of black pepper, some Worcestershire sauce, a nice thick piece of toast heavily buttered, it's fucking delicious. It isn't anything fancy, but you can put it together inside of 10 minutes and it's a nice hearty meal.

>>12224459
>mature cheddar
Americans won't have the faintest idea what you're talking about

is the worst that we know about
There is probably some shitty tiny country with worse food but since no one cares about them they go under the radar

>>12224497

Vermont is proud of this cheddar, rudebog

>>12218371
OP never brought up black cuisine, or even white cuisine in general. have sex, you insecure /pol/yp.

>>12224497
I actually quizzed an american friend on this, although I haven't explored the range of american cheddars (and I know there are some decent independent producers), I don't think its great on average. She'd never even heard of a cheddar that got the tasty white crystals forming on the outside, and said if she saw cheese with that on she'd take it back.
>weak

>>12215633
The US just gets an unusual amount of attention because of jealousy and bitterness. If the US wasn't so powerful and rich, and didn't have such a glorious history, no one would bat an eyelid at its admittedly pretty average cuisine. Unfortunately, over the course of its history, USA has defeated, dominated and/or humiliated such a large number of countries that it has accumulated a huge and varied following of perpetually butthurt people from all around the world. There are whole communities of people whose online lives revolves around criticising USA, often for acts centuries old, so it's no wonder that attitudes towards its food aren't that favourable despite it being at worst nothing to write home about.

>>12224563
you've got a pretty small culture in england, no matter how badly you want to think otherwise. The sheer fact that the USA has various biomes kind of stretches the imagination past aging cheddar cheese. How about you guys go claim some new territory so you dont all die of the next bubonic plague on your literal island

>>12224631
Yet for all their massive territory, Americans somehow manage to be the most sheltered and isolated people on earth

>>12224651
yawn we dont have to a take a train to france to get out of our alcoholics singularity. Miami, NYC, Seattle, San Fran, LA. literally all better and more cultured than anyplace in the UK

>>12224394
I'm American, and I don't even like that stuff. I always try to request for the "cheese" to be taken off my order of burgers. Usually, just saying I will order a hamburger is sufficient, but I sometimes emphasize no "cheese." I prefer plain hamburgers, anyway.

>>12217701
It's just like the people. Boring.

>>12224631

>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY! BLAH BLAH BLAH NO CULTURE BLAH BLAH BLAH MURICA BLAH BLAH BLAH *braaaaappppp* BLAH BLAH STARGAZY PIE LMAO BLAH BLAH

>>12224651
>40% of US adults can't identify the US on a blank world map
>80% can't identify england
What are you talking about? Americans are the most cosmopolitan people on earth!

>>12224631
See
>>12224651

To expound on it though, you appear to be making the classic mutt mistake of thinking big = better. You do indeed have a wide range of biomes. Some might say that comes with being the size of a continent, and covering a wide range of longitudes and latitudes as opposed to any success on your behalf or fault on britains, but hey that's just crazy talk right?

I'd also point out that we quite literally owned the single largest empire to ever exist in all of human history. Do we now? No of course not, and none would claim to. It is still true that the sun never sets on it though, which is nice. However, our achievement there is beyond dispute. And what's more, we did the whole thing from our tiny, silly little island. I have yet to see america achieve anything comparable. We literally exported civilisation to most of the world. Most countries use parliaments - ours was not the oldest (based iceland takes that prize), but it was the foundational model. Your constitution was inspired by our magna carta. Your founding fathers considered themselves englishmen, acting in classic english fashion, and I'd agree. We made 4 first world colonies, not even counting hong kong and singapore.

Like it or not (I'll take a wild guess and bet not), we've done more for humanity than you ever will. When the israeli foreign legion marches, entire middle eastern countries get blown to rubble for having the temerity to exist on top of an oil deposit. We built nations, you destroy them.

We built culture, you erode it.

We have existed on our "literal island" during the last bubonic plague, we outlived it, and the spanish flu, and we shall do so to the next contagion as well. How is the whole land border with mexico working out for you guys? I'd rather be an island desu. At least that way I won't be a latin american country in two decades.

>>12218943
Dude Ethopian food doesn't even count as a real cuisine. Just as childrens' finger paintings don't count as visual arts.

>>12215457
I won't agree with this until I try pickled eels.

>>12225975
Not so fast brito*id, Magna Carta and Parliament are technically French-Norman inventions, technically we invented Parliament and the foundations of modern day government. They only happened to occur on your lands because the French Normans were so kick ass and defined history, England was really just there for the ride along history, thank you very much. You can thank the French later for the foundations of contemporary Western government.

>>12221291
>genetical disease

>>12223377
This has been /polck/ for years now

>>12225975

One of the most based posts I have read on 4 chan in 5 years

>>12225975
But where are you now? Your country might as well be Pakistan. Suck my cock.

>>12226649
>Your country might as well be Pakistan
Again, Americans demonstrate that they can only think in terms of memes

>>12226694
Good luck with Brexit mate. Hope your country doesn't fuck everything up.

>>12225975
>>12226694
I can't remember ever seeing amerifats so literally btfo by a bong before! Congrats, you must be irish.

>>12226825
Not the based anon, but, and assuming they are baiting and that's it, I legitimately think a lot of them on here or /tv/ are too stupid to realise they've been BTFO. They seem too belligerent and pigheaded to accept some of their ideas about Britain, a country they aren't likely to have ever visited in any capacity beyond London (if at all), are flat out wrong. But there's the thing with 4chan: it's hard to tell who is actually a fucking moron and who is intentionally posting dumb shit for a response and stringing you along for a laugh.

>>12226694
>implying London doesn't poll most middle-easterners as white
Someone post the video.

>>12227361
Literally never heard of this. I know they poll Arabs, etc. as white in the US but this has never came up on UK statistics and I definitely would have heard of this by now on some /pol/ thread or /tv/. And even if you are white, we really don't have that many browns from that part of the world. The vast, vast majority of browns here are south Asians. So even the Mid Easterners are polled as white, it really isn't changing the statistics that much.

>>12215457
Agreed. I also enjoy all the britcuck butthurt ITT.

>>12215457
Well yeah. Maybe not the worst because of africa mud eating. But it is second to mud

>>12227361
>>implying London doesn't poll most middle-easterners as white
We don't though. Meanwhile...

>>12227361
We poll them as Asian :^)

>britcucks and americucks fight for the amusement of /ck/ onlookers, colourised (2019)

>>12215457
I mean Mint Jelly is cool.
Plus they make some awesome candy.

>>12226085
I'll mildly give you that one, although I'd point out that basically the entire industrial revolution was a british invention. French are 100% based though, I have no issues with acknowledging the benefits they brought to english culture. Can even trace one line of my ancestry back to the normans.
>England was really just there for the ride along history
That part is sheer cope though, norman influence waned and was almost completely gone by the 1500's, and most british (most of which were english, some scottish) inventions occured post 1600's. Franks are based af though, for all they could give americans lessons in arrogance

>>12226649
>Britain is pakistan
>By that logic the UK is 3 african countries and 6 mexican ones
Logic seems to check out, no argument here

>>12226825
I actually am a little bit Irish. Mostly english, some west and southern irish in me. The combination is a potent one if you want to drink a litre of gin and still be pretty sober.

>>12227361
We literally don't. It's just america that polls MENA as white for some surreal reason. The only complaint some might make about our census is our "asian" includes bangladesh and pakistan. I'd note though, if you look on a map of asia, you'll find both of those countries. Idiot americans who hear "muslims" and think we're calling literal saudis "asians" keep causing shit about it. It's just a facet of our colonial history.

>>12228493
>By that logic the UK is 3 african countries and 6 mexican ones
Read as : the US is 3 african countries and 6 mexican ones

People always get the British food is shit argument far too focused. Yes if you only took foods and ingredients produced on that sceptered Isle then it's fairly bland and boring.
But, British cuisine is much like the language itself, it accepts outside influence and takes it on as part of its own. Not being bound by the limitations of a particular cooking style has led to there always being a choice to eat something different.

As an ex-pat living abroad I will say this, Irish food is about a generation behind that in the UKs

>>12226044
You might be shockingly surprised.
[bad pun, I know]

>>12215590
Sosij roll

>>12217701
>someone in their early 70s. They're the last generation that made everything from scratch
Early 70s people are postwar boomers. You think they made anything from scratch?
No your best bet is to use advanced super-science to resurrect a 1930s cook who served in a good household. But be warned, she will not suffer fools gladly.

>>12215633
>The UK just gets an unusual amount of attention because of jealousy and bitterness.

>>12215457
Disagree

I am korean and even i deeply lust after the full english experience.

>>12229099
based and full english pilled. If you ever get the chance, you really have to make sure you try one with black pudding. Don't listen to the naysayers, it's the best part. If you're really squeamish about it, you can try white pudding instead (black pudding minus the blood), but its not as good.

>>12229089
This anon is mostly correct. Postwar boomers (or even those who grew up during the war) have tastes shaped by rationing. Honestly, modern british food (aka utilising many spices more and more) actually closely matches what british food used to be in the late middle ages. A cook who grew up in the early 1900's would be a good bet, but they're all dead or senile by now sadly.

I will say most people in that age range did (and do) make most things from scratch. Both my grandmothers will make most everything from scratch. They just have a very limited palate, and tend to aim for very simple meals. They do put the work in to do it by hand though.